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Trading Update

Jan 8, 2026

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining the call. This morning, we published a trading update for the first quarter of ABF's 2026 financial year, that is, for the 16 weeks to 3rd of January. We have brought forward this update, and this is due to the weaker-than-expected performance in Primark over the period. The period has just closed. We are still finalizing the Q1 numbers for the individual businesses and for the group. However, the release provides our best estimates of where we expect to close the period. George would very much want to be on this call. It hasn't been possible given the timing with our businesses in the U.S. this week, and he's currently on a flight back. In the light of the information of this release, we are updating the market as soon as possible.

I've asked Eoin Tonge to join today to share some additional color on the performance in Primark. Before we move to Q&A, I'll briefly set out the key elements of today's trading update. I'll start with Primark. Primark's total sales were up approximately 1%. Performance between our different markets was mixed, with a continuation of the same trends we had in the second half of 2025, and which we highlighted in November. In the U.K., total sales grew 3%, like-for-like sales grew 1.7%, and Primark gained market share in a difficult retail environment. As has been well covered in the media, consumer sentiment remained weak, and the Christmas trading period was particularly disappointing for clothing retail, and mild weather didn't help.

However, as we set out in November, the range of actions we've taken in the U.K. to improve Primark's customer proposition has continued to drive an uplift in sales. We've focused on improving price perceptions, strengthening our product offer, increasing the use of digital marketing, driving growth in click-and-collect, and refurbishing our store estate. We've seen good results from actions to date, particularly in women's wear, and there's much more to come. As I say, Eoin will be able to provide some more color on these. In continental Europe, the consumer environment has continued to be tough, without any meaningful improvements over Christmas for our consumers. We are focusing on value we offer our customers in those markets, but we haven't yet rolled out those same initiatives that we had in the U.K., although they are now underway.

Given the positive reaction we've seen in the U.K., we do expect this to drive improved performance in Europe in the coming months. Again, Eoin will provide more detail. In the U.S., the retail environment has been volatile, and this impacted consumer sentiment and footfall. Across markets, our new store rollouts were well executed. We opened 11 new stores in Q1, and as expected, new space contributed around 4 percentage points to Primark's total sales growth. We are particularly pleased to have opened our first franchise store in Kuwait, which has been trading very well. Overall, Primark's sales growth in the period was below our previous expectations, and we now expect Primark's sales growth in the first half of 2026 to be in the low single digits. In a difficult trading environment, we significantly increased markdowns to manage inventory levels effectively, which has impacted profitability.

We have a broad range of initiatives in place and planned for the coming months, which we expect to drive improved sales and profitability, particularly in Europe. However, if Primark's current sales trends were to continue in the second half, we would expect the adjusted operating profit margin for the full year to be approximately 10%, similar to the first half, as we continue to invest in growth. It should be noted that the first half of 2025 had a non-recurring benefit to profit of GBP 20 million. Moving now to our food businesses, where we had a mixed performance in Q1. In the U.S., as we said in November, we had expected ongoing consumer weakness to lead to lower sales. We have seen a worsening in this trend.

In our cooking oils and bakery businesses, the impact has been more acute than anticipated, and we are more cautious on the outlook. As a result, we now expect both Grocery and Ingredients segments to deliver adjusted operating profit for the full year that is moderately below last year. In Grocery, the effect of phasing means the impact will be more significant in the first half of the year. In our U.K. bakeries business, we are focused on achieving regulatory clearance as quickly as possible for our acquisition of Hovis. We are making good progress, and we are pleased to have now moved into phase two of the CMA's review. For our other food businesses, Sugar and Agriculture, there's no change from the guidance we gave you in November. For the group, we now expect group-adjusted operating profit and adjusted EPS to be below last year.

With that, I'll hand you over to you for questions.

Operator

Ask a question.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Have we got questions?

Operator

Oh, thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to slowly press star one and one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. We will now go to our first question. One moment, please. And your first question today comes from the line of Richard Chamberlain from RBC. Please go ahead.

Richard Chamberlain
Equity Analyst, RBC

Yeah, thanks. Morning, morning, guys. A couple of questions, I guess, probably for Eoin if you're on the line, Eoin. Happy New Year, sorry, first up. But the first one would be, given the accelerated sort of channel shift online we seem to be seeing, particularly in mainland Europe, is there anything that Primark can do to accelerate its digital strategy in Europe? I'm thinking about click-and-collect plans, use of stock checker, that sort of thing, improving the digital experience. That's the first one. And then in terms of Primark U.S., is that a market thing, do you think? Are we seeing sort of consumer weakness, particularly in sort of Primark segment there? Is that across the board, or has that been sort of concentrated in certain areas of the U.S.? Thanks a lot.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Thanks, Richard. I'll start, and then I'll hand over to Eoin if that's okay.

Richard Chamberlain
Equity Analyst, RBC

Yeah, thanks, Eoin.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

So, the channel shift to digital in Europe, well, we are continuing to work on digital initiatives, and certainly in the U.K., our digital presence, and we do have click-and-collect in all our stores, is helping to drive the push on those initiatives. For the U.S., and the reason why I'm answering the question, it is a theme across not just Primark, but there's definitely a lot of volatile consumer behavior, and we do feel the environment is volatile, not just for Primark, but as we pointed out, for other U.S. businesses, particularly U.S. oils and our bakery ingredients. Eoin?

Eoin Tonge
Interim CEO, Primark

Yes, good morning, all, and happy New Year to all. So yeah, so look, on the European piece, look, of course, there's more we can do on the digital side of things. I think it'll take a little bit of time to get transactional like click-and-collect into some of the countries, but we can do more before that. I mean, interestingly, I think if I look at sort of performance in Europe, and particularly if I look at some of the categories, particularly that have underperformed, it's not, I would say, online competition where we've really suffered, if you will. It's more bricks and mortars competition. But that being said, I think the future of direction of travel is for us to get more digital into Europe. And I think that's somewhat inevitable. Now, on the U.S., yeah, nothing more really to add to what Joana already said.

I think, look, as we said in November, I mean, I think it's just going to be a very bumpy road. I think with the tariffs and with everything else that's going on, I mean, I think it's just a challenging environment. I think we will navigate through it. It'll probably be another 12 months, in my guess, of sort of uncertainty, volatility. But we just have to navigate through it. I don't think it makes much difference to the kind of sort of our long-term point of view in relation to the U.S.

Richard Chamberlain
Equity Analyst, RBC

Got it. Yeah. Okay. Thanks very much.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Thanks, Richard.

Operator

Thank you. We will now take the next question, and the question comes from the line of Jon Cox from Kepler . Please go ahead.

Jon Cox
Head of Swiss Equities and European Consumer Equities, Kepler

Yeah, good morning, guys. Happy New Year to you. First question, just really on the plan for the review of the split of the two businesses, just wondering if the profit warning has an impact in potentially delaying any sort of decision, or if not, actually scrapping that plan, because maybe it shows that being a sort of like a conglomerate is actually not a bad thing to be if parts of the business aren't working. That's the first question. Second question, just on that, am I understanding you right, Eoin, you are saying that click-and-collect will ultimately be rolled out into Europe? I don't think I've heard you say that before. Thank you.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Thanks, Jon. Happy New Year to you as well. The review of group structure, as we said, it is ongoing. The decision has not been made, and we will update in April, as we said. Just to remind of a couple of the things we said at that point in time, the purpose of the review is to assess the long-term benefits of the separation. It's understanding what's best for the shareholders and the businesses in the medium to long term. So today's trading update is not impacting that per se. The core rationale remains the same. Primark is at scale. There's complexity. The food is less well understood, and we think that that is something that we can benefit by having the two businesses separate. So that rationale still holds and continue to be true.

So at this point in time, the trading update does not mean anything else than what we are updating, which is making sure that the guidance is appropriate to the market. It's a separate topic from the review. The second question on click-and-collect, I think Eoin has mentioned it in the past that we do have plans to roll out in Europe. It's the timing and how we have the right infrastructure to do so and to be able to benefit from that digital activation. Eoin?

Eoin Tonge
Interim CEO, Primark

Yeah. Look, I don't think the answer for us to improve performance in Europe is just about click-and-collect. I think there are a number of things that we believe we need to do. I mean, initially, it's going to be about just improving our product proposition, getting more customer engagement. I think there are the kind of priorities. I mean, we feel pretty good that we can get back on the front foot into Europe on the back of that. I think I have said before, actually, that I would see us going into click-and-collect into Europe in time. And so I think that's going to be part of the journey as well. But I think there's plenty more we can do to get back on the front foot in Europe.

Jon Cox
Head of Swiss Equities and European Consumer Equities, Kepler

I wonder if I just quickly follow up on Grocery and the weakness there. What if you just talk about any particular segments at all? A lot of news flow on GLP-1s. We saw the U.S. new dietary recommendations come out overnight. Any thoughts on that, on your Grocery portfolio and maybe some of the weakness we're seeing?

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Yeah. I mean, at the moment, what we've seen, and certainly have seen in this first quarter, is a continuation of what we had seen before, which is linked to the U.S. consumer being quite subdued, and particularly in some of our customer base of the Hispanic population following everything that's been happening from April onwards. So there's definitely a consumer piece. And again, that's impacting our bakery ingredients customers that are seeing those volume declines on the bakery ingredients, and therefore, we are seeing volume declines as well. GLP-1 is a good question, and we're certainly following it closely and monitoring closely. It feels that it's a bit too early to call that as one of the impacts, but we are looking at what does that mean.

At the moment, it feels like the biggest factor is that this consumer that is going out less, the food services is down, so there's quite a lot of factors that just point to our customer base being quite subdued.

Jon Cox
Head of Swiss Equities and European Consumer Equities, Kepler

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Thank you, Jon.

Operator

Thank you. We will now take the next question. And the next question comes from the line of Adam Cochrane from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Adam Cochrane
General Retail and Luxury Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Good morning, guys. A couple of questions on Primark, if I can. In terms of the European performance, can you give any differences by region across Europe? And what I'm really thinking about is this weakness driven by lower footfall into the stores? Is it lower basket size? And when you're sort of analyzing this, is there any concern over brand awareness, price perception that is completely different between the U.K. and Europe? Or is it really just, you think, the initiatives that you've taken in the U.K. that's the main difference between there and Europe? And the second question I've got is, you talked about this sort of increased markdown. Historically, you've had quite an effective clear as you go mechanism for clearing through inventory.

But looking forward now, do you have to think about changing the amount of product that you're buying, given this weakness in the European consumer, to try and manage the profitability? Or how are you going to balance between sales and profitability? Thanks.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Thanks, Adam.

Eoin Tonge
Interim CEO, Primark

Yeah, do you want me to?

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Yeah, sure, Eoin, go with the European performance. I probably will comment on the markdown as well, but go for it.

Eoin Tonge
Interim CEO, Primark

Yeah. Yeah. Look, I mean, there have been differences across the different markets, I guess, over the last, I would say, 12 months. But that being said, I mean, I would say that if I look at the period, there's been a sort of just general weakness in a lot of our markets across Europe. I think there is quite significant market weakness as well. I don't think a lot of this is actually market forces. I mean, some of the surprises are on our end, and some of it's kind of, there's always kind of, when you look back in time, execution things that we could do better. And I'll come back to that when I talk about the markdown point. But if I look at France and Italy, have been a bit challenging. Germany hasn't been great.

Spain has been okay. It didn't have a great Christmas, not that dissimilar to what we saw in the U.K. So I think in France and Italy, it has been a little bit more about kind of footfall and Germany to a certain extent. I think a lot of the things that, yeah, we have to work on are the same things we have been working on in the U.K. I think brand awareness is not a problem in Spain. It's a bit of a problem in France. We're not hugely scale in France. We are strong in the metropolitan areas, but that's it to a certain extent. And a little bit in Italy, but just again, it's a scale point. I think the price perception point where I think have been evident for the last 12 months or so.

I think we need to, as I said in November, I think we need to get back on the front foot in relation to us being, again, being known for the sharpest on prices and with proper blue water. So that's the reasons why we're rolling out major lines into Europe into the second half of the year, or sorry, from now, actually. So I think a lot of those kind of things are the same. And like awareness, there is definitely more we can do on the customer engagement side. If I look at some of our competitor base, bricks and mortar in most cases, they are doing more on the customer engagement side of things.

On the markdown, before I hand back to Joana, look, I mean, obviously, we've been asking ourselves that question an awful lot in the last few weeks as to what you would do differently, etc., and so on. We did come into this year with strong expectations. We didn't think they were unrealistic. They look now a little bit unrealistic, obviously, in hindsight. But I think some things have surprised us. I think probably surprised the marketplace. Cold weather product in particular sort of has not been softened as a result of that. That's been a large part of the markdown. Christmas performance, as we've talked about, and I think to a certain extent, just general distress in the marketplace has impacted as well, so I think, yeah, there are clearly learnings.

I mean, I think particularly on that cold weather side of things, I think we will have to think a little bit more differently as we go forward. So yeah, you always have learnings when you come through an environment like we just had.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

I'm not going to add much into that, just on the expectations for the full-year margin of the 10% if the current performance continues. Of course, as Eoin said, what we are expecting is to get like-for-like growth moving, particularly in Europe now, and we've seen it in the U.K. The assumption at the moment is, yes, if we have the same performance, we would have those markdowns. We are expecting to see some of that traction coming through with all the initiatives that Eoin has started mentioning in his answer.

Adam Cochrane
General Retail and Luxury Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

That's great.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

So any question

Adam Cochrane
General Retail and Luxury Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

To follow up? Does any of this change your outlook for the store sizes that are required in your European rollout? I know that over time, you've changed store sizes in the U.S. and Germany and other places. Is this going to change what your ideal Primark store looks like across Europe for your new stores?

Eoin Tonge
Interim CEO, Primark

I'm not sure the last period changed it too much. I think, Adam, I think we have been reducing the store sizes anyway, actually. I mean, if you look at the stores we've opened in France more recently, they've been smaller than historically. So I think we have been reducing that anyway. So I think there's a lot more that goes into sort of how we think about the store sizes, obviously, also thinking about sort of what the future overall sort of channel kind of approach might be, etc., and so on. But I think we've already been reducing the store sizes. We would only be targeting kind of large store formats in sort of primary metropolitan areas. So look, yeah, I'm not sure. I don't think the last period of time is giving me cause for thought. It's more about how we think about the long term.

Adam Cochrane
General Retail and Luxury Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Yeah. That's great. Thanks.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Thanks, Adam.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question today comes from the line of Sreedhar Mahamkali from UBS. Please go ahead.

Sreedhar Mahamkali
Managing Director, UBS

Hi. Good morning. Hi. Thanks for taking my questions. A couple of questions, both on Primark, please. Firstly, I guess if you could, when you just referred to the markdown, clearly, that must be a meaningful part of the margin decline, 160 basis points. If you could just help us deleverage versus that markdown impact so that we can start to get our models in line for next year. And also, while we're there, anything you can help us in terms of how we should think about Primark margins into next year, more midterm? That's the first question. Secondly, you've referenced to improving price perception in the U.K. Can you just give us a little bit more context there? When have you started to see these improvements, and when did that actually start to turn into better sales trends?

Just give us a bit of a time frame so we can think about what we should be modeling over time in Europe as well. Thank you.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Thanks, Sreedhar. So on the markdown, and actually, I think it's a relevant question as we look at the bridge between our expectations and now, the difference between what we said before, which is just slightly below last year's margin, and where we are guiding now, which is the 10%, it is really mostly the markdown. So if you think in terms of moving parts, that is the bulk of it. The deleverage is a factor, but actually, we are taking some mitigations against that. It's still a part, but the big bulk is markdowns, as you mentioned. And into midterm, if you're meaning in terms of margin going forward, well, it's too early to guide anyway. We don't even know what are the tailwinds or headwinds, definitely, for going into next year.

And in any event, I think I'll repeat what we've said before, which is we are putting things in place to drive like-for-like top-line growth. So the purpose is not to guide to a target margin, so focusing on top-line sales. And the price perception in the U.K., maybe, Eoin?

Eoin Tonge
Interim CEO, Primark

Yeah. Price perception, yes. Yeah. Look, I think, I mean, I think you can see from the market share. I mean, there's a few different ways of looking at price perception, right? I mean, I guess the ultimate point is probably our market share performance, which is where we're kind of getting back to relatively consistent market share growth, which is good. And I guess to a certain extent, that's been happening for the last five months or so, which I think is good. I mean, it's probably a number of things. I think we are quite pleased with how the major fines have sort of helped remind people of our price performance. So I think that's been going for the last few months in the U.K. And if we look at our brand tracker, certainly, we've seen a good improvement as well on that.

It's been a matter of months, I would say, Sreedhar, in terms of where we've been able to sort of kind of get back on the in sort of getting that performance. Well, I mean, I think there's still work to be done, right? I think major fines is only one element of it. I think there's a number of elements to it. We're pretty committed, as I said in November, to really getting back to properly being a proper value leader. I think that the major fines is one aspect of the things we're going to do from now and into the future. That's what I'd say. Then hopefully, that will kind of see us getting back into growth, both in Europe and continued growth in the U.K.

Sreedhar Mahamkali
Managing Director, UBS

Thank you.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Thanks, Sreedhar.

Operator

Thank you. We will now take the next question. And the next question comes from the line of Georgina Johanan from JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

Georgina Johanan
Research Analyst, JPMorgan

Hi, everyone. Thanks, and indeed, Happy New Year. Three questions from me, please. First of all, just in terms of Eoin, you made some comments sort of seeming to suggest that it wasn't online players who were taking share in Europe, but rather maybe some particular bricks and mortar competition had stepped up. Am I understanding that right? And if so, is there a particular player who has improved incrementally? And is that a local player or kind of a global player? Any color on that would be really helpful, please. Second question, just in terms of the markdowns, is that spread quite evenly across markets? Did you experience a significant increase in markdown in the U.K. as well? I ask, of course, given that that market was in positive like-for-like territory.

And then finally, just in terms of pricing in the U.K., I know you're doing a lot of work around price perception, but I just wanted to understand, have you actually lowered like-for-like prices in the U.K.? And if so, by how much, please? Thank you.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Thanks, Georgina. Happy New Year to you as well. I'll take the markdowns and then hand over to Eoin, if that's okay. As you would see, the performance in the U.K. means that we would have more markdowns in Europe, but all that said, the markdowns were not predominantly in Europe. There was a spread across the different geographies, but less so in the U.K. In terms of the other two questions, Eoin?

Eoin Tonge
Interim CEO, Primark

Yeah. No, I mean, Georgina, morning. Yeah. When we've been looking through the relative category performance and trying to see where we've won, where we've lost, it's clear to me it's not a pure-play online story alone. Maybe that's the point that I'm making here. So if I was going to say there's parts of accessories that it's clear that is a bit more sort of pure-play online. But if I look at kind of places like, to a certain extent, kidswear and a bit on home, if we look at that, that's more local bricks-and-mortar type of competition. So it's obviously different by different category, different needs state, etc. But I guess my point I was saying here is that it's not just a pure-play online point.

And for each of those cases, I think we know what we need to do. Some are a bit trickier than others, but I think we know what we need to do. And some of it is increased competition. Some of it, I don't think we've executed as well as we could do, or at least we know what we need to do to adapt. So hopefully, that helps. Pricing in the U.K. No, no. I mean, the primary kind of pricing element that we've done so far in the U.K. is on the major lines, which is much more selective pricing. And yeah. So I think we'll watch this space in terms of what we might do into the future. But for now, that's all we've done.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Yeah. Thank you. We have not moved like-for-like prices, Georgina.

Georgina Johanan
Research Analyst, JPMorgan

Thank you very much. That's really clear. If I just may follow up on that point on the bricks-and-mortar and sort of the competition, so it's not like you're saying there's actually been a step change in the competitive environment from a particular player or a new entrant or something like that.

Eoin Tonge
Interim CEO, Primark

No. I mean, I think if you were to look back a longer time, I mean, you guys know this better as much as I do, is that there has been growth in the sort of the less more kind of pure-apparel players. And there's been growth in those types of players. And that's probably happened over time. I don't think it's not the last period of time. So in some categories, like for example, home, there has been a step up in competition, but it's happened over time.

Georgina Johanan
Research Analyst, JPMorgan

Super clear. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, if you were to ask a question, please slowly press star one and one on your telephone. That is star one and one to ask a question. We will now go to the next question, and your next question comes from the line of Anubhav Malhotra from Panmure Liberum. Please go ahead.

Anubhav Malhotra
Equity Research Analyst, Panmure Liberum

Hi, team. I just had one more to add, and it's again back on the margin expectations at Primark. I mean, you've given us the full year expectations, probably more for a worst-case scenario where the current trends continue for the rest of the year of around 10%. Maybe you could give us more color on what your base-case scenario for Primark margins is, if the initiatives that you've put in to improve the performance do actually work? Thank you.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Hi, Anub. Happy New Year to you. It's a good question. You're right. What we wanted to do is make sure that we provide the estimates on if we were to continue with the current performance and having the impact of markdowns, bearing in mind the expectations we have on sales. That's the guidance we're giving, but we're also saying that we are very hopeful on all the initiatives that are now being underway in Europe and are being also other initiatives that are coming into the U.K. on products, etc. But we haven't set a top scenario. I think what we're saying is that we're absolutely hopeful on all those initiatives as we've seen them translate into positive like-for-like in the U.K. But we acknowledge the challenges.

Anubhav Malhotra
Equity Research Analyst, Panmure Liberum

Thank you.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Thanks, Anub.

Operator

Thank you. We will now go to the next question. And the next question comes from the line of Warwick Okines from BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.

Warwick Okines
Analyst, BNP Paribas

Thanks. Morning, Eoin. Firstly, I just wanted to come back on your comments about the sort of balance between the top-line growth and the Primark EBIT margin. I know he's not on the call, but I think it's fair to say that George has sort of generally said that he's wanted a guardrail of comfortably double-digit margins at Primark through the cycle. I just wondered whether the sort of success of the investment that you've had in the U.K. in terms of driving like-for-like and market share has maybe persuaded you that you can actually get a better overall result by driving top-line and accepting a lower EBIT margin. And then my second question is around the actual mechanics of the markdown and how you handled that through the quarter. Could you just talk a little bit more about what you actually did?

We know the impact on the gross margin, but what did you actually do? Was this all red tickets, or does the markdown comment you make also include some of the value investments that you've been making, maybe adjusting the sort of first initial price? Thank you.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Thanks, Warwick. I'll take the first one, and then I think Eoin can give some color on the markdown and the execution of the markdown. So the balance between top-line growth versus EBIT, what we said is that we will focus on driving that like-for-like and top-line growth, and the margin will come as a consequence. I know George is not on the call, of course, as you said. What we have said in terms of margin was that we were comfortable between the 11 and 12, but not to say that that was the only guardrail that we would put around the margin. What we definitely tried to put forward is that the margin is not the objective. The objective is driving top-line growth. Of course, if you've got growth, you will have leverage, and therefore, there will be margin consequences. We are continuing to invest.

Some of that investment will be phased. Some of it will be translating into medium and longer-term growth as well. And that's why we said that the priority is that investment, if the initiatives are resulting into top-line growth. And of course, that's what we're monitoring very closely as we are rolling those out. But again, the margin, there isn't a, "We are now down to 10," or, "We now accept a margin of these." That's definitely not the thinking. The thinking is, "Let's drive top-line growth, and with the top-line growth, we will have the consequent margin." Eoin, do you want to talk about how we run through the markdowns through the quarter?

Eoin Tonge
Interim CEO, Primark

Yeah, sure. Yeah. And by the way, I just echo what you said there in terms of where the focus and priority is, which is on driving like-for-like growth. So we're not going to do anything stupid, but that's where our priority is. Yeah. Look, I wouldn't say there's anything. I mean, I know it's not been a great markdown period of time, but I mean, we talked a little about the context of that already. But I don't think there's anything sort of particularly different in terms of how we did the markdown through the period. The markdown we're talking about is what I'm going to call the traditional markdown. So it doesn't include any of the other sort of price activity that we talked about before.

So, as we said, obviously, cold weather product in particular, we sort of started the markdown as we went through the period. And then with some Christmas parts of Christmas as well, as it's being sold for Christmas, obviously, that would have kind of accelerated it as well. So, I don't think I would say there was anything particularly sort of unusual or special about sort of our markdown activity through the year other than, obviously, the scale of it was not what we wanted it to be.

Warwick Okines
Analyst, BNP Paribas

Thank you, and if I may just squeeze in.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

And.

Warwick Okines
Analyst, BNP Paribas

Oh, sorry. Go on, Joana.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Sorry. I was just going to say, Warwick, and as Eoin alluded to Christmas, we also know that that's what we've seen on the high street, not just with us. It just seems to have been with the difficult Christmas period, more of a markdown. So there's definitely been a phasing post-Christmas on that markdown activity. Go on. You're going to ask something else.

Warwick Okines
Analyst, BNP Paribas

Yeah. If I could squeeze in another one, just to sort of end on a slightly cheerier note. I know it's only one store, but can you talk a bit about the Kuwait opening and in particular how your pricing relative to peers in the Middle East?

Eoin Tonge
Interim CEO, Primark

Yeah. Well, maybe I'll have a go at that. I mean, yeah, it's going incredibly well. Thank you for asking a cheery, good question. Because I mean, it does remind you here that there's still quite a lot of growth available to Primark, and we've been more than happy with the Kuwait opening. Pricing-wise, yeah, we're sharp. That's where there's different local competitors. We know exactly who they are. That's how we operate. We're all over it, and we're the best price leader in the market. So, but it's been great so far, and we've got a lot of exciting stuff next week or next year, sorry, with Dubai and a bit beyond as well. So yeah, that's a very exciting frontier for us.

Warwick Okines
Analyst, BNP Paribas

Brilliant. Thanks for.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Dubai is quite soon, isn't it? Dubai is coming up. We've got the stores in Dubai.

Warwick Okines
Analyst, BNP Paribas

Dubai is end of March, yeah. Yeah.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Yeah.

Warwick Okines
Analyst, BNP Paribas

Brilliant.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Thank you for that. It's definitely good to have a positive note. Thank you, Warwick, for that.

Operator

Thank you. We will now take our final question for today. Your final question comes from the line of Vandita Sood from Citi. Please go ahead.

Vandita Sood
VP and Equity Research, Citi

Morning. Happy New Year, and thank you for taking my questions. I just had a couple on food, if that's okay. So firstly, on Grocery, we've been talking about worsening trends in the U.S.-focused businesses, but I believe that's about 15% of the mix. So for the rest of the business, especially the international brands, I think you were planning for volume growth driven by innovation. Just a quick update on that would be great. And on the Ingredients, as I understand, you were planning to reinvest some profits and hold margins flat. Now, with weaker trading, are you still going ahead with those investments, or do some of those need to be pushed back? And lastly, just a quick one on phasing in the food businesses, if you could add a bit more color on that, 1H versus 2H. Thank you.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Thank you, Vandita. So let me take those ones in turn. So Grocery, yes, the expectations we had on the U.S. consumer and the fact that they were worse than what we had expected as that translated into the first quarter is really the reason for our decrease. Just in terms of your comment about how much the U.S. business is compared to the rest, the U.S. business from a sales point of view is around the 9%, which I quoted before. The profit is more than that. And just as a reminder, we have a joint venture as well, which is consolidated just on a profit basis. So the impact of that consumer weakness and softness on the U.S. is more marked than just on the sales line.

But you are very right to point out that the international brands had quite a lot of initiatives, and we're definitely seeing some of that innovation coming through. Twinings has actually performed very well in the first quarter, and we've seen volume growth, absolutely, on the back of those initiatives. We actually got more initiatives in the second half. So to your question around phasing, the first thing that I would note is in Grocery, there's a shift towards the second half with more initiative, but also a comparator that is more favorable in the second half. In Ingredients, the investments are going ahead. Yes, we've got weakness in our U.S. consumer, or actually our customers are seeing volume softness, but that doesn't stop us believing in that business.

And of course, this is not about the short term, and we're hoping that that volatile environment in the U.S. will abate at some point. Difficult to say when, but the investment proposition is very much one that we feel confident with and excited about. Did I miss something on your question?

Vandita Sood
VP and Equity Research, Citi

Oh, the H1, H2.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

So I mentioned it for Grocery. Actually, it's a very good point for the food businesses because on Sugar as well, where we've confirmed the guidance, there is a potential technical, that I call it, and that I talk about hyperinflation. But in Malawi, if we do have devaluation of the kwacha, which has been expected in the first half of our financial year, that will skew the profitability to the second half because the devaluation will take place.

Hyperinflation accounting will be applied for the half year, and we will be recovering that devaluation through the pricings in the second half. So thank you for highlighting that. Yes, the food businesses are very much skewed towards the second half profit rather than first half. And I'll summarize it. It's the comparators. It is the technical accounting on Malawi for Sugar, and then actually the initiatives on the international brands for the second half, which are stronger.

Vandita Sood
VP and Equity Research, Citi

Very clear. Thank you.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Thank you, Vandita.

Operator

Thank you. That was our final question for today. I will now hand back to yourself, Joana, for closing remarks.

Joana Edwards
Interim Finance Director, ABF

Thank you all for joining. Very meaty words unexpected, and there's a lot of announcements today. As we say, we feel very confident, well, hopeful on all those initiatives that we talked about for Primark. But we feel that at this point in time, it was right to update the guidance. So again, thank you for joining the call. I wish you all a very Happy New Year, and we'll follow up with questions on a one-to-one if there are any further questions. But with that, I wish you a good day.

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