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Earnings Call: H2 2025

May 29, 2025

Nathan Coe
CEO, Auto Trader Group

Welcome to Auto Trader's results for the full year ending March 31st, 2025. I'm joined by our COO, Catherine, and our CFO, Jamie, who will both be presenting and joining me for Q&A later on. Overall, we're pleased with the progress that we've made through this financial year. This includes our financial results, although, as expected, they were impacted by the acceleration in speed of sale during the year. Importantly, we've made good progress on the areas that are within our control and plan on doubling down on these in the year ahead. Firstly, our market position is strong, with record levels of buyers and retailers using Auto Trader. Our platform strategy is operating at scale, with more than 1 billion calls to our data services benefiting over 90% of retailer customers through over 120 technology partners.

Secondly, our event in April this year has gone well, where we monetized the first features within our CoDriver AI product suite. We see good potential for future development in this area as we make AI available to dramatically improve the car retailing and buying experience. These first products have seen immediate and strong engagement with both retailers and consumers. Thirdly, we have continued to make progress on digital retailing, where we have materially increased customers, stock, and deals generated. Given the potential of this product to strengthen our core business, we've decided to change our approach, which should result in both accelerated adoption and monetization, which Catherine will cover later on. The combination of these means we have four rich streams of future product development, including advertising products, AT Connect and our data products, digital retailing, and now CoDriver.

When combined with a car market that will grow over the long term and our strong market position, this product pipeline gives us the confidence that we can continue to grow and make meaningful improvements to the buying and retailing of cars in the U.K. I'd like to thank all my colleagues at Auto Trader, our customers, shareholders, and wider stakeholders for their continuing trust and commitment to Auto Trader. Starting with some of the highlights during the year, group revenue grew 5%, operating profit grew 8%, and basic EPS grew 12%. This demonstrates the operating leverage in our business and the consistent application of our capital policy. In the core Auto Trader business, revenue growth was 7%, and operating profit, excluding the impact of digital services tax, which we incurred for the first time, was also up 7%. Retailer revenue grew in line with expectations at 7%.

Forecourt numbers have also remained strong, which has altered the mix between retailer growth and average revenue per retailer, or ARPA. Retailers grew 2% for the year, and ARPA increased by 5%, or GBP 133 year on year. The majority of ARPA growth this year came from a strong pricing and product event in April 2024, where we launched our third Auto Trader Connect module. Consumer engagement on the platform has reached record levels, and our lead over our nearest marketplace competitor remains at over 10 times. Deal Builder customer numbers have grown by just over 80% to 2,000 retailers, and consumers generated almost 50,000 deals, which was triple the year before. The interaction of market dynamics and our business model has influenced our results, as I mentioned earlier.

While Auto Trader revenue growth was healthy at 7%, it would have been higher if it was not for the significant increase in the speed with which vehicles were sold during the year. The charts on this page hopefully go some way to explaining this. In the top left, you can see the increase in number of visits on Auto Trader, which has reached record levels. This is a proxy for vehicle demand, which has been strong for the past three years and strengthened again in this financial year. Over the same period, against that higher demand, used car prices actually fell, which you can see in the chart on the top right. This was driven by a relatively sudden drop in trade prices during late calendar year 2023 over nervousness about significant depleting activity that was happening at the time.

That flowed through to retail prices for used cars, which you can see fell from mid-FY 2024 through to mid-FY 2025. This explains some of the challenging results you may have seen from retailers during that period, despite strong consumer demand. These pricing trends, when combined with strong demand, drove the acceleration of speed of sale, which can be seen in the bottom left chart. This then flowed through to live stock on Auto Trader, which you can see in the chart on the bottom right. Average days to sell was 32 days last year versus 30 days this year, which is 6% faster. That flows through to our stock-based commercial model. Despite having 5% more cars advertised during the year, retailer stock, and therefore the stock lever, was actually down 1% for the year.

As you can see on the charts, in the second half of this financial year, demand continues to be strong, and used car prices are slowly adjusting upwards. However, we have not yet seen speed of sale slow. We have, however, responded with tactical offers to maximize stock on the platform, and we continue to monitor all these metrics very closely, both for our own performance and the performance of our customers. I'll briefly cover the financial results, which Jamie will cover in more detail next. Group revenue increased by 5%, with Auto Trader revenue increasing by 7%. Group operating profit increased by 8%. Auto Trader operating profit increased by 4% after the impact of the U.K. digital services tax. In line with expectations, Autorama reduced its operating losses to GBP 4.3 million. Non-cash acquisition-related costs were GBP 12.9 million, which was GBP 8.2 million less than in the prior year.

Group operating profit margin was 63%, and Auto Trader's operating profit margin contracted slightly to 70%, again due to the digital services tax. Basic EPS was up 12%, and cash generated from operations was up 5%. We returned GBP 275.7 million of cash to shareholders through GBP 157.3 million in share buybacks and GBP 88.4 million in dividends. Today, we're declaring a final dividend of GBP 7.10 per share, making total dividends GBP 10.60 per share for the year, which is up 10% on the previous year. Now on to operational results. The average number of cross-platform visits were up 5% to 81.6 million per month, and we continue to account for over 75% of all time spent across our main competitor set. The average number of retailer forecourts advertising with us was up 2% to 14,013 retailers.

Average revenue per retailer, as mentioned earlier, was up 5% to GBP 2,854, mainly due to our product and pricing event that we implemented on April 1, 2024. Live car stock was up 1% to 449,000, with that stock growth driven by private listings. Finally, the average number of full-time equivalent employees increased to 1,267 during the period. Now for our cultural KPIs, which are a subset of metrics we measure to ensure we are creating an environment that allows us to attract, engage, develop, and retain the very best talent. 91% of employees are proud to work at Auto Trader, and our Glassdoor rating is 4.6 out of five stars. At the 31st of March, six of our nine board members were women, and two were ethnically diverse. 44% of our people are women, and 19% are ethnically diverse.

43% of our leaders were women, and 10% ethnically diverse. We maintain our aim to achieve net zero carbon emissions across our value chain by 2040 and halve emissions by 2030. Our carbon emissions for the year across scopes one, two, and three reduced 6% to 93.2 thousand tons, of which the vast majority are scope three. I'll now hand you over to Jamie to talk us through the financials in more detail.

Jamie Warner
CFO, Auto Trader Group

Thanks, Nathan, and good morning, everyone. I'll start by focusing on the core Auto Trader financials. Starting with revenue, total Auto Trader revenue increased 7% to GBP 564.8 million. Trade revenue also increased by 7%, with the largest component of this being retailer revenue, which also grew by 7%. The average number of retailer forecourts on our platform increased to just over 14,000, a 2% year-on-year increase, and average revenue per retailer increased by 5% to GBP 2,854 per month, with more detail given on the following slide. Also, within trade revenue, we've seen an increase in Home Trader Pay-as-you-go listings and growth in other trade revenue. Consumer services revenue increased by 7%. Within this, private revenue generated from individual sellers was consistent year-on-year.

Motoring services increased by 22%, largely through finance revenue, where we act as an introducer on private adverts and trade adverts, where the retailer does not offer their own finance. Revenue from manufacturing agency customers decreased 8% year-on-year. Much of this decline was driven by us foregoing a small amount of platform revenue for supporting certain manufacturers' used vehicle locators in exchange for VIN-level build data, which is an important data set and feeds into our full suite of taxonomy, valuations, and vehicle metrics. Now on to ARPA, live car stock, and retailers. The chart on the left shows the components that contribute to the movement in ARPA compared to the prior year. As you can see, ARPA growth was driven by the price and product levers, with a small decline in stock. ARPA growth in the year has been impacted by the 2% growth in retailer forecourts.

This growth came from lower-yielding independent and non-car customers. There was also the impact from the loss of one very high-yielding online retailer. This change in retailer mix has had a dilutive impact of just over 1.5%, giving underlying ARPA growth for this year of just over 6.5%. The impact of that dilution is prorated across the three ARPA levers. Taking each of the levers in turn and what drove their growth, we delivered our annual pricing event for all customers on 1st of April , 2024, which included additional products and a like-for-like price increase, which contributed GBP 78 to ARPA growth. Product contributed GBP 77. Most of this growth was from products included in retailer advertising packages in April 2024, which included trend evaluations and enhanced retail check. The remaining product lever growth was driven by growth in new car, where we increased the number of paying customers over the period.

Turning now to stock, you'll see on the right-hand side of the chart that the number of live cars advertised on Auto Trader increased slightly year-on-year. Used car stock increased by 1%, which was driven by an increase in the number of private listings, which do not impact ARPA. The volume of slots retailers paid for in the year was slightly down, which is reflected in the stock lever. Auto Trader costs increased 13% to GBP 174.4 million. However, half of this cost increase, or GBP 10.2 million, relates to the digital services tax, which was recognized for the first time. Excluding the impact of the digital services tax, costs increased 7%.

Within this, people costs increased by 14% due to an increase in the average number of full-time equivalent employees to 1,140, an increase in underlying salary costs and share-based payments, largely due to the introduction of our new all-employee share scheme in November 2023. Marketing spend increased to GBP 24.6 million, while other costs, which include data services, property-related costs, and other overheads, decreased by 8%. Depreciation and amortization increased by 7%. As a reminder, we fully expense our research and development costs, hence our low levels of CapEx and depreciation. In addition to our investment in cloud-based services, we have around 400 people in product and technology who are continuously improving our platforms and developing new products for consumers and retailers. Operating profit increased by 4% to GBP 394 million, and operating profit margins contracted slightly due to the impact of digital services tax.

Excluding this tax, operating profit increased 7%, and margins were stable. Our share of profit generated by Dealer Auction, the group's joint venture, increased 29% to GBP 3.6 million. Having covered Auto Trader, the main part of the group, we'll briefly cover Autorama results. As a reminder, the Autorama acquisition was and remains part of the strategy to bring attractive new car offers to car buyers on Auto Trader and to make new cars a more important part of our proposition. Autorama revenue was GBP 36.3 million, with vehicle and accessory sales contributing GBP 26.1 million and commission and ancillary revenue of GBP 10.2 million. Vehicle and accessory sales relates to vehicles that flow through our balance sheet, where we delivered just under 900 vehicles in the period, the cost of which were taken through cost of goods sold. People costs decreased by 32%. Marketing was GBP 2.7 million, and other costs were GBP 2.8 million.

There was GBP 1.5 million of depreciation and amortization, which was largely for developed software capitalized in prior years. Excluding the cost of goods sold, costs of GBP 14.4 million represent a 34% year-on-year reduction. Total deliveries amounted to 6,268 units. The leasing market for brokers has been impacted by the broader new car market dynamics, where supply into this channel has been limited, although this has improved slightly in recent months. The Autorama segment made an operating loss of GBP 4.3 million. This was a significant reduction on last year through the accelerated integration into the main Auto Trader business and platform. With group revenue up 5%, reduced group central costs, and a reduced Autorama loss, we saw total group operating profit increase 8% to GBP 376.8 million, and group operating profit margins increased to 63%.

As we grow, the strong cash generation of our business leaves us well placed to return surplus cash to shareholders. Cash generated from operations was at GBP 399.7 million. The statutory income statement outlines areas beyond our revenue and operating costs. Net finance costs decreased to GBP 1.1 million, largely due to reducing our gross debt to nil. Our profit before tax was GBP 375.7 million, 9% higher than last year. The group tax charge of GBP 93.1 million represents an effective tax rate of 25%. For clarity, digital services tax, being a tax on revenue, is reported as an operating expense in the Auto Trader segment and is not included in this calculation. The recently announced UK-US trade deal has not impacted DST. However, we will continue to monitor the progress of any changes to the application of this tax.

Although, for the avoidance of doubt, we'd recommend modeling the cost as recurring and growing in line with revenue. Basic EPS increased by 12%, which was slightly higher than the growth in net income due to fewer shares in issue following our share buyback program. Today, we're declaring a final dividend of GBP 7.10 per share, making total dividends for the year GBP 10.60 per share. Now, to briefly review net bank debt and capital policy. During the period, the group repaid all of the GBP 30 million drawn of its revolving credit facility and held cash and cash equivalents of GBP 15.3 million. Cash generated from operations was largely used to pay tax or return to shareholders through a combination of dividends and share buybacks.

The group's long-term capital allocation policy remains unchanged, continuing to invest in the business, enabling it to grow while returning around one-third of net income to shareholders in the form of dividends. Following these activities, any surplus cash will be used to continue our share buyback program. That concludes the financials. I'll now hand over to Catherine to talk through the market dynamics and progress against our strategic priorities.

Catherine Faiers
COO, Auto Trader Group

Thank you, Jamie, and good morning, everyone. Over the past 20 years, the size of the U.K. car park has grown steadily by just over 300,000 cars per year, reaching over 36 million vehicles. The COVID-19 pandemic disrupted this trend, causing new car production to fall below levels seen during the global financial crisis of 2008 to 2009. Despite these one-off shocks, we expect the U.K. car park to continue to grow over the long term. This growth is driven by GDP growth, population growth, and stable car ownership trends. The consistent vehicle change cycle in the U.K., typically between three and four years, translates this growth into increasing used car transaction volumes each year. We also expect the value of both new and used cars to rise over time. In 2011, the average price of a used car advertised on Auto Trader was GBP 9,000.

Today, it is over GBP 17,000, reflecting average growth of over 4% per year. This increase is driven by inflation, improved product functionality, and the shift towards more expensive electric vehicles. Over the past decade, gross margin percentages have remained relatively consistent, which means that higher vehicle prices typically lead to higher absolute gross profits for retailers. This trend, combined with the growth in transaction volumes, has resulted in an increased gross profit pool, which has enabled us to grow revenues without significantly increasing our take rate. Moving on to slide 17 and looking at both new car registrations and used car transactions. From a new car perspective, supply has continued to improve following the impact of the pandemic in 2020 and 2021, but the growth rate has slowed to 2% over the last 12 months. This can be seen in the chart on the left.

The market remains slightly below the levels seen pre-pandemic and significantly lower than the highs of 2017. The retail market, or new cars sold directly to consumers, has been more significantly impacted. This market has not been as low as it is today since the global financial crisis. Over the past 12 months, we've seen manufacturers attempt to stimulate private demand with increasing levels of discounts and finance offers. This has been particularly prevalent with electric vehicles, where the zero-emission vehicle mandate is in place. This requires a minimum percentage of registrations to be electric, with significant penalties for failing to achieve the targets. Despite these discounts, private retail sales were down year on year, with the registration offset coming through stronger fleet volumes. The fleet channel saw very little volume between 2020 and 2022, as manufacturers prioritized higher margin retail volumes.

As a result, these players have been replacing what has become a much older fleet. We do expect this trend to ease over the coming months, as this replacement cycle is now closer to historical norms. As seen in the chart on the right, used car transactions have continued to grow, with a 4% increase in volumes over the last year. Over the past 12 months, our audience position has remained strong, and both the volume and engagement of buyers has increased. The number of cross-platform visits increased 5% year- on- year to reach a record number of GBP 81.6 million per month. Engagement, which we measure as cross-platform minutes, also increased to 557.2 million on average per month. We also saw increasing use of our mobile app, which has seen total downloads now reach over 22 million.

The chart on the right-hand side shows the total minutes spent across an expanded set of competitors, retailers, and manufacturers. On average, over the year, Comscore estimated that consumers spent over 10 times more minutes on Auto Trader than our nearest marketplace competitor, the combination of Gumtree, Motors, eBay, and Cazoo, and 15 times that of CarGurus and PistonHeads combined. Let's move on to consider progress against our strategic priorities. We've made good progress against each of our three strategic focus areas. These areas are closely interconnected. Our platform and our digital retailing capabilities build on the strength of our marketplace and deepen our relationships with both retailers and car buyers. Our marketplace continues to grow, and we have seen a record number of car buyers and retailers using Auto Trader. This means we continue to grow and build our unique data advantages through all of the observations captured.

Whether it is consumer behavior and interactions, retailer actions, and pricing trends, we continue to extend our lead in this area. We have executed our annual pricing and product events successfully, which included the third module of Auto Trader Connect, trended valuations, and enhanced retail check. We have also significantly enhanced search, including launching a grid view layout, continuous scrolling, and redesigned search filters. As part of our platform strategy, we continue to make the technology and data that we have built and scaled to support Auto Trader available to our partners. This is a key differentiator and connects our data and services into key business processes for our customers. We have seen strong and growing engagement from retailers with over a billion calls on our data services in the year. We are also leveraging our data capabilities.

We launched CoDriver, a suite of AI-powered solutions to significantly improve both the retailer and consumer experience. We scaled our Deal Builder trial in the year, enabling consumers to do more of the car buying journey online. We have consistently delivered our pricing and product event in April each year. On the 1st of April 2017, we aligned all customers to this annual event, which means our customers are familiar with this cycle and expect both in-year product launches and their rates to change on this date. Each year, we deliver more value to retailers through products, data, and tools made available as part of these advertising packages. For the first five years, the product focus was broadly around core advertising products.

This enabled retailers to produce better quality adverts on our platform with videos, additional images, chat, and text functionality, and to have their own dedicated customizable store on Auto Trader. The inclusion of these products delivered a compound ARPA contribution of 2% per year. Over time, we have moved beyond launching advertising features to embedding our unique data and scalable technology services to power our customers' businesses. Developing our advertising products remains a source of future product development, but driving retailing performance through data and insights is a significant priority for our customers. The three modules of Auto Trader Connect we have launched have taken us from an advertising platform to an integral part of our customers' operations, allowing them to make higher quality, faster decisions. Usage of these services has continued to grow over the three-year period, with over 90% of retailers now actively engaged with these services.

At IPO, we talked about eye control and data products being future growth drivers. By the time we ended financial year 2022, we made GBP 10 million in revenue from just over 3,000 retailers buying these data products. By making these products available to all of our customers as part of their Auto Trader subscription, revenue from our data products, including those modules of Auto Trader Connect, has been almost GBP 50 million a year. We have shown that we can execute successful events in each financial year, with value to retailers delivered through additional products, as well as underpinning ARPA growth for the year. Given our pipeline of product opportunities, we expect this to continue for many years. Now to talk to this year's event product. Auto Trader's data science capabilities, technology platform, and unique data present new opportunities to create AI-powered products.

We are already utilizing these capabilities across a range of products and services to benefit both buyers and sellers on our platform. The next step in this journey is the launch of CoDriver, a suite of AI-powered tools that will improve both the retailer and consumer experience. The first wave of CoDriver includes three components. The first is smart image management, which categorizes and reorders vehicle imagery based on consumer insights, in addition to identifying any missing imagery needed to improve the advert performance. The second, AI-generated descriptions, automatically writes the description for retailers, highlighting the features most important to consumers, reducing a task that took on average over 25 minutes for some retailers to virtually instant. Finally, key selling points that promote the vehicle's characteristics that buyers value the most.

We expect these products to significantly improve both the consumer and retailer experience on Auto Trader and have seen high engagement levels since launch, with over 300,000 vehicle descriptions generated and over 35 million consumer interactions with vehicle highlights. Retailers and their physical stores will continue to play a critical role in the car buying and retailing process for many years to come. Most consumers are not comfortable buying a car entirely online. They prefer to inspect, test drive, and gain support from people throughout the process. We believe this process can be improved by enabling more of the journey to be done online at a time convenient for the buyer. This benefits our customers as significant resources are allocated to managing inquiries and processes that do not ultimately result in a sale.

We are in a unique position to connect online journeys, which typically start on Auto Trader, into retailers' systems and processes through both our retailer portal and our API journeys. This is the strategy we have been pursuing with our Deal Builder product. Feedback on the product continues to be positive from both retailers and car buyers, with deals converting twice as effectively as a regular Auto Trader lead. Over half of all deals are submitted outside of traditional working hours. At the end of March 2025, we had increased Deal Builder customer numbers by 82% to 2,000, which made the product available on around 84,000 vehicles, an increase of over 100% on last year. Deals generated were three times higher at almost 50,000.

Over half of the customers at year-end were either paying for the product or had been onboarded on a try-before-you-buy basis, where they were expecting to roll up to paid after an initial offer period. Given this progress and our experience with previous products at Auto Trader, we've decided to accelerate the adoption of Deal Builder. This means we'll be making much, but not all, of the current Deal Builder functionality part of our core advertising proposition. We believe there are significant benefits to this approach. Firstly, we have been onboarding approximately 500 customers every six months. At this rate, it would take a number of years to make the functionality available to all of our customers and car buyers. By building it into our core offering, we'll be able to drastically accelerate customer adoption.

With significantly more vehicles having a version of Deal Builder, we will materially increase the number of deals being submitted on Auto Trader, accelerating the level of buyer engagement on-site. We are confident retailers value the product. While Deal Builder will no longer be monetized separately per transaction, we will be able to accelerate both its adoption and monetization, which we have a long history of successfully doing. This plays to the strengths of our subscription business. Future opportunities remain to monetize different elements of the transaction, such as finance and other ancillary products. Importantly, having this functionality on every advert on Auto Trader differentiates our proposition for both buyers and retailers. This has been no small undertaking in terms of engineering and integration work with retailer systems and processes.

Having covered previous event products, it is worth providing some context on the opportunities we have to drive performance of our customers' businesses as we look ahead. ARPA growth each year has been underpinned by well-executed events on the 1st of April and in-year product growth. We expect to continue this cycle with a range of products we believe will be valuable to retailers as the industry continues to evolve. Firstly, it has been some time since we have supported an event with advertising products. Retailers are always looking for ways to effectively promote their brands, their propositions, and their vehicles. While this is a more mature part of our business, there remain areas we have not fully developed and others where we are yet to begin work. This includes involving our packages, developing our pay-per-click products, improving our messaging capability, and the recently launched new car offers product.

Our second stream of products is those enabled through our artificial intelligence and data science capabilities. We recently launched CoDriver, a suite of AI-powered tools to help retailers create high-quality adverts more efficiently. There is significant scope for further AI-powered products to improve the buying and selling of cars in the years ahead, all built on our unique data. The evolution of our search experience is also being driven by our work on AI-enabled tools and will create more opportunities for retailers and better meet buyer needs. Our third product development area is our data and technology products. We have launched data products over the past three events and made them available through both our retailer portal and our Auto Trader Connect platform. The data we are able to provide to retailers is unique and most of it proprietary.

We have consistently improved this data set by acquiring key resources for vehicle taxonomy, integrating build-level data from manufacturers, and aggregating all of the interactions on our platform. More recently, we have directly sourced the granular vehicle data required to provide our own provenance or vehicle history checks. We have significant opportunities to both strengthen our existing data products, to service them more powerfully on Auto Trader, and to begin to automate their usage in combination with our AI tools. Finally, we have our digital retailing products. A baseline version of our Deal Builder product will be made available to all retailers as part of our event next year, but this is just the first step. There are further opportunities within digital retailing that will build upon this foundational Deal Builder functionality made available through packages.

We believe some of the biggest opportunities in the future will come from combining our Deal Builder product with the data and insight we have to better connect engaged buyers with retailers and to deliver a truly omnichannel buying experience. I'll now hand back to Nathan to summarize our outlook for 2026.

Nathan Coe
CEO, Auto Trader Group

Thank you, Catherine. Moving to the outlook for 2026, our April 2025 pricing and product event has gone well. Retailer revenue growth in the second half of last year was 5%, which was constrained by the acceleration in speed of sale. This has continued into the new financial year. However, we expect retailer revenue growth for FY 2026 to improve to 5%-7% for the following reasons. First is that speed of sale does have natural constraints, and the acceleration this year was largely driven by a fall in used car prices.

Used car prices in the second half of last year have steadily increased as retailers have sought more normalized margins. Secondly, our pricing and product event has delivered around 6% growth in retailer revenue. Assuming consistent retailer forecourts, the event should add GBP 90-100 to the price lever within ARPA and GBP 70- GBP80 to the product lever. We have responded to market dynamics with offers to stimulate stock and to support retailer margins with our provenance products. In the second half of FY 2025, the stock lever was GBP -54. In April 2025, it was GBP -42. We expect stock to continue to improve throughout the year but still be marginally down for full year FY 2026. However, we expect that any marginal decline in the stock lever should be offset by some growth in the product lever from additional provenance products.

Due to the comparative periods, we expect growth to be stronger in the second half, which we expect will benefit the start of FY 2027. We expect broadly consistent revenues in consumer services and manufacturer agency, which account for 9% of group revenue. Autorama losses are expected to reduce in line with current market expectations. We expect to maintain the current levels of Auto Trader operating profit margins, whilst group operating profit margins will increase as a result of reduced Autorama losses. That concludes the presentation, and we will now move to questions and answers with analysts in the room. Great. Start that from here. Market work on my back.

Thanks. Morning all. It is Andrew here from Barclays. I guess I have got a couple about the, to clarify about the April 2026 pricing event, which I appreciate is some way off, but now feels quite important.

I guess if we're still in the same environment with kind of accelerated stock turn, at what point do you start to get more aggressive on pricing or kind of introduce some limit on how much dealers can spin through inventory through their slots to kind of align the value you're giving with how much dealers are paying you? I guess as a follow-up to that, should we be thinking a product that's getting bundled in as part of the 2026 event is just Deal Builder, or are there going to be other things like CoDriver or something else that go with it? I guess as part of that, just to clarify on Deal Builder, everyone's going to get it as part of this event, including the big dealers. Is that now kind of doable from a technology perspective?

Have I just kind of understood that correctly in terms of how it's going to work? Thanks.

Do you want to take the first bit on the event? Yeah. Catherine, that's the big customers. Yep. I think, I mean, obviously, like you said, the event in April 2026 is a way ahead. When we look at those events, we do factor everything in, so the profitability and health of our retailers, things like stock turn as well, and the strength of the product that we've got in that. Would we consider a higher price increase if stock turn remains fast, or look at limits to the number of changes people can make? I think all those things are in the realm of consideration. What we're not thinking about, just to be really clear, is changing our business model wholesale. It's worked for many, many years.

You will have good times and bad times, and it does not really matter which model you choose. We have looked at all the models. We know a lot of our peers around the world, and all of them have puts and takes. Certainly, the best time to change your business model is not when it is not at its very best because you do miss the return to more normal times. One thing I would say that is relevant to the event that we have had this year and is something that we will consider this year, it has been a little bit unusual this year because stock turn has been fast. Ordinarily, that would be quite good for retailers' profitability. Because of that decrease in prices, we have almost had the worst of both worlds in one sense.

There has been pressure on retailer profitability because of the fall in prices, and you have also had stock turn, which means you have got to work, do a lot more work for revenue. We would be hoping that retailer health is better, and it is definitely better now than it was during last year, even though stock turn is kind of more or less the same. As we think about the event, there is only so much our retailers, so much operational change our retailers can absorb. Will it be Deal Builder plus something else, some other large product? No, very, very unlikely. I think just to implement the changes around that we are looking to do with Deal Builder will be a big change, and I suspect that we would only waste the opportunity with another big product.

As Catherine said, we've kind of got a very long pipeline, and the last thing you want to do is kind of throw those all in because what you end up seeing is engagement ends up being more limited. The value they get is more limited, and therefore the effectiveness of the monetization is a little more limited too.

Catherine Faiers
COO, Auto Trader Group

On the final question and Deal Builder and what does all retailers really mean, we're in the process of defining exactly what the baseline version of Deal Builder is that we make available to everyone, but it's likely to include many of the components but not all of the components we currently have live. Part of that will be driven by our ability to onboard and scale rapidly with retailers.

Finance is a great example where we might include an estimate or finance intent at an earlier part of the journey rather than the full integration because there are different layers of that product, and there are different ways we might still think about monetizing that in the future. We will define the baseline such that all retailers is the ambition and is a deliverable ambition within the time period.

Will Packer
Managing Director and Head of European Media and Internet Equity, BNP Paribas Exane

Hi, it's Will Packer from BNP Paribas Exane. Three questions, please. Firstly, on the FY 2026 stock ARPA guidance, could you give us a bit of color on your assumptions around the take-up of the stock offer? There has been a nice rebound in stock reflecting dealers taking on that stock free of charge. What are you assuming is retained, and how does that compare to history of previous stock offers?

Secondly, could you articulate a bit further on the medium-term Deal Builder monetization plans? You have been very clear, April 2026 pricing event, Deal Builder's bundled, some iteration of it. How do we think of it as kind of eye control too, whereby it is going to be blocks which go to everybody, or could there be a scenario where, for example, if you take finance products, that could be still transacted on a standalone basis, etc.? Just a bit more, I realize it is early stage, but a bit more color there would be helpful. Then X Auto Trader, both H2 2025 and the guidance ahead are a bit underwhelming, display ads, Autorama. Could you just go into a bit more detail as to what has changed there and how we should think about that business reaccelerating? What is the timeframe for that? Thank you.

Jamie Warner
CFO, Auto Trader Group

Yeah, sure. I will go first.

Catherine will do second, and then I'll come back for the third. Yeah, we have the stock offer running at the moment that was switched on near the beginning of this financial year, or maybe in the middle of March. It is going to convert in the beginning of June, so pretty close to that conversion event. It is slightly different to offers that we have run historically. These are more sort of pre-COVID offers. We used to often run them where we switched on pre-Christmas, and there was a conversion to half price and full price. The historic conversion rate used to be from the offer period going on to what converted to paid was about 25% of the opportunity. The assumption that we have made is this should convert in line with that. That is what goes into the guidance.

Obviously, we said you can see the kind of stock lever pressure in the second half of last year. We have given you the April number of -42%. That is likely to continue into May. We do think the full year guide will be better for that, and the boost conversion should move us better than -42%. I do not think we think it will get us to break even or positive, but certainly some improvement. It is an area we do not have huge amounts of visibility on, but there is a huge amount of focus to continue to increase listings over the balance of the year, and that is why it is just a small negative expected.

Catherine Faiers
COO, Auto Trader Group

I think the eye control comparison for Deal Builder is a helpful one.

We see the baseline version of Deal Builder that we will define for this year as very much step one on a series of product steps and journeys that we plan to go on in the coming years. Finance is an interesting one where there are clearly layers that you can go into and how far you take the consumer and how deep you go with the integrations with the lenders. That is an obvious one where there will be, I think, a number of stages and waves. It absolutely is an area where through both the lender opportunity and the retailer opportunity, there are opportunities to monetize that differently in the future. In terms of the core product functionality, we still have not launched the appointments module.

We've still got some integration work to do with the big lenders to deliver on some of that finance opportunity, and there's still work to be done to better connect the different components of the journey and to encourage consumers back into the journey once they've started a Deal Builder opportunity. There's also, we alluded to it in the presentation, we haven't started really bringing together some of the Deal Builder thinking with some of our data thinking in terms of how we manifest that in the products. We know that for many of our retailer sales that we influence, they don't today see a hard lead, an email, or a phone call, but we know a lot about that buyer and the buyer interaction engagement that we're seeing on Auto Trader.

There's a better job we can do with serving up insights as deals to those retailers to add more value into how they're thinking about stock management, pricing, and other decisions. Very much step one, wave one of a series of product launches and iterations that will follow on Deal Builder.

Jamie Warner
CFO, Auto Trader Group

Just coming back on the revenue lines outside of retailer, the biggest being consumer services, manufacturing agency, and Autorama. I think in consumer services and manufacturing agency, there isn't huge amounts of engineering resource, huge amounts of focus, and I'll go into a bit of detail around the kind of second half performance. Consumer private ads, the price of the ad is linked to the price of the vehicle, and we've seen a bit of price softening. A slight mix of lower value vehicles, which hits yield.

There's a little bit of volume coming off as well, and it is quite, it is a competitive space. It's probably an area that we are looking at, a bit of a competitive space from the likes of Motorway, WeBuyAnyCar, trying to make sure that we're not losing share there. It may be something we do on marketing from that perspective. I think we don't want to overpromise that private listings are, they've been on a very good run. We're doing significantly more than we were probably the first seven, eight years of listed history. I think if there's a reason to be stable, which is the guidance, we're relatively happy.

The manufacturing agency line, as we sort of said in the presentation, we kind of made a decision to give up a little bit of platform revenue where we power, if you go to certain OEM websites, we power what we call a used vehicle locator, which consolidates franchise stock on that manufacturer website in exchange for the kind of VIN-level build data, which is hugely valuable for driving taxonomy, valuation, vehicle metrics. That was the kind of step down. The rest of the bulk of that revenue line is still display ads. It is not ever a revenue line that we feel is particularly high quality. Again, not a huge amount of focus, not a huge amount or any engineering effort going into it. Having it reasonably stable feels like the right guide.

There is new car manufacturer advertising that obviously grew, showed a little bit of growth last financial year. I think it's fair to say we still got to find the right product for those manufacturers. We still got seven of them advertising. There's about 1,200 cars, but it is around the kind of quality of the product, the value story. We're still working through that. I don't think we want to overpromise that that's suddenly going to be something significant. Autorama, I think, is an area where there is more focus. I think we've managed to reduce the losses this year. I think in line with expectations is getting pretty close to break even for this next year. We said we're not looking to reduce the cost base, so that's growth in volume, growth in commission and ancillary revenue.

There is much greater integration with the Auto Trader website, and we have seen it does come in sort of batches. It's certain deals, but where there is an offer that's made available, we are moving that volume, leveraging the Auto Trader platform. It comes through in kind of batches again. I don't think we want to overpromise that it's suddenly going to inflect, but there are signs that actually having these deals can influence new car sales on the platform. That's the area where I know the vehicle, the balance sheet is reducing consensus, but that just washes through. The actual revenue growth that people should care about is going to grow next year. I'm pretty confident.

Will Packer
Managing Director and Head of European Media and Internet Equity, BNP Paribas Exane

Thanks for the detailed color.

To synthesizing the commentary on the April 2026 pricing event, is it fair to say that all three levers are looking better placed than the last or in the preceding 18 months? Is that a fair comment?

Jamie Warner
CFO, Auto Trader Group

You mean for influencing fiscal 2027?

Will Packer
Managing Director and Head of European Media and Internet Equity, BNP Paribas Exane

Yes.

Nathan Coe
CEO, Auto Trader Group

Yeah. I think if you think about how the guide is, five to seven, we are doing five in the second half, and we are saying we have entered this financial year with not a lot of change. The first half would not be unreasonable to think maybe the first half of this year looks a lot like the second half of last year, but to hit five to seven, then your second half has got to be closer to seven.

That is where hopefully we are looking to carry a better run rate into fiscal 2027 with a good event and hopefully see us growing quicker than what we have guided to for this year. Thank you.

Should we just keep working our way along the front and then work our way back? Sure, Kelly, if we can have your labor. Thank you, everyone. A couple from me, if I can. First of all, you have had advertising, you have had data, you have now got digital retailing. Is there sort of a fourth area on the horizon, or should we be thinking about you guys going just deeper within these existing sort of areas? I guess what I am getting at here is particularly, can you do more with non-dealer customers?

If you can, how do you navigate some of the sort of conflicts of interest that might exist with dealer customers in those areas as well? Secondly, I just want to pick up on what you said when you were talking about the M&A line there, Jamie. That VIN data that you have gained access to by dropping some of the sacrificing some of those platform revenues, is that the data which is allowing you to do your own vehicle checks? Do you own this now? Is it something that you need to maintain a feed from the OEMs? How does that work in a little bit more detail if that's okay? Two more as well, if I can. Sorry. Can you give us an idea of where retailer gross margins are relative to history?

I've usually thought of it in a sort of an 8%-12% range and maybe from, but just a guess really, we're probably towards the lower end of that at the moment. What do you think is going on there? And then just finally on Autorama, now that new private sales are in growth, it's no longer just going into the fleet channel. Are you starting to think about maybe taking some of those transactions off balance sheets and work on a purely commission basis as well? Thank you.

Jamie Warner
CFO, Auto Trader Group

Can they take the first two? Yeah, Catherine can take the margin and Autorama.

Nathan Coe
CEO, Auto Trader Group

So it's kind of two questions within your very first question. So you have got to a new record on number of questions.

Catherine Faiers
COO, Auto Trader Group

Just to be really clear, the products that we're having folded Deal Builder and digital retailing into what we do in the core because we think it's a better way of monetizing, a better way of getting adoption. We're left with four clear streams of product development, any one of which, to be honest, we feel like you could have confidence that you'd be able to do a good few years of events. We used to just do advertising products, so we never had any of these other areas. The four areas, one is advertising, one is Co-Driver and AI, one is the data products that help kind of the data-driven retailing that Catherine talked about, and now you've got digital retailing.

Digital retailing is a bit of a funny one in a way because, as Catherine said, there's a number of ways to iterate that product, but a bit unlike eye control, it's not switch on and all the value is there. Over time, we can continue to add more and more people doing more and more deals, which saves more and more money in retailers. It will kind of accumulate value as time goes on. That feels pretty good, and there's plenty to do in there. We've got more ideas, and we do people to do them, and retailers haven't necessarily got the ability to absorb those all at once. The second bit of that question is, what about non-retailer customers? That is something that we think about quite a lot. It's also something that we explore. Autorama is one of those examples.

We've talked a little bit around that. We are working OEMs are kind of, we're never going to stray too far from our core because we tend to find that returns on capital and success both seem to diminish the further you wade from your core. We are pretty core-focused people, but manufacturers are a really obvious one where there is a lot of them starting to sell more direct than they used to and starting to definitely focus a lot more on sales as opposed to brand marketing, and we're quite good for those areas. I wouldn't say we've got the silver bullet on that yet. Jamie kind of alluded to it, but we have got quite a few bets in there. We've got new car stock on the platform, which is doing very well with retailers.

We've got new car stock with OEMs that we're still a little bit don't feel like we've got it quite right, and we've got leasing deals through Autorama. We are trying to be focused on the areas outside of retailer, and they're the main areas. I think, as Catherine mentioned, it's obviously a topical conversation, but automotive finance is big. The commission pool there would be as big as what our core used car advertising market is. It is another obvious one where it feels like we can play some productive role in helping solve some of the issues the regulators see. It is fair to say unlocking the integration with lenders, it's not the fastest of things to do. On the data, it's not as linked. The VIN data is less linked to our vehicle check, although it's kind of linked in there.

It allows us to get the exact specification on a vehicle. It actually goes much, much deeper than that. What the VIN data allows us to do is drive our search much better than any other person can drive their search, and that includes valuations as well because we know exactly what was on the car when it was built. Now, we do not own that data. That data is very much owned by the OEM, but it is not that easy to get the data because OEMs are reasonably protective about that. They do it with us because they see a direct influence on residual values and all those sorts of things that matter. They do not want spec misdescribed by all their retailers. Kind of the process of it and building it into our taxonomy, that taxonomy is proprietary.

It is just one of many things that we draw into it.

Jamie Warner
CFO, Auto Trader Group

Sorry, just two things I just had to Nathan's answer. Just on the finance, it still is very much working with retailer customers, trying to help them sell their own finance, which is the current Deal Builder execution. You asked about the kind of tension point. We want to make it a seamless online experience on Auto Trader that leverages a really good forecourt experience because the role that they would have been doing at the forecourt has been better done online. Just to clarify that one.

Catherine Faiers
COO, Auto Trader Group

On retailers, and I think you asked specifically around gross margin rather than net margin question, I think there have been a few cyclical reasons over the last 6 months-12 months why gross margins have probably been at the softer end of the spectrum in recent years.

The first one that we touched on in the presentation was the gap between retail and trade margins, and we have seen a period over the recent months where that gap has narrowed slightly as we have seen trade prices stabilize and appreciate slightly more strongly than we have on the retail side. Retailers have still been focusing on pushing that speed of sale because of holding costs, supply side, and other pressures. It does mean that we have seen a slight narrowing. Now, that is typically there are fluctuations in that over time, and we have seen windows where it has traded back and been very strong. We are expecting that to be a relatively short-term structural pressure. Trade and retail do typically trend back in line with each other.

The other two smaller trends that have been having an impact was finance commission rates or levels have not reset post the 25th of October last year when we saw the outcome of the court cases. We have seen a slight dip in finance penetration on used cars. Typically, we think it has been more driven by movements in APRs and the changes we have seen in interest rates over the last couple of years rather than anything structural. Finance penetration rates have actually been trending up again very slightly in the last few months, but that over the last 12 months or so has been overall used car finance penetration has been a bit softer because of interest rates, so that will have impacted gross margins.

Finally, around ancillary revenue streams, some of the FDA rulings around gap insurance and some of those other products, some of those for some cohorts, some segments of our customer base were more important revenue lines that have either compressed or for some have disappeared. Those three, pricing being the main one, but the other two have definitely had an impact as well.

Jamie Warner
CFO, Auto Trader Group

Lastly, just on the balance sheet. The balance sheet has always historically been predominantly bands, and obviously, I think where we believe the growth will come from is more in car leveraging the Auto Trader platform. I think, certainly, I am not saying that we are not doing any of the balance sheet, but I just think it should be a lower share, and there should be less reliance on it.

Catherine Faiers
COO, Auto Trader Group

There is still a long-term plan that eventually we want to discontinue it altogether because it is not a core part of our business proposition.

Alastair Reid
Media Equity Research Analyst, Investec

Thanks very much, Alastair Reid from Investec. Maybe I will balance it out and just ask one. You mentioned a couple of areas that you mentioned with the VIN data that is helping you have better search than others. I think you mentioned about Deal Builder being available to everyone on all vehicles, that that helped differentiate you further. Do you see any changing competitive threats or dynamics in the market that are making you think about that and do things to reinforce your position?

Nathan Coe
CEO, Auto Trader Group

You can go ahead.

Catherine Faiers
COO, Auto Trader Group

I think the competitive landscape from our, I guess, what we would call our marketplace peers, I do not think we have seen any real change, certainly not in our relative position or in any of the actions that they have taken that would make us do anything different. When we think about some of the bigger structural trends, whether that is what Google might do with their vehicle listing products or Amazon in the U.S. or where some of the generative AI apps and things might take us, I think we always come back to the foundations that we have in the areas of differentiation, and they are all around our brand and our relationship with consumers and how we are investing, maintaining, deepening our relationships with consumers. They come down to our technology and data.

The foundations of our marketplace, having more buyers, having more retailers on the other side, means that we just see millions more observations than anyone else will see. The more we can keep those foundations really, really strong, the more data observations we get, which means whether it is our data products that we serve up through Auto Trader Connect and Portal or whether it is our AI-powered products, they will become more powerful. The depth with which we have gone to within our vertical, combined with our brand as how most people still find us, discover us, those two areas of strategic advantage, I think, mean regardless of what happens to how and where consumers navigate themselves into the buying journey, we will have a really important role to play.

I think it's more we feel even more that we should double down on the areas that make us really different. There's no one threat or no one competitor that we sit there and think, "Oh, we should be worrying about them more or focusing on something different as a result."

Nathan Coe
CEO, Auto Trader Group

The only thing I might add quickly, and it might be self-evident, but some of the areas, certainly within our traditional marketplace competitors, that's true. We do get a question occasionally from investors around, "What about ChatGPT? What about AI? What about Amazon?" Actually, the best answer to any player that is looking to globally scale, but at a relatively shallow level, is to go super deep in your own vertical with data so that you can always provide that much, much richer experience.

As it relates to AI, it is all about the data that Catherine spoke about. I think it is true of traditional competitors, but also some of the bigger questions that we get around how some of these technologies evolve. We are very much adopting those technologies, but doing that with really, really deep data that just is very, very hard to get. As Catherine said, the vast majority of it is proprietary.

Come to Laura and Karen.

Laura Simpson
VP and Equity Research Analyst, JPMorgan

Thank you. Morning. It is Laura Simpson from J.P. Morgan. I just wanted to come back mostly to the outlook and the guidance. Stock leave is going to be marginally down, but you have said you would expect to sort of pick that up with prominence packages. I just wanted to really understand that dynamic. I suppose my thinking has been with speed of sale quite high.

There was maybe less of a need for prominence or pay-up from a dealer perspective. Just to try and understand that dynamic this year and how to think about it. In terms of the retailer outlook, you've guided for flat this year, which I think is encouraging. Is there any assumption on mix effect on the ARPA this year? Going forward, the narrative used to be that you were guiding for that forecourt number to be down in years to come because of consolidation closures. Obviously, we have a lot more dealers post-pandemic. Has that changed in terms of sort of the top-line algorithm in years to come? Is it more sort of flat retailer numbers now, similar change on ARPA? Just to talk through those dynamics. Thank you.

Jamie Warner
CFO, Auto Trader Group

Yeah. I can cover all of those off.

I mean, I think, I mean, the stock and prominence, like we're sort of saying, it's like a small negative on stock and a small positive on prominence. They're not actually directly related. It's more just the quantum being relatively similar. I think you are absolutely right that, and we've seen this through the last financial year, that when speed of sale is fast, there isn't as much need for prominence products. Along the lines of being a bit more proactive around stock, we're also being a bit more proactive around prominence because we do still believe that prominence products can still drive better margin improvement even when speed of sale is fast. There is value in the product set regardless of the market dynamics. Probably quite customer-specific.

That is why it is only sort of steered to be at the smaller end of contribution where historically it has always sort of been maybe a 1%-2% contributor to that product lever. Hopefully, again, to Will's question around progress through the year, we are exiting in a better position even if speed of sale remains relatively fast. I think the retailer guide is flat for this year and is really dictated by what we are seeing right now. The retailer number is very stable. We have gone through the pricing event, very low levels of elasticity. Customer numbers feel good, certainly by historic standards. The mix, I do not foresee radically changing through the year. You never quite know, but I think the steer with the guide is flat and consistent. I think long-term, sort of notoriously, got this wrong.

I think I would still say that the market, I would expect it to at a very slow rate consolidate if you're looking over a five and ten-year period. It certainly was prior to the pandemic. I think if you're modeling out 2027, 2028, 2029, I wouldn't have loads of retailer decline, but 0.5% is probably what I would be my best estimate. Acknowledging I'm often wrong.

Karen Donnelly
Managing Director, Berenberg

Yeah. Thanks. It's Karen Donnelly from Berenberg. Three from me. First one, I guess, just clearly the Deal Builder monetization approach is changing. I guess just going back to the investor there a few years back, can you clarify that you think the absolute revenue opportunity hasn't changed?

I guess if we look at user experience and user journey on site on probably a three- to five-year view, how dramatically different do you think it will be versus today, i.e., will every, I guess, advert automatically default to a Deal Builder type user journey, or will we still have the, let's say, traditional approach we have today? Thirdly, I guess, just in terms of stock continuing to be a headwind, clearly turnover is quite quick at the moment, but how much of it do you think is your average retailers becoming more efficient at determining how many slots they need, obviously using products like your own data inventory products? In fact, is there less fat in terms of what slots are required going forward as dealers become more efficient? Thanks.

Nathan Coe
CEO, Auto Trader Group

I'll take the first one. Yeah.

I mean, it's an impossible question in some ways because it's all about forecasting and who actually knows. If you take the real fundamentals of your question, what we talked about is we felt as though we could increase the take rate essentially on cars that go through Deal Builder because we'd save time, be more efficient for retailers. That was basically then multiplied by some penetration rate, multiplied by the number of retailers on the product times the percentage of their transactions that go through Auto Trader. We are going to make that faster, much, much quicker than what we would have otherwise done. We're going to have most of our retailers, the percentage of their transactions, I imagine, will probably hover around where it is.

It does depend on how light the Deal Builder product that we launch is and how we define a deal. For all intents and purposes, let's say that does not really change. Over time, we can grow that. What is different, obviously, is the multiplying by we talked about the 120 or the direct updates. It was quite a neat way of being able to calculate those economics. The reality is they will need to surface through two things. One might be through future events because we will just be adding a lot more value. It is not just talking about audience increasing. We will be talking about deals increasing. As Catherine mentioned, it is just a base product that we are talking about. Things like finance, part exchange, there are lots of opportunities within that that might provide opportunities for further event products within that digital retailing stream.

They may even have some standalone element to them. To answer your question really directly, I have no reason to believe that the monetization opportunity is any different at all. The way that we have to go about it or the way that we are choosing to go about it will be different. If anything, the near-term answer to your question is the monetization is bigger than what we originally were planning for.

Catherine Faiers
COO, Auto Trader Group

In terms of the user experience on Auto Trader and how the car buying journey feels for consumers, I think the two biggest changes in consumer experience over the coming years will firstly be around our search experience and how we make search more intelligent.

Back to the data question, clearly our ability to add filters, enable consumers, and help them refine their search in quite a structured way today is very powerful because of all the data we have. In the future, there is lots more we can do to make the search experience much more intelligent for consumers. When we see you interacting with Auto Trader, we can get much smarter in how we then serve you other vehicles, other content. You have sent us some signals about what you are interested in, what you want to do. We think how we navigate consumers through the vast choice that we have on Auto Trader, we can make more powerful. That is a big strand of our search evolution work and making search more intelligent for buyers.

The second big part around Deal Builder is really all about how we better connect buyers and sellers in the journey. Today, we deliver 15 million-odd leads a year, and now increasingly, we're delivering more and more of those leads as highly qualified deals that we know convert much, much better for retailers, save them time, to get them out of hours. There are all sorts of reasons why a retailer would much rather have a deal than a lead. Today, still, of the leads that we deliver, they still typically only account for about a third of the sales that we influence as Auto Trader. Many consumers will walk into the retailer forecourt having spent minutes, hours on Auto Trader finding their car.

A lot of what we think we can do through what we know about the buyer and the behavior is better connect earlier in the journey the buyer with the retailer to help them get to a point where they're having more efficient online and more efficient offline interactions to connect the journey more powerfully. The product page and the experience that a consumer is having on Auto Trader will evolve quite significantly in the coming years, firstly to meet that baseline Deal Builder journey so that that is the buying journey on Auto Trader, and then in time to build in whether it's appointments, whether it's more of the insight that we know about the buyer or about the retailer into the journey as well.

Both intelligent search and how we navigate search and then a more connected buying journey through the product page, I think there will be lots of evolution there in the coming years.

Karen Donnelly
Managing Director, Berenberg

The last one just on the stock.

Jamie Warner
CFO, Auto Trader Group

Headwind. I think it is a great question. I do think there will be, there is definitely some work in the customer base of the products that we have made available is naturally helping our customers sell cars quicker. Obviously, you have got higher finance costs that also incentivize them to do so. I think it is a contributor. I still think the market is a big part of it. I only say that through when you triangulate kind of demand with pricing, with speed of sale, you know what I mean? They all sort of move in a direction that you can understand why it is accelerated.

If demand had really softened and speed of sale was still quick, I'd say I'd lean more on that factor, the kind of efficiency. The fact that the three things kind of triangulate, I'm sure what you say, there is something in it. I still think there's a big chunk of the market in there as well.

Nathan Coe
CEO, Auto Trader Group

I'd like to make this last one. We've got Jess.

Jessica Pok
Equity Research Analyst, Peel Hunt

Hi, Jessica Pok from Peel Hunt, hopefully two quick ones. The first is with Deal Builder going into the core packages. Are you putting some incremental marketing behind that? The second one is just on the AI functionality you've rolled out so far has been into the core packages. Is there potential for additional products to be built around AI, which you could charge separately in the future?

Catherine Faiers
COO, Auto Trader Group

Do you want me to take both of those? Yeah.

On marketing, I do not think we will spend, I do not think we will look to increase the relative share of marketing spend as a percentage of revenue. I think we will increasingly look to make the Deal Builder journey more prominent on the platform. To be honest, the biggest marketing lever we have is the 10-11 million unique users we get each month navigating, finding their way to mostly our app these days. How we choose to use that app real estate to help consumers navigate through the Deal Builder journey is probably the most powerful marketing we can do. That said, we may well supplement and increment with some more traditional marketing investment around that, but we do not expect that to be on top of our typical marketing budget that we allocate.

In terms of AI and product evolution and whether there might be products we monetize standalone, I think back to the product conversation, we talked about four different areas where we have product streams, if you like, that we're running with and where we're bringing and evolving products to market. I think within those four streams across advertising, data or Auto Trader Connect, AI, Co-Driver, and then Deal Builder, there are components within each that we could look to think about targeting a particular segment of the customer base and whether it's a trial or proof of concept or whether it's actually monetizing early to really validate the value proposition to prove that we can scale the product.

That's definitely something we've done in the past and is definitely something we'll look to do again in the future where we feel like the product that we're trying to bring to market would benefit from that extra layer of either validation or testing or proof of the value proposition.

Nathan Coe
CEO, Auto Trader Group

Great. Okay. Thank you, everyone. That brings us to the end of the presentation. Thank you for all those that joined us online as well.

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