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Earnings Call: Q4 2014

Feb 5, 2015

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

All right. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to this annual results conference. Really a pleasure to be with you today, and really a pleasure to report on, quite frankly, what has been, in many ways, a very busy year for us. A very unusual year, but also a very remarkable year, and we feel we've made a fair amount of progress in the last 12 months. I'll give you a quick overview of our results. Luke, who is our EVP, Head of Product Strategy, will cover the growth platforms in more details. Marc will take you through our financials. Finally, Briggs will cover the pipeline progression. Then, of course, we'll go to the Q&A. 2014 was really a year when we focused on implementing our strategy, and we believe we did make quite some progress in returning to growth.

In particular, our growth platforms delivered collectively a 15% growth rate, and they now represent about 53% of our total sales. Quite remarkable. As you can see here, they all grew except Japan. We'll cover Japan a little bit later. As you probably know, we're faced with price reductions, but also the impact of generics in the oncology market was much more important than expected because the dynamics in the generic market have changed in Japan. Finally, we had a recall in the last quarter for NEXIUM. Almost the most exciting part is the enormous progress we made rebuilding our pipeline and now turning this into a reality. A year ago, we told you, here is what we're doing with our pipeline, but really, we didn't have much reality to this pipeline yet. Now we are turning this into approvals.

We got approval for Duaklir, which we acquired recently. We filed lesinurad. We got good data for mavrilimumab. We filed saxagliptin/dapagliflozin, an important combination for diabetes franchise. Really important results with PEGASUS and Brilinta. We got approval for LYNPARZA in the U.S. and Europe, and we are now in the process of launching this product. Very good success in the U.S. so far. Very early days, so we cannot conclude and should not conclude too quickly, but really very good response so far. We filed IRESSA, and also we got approval for MOVANTIK. Finally, what is not listed here is we also got information that we got the scheduling for MOVANTIK in the U.S., so we are ready to launch very soon. I think the key message that I want to leave you with here is that we actually delivered our guidance for the year.

I think it's really something that I would like to maybe ask you to remember, is that we try to deliver what we said we were going to do. Essentially, we guided up at the end of Q3 for the full year, and we delivered exactly what we said we were going to deliver. In fact, on the core EPS front, a little bit better, but broadly speaking, you could say very much on track. When we guided on 2014, of course, we knew the Q3 year-to-date pictures, and by definition, people could have expected what Q4 was going to look like. The important point is we got exactly where we said we would get. Another message on this slide is the growth rate in China. It hasn't stopped. We have consistent quarter after quarter growth rate north of 20%.

Still, we experienced very strong growth throughout the whole year. We are the number two in China, as you know. We have the fastest or one of the fastest growth rate there, and China is now our second-largest national market on a global basis. Very exciting development there, but also very good results in other markets in the emerging market region. Let me start with the approvals. We got six NDAs or BLA approvals in 2014. It's a record for us as a company historically, but it's also a pretty strong performance from an industry viewpoint. Some of them products of valuable importance to our business long term, but many of them are really quite critical to our core franchises.

We also got additional approvals with Duaklir and the Bydureon Pen. Luke will tell you more about the Bydureon dual-chamber pen in a minute, but I can say that so far, we're doing quite well with it in the U.S. Importantly, over the next couple of years, and Briggs will come back to this, we are on track to deliver seven to eight potential NDA submissions. Quite a number of them in 2015, but another number in 2016, and about half of those are in oncology. Let me stop a minute on this slide and attract your attention to it.

When we actually set up the organization two years ago, we actually tried to come up with a model that would increase accountability, would increase empowerment and autonomy, and enable people to be more entrepreneurial and move faster. As a result, we came up with a model that has two biotech companies. One is called MedImmune, which is really focusing on biologics and immunotherapy, and the other one is called AstraZeneca IMED, which is really focusing on small molecules. Those two biotechs have a clear role, which is to discover and early develop products and bring them to a point in time when we can transition them to the late-stage organization. Sometimes phase I, typically it's at the end of phase II, and of course, we have some flexibility there, especially in oncology, to move into late-stage development earlier.

Fundamentally, we have two biotechs, and the transition products to our late-stage organization, called AstraZeneca. We always had in mind that we may actually decide to create value in a different manner, to create value with partners, not necessarily by ourselves. What has happened is we believe our productivity in R&D and research and early development has really improved so rapidly that we get to a point today where we can't do everything ourselves. What we've decided to do is to typically develop and commercialize ourselves the products that belong to our core therapy areas, and then partner, and create values for partnerships for other products that we will not develop ourselves. It's an important aspect to consider because one option for us, of course, was to completely cut out research in areas that we believe are not necessarily our core franchises.

We thought we have very strong science, and we need to find a way to bring this science to patients and create value for the company out of it. The BACE inhibitor that we partnered with Lilly last year is a very good example of this. This is a great product. Whether it works or not, we still don't know, of course, but potentially it could really make a difference to the treatment of Alzheimer's. We found a great partner who understands Alzheimer's disease far better than we would. They are taking the lead developing it. We've got a great relationship and create long-term value and short-term value for the company. We have monoclonal antibodies in development for Pseudomonas infections, MRSA infections, adjunctive treatment, or prophylaxis. Those are agents which have received breakthrough designations by the FDA. Very great products, great science.

This is really not an area where we have strengths, and we don't have capabilities, and again, we don't have resources to do everything. Another example where we could potentially out-license or find partners to develop. An important dimension because essentially you got to keep in mind that if we were a biotech company, that's exactly what we would be doing. We would be looking for partners to develop some of our products. It's not because we are a large pharma that we can't operate as a small biotech. Some of the work we're going to do is going to be similar to what a biotech company would do. If I move to the return to growth agenda, I told you our growth platforms, they represent 53% of our sales. They grew 15% collectively in 2014.

You can see here we've moved from 41% to 53% in 2014. The challenge for us, of course, is that the non-growth platforms, in particular NEXIUM and Crestor, still represent a pretty substantial part of our business. Over the next couple of years, as you all know, we will lose them. Clearly, we have moved very nicely over the last two years in the first phase rebuilding our pipeline. We are getting into the next phase of our transformation, which is 2015, 2016, where our underlying business is growing fast, but of course, we have to deal with the patent expiries that create headwinds. You can see here that we've had several consecutive quarters of growth. Q4 actually grew 3%. That 2% reported is after reclassification of the excise fee, which Marc will talk briefly about a bit earlier.

I think importantly, I just wanted to attract your attention to one point is that the consensus didn't consider the excise fee in its totality by product. You have to keep in mind we accounted for, we paid actually, because the government, as you know, changed the methodology, and we ended up paying two quarters of excise fees in the last quarter. We accounted for two quarters of excise fees in Q4. The impact by product is roughly 4%. When you look at product by product and you compare sales to consensus, you got to remember consensus is not adjusted for those 4%. I'll stop here and hand over to Luke.

Luke Miels
EVP, Global Portfolio and Product Strategy, AstraZeneca

Thank you, Pascal. This transition represents an important point for the company. You can see here in this slide, the performance of the growth drivers, the growth platforms in 2014 was very consistent and demonstrated that we could compete and perform well in our chosen segments. In addition, with the progress of the pipeline in oncology and the launch of LYNPARZA, we're signaling here that oncology is the emerging sixth growth platform. In terms of Brilinta, I think it's fair to say it was a very good year for Brilinta. There were a number of events, both commercially but also in terms of the evidence base and the regulatory environment, which had the effect of increasing confidence around this product and how it could help patients. This translated into share gains.

You can see here on the left-hand side, the leading indicator for the hospital market in terms of units purchased. You can see here we've moved ahead of our competitor, and that continues the trend into 2015. On the right-hand side, a lagging indicator. You can see here the NBRX trends, again, is in favor of this product. If we look at discharge share in the U.S., and again, this is part of this halo effect and confidence around this product, we saw discharge share move up across all markets, with the exception of Germany. One thing I'd like to point out is that the discharge share in the U.S. is actually quite a bit lower than what we've seen in Europe. There is an opportunity there to further increase the usage of this product for patients.

On the right-hand side, you can see a number of market shares and uptake graphs here. Again, we have a good trajectory there across the business with this product. Also interestingly, right now in the U.S., around 20% of patients make it to 12 months. In Europe, that figure is higher, it's around 50%. Our view is that this flow of evidence should further encourage the usage of this product for longer terms. In terms of diabetes, broad performance here. Firstly, just starting at the bottom, ONGLYZA. We had historically directed resources away from ONGLYZA to focus on FARXIGA and the dual-chamber pen. I think to date, that has proven to be an effective decision. We've been able to essentially hold the business there. There was some decline in share over the year, but in RX towards the end of the year, we're actually stable.

For BYETTA, again, a good performance considering the level of focus. Bydureon, we launched the dual-chamber pen. FARXIGA I'll come back to Bydureon in the next slide. For FARXIGA, again, strong growth. This class is extremely attractive. It has a number of attributes. If we looked at switches, people are coming off insulin, as well as moving up from metformin, so a very diverse group of patients there. Despite what is a very competitive environment, we've been able to hold our share, again, we continue to do well with FARXIGA. The other dimension here, which is not necessarily visible to people, is outside of the U.S., we have a very dominant position here with FARXIGA, and you can see across markets which launched before the U.S., continued uptake there. Again, it's an encouraging trend. For Bydureon, we launched the dual-chamber pen.

We've covered this in Q3. You did see a very strong uptake and reception to this device. It's a device which is popular with patients, and you can see that we were able to grow our share in a market itself, which I think probably surprised some people in terms of how much it grew. On the right-hand side, you can see new prescriptions for the tray, which is the legacy configuration, and the new dual-chamber pen. What's interesting about this chart, you can see there's around a 40% split. If you break that down, 70% of the patients who are in the RX for the Bydureon Pen are actually new to the product. It's not purely just a switching out of patients who are on the old configuration to the new dual-chamber pen, which again, is encouraging.

In terms of Symbicort, we spent some time of this at Q3. We signaled to you that we would expect pressure in Q4 and early this year, particularly in the U.S. around pricing. I think that has come to pass. Again, we view this as a step change. We were aware this was coming. We have prepared for it. We're now in that process of moving forwards. For Europe, there are a number of analogs or mandatory price cuts. Part of our argument here and interest in this portfolio and this product in particular, of course, is the defensive nature of the devices. When we look at the volumes in Europe, we've been able to maintain our volume share there.

For emerging markets, again, this is a very attractive product and has a relatively low profile in terms of sales right now in emerging markets relative to Pulmicort. For emerging markets overall, firstly, with China, you can see here strong growth has continued. If we look at the MAT IMS share in China, essentially, we would double the market growth rate. Again, we feel very confident about our business in China. We often get asked, "Are you too reliant on China?" You can see here, this is the growth rate of emerging markets outside of China, ex factory. There's a nice trend there as we start to see the growth platforms have an increasing share of the business in emerging markets. In terms of Japan, ex factory, there was a negative number. If we look in market, we grew well ahead of the market.

The market overall itself did contract. We grew ahead of the market, both in the full year and also in the quarter. You can see their strong performance, particularly from NEXIUM, where we've taken share. We've been able to hold our place with Crestor despite the presence of some competitive dynamics there. Symbicort, again, we're able to hold our share quite comfortably. In terms of quarter one, that's the last quarter that we'll see the effect of the price drops earlier in this year. We believe we're well positioned for growth in Japan in 2015. In conclusion, we've also got some exciting news coming. We'll update you more fully on this in quarter one. Firstly, with LYNPARZA, we're preparing to launch in the U.S. There's the news today, of course, with Duaklir.

In Europe, we're now at advanced stages of launching this product, and we have a very exciting uptake so far in Europe with LYNPARZA, where we're already seeing this impact on patients. There was a large group of patients who were aware of their BRCA status and advanced disease who are waiting for this product, and we've seen a very rapid uptake, as the slide indicates here so far, and we'll give you some more color around this good news in quarter one. With that, I'll hand over to Marc.

Marc Dunoyer
CFO, AstraZeneca

Thank you, Luke, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm going to walk you through the financial performance and the financial priorities for 2014, a review of those, and then give some views about 2015. First of all, on 2014, as Pascal has mentioned, we have met our guidance for the year or upgraded guidance for the year. We have continued to invest behind our accelerating pipeline. We have also invested behind our growth platforms, especially in the last quarter of the year. I want to signal here that the investment behind those growth platforms in the fourth quarter of the year has peaked. We continue to redeploy across our profit and loss statement. We try to keep the largest possible flexibility on the balance sheet. We are trying to generate cash rapidly, and you will see some measure of this.

We also have taken a loan at the end of the year, which was also very oversubscribed. Let me turn to the explanation about the type of redeployment we do. If you look at the base year of 2012, we were spending about a third of our expenses on G&A, and you see now this ratio has reduced to a quarter to 24%. Most of the money is allocated to the sales, marketing, and medical expenses. I provide two examples of item which have been reduced. Predominantly, it's IT cost and also the facilities cost. If you look at the facilities cost, it's interesting to know that the R&D facilities costs have reduced in these two years by 30%. We try to reduce the cost of our footprint to be able to devote more money to the projects. I was talking about the cash generation.

This provides a view of our cash conversion cycle. We were at 69 days of sales, in 2012. We will finish the year 2014 at 45, which I think is a very good performance. We have provided some comparison to the industry. Obviously, we do not have the comparator for 2014, but you can see the progression, at least for AstraZeneca's metrics, from 69 days to 45 over the last two years. We are going to continue those efforts in cash generation. This is important for us to be able to fund our development. On the debt side, we have this credit rating with Moody's, A2, the BBB- with Standard & Poor's. As I was mentioning earlier, we took a bond in November at a rate of 0.875%. This bond was four times oversubscribed.

We finished the year with a net debt of $3.2 billion. It gives us a lot of financial flexibility. Comparison for Q4 2014 to Q4 2013. As you can see, the rate of increase on core R&D as well as core SG&A are important. On R&D towards supporting the pipeline, the growing pipeline, predominantly immuno-oncology, but also respiratory and the biologics, as well as our large program partner behind Brilinta. For the SG&A, this was predominantly the integration of BMS, the sort of mechanical impact of it, but also the launches of FARXIGA, BYDUREON Pen, as well as later in the year, LYNPARZA, and the preparation of MOVANTIK. We also had, in the latter part of the year, the integration of Almirall. All this points to a very opportunistic investment in Q4 2014.

As I said earlier on, we estimate that this investment has now peaked. Again, we have fully met our 2014 upgraded guidance. You can see on the right side of this slide, the ratios. Our gross profit was at 81%, core R&D at 19%, core SG&A at 39%, and we have also provided an indication about the core tax rate for both 2014 and 2013. You have an improvement of the core tax rate of about 4%. We met the guidance, did a little bit better at $428, and you have the decline of 8%. We had announced we had guided for a 10% decline in EPS. Just Pascal mentioned it earlier on, we have made a reclassification of the U.S. branded pharmaceutical fee in 2014. We did this over the Q4 of the year. You have $113 million.

This is for the impact of the second half of 2014. In terms of annualized impact, this represents about 2% on our U.S. brands. Obviously, it varies brand to brand, but it's about 2%. Pascal mentioned the 4%. If you look at the quarter impact, this is 4%, 2% on half year. This is the reclassification of the excise fee that the U.S. government is levying, and we used to treat it as an SG&A like the rest of the industry. We are now taking it as a sales deduction from the second half of 2013. A word about the guidance. It's probably hard to read. The little note at the bottom says we are assuming that the launch of NEXIUM generic is imminent, which is a very important assumption in defining our guidance for the year 2015.

As far as sales revenue, we plan the sales to decline by mid-single digit %. The core EPS will increase by low single digit %. We are also providing some sensitivity for the currency. They have obviously impacted many companies, including AstraZeneca. On the left, you have the average rate for 2014, as well as where they are on average for the month of January. On the right of this slide, we have provided a sensitivity analysis on both the sales and the operating profit for the major currencies. You will note that some of these impacts are negative and some of them are positive. Obviously, we have countries where we are more cost than revenues, and the opposite is also true. We continue to have a very busy year in business development.

On the respiratory front, we integrated first Almirall and did a deal with Synageva. We had the cardiovascular also, disposal of metreleptin. In oncology, you see there a variety of different transactions. We continue to focus our business development on the three core areas. This is the only areas where we are investing for business development. The deal that we announced this morning, we had acquired first the deal with Almirall, and this is in a way complementary to this Almirall transaction. We now obtain from Actavis the U.S. and Canada rights for the Almirall part of the portfolio, and also another product in the respiratory area called Daliresp, which is an oral PDE4 used in COPD as an add-on, in particular for patients who are refractory to ICS/LABA. This complements the acquisition we did with Almirall.

It makes us in possession of a global portfolio and also a very good DPI on the U.S. market. The consideration is $600 million, and there's also an additional $100 million payment, which contains quite a lot of different contractual obligations which had to be resolved, waivers and non-compete clause and all sort of agreements between Almirall, Actavis, and AstraZeneca. This has been resolved, and we were very happy to announce it this morning. Overall, it gives another focus for us on the respiratory area after a very good year on the respiratory platform with our products. With this, I'm going to pass the ball to Briggs.

Briggs Morrison
EVP, Global Medicines Development and Chief Medical Officer, AstraZeneca

Thanks very much, Marc. Good to see you all. Since we just met with you in November, I'll try not to repeat too much of what we talked about at the Investors Day, and I'll give you a top-line summary of 2014, and then highlight some of the things that you should look for as we go into 2015. Again, I think it was a very good year from an R&D point of view. I think I mentioned at the Investors Day that we have set for ourselves this aspiration of improving the lives of 200 million patients, and we understand that that requires individual healthcare professionals to sit down with patients, talk to them about their disease, and talk to them about treatment options, and eventually recommend to them an AstraZeneca product.

We understand it's our obligation to generate evidence, strong evidence, and the kind of evidence that healthcare professionals are going to need to have that conversation. We think 2014 has been a good year for us in terms of generating that kind of evidence. The outstanding performance Pascal referred to in terms of NDA approvals for new molecular entities, which we think is at the top of the charts for our industry. We've talked a lot about rebuilding the phase III pipeline. I think we've made good progress there in focusing our R&D spend on our core therapeutic areas. As I mentioned previously, about 90% of our spend now in 2015 will go into our three core therapeutic areas. This slide I showed you at Investors Day, there's a couple of updates since we met with you in November from a pipeline point of view.

The submissions both in the U.S. and E.U. for lesinurad, the submission in the U.S. for saxagliptin/dapagliflozin dose combination, the approval in both the U.S. and E.U. for LYNPARZA, and the approval for MOVANTIK in E.U. and the descheduling of [inaudible] in the U.S. We think some highlights of things that have happened since we saw you in November. Have 2 slides to go through each of our core therapeutic areas with 2 other advances that have happened since November. First, let's start with RIA. I think many of you probably saw the data we presented at ACR, 3 key molecules, sifalimumab, which is an antibody against interferon, the phase II data in lupus, which we had a positive trial, looked like a good molecule.

mavrilimumab, the phase II data, phase II-B data in rheumatoid arthritis, the MTX-IR population again hit the key endpoints and had a favorable safety profile, we think. The lesinurad data, the phase III gout data, which is the foundation of our submission to regulators around the world. The other program that has started since we met with you in November is a program that I don't think we've talked much about in an earlier stage of asthma. These are in GINA step 2 patients. In GINA step 2 patients, the standard of care is an ICS plus a reliever, essentially what patients get. There's a fair amount of data that suggests that patients are not particularly compliant with their ICS. As their asthma starts to worsen, they just use their short-acting beta-agonist, and they never really get the anti-inflammatory effect that they need.

This program, underlying it is the hypothesis that, in fact, if you gave them Symbicort as their reliever, they would actually get both the fast-acting beta-agonist and the anti-inflammatory. It builds on the SMART concept that we have in many countries around the world, the maintenance and reliever therapy that we have with Symbicort, which is enabled by the fact that formoterol is such a fast-acting beta-agonist. This program has just got underway since we met with you. Cardiovascular metabolic. Regulatory submissions for saxagliptin/dapagliflozin. We started now a program with FARXIGA in type 1 diabetes, with the hypothesis that you would potentially be able to decrease insulin dosages, maybe minimize hypoglycemia, get some of the weight loss and antihypertensive effects that you get with FARXIGA. That program is now underway.

We started the CV outcomes trial for Epanova in a targeted population of patients who have high triglycerides and low HDL. The PEGASUS trial, I'm sure many people in the room would like me to talk more about the data from the PEGASUS trial. You know I can't do that, but I do invite you to come to San Diego in March, where it will be presented at ACC, and you can then see the full data package of the PEGASUS trial. We do have many ongoing outcomes trials. This concept of continuing to generate new evidence on Brilinta, we'll probably have a CV outcomes trial reading out every year over the next 2 years. Some recent highlights of what's happened in oncology. We've talked about the LYNPARZA approval. The label is slightly different in E.U. than the U.S. E.U. is the maintenance indication.

In the U.S., it's the people who have failed three prior therapies. All four patients who have BRCA1 mutant ovarian cancer. We filed LYNPARZA in the U.S. and have a PDUFA date in the third quarter. Some other sort of key milestones of things that have completed as we've gone through the remainder of 2014. We've completed the enrollment in the trial that will support the AZD9291 filing, hopefully an approval, in the second quarter of this year. We've also completed the enrollment of the mesothelioma study with tremelimumab. This is a placebo-controlled trial. That trial is now fully enrolled. We've completed the enrollment in the triplet study in melanoma, a BRAF inhibitor plus MEK inhibitor plus PD-L1. The concept they are trying to ask whether we can combine immunotherapy with these small molecules. That program we've completed the enrollment.

To say a couple of things about ARCTIC and the ADJUVANT trial. The ARCTIC phase III trial, I want to be very clear, there are two arms to the trial. One arm of the trial is in patients who are PD-L1 positive, where essentially we're trying to confirm what we think will happen in ATLANTIC, patients get randomized to standard of care or monotherapy PD-L1. That part of the trial is open and recruiting. The second arm B of that trial, is in patients who are PD-L1 negative, that is a four-arm trial of tremi alone, 4736 alone, the combination, or standard of care. That arm has not started to enroll yet. We now have a clear view of our dosing strategy, that arm should open up very soon. I'm not going to say much more about that dosing strategy.

We'll talk about that at ASCO, I'll talk about that in just a minute. The ARCTIC monotherapy arm is open. The combination therapy arm should open shortly. The first patient's been enrolled in the ADJUVANT trial. To our knowledge, this is the first ADJUVANT trial with a PD-1, PD-L1 inhibitor being run with National Cancer Institute of Canada. We're very excited to get that underway. Finally, for the MURINE OX40, we have a phase I program where we have monotherapy combination with PD-L1, which was already enrolling. We've now opened up the combination with tremi arm. There's a fourth arm, which is a combination with rituximab, which is open, we haven't dosed yet.

I think it's important to highlight that now that we have a clear view of our dosing strategy for the combination of 4736 with tremi, we anticipate that over the course of this year, we could open between somewhere around 13, what I call registration trials. They could be phase II or phase III registration trials, they're either ongoing or will open this year. In that constellation, we think probably about half of those will be combination using the 4736 tremi combination. This is the exact same slide I showed you at Investors Day of news flow that you should anticipate as we go through the year. When I put this slide together, I didn't anticipate that every single row would get a green check. Somewhere along the way, we might get a red X.

At least so far, of the ones we told you in November would read out over the 2015 news flow cycle, the thing is there's green checks. I think I've gone through most of these in terms of things we've accomplished. The one new one that I'll just highlight here that was not on the chart when I showed it to you in November is the uveal melanoma study with selumetinib. This is a trial of dacarbazine versus dacarbazine plus selumetinib. As the events have accrued in that trial, it's now looking like that trial could read out this year, and depending on when that reads out, it could potentially even be filed this year. I just wanted to add that as a new line on our potential news flow.

Just to drill a little bit more into news flow in oncology, through 2015, we have a number of abstracts at AACR. I've just highlighted a couple of them here. The phase I data for our c-MET inhibitor and our PI3K beta/delta inhibitor. At ASCO, they'll be for PD-L1 monotherapy. We'll have an update on the non-small cell lung cancer population as well as the head neck population, and as I referenced earlier, the triplet combination of BRAF/MEK 4736. We'll also have an update on the combination study in non-small cell lung cancer. This is the phase I-B dose escalation study, combining 4736 with Tremie to try to set some expectations. At this point, we've dosed about 70 patients in various cohorts as we've done the dose escalations.

Some started at lower doses, the more recent patients being enrolled in the dose range where we think we'll take into phase III. Some of them will have a relatively short follow-up because they've been dosed more recently, but it gives you a feel for rough numbers of patients that we'll be presenting, and I think that will help inform you of what our dosing strategy is. The items on the right-hand panel are things that we also think. We're not entirely sure when the data will come out, I'll just sort of tick through them. As I said, the phase II data for AZD9291. I talked already about the uveal melanoma trial for selumetinib. There's also some data that'll come out sometime this year in pediatric neurofibromatosis.

Some scientists at the NIH have been studying selumetinib and that disease and have some interesting data, which they'll be sharing with the scientific community sometime this year. The ATLANTIC trial, which is our third-line, potentially fast registration trial. That data should mature as the year progresses, and there could be an avenue for us to present some of that. The TREMI meso trial, as I said, is fully enrolled, and we have a series of interim analyses to look at the data as the events accrue. I think the latest that we would have all the events accrued and be able to report out on that would be the end of the year. There's a possibility, depending on how the data comes out, it could come out earlier.

For AZD2014, which is our dual mTOR inhibitor, there's data both in combination with fulvestrant, FASLODEX, and a trial in combination with paclitaxel, where there's some interesting data in squamous cell lung cancer. The WEE1 inhibitor, there's a trial comparing standard chemotherapy plus or minus the WEE1 inhibitor, which also may read out this year, and some phase II data for our c-MET inhibitor in papillary renal cell carcinoma. Those are some other things that could hit your radar as the year progresses. I think with that, I'll stop and open it up to Pascal to take questions.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Sorry. Thanks, Briggs. I'll very quickly conclude and move to the Q&A session. Just in summary, we are very much on track. I think this is really the message to you. We delivered our upgraded guidance, exactly what we said we would do. Our growth platforms are very much on track, growing 15% this year altogether. We invested quite a lot in 2014, in particular in the last quarter of the year. That's very clear. But as Marc said, our investment has peaked. We felt 2014 was clearly a special year because, if you think about it, we had many launches. It's really rare that one single company has to deal with so many launches. We had several launches or relaunches in diabetes. We still have Brilinta in launch mode.

We continued relaunching our respiratory franchise, as you know, that for a period of time in the past had probably been neglected a little bit. Then we had to start preparing for LYNPARZA, start preparing for MOVANTIK. Quite a substantial investment. Moving into 2015, I think we are in a different phase where, of course, we're going to have to work on our productivity and then manage our expenses. We believe we have a plan. We believe we can do it. The pipeline is very much on track. If anything, in many areas, we're ahead of what we expected, but very much on track to deliver. Just to remind you, our core EPS in 2015 should grow by, at CER, by low single digit %.

Essentially, our expenses, our investment has peaked in 2014, our EPS in 2014 bottomed out, we hope to grow by low single digit rate in 2015. I'll stop here and open the session for Q&A. Maybe Alexandra and then Sachin and Jeff.

Alexandra Hauber
Analyst, UBS

Thank you. This is Alexandra Hauber from UBS. Briggs, I just want to clarify that I understood something correctly, which was you said you got to start 13 registrational trials for the PD-L1 overall, of which half of it in the combination. Is that correctly what you said? Okay. I know you're not going to say much more on the dosing of ARCTIC, but maybe you tell us a little bit more how many patients you have now seen in the phase I-B study. You said about 40 a month ago. Where is that number now? On the basis of how many patients will they be able to feel confident to determine it. Oh, you seem to already have determined it, but how many patients did you actually then do that, those finding decision?

Secondly, a question on this huge spike we've seen on SG&A, almost half a billion dollars year-on-year increase or quarter-on-quarter increase. I know some of that was the fee. I get conceptually what you're doing, but could you please give us some color on exactly what those incremental three or $400 million were spent? Lastly, on Symbicort, we've already seen an impact in the fourth quarter. In the press release, you've been referring to increased co-pay assistance in anticipation of the formulary changes. Can you just give us roughly some color? What exactly is that you're doing so that we already have in terms of the increased co-pays? Is that similar to the card you have for FARXIGA and XIGDUO?

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Should we start with Briggs? Yeah. Ask for the expenses and Luke for Symbicort. Yeah. The phase I-B study in non-small cell lung cancer, where we're doing the dose escalations, as I said, we'll have somewhere in the order of 70 patients

Alexandra Hauber
Analyst, UBS

Now

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

when we present at ASCO. That's the dataset that we're using to make the decision.

Regarding what you referred to as a spike of SG&A. I think I can tell you that the totality of the increase has been spent behind the growth brands. In other words, no increase has gone towards the established brands. The biggest part of the increase has gone to diabetes. In diabetes you have two factors, the mechanical sort of integration of the BMS part, and there is also an organic growth in launching and promoting FARXIGA and launching the dual-chamber for Bydureon. This is the largest part of it. Just to add, Marc, think about two launches in diabetes. Bydureon, the dual-chamber pen, and then XIGDUO in the U.S. On top of it, we got to 12 months post-launch of FARXIGA, we were able to start DTC.

There's an element of DTC that didn't exist before also in the U.S. There are many other things, as Marc said, but those are some of the important points. Luke, do you want to cover Symbicort?

Luke Miels
EVP, Global Portfolio and Product Strategy, AstraZeneca

Sure. I think to take it a little bit further back, we'd anticipated that something like this might have happened. I guess the advantage of anticipation is that we'd had quite a time to prepare. What we're trying to do is to remove the impact to the patient at the point of conversion. I don't want to give too much color on it. Because we had this time to prepare, we've able to be able to combine a number of programs together, which we're confident will enable us to compete. I think we can give a little bit more color around whether that's worked in Q1.

Alexandra Hauber
Analyst, UBS

Okay.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

The idea is really to make sure that those patients who lose cover and access are not disadvantaged and can stay on the product. In fact, the early indication we have is quite encouraging, but it's very early days. Sachin.

Sachin Jain
Analyst, Bank of America

Sachin Jain, Bank of America. Questions on similar topics. Firstly, on the CTLA-4 PD-L1 combo, just you said you've sorted dosing. Is there anything else material pending for that study start, or is it just administrative here? Secondly, on the six to seven combo starts, how many different tumors is that across? Related, in the different tumors, are you using the same dose across the different tumors? If you're not, if you could contrast that versus Bristol, who I think are using different doses. That's kind of topic one. Topic two is on the guidance. Your earnings guidance is very clear. I wonder if you could just help me with some of the mechanics in between. Any color on how much SG&A could fall on any additional color on the divestment income over and above metreleptin? Thanks.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Yeah. To start the combo study, it is more administrative. I think we have a very clear view of how that will work. I think for today, I probably won't give you a precise answer on the number of tumor types. What we've talked about previously clearly are lung cancer and head and neck cancer, and you know those programs. I think I'll pause on that one. What was the third part of your question?

Sachin Jain
Analyst, Bank of America

If it is more than two tumors, which I'm guessing it is it the same dose across all? Contrast that versus Bristol, who are using different dosing.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Yeah. Currently our assumption is that it will be the same dose across all. That's probably not as firm a final answer just yet. Returning to your question of guidance for 2015, we try to make it as clear as possible. We gave you the assumption we are taking on the imminent launch of NEXIUM generic. We have also provided a guidance on the sales line. We also provided a guidance on the EPS lines. We are not going to provide any specific guidance on any line of the P&L as we did for 2014, as we manage our operating expenses and all other factors in affecting our company together. A very rough indication since you asked for it, the SG&A will probably decrease in value and in percentage compared to 2014. Yeah.

Sachin, I think maybe just to add on this is we give a top line and a bottom line guidance. We don't want to give more details at this point, not because we want to be difficult, simply because you have to. I know you realize it's a very fluid environment with a lot of assumptions. One big assumption is NEXIUM. We assume the launch of generics is imminent. That's our going-in assumption. Exactly when do they launch is not defined, as you know, because they have to build inventory. They have had approval from the FDA that requires dissolution tests to be performed on the first batch. We know it's imminent. We know exactly that they're going to launch soon, precisely when we don't know. We don't know the pricing strategy that they would pursue, we don't know the speed of decline.

We really want to keep enough flexibility to be able to be entrepreneurial and flexible and redeploy as we've done in 2014, redeploy to take advantage of opportunities when they arise. The commitment we give our investors and our shareholders is we will deliver what we said we're going to do, just like we did in 2014. We want flexibility in between to be able to be entrepreneurial and adjust to the circumstances. Jeff, and then I'll come.

James Gordon
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Thanks. James Gordon from J.P. Morgan. Three questions, please. One was on Symbicort. When I look at the Q4 price and mix in the U.S., it looks quite a hit, something like 19%. I assume some of that's exceptional to do with the excise fee as well. What would be sort of the true underlying negative price and mix on Symbicort? Would that be a good run rate for 2015, or are there reasons it might look quite different for 2015?

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Just a quick point. We don't give guidance product by product, having said that, I'm sure Luke can give you some more color on.

Luke Miels
EVP, Global Portfolio and Product Strategy, AstraZeneca

I think it's very much what we said at Q3, which is we would expect pricing pressure. There were plans that we were prepared not to lower our price to that point. We've tried to do that. I think it's fair to say we had a very strong year in 2014. To see that again in 2015, again, we've signaled that there will be more pressure there.

James Gordon
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

On the pricing, GSK seemed to indicate that they had secured some positioning not just for 2015 but also for 2016. Have you signed multi-year contracts, or could we see another step down?

Luke Miels
EVP, Global Portfolio and Product Strategy, AstraZeneca

I'd rather not disclose that at this point because we see that as competitive. Clearly our aim is to get that mix right. We see this as a step change. There is the excise fee, of course, that plays into that, which can distort it a little bit. Again, we see this as initial step change, and then we're back out there competing for share right now.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

You know, Jeff, the one thing I said before, maybe just to restate it, is that the impact of the excise fee in quarter four was 4%, right, across the board. It's a little bit more for Symbicort, actually. You saw in Marc slides on an annualized basis was 2.8%, so a little bit more than 4% for the fourth quarter is one thing that you should take into account. In terms of long-term contracts, we see every day that if a better offer comes along, long-term contracts are reopened by our customers immediately. It's really hard to say I'm going to sign up a very long-term contract. We have some of those, but we always know that people reopen those contracts. They are the customers in the end. We try to negotiate, but it's not that easy.

James Gordon
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Thank you. The second question was just on OX40, where I know you've got three products or three molecules in development, it seems to keep getting more and more crowded. We know Roche has got one, Pfizer's got one, GSK announced they've got one. Do you think it is going to be very crowded in OX40 or even more? Is there going to be a lot of differentiation between all the different products?

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Well, I mean, Briggs, maybe you want to cover this. As you know, we have three. We have the murine, the humanized antibody, and then we have the fusion protein. The fusion protein potentially could be differentiated from everything else and be more effective. The question is, what safety profile will we get? We will know when we have run the phase I study. Fusion protein has the potential to be differentiated, and the rest is probably a question of combination and a question of speed. Briggs, to you.

Briggs Morrison
EVP, Global Medicines Development and Chief Medical Officer, AstraZeneca

Yeah. I think it will be crowded. Based upon what we've heard from competitors of people entering, seems to be an attractive target to many people. As Pascal said, and you noted, we have three different things that we want to sort out which one would be the best, how to differentiate. Whether they differentiate, time will tell. It was similar, I think, in the PD-1, PD-L1. There were hypotheses about one is better than the other, time will tell. I do think that it's an attractive target. We think it is. We do think that, again, we wouldn't be surprised that the real place that these show up is in combinations. Having available our own CTLA-4 and our own PD-L1 to think about combinations with OX40, we think positions us well. For sure it's going to be crowded.

James Gordon
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Thanks. Then just a final question, which was that the FARXIGA prescription trends look really good, I haven't seen you report out exactly what the sales are. Is that because there's very big discounting or couponing, and that's why the sales don't look as impressive as the prescription trends, or are you going to start reporting the sales for 2015?

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Well, actually, no, it was simply that our competition didn't report sales. We decided to not report sales. We'll report sales in 2015, no doubt. Now, for both Symbicort and FARXIGA in the first part of this year, what we have to deal with is the change in formulary listings that you're well aware of. We have plans to deal with those. Certainly, we have built in our plans also a short-term impact on our trajectory, both for Symbicort and certainly FARXIGA. Q1 sales, we will report the FARXIGA family, FARXIGA plus XIGDUO.

James Gordon
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Thank you.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Could I maybe ask one question from our participants on the telephone, and then I'll come back to the room. Is there a question on the telephone?

Luke Miels
EVP, Global Portfolio and Product Strategy, AstraZeneca

Can you mention his name, Pascal?

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Sorry.

Luke Miels
EVP, Global Portfolio and Product Strategy, AstraZeneca

I didn't catch it.

Briggs Morrison
EVP, Global Medicines Development and Chief Medical Officer, AstraZeneca

Tim Anderson.

Luke Miels
EVP, Global Portfolio and Product Strategy, AstraZeneca

Tim Anderson is the first one.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Okay. Well, the name doesn't show up anywhere. Okay. Tim Anderson. Tim, go ahead. There's nothing on the screen here.

Tim Anderson
Analyst, Sanford C. Bernstein

Thank you.

I joined late, so I apologize if you've already touched on some of these things. On mergers and acquisitions, it's a question I've asked in the past, how much of a priority is it for management to pursue transactions that would specifically pull forward the trough year of 2017? I guess the specific question here is, are you willing to say that there's an upper limit to the size of the deals that you would be considering in the next year or two? Second question is just on the PEGASUS results that came out that were positive. Can you just help quantify what that means for Brilinta, realistically, in terms of an uptick? Then last question. Right around the time that your call started, there's been some news on the wires that Pfizer's buying Hospira for $19 billion.

My guess is that you would probably concur that the odds of Pfizer coming back after Astra now seem even lower than they may have been before. Would love to hear your updated perspective on that.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Thanks. Thanks, Tim. We'll start with your last question and probably leave it at your own conclusion. On the Pfizer, no. The answer to your question, I don't have it, but I can only deal with probabilities, and I think it's relatively logical to think the probability of a return is substantially reduced. I guess that's probably the only thing we could say at this point. In term of PEGASUS, Luke, maybe you want to cover this. Just one thing is that you have to wait. We have to wait for the data to be in the label to be able to fully promote that new indication for Brilinta.

Luke Miels
EVP, Global Portfolio and Product Strategy, AstraZeneca

There's obviously a limit to what I can speculate right now because of the status of the data. Ultimately, this should have a positive impact for this product because you increase confidence on the part of interventional cardiologists that are using this in the lab. When the patient is discharged from the hospital, they're more likely to have stronger instructions to continue treatment. This should have an impact, we hope, on the days of treatment, the length of treatment. I mentioned before that many patients are not making it to a full 12 months. In a number of markets, for example, in Europe, where you have reimbursement, you have this higher initial conversion, and many of these patients stay on for longer, as I said, 50%. But a number of healthcare systems stop these patients immediately at 12 months.

In the U.S., by contrast, you have less patients coming on initially, but that's changing rapidly. Once they're on the product, they do tend to stay on for longer beyond 12 months, which is not something that we promote. I think there's just a broader halo effect if we look across the whole program and out over a number of years in different indications, gives people confidence that this mechanism is doing what they hope that it would do.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Just maybe to add is that a couple of points is, we were always confident in our PLATO data, and we certainly defended that study. At the end of the day, we had to accept it was only one study. Now we have a second study that reconfirms the benefit of this product in ACS. Hopefully, we can hope that this debate is behind us, the controversy is behind us, and as Luke said, it will help people build confidence. The second thing is that over time, and I say over time because 2015, we cannot promote this data at all. We have to wait for the label. Over time, it will help us in particular in the U.S., because in the U.S., you only have 20% of patients who stay on the drug for 12 months. In Europe, 50%.

Quite frankly, it was already the case with Plavix before. It's certainly very much the case for Brilinta. As we demonstrate for PEGASUS, but also with the help of studies like APOLLO, that really shows that patients who have had an event and are not treated with DAPT are very much at a high risk of facing a recurring event. If we use this body of evidence, we have good arguments to convince physicians that they should really make sure their patients stay on the drug. Marc, you want to cover the last point?

Marc Dunoyer
CFO, AstraZeneca

Yeah. Briefly, it's a difficult question to answer, is there a limit to a deal? I think we don't really look at it in such a way. For us, we explore opportunities by looking at whether this outside opportunity is aligned with our core strategies. The second criteria we use is, are we going to do a better job than the team in place? Are we going to be a better owner? The third, obviously, is the price and the impact on our earnings. These are the three parameters we look. I don't think there are physical limitations to debt today. The debt market is relatively easy, and the cost of the debt is very low. For us, the debt capacity or the limit to the deal is not what we look at.

It has to be absolutely aligned with our strategy, and these are the key areas we look at.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Yeah. Our primary focus is really to turn this pipeline into a reality. We've got a lot of great projects here that can help patients and create enormous value. We've got to focus on making this happen. We will continue looking for opportunities because it is clear that we have a bridge between now and 2017. We have two years to go that are certainly years where we're making good progress, but we're also facing headwinds with NEXIUM and CRESTOR patent expiries. If we were able to find an acquisition that would help us bridge to 2017 and build further strengths in our core areas, we would do it.

As Marc said, the three criteria that we use, we try to follow in a disciplined manner, and we've looked at many, many opportunities and it's really hard to find one that would address our criteria so far, but we'll certainly keep looking.

Marc Dunoyer
CFO, AstraZeneca

Thank you.

Nicolas Girtone
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Nicolas Girtone, Morgan Stanley. Three questions, please. The first one is with regards to the ATLANTIC trial. In light of the recent developments, how would you rate the probability of filing MEDI4736 on the back of a single-arm trial? Could you discuss the possible scenarios depending on BMS labeled in third and second-line lung cancer? The second question is a financial one. Your guidance of flat reported EPS versus revenue down low double digit implies significant SG&A cut to the tune of $1.5 billion, if my maths are correct. Don't you see any risk of impacting the U.S. primary care-oriented growth platform? Could you give us a few examples of things you can cut without impacting those platform? The final question is a quick respiratory one. Any specific reason behind the strong performance of PULMICORT in emerging market in Q4, and is that sustainable?

Thank you.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Great question. ATLANTIC, Briggs, if you want to cover and Marc.

Briggs Morrison
EVP, Global Medicines Development and Chief Medical Officer, AstraZeneca

Sure

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

can cover the expenses.

Briggs Morrison
EVP, Global Medicines Development and Chief Medical Officer, AstraZeneca

I think it's fair to say that it's a fairly dynamic environment that we're living in terms of PD-1, PD-L1s. I will say that what we've heard from BMS and their readout of their phase III trial, the Merck announcements and Roche are sort of what we anticipated evolving in this space, which is why we started ATLANTIC in a third-line population, which as best we understood at the time we started that trial, was a population that was still available. As I've said multiple times, the ability for us to file ATLANTIC, of course, depends on exactly what happens with our competitors in terms of their filing and their labels, and it depends on what data we generate from that trial. Again, it's a dynamic field, and we have to see what data comes together.

At this point, we still think there is a window that allows us the strategy we laid out, which has a fast-to-market strategy with third line.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Marc, you can go on with the expenses. Let me just quickly cover the PULMICORT question. The PULMICORT success is really driven by China. It's very much a Chinese event, and it is really quite an exciting development, I have to say, because for many reasons. First of all, it's used in pediatrics, pediatric asthma, essentially. In the last couple of years and those kids are treated in nebulizing centers. In the last couple of years, we've gone from 200, 300 nebulizing centers to more than 2,000. We've helped build more than 2,000 nebulizing centers in China, and we've been able to bring PULMICORT to all those kids who actually need to be treated. I think PULMICORT today is one of the biggest products in the Chinese marketplace, actually. It's exciting because we are helping those kids. Now we're moving to home care treatment.

Because the problem is they go to this nebulizing center. Some of them are exposed to infections, of course, so we're trying to now move to home nebulizing treatment. The last thing is that it actually bodes well for the long term, because in China, patients today doctors are treating asthmatic patients during the acute phase of asthma. They don't treat on a maintenance basis. That's why you see Symbicort and Advair are growing, but they're not that enormous considering the size of China. If we do a good job educating the medical profession, there's an enormous potential to treat patients on a maintenance basis in asthma. Then there's the whole COPD segment, of course. Marc, you want to cover the?

Marc Dunoyer
CFO, AstraZeneca

Just talking about the 1.5 decrease on G&A. I think you're forgetting one very important part, and we have referred to it at the Investor Day. I also mentioned it today. I want to repeat again. We are going to look and accelerate our exploration for externalization. It's probably a part that you need to take into account in your modeling. We can't provide you with any clear indication today, but this is going to be an important part of our revenues for 2015. On the structure of the spend, obviously, our G&A line is going to continue decreasing. If you look historically, this line has decreased. It will continue decreasing. We are redoubling our effort in containing our cost on the G&A line.

On the sales, marketing, and medical, the only indication I can give you is that the medical is going to increase because this is the evolution of our portfolio from a primary care portfolio to a specialty care. The medical line is going to increase, but the two other lines are going to be either stable or for marketing in reduction.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Thank you.

Marc Dunoyer
CFO, AstraZeneca

Just some indications.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Should I take the next question on the telephone? Mark Clark, Deutsche Bank. Mark, do you want to go ahead?

Mark Clark
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Yes. Hi, gentlemen. I was sort of intrigued by your comment about China now being your second largest market. For most of your peers, it's a nice to have, but in your case, it's now getting quite vital. That being the case, I think probably most of us are not quite as attuned to the dynamics of that market as we would like. Perhaps you could give us some prognosis for the Chinese market itself. You talked about some of your individual products like Pulmicort, but for the market itself, because I think I've seen data suggesting that the double-digit footfall through hospitals has dropped to 6%, 7%, and obviously the government and the regions are looking to sort of cut prices. Are we now looking at an era of high single-digit growth in China rather than double digits, or? Very interested in your thoughts. Thank you.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Well, do you want to cover this one, Luke?

Luke Miels
EVP, Global Portfolio and Product Strategy, AstraZeneca

I think it's going to remain a very attractive market in terms of our business. Obviously respiratory is very important, but also cardiovascular. Pulmicort is dominant today. Symbicort is a relatively small part of our business and one that we're very actively seeking to grow along with Brilinta and the diabetes portfolio, of course. In terms of the outlook for the market, it's clearly slowing, but it's still at a growth rate of around 12%, which is certainly not slow. In terms of structural changes, I think that's the open debate we've had for a couple of years now. I think there's a number of people that are of the belief that if the economy further slows, the government will direct funding into healthcare, in the interest of stability. They recognize that they have a structural challenge in the country, whether it is diabetes, cardiovascular disease, or also COPD.

I think we remain quite optimistic. In terms of exact numbers, we wouldn't want to give exact numbers at this point for our business, but it's an attractive market. In the future, it's going to reward innovation, and again, we feel our pipeline is well presented there if we look over the next 10 years.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

The 12% market Luke was referring to, we certainly continue outpacing this quite substantially as a company. The market's slowing down. We've seen this before in China. There was a period of time when it slowed down, then accelerated again. It's not because it's at 12 today, which as Luke said, is a very healthy growth rate in the first place, but it's not because it's at 12 today, it will stay there. It could accelerate again for the reasons Luke was describing, which is the government is going to have to invest more in healthcare. That's going to help the market. Private insurance slowly developing that will help also access. In the end, you're going to have tensions between price pressures, just like in every other market, and at the same time, volume expansion.

If you look, for instance, at diabetes, we have with ONGLYZA in China, in the half of the country that we manage as a company, the other half was BMS and we've now recovered it since October. In the half of the country we manage, we have 40% share, so we're trying now to achieve this on a national basis. The problem is, of course, this class of agent is not reimbursed yet, but when it becomes reimbursed, we'll suddenly leverage the market share we've got. We certainly see China as a very important market. As you said, for some companies, it's less important, but for us, it's very important. We see it as a very big market in the future. As Luke says, there will be more room for innovative medicines as well, cancer and others.

We have now almost 7,000 people in China, so that really is going to be a very important market and very important country for us. There was another line from Seamus Fernandez at Leerink. Seamus, do you want to go ahead?

Seamus Fernandez
Analyst, Leerink Partners

Sure. Thank you so much for the question. Just quickly to start off, can you talk a little bit about the diabetes market and the combination opportunity of the SGLT2 inhibitor plus the DPP4 inhibitor? Maybe how important you think the role in terms of getting combination pricing right is going to play in the competitive dynamic, or do you really think that the product is so differentiated that important pricing and discounting won't play a significant role? Second question is, again, on diabetes. I believe you started a combination trial of the SGLT2 inhibitor in combination with Bydureon. Can you talk a little bit about the reasons for initiating that trial? I know there have been some very positive case reports in that regard, but would love to hear your thoughts on that and the strategy of bringing those two products in combination.

Lastly, the ADJUVANT trial, I think is something that really differentiates AstraZeneca when it comes to the prospects of having a late introduction with your monotherapy. Can you talk a little bit about the opportunity in the adjuvant setting and how you reach into that market and really maybe give us a little bit of a better sense of the size of that market as you look at it? Thanks so much.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Where do we start, combo pricing?

Luke Miels
EVP, Global Portfolio and Product Strategy, AstraZeneca

Yeah. I think just at a macro level, we're very attracted to the concept of combinations. I think with the DPP4s, we've seen good uptake. Ourselves, I didn't mention it, but we've had a strong launch of XIGDUO in the U.S., very encouraging. To have Saxenda in the portfolio is something that we're looking forward to. In terms of pricing structure, I think it's fair to say it's unlikely to be 1 plus 1 equals 2. Now, whether that is 1.2, 1.6, 1.5, or 1.8, in some degree, we're going to inherit that structure because of course, we're second to the market. Again, we are very encouraged. We think there's a clear place, and it reflects the evolution of the disease, and it makes it easier for patients to take this as well as co-pays. Attractive.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

The SGLT2 plus BYDUREON combination, the logic behind it is that some patients who take SGLT2 regain weight, and some experts are speculating there's upregulation of glucagon, and people gain appetite and start eating more. By using SGLT2 in combination with a GLP-1, you could potentially block this increased appetite and really achieve very substantial weight loss reductions. Because if you look at the effect of the SGLT2 and the quantity of glucose people lose when they take an SGLT2. If you calculate the weight loss impact, it would be much, much more than what you actually see in the clinical trials. The hope is by combining the 2, we would see a very, very substantial weight loss so that would be the ideal combination for those patients who are diabetic and have excess weight. Briggs, do you want add anything to that?

Briggs Morrison
EVP, Global Medicines Development and Chief Medical Officer, AstraZeneca

Yeah. She was asking the question about the ADJUVANT opportunity is one that's going to evolve because obviously with the increased screening that people are now doing based upon some of the lung cancer screening trial, there are some who are estimating that the ADJUVANT trial is phase I-B/II and phase III-A. It's earlier stage patients, and with increased screening, it's possible that that population will actually increase over what we see today. You'll probably have the sort of standard epidemiology of the presentation by stage. By the time the ADJUVANT trial reads out, it may in fact be moving patients into earlier stages.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

As you can imagine, the ADJUVANT setting is going to be very large from what we know from other products. Basically what we're trying to do is take a variety of approaches to this immunotherapy franchise. 1 is to find a way to get to the market as quickly as possible as many of our peers are doing. 2 is to find indications where we would be first and think about the long term, and the ADJUVANT is part of that long-term thinking. Then 3, of course, is the combination where instead of being a challenger and trying to catch up, we could in the combination setting, we could be actually a leader. A leader with another company or whole leader, depending on what the other combination development looks like. Certainly, we're approaching this from a variety of angles. Should we return to the room?

Simon Baker
Analyst, Exane

Thank you. Simon Baker from Exane. Three quick questions. Firstly, on the SYGMA study with Symbicort, can you give us a little bit more of your rationale for doing that study now particularly as we get close to loss of exclusivity in the U.S.? I do note from clinicaltrials.gov that there don't appear to be any U.S. sites in that study. Is that partly explained by where you're targeting this indication? Secondly, on FX, you very helpfully gave us some more sensitivity on FX. I just wonder if you could go a little bit further and give us the relative proportions or some sense of the relative proportions of the currencies in the other bucket. Australian dollar, ruble, won, et cetera. Thirdly, and apologies if I missed this earlier have you given any guidance on the tax rate for 2015? Thank you.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Two questions for you, Marc, and one for Briggs. Briggs?

Briggs Morrison
EVP, Global Medicines Development and Chief Medical Officer, AstraZeneca

Let me take the SYGMA question first. Remember I said SYGMA builds off of the SMART indication, which is the Symbicort maintenance and reliever. We don't have SMART in the U.S. You can think about the SYGMA opportunity as a follow-on in the markets where we do have the SMART indication, which I think addresses your question about where. Again, I think to Pascal's point and the comments about Pulmicort, if you think about some of these earlier-stage asthmatics in other markets around the world where there's a need for new therapies, we think there could be a significant opportunity here, although probably unlikely in the U.S.

Marc Dunoyer
CFO, AstraZeneca

Trying to answer your question on the relative weight of the other currencies, I believe the five currencies that I mentioned on the table are the five main ones among the others. I do not recall the exact proportion of it, but I assume that these are the five main ones and that the other would be obviously much more limited. I can find this information for you. I don't have it-

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

From memory, I think the ruble and Australian dollar had a big impact. The ruble, simply our business is not that huge, but drop in the ruble, as you know, is enormous. We could get back to you on this, but those are really two substantial ones.

Marc Dunoyer
CFO, AstraZeneca

The table gives you if each of these currencies were impacted by 5%, what would be the impact? Obviously, you want to know the relative weight of it. I don't have the answer for you. I believe those are the main ones. Regarding the tax rate, you have seen that in 2013 we were roughly at 20%, 16% in 2014, in 2015 is probably going to be between the two.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Yep.

Naresh Chouhan
Analyst, Liberum

Naresh Chouhan from Liberum. A couple of questions, please. On Crestor, could you please help us with what's still remaining in terms of marketing effort, both in terms of DTC and Salesforce? On R&D costs, it would appear to me that there's some downward pressure this year with the PEGASUS study and the saxagliptin/dapagliflozin study now ending. Can you give us some sense of what you feel the upward pressures are through 2015?

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Yeah. The upward pressure, and Briggs jump in if you have more to add, but the upward pressures are the new projects we've progressed into phase III, very much immuno-oncology. Oncology as a whole and immuno-oncology in particular. That's where the upward pressure is 13 programs in phase II, phase III. This is quite a substantial investment, and we have to support that franchise. We certainly are putting a lot of efforts in this oncology business, both from an early development phase I, II, but also late-stage development. Briggs, anything you want to add?

Briggs Morrison
EVP, Global Medicines Development and Chief Medical Officer, AstraZeneca

No, I think you hit it.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Crestor, look, I don't know if you have the numbers in mind, but it's quite small.

Marc Dunoyer
CFO, AstraZeneca

Yeah.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

It's relatively small now.

Marc Dunoyer
CFO, AstraZeneca

Yeah. It's really focusing on select plans and defending at that level.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Every model in the U.S., look, shows that you need to promote products until almost the last day before patent expiry if you want to maximize the value. Of course, you promote very differently and at much lower levels. Investment behind Crestor has reduced very substantially. Everything goes behind, not everything, but almost everything, especially in the U.S. and Europe, goes behind our gross platform. Any more questions? No? We have one online. Who's this?

Marc Dunoyer
CFO, AstraZeneca

Matthias.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Mattias. Mattias, go ahead.

Mattias Häggblom
Analyst, Danske Bank Markets

Thanks. Mattias from Danske Bank Markets. Three questions, please. One of your peers was recently granted breakthrough designation for its anti-PD-L1 antibody in non-small cell lung cancer. Could you remind me if you submitted a request for your anti-PD-L1 antibody with the FDA or not, and if not, why? Secondly, can you comment on what your gross to net was in the U.S. during 2014 and what to expect for 2015 as this is very much in investors' mind at these days? Lastly, with regards to the Almirall portfolio, which was part of your books for the last two months, you state in the report that it generated sales of $30 million. Is that a good run rate to think for 2015 in this region and this opportunity, or was there something in particular to take into account during the transition phase? Thanks so much.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Briggs, do you want to cover the

Marc Dunoyer
CFO, AstraZeneca

Yeah

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

the first question, Marc, the Almirall question and the gross to net question, just to be sure, Mattias, gross to net of what?

Marc Dunoyer
CFO, AstraZeneca

The U.S., the sales.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Total U.S. Okay.

Briggs Morrison
EVP, Global Medicines Development and Chief Medical Officer, AstraZeneca

We don't comment on whether we've submitted for breakthrough. We will obviously tell you if we were to get breakthrough. What I can tell you is that we continue to have conversations with FDA. We got breakthrough designation for 9291. We got breakthrough for some of the antibodies that Pascal referred to earlier and antibiotics. We continue to have those conversations, and should there be a data set that they get excited about that they would entertain us applying, I think they would be clear about that. That's about all I can say about the breakthrough at this point.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Marc?

Marc Dunoyer
CFO, AstraZeneca

On the impact of Almirall, you have for the last two months of 2014, the Eklira, one of the brand. We also received approval on Duaklir, and this product is going to be launched. You must also take into consideration that we received some revenues and milestones from original partners of Almirall, and these are included in other incomes. These are substantial amount of money. You have impacts not only on the sales level, but also on the other income in the last quarter of 2014.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

The gross to net, I don't know if we disclosed this information, actually. I don't think we have in the past. Thomas, we haven't, no. It is, of course, substantial. We don't disclose that information. Good.

Speaker 16

We have one more question from-

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Sorry?

Speaker 16

One more question.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

One more question, maybe the last one, Thomas?

Speaker 16

Yes.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Right.

Speaker 16

Matt. This is Matt.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

Matt, do you want to go ahead, Matt?

Matthew Weston
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thank you very much. It's Matthew Weston from Credit Suisse. A couple of questions, if I can. The first one relates to the income from partnering and/or divestiture of products. On a simple calculation, it looks like you're expecting at least $1 billion of income this year if we follow the guidance around costs and revenue. Can you confirm that is the realms of the number that you're thinking of? Can you also tell us how you're thinking of 2016 and 2017 on a relative income basis? Obviously, if you can't afford to invest in these assets, which is why you're looking to partner them, the flow of them should diminish over time.

Particularly as you talk about 2017 being the return to earnings growth, is that from an underlying base without this supplementary income, or you think the operational performance of the business will accelerate so rapidly that it can overcome the hurdle of these one-time gains? I know we don't like to talk about reported earnings versus core, but I do notice that in Q4, there was a $636 million charge in SG&A for the Bristol alliance. Can you explain what that is? Have you written down the value of what you acquired from Bristol, and if so, why?

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

The series of great questions, Matt. Maybe I'll ask you to answer one of those. The first question, we don't disclose specific numbers. I think the one thing I would say is that you got to think about this partnering externalization, however we call it, as a part of our business model. It's not a 2015 or 2016 event. It's an ongoing event. If you saw what we have coming through the pipeline in pre-clinical from our two units, you would understand what I'm talking about. There's a number of projects there, and we can't develop everything. Essentially, we had two options, either substantially reduce research and development and kill a lot of things, or actually decide to indeed take our operating model to its final end, which is let those units operate really as biotechs that will actually create value with other companies.

We see that from the discussions we're having with a variety of people, we see that we can create value. Why stop those projects when we actually can take them to patients and create value for the company? See this as a ongoing path, sustainable part of our business model. Now, in terms of numbers, I don't have them here and certainly we would not comment on those anyway, but it's not a 2015, 2016 event. It's part of a business model moving forward. Now, the contingent consideration, the BMS, it's actually not bad news in term of a write-off. It's actually sort of good news, it's a complex accounting issue that Marc can take us through.

Marc Dunoyer
CFO, AstraZeneca

Thank you. First of all, let me correct. It is not a write-down, it is the other way around. Basically, we need to account for the future payments or future contingent consideration that we would have to pay to BMS. As we perform our long-term planning, we get these results, and the mechanical formula tells us how much money we would owe to BMS. This year, this amount of these obligations has increased, therefore, we have to take it to [non-core]. It is not a write-down, it is an increasing our contingent obligations, contingent consideration that we would have to pay, obviously, for forecast. Correct.

Matthew Weston
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Understood. Marc, a very quick follow-up there. It was the surprise that it then jumped so significantly in 4Q. Do you basically revalue your contingent considerations in the fourth quarter? Or in the fourth quarter, you substantially increased your expectations for the performance of diabetes and that led to the revaluation?

Marc Dunoyer
CFO, AstraZeneca

The answer to that question is that we do a long-range plan once per year. We do it in the last quarter of the year. When we have this basis for calculation, we apply it to the formula or to the royalty rate that we have to pay, and we calculate at that time. It is the first part of your option.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

It is influenced by the mix of products and the total sales that we are forecasting. As Marc said, we redo our plan starting in September, culminating with a presentation to the board in November. In the course of the last quarter, we revalue the long-range plan and the various parts of that, including diabetes. Immediately, we have to take this charge to the P&L. Those are the standards. I know we have had many discussions on the topic. We do not decide the accounting standards. That is the way we have to do it, and we just apply them. Anything you want to add?

Marc Dunoyer
CFO, AstraZeneca

There was another question on the externalization. I think what we can say, we're not going to give you a new amount, but if you use 2014 as sort of a base, what we can say that it's going to accelerate. We're going to redouble our effort, and it's going to intensify the externalization projects or negotiation we have with third parties.

Pascal Soriot
CEO, AstraZeneca

By the way, as soon as we take this consideration, it has an impact also on our tax rate, as you can imagine, because that influence, this contingent consideration, has an impact on our taxable earnings. Of course, the reported tax rate is influenced by this accounting event. I will stop here and thank you all for your participation and your great questions. I wish you a great afternoon. Thank you very much.