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Earnings Call: Q3 2021

Jan 20, 2021

Speaker 1

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Burberry Third Quarter Trading Update 2021 Call. My name is Haley, and

Speaker 2

I will be the operator

Speaker 1

for your call this morning.

Speaker 3

I will now hand you over to Julie Brown, Chief Operating and Financial Officer. Please go ahead. Good morning, and welcome to Burberry's 3rd quarter conference call. I hope you're staying safe and well. With me this morning is Julian Easthope, our Interim Head of IR and slides are available to accompany this presentation on the IR section of our website.

We will be happy to take your questions at the end. As guided, We reduced our markdown this quarter and this had a material impact on the total comp. I will therefore include Full price sales commentary to provide further insight into the performance of the business. We highlighted 4 areas at the half year where we've made good strategic progress, and this has continued into Q3. Our full price business strengthened further with seasonal campaigns and collections resonating strongly with clients.

Digital continued to grow at pace. Full price leather goods continued to perform well And growth continued to be driven by a new younger consumer as well as existing clients. We also executed A significant planned reduction in markdown. This together with the decline in outlets and increased COVID-nineteen restrictions This led to a minus 9% comp this quarter. While we are not providing formal guidance at This stage due to the volatility in some markets, we would like to highlight that gross margins will benefit from full price regional and channel mix on lower stock provisions.

OpEx remains well controlled and savings programs are delivering to plan. And inventory is on track to be below last year's levels by the end of the year. Slide 3 shows the main moving parts within our Q3 performance. Full price sales grew by a high single digit percentage year on year. This strong underlying performance was a good backdrop for us to pursue our strategy of materially reducing markdown volumes and shortening sale periods, reinforcing the equity of the Burberry brand.

This resulted in a very significant reduction in markdown comp sales This affected total group comp by a high single digit negative percentage as we flagged at the interims. In addition to this, COVID-nineteen restrictions increased the number of stores closed, particularly impacting Europe, together with capacity restrictions or reduced hours. Footfall was also down, particularly in outlets. In addition to this, tourist traffic has virtually disappeared, mainly impacting EMEA, Japan and South Asia Pacific. Overall, tourist traffic fell by over 70% in the quarter and accounted for significantly less than 10% of our sales.

As we show on Slide 4, There is a high correlation between store closures and sales performance, and the chart shows the progression year to date. In Q3, we had an average of 7% of our stores closed, with 19% in EMEA, 3% in Americas and 2% in Asia. In addition, a third of the network was operating with reduced hours. We now have around 15% of our stores closed globally and a further 36% operating under restrictions, as well as other challenges such as the recently imposed travel restrictions in China. So while we're confident of a good recovery in open markets, we expect an increase in trading disruption in the 4th quarter.

Turning to Slide 5. This shows the major components of retail sales. We start with the minus 9% decline in comparable store sales. Space was up 4% this quarter, in line with our guidance of broadly flat for the full year. Space benefited from new stores as well as an increase in temporary pop up stores this period.

We made progress with the store rationalization program with 30 stores now closed as the 38 planned, And we have now refurbished 86 stores. In total, retail sales was down 5% at constant exchange rates and reported revenue down 4%. For the full year, current spot rates now give a broadly neutral impact on revenue and profits compared with the previous guidance of a $16,000,000 tailwind on revenue and a $5,000,000 on adjusted operating profit. To provide assistance in modeling currency, the sensitivity of a 5% change in foreign exchange on our projected mix Would result in a change of $35,000,000 to adjusted operating profit compared to the $45,000,000 we outlined previously. Turning to Slide 6 and looking at comp store sales by region.

Asia Pacific saw 11% growth, a little better than Q2. Mainland China saw strong double digit growth, Similar to Q2 full year 2021, in a quarter that is a higher percentage of local sales compared with half 1. Full price sales increased at a level well above the Mainland China comp and strengthened over the prior quarter, largely driven by leather and outerwear with strong trends from both new and repeat customers. It is worth noting The Q3 typically has a higher mix of locals shopping in Mainland China, so this growth is off a higher base. Korea remains one of our best markets globally with comp sales up mid teens.

Within this mix, Full price sales were strongly ahead with markdown reduced very significantly. Trends in Japan and South Asia Pacific Continue to be affected by lowest tourist traffic and COVID-nineteen related restrictions. EMEA declined 37% as it continued to see moa source demand. In addition, the region saw the biggest swing in store closures, moving from 5% to 19% over the last two quarters. Continental European customers saw a small increase in domestic demand.

And finally, the Americas fell 8%. The material reduction in the markdown impacted performance this quarter, but the key statistic is full price sales growth, And this continued to be strong. Full price sales growth increased in the mid teen range with growth driven entirely by a new and younger clientele. Slide 7 brings you up to date on some of the business and strategic achievements. I will start with product and focus on the areas we highlighted as important pillars, primarily leather goods and elsewhere.

Full price leather goods saw a low teens increase in comp sales. This was especially strong in China and Korea, up over 50% and also very positive in the U. S. Within this, the top 4 women's bags account for around 60% of women's bag sales with all shapes contributing a good level of sales. We also saw good initial traction in the Olympia bag launch this quarter.

Outerwear, including Brainware, also saw a low double digit increase in full price sales, with China and Korea being the main drivers. Within the mix, there was also good growth in quilts, stands and jackets. Digital continued to perform well in the period, with full price sales growth of more than 50% and triple digit growth in China. We also use the digital capability to engage with customers during periods of limited traffic or lockdown through live chat, virtual appointments and client events. In addition, We've also continued to deliver on innovative campaigns for the festive season and Lunar New Year.

Our festive campaign With international footballer and child poverty campaigner, Marcus Rushford, MBE, has been exceptionally well received, With the Instagram post being the most liked of all time. The Lunar New Year campaign has just kicked off with a capsule collection launched in China. This is being supported by our first bespoke campaign and film called A New Awakening and is being launched globally over the course of January. Localized campaigns are a key focus for us. In the quarter, we had success with the Burberry Generation, a monthly content series where we collaborate with young cultural talents.

And in China, a teaser for our Honor of King's collaboration with Tencent. Turning to Slide 8, I wanted to say a few words on our responsibility goals. This is a core value at Burberry and we are pleased this is being recognized amongst the independent agencies. In Q3, we achieved our highest ever score in the 2020 Dow Jones Sustainability Index, And we were also included as a leader on the CDP's A List, following our work to cut emissions and mitigate climate risk. Deepening our commitments to drive diversity and inclusion, Burberry became the 1st luxury company to partner with the Business Disability Forum, a non profit member organization bringing businesses, Those with disabilities and policymakers together to help make a real difference across industries.

To supplement our own internal program, We joined the BBC's Creative Allies initiative, which aims to unite the creative industries to promote the concept of Allyship. We're also very pleased to see the start of the rollout of the vaccine developed by Oxford University and AstraZeneca, whose research we helped to fund in March last year. Turning to the outlook on Slide 9. We are encouraged by the strengthening of full price performance. Our decision to reduce markdowns was executed to plan.

Gross margins will benefit from full price channel and regional mix And lower stock provisions. OpEx is also on track, and we will deliver the savings programs as guided. This has been achieved while managing inventory, and we expect it will be below last year's level by the end of the year. However, the short term outlook remains uncertain due to COVID-nineteen, with 15% of stores currently closed And a further 36% under trading restrictions. Whilst mindful of the uncertain backdrop, We believe we are well placed to accelerate when the pandemic eases and deliver on our strategic ambitions.

We would now like to turn to the Q and And the first question is from the line of Thomas Talbot of Citi. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Good morning, everyone. I have three questions, please. The first one on the markdown reduction. If we think about the next The 3 quarters, so Q4 to Q2, can you tell us which quarters see the most headwinds from that markdown reduction? And When you talk about markdown reduction, how much of that is a lower proportion of products on sales versus reduced depth of discount?

Secondly, on the outlets, I guess, the performance must be difficult in some of your tourist driven Destinations like La Valle or Corpuster Village, what's the typical sales mix between locals and tourists in your global Networks of, I think around 50 outlets. And finally, on pricing, has there been any pricing Worth mentioning at the beginning of January, your plan for calendar Q1. More generally, Julie, what do you think about The opportunity for the industry maybe to return to a more sustained pace of price increase.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thank you very much, Thomas, for the questions. So taking your first one, so the markdown reduction, We executed this as we planned in Q3. Q3 is always the higher markdown period. So in Q4, we would anticipate some impact because we have EMEA tending to be more in Q4, whereas in Q3, it's Asia and Americas.

So there will be a more muted impact on Q4 and would anticipate A low single digit percentage. In terms of going through the following quarters into next year, We will continue on our strategy of focusing on the full price and strengthening the full price. And in terms of next year, we'll provide further guidance on this at the year end. But the important thing to note is really Q3 It's the more marked quarter. In terms of the proportion versus the discount debt, We actually did both.

So we decided to lower the proportion of the markdown. So the volume was lowered together with the depth of the discounting level. So it was a case of both. Moving on to outlets. Outlets are more dependent on tourist travel, and that's why we see the underperformance in outlets This quarter that's contributed to the minus 9% in terms of the total comp.

And yes, The tourist dependency on outlets is in the order of 40%, whereas full press channels, it's around 23%. The final question you had was about pricing. So we've taken no major changes in relation to pricing. In terms of plans, in terms of next year, we'll obviously assess this as we finalize the budget, And then in terms of industry pace price increases returning, I think the industry will Resume price increases, different brands depending on the degree of transformation at different stages. But yes, I think the industry will resume We'll resume that.

In our case, we've seen a good level of improvement in the AUR, but it's been driven by Changes to the product line, the fabrication, the design, and this has led to the AUR increase.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Julie. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Thank you. The next question is from Susanna Kus of UBS. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Good morning, everyone. I have three questions, please. My first question is on full price sales. So And quite a big part of the press release was focused on that to kind of highlight the underlying performance. But I just wanted to understand how do you exactly define that Full price sales development.

Is it just mainline stores excluding outlets? Or is it specifically within the mainline stores the products which are not discounted? So that will be very helpful because I'm just struggling to understand how we get from plus high single digit to minus 9 at the like for like level. So it would be very helpful to kind of understand that dynamic. Secondly, on gross margin.

So reading your press release, It sounds like you're a bit more positive on the gross margin in H2 and that's because of the mix of factors, full price sell through, etcetera. So I just wanted to double check what are exactly the drivers of that? Were there maybe any kind of quite sort of specific factors like Provision releases or anything just to be aware of, that would be very helpful to know that. And finally, on digital. So Would you be able to say how much digital is actually as a percentage of sales?

Because I remember historically you were a bit reluctant to comment on e commerce Specifically, and back then the industry didn't even comment about that at all. But by now, quite a few companies talk about e commerce. So I guess it would be easier to put That comment about digital full price sales being over up over 50%, if we knew actually what percentage of sales that is. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thank you, Susanna. So taking those questions, first of all, in terms of full price sales and the definition, It's basically items sold at full retail price in our own mainline retail and online network. And we've actually included a definition of this just for completeness on Page 4 of our announcement, Just so that it's absolutely clear, because I think that deals with the first part. In terms of the elements of how you get from high single digit full price to the minus 9% comp.

There are 2 major factors. One relates to the significant fall in markdown activity, And this contributes a negative high single digit impact on the group comp, So effectively negating most of the full price increase. And then in addition to that, we've got a decline in outlets. As we mentioned, outlets are very exposed to tourists, and our outlet business has come under serious pressure this year, and particularly the Q3. So we've also got that further depression coming from outlets.

If you were comparing The Q3 comp of minus 9% with the Q2 comp of minus 6%, there was a step up in closures between the two quarters. There We had stores closed at around 3% in Q2 and it's moved up to 7% in Q3. As we showed on that Great. There's a very high correlation. Even though we've got a strong digital channel and some traffic moves to digital, there's still a very high correlation with store closures in terms of our comp performance.

I think that deals with the sales related questions. Moving on to the gross margin. So yes, we are guiding to a positive impact on gross margin. We had a 90 basis point improvement in gross margin already in the first half. And in addition to that, we're expecting a number of Benefits to continue.

So we've got mix effect benefits from both channel and regional shift, And this should continue into half 2. And in addition to that, there's a positive full price mix effect and a lower impact in the second half from fixed cost absorption compared to that that we had in the first half. Just to let you know, Wholesale was a benefit to margin in the first half, but we don't expect that to continue into the second because we expect wholesale sales In half 2, to be at a similar level to last year. In terms of stock provisions, we're expecting these to be positive. We've got an improved sell through and we expect this benefit to continue into half 2 because we've got better trading than we expected and therefore a cleaner to position.

We've also had a lower buy of the autumn winter season, so that reduced inventory levels. And we also had cautious provisioning last year because we had 60% of the stores closed When we were finalizing our year end. So again, positivity coming from stock commissions. Final part of your question was relating to digital. So we don't disclose the digital Proportion of Burberry, what we do share is the industry viewpoint.

And in terms of the industry as a whole, it's around It was around 10% before COVID. What industry commentators are expecting is that it will move To in the order of 20%, 25% of the business, even some commentators are suggesting higher than this. In terms of our own Position because we see an omni channel strategy and we find that there's a high degree of consumers researching online in 70% 8% of cases before they would buy in a physical store, we find that the lines are very blurred and therefore measuring this Precise channels is not so relevant. It's really all about the growth across Mainline and Digital combined.

Speaker 5

Perfect. Thank you. Sorry, I just wanted to follow-up because so basically to double check that definition of full price, that's Mainline stores excluding any discounting. So it's just full price sales within the Mainline So it's not total mainline stores performance, right?

Speaker 3

That's absolutely correct. If we mark a product down in a mainline store, It counts as markdown.

Speaker 5

So basically, if I take that so if I take the fact that it was high single digit positive, but there was a negative high single digit

Speaker 3

So if you take the high single make sure can you just repeat that piece to make sure I've understood you?

Speaker 5

So basically, If I understood correctly, you had the high single digit performance in mainline stores on the full price assortment, But there was a negative high single digit because you reduced the markdowns, debts and basically That whole aspect of markdowns. So if I combine these 2, they offset each other. So that's It's a fair assumption that mainline stores, so the whole business excluding outlets was actually flattish.

Speaker 3

Yes, so there's a slight additional benefit. So the mainline full price Positive growth was slightly higher than the high single digit markdown was.

Speaker 5

Okay, perfect. And sorry, just a last follow-up. So on the gross margin, so there so I think you just to check if I understood correctly, so there will be some positive from the release of provisions, but In H2, right, to check. And if so, what would be the magnitude, just so that we understand how much of, let's say, potential upgrade to consensus today would be a clean number and how much would come from some positive from the provisions. Would you be able to quantify that?

Speaker 3

At this stage, it's very difficult to do that. We've clearly got the 4th quarter to trade through Where we've got increasing volatility in terms of store closures, giving precise line of sight on the release of stock provisions is extremely difficult Because those stock provisions will depend on the lines that are sold through well in the final quarter. And those that remain and the age of those stock lines and whether they attract further provisions or not. So It's very hard for me to give you the accuracy of the split. What we can say is these factors Are expected to both benefit the margin, both the mix, regional channel, Thank you.

The next question is from Lukas Volker of Bernstein. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Yes, good morning. I have a few questions, please. One is about trends In sales growth by nationality, we understand that Europe has been geographically under pressure, but I was wondering how Your progression looks when you take into account sales to Chinese consumers globally As well as sales to European or American consumers. You were also talking about leather goods Being quite concentrated in sales with high Pareto concentration on the top SKUs, I wonder if you're starting to see These SKUs have multiyear appeal, and they are starting to build the lineup that you We're pointing to when talking about the development of handbags taking a few years. Do you start to see the platform you have there consolidating and You have there consolidating and expanding into different families that To give you a better view on how this category could be developing.

Looking at your explanation of how comp sales have developed, I draw the conclusion that the outlet business is very important indeed and very material indeed for Burberry. I am not sure Did she commented before on the size of this business? But on the back of the envelope, it looks Probably a third of the business and with the discontinuation of discounts in store, I would expect it To be even bigger going forward, but please correct my perception, if you can. And then last, If I may, we are looking at the COVID-nineteen situation in China with some apprehension. I wonder if you have, from your experience, some rule of thumb on the importance of sales in the run up to Chinese New Year And after Chinese New Year for the calendar Q1, I know that the date of Chinese New Year tends to change, but I have the impression that The period up to Chinese New Year is the most important.

And after that, people start traveling normally. So I wonder how we should be reading the situation that is unfolding in China at the moment. Thanks very much.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Luca, it's a very comprehensive set of questions. So turning to the first one in terms of nationalities. And obviously, the most important, the Chinese. So Chinese were broadly stable in Q3, And this is despite material reduction in markdown.

We've had strong local growth, offset by negligible Tourist traffic. And our growth in Mainland China has been very much supported by the continued success of our localization strategy and some repatriation of spend. The British, here we saw a weaker performance, I think largely due to the store closures in November and further lockdowns and restrictive measures in December. In terms of the Europeans, remained positive despite the headwinds for the 2nd wave of COVID in November. And then Americans were slightly softer in the 3rd quarter, largely due to the significant reduction in the markdown activity.

So I think that addresses the first question relating to nationality. In terms of the second part to your question, leather, yes, We always said leather would be a multiyear journey. And what we wanted to do was focus on building out the architecture of the bags. And we feel that we have been successful in building a number of pillars to the range now. So the pocket bag is doing extremely well.

The low of the TV, the title, these are all strong pillars now within the range. We recently added a 5th pillar, which is the Olympia range that launched this quarter. So yes, we do believe we're now generating a multiyear appeal with refreshes in terms of colors depending on the season. But yes, we've got we certainly believe now we've got the foundation for a very successful leather goods range. And as you will have seen From the announcement, we've done well in terms of a low teens full price growth in leather this quarter, which is a continuation of strength we also saw in Q2.

If we move on to the outlet business, So we don't disclose the size of the channels, including the outlet. But What we are seeing is that we will reduce we're most likely to be reducing Discount levels and markdowns and we don't expect this to be a bigger cost of the business going forward because the whole objective of this is to continue on the journey of elevating the brand. So this means reducing the mark Down in the stores as we've done very significantly this quarter. But in addition, reducing the size of the business overall in Outlast. So This is the direction we're moving in as a company.

The final question about COVID-nineteen in China And then relation to Chinese New Year. So we obviously have picked up an increase in infection levels In China, and in particular, the northern region, including Beijing, has been impacted thus far, where we've seen some isolated cases across different cities in China. And so far now we've got one store closure remaining in the Hubei province. And we've seen some impact on traffic as a result of that. As you probably know, the Chinese have stopped people from traveling for the New Year, Which brings me nicely onto the second part of that question.

Traditionally, you're absolutely right. We used to see a surge in sales in China leading into the New Year. And then we would typically see a surge in sales outside of China, particularly in EMEA post Lunar New Year as people We're taking traveling they were traveling and taking holidays. It's going to be interesting to see how this pans out This year because of course most of that travel has now been stocked. So I think we probably will see the uptake Moving New Year is a bit later this year, so we have to reassess our comps in the light of that.

But yes, I think we'll see an uptick probably before and potentially afterwards as people stay more locally based.

Speaker 6

Thank you very much indeed, Julie. Thank

Speaker 3

you. And the next question is from Rogerio Fujimori of Stifel Europe. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hi, Kjellie and Julien. I have two questions. The first one is about Outware, where you Called out a return to low teen full price growth in Q3. I imagine China is a key factor. If you could comment about what's driving that low teen growth and your initiatives To drive the women's outwear in particular this year.

And my second question is on trends, Sales strength in terms of price points, if you could talk about areas of strength, sales strength and weakness in terms of price points, are you seeing your Younger new consumers moving towards lower or higher price points across your main categories. I think, actually, you are improvement in your answer to Tomah, but I was curious to hear If these younger consumers in places like the U. S. Buy more enterprise items than average. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thank you, Jiraira. Yes. So in terms of outwear, overall, we delivered a double digit low double digit full price performance. China was absolutely key to this.

So we saw particular growth in China, also in Korea. And in terms of what drove it, we've obviously had a campaign dedicated to outerwear, so the winter campaign featured outerwear very strongly. We've also had a special review of the heritage of our outerwear. And I'm sure you will have seen on our website also the comprehensive review about how, in particular, the trench is made, The handmade involvement in the trench. I think outerwear, this is also a good season for outerwear.

So we tend to get to pick up Generally, and we've seen very strong pickups in the rebounding markets, particularly in Asia. So In addition to the trench, we've also had quilts and downs that have been performing very well. And again, this is featured as part of our shows and our exposure of the product line. Just moving to the sales price trends and the price points Yes, the consumers. So we have seen an increase in AUR.

This has been a progressive increase that we've seen now over a number of quarters. As we've elevated the product, the manufacturing and also the material that's being used in the design, We've been able to charge higher prices for the product. In addition to this, in terms of younger consumers, they are Buying across categories very encouragingly and they're also buying across different price points. So again, I think it's an encouraging trend. So AUR has improved through Q3 globally across all regions and with new and also existing clients.

So again, a positive trend.

Speaker 7

That's great. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Please hold. The next question is from Chiara Battistini of JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Hello, hi. Thank you for taking my questions. I just have a couple of small follow-up questions really. Just wanted to make sure, did you say wholesale is I just wanted to double check this comment with the comments that you made Around gross margin and the channel mix, expect it to be positive also in the second half of the year. So just wanted to tie those two comments, please.

And second question on the space growth in the second half. Should we still be expecting around 3% growth or slightly better given what you achieved in Q3? And finally, if you could give us any color on how to think about the OpEx in the second half of the year And notably given that Q4 should see a strong acceleration of top line given the comps, if we should also

Speaker 3

We're anticipating at this point in time, obviously notwithstanding any issues further issues from COVID, but we're expecting wholesale to be flat in the second half compared with the prior year. So this is one of the channel mix benefits that won't benefit the second half because we had an uplift in the first half relating to the retail wholesale mix, which won't be coming through in the second half. However, other mix Factors will be positive to the gross margin. Full price will be positive. The regional mix will be positive because of the SKU towards Asia.

And also the SKU away from the markdown and the outlet channel will also be a positive In terms of the space, yes, we're maintaining the guidance, the space being Broadly stable for the full year. So we're anticipating a further benefit coming through in space in the 4th quarter that will lead So the second half being around probably slightly less than the 5% level, which will take us overall to flat for the full year. And then finally, in terms of operating expenses, There are some timing reasons why the benefits in the first half that we had on operating expenses year on year will not Repeat in the second half of the year. But overall, we're basically on track to deliver everything that we've said in terms of OpEx. So the savings program that we articulated will deliver the 148,000,000 Cumulative total by the end of this year, so that will come through.

In addition, we've also got The program that will deliver the total $35,000,000 is expected this year from the organizational changes we announced in July. However, that will be reinvested in the business into the commercial frontline, particularly marketing activities into the business. And basically the other benefits we'll expect to get just in terms of amortization benefits, they will also come through. The straw rationalization program also gives us a benefit to OpEx, but it doesn't benefit the profit. And that is also moving to plan and expected to be around about the €10,000,000 mark for the full year.

Speaker 2

Thank you very much. Just a couple of follow-up Okay. A clarification, please. On the when you so when you talk about the channel mix being positive to the gross margin, you mean full price versus outlet, Non retail versus wholesale?

Speaker 3

Yes. We're referring to that point for the second half, yes. Yes. But for the full year, retail and wholesale will give us a benefit because of the decline in the wholesale in the first half.

Speaker 2

Absolutely. And on and just on the point of the reinvestments into marketing activity, when should we be expecting an acceleration of the marketing spend from the savings, being reinvested.

Speaker 3

So we're already As a business, we're very focused on moving money from enabling areas in the business more towards the commercial frontline. So we've already engaged in that by moving money from finance, HR, etcetera, and pushing the money more into the commercial areas, including marketing. So this is a thing that we have been working on for a number of years.

Speaker 1

And shall we expect an acceleration from you? Sorry.

Speaker 3

Well, what we're also doing very much so We've relooked at the way we were spending the marketing, and we're also focusing that marketing on rebounding markets. So there's very much a focus on China, Korea, local influences, localization.

Speaker 1

Perfect. Thank you very much.

Speaker 3

Thank you. The next question is from Terminus Yap for Fred Byrne. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Hi there. Good morning. I have two questions, please. The first one in terms of recapturing The Marvel traveling customer, can you comment on any shifts here perhaps maybe is Hainan now a focus for you? Do you have stores there?

And in terms of the improvement in Korea where the travel retail is wholesale, has that helped at all? Or is it still too early here and leading up to the better wholesale overall outlook. And the second question in terms of digital, can you comment between Perhaps your own brand.com, website performance and those of the concessions through Farfetch and also especially in China in terms of platform services or website. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thank you very much, Charmaine, for that. Yes. So in terms of traveling consumers, we have seen a very significant uptick in Hainan. I'm glad you raised this because Hainan for our business is a wholesale account.

So it doesn't get included in the retail numbers, So we have seen a significant impact. And actually, it's probably worth knowing that it would add about 5 percentage points to our Chinese comp, if it was included in retail. We have seen some element of travel returning in Asia, particularly we saw an uptick in Macau. But apart from that, it's been relatively subdued. And certainly, Long call travel has been very subdued, has continued to be very subdued.

Moving on to Korea. Korea has been Korea Wholesale has been under a significant amount of pressure this year, largely because of travel retail. This has not contributed To the expectation that it will be flat in wholesale in the second half at all, it's been it's continued to be under serious pressure. The uptick in Wholesale in the second half versus the performance in the first half was really due to the fact that in the first half, we were very, very strict in terms of controlling inventory that was going to Wholesale is because we wanted to control the inventory of the channel. In the second half, the increase has really been due to Americas, strong performance in Americas as we've seen in retail, very strong full price performance.

And also, we've seen the same Improving trends in Europe. So year on year, we've got that benefit. It's probably also worth remembering that The Q4 was impacted by COVID last year in terms of wholesale accounts. The final point you mentioned about About digital, we've seen very good traction in terms of our own channel. So 3rd parties have also been performing very well, but burberry.com has very strong performance too.

I think if you look at the 3rd quarter compared with the 2nd, yes, we did see an uptick in 3rd party relative to our own channel, but both are performing strongly. Important to remember as well that the 3rd quarter is impacted by the significant steps we took to reduce the markdown In digital as well as in landline.

Speaker 2

Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thank you. The next question is from Catherine Parker of Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Good morning. Just two follow-up questions from me. So firstly, back on the topic of Outlet. We noticed an increase of 2 versus the interim results. And I wondered which region these were located.

And going forward, as you see this as a smaller part of your business, are you happy with the number of outlets? Or do you think There's some scope to reduce this number. And secondly, on to leather goods. So another thing we noted was that the TB bag had a low single digit price rise in most global markets in January. And I wondered if this was the same across your other key bag pillars and how you see the price relative to your Piers and developing specifically in the leather goods area.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thank you very much. In terms of outlook, so we have got an outlet presence in all the major regions. And the reason for this is because we are still just about 60% apparel business. It does mean that when you deal with broken sizes, size ranges get broken as you're going through the sales.

What that means is you've got to be able to clear that inventory using the outlet mechanism. So each of our regions is responsible for their ordering of inventory and then their subsequent clearing of that inventory and they will use outlets in that equation. Just in terms of the overall level, we've got around 50 at the moment. And as we were mentioning, Camluca earlier, we do anticipate Keeping that under very tight control, which is within our control completely as a business. So therefore, we'll keep it under tight control and Probably be right around that level, but we'll probably reduce the volumes over time.

In terms of the price increases, We have got the low single digit price rise. We've taken very modest price increases. And relative to our competitors, I think what we deliberately set out to do was increase the Quality of the leather that we were using, we've increased the sophistication of the demand and we charge a price There is definitely perceptible value to the consumer because we've been building out the leather range and that's been our first priority at this point in time. So yes, I think our bag range represents very good value to consumers. The next question is from Thierry Kota of Societe Generale.

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Speaker 8

ahead. Yes. Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Julie. I have three follow-up questions.

First on wholesale, You mentioned flat to H on your constant currency. You also said no benefit from channel mix. Are you implying That the retail trend in H2, expectantly would be similar to that of wholesale or did I misunderstand? Secondly, on online, in terms of exposure, you did mention that you didn't want to be too specific. However, you did say the industry was more or less around 10% before COVID and could expect up to 20%, 25% or above this year.

You used to say that you were over indexing on the industry. Were you before COVID when the industry And do you still expect to be above the industry if it reaches 20% to 25% this year? And lastly on outlets, I'm trying just to understand what's going to happen going forward. You did say about So the business is down not quite half, but not very far. Is that a level that you're happy with?

Or do you think that when things normalize, the business will go back up somewhere between Where it is today and where it was before and you would be happy with that or you would rather keep it down, let's say broadly speaking, the 50% level compared to earlier levels.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thank you very much Thierry. So just in terms of wholesale, we're expecting to be flat in the second half. As you know, we get reasonable line of Right on wholesale orders. So it's a lot easier to anticipate compared with retail.

Retail, I think It would be wrong for us to guide on retail because we are experiencing this increase in store closures Between now the Q4 and the 3rd, we're up to 15% of stores closed. And the other complication, of course, Is that because the Q4 comp was affected by COVID, You've got this issue of the growth rates increase very significantly as you go into those final 9 weeks of this year. So what we will be doing is providing a line of sight on both our performance versus last year and also versus last last year, So that you can see through the trends. So no further color really on retail apart from Having guided on the number of stores closed and the disruption the business is still seeing, as I mentioned, it's now 15% of our stores are closed due to COVID disruptions. Moving on to digital, and it would be worth me just clarifying this.

So I'm talking luxury as a whole. The exposure to digital is about 10%. It's very important to note that it's a very, very much an omni channel approach in terms of The way the consumer works, they move across digital and mainline Still off quite freely and they do very frequent research online, so it's very difficult to measure this precisely. But basically, the luxury industry used to be 10%. The growth I mentioned earlier in digital at an industry level is over a number of years.

So industry commentators such as Bain, McKinsey, BCG are anticipating that level of growth in digital by around 2023. So it's not going to happen immediately. It's over a number of years. In terms of ourselves over indexing, Yes, we definitely over indexed in digital because we went into digital many years earlier under previous management. And we've really continued to build that presence As we've gone through and we've had a very conservative effort this year in attracting consumers to digital, improving the website and doing various other operational activities to improve it.

So yes, we expect to continue to over index and It's so useful to us, not only as a way of reaching out to consumers when stores are closed, but also a communication vehicle for our campaigns and very importantly also a very important data source for our consumers so that we can See what they're browsing and make the connection between what their interests are and what we have available in the range through our retail associates. The final point about the tourists in the outlook. I mean, I think tourist travel We'll over time resume. I mean, I'm so encouraged by personally as well as business wise, the fact that we will hopefully be And we'll be able to resume our normal life. And we do expect Taurus activity to come back over probably not over the next Certainly 6 months in terms of long haul, but maybe over 12 to 2 years, I think we'll be talking about that sort of level.

And then clearly, The outlets will probably improve as a result of that. But we won't be doing anything in particular to encourage that happen. I think it's just going to be a natural phenomenon.

Speaker 8

Okay, great. Thank you very much, Trudy.

Speaker 3

Yes, okay. Thank you. And this concludes the question and answer session. I would like to

Speaker 1

turn the conference back over to Julie Brown for any closing comments.

Speaker 3

Okay. Well, thank you very much for all joining us this morning, and thank you for your great questions during the call. So we look forward to engaging with you subsequently and certainly for the full year, we'll be seeing you on the 13th May. And I really do hope that it will be in person on May 13. Thank you.

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