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Earnings Call: H2 2024

Jun 27, 2024

Operator

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for Foresight Group's Full-year Results Presentation for the year ending 31 March 2024. The presentation will commence shortly. After the presentation, we will conduct a Q&A session. If you wish to ask a question, you will be able to submit a question either through the Zoom webinar link provided separately or by submitting written questions using the Ask a Question button on the Spark Live webcast page. If you have joined us via Zoom webinar, please note that this call is being live-streamed to a webcast for a wider audience and will be recorded. By participating in the Zoom webinar, you are agreeing that recordings made during this event may be shared by Foresight Group.

During the Q&A element of this morning's call, if you wish to ask a question, we ask that you please use the raise hand function at the bottom of your Zoom screen. If you already have a question, please do this now, ready for when the Q&A begins. I will introduce you, ask you to unmute your line to ask your question. We advise that for the best viewing experience, you watch the Q&A in speaker view. Please do this by clicking on the view button at the top right corner of your Zoom screen. I would now like to hand over to Bernard Fairman, co-founder of Foresight Group, to open the presentation. Please go ahead.

Bernard Fairman
Co-founder and Executive Chairman, Foresight Group

Good morning. I'm Bernard Fairman, co-founder and executive chairman of Foresight Group. I'm delighted to welcome you to Foresight's full-year results for the year ending 31 March 2024. Before addressing Foresight Group's performance in the last financial year, a reminder of who we are. This year marks our 40th in business, and while we've evolved considerably over that period, our fundamental purpose remains the same today as it was in 1984: to invest, build, and grow companies and create value for our investors. Today, we are an alternative asset manager operating through the divisions of Infrastructure, Private Equity, and Foresight Capital Management. Our long-duration real asset strategies focus on investment opportunities created by the global energy transition and wider decarbonization agendas, as well as natural capital and broader infrastructure.

I believe that the energy transition is the largest investment opportunity in a generation, with global investment levels required to nearly triple to an estimated $4.8 trillion per year by 2030 to remain on track to achieve global net zero targets. In addition, we have a successful regional private equity strategy focused on generating excellent returns, investing in small and medium-sized enterprises throughout the British Isles. As is the case with many countries, the UK and Ireland SME funding markets are structurally underserved, with an estimated equity capital gap of over $15 billion in the UK alone. Finally, our liquid strategy, Foresight Capital Management, leverages our expertise from infrastructure private markets. Together, these divisions bring investors closer to some of the world's most exciting emerging investment opportunities, combining to deliver scalable, predictable, and profitable growth.

Looking now to our performance in the 2024 financial year, a year in which the group showed strong earnings momentum while demonstrating the multiple drivers of growth we have across our strategies, we've maintained a track record of profitable growth post-IPO. This track record has been driven by long-term structural growth in our key markets of the UK, Australia, and mainland Europe, complemented by our highly scalable platform that can capitalize on these trends. Our revenues are predictable, and we've good visibility on future earnings, which helps to underpin our growth strategy. This performance is built on robust foundations. We've created a diversified and resilient business model that can deliver growth through the economic cycle by investing in the energy transition, building scalable infrastructure, and backing growth companies. Taking profitability first, you can clearly see our track record in the chart on slide six.

We grew core EBITDA pre-SBP by 18% in the year and achieved a 35% compound annual growth rate when looking at the last 3 years' performance. Over that 3-year period, 70% of the growth was driven by the success of our organic strategy, which is in line with our expectations at IPO, with a 30% contribution from strategic acquisitions. But we've not just grown profits; we've also scaled the business, growing our margins from 34.6%-42% over the same 3-year period and achieving 43% in the second half of FY24. Turning now to slide 7, the trajectory of our profitable growth has been underpinned by our growing asset base. AUM closed FY24 at $12.1 billion and has since grown to around $12.6 billion as a result of institutional and retail fundraising in the first quarter of the new financial year.

In FY24, our asset base demonstrated resilience, reflecting the high proportion of long-duration capital across our private equity and infrastructure divisions. Our more liquid division, Foresight Capital Management, benefits from highly scalable strategies with multiple distribution channels. Although the division saw net outflows in the year, we're confident that we can reverse that trend as interest rates begin to fall. Post-period end, we've seen improving sentiment within institutional infrastructure fundraising, which we expect to continue throughout the year. As an example, the second vintage of our flagship energy transition fund, FEIP II, achieved a first close of EUR 300 million earlier in the month. Moving on to slide eight, which demonstrates the ongoing success of our diversified model.

With three core investment divisions, infrastructure, private equity, and FCM, and over 90% of our assets held in evergreen or limited partnership vehicles, we're able to deliver consistently over the long term for our shareholders. We have strong distribution capability, reaching over 40,000 retail clients and 200 institutional investors to whom we market our products. Our geographic footprint is also growing with high-quality origination opportunities across the UK, Europe, and Australia, supported by our network of local offices. Together, this gives us great confidence that we have a large and diversified business addressing significant and rapidly growing markets. I'll now hand over to our CFO, Gary Fraser.

Gary Fraser
CFO, Foresight Group

Thanks, Bernard. Turning first to slide 10 in AUM, which was broadly flat at $12.1 billion during the 12 months to 31 March 2024, with growth slowed by the challenges of raising large institutional infrastructure funds in a high-interest rate environment. Our resilience was a function of strong gross inflows of $436 million into higher-margin retail products delivered by our 50-strong in-house sales team alongside continued successful private equity institutional fundraising of $134 million. This included the launch of two new regional funds in Wales and Northern Ireland, representing a further expansion of our local footprint. In combination, these inflows offset $446 million of net outflows in lower-margin OEIC products within our FCM division. These outflows were principally driven by challenging wider market conditions.

The net impact of these movements resulted in an improved AUM and FUM mix when compared with the prior year, as evidenced by the marked increase in profitability during the period. Moving on to slide 11 in revenue, our improved FUM mix, in combination with a full year of revenues from FY23 acquisition activity, drove strong growth of GBP 22.1 million, or 19% year-on-year, to GBP 141.3 million in total. Our revenues remained of a high quality, with 87% of total revenues recurring annually, which is right in the middle of our guided range. We also continued to diversify our revenues with 21% non-GBP denominated, an increase from 16% in the prior year and a trend that we expect to continue as we increase our international reach. Turning to costs, during the period, we effectively managed costs in what was a high-inflation environment.

Above-historical average salary increases and a one-off expense in relation to cost-saving initiatives drove a year-on-year increase in FY24 costs of 12% when compared with our rebased FY23 costs of $76.7 million. This increase excludes a non-cash adjustment for an impairment of intangible assets. Looking ahead, we expect cost growth to moderate as inflation eases. Now, profitability. Strong 18% year-on-year core EBITDA pre-SBP growth was driven by successful prior year and year-to-date fundraising into higher-margin and longer-tenure vehicles, the annualization of FY23 M&A activity, and effective cost management, as mentioned earlier. In terms of margin, we delivered a 42% margin for the year, with H2 FY24 achieving a 43% margin that is in line with our medium-term target set at IPO. Finally, FY24 represented another strong year of cash generation.

The chart on the left illustrates the close alignment between our key profitability metric, core EBITDA pre-SBP, and cash generated from operating activities, with the main difference being the timing of cash received in relation to debtors. The chart on the right illustrates that we continue to remain strong and active stewards of cash that we generate. With excellent visibility over future revenues, we're able to be very efficient in our approach to capital allocation and therefore maximize shareholder value. For example, the board is recommending the payment of a GBP 15.5p final dividend matching that paid in the prior year and increasing the total dividend by 10% to GBP 22.2p versus FY23. This reflects a high level of cash generation and core EBITDA pre-SBP in FY24.

Following further cash generation post year-end, we are also extending our buyback policy, doubling the amount that we have allocated to this program, which we believe is an optimal use of the group's cash resources. Turning to guidance, we have now been listed for three years, entering the FTSE 250 last summer. As you can see from the charts on this slide, our performance in that period has been excellent, with a strong track record of delivery against the ambitious targets that we set out at IPO. Having achieved significant growth, we feel that now is the right time to evolve our guidance on the future growth of the group. Looking at slide 17, we have always focused on delivering profitable growth for our shareholders, but we are now updating our guidance to directly align with this ambition, specifically to double core EBITDA pre-SBP over the next five years.

This is our key profitability metric and, as I explained earlier in the presentation, is the best measure that we have for cash generation. The doubling will be delivered organically, building on the materially larger business foundation that we have today, with a five-year horizon allowing us time to launch multi-vintages of a number of our highly scalable infrastructure strategies. In favorable equity markets, accretive M&A will remain a focus but will be incremental to our guidance and seen as an accelerator of growth.

Alongside delivery of our growth guidance, we will operate the business with good revenue visibility guiding to the existing range of 85%-90% recurring, an expanding profit margin as the business scales, a dividend payout ratio of 60% as part of a clear approach to capital allocation, and we're confident that our business is excellently positioned to deliver on this guidance, being underpinned by multiple drivers of growth, which is a clear benefit of our diversified model. Turning to look first at our long-established, highly profitable foundation strategies, our regional PE and tax-efficient products benefit from long-duration capital inflows into higher revenue margin products. With nearly daily inflows into our tax-efficient products providing consistency, we have a number of market-leading capabilities across these strategies. For example, in our retail sales team who provide full UK distribution coverage, ensuring that our products reach the relevant audiences.

This team has delivered success consistently with strong results already in the first quarter of FY25. Also in our approach to origination and regional PE, with boots on the ground across the UK and Ireland sourcing investment opportunities and facilitating attractive entry multiples through our comprehensive network of contacts. This, combined with a robust realization track record, provides strong returns to our investors. To maintain and further enhance our competitive position in these markets, we continue to innovate and have a pipeline of future products ready to address investor demand. These factors combine to give us a high degree of confidence that these strategies will continue to deliver profitable, consistent growth for our business and provide strong foundations for the group.

Now turning to slide 19, we have also developed a number of highly scalable strategies within our infrastructure and FCM divisions that are designed to capitalize on rapidly growing markets. Specifically, we invest in opportunities that support the global energy transition and wider decarbonization agendas through both private and listed strategies. Drawing on years of experience in these areas, we offer comprehensive investment solutions that cover every aspect of the investment process. Our broad geographic reach supports our successful track record in fundraising and deployment. An excellent example of our success is FEIP, our flagship energy transition fund, which closed its first vintage in September 2021, 70% above its target raise.

This, alongside the pipeline of new products that we have developed, including a hydrogen fund in pre-marketing and FCM's listed equity strategies as the macro environment becomes more favorable, gives us a platform upon which we can build and creates confidence in our ability to identify, develop, and launch new products that meet investor demand and achieve target returns. The combination of our highly scalable and highly profitable strategies provides confidence in our ability to deliver our guidance of doubling of core EBITDA pre-SBP in the next five years through organic growth. I'll now pass you back to Bernard.

Bernard Fairman
Co-founder and Executive Chairman, Foresight Group

Thanks, Gary. Now looking ahead to FY25, we've started the year strongly with AUM and FUM both closing Q1 up around $500 million at circa $12.6 billion and $8.9 billion, respectively. A key driver of this increase was the first close of FEIP II at EUR 300 million, which included one sovereign wealth fund as a cornerstone investor. This first close was achieved less than six months after the investment period closed on FEIP I, having achieved its deployment target by making 15 investments across nine different technologies, including wind, solar, pumped hydro, and international interconnectors. Reaching this milestone underscores the quality and demand for this energy transition product and contributes to our wider group aim of raising multiple institutional infrastructure funds. Also, in the period, we've invested in the construction, financing, and commissioning of a 267 MW solar park in Greece.

As part of this investment, we leveraged our expertise to originate and source co-investment and arrange financing for this project, underscoring the growing reputation and comprehensive capabilities of our infrastructure division. This investment also represents an expansion of our geographic footprint, with a new local presence being established in Athens. During the period, we completed 4 private equity exits with an additional investment of $17 million, returning $66 million in sales proceeds. In addition, today, as Gary has already mentioned, we are pleased to announce a doubling of the total allocation of our share buyback program, which the Foresight Group Holdings Board has determined is an optimal use of cash resources.

We're very pleased by our progress in Q1 and remain confident in being able to deliver further profitable growth in FY25 and beyond, with the key near-term drivers being the full-year benefit of the recurring revenues provided by FY24 growth, multiple fundraising opportunities across our scalable institutional infrastructure strategies, consistent fundraising of our well-established retail distribution platform, and the continued expansion of our regional private equity strategy. In summary, we've delivered another strong year of profitable growth, extending our very long track record as we continue to capture the opportunities presented by the structural trends in our markets. Our organic strategy has been core to our success, contributing the lion's share of our growth over the last three years. The first close of FEIP II demonstrates the improving sentiment for institutional fundraising that we're seeing in the market.

We carry strong earnings momentum into the current financial year, and as we've demonstrated, we have multiple drivers for further growth. We have long-established, highly profitable strategies, market-leading capabilities across these strategies, and our diversified model is highly scalable. Combined, these strengths give us confidence we will create further shareholder value in FY25 and beyond. Thank you very much for listening, and we'll now take your questions.

Operator

Submit questions in written format via the webcast page by clicking the Ask a Question button. If you're dialed into the call and wish to ask a question, please use the raise hand function at the bottom of your Zoom screen. If you're dialing in via phone, you can raise your hand using star nine and unmute yourself pressing star six. We will pause for a moment to assemble the queue. We'll take our first question from Jens Ehrenberg of Investec. Please unmute your line and ask your question. Please go ahead, Jens. Jens Ehrenberg from Investec, please ask your question. We seem to be having some technical problems with Jens. Tom Mills from Jefferies, please go ahead and ask your question.

Tom Mills
Equity Research Analyst, Jefferies

Yeah. Good morning. Good morning, guys. Hopefully, you can hear me. Thanks for the presentation. I just had a question on the institutional fundraising pipeline. Clearly, you've had a good start to FY25, the first close of FEIP II. Just wondering how you see things playing out, potentially with scope for a second close. Could we maybe see that before financial year end? And how should we think about the phasing of fundraising for the hydrogen strategy that you've got in pre-marketing? Thanks very much.

Bernard Fairman
Co-founder and Executive Chairman, Foresight Group

Tom, hello there. Good morning, everybody. It's me again, only this time live. The answer to your question, I think, is I'd be amazed if we don't see at least one more close on FEIP II during this calendar year, and I would expect two more during this financial year. One thing to say is that the two investors who came in on the first close clearly both did a lot of work on our pipeline of further follow-on investors because they needed that to encourage them to come in early. So they have, from their point of view, satisfied themselves that we've got lots of people that are looking at the fund and working on investing sometime soon. I think on hydrogen, clearly, this is a fairly new market, although hydrogen has been around as a fuel for quite a long time.

We've got several big funds doing due diligence now with a view to hopefully a first close in the autumn. As you may recall, the plan is to have a number of flagship funds which raise money sequentially. So this year, as it happens, we've got two or three raising money at the same time, but that's the plan.

Tom Mills
Equity Research Analyst, Jefferies

Thanks, Bernard. Very clear. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from James Allen at Liberum. Please unmute your line and ask your question.

James Allen
Director of Equity Research, Liberum

Hi, morning, Bernard. Morning, Gary. I'm relatively new to the story, so forgive me if some of these questions seem a bit simple. I've got four questions, if I may, but they should be quite quick. First one, discount rates have risen across your various funds over the last few years. Could you give us a broad brush estimate of the impact on NAV and therefore management fees at the group level from, say, a 1% fall in discount rates coming back down the other way as base rates fall? Secondly, why is a 43% medium-term EBITDA margin the right number? Thirdly, revenue generation from foreign currencies looks like it's going to continue growing given the Greek solar deal you've announced. How do you plan to manage currency translation risk going forward as that grows?

Then finally, the targeted double-core EBITDA over the next 5 years, so broadly going from, say, circa GBP 60 million of EBITDA to GBP 120 million. Of that GBP 60 million increase, what do you expect the contribution to be from the 3 different businesses? Thanks.

Gary Fraser
CFO, Foresight Group

Okay. First question was about discount rates and how does that flow through to management fees if there's a 1% fall?

Operator

Yes.

Gary Fraser
CFO, Foresight Group

So I mean, I think the reality here is on a lot of the infrastructure funds, the management fees are related to committed or deployed capital and not necessarily related to the NAV. However, it is true that on the investment trusts, they are related to the NAV. And therefore, the investment trusts, the two main investment trusts are probably about GBP 1 billion of FUM, and a 1% reduction would probably add maybe GBP 50+ million in terms of NAV, maybe a bit more than that. So I think it would certainly add between GBP 1-2 million to revenues, and therefore most of that would flow through to the bottom line because clearly, these are already well-resourced funds. So I think it would have a direct impact both in terms of top line and bottom line in that regard.

We can certainly come back with more detailed numbers in due course, but my estimate would be between GBP 1 million and GBP 2 million to the bottom line.

Operator

The second question was about why 43% core EBITDA margin is the right number over the region.

Gary Fraser
CFO, Foresight Group

Yeah. So I mean, going back into the annals of time, when we first IPOed, the target was 40%, but when we listed, we changed from UK GAAP to IFRS, and that meant that the change in the accounting system translated 40 into 43. So that is why it's such a strange number in terms of 43%. The original target was 40 under UK GAAP. So over the medium term, we expect now that we've hit that 43% target, we expect to move that forward. And I think as we really scale the business and take advantage of the various platforms and multiple fund vintages on the institutional side that Bernard alluded to in the first question from Tom, then I'd like to see us moving that up. And it's certainly my aspiration that we hit mid-40s over the next few years and then up over 50% thereafter.

We haven't arrived at our final destination in terms of margin. It's certainly one that we want to push over 50% in the medium to long term.

Operator

The third question was around the management of increasing currency translation risk with the likes of the Greek investment.

Gary Fraser
CFO, Foresight Group

So I think here, so I assume we're talking about currency risk from a Foresight perspective as opposed to the investor perspective because the investors clearly are happy with euro risk, and therefore a lot of the investors in the funds that will be investing are actually euro-denominated funds, and therefore there's a parity there. So in terms of Foresight, we obviously have quite a large euro business within, we've got offices in Madrid, we've got offices in Italy, we've got an office in Luxembourg as well. But it is something we look at, and where there is, how can I put it, where we see sort of medium to long-term risk, then we will hedge that. But we tend to hedge capital transactions rather than revenue transactions because they're obviously all going on the revenue basis, and we tend to translate them as and when they arrive.

For instance, when we bought the Australian asset, we hedged a large part of that over a prolonged period of time. We're benefiting from that now because we hedged it at about 171, and the rates have since gone up to close to 190. It is something we look at. We do hedge things over the longer term, but it tends to be more capital-based than revenue-based.

Operator

And then the final one was just about in terms of the doubling of the core EBITDA to the growth target, and what was the likely divisional contribution to that doubling?

Gary Fraser
CFO, Foresight Group

So in terms of the doubling, I think we're moving forward across all of the divisions over the next five years. But the principal increases will be through infrastructure and FCM because there's real scalability in those parts of the businesses. So although we might see further increases in private equity, that's already at a high margin. And so pushing ahead in terms of FCM and in terms of infra as we start to see a more benign interest rate environment where hopefully we'll start to see that come through in the August monetary policy decision-making. But in terms of absolute numbers, I would expect infrastructure to almost double during that period, FUM to more than FCM, sorry, to more than double during that period. So I think the principal contributors will be infrastructure and FCM as those see the real benefit of a more benign interest rate environment.

But clearly, private equity will also contribute as well.

Operator

Does that answer your questions, James?

James Allen
Director of Equity Research, Liberum

It does. Thank you very much, guys.

Operator

No problem. As a reminder, if you'd wish to ask a question, please use the raise hand function at the bottom of your Zoom screen. Our next question is from Jens Ehrenberg at Investec. Please unmute your line and ask your question.

Tom Mills
Equity Research Analyst, Jefferies

Hey, morning, guys. Can you hear me now?

Bernard Fairman
Co-founder and Executive Chairman, Foresight Group

We can, yes. Yeah.

Tom Mills
Equity Research Analyst, Jefferies

There we are. Great. Cool. Thank you. Just an apology. If I'm doubling up, I did have some tech issues on my end. A couple of questions from my side. Just on the doubling of the core EBITDA pre-share-based payments, obviously, it's great to see another ambitious growth target there. I suppose if we think about the sort of, I mean, I suppose growth is never really linear in these types of businesses. How do you see that progressing over the next five years? And I think if I think about your product offering, are you sort of happy with the strategies that you have at the moment and you just think about scaling them out, or do you expect quite a few new strategies coming to this? And I suppose the second part of that question, if I understood correctly, it's a purely organic growth target.

What does that mean with regards to M&A? Should we read into this that it's slightly low on the priority list now? And then just final one in case I missed it, but any sort of thoughts, news on the sort of distribution partner potential going forward? That's all I got. Thanks.

Bernard Fairman
Co-founder and Executive Chairman, Foresight Group

Let me start off with a middle question. We've been crystal clear to investors that we will not make earnings dilutive acquisitions. At the minute, if you look at our consensus forward forecast on an EBITDA basis, I mean, we're selling it in high single figures. If you want to buy something, if you want to buy us equivalent in the private markets, you're looking at 15x, 16x, 17x, 18x. And so the opportunity to make significant acquisitions right now doesn't exist because there's this reverse arbitrage, if you will. I'm sure in due course that will change, but we are where we are at the minute. There are a couple of small non-earnings dilutive deals that we're currently looking at and may well do. But that's why you'll see that we've talked about growth purely in the terms of organic growth.

I mean, many people think organic growth is the best growth, and I think I tend to agree with that, but that's why we've got to that point. I think in terms of our funds and the funds that we offer, the point is here that we've got two tigers by the tail kind of simultaneously. One is the energy transition where there is, I think, not enough money in the world to finance it. In the last year, 2023, the world spent approximately $1.8 trillion on energy transition investment. The requirement, if we're to get to net zero by 2035, which in my opinion, there's no chance, is physically impossible, but the requirement was $4.8 trillion. So we were spectacularly as a world below where we need to be.

And that's true for the UK too, which is why I think that if you're us, the products that we're offering have got huge scalability. I mean, we clearly know what we're doing. We're producing results. We're making investments. We can scale up significantly in terms of money that we raise because there's no shortage of deals. I think that's also true in private equity. I mean, there's probably a doubling that we can do in our regional private equity strategy from where we are now. And you'll see in the next few weeks us opening another couple of offices in the UK as we raise more funds in the UK. But also there's the prospect in due course of transmitting, copying that strategy, if you will, in a continental market where we're already present, probably Italy, but maybe Spain.

So that's the opportunity to increase there what we're doing significantly. So I see no shortage of opportunity. You'll see us gradually kind of widening out our strategy, particularly in infra. Natural capital is an area that people, I think, are becoming increasingly interested in, and it's an area where we've already made a number of investments. And you'll know that we're buying back and bringing back private, if you will, our forestry business. I see a great opportunity to increase that, but also generally to, as investors get more comfortable with the space, generally to invest more in that space. And you'll see a natural capital fund from us in due course, I would think, over the next year or so.

But what with the hydrogen fund, the Australian business, the general move to net zero and the energy transition opportunities that present, there's plenty to go on and enormous markets. In terms of the actual progression that you mentioned at the start, so I think within FY25, FY26, years, we'll certainly be within the consensus range that we have as a business over those two years. But it's a little bit, I think in FY27 and beyond, we'll start to see a real step up. But why do I think that? Well, we're already starting to see the institutional inflows coming through. But the reality is that the real benefit from those, although we get an immediate benefit from the committed capital and the fee there, the fees really start to kick in on a much larger scale when you see deployment.

And so deployment takes a bit of time to filter through. So really, once that filters through in FY27 and beyond, then I think we'll see a real jump up. As we sit here today, I've got a high degree of confidence in the five-year target. And if anything, I'd like to think that we can overachieve on that.

Operator

Has that answered your questions, Jens, or is there still more outstanding?

Tom Mills
Equity Research Analyst, Jefferies

Yeah, no, that is helpful. Thank you very much.

Operator

Wonderful. There are no further questions. I'll now hand back to Bernard Fairman for closing remarks.

Bernard Fairman
Co-founder and Executive Chairman, Foresight Group

Well, thank you very much for attending. I hope we've been clear, and I hope our video presentation was clear. We genuinely think that the opportunity, if anything, is increasing in scope and scale, and we're gearing up accordingly, and we've got the resources, know-how, and 40 years of experience to build on. So thank you all very much. We hope you'll go off and vigorously buy the shares.

Operator

Thank you.

Bernard Fairman
Co-founder and Executive Chairman, Foresight Group

Thank you.

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