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Q2 25/26

Oct 28, 2025

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to Q2 & 1H FY26 Earnings Conference Call hosted by Adani Energy Solutions Limited. From the AESL side, we have the following on the call as main speakers: Mr. Kandarp Patel, CEO, AESL; Mr. Kunjal Mehta, CFO, AESL; Mr. Kapil Sharma, Business Head, Transmission; Mr. Pushpendra Bansal, Business Head, Smart Metering; Mr. Bhaskar Sarkar, Business Head, Cooling Solutions; Mr. Anupam Misra, Head Group Corporate Finance; Mr. Vijil Jain, Head IR, AESL.

As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star then zero on your touch-tone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Vijil Jain from AESL. Thank you, and over to you, Mr. Jain.

Vijil Jain
Head of Investor Relations, Adani Energy Solutions

Thank you so much. Hello everyone, warm welcome to the Q2 FY26 call. I hope you got a chance to go through the earnings material which was uploaded on the website and was also sent personally. Just to explain the flow of the call, we will start with an opening statement from the CEO, followed by questions and answers, and of course, closing remarks from the CFO. In case you have any questions, please feel free to start joining in the question queue so that we can better manage the Q&A. Thank you, and over to you, KP sir, for the opening statement.

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

Good morning and thank you to all investors and analysts for joining this Q2 call of Adani Energy Solutions Limited. Before I hand over to Kunjal for giving a quarterly operational and financial update and half-yearly update, I wanted to touch upon two or three important points. Those are essentially in relation to outlook, market, business, and sector outlook. So we currently have about INR 60,000 crore of order pipeline for transmission projects. Similarly, we have total INR 26,000 crore of revenue and INR 14,000 crore of CapEx of smart metering. And distribution we do every year about INR 16,000 to INR 18,000 crore of CapEx. In the first half, you might not have seen very significant uptake in EBITDA, though it's a fairly good number.

but the major contribution will come from the second half because we are poised to commission at least three transmission projects, which will be of the order of INR 12,000 crore. Similarly, we will do the CapEx in distribution. Normally, distribution CapEx happens in the Q2, so we'll see a lot of movement in distribution CapEx as well. and that gets capitalized immediately because that's the nature of CapEx in itself, basically a maintenance CapEx. Similarly, in smart metering, we have gathered a good amount of momentum. We have so far installed about 42.5 lakh meters in the first half, and we will cross one crore meter installation by end of year. so all in all, we will capitalize about INR 17,000-18,000 crore of CapEx, which will contribute about INR 2,800 crore of EBITDA on an annual basis. so you will see those numbers flowing in the next half year.

And similar kind of numbers will continue with growth every year for at least three, four years, basing on the order pipeline that we have. The other important thing that I wanted to highlight was there are two exceptional items in the financials. One, last year we had Dahanu, so when you compared the distribution business profitability and EBITDA, Dahanu was included. This year it is not there. The contribution of Dahanu EBITDA was about INR 92 crore. Similarly, in AESL profit, there was a one-time exceptional item last year of deferred tax of about INR 314 crore, which is not in the current first half. So when you compare, you can take care of that detail as well. Over to you, Kunjal.

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

Sure. So just giving you certain key highlights of the business for the Q2 or for the first half year, followed by certain key updates on the financial front. So in the first half of FY26, we successfully commissioned three transmission projects, which are Khavda Phase II Part A, Khavda Pooling Station, which we call as KPS-1 Pooling Station, and the Sangod Transmission Line. All these three were completed during the first half. With the recent project wins, now the company has a transmission ordering construction pipeline at about INR 60,000 crore and with a smart meter order book of INR 2.46 crore, which has a revenue potential of INR 29,000 crore. On smart meter business, our installation or deployment of the smart metering continues. And to today, now we have reached a total of 73 lakh meters which have been installed. Our Mumbai Utility, that is AEML, continues to generate surplus.

Based on that surplus, we continue to deliver the balance sheet of AEML. During the last quarter, we bought back $44 million of the USD dollar bonds. This is in line with our efforts to reduce our cost of capital and increase the debt maturity, which is currently 7.5 years. On the CapEx front, we have delivered a consolidated CapEx of INR 5,976 crore in the first half, which is a 1.4% increase over the previous financial year. Further, on the O&M part of the transmission business, our availability continues to be very robust, which is 99.7% in the first half year, and basis which we have earned an incentive income of INR 30 crore in Q2 and INR 59 crore in the first year, which is in line with what we have always earned based on the availability parameters in the transmission business.

In the distribution business, our distribution losses in AEML continue to be the best in class, and we have reported the lowest distribution loss of 4.30% in the first half of FY26. Because of the prolonged monsoon in the city of Mumbai, the energy sales or the energy consumption has a modest increase of 2% over the previous year. In the C&I business, that business continues to provide power solutions to various consumers. Today, both our Adani portfolio companies as well as with the external consumers were an aggregate load demand of currently around 717 MW, which we are going to service to the C&I consumers. Similarly, our cooling solutions also are getting some traction, whereby we are deploying India's largest district cooling facility in the Mundra region, and we are also supplying to the or deploying cooling solutions for our various external consumers.

We are currently totally implementing about 88,000 tons of refrigeration in the cooling capacity. In terms of the financial update, the total income rose to INR 13,793 crore, which is a 16% growth over the previous half year, largely due to stable operating performance in transmission and the distribution business and the increasing contribution from the smart meter business. Our total EBITDA, that is the consolidated EBITDA, has increased to INR 4,144 crore, which is a 13% increase on a year-on-year basis. Our consolidated PBT has grown to INR 1,404 crore, which is a 34% increase over the previous year. If you adjust the one-time MAT credit or the reversal of the deferred tax liability, which was there in the previous year, which is about INR 314 crore, our adjusted PAT has grown to INR 557 crore or INR 1,096 crore for the first half year, which is a 42% increase over the previous financial year.

So I would repeat is that if you exclude the one-time deferred tax reversal or the MAT credit reversal, which was there in the previous year, our adjusted PAT has grown 42% in the first half to INR 1,096 crore. I thought that's the key things which are there. So in terms of the business outlook, the sector continues to present strong growth potential both in the transmission business as well as in the distribution business, backed by stable regulatory regimes and the continuous reforms that we are seeing in the sector. I'll pause here in case we can now open the floor for the Q&A from everyone.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on the touch-tone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. The first question comes from the line of Mohit with ICICI Securities. Please go ahead.

Mohit Kumar
Research Analyst, ICICI Securities

Hi. Good afternoon, sir, and thanks for the opportunity. My first question is on the transmission pipeline. I think you mentioned 96,000 crore in the press release. Does it include both the HVDC, Khavda- Olpad, and there is one South Kalamb, or is it excluding both these HVDCs?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So it is excluding Olpad, but including South Kalamb.

Mohit Kumar
Research Analyst, ICICI Securities

And so, any update on the Olpad which you like to share or either status?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So Olpad. Yeah, yeah. So Olpad reverse auction happened. We were L1, and we are expecting a response from PFC. So probably it was because of holidays, but now we expect a response from PFC in the current week.

Mohit Kumar
Research Analyst, ICICI Securities

Understood. So my second question is on the smart meter. I think last year there had been no bidding in the first half, right? And there was one Tamil Nadu bid which was pending. And also in the press release, you're talking about 104 million smart meter, which is still pending. So have you seen any improvement in the tender bidding, or are there any other bid apart from Tamil Nadu which is up for tendering? And what is the status of Tamil Nadu bid?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So Tamil Nadu bid submission was concluded. The technical evaluation is going on. The other bids, especially Telangana and Karnataka, because they will have to get their metering program approved under RDSS. Earlier, they never submitted that proposal. I believe that they have now submitted it, and it is under approval. So the moment that approval comes in, then they will come out with a bidding.

Mohit Kumar
Research Analyst, ICICI Securities

So is it right understanding that earlier Karnataka was trying to do something on their own, and now they are trying to get it under RDSS? Is that right?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

Correct. Correct.

Mohit Kumar
Research Analyst, ICICI Securities

Understood. My last question, sir, on the commissioning pipeline for transmission. I think we're expecting on especially HVDC to get commissioned by October. Are you facing some kind of constraint or some kind of issues in general in the industry, maybe the right- of- way, blah, blah, blah? Can you just throw some light on that?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So, the right-of-way or.

Mohit Kumar
Research Analyst, ICICI Securities

In general, right?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

Yeah, yeah, so the right-of-way and ability of skilled manpower is the problem, but what I explained in the last call as well, we do a little different approach as far as right-of-way is concerned. While we use the government machinery and the power available under Section 68 and 164, but we also directly negotiate with the farmer, and we run that process parallelly.

As far as manpower is concerned, so now we have developed that kind of relationship with those EPC players. You must have seen that we work with a few chosen EPC players, and this year, we have taken a very unique initiative. We have started our training facility. It is going online from 1 November 2025 this year. We'll be training about 1,200 people for transmission line erection, and with that, all our requirements should be met. In fact, we will train those people and give it to our EPC partners.

Mohit Kumar
Research Analyst, ICICI Securities

Understood, sir. And particularly on the HVDC project commissioning date, sir, timeline, is it 25 December 2025 ?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So yeah, HVDC is all going perfectly all right. All approvals are there. All ROW issues sorted out. The critical work which is going on is underground cabling on that Vashi Creek, and we expect that to get commissioned somewhere in December or January.

Mohit Kumar
Research Analyst, ICICI Securities

Understood, sir. Thank you and all the best, sir. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Manish Somaiya with Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead.

Manish Somaiya
Managing Director, Cantor Fitzgerald

Good morning, everyone. Can you hear me okay?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

Yeah, my name is. Good morning.

Manish Somaiya
Managing Director, Cantor Fitzgerald

A couple of questions, KP and Kunjal. Can you elaborate on parallel licensing opportunities beyond Mumbai? What circles are you targeting, and what's the competitive landscape? That's question number one.

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

Yeah. So Manish, we as an AESL are open for both the routes of expanding into distribution, which is either privatization or parallel license. We applied for parallel license for Navi Mumbai, Mundra area, as well as Ghaziabad and Jewar district in UP. The regulatory process for Navi Mumbai and Mundra part is over. We are expecting orders from the regulatory commission very soon because all those proceedings have been done. So we expect some movement on parallel license from these two geographies. And as far as competition and parallel license is concerned, so parallel license is open for anyone. But in Mundra, nobody else has applied. In Navi Mumbai, the other players have also applied, but their process has just initiated. And practically, I believe that once you have two distribution companies, I think interest by a third distribution company will reduce significantly in particular geography.

Manish Somaiya
Managing Director, Cantor Fitzgerald

Okay. That's helpful. And then just turning to smart metering, I did see that the installation rate was down this quarter sequentially. Maybe if you can just quickly touch on that. And I'm not sure if it was because of the monsoons or the availability of talent in the field. But just on a big picture basis, you outlined a very significant untapped opportunity for smart meter in the country. So maybe if you can just kind of help us understand the addressable opportunity for AESL over the next three to five years. And from a market share perspective, what would be the constraints?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So Manish, you are right. The installation rate reduced in the last quarter as compared to the Q1 . But essentially, that was because of ugly rain continuing even till now. And geographies like Maharashtra, Uttarakhand, Assam, and even Bihar this year witnessed a lot of rain. That impacted the progress. But now we are catching up again. We have already reached to 20,000 installation as of now. We want to push it up to 30,000 installation per day. All the resources are lined up accordingly, and all the materials and manpower are available for achieving 30,000. As far as addressable market is concerned, there is about 10 crore smart metering opportunity that we think that will come in a year or so, essentially from Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Telangana, Madhya Pradesh, and Punjab. These are the main geographies from where we expect smart metering opportunity to come.

Manish Somaiya
Managing Director, Cantor Fitzgerald

And just lastly, KP, just on that, what do you think your share constraints might be? It seems to me that on the ground, your share is probably running higher than what you sort of realized in the initial go-round. So maybe if you can just touch on that, and then.

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

Yeah, yeah.

Manish Somaiya
Managing Director, Cantor Fitzgerald

Yeah, go ahead.

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

So Manish, our market share is about 18%-19% in terms of order. But our installation market share is about 23-24%. And we will continue to have that kind of better installation rate as compared to all other players. And as we add new geography, probably we will be able to increase both market share in terms of contract as well as in terms of installation.

Manish Somaiya
Managing Director, Cantor Fitzgerald

Okay. That's super helpful. And just lastly, quickly for Kunjal, leverage is at 4.4x at the end of Q2. And I think, KP, going back to your earlier comments, you mentioned that the earnings are going to be second-half weighted. So would it be fair to assume that the leverage by the end of the year should be lower, maybe closer to the lower end of your target?

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

Yeah, yeah. You are right, so basically, it would be in that range of around four times what we have always mentioned.

Manish Somaiya
Managing Director, Cantor Fitzgerald

Okay. Super. Well, congratulations again on a good quarter.

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

Yeah. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Puneet Gulati with HSBC. Please go ahead.

Puneet Gulati
Analyst, HSBC

Yeah. Thank you so much, and my first question is on the transmission side of the business. What do you see as a potential bidding pipeline for the second half of this year, and how aggressive are you likely to go in this phase?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So, Puneet, probably we will not be able to give you a very precise number for bidding pipeline for second half. But in the next one to one and a half years, the projects which have been identified by CTU and the central government are of the order of INR 90,000 crore. There could be addition from a few states as well, like Maharashtra. So yearly, about INR 80-90 thousand crore of bidding opportunity or pipeline will be there in transmission.

Puneet Gulati
Analyst, HSBC

Okay. And what share do you assume for yourself?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

Currently, we are operating about 25%, and we will like to continue to have that kind of market share.

Puneet Gulati
Analyst, HSBC

Understood. And on the cooling side, how is the response so far, and where else do you see the opportunity?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So, cooling, Puneet, it is not only. In fact, we spend a lot of time on creating market and awareness for the cooling solution because so far, it is not a very known concept in the Indian market. We have been interacting with a lot of players, including sector federations and other players. We see now a lot of traction on the cooling side as well. In the first half, we could also get an LOI from two third-party developers for developing district cooling plants. And we see a humongous potential as far as district cooling is concerned in India. So we'll continue to work on developing the market and making aware about the advantage of having district cooling solutions.

Puneet Gulati
Analyst, HSBC

Understood. And lastly, if you can talk about any updates on the UP side on privatization of DISCOM, what are the dates likely, and how big is the opportunity you see for yourself?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So there is no specific update from the UP side, but they continue to mention that they will come out with RFP very soon. So we are eagerly waiting for that. We believe that they had a few conversations with the regulatory commission. They had certain queries and suggestions. So probably they are incorporating it, and then they will come out with RFP.

Puneet Gulati
Analyst, HSBC

Okay. That's helpful. Thank you so much, and all the best.

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Nikhil Nigania with Bernstein. Please go ahead.

Nikhil Nigania
Director, Bernstein

Hi. Thank you for taking my question. My first question is on the distribution side. Good to hear an update on the parallel license area. But now there are draft electricity regulatory changes around. I wanted to hear your thoughts on how do you see this space evolve going forward in terms of new opportunity for AESL in distribution?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So, Nikhil, the new draft also says, and clearly, the intent of government is there that they wanted to increase private sector participation in distribution. They are, in fact, further proposing to provide enabling provision for second licensee. In fact, the current legal provision says that you have to create your own network when you become a second licensee. The draft amendment proposed that the second licensee can use the existing distribution network of the existing licensee as well. So it is clearly a good sign for the distribution sector, and it will create a lot of opportunity for private sector players.

Nikhil Nigania
Director, Bernstein

Got it. Understood. So in a way, is it fair to assume it could open up opportunities for you to enter new cities without having to deploy your own CapEx?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So Nikhil, our view is a little different. We might not use an existing network of a distribution company because we believe that the major differentiation between you and the incumbent distribution company would be reliability of supply and quality of services. Now, the moment you ride on the existing network, probably you might not be able to differentiate on those two aspects. So we might go ahead with our own network as it is provided in the current regulation.

Nikhil Nigania
Director, Bernstein

Understood. Very clear. My second set of questions on the transmission side. AESL has been winning quite a fair bit recently, especially in the HVDC projects. What would you say is the reason for that? Is it just that the competitors' hands are full, or is there something else which is the reason? And secondly, on transmission, you highlighted right-of-way as a challenge. But the March regulations were expected to ease that with higher compensation for right-of-way. But has that not been the trend? So these were two questions I had on transmission.

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So to answer your first question, probably I may not be able to comment as to why Power Grid is not able to take, but I can certainly comment on why we are in a position to take. We have been able to establish that kind of relationship with those major OEMs. And the last particular project, which was Khavda-Olpad, in fact, in this particular area, we are already doing four projects there. So we exactly know the terrain, the ROW challenges in this particular area. That is the reason why we have been able to take this HVDC project through bidding.

Nikhil Nigania
Director, Bernstein

Got it. And the second question, if you could answer it as well, right-of-way, the reason things have not improved despite higher compensation notes?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So right-of-way, all the required legal framework is now in place. So after last year's policy intervention from the Government of India, most of the states have notified their policy for right-of-way. Essentially, these policies are targeting to give fair compensation to the landholders. To use those policy framework, you have to go through that process of getting orders issued from collectors. That also involves public hearing, and sometimes that process takes time. So as I mentioned earlier in the call, what we do is we use both routes parallelly. We directly negotiate with the farmers, take a decision on the ground, and immediately implement it.

And also, wherever we have a problem of ROW, then we use that route, which is through the collector and collector order compensation. And if the situation worsens, then we use that state machinery and police protection for ROW. But it's basically a hybrid concept. We already don't depend on a one route because that could take a lot of time.

Nikhil Nigania
Director, Bernstein

Makes sense. Makes sense. The last question I had was, there's this news on Adani Group's tie-up with Google for a data center. Any role you in research for AESL also in this opportunity?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

Role in?

Nikhil Nigania
Director, Bernstein

The Google data center, Adani.

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Sorry, I couldn't. So probably we will have an opportunity for AESL in terms of providing energy solutions and timely connectivity because, like what we did last time as well for Microsoft when they were developing a data center, we created connectivity infra for them. Similarly, we will also have an opportunity of creating infra for connectivity and also provide energy solution to data center because they will certainly be very, very keen to have energy solution which is predominantly coming from a green power.

Nikhil Nigania
Director, Bernstein

Got it. Thank you. Those are my questions. Thank you for answering them.

Operator

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Love Sharma with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

Love Sharma
Executive Director, JPMorgan

Hi, Management. Thank you for the time. Just wanted to understand two things. I think you mentioned about the AEML's plan for the buybacks which you have done and the cash cycles you're running. Could you just give some broad numbers for AEML in terms of what is the debt outstanding currently, including any short-term debt which has been repaid or maybe increased? Or secondly, what kind of future buybacks we can think of on that line? And second question would be on the CapEx side. If you could just update for second half, what is the target across the different businesses?

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

Sure. So on the AEML debt position, so that company continues to deliver it. Last quarter, we did $44 million of bond buyback of GMTN bonds. Earlier, we did close to $49.5 million bond buyback in Q1 of the 2030 we did. And earlier, if you recall, we had done $120 million of bond buyback. So based on that, whatever surplus that company is generating, we would continue to go down that path of continuing to do the bond buybacks in AEML. Plus, you would notice that whatever short-term working capital also AEML had, so we had carried about 400-odd crore of short-term loan in AEML, that also got paid down during the first half year. So that business will continue to deliver based on whatever surplus that AEML has.

On the CapEx front, that company has roughly around 1,600 odd crore of CapEx planned, of which 575 has been incurred during the first half, and roughly around 1,000 would get incurred during the second half. Generally, you would know that it is always lopsided in the second half because the first three or four months, that is June, July, August, are predominantly monsoon months where the CapEx is not done during. So it's lopsided in the second half. So 1,600 would be the estimated CapEx for the full year for distribution AEML.

Love Sharma
Executive Director, JPMorgan

Yeah, that's right. So Pushpendra, this was only for distribution, right? How about for the AESL on consolidation maybe?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So total CapEx would be of the order of 17,000 to 18,000. 6,000 we have done. The breakup of 6,000 is 3,300 in transmission, 3,350, 700 odd crore in distribution, and 2,000 odd crore in smart metering. For the full year, we will do about 11,400, 500 in transmission, 1,600 in distribution, and 4,000 in smart metering. So in smart metering, we'll add about 2,000. In distribution, we'll add about 1,100 in the Q2. And in transmission, we'll add about 8,000 in the Q2.

Love Sharma
Executive Director, JPMorgan

Understood. Thank you, sir. Okay. So this is very useful. And one last question for me was, I think on the dollar bond side, we have this maturity coming up next year for the transmission 2026 bonds. Any thoughts currently of how are you planning to take care of that refinancing?

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

Yeah, yeah. So we are working towards it. And basically, we would like to refinance it. I mean, there are various sources. It could be both a mix of dollar bonds, or it could be a mix of rupee bonds. But we would refinance it much ahead of its maturity.

Love Sharma
Executive Director, JPMorgan

Okay. No, thanks, Kunjal. And in terms of pricing, could you indicate if we have to go for INR pricing, what kind of pricing you see currently for those assets?

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

So as you know, these are AA+ rated in the Indian market. So accordingly, it would get priced.

Love Sharma
Executive Director, JPMorgan

A rough idea, roughly maybe around should we think of 8%-9%-ish INR terms?

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

Yeah. Basically, currently, if you look at it, AA+ or AAA bonds are generally priced sub 8%. So in that region, it would get priced.

Love Sharma
Executive Director, JPMorgan

Okay. Wonderful. Thank you so much. Okay.

Operator

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Vishal Periwal with Bandhan AMC. Please go ahead.

Vishal Biraia
Equity Fund Manager, Bandhan AMC

Hi. A couple of questions. One is on the status of license in Navi Mumbai because public hearing was done and all the formalities were completed by MERC. So what is holding it back?

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

Can you be a bit louder? We couldn't hear you.

Vishal Biraia
Equity Fund Manager, Bandhan AMC

Yeah, yeah. Sorry. My question was on Navi Mumbai license area. The formalities by MERC, it seems, were completed in terms of public hearing and others. So what is holding back the license? Is there anything else that is pending? Processing.

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So now they have to issue the matter was closed for order. So now they have to issue an order against our application.

Vishal Biraia
Equity Fund Manager, Bandhan AMC

Okay. And what is the kind of CapEx that you foresee in this license area over the next few years once you get the license?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

Sorry, CapEx for Navi Mumbai?

Vishal Biraia
Equity Fund Manager, Bandhan AMC

Yes, sir.

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So we will have a CapEx of about INR 10,000 crore for Navi Mumbai entire area, which will span over about five years.

Vishal Biraia
Equity Fund Manager, Bandhan AMC

Okay. INR 2,000 crore per year will be the CapEx there, only in Navi Mumbai?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

Correct.

Vishal Biraia
Equity Fund Manager, Bandhan AMC

Per year. Okay. But that seems to be substantially higher, right? I mean, Mumbai CapEx itself is about INR 1,600 crore, though you will have to put out the network fully there, which is not here. But is there? I mean, what's the expectation of the industry?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So the density there is a little lower as compared to Mumbai. And the second is because we will have to fulfill that universal service obligation. What we have proposed is that we will bifurcate the entire area into 25 circles. And once we start investing into that circle, we will fully deploy network in that entire circle. So every customer will have access to our network in that particular area. Once we achieve the universal service in that entire circle, we will migrate to the second one. So therefore, the speed will be lower. But it is essential to ensure that universal service obligation is achieved circle-wise.

Vishal Biraia
Equity Fund Manager, Bandhan AMC

So what will be the mix of industry and commercial customers here, approximately?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So the commercial and industrial consumption there in Navi Mumbai currently is in excess of 50%. The rest is from small LT commercials and residential customers.

Vishal Biraia
Equity Fund Manager, Bandhan AMC

Okay. Okay, and on the transmission side, what will be the kind of project that you plan to commission this year, and what will be the addition to gross block that we should see in addition to the three projects that you've done in the Q1 for the balance six months? What should we see? Thank you.

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

In the next half, we will capitalize about INR 10,000 crore of CapEx, so at least we will commission three projects. We are trying to get fourth project also commissioned in the next quarter, but we'll at least commission three projects, and that will add revenue of about INR 1,700-1,800 crore.

Vishal Biraia
Equity Fund Manager, Bandhan AMC

Okay. Okay. Thank you very much. I'll come back and look here. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Dhruv Muchhal with HDFC AMC. Please go ahead.

Dhruv Muchhal
Equity Analyst and Fund Manager for Overseas Investments, HDFC AMC

Yeah, sir. Yeah, yeah, sir. Thank you so much. Sir, in the opening comments, you mentioned that the CapEx, I missed, CapEx or capitalization this year will be about 17,000-18,000 and revenue run rate of that, or EBITDA run rate of that, will be about 2,800, so this is the CapEx number, probably that gets capitalized over the next two years, and then the revenue run rate, then the EBITDA run rate will be realized. What do you capitalize this year? The EBITDA run rate for that would be how much, sir?

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

So this year, we'll capitalize in transmission projects close to around INR 15,000-odd crore, which will translate to additional tariff in the range of INR 1,800 or 1,900-odd crore, which is only in transmission business. Similarly, in case of AEML or distribution business, I mean, there is no offset of CapEx. Whatever incurred, CapEx is the capitalization. So INR 1,500-1,600-odd of CapEx will translate into a tariff or revenue of around INR 250-275-odd crore. And smart meter, based on its CapEx, will give INR 800-odd crore of additional revenues, EBITDA.

So that itself would translate, I mean, INR 1,800-1,900 for transmission, 250-230 for distribution, INR 800 for smart meters will give INR 2,800-3,000-odd crore of earnings from the INR 17,000-odd of capitalization that we will do in each of these years. And just to clarify, in that INR 1,800-INR 1,900 crore transmission number, the already commissioned projects?

Dhruv Muchhal
Equity Analyst and Fund Manager for Overseas Investments, HDFC AMC

You have commissioned three projects, yeah.

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

230 odd crore, so in total, INR 2,100 odd crore in transmission.

Dhruv Muchhal
Equity Analyst and Fund Manager for Overseas Investments, HDFC AMC

Okay. This was excluding. Okay. Perfect. Got it. So the second question was on the CapEx in the transmission business. So for the full year, you're expecting about 10,000, yeah, 10,000-odd crore, 11,000-odd crore CapEx. First half, you have done about 3,000. So that's about 7,000 for the remaining 2H. This is versus what?

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So first half was about.

Dhruv Muchhal
Equity Analyst and Fund Manager for Overseas Investments, HDFC AMC

3,300.

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

3,300?

Dhruv Muchhal
Equity Analyst and Fund Manager for Overseas Investments, HDFC AMC

3,300.

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

3,300.

Dhruv Muchhal
Equity Analyst and Fund Manager for Overseas Investments, HDFC AMC

3,300.

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

Next half, we will do CapEx of about.

Dhruv Muchhal
Equity Analyst and Fund Manager for Overseas Investments, HDFC AMC

7,000, 8,000.

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

7, 8,000.

Dhruv Muchhal
Equity Analyst and Fund Manager for Overseas Investments, HDFC AMC

Yeah.

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

And in terms of capitalization, we did about INR 2,295 crore of capitalization in the first half. And in the second, we will do capitalization of about INR 12,000.

Dhruv Muchhal
Equity Analyst and Fund Manager for Overseas Investments, HDFC AMC

12,000. Yeah. So the CapEx is a significant increase. So for the second half, you'll do about INR 7,000-8,000 crore in transmission CapEx versus last year, second half, you had done about INR 4,000 crore. So that's a significant jump in the CapEx run rate, and if I see 1H versus this year versus 1H last year, the jump is not as strong. So just trying to understand what's driving this is 1H last this year was weak because of monsoon and I don't know, right-of-way issues, and you expect things to resolve in the next second half. So just trying to understand what drives the confidence that this CapEx run rate can be achieved.

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So this year, you must have noted that we have started another four projects where now so all the approvals and other things are in place. So now you will see a lot of CapEx deployment in those newly started projects. And we will also continue to do CapEx in the projects which are already under construction, which are getting commissioned in the second half or in the first half of the next year. So because the number of projects has increased, and those projects will start to see less infusion of CapEx, and therefore, you see that number increasing significantly in the second half.

Dhruv Muchhal
Equity Analyst and Fund Manager for Overseas Investments, HDFC AMC

Got it. Got it. So basically, the momentum on projects is picking up, and hence, which is driving the CapEx also, the improvement in the CapEx.

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

Correct.

Dhruv Muchhal
Equity Analyst and Fund Manager for Overseas Investments, HDFC AMC

Got it. And so the other question was on probably a bit macro, but just trying to understand. So we are seeing broader electricity demand in India remaining very weak. For example, in October, the demand is at an India level, a month-to-date basis, is down by about 5-8%. And this includes the Diwali period also. So because you operate a lot of DISCOMs, on ground level, what are you seeing? Is it just purely weather? Is it? I don't know. I'm just trying to understand what's driving such weakness in demand.

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So in our view, the demand sluggishness this year is only because of the rain, which has not only widespread across the country, but the rain started from May, and it is still continuing. In fact, it was raining in the western India yesterday and today, and you must have seen that prediction of cyclone on the east coast, so the demand sluggishness in the country current year is only because of rain.

Dhruv Muchhal
Equity Analyst and Fund Manager for Overseas Investments, HDFC AMC

So even in Mumbai, for example, probably it's a bit difficult to disaggregate. But say, for example, if your commercial customers, I'm assuming they will not be as impacted by the season, or the demand trend is reasonably okay versus, say, for example, if you differentiate between domestic customers and.

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So, Mumbai, in the last couple of years, we see demand growth of the order of 5.5% to 6%. This year, you must have seen the number. The increase is only 2%. And that was only because of the weather.

Dhruv Muchhal
Equity Analyst and Fund Manager for Overseas Investments, HDFC AMC

Weather. Got it. Got it. Perfect. Got it. This is helpful. And so last question, you mentioned about the data center that the group has signed, and you can play a role in that. So can you quantify what is the monetizable opportunity for us here for this? Because what we hear is globally large CapEx numbers. So just wanted to understand what role can we play and what monetizable opportunity can we have for Adani Energy?

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's too early to put a number to any opportunity for that Google contract, which is there in data center. I mean, as we earlier mentioned, whatever demand would be there for transmission or substation requirement for that would be fulfilled by AESL. But currently, it's very early for us to put anything.

Dhruv Muchhal
Equity Analyst and Fund Manager for Overseas Investments, HDFC AMC

Got it. Sure. Okay. Great, sir. Thank you so much in all the respects.

Operator

Thank you. A reminder to all the participants that you may press star and one to ask a question. Next question comes from the line of Mahesh Patil with ICICI Securities. Please go ahead.

Mahesh Patil
Assistant VP, ICICI Securities

Yeah. Hi, sir. So my first question is on the smart meters. So out of the 73 lakh smart meters installed, how much smart meter quantity has been commissioned, the meters that have achieved operational goal?

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

So, out of 73 lakh meters which have been installed, the meter months which have been built are 279 lakh meters which have been built for this first half.

Mahesh Patil
Assistant VP, ICICI Securities

No, no. But what are the number of meters commissioned?

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

67 have been commissioned, fully commissioned.

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

So Manish, sir, what happens when you install the smart meter, you also have to then offer for a testing to distribution company. That usually happens every month. So you will see a difference of meter installed and commissioned of the order of installation equivalent to one month.

Mahesh Patil
Assistant VP, ICICI Securities

Okay. Got it. Got it. And sir, my second question is on the status of this Bhadla-Fatehpur HVDC project that we had won. If you can share some insights as to what the progress there.

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

So the reverse bidding concluded. We were declared lowest bidder. Now PFC has to run their process.

Mahesh Patil
Assistant VP, ICICI Securities

No, sir.

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

Bhadla-Fatehpur .

Mahesh Patil
Assistant VP, ICICI Securities

Sorry to interrupt. I'm asking about Bhadla-Fatehpur , the previous HVDC project.

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

Okay.

Mahesh Patil
Assistant VP, ICICI Securities

We have won, and now we are in.

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

So Bhadla-Fatehpur , we already got that SPV LOI. We have finalized all the contracts. In fact, the construction work has already begun at Bhadla land. We will also start transmission line erection activity in the next month itself.

Mahesh Patil
Assistant VP, ICICI Securities

Okay. Okay, sir, and sir, my last question, given the kind of CapEx that we are planning, is there any plan for a fundraise in the near future?

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

No, there is no such plan of any fundraise except for whatever debt which we have to take for the projects which we are under construction.

Kandarp Patel
CEO, Adani Energy Solutions

And probably refinance.

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

And of course, refinance.

Mahesh Patil
Assistant VP, ICICI Securities

Okay. Got it. Got it. Thank you. Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you. A reminder to all the participants that you may press star and one to ask a question. Next question comes from the line of Srinidhi with ASK Investment Managers. Please go ahead.

Shrinidhi Karlekar
Financial Analyst, ASK Investment Managers

Yeah. Hi. Thank you for the opportunity. A couple of questions on smart meters. So given high profitability in their business and accounting standards, would it be possible to share post-tax cash profit that we'll be making per meter per month? And the second question is, sir, across the entire portfolio, what sort of unlevered IRR you are likely to make?

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

Sure. So basically, the current tariff profile that our smart meter portfolio has, our current revenue per meter per month is in the range of about INR 105 to 109 per meter per month. That portfolio gives us close to around 80% to 85% EBITDA margins. So based on that, based on our current meters that we have installed, we have reported an EBITDA of around INR 243 crore and EBIT of INR 120 crore for this half year. So that's the thing. And basically, the current EBITDA margins and basically, the capital deployment in that smart meters, our internal returns are upwards of 20%-25% on an unlevered basis or probably on an unlevered basis.

Shrinidhi Karlekar
Financial Analyst, ASK Investment Managers

Okay. So unlevered also 22%- 25% ?

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

Correct.

Shrinidhi Karlekar
Financial Analyst, ASK Investment Managers

Okay. Yeah. Those are all my questions. Thank you for answering them in all the ways.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, as there are no further questions, we have reached the end of the question and answer session. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Kunjal Mehta for closing comments.

Kunjal Mehta
CFO, Adani Energy Solutions

Sure. No, I would thank each one of you for taking out the time for attending this call. In case of any clarification that you need, we are just a phone call away or an email away. Thank you once again for taking out the time.

Operator

Thank you. On behalf of Adani Energy Solutions, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us. You may now disconnect your lines.

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