Ladies and gentlemen, good morning and welcome to the Happiest Minds Technologies Limited Q3 FY 2026 earnings conference call hosted by Anand Rathi Share and Stock Brokers Limited. As a reminder, all participant lines will remain in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal the operator by pressing star, then zero on your touch-tone telephone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now hand the conference over to Mr. Shashwat Nayak from Anand Rathi Share and Stock Brokers Limited for opening remarks. Thank you, and over to you.
Thanks, Ray. Hi, good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us today on the Q3 FY 2026 earnings call of Happiest Minds Technologies Limited. On behalf of Anand Rathi, I would like to thank the management of Happiest Minds for giving us the opportunity to host this call. Today we have with us Mr. Ashok Soota, Chairman and Chief Mentor, Mr. Joseph Anantharaju, Co-Chairman and CEO, Mr. Venkatraman Narayanan, Managing Director, Mr. Ram Mohan, CEO, Infrastructure Management and Security Services, Mr. Sridhar Mantha, CEO, Generative AI Business Services, Mr. Praveen Darshankar, Company Secretary and Compliance Officer, Mr. Anand Balakrishnan, CFO, and Ms. Priyanka Sharma, Head of Investor Relations. I will now hand it over to Priyanka Sharma for the safe harbor statement and to take the proceedings forward. Thank you, and over to you, Priyanka.
Thank you, Shashwat. Good morning to all the participants on the call. Welcome to this conference call to discuss financial results for the third quarter ended December 31st, 2025. I'm Priyanka Sharma, Head of Investor Relations. We hope you have had an opportunity to review the earnings release we issued yesterday evening. Let me quickly outline the agenda for today's call. Ashok will begin by sharing his perspective on the business environment and our results. Joseph and Venkat will then discuss our financial performance and operational highlights. Following that, we will open the floor for questions. Before we begin, let me read the safe harbor statement. During this call, we may make forward-looking statements. These statements reflect the environment we see as of today and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. We do not undertake to update these statements periodically.
With that, let me now hand it over to Mr. Ashok Soota.
Thank you, Priyanka. And good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. When we spoke last quarter, we had highlighted that our 10 strategic transformations were beginning to deliver visible and measurable results. And before I get into all of that, I want to take cognizance of a recent announcement on AI which has created turbulence in global markets for software companies. I want to assert that this development is an opportunity and not a threat for Happiest Minds, and we believe also for other IT services companies. You need to be here, you can leave me to do this. And in many ways, this reinforces the strategic choices we have been making. In Q3, we have taken the next step forward in our strategic journey by launching AI First, as I've always, as our 11th strategic transformation.
This is a structural shift on how Happiest Minds builds, delivers, and scales value in an AI-driven world. This transformation is itself supported by 11 strategic programs. While the foundations, talent, platforms, and governance were built over the last several quarters, the outcomes are now becoming visible in customer engagement and execution. Before I speak about the environment, let me briefly touch upon the performance in Q3. We have had 2.4% Q-over-Q growth and 10.7% year-over-year, and for the nine months, growth stood at 10.2%. This reflects steady execution, even as we continue to invest heavily in our AI capabilities and reinforce our confidence in the four-year 10+% revenue growth commitment we outlined last quarter. A key enabler of our AI First strategy is really our AI services delivery platform which is already being used by customers to move initiatives from pilots to production.
We plan to take this platform to multiple customers so that this will help them reduce their own time to market. Across the organization, we are seeing growing demand for AI embedded into workflows, intelligent agents, and governed platforms that enterprises can deploy with confidence. We now have 32 Gen AI and Agentic AI use cases that have moved from prototype with several scaling into production. To summarize, AI First is already influencing how customers engage with us and how we deliver. It builds naturally on the earlier transformations we have undertaken and positions Happiest Minds very well for the next phase of growth. An inevitable question that arises from the above is, what is the difference this is going to make to the growth of Happiest Minds? When we announce our Q4 results, we will give you these numbers.
It's too early for us to do that now, and we expect to show significant increase in the guidance we have been giving over and above the 10% we have committed for four years. With that, I will hand it over to Joseph to talk about the business environment, customer traction, and outlook.
Thank you, Ashok. Good morning, everyone. In Q3, we saw customer conversations becoming more decisive. Enterprises are moving beyond experimentation and are increasingly focused on embedding AI into core workflows and platforms where the business impact is clear and scalable. This shift is reflected in our Q3 and nine-month performance, with current currency revenue growth and EBITDA margins remaining within our guided range. The demand environment remains selective but increasingly intentional as they prioritize initiatives where the business case is well-defined. Automation of workflows using Gen AI and Agentic AI, AI-led productivity, and modernization of core platforms are seeing traction as enterprises focus on measurable outcomes and faster time to value. As a result, AI is now an add-on in customer conversations. Increasingly, discussions are centered on how AI can be embedded into core workflows and platforms, governed effectively, and scaled across the enterprise.
This is where our AI First positioning is making a tangible difference. An important dimension of this shift is how customers are approaching modernization and productivity at scale. Many are now looking to apply AI to core applications and platforms that were traditionally difficult to modernize due to complexity, legacy dependencies, and execution risk. In this context, our Agentic AI approach, which combines coding agents with human developers in a hybrid delivery model, is resonating well. This enables customers to address technology debt in a more cost-efficient manner and lower-risk manner by delivering high productivity improvements. We are seeing interest in this approach not only for enterprises but also from private equity firms and their portfolio companies. During the quarter, we saw several AI advances that reflect this shift, including Gen AI-driven vendor compliance and automation for a global FMCG client, enterprise-wide roadmap and reference architecture for a U.S.
insurance provider, AI-powered sales and code management solutions for premium retailers in Australia and ANZ, AI-led cloud optimization for a U.S. healthcare BPO, and digital and AI-driven transformation initiatives for leading academic institutions in Asia and India. A common theme across these engagements is scale and repeatability. These are not proof of concepts. They are designed as platform-led or reusable solutions that can be deployed across multiple customers with similar requirements. Let me touch briefly upon how this is reflecting in our BUs. PDS continues to be our largest business, anchored around product engineering and platform modernization, with AI increasingly embedded into core engagements. IMSS continues to benefit from demand for AI-enabled infrastructure management, cloud optimization, and automation-led efficiency initiatives. GBS and AI services saw strong momentum, with revenues growing close to 50% quarter-over-quarter as customers moved decisively from pilots to production deployments.
From a geographic standpoint, the U.S. remains a large market with continued traction across other geographies. From a vertical perspective, BFS and healthcare-led growth this quarter, with industrial showing a modest uptick while the rest of the portfolio remained broadly stable. Recent deal wins and the pipeline, which showed a big jump during the quarter, provide greater visibility and potent wealth for the upcoming quarters. At an industry level, Q3 saw resilient but selective growth, with digital and AI-led programs holding up better than discretionary spend across the IT services sector. Looking ahead, while the environment is likely to remain selective, our focus remains clear: AI-led growth, deeper client engagement, and disciplined execution. AI First approach positions Happiest Minds well as customer priorities continue to evolve. With that, I'll hand it over to Venkat to walk you through the financial and operational performance.
Good morning, everybody. This is Venkat. Thank you, Joseph. Good morning, everyone. I'll take you through the financial and operational performance for the quarter that just ended, followed by a brief update on our nine-month performance as well. For the quarter, revenue stood at $65.7 million, showing a growth sequentially and year over year in constant currency of 1.2% and 7.1%, respectively. In rupees, revenues were INR 588 crores, up 2.4% sequentially and 10.7% on a year-over-year basis. Total income for the quarter stood at INR 604 crores, growing at 1.4% QOQ and about 8.9% YOY. EBITDA was INR 123 crores, translating to a margin percentage of 20.4% compared to the 20.2% in Q2. This range of 20.4%-20.2% is well within our guided range of 20%-22%. Operating margin for the quarter improved to 17.4%, that's 40 basis points sequentially from 17%.
Our utilization for the quarter was 82% and the highest in recent times. Margin expansion was thanks to the favorable foreign currency and improved profitability in the GBS segment. These gains were despite fewer working days in the quarter and a forex loss of INR 6.2 crores. Profit before tax for Q3 stood at INR 54.2 crores, while profit after tax was INR 40.3 crores. This number takes into account the one-time impact of the new wage code, which is a one-time charge of INR 22.3 crores.
So if you really want to look at our numbers, adjusted PAT, which is PAT adjusted for the non-cash acquisition costs and exceptional items, which includes the charge for the new wage code, was at 11.6% compared to the 11% in the previous quarter. So a real depiction of our numbers is essentially the adjusted PAT, which is what I'm drawing your attention to.
Overall margin improvement underscores sustained operating efficiencies and disciplined cost management that we follow. For the nine months ended December 31, 2025, revenues were $193.2 million, showing a year-over-year growth of 10.2%. We are keeping to our double-digit growth percentage of 10.2% in dollar terms. In rupee terms, revenues were INR 1,711 crores, up 12.8% year-over-year. EBITDA for the nine-month period stood at INR 367 crores, with a margin of 20.6%. Profit before tax was INR 204 crores, and profit after tax was INR 152 crores, both impacted slightly by the one-time wage code cost that I talked about earlier. However, adjusted PAT, which is, again, PAT adjusted for the non-cash costs coming from acquisitions and the one-time wage code impact, for the nine-month period stood at INR 208 crores compared to INR 195 crores in the previous year.
Operationally, as highlighted, utilization improved to 82% in Q3, reflecting better deployment and improved execution discipline and the scaling of our AI-led engagements. Attrition on a trailing 12-month basis stood at 17.4% and largely stable. DSO increased to 92 days from 87 in the previous quarter, and we remain focused on collections and billing discipline. The idea is to bring that back down to the 85-day number, and that's where we'll be focusing our efforts on. Headcount at the end of the quarter stood at 6,548 employees, supported by a strong offshore delivery model. Our return ratios remain healthy, with ROCE at 22% and ROE at 12%. Looking ahead, our priorities remain unchanged, delivering 10% + percentage on revenue growth in constant currency and maintaining EBITDA margins in the 22% range. This is for the current financial year.
Aligned to our AI First strategy, we plan to grow our AI, Gen AI team to 1,000 Happiest Minds by the end of FY 2027 while maintaining financial discipline in the process. With that, I will hand it over to Sridhar to conclude and share more details on our AI First approach.
Thank you, Venkat. Very good morning, everyone. Q3 represents a very important inflection point for our generative AI business services and AI. As industry is gaining more confidence about the use cases and how to derive ROI leveraging generative AI and subsequently Agentic AI, more and more use cases are moving beyond into production-grade deployments, with many of them scaling across multiple customers and verticals, creating repeatability and operating leverage. Also, we are working on and delivering multiple end-to-end digital solutions, and these are primarily driven by the AI features that are on the top of the digital platforms and the digital infrastructure. Our AI services delivery platform has been central to this progress, enabling faster movement from concept to production while improving delivery productivity and governance. Following a successful healthcare solution deployment, the platform is now being scaled across industries.
The platform covers frameworks, tools, and agents that cover an entire spectrum of our service delivery, including agentic software development, modernization and tech debt reduction, data engineering, cybersecurity, infrastructure management, etc., leveraging AI, and also this platform helps in implementing Agentic AI solutions faster. We are delivering AI assistants embedded into workflows, domain-specific co-pilots, AI-native modernization of legacy systems, and AI-powered operations across IT, sales, and support. Importantly, GBS turned profitable this quarter, reflecting improved execution discipline. Our focus going forward is very clear: scale responsibly, deepen reuse, and ensure AI delivers measurable business outcomes for our customers. That concludes the management commentary. We will now be happy to take your questions.
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touch-tone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Participants are requested to use their handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. Ladies and gentlemen, a reminder: if you wish to ask a question, please press star and one. We take the first question from the line of Gaurav Rateria from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Hi. Thank you for taking my question. My first question is on the Generative AI deals that you talked about.
Can you please speak up a little?
I hope I'm audible now.
Very well, very well.
Yeah. My first question is on the generative AI deals and services that you talked about. Just want to understand, from an enterprise context, are these completely new areas of spend, or are these the same spend they would have done in a different manner? But because of new technology, they are kind of redirecting and repivoting and doing it in a different manner. So is it a net new? Is it just a repivot of something they would have done earlier? My second question is on what are the various engagement models that you have on some of these repeatable platforms that you talked about? Are these more like license-based solutions that you are selling? Are these a fixed-price project? Are these based on certain outcomes that the client is achieving, and based on that outcome, you are going to get paid?
Or is it still a plain vanilla effort-based project? Thank you.
Sure. This is Sridhar, and I'll take the first question. And second question, Joseph, will address. And regarding the first question, of course, for quite some time, we have been seeing a lot of things that were happening in the Gen AI space because the clients were not really clear about either the use case definition or the ROI. Such prototypes and POCs were generally done by scratching some component of the budget from somewhere. However, as Joseph and Ashok mentioned, in the last two quarters, including the current quarter, we started seeing more and more customers that are extremely clear about their entire roadmap and what kind of Agentic AI foundation and the platform they want to build, what kind of use case they want to create.
And these roadmap projects are very clearly part of their overall budget definitions and having more of 1-3 years kind of roadmaps. So the answer shortly is, of course, earlier, it used to be more of scratching the budget here and there, but nowadays, we are seeing more and more large initiatives well-intended as part of their overall budget.
And just to add to that, Gaurav, the other area that we are seeing is when you look at many of these platforms and applications that enterprise and even SaaS providers have built, there's a level of tech debt that they've incurred over a period of time, which either for reasons of the risk involved, if it's an old enterprise application, or if it's a SaaS provider or a company that is looking at its bottom line, they may not undertake this because of the cost. And that is being enabled by your Agentic AI approach, where you can deliver a huge improvement in productivity. That will be a new spend. And we are in discussion with a few customers on this. We'll be able to report more, I think, by next quarter. We are very, very hopeful on that.
Now, in terms of the various engagement models that you talked about, we are looking at multiple areas. One of them is looking at how do we take these platforms or solutions. If you look at Aadhaar or Insurance- in- a- Box, we've embedded Agentic AI. We're looking at a couple of platforms in the education space and the healthcare space. Our expectation is that we will be able to get subscription or direct license revenue. The second that we're looking at is how do we take some of these platforms, including the AI delivery platform that Sridhar and Ashok alluded to, and how do we package this into a solution and deliver it to customers and look at whether these can be repeatable solutions so that the selling process, the presale, and the delivery gets optimized, and we can manage our gross margins better.
The third is obviously fixed-price projects. In some cases, whether it's when you're modernizing some of these applications or taking on new Agentic AI and Gen AI-based features, we'd be able to do it in a fixed-price manner as long as the customer is clear on what the outcome should be. If they're in an ideation phase, then it becomes a little bit more challenging. The other area that we are very actively considering because it would allow us to capture more value is outcome-based. Here, there's quite a bit of ideation going on internally as to how we can take this to customers. We need to think this through, but we have our initial thoughts, and we are bouncing it off customers and sensing them out to evolve this approach. Yeah.
Just to add on that, Gaurav, our Ellips platform for the infrastructure management has got AI helps infused in it, and so does our security platform, which is SecAI Genie, which has got AI completely infused in terms of threat management and MDR. Now, both these platforms help in shared services as well as complete managed services, thereby adding value. And these are not just routine vanilla services which you're going to provide, but it includes AI-based operations which actually benefit the customer in terms of cost saving as well as improved service quality.
This is very comprehensive. Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you. We take the next question from the line of Aditi Patil from ICICI Securities. Please go ahead. Aditi, please unmute your line and proceed with your question.
Hello. Am I audible? Hello?
Yes, please go ahead.
Yes, Aditi, you are.
Yeah. Thank you for the opportunity. My first question is on the healthcare vertical. So it has grown at a healthy pace for the last three quarters. Can you share more color on this? What is driving growth with service lines, markets, and client subsegments? And how is our pipeline in this vertical? And also update on the you had mentioned in the 10-point transformation plan about a healthcare out-of-the-box solution. So update on that.
Sure. See, one of the areas that we are seeing where spend is holding up well, Aditi, is the healthcare space. And you'll also notice that BFSI has demonstrated good growth during the quarter. In healthcare, we saw an uptick across geos as well as across various subsegments of healthcare. So we have customers in India, in Europe, and in the US ramping up during the year. We also had a couple of new logos that we were able to close in healthcare. Some of the companies that have contributed to this growth, one of them is a healthtech company based out of India where we've seen they're building a platform for their delivery and for their business. And we've finished the discovery ideation phase, and we've gotten to the actual buildout.
This includes Gen AI at the core of the platform, and that is contributing to some of the growth. The other area that we are looking at is a large pharma company that had ramped down in the second quarter to some extent. We saw them ramping up again. That's also contributed to the growth. One of our large customers, which has a marketplace for medical supplies, they started off a couple of initiatives which ramped up during the quarter, and that's where a lot of the growth has come. We're also working with a couple of medical research institutions on bioinformatics and using AI for optimizing some of their research activities. We saw that contributing to the revenue. In terms of the healthcare platform that we talked about, I think we have one platform that's ready. The Multi-Omics platform.
As we speak, we are running our go-to-market campaigns on this platform. We have a few prospects that have evinced interest. We are in the process of figuring out how do we package this platform and work with these customers. So it's looking quite positive. There's a second healthcare platform that is still in the ideation phase that will take maybe another quarter or two for us to get clarity on. But the Multi-Omics platform is something that we are already going to market with, Aditi.
Okay. Got it. That color is helpful. My second question is on the Hi-Tech vertical. So can you also let us know I mean, was it mainly because of furlough that we saw a QOQ decline? And what is the outlook on this vertical?
Sure. So there are a couple of reasons that we saw a drop in this vertical. One of the customers that we've been working with for the last 1.5 years, which was more in a startup phase, we have completed the development of the product for this customer. It's a U.S.-based customer. So the team ramped down as the customer tries to take this to market and sell the product and figure out the viability of the product in the market. Our hope is that once they're able to get their go-to-market going, we will see some revenues come back. This is a risk when we work with some of the early-stage or startup kind of companies.
We also were working with the Airports Authority of India, providing support on the platform that we had built for them. So that support contract came to an end. So both of these have contributed to the drop in Hi-Tech. And going forward, what we expect to see is revenues to stabilize and hopefully demonstrate growth in the coming quarter, Aditi.
Aditi, does that answer all your questions?
Hello? Hello?
Yes, please proceed.
Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Go ahead. Yeah. I just have two more questions. So the third question is in terms of the renewals. Some of the peers have highlighted that clients are asking for productivity ask or higher pricing reductions. So are we seeing that more in Hi-Tech vertical? And overall, how have been our renewals?
Sure. If you look at our repeat business, that's stayed around the same, Aditi. So that's one barometer that I would use. But you made a point that customers are demanding a decrease in rate. See, in our case, what we are seeing is that customers are driving, and we are, in many cases, proactively going and advising to customers how they can use various productivity tools to improve their quality, to increase their productivity, output, throughput. And I believe that that would be the right approach to take for us, to be proactive about it. And that's what our team has been doing. And what we're seeing customers come back with is new additional features, tech debt that they have that can be managed by the same team so that the throughput increases. And we've not seen any customers coming back and ramping down because of productivity increases.
At times, a program could end up coming to a logical conclusion. Therefore, like I mentioned with the startup in the Hi-Tech vertical, that we are seeing, but we are not seeing any customers come back. In fact, a few of the CTOs that I met with in Q3, they're very categorical about this point that be proactive and drive adoption and usage of productivity tools. Don't worry about rampdowns based on the increase in productivity. Where we have managed services of fixed price, we will share the productivity improvements, whatever benefits we get, with the customers. That's the approach that we plan to take.
Okay. Got it. And my last question is on so what is the threshold for TCV above which you mentioned the deals in your press release? What is the criteria of putting deals in the press release?
TCV. In the press release. Press release? But I think we've used a mixture of factors and criteria, actually, Aditi. Some of them are you would look at you'd see they're more of discovery kind of work where the ACV could be lower, but the follow-up work would be higher. But what we've tried to highlight is deals that are large in size as well as interesting work that we've done that can lead to more follow-up work or that can lead us to other customers based on this work.
Okay. So you don't follow a minimum threshold of a deal TCV above which you put it in the press release?
The minimum threshold is $250, but you'll see U.S. dollars, but you'll see deals that are multi-million. You could also see deals that are $300 or $400, which are more consulting and discovery-oriented. I just want to give you that range. Minimum is $250 if that's what you're looking for.
Okay. Okay. Got it. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for answering all the questions.
Thank you. We take the next question from the line of Anand Sodhani from Sodhani Securities Limited. Please go ahead. Anand, please unmute your line and proceed with your question.
Yeah. I'm muted.
Anand, are you there?
Yes. I'm here. I can count you.
Yeah. Please go ahead. You may have to speak a little longer.
Yeah. Yeah. Good morning to all the management of HMT. I would like to first congratulate you on delivering such a wonderful set of results for this quarter. So I have three questions for Mr. Ashok Soota. There have been recent reports that Mr. Soota has been exploring a stake sale. So I wanted to understand the rationale behind the stake sale. And is he really exploring the stake sale? Or if he has, then what's the rationale that since the share price of HMT is at the 50-day close and it has corrected almost 50% in the last one year? One-sided slide has been there since the last one year. The last time, Soota, we had sold stake at around INR 850, 6% stake. And since then, it has corrected to almost half till now. So what's the rationale behind selling a stake at such low levels?
Very muffled.
Yeah. Sudhani, it was quite muffled, your line. But if I were to repeat, you wanted to know about Mr. Soota.
Is Ashok G?
The news?
Yeah. Yeah. Ashok, is the news coming correct, or is it just a rumor in the market? Is he planning?
Yeah. It's.
I also.
Is it correct, or is it a rumor? Yeah. Absolutely. I must tell you one aside just for you to understand where I am. If you see a whole, whether it is a press release or an earnings call or a press conference that we'll have now, we are completely AI-focused. And you may have incidentally seen yesterday, Mr. Chandrashekar in TCS is saying, "I'm going to start getting back into operations." So he's now saying, "I'm going to get back into looking after a lot more into TCS simply because of the importance of the change." Now, we have launched a major program, which I am leading here along with Joseph, and the whole team is here to work with this. That change in itself has 11 strategic programs. Make no mistake. I'm here to completely see it through, and there's no change.
Okay. Thanks. I can answer the first question. My second question is with respect to the timeline of Happiest Health. I think two, three years back, we had said that we'll be launching the IPO, planning to launch the IPO of Happiest Health somewhere in 2027, if I'm not mistaken. So is it on track?
What's the timing to launch the IPO? Well, I wish I knew that. It's a very young company. Its revenues at the moment are actually rather sad, but it'll change in the sense it's not a Happiest Health call. So let me still say it will be a very differentiated, completely integrated healthcare and wellness company of a type which doesn't exist in this country. And just one of the segments that we have, for example, which we work with clinics which are out of the hospital model, and they're specialty clinics. So that's the beauty of the thing. And we have, at the moment, only six clinics. But within 12 months, we'll have 26.
Okay. So I mean, is the IPO on track?
Have you said that?
For FY 2027?
I would imagine IPO could be easily six years.
Yeah. IPO would be easily six years, is what Mr. Soota is saying.
From six years from now? Hello? Oh, I see this. Hello?
Yeah. Anand, sorry.
Sorry. I heard that the IPO will be six years from now. We have seen an IPO at six years from now, from 2027?
Yeah. That's the thought. But like Mr. Soota said, that's more for Happiest Health. But yes. Yes.
Okay. Okay. Fine. That's it. Thank you so much for answering the question.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We take the next question from the line of Vinesh Vala from HDFC Securities. Please go ahead.
Yeah. Hello, sir. Thanks for giving me the opportunity. So my question was on the retail vertical. So the retail vertical, which is growing on sequential basis from last nine quarters, is showing a decline in this quarter. So is that related to the furloughs, or is there any issues which we are facing? Because the industry was facing the issue. Industry was slowing down, but we were growing in this vertical. So is there any concern?
No. Actually, I think there are two or three reasons that have resulted in this drop. There's a very small element of furloughs, actually, maybe around, the drop was $500,000 from Q2 to Q3. And maybe around $70,000 of that would be furloughs. Now, one of our large customers, they don't do a 12-month billing cycle. They use a four-week billing cycle. So we get 13 billing cycles in a year. And in Q2, we got an extra billing cycle, which resulted in around $250,000 of extra revenues, which kind of got normalized in Q3. And that contributed a fair bit. So again, one of our large beverage manufacturer customers, we completed the automation project that we had taken up for them. It completed in the end of Q2, early Q3. And we're just starting follow-up work in Q4.
My belief is that in Q4, you'll see an uptick and revenues moving up in RCM. Overall, the pipeline and the customers that we are signing up in this space is quite encouraging. I don't see any rampdown out here or a drop, actually, Vinesh.
Okay. Okay, sir. Yeah. Yeah, sir. So my next thing was on the EdTech Vertical. So EdTech Vertical also, it is declining. So do we expect that vertical to be stabilizing in FY 2027, or still some rationalization of clients and everything is there in this vertical?
So Vinesh, as you rightly observed, this is a vertical that has shown a decline in the last few quarters. It used to be the largest vertical, and now it's our third largest vertical. And one of the reasons is we've had a heavy exposure to the higher-ed space in this vertical. And that whole space, whether it's in the U.S. or across the globe, is going through a very challenging period. I'm talking about the higher-ed tech space, right? And in the U.S. especially, universities are having a challenge. But however, having and I believe the customers that we have right now, we are reaching a point where probably the various risks that were there, they are mostly played out is what I believe. And I think FY 2027, we should see things stabilizing.
Having said that, there's a new area that we have identified in the education space, pursuing institutions and universities based on some of the work that we are doing with a couple of universities as we speak, one in Southeast Asia and another one in India, both very well-known leading institutions. And the underlying opportunity out here is some of the internal challenges these university institutions are facing because of data silos. And more importantly, student retention, student attraction is a huge need out here. And AI is enabling them to do this in a more cost-effective manner. And I believe that our AI-first strategy overlaid on our educational domain depth and the engagements that we are currently pursuing, including a couple in North America, gives us the opportunity to take some repeatable solutions and maybe even a platform-based approach to these customers.
I believe that in FY 2027, we should see a reversal of the downward trend that we saw in the EdTech space.
Okay. Thank you. Thanks, sir. My next question was on the deal pipeline. So as you highlighted that there is a pricing pressure, but do we foresee any change in tenure in the deal, whether deals are becoming shorter or something like that? And how is the pipeline, overall pipeline?
As I mentioned in my commentary, Vinesh, I and the rest of the leadership team are very encouraged by the increase in the pipeline. There was a significant increase in the pipeline. The increase has been more in some of the larger deals. Contrary to the point you made, we are actually seeing quite a few deals that are three to four years tenure. And typically, we work more as an external engineering team to our customers. And so we get one-year visibility. We are now taking on programs, whether it's providing support for some of your platforms or setting up a QA, testing center of excellence for a large bank in Muscat. We're looking at more longer-term engagements of higher value. That is what is driving the increase in pipeline.
Okay. Thank you. Thanks. That's all from my side.
Thank you. We take the next question from the line of Sucrit D. Patil from Eyesight Fintrade Pvt Ltd . Please go ahead.
Good morning to the team. I have two questions. My first question to Mr. Joseph is, looking ahead, how do you see Happiest Minds balancing between scaling digital transformation services, accelerating AI-generated investments, and protecting the profitability? As client demands and competition evolves, what will guide your decisions on which of these areas should get the strongest focus in the coming quarters? That's my first question. I'll ask my second question after this. Thank you.
Sure. So as Ashok and Sridhar mentioned, our largest focus area will be the AI for strategy and the 11 programs that Sridhar talked about, making sure that we implement them. Ashok will be driving this with support from all of us, this initiative. And I believe that if we can execute on this initiative, it will ensure that our growth picks up from the current 10% that we've given and that we'll be able to accelerate it further. Now, some of the areas that we will be looking at actively is the AI delivery platform. That will be an area that we will be making investments. I think there's a huge opportunity around tech debt and modernization.
As I mentioned in my commentary, we are seeing quite a few customers expressing interest in this space to address some of the issues that they had put off for quite some time. I think that can be, again, a huge opportunity. Making sure that we build repeatable solutions with AI at the core will allow us to take some of these use cases. We are on 32 use cases in the GenAI space. It will allow us to take these use cases to a larger set of customers in a more repeatable manner. I think these will be the focus areas for FY 2027. Related areas, how do we make sure that all of this happens in the context of more increased domain increasing the involvement of domain understanding into these AI solutions?
Thank you. My second question to Mr.
I had an additional point.
Sorry. Sorry. Yeah. Please. Please go ahead.
Just one minute, Sucrit. I just wanted to add an additional point. I think since you called out the digital transformation, I wanted to highlight one point that when we talk about the AI-first, you visualize it more like the tip of the iceberg. What we don't see under the water is the complete set of the digital technologies in the sense that cybersecurity, cloud, and all those technologies there. We have done investments, and we have been the leader in the digital space. That continues to be the foundation on the top of which we'll be building the AI-first strategy.
We started seeing similar kind of results in the marketplace in the sense that large multimillion dollars in the EdTech space, which we talked earlier, that has a larger component on the digital and then close to a $1 million on the AI and generative AI to be added on the top. So they go hand in hand is what I want to call out.
Thank you very much. Can I proceed to my second question?
Yes. Yes, please. Yes, please.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. My second question to Mr. Balakrishnan is, as Happiest Minds plans over the next two quarters, what financial signals or metrics will be most important in your mind for guiding decisions on cost control, cash flow management, and capital allocation for specifically AI and digital investments? How do you see these levers shaping the company's ability to protect the margins and boost the profits as IT services business scales? Thank you.
So Vinesh, yeah. This is Venkat.
Yes, sir. One quick question. Yeah. This is Anand here. So yeah, thank you for this question. Yeah, the margin pressures will continue to be there. But if you've seen from a gross margin perspective, we are kind of up in the last quarter. We will continue to work on those. Utilizations have improved from about 80% to 80%, and we're kind of trying to push that as well. Liquidity is also kind of gone up to about INR 1,300 crores. So that is something that is there. So the only thing that we are focused on working on is the DSO, which is currently kind of gone up. But I think it's kind of stabilized in the month of January. So I think we will continue to do that.
We seem to be doing well in what we are doing in the last couple of quarters from a margin, from a liquidity standpoint. We will continue to do that in the coming quarters too. Does that answer your question? Sucrit, just to add, one of the areas that all of us will be looking at very closely is we've made some investments in terms of NN sales, building vertical capabilities. I think we need to keep those investments at the current level. If we need to make investments that will lead to long-term growth, we will do that. But I think what we'll need to do is to ensure that we get more return on these investments.
As we speak, even in the last quarter in our commentary, we had mentioned that we had 30 new logos for the first half of the year, which is the highest that we've had. This is all based on the investments we've made in the NN sales team. I believe that in FY 2027, some of the investments we made, whether it's in the generative AI business unit, whether it's in NN sales or building vertical capabilities, we will see some of those investments paying off and contributing to our margins. That will be something that all of us, the leadership, will be closely looking at.
Thank you. And best wishes.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you.
Ryan, we can take the next question.
Sure. We take the next question from the line of Dhanshree Jadhav from Choice Institutional Equities. Please go ahead.
Yeah. Congrats to the team. Congrats to the set of members. So my question is with regards to we have given our full-year guidance in a 10%+. So for that, the Q4 revenue guidance should be stronger. So what would be the verticals and trends supporting this strong growth in Q4? And my second question is, can you call out on the subscription revenues in terms of as % of top line and the gross margins we are having there? And any cues and pipeline in the GBS, which we are seeing a strong quarter-on-quarter growth? So it's like ACV also, if we can get. So that would be helpful. Thank you.
First is color on the anchor verticals in Q4.
Q4. Yeah. And then.
She's asking for deal pipeline ACV.
Yes. For GBS. For GBS. Okay. So for Q4, I think we are looking at a couple of verticals to actually drive growth and a couple of verticals to stabilize. I think BFSI will continue to be a vertical that will drive our growth because we are expecting an uptick in Arttha license revenues, typically Q4, our Q4 and Q1 calendar year is the biggest quarter just because customers have completed their planning. They've opened up their budgets. And we have a good pipeline for Arttha. And we have another two months to close this. At the same time, we also have a couple of BFSI customers where we've got additional requirements based on the planning for the new year. And we need to make sure that we are able to staff and start these. So BFSI is one vertical that we are expecting will give us heft in Q4.
The other one is, again, healthcare. I think it's a continuation of trend. For one of our large customers that I talked about, where we are helping build a platform for their diagnostic and health clinics, we are getting into a ramp-up phase in Q4. And there are a couple of new use cases that have been identified, which leverage AI and GenAI. So those two will be contributing to growth in Q4. And I did talk about RCM and Hi-Tech stabilizing. I expect Hi-Tech, one of the large deals that we are working on, should get closed. We are in a very advanced stage. We may get some revenues in Q4. It will definitely contribute to growth in Q1. So overall, as I mentioned while addressing your question earlier, we are seeing the strong pipeline and opportunities that are large.
Are in a very advanced stage in the funnel. As they close, they will start yielding revenues, some of it in Q4 and in Q1 and Q2 as well. GBS, Sridhar.
Yeah. This is Sridhar. Regarding GBS, of course, Joseph shared the quarter-over-quarter growth. We want to continue the momentum to the next quarter as well as the next financial year so that as GBS was introduced as part of our 10 strategic programs earlier, we'll contribute more towards the growth of Happiest Minds. However, when it comes specifically to the pipeline side of the things and some of the deals that we very recently closed, the example is, for example, Joseph talked about startup in Agentic AI platform space, which we very recently closed. There's a huge upside in terms of how much more we can add to such accounts. Then, of course, as we are actually adding the generative AI as part of our AI-led strategy and AI-first strategy across the organization, for example, AI plus generative AI.
And of course, we already have digital process automation as our center of excellence, combining the process automation with AI and generative AI as intelligent automation. So we have a huge set of larger pipeline deals with a combination of GBS generative AI with various other components in the organization. And the last one is, of course, on the AI platforms that we talked about as part of our AI service delivery platform; there is a very healthy pipeline in terms of building that with one of our health tech companies. So we do see a healthy pipeline, and we are optimistic about maintaining similar or better growth in the coming quarters and the next year.
Yeah. Just one question. Am I audible?
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. So I just asked around subscription-led revenues. If you can call out that number and the gross margins there.
Subscription-led revenues. Sorry. We only have Arttha as a line of business, which is subscription or SaaS-based. But we are looking at a couple of more additional offerings like Insurance- in- a- Box, University- in- a-B ox kind of, yeah, Multi-Omics platforms. And those are at a much higher gross margins, if that's the question that you're asking, compared to the normal services. Yeah. Yeah. All of this is covered in the IP-led sales, which is at about 10.4% as of end of quarter.
Okay. Okay. Yeah. Thank you.
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, in the interest of time, we take the last question from the line of Rakesh, who is an individual investor. Please go ahead.
Yep. Great. Thanks for taking my call to the leadership. I have two questions there. Perhaps I see and I'm a retail investor. And the point is that since Happiest Minds has been positioning itself as an AI-driven company, what specific projects or initiatives are being prepared for the GPAI India AI Summit next week? That's the one question. And the second question is that I see a lot of depth.
India AI Summit, what are we doing?
I don't remember which one that was.
Nice saying.
Sure. I'm good. Yeah. Actually, that's an enormous initiative, and we're really delighted that this has been kicked under the guidance of the Prime Minister himself. We will be participating. And I'm also happy to share with you that one of the leading state governments - I can't name this at the moment - has written to us saying that we'd like to meet you there. We are really impressed with the work that you're doing in AI, and we'd like to have a memorandum of understanding with you with a view to building a long-term relationship. So clearly, our focus on AI is paying off in many ways because the world has got around in a very brief period. And we'll be building on it, and we'll be very much present at the AI Summit.
That sounds good to me. Thank you for that, sir. And the second point question is that I see in what is the projected repayment timeline for the current debt? I see a lot of debt being taken because of your new project and new companies hiring taken up. So what are any plans for capitalizing? I see a lot of.
Debt. Yeah.
Yeah. I see a lot of interest being paid every quarter.
Almost all our debt is working capital debt, Mr. Rakesh. If you look at our current ratio, that's quite healthy. We have a significant amount of cash on our balance sheet. It's a little bit of a treasury that's being done, liquidity management that's being done. Receivables are funded through preferential rate borrowings from banks because banks support export-oriented industries by giving us 4.6%-4.7% rate working capital lines. It would be unwise not to use that. We are doing that. We look at the effective cost of borrowings versus the effective returns we make on our investments. Currently, we are 1%+ on the income side.
Okay. Thank you. And just a point of note, as retail investors, we have been investing in this company, trusting you guys for a couple of years, 3 to 3.5 years. And we see a lot of we are not happy indeed. So please do something. I request you to improve your balance sheet. Thank you.
Same about investors. So in terms of.
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, with that, we can close up the recording. Sorry. Go ahead, sir.
Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. I'd like to just answer that. Like many companies, we go through certain cycles. And if you really see the last time we made a strategic announcement and said, "We're going to"—there was a period of two to three years when growth was low. And then we were committing to a 10% growth, which we're on. This is the third year at which we're going to be at a 10% growth. Having said that, it is at this time that as we began to improve, the whole IT industry took a major hit. I mean, if you look at it, at least half a dozen of those companies have been at their 52-week lows. Now, we do believe that we have a secret weapon, which has been announced, and that is AI-based. We believe it's going to take us into accelerated growth rates.
Those numbers, I think, should be visible as you go ahead and be prepared to put numbers to the qualitative statements that we've been making. Do look out for announcements at the end of Q4. I think you will see a new trajectory from the company going ahead.
Thank you so much for the positive inputs.
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, with that, we conclude the question-and-answer session. I now hand the conference over to Ms. Priyanka Sharma for her closing comments.
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