Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Rahul Jain from Dolat Capital. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Thank you. Good morning, everyone. On behalf of Dolat Capital, we welcome you all to the Q1 FY 2025 conference call of IRCTC Limited. I take this opportunity to welcome the management of IRCTC, represented by Mr. Sanjay Kumar Jain, who is CMD of the company, and he's also, he also have along with his other, Director of, respective department. Over to you, Sanjay Ji, for taking the proceeding ahead.
Thanks, Rahul. Good morning, everyone, and a warm welcome to IRCTC earnings call for the quarter ended June 30, 2024. At the outset, I'm pleased to share with you all that your company has been upgraded from Schedule B to Schedule A company by Government of India, based on our past performance. It will strengthen our organizational structure and is a precondition for taking our company to a new level that is from Miniratna to Navratna. Yesterday, the company has announced its financial results for the first quarter of 2025, and the results has been disclosed in both stock exchanges. I will begin with the brief overview of our Q1 2025 performance, following which our Director of Finance and CFO of this company will provide a detailed analysis of our business segment performance. Afterward, we'll open the floor for the question and answer session.
I am pleased to report that Q1 FY 2025 has been another exceptional quarter for our company, with an all-time high profit of INR 308 crore. This represents a growth of 8.2% on Q-on-Q basis, and a significant increase of 32.5% year-on-year basis. The catering and railway segment were the primary drivers in Q-to-Q comparison, wherein the profit increased by 68% and 27% respectively in catering and railway segment. This performance underscores the strength and potential of the business areas. Similarly, on YoY basis, the bottom line of all the segments except tourism, has grown uniformly. Our EBITDA for the quarter also reached up to INR 375 crore, marking a 9.32% growth year-on-year basis and an approximately 3.38% on Q-to-Q basis.
EBITDA margin has improved to 33.47%, up from 31.41% on Q-to-Q basis and static on year-on-year basis, highlighting our operational efficiency and effective cost management. Overall, these results underscore our company's strong performance and resilience. We are committed to continuing this positive momentum and delivering sustained growth and profitability in the coming quarters. With that, I conclude my opening remarks and hand over the call to our Director of Finance and CFO, Sri Ajit Kumar, to provide further insight into the financial and segmental performance of the company. Thank you very much.
Good afternoon, everyone. I hope you and your loved ones are in good health. I'll begin with a brief overview of our quarterly performance, comparing it to the previous quarter, followed by our question and answer session. Quarterly performance at Q1 FY 2025, we have achieved another quarter of robust growth, with a profit of INR 307 crore, reflecting an 8.2% quarter-over-quarter and 32.5% year-on-year increase. This growth was primarily driven by our catering segment, which despite relatively lower margins, made a significant contribution to our overall revenue. Now, the business segment highlights. The first segment, internet ticketing. The internet ticketing segment continued to demonstrate resilience, especially with the transition of reserved 2S tickets back to unreserved tickets.
In spite of the fact that we are nearing saturation, with almost 84% of tickets now being booked through our portal, and we understand that there is a very, I mean, incremental increase will be there, but still, we can trigger. We want to continue with the same revenue growth. The segment reported revenue of INR 329 crore, reflecting a 13.4% year-over-year growth, with a slight quarter-over-quarter decline of 3.9%, attributed to the typical seasonal peak in quarter four, when tickets are booked in advance for the upcoming summer season. Additionally, our residual income from sources other than Google and Facebook, categorized as part of other non-conventional revenue income, decreased by INR 12 crore compared to the last quarter.
In spite of that, the EBITDA margin remained robust at 82.76% compared to 82.73% quarter-over-quarter and 80.34% year-over-year, underscoring our strong market position as well as operational efficiency. The next segment, Catering. Our catering segment maintained a strong growth momentum, with revenue rising to INR 559 crore, an increase of 5.3% quarter-over-quarter and 17.1% year-over-year, while the EBITDA margin moderated to 13.94% compared to 8.75% quarter-over-quarter and 14.61% year-over-year. This segment's revenue growth underscores the increasing demand and our ability to scale the operations effectively. Now, next, tourism.
The tourism segment saw a decrease of 38.1% quarter-over-quarter and 12.4% year-over-year, with a revenue of INR 124.8 crore in Q1 FY 2025. This subdued performance is due to the non-operational State Teertha trains and Bharat Gaurav trains in quarter one, primarily due to the general parliamentary elections in April and May 2024. Despite this, the segment remains resilient and shows potential for future growth, for which we are taking suitable steps. Rail Neer reported steady revenue of INR 107 crore, marking a 34.4% quarter-over-quarter and 16.5% year-over-year growth. The EBITDA margin remained stable at 12.1%, compared to 12.84% quarter-over-quarter and 12.65% year-over-year.
Notably, our absolute EBITDA increased by 27.4% quarter-over-quarter and 11.9% year-over-year, showcasing our efforts to enhance profitability by expanding our capacity utilization as well as adding the new capacity. Now, the overall our Q1 FY 2025 results highlight a successful quarter of growth and a strategic execution. We remain committed to building on this momentum and delivering sustained value to our stakeholders. At the end of FY 2024, the company's cash and bank balances stood at INR 2,908 crores, with a net worth of INR 3,538 crores. This concludes my remarks. Now, we can straightaway move to the question and answer session. Thank you.
Thank you very much. We will now begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touchtone phone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question. We'll wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. The first question is from the line of Deepak from Sundaram Mutual Fund. Please go ahead.
Yeah. Thank you. So I have a couple of questions regarding your catering segment. So as per your annual report, you know, the income from your premium trains, Duronto, etcetera, stood at, you know, INR 1,000 crore. And you mentioned in the annual report that in FY 2024, you serviced around 51 Vande Bharat train. So out of this INR 1,000 crore, how much would be the revenue generated from Vande Bharat train and in FY 2024?
Roughly 12%.
Okay. So in continuation to that, so FY 2024, we ended our catering EBITDA margin at around 13%-14%. Now, would the Vande Bharat EBITDA margin, would it be similar, or would it be, let's say, 200-300 basis points higher than your overall margin?
You see, so far as premium segment is concerned, we have already introduced our cluster system, as I told last time. This is giving confidence to our licensees to share more revenue with us, because it's a long-term contract being given to them. And a couple of clusters we have already finalized, and some of the clusters we have already offered live. So generally, it should be on the same range, but in the time to come, more and more Vande Bharat trains are coming. So premium trains are certainly giving us a better revenue than the non-premium trains. So I am very hopeful of getting more and more percentage of revenue while the number of trains of premium trains increase.
Okay. So, sir, then margin should also see even improvement, right? With this premium train revenue getting added.
Actually, you see, if you see our this segment, then Mail/Express and the Prepaid Trains, there are two kinds of trains. So here in the Prepaid Trains, you have an assured business, but the tag is your meal charges are already prefixed. That is an administered price. So if you see the percentage-wise per meal charge, it will never increase, but overall, the more number of premium trains or Prepaid Trains are introduced, our volume and revenue and profit will increase in absolute terms. Thanks.
Okay. Second question would be: so you have also mentioned in the annual report that, you know, in the Mail/Express part, you are currently servicing around 440 on board and 702 through TSV, train side vending. Total you are servicing around 1,200 kind of number in Mail/Express. Now, if I look at, you know, railway board numbers, on FY 2023, the daily average train running, that is Mail/Express, was around 4,000. And we were serving around 1,000-1,200 as of FY 2024, so that is roughly 28% of the total market that we can serve.
So is my understanding correct, that right now there is very big room for us to, you know, grow from 1,200 Mail/Express trains to which we are catering, to around, let's say, 4,000 at peak capacity?
Very good question, Deepak. May I know from which city you are talking? Or where do you stay?
Sir, Chennai.
Chennai. So you must be aware that there are suburban trains running on to Chennai, and quite in large number, at Mumbai and Chennai and in Kolkata, Delhi, all the metros. So all these trains are not our customer, Mail/Express kind of thing. So if you see the number of trains, Mail/Express trains, which are running for more than 12 hours, they are which are not overnight trains. Because every passenger who comes to take a train, overnight train, they don't require services of railway or catering or from IRCTC. They only at most take the mineral water, PDW, you can say Rail Neer. So, so we have to eye for trains which are running for more than 12 hours and day trains. So, those are our target groups.
Okay.
Accordingly, we are serving them.
Sir, that number would be how much? Means, 12 it is.
That already we have given, no? INR 440 and INR 702. I will give you the exact number will be sent to you, no problem.
Okay, got it.
It is INR 440, INR 702.
OK. No, sir, I'm saying our means total is 4,000, but as you explained, you know, our total addressable trains is not 4,000.
1,259. To be specific, 1,259. As of this, 1,259 trains, including prepaid trains, we are running services of IRCTC.
Okay, sir. And sir, one last question I had. So the last time, you know, Indian Railways, they took a food tariff hike in 2019. Prior to that, it was 2013. So taking precedence from the past, every six or seven years, there is a food tariff hike which comes. So assuming, let's say, if it does comes in 2025 or 2026, okay, how would our catering revenue growth trajectory change? Let's say, for example, for FY 2024 to 2027, if we were hypothetically building in, let's say, 15% CAGR in catering revenue growth, with this tariff hike, how can the growth trajectory change for catering revenue? Will it be 15 + 5%, or how would that change?
You see, generally, these are all hypothetical questions. When we say increase in the rates, it is always, lagging behind in cost recovery. So, to my mind, our profit will in the average of that ratio only between hovering around, 14%-20% only.
Okay. Okay. Thank you, sir. That was it from my side. Thanks a lot.
Okay, thanks.
Thank you. We may remind all the participants that you may press star and one to ask a question. The next question is from the line of Madhuchanda Dey from MC Pro. Please go ahead.
Yeah, I have one housekeeping question. If you could give me the break-up between the convenience and the n on-convenience fee for Internet ticketing for the quarter. I have one more question. Hello?
Just a moment. We have a convenience fee in quarter 2025, 125 is INR 224 crore and non-convenience fee.
Thank you.
Is INR 224 crore convenience crore is the convenience fee, and INR 105 crore is non-convenience fee.
The non-convenience fee was lower. You had mentioned something, if you could just come back again on that.
No, no. Convenience Fee is INR 224 crore.
Yeah, I got that, sir.
But you mentioned.
One more question.
Yeah. Can you hear me? Can you hear me?
Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah, sure, Madhu. Please.
Yeah. So, you mentioned something in your opening remark that some INR 12 crore reduction in non-convenience fee. If you could explain that a little bit, please. I missed that point.
Actually, if you compare Q1 2024 to Q1 2025.
As against INR 198 crore of convenience fee revenue we have earned in Q1 2025 to INR 24 crore.
Okay.
Similarly, in Q1 2024, we earned INR 92 crore as non-convenience fee, which has increased to INR 105 crore in Q1 2025.
Okay. The number of tickets?
Just a moment, Madhu. If you compare our Q4 of 2024 with Q1 2025, there is a slight dip in non-convenience fee from INR 118 crore, it is showing INR 1.05 crore. This, in this INR 118 crore, we have one type of one time exceptional earning of INR 12 crore from social media advertisement, which happened in the month of March because of declaration of elections.
Okay, got it. Got it.
All clear?
Yeah, yeah. Thank you very much. Okay. So that was there in, twelve crore was there in, Q4, which is not there in Q1. Got that point. If you could just share the numbers of tickets, sold in the quarter.
Yeah. You want daily average or you want complete?
No, I want the full for Q1. I mean the total Q1.
25 is INR 11.81 crore.
INR 11.81 crore for Q1 2025.
As against Q1 2024, INR 10.43 crore.
Okay. Thank you very much, sir. My last question is, of course, because of the very bad summer, the Rail Neer business has done well, extremely well. What was the capacity utilization for Rail Neer?
Yeah, I am very happy to say that it increased from 73% to 86%, and that too when we added three more plants.
Okay.
Very happy.
In terms of physical capacity, where does it stand now?
As a physical capacity, we have INR 17.68 lakh of bottles per day. And average of this quarter, which we were producing, is 14+ , INR 14 lakh plus per day, as against INR 12.5 lakh per day last year Q1.
And, any more plans of capacity addition in the next couple of years or.
One plant of 72,000 bottles per day is getting commissioned in Vijayawada. Hopefully, in the month of October we'll be able to do. Hopefully.
Okay. Okay. Got it. Got it. Thanks a lot. All the best.
Ma'am, one question from this side.
Yes.
Hello. This is not only the summer, it is, it is your organization and the people behind that, they have done marvelous job. That's why we could capture this much business. Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Thank you very much. The next question is from the line of Mohit Jain from Tara Capital Partners. Please go ahead.
Yeah, hi. Good morning. So my question is on catering segment. The margins there have been pretty volatile quarter over quarter. Can you tell us, can you help us with the steady state margin for this business? I think you mentioned 14%-20% as a band, which is pretty wide. So what will cause such a big volatility in the catering margin? And secondly, there were some pending cases, I think, regarding previous tariffs hike that were going on. What is the status for those of them? Thank you.
So far as first question is concerned, one hypothetical question was raised by someone, so I made a hypothetical reply that it may range from 14%-20% if everything improve. As for the hypothetical question was asked, generally, it is varying between 12%-15%, depending upon which kind of services are introduced in higher number. And as we understand, as government and railway, as I understand, are coming with more number of Vande Bharat type of trains, so we have a better chance of getting that business of prepaid and premium trains, where we can, in absolute term, we can earn more and grow more. Thanks. Second question, I just missed your second question. What's your question?
No, my second question was regarding the pending cases regarding previous tariff hike. Some of them, if I remember correctly, were still to be decided and were sub judice. What is the status of them?
You see, any matter which is sub judice, no comment should be made. This is what we have learned, so I will not make any comments. Thank you.
Understood. Just coming back to my first question, there is significant volatility quarter-over-quarter in the catering segment. Can you help us understand what drives this quarterly, you know, volatility in the catering margins?
Yeah, you, you see, we are in seasonal business, so not only catering margin, if you see my all segments, you will, you will find a pattern. Pattern is depending upon season. Suppose in the last quarter, January to March, you are booking a ticket for, say, June. May, June, July, where your summer holidays are there. So if you see the pattern in the IT side, you will find that revenue is good, whereas in catering side, the revenue will go in the, the June, June quarter. So that's how it happens. It's a cyclical, it's a seasonal business, you can say. If you see, you will find a pattern. If you want, I can draw and send it to you also.
No, fair enough. That's it from my side. Thank you. All the best.
Thank you. Thank you, sir.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Jyoti Singh from Arihant Capital Markets Ltd. Please go ahead.
I missed his name. What's his name?
Miss Jyoti Singh.
Yeah. Thank you for the opportunity. Sir, two questions from my side. What is the CapEx guidance for the FY 2025 we are targeting for the railway plant? And, secondly, what kind of growth and margin we are earning from the devotional trip train that we plan for the 11 days or 12 days for the specific location? So on that, sir.
So, so far as railway is concerned, we have already planned additional capacity. Vijayawada plant is coming, and then we are in the process of identifying two, three more plants, and we have not yet decided the model. If we go for departmental model, certainly, the investment CapEx will be more. So, this is regarding railway. We have almost the under process of finalization, the final stage in Mysore and Varanasi, but not yet decided the models. That we are discussing and taking the feasibility report now. Your second question is the devotional trip. You see, our, what is our USP? We have two USP.
One is we are fit to take mass tourism, and secondly, we are known for running train tourist packages in a most reasonable pricing price range. So we are not looking of increasing the margin per se, but volume will add to our margin in absolute term. So, devotional trip, we have two kinds of devotional trips: one, which we get from state government, which we say that state pilgrimage, and the other is Vande Bharat trains, sorry, Bharat Gaurav train, where we design a product and sell in the market to our general market and get the bookings. So in the first kind, the margin is good and which compensates the. It is around 20%, and in the second category, it is 9%-11%. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you, sir. Sir, just last question on the overall growth and margin side, what are the targets?
Target means, the coming year?
Yes, sir.
So, you see, we are already, if you see our CAGR, our growth is 17.3% over five years. And if you see our CAGR of margin, that is net profit, is growing 21% CAGR. So hopefully we'll try to do, if not better, than equal. Thank you very much.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you. Before we take the next question, we would like to remind participants that you may press Star and One to ask a question. The next question is from the line of Vivek Rathi. Please go ahead.
Hello, sir. Hi. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to ask the question. You mentioned that, if I got it right, during the initial part of the discussion, that there are 1-19 trains which we are catering to, that's our customer, right? So any more trains which we will be able to serve? You mentioned that overnight trains are not really our customers, that's a problem. But apart from that, are we looking, what are we looking at our probable market, let's say, where we're going to serve it? Because looks like catering is coming out to be the dominant area. Hello?
It's a very good and pertinent question, and if you. I missed your name, please.
Vivek Rathi.
It's Vivek Rathi, sir.
Ah, Vivek, you see how India is moving and how railway is moving. If we see that, we get our answer. First is, economy is booming. Secondly, the DFC is coming and sparing the line capacity for normal train running in the existing infrastructure. And thirdly, government is consistently investing into the infrastructure of railways. This year also, they are planning to invest INR 260,000 crore. So when everything which is indicating is towards adding more and more and more number of trains. And with the Vande Bharat technology being used and being populated, demand from everywhere is to run more and more trains, Vande Bharat trains. And this will certainly add to the business in which IRCTC is in. So I find that I can't give you, I can't give you a number right now, but I can only give you good hope. Thank you.
Regarding your second question, catering. We are, besides the normal catering business, we have also come into e-catering. And on our e-catering platform, we have more than 19 aggregators, including Zomato and Swiggy. And I'm happy to inform you that in that business also, we have grew both in terms of meals booked and the revenue earned. If you see the comparison of quarter one 2024 with quarter one of 2025, there is an increase of around 35% in average meals per day booked, and 40.1%, 9% is a revenue growth on quarter-over-quarter basis. So this will certainly give us a good business. Thank you.
Thank you, sir. Thank you. One last follow-up question, sir. As another participant mentioned before that, 2019 was the last time we increased the catering prices. So any plans of increasing the prices over the next few months or a year?
You see, this is decided by Railway Board, Ministry of Railways. So as the trend is there, we can only hope, but we can't give any confirmed assurance.
Okay. Thank you, sir. Thanks, thanks.
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Oh, sorry. So am I audible now?
Yes, you're audible.
So my question is regarding the number of trains. Can you please share the breakup of the 159 trains? That is prepaid, how much was, how much was, non-prepaid and TSC?
Sure, Kanchan. It's INR 117 Prepaid Trains, INR 440 Mail/Express trains, and 702 Mail/Express where we run TSP. Mail/Express, INR 440 with pantry.
Okay.
It's INR 12.59.
Okay, thank you. That's it. Thank you. Thank you for the answer.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Your question is answered, right?
Yes.
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Yeah. Am I audible now?
Yes, sir, you're audible.
Yes, yes, Deepak.
Yeah. So I had one more question regarding, you know, non-convenience fee revenue portion. Means, let's say, if I want to take a 2- 3 year view of where that revenue can be, and what are the steps are we taking to grow that non-convenience fee revenue within the internet ticketing segment?
You, you see, exact number I can't share, even if I like. But if you see the past, INR 91 crore has increased to INR 105 crore. We are trying our best to, like, improve this further, because as you add the numbers of tickets, which is happening, so the interest of, like, your, customers, your bankers, and, treasuries improve. I'm very hopeful. Thank you very much.
Mr. Deepak, does that answer your question?
Yeah, you answered my question. Thanks.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Kanchan Mangaonkar from Anvil Research. Please go ahead.
Yeah, sorry for the follow-up. Hello?
Yes, yes, please.
You shared the break-up for this quarter. Can you please share the break-up for last year as well, for Q1 2024?
We'll share you.
Okay.
Certainly.
Thanks.
Thank you.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Vivek Rathi, an individual investor. Please go ahead.
Hello, right, thanks, [audio distortion], and then. But sir, you mentioned around 11 crore tickets booked this quarter, if I got it right. So can we get the revenue we generated out of this ticket and then per ticket or total revenue?
You want to know, the revenue for INR 11.81 crore ticket which we have booked? It's INR 220.
I mean, yeah. INR 220. Okay. Thank you, sir.
Thanks.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Ashish, an individual investor. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning, sir. My question is. Am I audible?
Yes, yes, Ashish. Very glad to talk to you.
My question is regarding the plans to grow the ticketing business for flights, buses, and of course, the hotels as well. So would the company be planning to grow revenues and business from these ticketing places?
Thank you for good question. You see, there is an ample scope of giving flight services, hotel services to our reserved passengers. So, from here we can only grow, that much I can tell you, and we have certain plans to do it, which we can't share at the moment, but let it happen, you will know. Thank you very much.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Stuti from Prabhudas Lilladher. Please go ahead.
Yeah. Hi, sir. Just wanted to know the share of UPI transactions for the quarter.
It's 45%. Last one, it was 37%. Thank you.
Okay, thank you, sir.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Rattan Joneja from CoValue Technologies Pvt Ltd. Please go ahead.
Hi. Thanks for the opportunity. I'd like to know what is the revenue from Vande Bharat trains this quarter? And my second question is: When do we plan to increase or bring at parity the UPI ticketing fees?
So, to my knowledge, we can give you separate figure also, but, to my knowledge information at the moment, INR 48 crore is the revenue in this quarter from Vande Bharat train. And so far as UPI is concerned. Sorry, INR 12 crore is the figure for Vande Bharat train in this quarter. And, this exact figure we'll share with you. And, the second question, did you want to know about the charges on UPI?
Yes. But when do we bring it at parity?
Oh, yeah. What are you interested in?
Sure.
Improve the revenue or should we improve the charges?
No, we should, my question is.
What should we do?
Yeah. So, others are charged INR 30. In UPI, you are charging INR 20. So my question is that, when do you, when are you planning. Now, it is already at 45%.
Yeah.
When do you plan to.
Very, very good question, Rattan. Let me tell you, when we were working with the UPI not giving this concession, we were earning only 78% of the business. Now, we are doing 83% of the business of railway. And with UPI there, we are expected to grow further. So what do you suggest? What should the management should do?
This is a 50% rise, from 20 to 30.
No, you see, in absolute term, we are growing. Just because UPI has permitted all the customers which were otherwise not coming to us, they are now booking tickets with us. The total number enhanced from 78% to 83%, and which with further growth of UPI numbers, will likely to grow it further. So management has taken a call that to keep it like this and earn in the absolute number and volume. Thank you very much.
All right.
I hope that answered your question. The next question is from the line of Rahul Jain from Dolat Capital. Please go ahead. Mr. Rahul, your line is on unmute. You may go ahead with your question. Mr. Rahul, please go ahead with your question.
Hello?
Yes, are you audible? Please.
Yeah, I'm audible. Yeah. Thanks for the opportunity. I just wanted to ask you that, are we having any thought processes on price, like, on, in the Rail Neer water bottle, which is unchanged for, like, more than 12 years?
Yeah, we, you see, our USP is selling affordable water to the railway passengers. If we don't do that, then we'll have to face competition with all of the brands. So then, ultimately we'll lose. So what we are trying to expand our capacity, make an efficient plant running, utilization should improve, so 73%- 86% or 87% utilization we have already brought. We are increasing our capacity, and we want to sell at INR 15 only. Thank you very much.
Okay, okay. So, that answers my question. Thanks.
Thank you.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Vivek Rathi and individual investor. Please go ahead.
Okay. So thanks again. So on the community, I wanted to ask, are we expecting any changes or this will continue as is, for even with this Vande Bharat and number of trains exclusive and then increasing, we're not expecting any change over it?
No, it, irrespective of trains, already fixed, per class, AC and non-AC, that is continuing.
Okay. Okay, thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you. As there are no further questions, I would now like to hand the conference over to the management for closing comments.
Thank you all our partners. I'm Ravikumar, the Director of Catering Services, IRCTC. Thank you all for showing so much keenness and interest in the working of this company, of your company, and asking very pertinent questions, which will help all, not only us to perform much more better, and also the other shareholders to come into the interest, into more interest into IRCTC. Thanks a lot for sparing all your time and energy, and we hope your continued support will take us to the next level. We will continue to grow and make our company, which you are part of it, in, to the higher level. Thank you once again.