Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to the NRB Bearings Limited Q4 FY 2026 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star then zero on your touchtone phone. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Diwakar Pingle from Ernst & Young. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Thank you, Rutuja. Good afternoon to all the participants on this call. Before we proceed to the call, let me remind you that the discussion may contain forward-looking statements that may involve known or unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors. It must be viewed in conjunction with our businesses that could cause future result performance or achievement to differ significantly from what is expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. Please note that we have made the results in the same way available on the company's website. In case you have not received the same, you can write to us and we will be happy to send the same over to you. To take us through the results and answer your questions today, we have the top management of NRB Bearings Limited, represented by Ms. Harshbeena Zaveri, Vice Chairman and Managing Director.
We will start the call with a brief overview of the quarter gone past and then conduct the Q&A session. With that said, I will now hand over the call to Harshbeena Zaveri. Over to you, ma'am.
Good afternoon, everybody. Thank you for joining us today for NRB Bearings final year 2025-2026 and quarter four earnings conference call. I am sorry I have a little bit of a sore throat today, so please pardon me if I clear my throat or take a break for a little bit of water. I must say, it is always good to connect with all of you. These conversations have been extremely helpful to us, not just to share our performance, but also to explain how we think about the business, how we allocate capital, how we prepare NRB for the next phase of growth. Today, I would like to take a little bit of your time and not restrict myself only to numbers, because I believe that context is very important. Let me start with the financial performance for the quarter and for the full year.
At a consolidated level, for quarter four, revenues from operations grew 13% year-on-year to INR 372 crore. EBITDA increased by 17% year-on-year to INR 74 crore, delivering a healthy EBITDA margin of 19.5%. Profit after tax for the quarter stood at INR 42 crore. For the full year, revenue from operations grew 11% to INR 1,335 crore. EBITDA increased by 19% year-on-year to INR 267 crore, and margins expanded to 19.5% from 18.3% in this financial year. Profit after tax increased by 77%. That is basically the entire profit after tax, and it is now INR 146 crore. Gross margins and EBITDA margins have improved steadily, and this is not because of any one single factor. It is the outcome of several structural initiatives.
These include a higher use of solar energy, leading to lower power and fuel costs, higher automation, reducing dependence on labor, continuous improvement in yield, and renegotiated vendor costing across materials, components, logistics, insurance, across all elements of material-related costs. I will pause here and say clearly that we are satisfied with the quality of growth. We believe that it is important to deliver growth at an accelerated pace, and we are working on that as well. This is a year where growth is not the outcome of one-off benefits. Growth has come from volumes, from growth of market share across segments, from spreading our capacities, and from improvements in product mix, as well as sustainable internal efficiency improvements. Essentially, our growth is a result of a very comprehensive operational improvement plan. Now, let me touch upon the operating environment during the financial year 2026.
I do not believe this has been an easy year globally for any of us. But despite challenges arising from geopolitics, logistical disruptions, energy availability, challenges, and uncertainty in overseas markets, we have not seen much material impact on our domestic business. While export demand was impacted, NRB and its subsidiaries remain more resilient than many of those around us. Our international business did grow over the previous year to a little over 4%. Our global customers have continued to honor their production schedules and commitments. This quarter, like others, we were impacted by sudden challenges that emerged unexpectedly due to the Middle East situation. However, this was not unique to NRB. It was industry-wide, it was country-wide, and all over the world. Everyone was affected. However, India was particularly affected by the gas shortage.
The ensuing product mix changes, which we faced from customers who were struggling as they adapted to the constraints in the supply chain, but good supply side situations from certain suppliers who were carrying adequate inventory and also a very heavy demand surge. We actually came up to the challenge, we believe, better than most. But to some extent, the situation did reduce our original business plans for the quarter. From an operational standpoint, we feel we handled the situation effectively without disruption because we did not stop our customer lines. At no point did we fail to meet key customer commitments. That for us is non-negotiable. This brings me to one area that often draws attention, and that is our inventory position. I would like to clarify how we approach it internally.
We have strategically positioned inventory across India and key global locations such as Germany and the United States to ensure responsiveness and resilience. This approach allows us to absorb logistics volatility, adapt quickly to changes, and maintain customer schedules, reliable delivery, even during a crisis or a disruptive situation. For several products, we are 100% or near 100% suppliers to international customers, making it critical that we never become a bottleneck in their production plan. Similarly, our situation on share of business is extremely high and at most companies for the products that we are leaders of, it is even 60%-70%, with certain products being 100%. Our inventory strategy therefore supports uninterrupted supply even under stressed global supply chain conditions.
Nevertheless, we believe that there was and will continue to be scope for improvement and our inventories at the end of the year were in fact lower by over INR 20 crore even though our sales rose significantly. NRB's improved inventory position is close to optimal at this point, especially considering the global disruptions. This, as we mentioned, is deliberate, reflecting our flexibility, strong processes and strong customer-centric philosophy. More importantly, this optimized inventory position is linked to the value we deliver. This also enables us in turn to secure appropriate value and pricing. In fact, this is the comprehensive result of our R&D and new product capabilities, our ability to adapt to customer demand collectively across all areas that the customer considers important for a key supplier partnership.
Over time, this reliability and consistency and world-class engineering capabilities for the launch of next generation platforms have strengthened our customer partnerships, led to an increase of share of business and share of wallet and reinforced pricing discipline across cycles. This also gives us tremendous opportunities in the new products that we launch within the automotive sector, apart from our new initiatives in the industrial space. When it comes to growth, we internally track performance over longer periods rather than reacting to quarter and quarter movements. Firstly, our business has inherent seasonality. Secondly, there are different customer-specific ordering platforms in different parts of the world that we serve. Add to that the layer of complexity of products movements, particularly on the export side and sometimes on the import side.
For this reason, a year-to-date and full year lens gives a much more accurate picture of how our business is truly progressing. Viewed this way, FY 2026 reflects steady broad-based growth driven by volume expansion, as I mentioned, and a healthy mix of both domestic and global programs adding to NRB's portfolio. This approach helps us stay focused on sustainable execution rather than get sidetracked by short-term fluctuations. On capacity, there is a question around utilization. While reported utilization is roughly 85%, in reality, effective utilization at several of our plants is much closer to full when you take into account the demand variations. Once you adjust also for maintenance, shift patterns, changeovers, and generally the demand pattern from different segments. We have identified bottlenecks at specific plants. To address this, we have already initiated round three CapEx. Machinery orders have been placed.
In fact, most recently, machines have started to arrive. We expect commissioning of major enhancement projects starting from June, July, and continuing through this financial year and beyond, up to the first quarter of 2028. You will start seeing partial benefits initially from the current quarter and more during the rest of the year. Operational efficiency and improvements in quality, which have already kicked in, will have their own positive impact, and you will see our growth trajectory rise. Beyond automotive, I want to spend a little time about diversification, because this expansion into industrial space is also very close to my heart. We are extremely enthusiastic about our foray into niche and profitable opportunities in the industrial friction solutions arena. This is not about entering commoditized industrial bearings.
This is about high-end, specialized application-specific industrial friction solutions, where NRB's engineering depth gives us an edge in segments such as construction equipment, off highway, industrial gearboxes, switch gears, and power generation. These are all global and growing exponential segments. New customers such as Siemens have been added. New aerospace wins include prestigious confidential platforms of Hindustan Aeronautics and National Aerospace Laboratories. We are choosing to focus on those which we can build the future on. Acquisition of Mahant Tool Room is progressing as planned. Operational transition is ongoing, including purchase order, migration, compliance alignment, and customer integration. We have an order book close to INR 50 crore now, and we expect full operational control between mid-April and May. Before closing, I would like to briefly outline why we believe NRB is competitively well-positioned. NRB has always operated with a mass customization mindset.
Our start and history in needle bearings and cylindrical bearings particularly makes this a mindset edge. In fact, this gives us an edge in a world which is moving closer and closer to what we do best. In fact, the demands that you see and the kind of global situations in the industrial and automotive space are suited for a supplier with our core competencies. Starting with smaller volumes, moving rapidly to mass customization at breakneck speed, with constant changes in the pecking order of which technology is going to prevail, is something we handle exceedingly well. We work traditionally with customers that have a three to five-year timeframe, well ahead of the next platform launch. There are many changes that take place. Sometimes the platforms exponentially are successful. Sometimes there are changes. In fact, this time gets compressed sometimes and moves the other way at others.
Adaptability is key. These are the hallmarks of NRB. This is what gives us a differentiated positioning right from design to delivery. Bearings are co-designed at the platform level. With the application data coming in from our customers, we sit on the drawing board. We brainstorm future technologies that do not exist, like the new steering that Magna is going to supply to the entire stable of BMW, which makes them all, our customers, deeply embedded and makes us difficult to replace. We compete on engineering capability, we compete on flexibility, and we compete by driving this with an immensely disciplined, process-oriented approach. We do not work on commodity pricing and short-term solutions. Whether it is ICE, whether it is hybrid, whether it is EV, whether the power generation is hydro tomorrow, whether it will be wind energy, our bearing content per vehicle and per product remains largely value neutral.
That is our model, and we have ensured that specific applications such as, for example, EV-specific bearings, are priced in a manner to maintain our existing margin profiles. In that sense, we remain EV agnostic in the sense that we are supplying both, I would say, applications across technologies in all the spaces that we serve, and there is not much pricing differential when we enter any kind of segment. We believe we are one of the most risk mitigated companies today when it comes to the concept of pricing and future profitability. To summarize, financial year 2026 has been a year of strong and disciplined execution. Margin improvement has been driven by structural actions, disciplined capacity expansion, and thoughtful diversification. Our capital allocation remains prudent. Our focus remains on long-term sustainable, profitable growth. Most importantly, what gives me the greatest confidence is our people.
Across plants, most importantly, at our customers, in our R&D and our supply chain, our team, our employees continue to demonstrate agility, discipline, commitment, and incredible collaboration within and outside as members of cross-functional teams that brainstorm how to deal with the constantly changing situation while staying process-oriented, or with our supply chain partners or with our customers. Thank you, our investors and analysts for your trust and engagement. With that, I will pause here and open the floor for your questions. Thank you for your patience and listening to me.
Thank you very much. We will now begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star then one on the touchtone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. The first question is from the line of Raghunandhan NL from Nuvama Research. Please go ahead.
Good evening, ma'am. Congratulations on strong set of results for FY 2026. Thank you for the detailed opening remarks. Firstly, in your opening remarks, you mentioned international business grew at 4%. Would you be referring to the standalone business, that within standalone exports has grown at 4%? Would that be the right understanding?
No, we always look at consolidated. Because it is intercompany sale, it is intersubsidiary sale, and if we give you those figures, you will get very confused. It is much more consistent for us just to talk about what we call international business, which is total international customers, which are overseas supplied, irrespective of from where we supplied them and which subsidies. Are they consolidated?
Noted, ma'am.
Does that explain?
Thank you. Explains. Thank you.
Basically for the whole of last year, that was the growth figure we had, which was not necessarily very satisfying, as I said. But considering all the changes in the world, it was positive.
True, ma'am. For the standalone business, would it be possible to indicate how much was the growth in exports and aftermarket for full year FY 2026?
See, for exports, we don't like to take the figure out separately because it causes a lot of confusion, as I said, because there are a lot of intercompany subsidiaries. We have step-down subsidiaries under the holding company. You know the structure, right? I can explain the structure if you like. Would you like me to do that?
No, ma'am. I would just want to know the performance.
Yeah. Exactly. I really think that just exports won't give you a good picture. I think it'll actually give a confusing picture. We also have other subsidiaries that supply, like SNL, for example. Therefore, what I would like to focus on is fundamentally that, okay, the replacement market grew 10%. Am I right? I just want to crosscheck with my CFO. That's my memory. Correct? Am I right? My memory says that replacement grew 10%. Even replacement also grew 4%? Okay. My error. Replacement also grew 4%.
Noted, ma'am.
I think the last quarter has been extremely challenging for most companies in the replacement and distribution space. We, to be honest, revised our plan and decided that we would focus more on OEM. As you know, we are one of the rare companies that does not have virtually any pricing differential when you look at the cost part. I have explained this in the past, but essentially-
Yes, ma'am.
handling the replacement market is extremely expensive. There are lots of discount structures, and the way we calculate it is the final impact.
Noted, ma'am.
Secondly, we are not into commoditized bearings. The prices that we command at the OEMs, it is not the traditional model, which is similar for commodity as bearings or the tire industry or something. You lose money when you sell to the OEM, and then you make four times as much money when you sell in the replacement market, which is the situation with some of our competitors. That is not how our model is.
Well noted, ma'am. How do you see the outlook for exports and aftermarket for FY 2027? Directionally, do you think there is an improvement expected?
Yes, we expect 10%-14% growth in our international business this year, as per our current business plan.
Understood, ma'am.
Lastly, there was 4% growth. Here, we expect 10%-14%, maybe even 15%.
Well noted, ma'am. My second question was on the CapEx part. What is the CapEx expected for FY 2027, given that you are looking at a good growth and you have also indicated in the BSE filings that there will be an expansion happening. For FY 2027, would INR 80 crore be a good estimate as to what the CapEx would be?
No, it will be closer to INR 120. It will be closer to INR 120, and the reason for that is we are also looking at land.
Got it.
Sorry to interrupt you, Mr. Raghunandhan.
I will come back in the queue. I am just clarifying on the question. On CapEx side, INR 120, how would it be distributed between standalone and subsidiaries?
I think I am getting an indication of more questions. As I am saying, we fundamentally drive using consolidation. We do not like to give out too many numbers which are not in the public domain that are necessarily being watched by our competitors, especially since we are outperforming at this point.
Sorry to interrupt. May we request Mr. Raghun andhan to please rejoin the queue. We have participants waiting for the turn. Thank you. We will move to the next question, is from the line of [Vilay Rai] from Kamakhya Wealth Management. Please go ahead.
Hi, congratulations, ma'am, on great set of numbers. Can you please throw some light on capabilities of Mahant Tool Room? What exactly do they produce in aerospace segment? Where do they lie in the value chain? What certifications do they have?
Basically, they manufacture products in what we call mission-critical areas, okay? For the highest performing aircrafts that are used by Indian defense system. The reason this is very interesting for us is because they are very similar to the focus that we have as a company on commercial aircraft. This is landing gear components. This is the fuel injection system. This is the doors. Literally what saved the lives of the pilots and what made our strikes successful. They were at the forefront of that. They also make a product called rod ends, which is similar to one of the bearings that we are focusing on. That is not a bearing, but it is a similar product. Interestingly, even though they manufacture more for defense, the applications are similar to what our long-term goal and plan for aerospace is.
Ma'am, currently, if the order book is 100% towards defense, would they need to apply for more certifications in order to supply to commercial aerospace? How are we planning this? Do we need more certification? What would be the time?
Yeah. They are already in the process of certification. That means they already are in the process of the certification, and our products will also be covered in the certification, what we have developed. That was the reason that we looked for a company that was in process of the certification, rather than the company that already had it. Does that make sense? That means in the next six months, they will be getting the certification. And our products will also be included into that.
Sorry to interrupt. May we request the participant to please rejoin the queue. Ladies and gentlemen, in order to ensure that the management is able to address questions from all participants, we would request you to please limit your question to two per participant. The next question is from the line of Nitish Rege from ChrysCapital. Please go ahead.
Hi. Thank you for the opportunity. Just, ma'am, in your opening remarks, you said that we have added Siemens as a customer. Just could you share some more information regarding this? Is it for Mahant? Is it for NRB? Which application product, size of the contract, timeline, just some color on that.
Sorry, we do not share that information. Often, we are also not permitted to share with our customer confidentiality contracts.
Fair. Just one last bookkeeping. In Mahant Tool Room, you said the order book has now reached INR 50 crore, right?
Yes.
This is executable over the next 12 months, 12-18 months?
No. It does not work like that in aerospace. It means the significance of that is when we announced the acquisition, they had an order book of INR 25 crore. The pace depends on HAL. The pace depends on how much they scaled up. That means enhanced pace will depend on whether a particular landing gear on one aircraft, for example, is rolled out right across, okay, and how fast. These are concrete orders. The exact pace is not something that we can predict, but it gives you an idea of how much business has been signed up, depending on whether the defense organization slows down or moves up. From every angle that we can see, defense rollout is speeding up.
Now, the additional business that we got is indicative of the fact that HAL has not just endorsed, but has heartily endorsed this change of Mahant Tool Room being 100% subsidiary of NRB. In this short span of time, the order book has doubled. That was the significance of that.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Lakshmi Narayan from Tunga Investments. Please go ahead.
Yeah, thank you. Two questions. One, just want to understand what is the mix of revenues by application. The second question I have is that, has the Waluj accident-related volume loss is completely recovered now? Because I think last year we carried some amount of lost opportunity. The third question is that, can you just help me understand the inventory carrying levels, how does it differ between domestic business and international business? Because I believe that international business, the inventory days are slightly longer. These are my questions.
Okay. Let me start by the segmentation that you mentioned. Two and three-wheeler applications for the, oh, one second. Do you want to know the size of the different segments? Just for clarification. Excuse me. Yeah. Do you want to know, for example, now how much are two-wheeler and three-wheeler businesses and how much are aftermarket?
No, I am not looking at two-wheeler, three-wheeler. I am looking at more from an application point of view. It could be industrial, transmission, or it could be the way in which as an organization you define.
Sir, that is not something that we give out, but I can give you a rough indication. This used to be very important to people when EV was happening, and they would ask us, "How much is an engine?" I would say that apart from two and three-wheelers, we are not much in the engine applications. We are in transmission, driveline, chassis, and in steering. We are not much in wheel applications, and therein lies a huge opportunity for us because there are two kinds of opportunities for us, if that is really the end goal of your question. One opportunity is that we are in, and I am going kind of picturing a vehicle and telling you, that we are increasingly in steering, and we are really launching some of the most prestigious steerings in the world. When it comes to transmission, it is very interesting.
I was recently going to buy a car. I might answer this as a story. I said, "Look, I only want to buy a car that has my bearings." So the company was like, "You need to get a prestigious car." I am not a very high profile person, but the company was, "The car needs to continue to be a prestigious car." So I said, "Okay." I can tell you that every single Maybach has my bearings in the transmission, and then it goes down to all the S-Classes and the CLS and the CLA and the C. I mean, literally every Mercedes from one to the Maybach has us in the transmission. Then you flip over to BMW, and you see the models that have that little I initial on it.
All of them, from the 1 Series, the 2 Series, the 4 Series, the 5Series, the 3Series, the 8Series, the I, and you go on all the way to the 7L, and they all have us in the transmission. Increasingly in the next year, as I mentioned, when they change over their steering to the new platform of a highly advanced e-steering, that is going to have our bearings starting as Magna rolls it out then. We are in, for example, the transmission across that I mentioned through ZF. So transmission, chassis, steering are our mainstays. All kinds of electric motors in there. I mean the small ones, like the locking systems and those starters and things have our bearings. Now you move to truck. When you look at truck, all the same footprint that I mentioned just now as part of the vehicle is replicated.
But we are also in very critical applications, such as what is known as a kingpin bearing. When you see those huge trailers, right, on the road, and you wonder how the cargo doesn't get dislocated off, especially if you're seeing a container truck, it's NRB bearing that holds it together. Literally in every Mercedes and Mack and Freightliner and Scania and Volvo. I mean, this is a patented product that we make, which is a combined cylindrical truck bearing. It's very hard for me to give data on specific bearings because sometimes what my engineers like an amazing amalgamation of different kinds of bearings put together. So I think that's the kind of space that we're in when it comes to automotive.
And literally, industrial bearings are going to go into the electric grid, they're going to go into industrial gearboxes, they are going to go into literally anything that takes a cylindrical roller bearing. We are increasingly developing our product range for construction and off-highway, as I mentioned, and switchgears and the electric grid transmission. So those are the areas of focus. I hope that answers your question fairly comprehensively.
Yeah. Thanks. The other two questions?
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Varun Jain from Dolat Capital. Please go ahead.
Hi. Good afternoon, ma'am. I have a couple of questions on Mahant Tool Room. I think last quarter when the acquisition was announced, it was told that the annual revenue run rate for this company is close to INR 2 crore. In FY 2027, how much will be the revenue they will be able to execute out of their INR 50 crore order book? Is HAL 100% of the order book? That is my first question.
There are two things. On Mahant Tool Room, if you have a little patience, once we complete all elements of this transaction, then we will be able to make a very comprehensive business plan, and we would be happy to give some insight into that approximately six months from now. It will be more meaningful. The INR 2 crore actually has no meaning because our idea, we had a plan to set up our own aerospace manufacturing facility. I can tell you fairly candidly that we were carrying, at that point of time, INR 100 crore of RFQs from some of the names that are the top three, top four producers of aircraft and their components in the world. However, the situation was that if we wanted to enter that business, it would have taken us four years even to be able to respond to the RFQ.
Because without a concrete AS9100 certification plan, which in a time-bound manner can be shared, we had no hope. Therefore, our aim was to buy a company that would give us the people capabilities, the design capabilities, and the certification capabilities to take this business to the next level. We also did not want to buy a company that did not have the right culture, and it was extremely difficult for us to find a company that was doing such complex things, but at a scale that we could take to the next level. That is the entire reason why we acquired it.
If you have a little patience, trust me, we saved three years, and we were able to really be in a position to make that concrete plan, which typically people either go and acquire a business outright, but we do not believe in acquiring a business outright because the culture does not fit then, because this requires a lot of innovation.
Sure, ma'am. This is HAL right now 100% of the order book?
It is, but it's not one division. It's literally every division. You know, HAL is run in a manner where literally each division is like a company of its own. So this has multiple divisions of HAL, which are buying different parts for different kind of technologies and aircraft.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Rudraksh Raheja from ithought Financial Consulting . Please go ahead.
Yeah. Thank you for the opportunity, ma'am. Am I audible?
Yes, you are.
Thanks. First question is there a reason to believe that the industrial segment would be margin accretive to our business? If yes, by how much percentage?
Let me answer your question in a complicated manner. Will it be as or more profitable? Depends. The reason I am saying that is not because the industrial business we are targeting is not profitable, but because the automotive business we are targeting is also very profitable. You get my point? It takes me back a little bit to that distribution angle where companies sell 6204, 6203 standard commoditized ball bearings. They sell them even at a loss to a two-wheeler company and then sell them at 3x the price in the replacement market. That is not what we do. The kind of industrial bearings we are focusing on are as profitable as what NRB currently makes, which is at the end of the day, an 18%-20% EBITDA margin is a requirement for us to focus in any area. Is some of it 30%? Yes.
Some of it might be 14%. Will it average out to what we have over the next five years? Will it pan out and be in line with our aspirational goal of maintaining profitability consistently between 18% and 21%? Yes. Does that answer your question?
Yes, ma'am, it does.
Thank you.
Uh-
The next question is from the line of Shreyans Gathani from SG Securities. Please go ahead.
Hi. Good afternoon, ma'am. I had one question on the last quarter margin. We have never gotten below 60% gross margin. This is the first quarter in a very long time. Just trying to understand what caused the dip in the gross margins that we saw in this last quarter.
Fundamentally, only one reason, foreign exchange.
Got it.
So-
Okay. That's because of the imports that we do for our steel.
No, actually, it's a little bit more complicated. One is the product mix. The impact on forex on certain products had one high import component. Secondly, the COGS also gets converted into a rupee value. If there's a sudden change on the last day, it can just be not reflective of how it would have been over a month. See, our international entities, their expenses got booked in a very non, I would say, in a very strange manner because of the sudden change of the pricing on the last day.
Okay. We should expect this to normalize
It's not something that you should worry about because if you look at the YTD, if you just consider that there was this crazy spike on a particular day, the percent just gets knocked out over a three-month period.
Okay.
It was just an unusual situation of accounting practice. We do not change accounting practice. We stay with the accounting practice that is proper for a long run. Sometimes you have a sudden anomaly, right? I'll give you an example. If, for example, your other income, which is actually operational other income, like scrap sale, doesn't happen because you decide you don't want to sell your scrap on the last day because you're not getting a good price. Why not hold it till next month? You understand where I'm coming from?
Got it. Okay.
It's just that kind of unusual situation. It's not something that you need to worry about. It'll go back to what you're used to.
Okay. That's good to know. Any color?
For example, if you're not adequately booked for that date, you have a certain forex booking policy, you have a certain import/export booking policy. It's an aberration because of the exchange rate differential on the last day of the year.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Dev Gulwani from Care PMS. Please go ahead.
Hi. Thank you for the opportunity. Can you give the breakup of the INR 120 crore CapEx?
Not beyond what we've already put in the public domain. Because if you see in the public domain, we have already explained the INR 200 crore CapEx, which will happen over the next 18 months, and the various projects that it's to. In the last meeting outcome, we also announced that we would spend up to INR 40 crore on land. So, you need to factor all that in, that it's a total announcement of INR 240 crore, to be honest. It's not INR 120. INR 120 is just for this year. So it has no meaning. Supposing I tell you these machines are coming, but the furnace is coming in the next financial year in January because we don't need it till now. Fundamentally, it is 90% for machines and 10% for infrastructure and buildings, and land.
What will be the maintenance CapEx? Or does this also include the maintenance CapEx?
The maintenance CapEx is part of our normal CapEx, okay? We spend 10% of our turnover on a combination of maintenance, quality, new product development, and small CapEx improvements, which could be for balancing the lines.
Okay. Thank you.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Pavan Kumar from RatnaTraya Capital. Please go ahead.
Ma'am, I wanted to understand, by when can we scale up our industrial business to a meaningful proportion of our entire revenues? That is, let's say, some 20%. Also, I understand a substantial part of our exports is from Europe. So the Europe FTA deal, does it make any kind of difference in terms of our competitiveness with respect to the other competitors?
What is the second question? I heard your first question. You want to know how long it will take for the industrial to be 20%? It's very hard for me to predict because this year, the automotive industry just grew so exponentially. Right?
Mm-hmm. Yes.
Our industrial business is already approximately 14%-15%. If the automotive business had not grown so much, we would have been able to get more capacity. The industrial business also includes tractors and farm equipment. You have to also keep that in mind.
Okay.
Globally, that is how it is. Because also the companies that make tractors and farm equipment, like John Deere, they also make road rollers. They also make, right, cement concrete mixtures.
Yes.
Things like that. 20%, I can just give you a ballpark and say I'll do it in three years. But what if the automotive industry just springs back, then just because it's a pie, right, it might slow down.
Yes.
But if the automotive industry goes slower, then automatically this grows faster. Our aim is to have it as 20%-25% of our business, if that is your question.
Okay, ma'am. Are the capacities between industrial and automotive, are they fungible or it does not work that way at all?
Flexible between the capacity? Yes, they are. In fact, if you read our joint venture declaration, it says that 20% of the capacity of the joint venture, I am not sure if it is in the public domain, but I think it is, that 20% of the capacity may be used for automotive if automotive suddenly requires it, because even today, 20% of our or 25% of our current automotive capacity is being used. There is flexibility in the products we have chosen.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Zakir Nasir, an individual investor. Please go ahead.
Ma'am, congratulations on a very healthy year ending for NRB. If we could shift slightly from the number part of it to, see, for the past three years from where NRB was to how it looks today. It has been a drastic transformation. Where do you foresee the company three years hence, ma'am? If you could give a qualitative and what you would want NRB to seem or what you would want it to look like three years from now, ma'am. Thanks.
As I mentioned in a five-year timeframe, we would be around INR 2,500 crore. I did mention it as an aspirational goal. But to be honest, more and more as we do our homework and we are seeing the business come in, it is more and more becoming a concrete goal. So, definitely we see this number panning out. If we have strategic joint ventures that allow us to enter more import substitution products in India, which we are in discussion with all over the world with some key players for bearings that are not really manufactured right now in India, because with the BIS and the push of the government of India, there is a huge opportunity. And most of the multinationals, they are selling this as traded products because they cannot put capacity down when they already have excess capacity in some other part of the world.
But we are a company that can flexibly manufacture smaller volumes in a profitable way. So there is a huge opportunity to take this INR 2,500 crore in the next five years, which as I said, is an aspirational goal, increasingly becoming a concretized goal to even more.
Fantastic. And ma'am, see, bearings, again, as you mentioned, is a very specialized thing. People like us understand bearings to be a very commoditized product. Would you also go a step ahead in maybe transforming NRB into a specialized fine engineering kind of a company?
Tell me more about what you mean exactly.
Meaning that when you make a fine bearing, there is something which goes a little beyond the bearing, something which is attached to the bearing or something which pertains to the mechanism surrounding the bearing.
If you're talking about adjacent space, we're already doing that. For example, we make products that go along with bearings, which other bearing producers don't make. That makes the entire bearing more efficient, and it also makes it easier for a customer to buy it all. For example, for the tubular industry, NRB is one of the global leaders of a product called crankpin. No other bearing company made it. Some of them have started doing it only following us, but mostly they buy it out or something. But we make it as a core in-house product because when you put the bigger bearing with the crankpin in the connecting rod application and the crankshaft, you get far more high performance and less failure. Because a bearing company is making a product that a bearing company doesn't generally make.
Similarly, Daimler has to make a range of pins that they actually buy, for example, from random other companies that are from different spaces, saying that we want to buy all our high-precision products, which are of bearing caliber from NRB. So definitely the answer is yes to what you're asking. We're already doing this, and we'll do more and more of it.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Samarth Nagpal from Suranu Family Office. Please go ahead.
Hello.
Yes, please go ahead with your question, sir.
Yeah. Am I audible?
Yes.
Yeah. Hi. Congratulations, ma'am, for a great year. Taking it forward from the previous participant only, I just had a couple of questions. Ma'am, you have clearly explained how the future looks for us. But right now, being conservative as well, do you see any risk coming for us? Because we have been coming off a very prolonged period wherein we had a lot of headwinds internally. Do you see any risk coming in for us in the next three to four years, which can derail our plan?
I mean, nothing beyond what other companies or the environment faces, because we don't have any internal risk whatsoever. As you know, we are completely and totally free to grow as and how we want. And we have me, as a significantly large probably, owner. And we have a board which is very forward-looking. And I think that the world may have lots of challenges, but I think we're in a better place to face those challenges. We have a very strong management team. So I think that we should be able to navigate the challenges that the world throws. We also have a mindset that loves challenge.
Thank you.
A lot of resilience, as you've noticed. We spring back.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Saket Kapoor from Kapoor and Company . Please go ahead.
Namaskar, ma'am, and thank you for the opportunity. Hope I am audible.
Yes, you are.
Ma'am, firstly, in the backdrop of the current business environment and setup, especially with the type of shortages people are especially the equipment, automotive players are witnessing because of plastics and then the metal part, and then the shipment issue. How is our company as well as the product where we are in place, that we may or may not be disturbed in terms of the supply chains issues that automotive industry is currently facing?
We have stated in the speech that we are in a better position than others to handle this. That is why our company is optimized in this manner.
Second question is, ma'am, secondly, with respect to the incremental volumes for this current year, since you have mentioned that you are already running at optimum levels. Are we anticipating any volume growth for FY 2026, 2027? If you could just elaborate wherein what should we be benchmarking in terms of the volume growth?
I have already explained to you that our capacities have started coming in, and we will be handling the market requirements.
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question for today. I will now hand the conference over to management for closing comments.
Thank you so much. I really appreciate all the questions. They are extremely interesting and have us thinking and energized. I also thank you for your patience.
Thank you. On behalf of NRB Bearings Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.