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Q2 26/27

Oct 15, 2026

Summary

Q2 revenue rose 25.2% and EBITDA 49.7% YoY, despite commodity-led gross-margin pressure. Growth was broad-based, while management targets above-15% CAGR and continued margin improvement as pricing, mix and cost actions catch up.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to Orient Electric Limited Q2 FY 2027 earnings conference call hosted by DAM Capital Advisors. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star then zero on your touchtone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Tanay Shah from DAM Capital Advisors. Thank you, and over to you, Tanay.

Tanay Shah
Analyst, DAM Capital Advisors

Thank you, Danish. Good afternoon, and welcome to the Orient Electric Q2 FY 2027 earnings call. Today we have with us Mr. Ravindra Singh Negi, Managing Director and CEO, Mr. Arvind Vats, CFO, and Mr. Sambhav Jain, Head Investor Relations. Now, without any further delay, I will hand over the call to the management for opening remarks, post which we will begin the Q&A session. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Thank you, Tanay. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Orient Electric's conference call to discuss the results for the quarter ended 30th September 2026. Thank you for joining us today. I trust you've had an opportunity to review our financial results and earnings presentation. Let me begin by briefly touching upon the broader operating environment before taking you through our performance for the quarter and the key developments across our businesses. During the quarter, we continued to face persistent commodity inflation, particularly in copper and aluminum. Crude price movements added further pressure on raw material costs and, in turn, on our gross margins. At the same time, global and geopolitical uncertainties continued to affect supply chain visibility and business planning.

To mitigate these pressures, we've taken a price increase of 3%-6% across various categories in quarter two, and another increase of approximately 3% in October in some of the categories, and complemented them with improved product mix and productivity initiatives. While input cost inflation has yet not been fully offset, we remain disciplined in our approach, balancing pricing with market competitiveness and sourcing efficiency. Against this backdrop, Orient Electric delivered broad-based growth, with revenues increasing 25.2% year-on-year during the quarter. Our One Orient and three-wall strategy continue to anchor our growth agenda as we build lighting, wires, switches, and switchgear alongside our established core consumer appliances businesses. Premiumization and innovation, along with portfolio diversification, remain key priorities, enabling us to leverage our existing ecosystem more effectively while keeping consumer needs and disciplined execution at the center of our strategy.

Let me start with our lighting and switchgear business, which delivered a strong performance during the quarter, with revenues growing 25.7% year-on-year to INR 329 crore. Within lighting, consumer lighting delivered double-digit growth, supported by continued traction in premium products. High-value rooms remain consistent at 66% of the room mix, reflecting our continued focus on premiumization and a richer product portfolio. Professional lighting also delivered high single-digit growth, supported by a strong inquiry pipeline and a continued focus on new product development. We also are encouraged by the momentum across our other categories. Wires more than doubled year-on-year, while switchgear and switches delivered high double-digit growth. Our electrician engagement programs, along with distribution synergies across categories, are helping us deepen channel reach and capitalize cross-selling opportunities. We continue to focus on quality, dependable service, and a relevant product portfolio to further strengthen retailer confidence.

Moving now to our core strength of electrical consumer durables business. ECD revenues stood at INR 550 crore, representing a year-on-year growth of 24.9%. Fans delivered a high double-digit growth, outperforming the industry and resulting in market share gains. The performance was broad-based, with both our direct-to-market led and master distributor-led markets delivering double-digit growth. Within fans, BLDC continued to see strong traction, growing approximately 26% year-on-year, supported by both premium and innovation-led launches. Premium products accounted for approximately 40% of the fan mix. Our focus on innovation and premiumization continues to yield encouraging results, with new products contributing more than 30% of the fans revenue during the quarter. Energy-efficient products, differentiated design, and consumer-relevant innovation remained central to our product strategy. Appliances also delivered double-digit growth led by water heaters and garment care segments.

As we move into the festive season and the second half of the year, our focus remains on ensuring the right product assortment and availability across channels while maintaining a measured approach to the broader demand environment. On the distribution front, we continue to scale our direct-to-market model with further expansion across Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh, and Jharkhand, strengthening our go-to-market execution. We also took over the service for Punjab and Nagpur region. Our digital channel also maintains healthy momentum, with e-commerce growing by high double digits, strengthening our presence across marketplaces. Quick commerce now contribute approximately 15% of our digital revenue and grew by almost 100% year on year, reflecting the evolving consumer buying landscape. On the brand front, we continue to strengthen visibility across airports, outdoor and digital media, with a focus on engaging premium audiences and reinforcing our technology-led positioning.

We're also strengthening the consumer experience even deeper through Project Samvad, our customer service enhancement initiative, which is helping us sharpen consumer insights and enable faster resolution through AI-led capabilities. Turning to the financial performance, overall, the revenue grew 25.2% year on year to INR 879 crore during the quarter. Gross margin stood at 29%, impacted by continued input cost pressures during the quarter. Despite this, EBITDA grew 49.7% year on year to INR 57 crore, with EBITDA margin expanding by 106 basis points to 6.5%, supported by operating leverage and continued cost optimization. For H1, we have grown by 24.3% with a revenue of INR 1,829 crore. Gross margin stood at 29.4% for H1, while EBITDA grew by 46.9% year on year. EBITDA margin stood at 6.7% for H1, which expanded by 104 basis points, supported by operating leverage across.

Our cost optimization program, Project Sanchay, continued to deliver results, generating savings of approximately INR 13 crore during the quarter and approximately INR 23 crore for H1 through focused cost initiatives. PAT more than doubled to INR 27 crore during the quarter and INR 59 crore for H1, again, close to 100% growth. We closed the quarter with working capital of 34 days. Cash discipline remains a key priority as we balance investments in our portfolio and a continued expansion of our distribution footprint. Over the longer term, trending towards a double-digit EBITDA margin remains our aspiration, supported by mix improvement, productivity, and sustained cost optimization. Looking ahead, our focus remains on premiumization, innovation, expanding distribution, and strengthening consumer engagement while maintaining disciplined investments across the businesses.

As we move through the festive season and the second half, we remain confident in our outlook given the brand preference, market share gains, and our refreshed consumer-centric innovative portfolio of products across all three sides of the wall. On behalf of the entire Orient Electric family, I would like to wish all of you and your loved ones a very happy Diwali and a joyous festive season ahead. Thank you. We are now open for questions.

Operator

All right. Thank you so much, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin with the question- and- answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touchtone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. Our first question comes from the line of Aniruddha Joshi with ICICI Securities. Please go ahead.

Aniruddha Joshi
Analyst, ICICI Securities

Yeah. Thanks for the opportunity, and congrats, team, for a great set of numbers in Q2. Sir, two questions from my side. I guess we have taken price hikes in October. Has that led to any inventory up-stocking in September month or September quarter per se? Is there any one-off performance in the growth, which would have led either inventory up-stocking or any low base or something like that? That is question number one. Question number two, how do you see the BLDC fans business shaping up? Because now, I guess with another rating change, and again, next rating change in January 2029, there will be far more focus on BLDC fans. How is BLDC fans as percent of our total sales, and what will be the plans on driving BLDC sales also? Yeah, that is it from my side. Thanks.

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Thank you, Aniruddha. I will take your questions both. First is on the price hike, and if you look at right from April onwards, there have been very consistent price hikes that we have taken. None of these price hikes, typically, if I were to go back a couple of years back, each price hike would have a primary up-stocking that will happen. Today, the trade is also kind of now, I would say, literally tired of price hikes, but it is not leading to any abnormal primary up-stocking that happens. It has been consistent with the demand and the pull that we have been able to see, and one of the big things that we have seen across most of our categories is that response to our new products. For fans, we spoke about 30% revenue coming from the new product.

All of our products, and we do a very close tracking of commercialization of these products across categories. I would say the success rate is 90% plus for us. That is what is giving us market share gains and helping us gain volume value. On the base and everything, while industry had a lower base, we still had a slightly better growth versus industry last year, Q2 also. If anything, from a season up-stocking, last year the Diwali was slightly up. Last year, September had a little bit of up-stocking. This year, if anything, it is split between September and October. So there is no abnormal one-off that we see. On your second question on the BLDC growth, we have been seeing consistent growths for last eight quarters in BLDC. This quarter, we had 26% growth on BLDC. Almost 30% of our ceiling fan now comes on the BLDC portfolio.

It has happened over a period of understanding closely what a consumer wants from a tech perspective, from a design perspective, solving for those, converting those insights into new products, and ensuring that the core of the BLDC, which is the PCB, the quality is much, much better than what a consumer experiences across the industry and peers. So we are very confident on our portfolio, our quality, and the tech as well as the design language that the consumers are getting. So BLDC will continue to grow. While we are 30% of the ceiling fan industry, by and large, if we take some of the larger BLDC out, would be in the range of about 17%-18% of the ceiling fan. So we continue to drive this in a big way. Trust that answers, Aniruddha.

Aniruddha Joshi
Analyst, ICICI Securities

Yeah, sure, sir. This is very helpful. And congrats once again to the team for solid performance. Thank you.

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Thank you, Aniruddha.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one. Our next question comes from the line of Bala Subramanian with Arihant Capital. Please go ahead. Hi, Mr. Bala Subramanian. You may please proceed ahead with the question.

Bala Subramanian
Analyst, Arihant Capital

Hello. Good evening, sir. Am I audible?

Operator

Yes, you are.

Bala Subramanian
Analyst, Arihant Capital

Thank you so much for the opportunity. Sir, NPD contributed 30% of the fans revenue. I think you rightly mentioned you have a 90%+ success rate, and the focus is on tech and design. I just want to understand what is the R&D spend as a percentage of ECD revenue, especially in the fans. How do you measure, like, on the ROI side, on innovation with launches versus the cannibalization risk to existing SKUs?

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Thank you, Bala, for the question. As we said, there are multiple things that we're doing on the R&D side, and it all starts from, first, changing the core DNA of the organization to be very consumer-centric, understanding the insights, understanding the consumer needs, and solving for that. For that, we are strengthening some of our projects and programs like Project Samvad, which gives us deeper insights into the consumers. We not only go to the consumers, we also go to the influencers and specifiers like architects and interior designers, pick what is the trends happening, and then we convert that into our products. The way we measure our success of products is what is the reach that particular segment or a particular price bracket, if we launch a product, what is the reach that's supposed to happen, and what are the repeats that we get.

Then we measure from a third party whether they start coming into our overall market share, and those are the products that we look at, and that's how we define a success there. In terms of our R&D spends, we do about 0.8%- 0.9% of our turnover. It's far deeper and we have a design R&D, a lot of efforts that gets in behind this.

Bala Subramanian
Analyst, Arihant Capital

Okay, sir. Sir, my next question, I think we have launched Nixa Shield MCB and Isolator as well as the modular switches. Is that 6kA MCB cap is now fully addressed or its further launches is expected maybe in this year or next year?

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Thanks for picking this up. We've just launched Nixa Shield, which is a 6K. That was a segment which was not being addressed by us. Largely from a B2C side, that's a good segment that's growing faster than the industry. We've covered that. We're doing a phased launches of it, geography-wise, and as we move forward, we will continue to add to it. From a MCB perspective, that's largely covering the segments. We've got 10K, 6K, and we have a technology advantage, where we have a technology tie-up with ETI of Slovenia, and we have a Ecotech range, which is the upper end range there. From a range perspective, we've covered it. From a geographical go-to-market, it's a phased rollout, which is happening.

Delhi has happened, U.P. West has happened, and now you'll see U.P. and rest of the places getting covered in the next few months. But we're getting a very good response to it.

Bala Subramanian
Analyst, Arihant Capital

Great, sir. Thank you so much. All the best.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Madhur Rathi with Counter Cyclical Investments. Please go ahead.

Madhur Rathi
Analyst, Counter Cyclical Investments

Sir, thank you for the opportunity. Sir, firstly, I wanted to understand regarding our operating margins versus some of our competitors like Crompton Greaves and Surya Roshni, who do high single digit to low double digits. So where does Orient sit? Because we have constantly mentioned that we would like to take it to double digits. So when can we expect to achieve that?

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Madhur, hi. So obviously, if you look at it, yes, that is the aspiration and that is what we have always give a guidance in, that double digit is something that we are working towards. If you look at from a improvement perspective, we have improved in the last two years. I would say if you were to look at only from last year, it is about 104 basis point improvement. If I take a year before, that is about 130 basis points improvement. Typically for us, and for a large part of the industry, quarter two is a little low from a seasonality perspective. If you look at our results in quarterly trending, you will see H2 being much better, Q3, Q4 being much better in terms of EBITDA percentages.

Our effort is to, had the inflation or this unprecedented inflation not been there, I would have had a very different confident timeline to give you on the double-digit margin. But I see at some point in the next four to six quarters, at least in H2 onwards, you will see us trending far closer to that. In terms of our percentage improvements, in terms of our absolute EBITDA, absolute PAT growth percentage, we would be far better than most of our peers in that sense.

Madhur Rathi
Analyst, Counter Cyclical Investments

Sir, what I am trying to understand, this is always a four to six quarters down the line story. What I understand is that we are not able to achieve this. Sir, similarly, our working capital days have increased from closer to 16 days, 17 days in FY 2024 to 34 days during this quarter. Is it that whatever revenue growth is coming, we are giving higher credit terms or terms of trade are getting deteriorated for us versus some of our competitors who operate in a negative working capital scenario? So I am not able to understand this. Our revenue growth is coming at a loss.

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

No Madhur, I think that's a wrong inference to take. Look at what we've done in the last three years. We've moved from an MD to a DTM structure. MD, the days of outstanding AR would be very different from when you go to direct to market model. Now when you're comparing with peers, there are larger things that you need to look at. Look at inventory days. We are in line with the industry number of inventory days. Look at payables. There are large players who are giving payables at 100 days+ . We are far better than. From an overall perspective of days of inventory, we're absolutely in line. There is one part which is where we've gone and got into newer segments and gone DTM.

That's where our days of sales outstanding or ARs moved up, which is where we put some of the programs of channel financing and all, which is work in progress. You should see improvement there. We've moved our working capital 30 days, 34 days. In the next four or six quarters, it should come back to about 20 days, given the point that we're doing in terms of our channel financing and everything.

Madhur Rathi
Analyst, Counter Cyclical Investments

Got it. Sir, just one final question from my end, sir. The cost improvement from Project Sanchay, how much further cost improvement can we expect during H2 of this year?

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Last year, we did a full year of about close to about INR 70 crore. A large part of my accruals start to come in in the H2, and you will see currently we're at about INR 23 crore. We should cross the last year's number in terms of our. Because my spend base goes much on the H2 and my accruals start flowing in much better in the H2.

Madhur Rathi
Analyst, Counter Cyclical Investments

Sir, also I am not able to

Operator

Thank you. I am sorry to interrupt you.

Madhur Rathi
Analyst, Counter Cyclical Investments

I will get back in the queue.

Operator

Thank you. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, in order to ensure that the management will be able to address all the questions from the participants, we request you to kindly limit your question to two questions only per participant. If you have a follow-up question, you may please rejoin the queue. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Naushad Chaudhary with Aditya Birla Sun Life Insurance. Please go ahead.

Naushad Chaudhary
Analyst, Aditya Birla Sun Life Insurance

Hi

Thank you, sir. Two questions. Firstly, on the growth side. I hope I am audible.

Operator

Yes, you are.

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Yes, you are, Naushad.

Naushad Chaudhary
Analyst, Aditya Birla Sun Life Insurance

On the growth side, if I remember it correctly, we have taken roughly 10%-15% price hike across category. Earlier, our aspiration was to have 15% kind of CAGR in three to five years band. But with this price hike and the growth which we have experienced in last two quarters, should the expectation for FY 2027 move in similar line of what we have done in last two quarters, and then thereafter, there should be a 15% kind of expectation?

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Hi, Naushad. I think if we were to split our growth, and obviously the numbers don't give you that split of volume value. For the last two quarters we've been and we looked at each category, I think we've had a double-digit growth at an overall volume level also. It's not just the price growth which is growing. Yes, you're right, we had given a guidance of a 15%+ CAGR. Currently, we are at about, for the H1, at about 24.3%. As we move forward, we really can't predict the inflations and all, but our entire effort is to make sure that the volume-led growth starts to creep in more as a percentage of our revenue growth. Currently looking at everything, my guidance would be that we would be more than 15% of CAGR. How much more?

We don't give a future this thing, but yeah, definitely we can look at a slightly more aggressive number than what we had given earlier.

Naushad Chaudhary
Analyst, Aditya Birla Sun Life Insurance

On the gross margin, last quarter, we indicated with the price hike, which is getting absorbed, we should quickly come back to 30% or 31%-32% kind of gross margin in immediate quarters. Should that be an expectation in coming quarters, assuming last quarter would be a half absorption? Next quarter or not, should we expect that range?

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Naushad, when we gave a guidance last quarter, we thought we were flattening out of the inflation. We had taken price increases with planned price increases for Q2 also. Unfortunately, as we speak, there is no predictability on the inflation. The controllable factors with us are how fast and how well we can be competitive and yet pass on the prices to whatever extent possible, and that's what we've been passing on. Except for our emerging categories, in all the other categories, we've been ahead of the curve, ahead of our peers in passing on the pricing and being very disciplined in ensuring that those prices are absolutely duly passed on. Our gross margins have come down, and that's largely led by inflation. Our efforts in terms of execution discipline, passing on, even if it means slightly ahead of the industry averages, that will continue to happen.

We are hoping that the inflation will slow down, if not stop, and that rate of inflation-led pricing that we passed will catch up on the gross margin. My guidance in the long run stays at about 32%, and that's what we are working. What we can mitigate through pricing, we are maximizing that, is what I can assure everybody on the call.

Naushad Chaudhary
Analyst, Aditya Birla Sun Life Insurance

Great. Thank you, sir. All the best. I'll follow back.

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Thank you, Naushad.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question come from the line of Mr. Tanay Shah with DAM Capital Advisors. Please go ahead.

Tanay Shah
Analyst, DAM Capital Advisors

Yes, sir. Thank you so much for the opportunity. My first question is, we spoke about a 3%-6% price hike this quarter as well. Just wanted to understand right from the beginning of this CY, or even FY for that matter, what would be the quantum of price hikes which we've taken across our key categories, and how much does that cover as a percentage of the overall inflation? That would be really helpful to sort of understand how our margins would move way forward.

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Tanay Shah, hi. Thanks for the question. We'll have to get into multiple categories to do this. Largely, if we were to speak about it, in quarter one, we had taken in fans about close to 9% price increase. In quarter two, close to about 3%. As we speak, October 3rd, in fans, we've taken about 3% price increase. In appliances, and appliances have various subcategories. I'm giving a broader overall listing. We've taken about 6% price increase in quarter one. We took another about, in some categories, on an average, we've taken about 3% price increase in Q2 in appliances. Lighting, we've taken about 6%-7%. In Q1, we've taken about close to 6%, and we've taken about 2% now in October. Switchgear, we took about 7%-8% in Q1, another 6% in Q2.

Wires, literally every two to three weeks, we've been taking a price increase. Although in wires, since we are a new entrant, versus peers, we are not leading this price increase, but we are following and we are a fast follower on that. Trust that answers, Tanay.

Tanay Shah
Analyst, DAM Capital Advisors

Yes, sir. That's really helpful. If you could just give as a percentage of the overall cost increase, have we covered chunk of it via price hikes or is there some bit of under-absorption which is yet left?

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Yeah. If you look at it different category-wise, it will range from about 80% on, let's say, fans and appliances, close to about 90%, wires closer to 100%, and rest of it would be in the range of 80%-100% of what the inflation led. So there are gaps to be covered, yes, and that's a competitive intensity that's there in each of the categories, and that's what we've always looked at. What doesn't get answered in all this is, a large part of that balance to be covered is also being covered through premiumization and a mix change.

Tanay Shah
Analyst, DAM Capital Advisors

Absolutely.

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

That's how we are trying to look at the gross margin improvements.

Tanay Shah
Analyst, DAM Capital Advisors

Sure, sir. That's really helpful. My second question would be, if you can just spend some more time on the DTM strategy. We have almost implemented it across 15 regions or states right now. How are we improving our metrics for the earlier states in terms of market share or in terms of even growth, for that matter? Maybe if you could just touch upon how is DTM margin dilutive or accretive in nature, and why would that be so, sir?

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

So, I've already in the previous calls also, I've said, it is going to be a balanced approach for us. It's never going to be 100% DTM or 100% MD. It's going to be a balanced approach. We've always looked at, from an input perspective, quality of distribution, depth of distribution, quality of infrastructure, relationship. From an output perspective, growth, market share, premiumization. Those are the parameters that we look at when we look at each market. At a certain point when we decide on any of the markets, those are the opportunities that we see and feel that we can drive better than the MD in those markets, and that's how we do a transition of those markets. We've done Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh, and Jharkhand in this quarter. All the parameters from an output—input perspective, that's what we've been doing in all our DTM markets.

From an output perspective, our DTM markets are performing well on growth. We are seeing consistent market share gains. We are seeing premiumization improving. We are seeing BLDC growth happening much sharper there. We are seeing the depth of distribution getting better. Your other question or a sub-question within that was that, is it margin accretive? Yes. Because of all the things that we are doing, we, at a margin level, get a better output. Even on the NPD side, while overall 30% of our revenues come from NPD, in these DTM markets, the contribution of NPD is almost about 500 basis points-600 basis points more.

Tanay Shah
Analyst, DAM Capital Advisors

Got it, sir. Got it. Thank you so much for the detailed explanation, and I will come back in the queue. Thank you, sir.

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Lakshmi Narayanan with Tunga Investments. Please go ahead.

Lakshmi Narayanan
Analyst, Tunga Investments

Yeah, a few questions. Sir, what is the B2B mix for H1, and how it compares with last year? My second question is that you have talked about new product-led growth. I want to understand how the dealership or distribution expansion has led to the growth. If you just disaggregate the growth, what has actually resulted from the expansion of distribution, and how many touch points you have actually added? My third question is that you have taken a price hike. I want to understand, I think your COGS, what is the mix of steel and plastics, and where do you see these in a higher inflation? Because what we hear, at least in the last one, two quarters, is that there has been a prohibitive increase in steel as well as plastic prices. You have tremendously managed the margins. I would love to hear your perspectives on this.

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Yeah. Thanks for your question. There are three large questions that you have asked. One, how is the B2B mix and how is it moving up? Our dealership and expansion, what is the value or growth that is coming from expansion? Then the price that you have asked for. Let me just start from B2B mix. Overall, as an organization, we are double digit on our B2B. But when you look at some of the segments like lighting, we are at about 25% of our business coming from B2B. Overall, if you look at from a B2B perspective, the growths for the industry and for us have been slower than what we have seen in the B2C.

That also has an ability to pass on the pricing in B2B is lesser, and all the peers or people who have got larger share of B2B must be facing this pressures far differently. Because you go do contracts and annual rate contracts at a point where you do not know what the next three months or four months inflation would look like. So B2B mix is more or less stable for us. While the growth rates have been slightly better in the B2C side. We continuously keep monitoring our expansion and especially for our core categories, we have been expanding. If I were to give you a count, on a large base of about 1 lakh+ direct and indirect distribution that we do on fan, we would have added about 3,000 to 4,000 more outlets.

It is difficult to measure the revenue coming from this, but we largely look at our volume growth. So we have seen a volume value growth in most of our categories. In fact, sorry, if I were to say in all of our categories, we have seen a volume value growth both coming in. The third question was on the inflation from some of the categories like steel, plastic. While as we look at from a commodity perspective is all commodities that fit into our BOM of almost 100% of our products, they have all gone up for the industry, whether it is steel, which has moved from about 65 to about 80+ . Plastics have gone up. Copper is touching a new high every two weeks. Aluminum has gone up and been very volatile. So for each product, each SKU, the BOM is differently.

But it is unfortunate that the inflation is so secular across all commodities that it impacts the entire portfolio for the industry there. Does that answer, Lakshmi?

Lakshmi Narayanan
Analyst, Tunga Investments

Yeah, that answers. Just one question. I saw that another large company has reported numbers, and they have also reported an increase in margin, and then appliances also, I see it. It seems that the price increase is easily passed to the customer. Is it a fair assumption that this time price increases are easy to be passed on? Because a couple of years back, there has been difficulty by the industry to pass on price. But at least anecdotally as well as numerically, I see that price increase by the consumer durable companies seems to be easily passed on, and it is without any effect on the volumes or the value growth. I just want to hear your thoughts.

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Yeah. So price increase is passed on. I have a little issue with the word easily. I do not think so that it is getting passed on easily, because if it was easy, the entire industry would have passed on 100% of it. So there is a mix that happens. There is this competitive intensity that happens. Obviously, when you pass on the thing, there is one factor which never gets picked up. And maybe in your channel check, you would pick it up. Most of the categories in FMCG industry or other industries, you would see a share of unorganized players getting more. And that affects the bottom of the pyramid products.

And hence, when Orient took that journey of premiumization about three, four years back, it has helped us soften that impact because unorganized segment is growing and the arbitrage, when you keep taking price increase, starts to become large enough for a consumer to drop an organized brand and take an unorganized local brand. So that is the difficult part, and that is the balancing act that most of the organized players are doing right now. Currently, everybody is forced to pass on the price because the inflation is unprecedented there.

Lakshmi Narayanan
Analyst, Tunga Investments

Got it.

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Everybody is passing on, not been able to pass on 100%, and hence, not a fair term of easily, but otherwise.

Lakshmi Narayanan
Analyst, Tunga Investments

Got it.

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

You are seeing broadly everybody passing on some percentage of the inflation.

Lakshmi Narayanan
Analyst, Tunga Investments

Got it. Thank you, sir. I will come back in queue.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, just a gentle reminder, please limit your question to two questions only per participant. Our next question comes from the line of Nikhat Koor with Dolat Capital. Please go ahead.

Nikhat Koor
Analyst, Dolat Capital

Hi. Thank you for the opportunity. My question is regarding the Hyderabad facility. So sir, what is the capacity utilization for fans at this facility, and what is the mix of PPW and ceiling fans at Hyderabad facility? My second question is on wires. Wires continues to see strong growth of 2x growth. Has this category been launched pan-India? These are my two questions.

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Thank you, Nikhat. Firstly, I will take the question on Hyderabad. Hyderabad, as I said last time also, it is about 40% capacity utilization on a single shift. We continue to see that. As we move forward, and it will be the higher production cycle that we will start seeing in Q3, Q4, which is preparedness for the next season, the capacity utilization will improve further there. Currently, we do about 75% PPW and about 20%-25% ceiling fan there. It is largely PPW facilities. What we are also doing is we are picking up all our models and SKUs which do well in South to be produced there so that we save on the logistics and warehousing costs. So that is on the Hyderabad side. On the wire side, we have not done a pan-India launch.

As I have always maintained that what is our core reason to get into wires and our right to get a placement in an outlet and then a right to be picked up by electrician is that 45% of our fan selling outlets do sell wires. We have picked up strong fan selling markets where our market share is good, where our brand preferences are, and those are the markets where we have launched. Largely North and East is where we have launched, some parts of South. As we move forward, our white spaces of rest of the states will also start helping us in building wires much better. We are not spreading thin.

We are going deeper into the states where we have launched, building a robust preference for the brand, giving electricians a first-hand experience of dealing with Orient, and that is how we will keep expanding over the next six to eight quarters.

Nikhat Koor
Analyst, Dolat Capital

Sure. Thank you, sir.

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Yash Jain with Ambit Capital. Please go ahead.

Yash Jain
Analyst, Ambit Capital

Hi. Thank you for the opportunity. Continuing with the last question, is the new facility contributing to margin improvement, or are we yet to see the impact from that facility in terms of margins? Can you quantify what will be the kind of margin improvement that we are expecting from that facility?

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Well, on a steady state where inflation is not taking away the benefit and the utilization going up, we should see about a 20 basis point, 30 basis point coming from Hyderabad utilization.

Yash Jain
Analyst, Ambit Capital

Okay. Thank you. Another question is on BLDC. We are seeing improvement for your portfolio here, but is the industry growing at that rate, or what are we doing differently that is helping us gain significant market share in this space?

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

I think industry is growing in BLDC also. We are outpacing industry, and that's why we are seeing growth in BLDC and market share. I would say that what we've done differently is that we've firstly corrected the core of the technology, which is the PCB. 70%-80% of the PCBs that get into our BLDC fans is manufactured by my own lighting factories. That's where we control the quality. We continuously work on improving the output there. We've also done a huge amount of consumer studies to understand the design language and what are the needs of the consumers. If you look at some of our recent launches, like Aerosilent, which is a Red Dot Award winner. India's first most silent fan with less than 50 dB. We've done a BLDC fan with Ecotech Volt, that's India's first ceiling fan with a battery backup.

We've done Aero O2, which is India's first oxygen-generating fan. We've done a Harrier wall fan, which is India's first BLDC with a gesture control. With a hand movement, you can switch on, switch off, control the speed. These are coming from a deep consumer insight that we have, coming from our Project Samvad, which is translating into products which are ahead of the curve of others in the industry, and that's what is giving us a preference at the retail preference, at the consumer's preference with the specified segments.

Operator

Thank you.

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Nirransh Jain with BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.

Nirransh Jain
Analyst, BNP Paribas

Yes. Hi, sir. Thank you for the opportunity. Sir, firstly, if you can just call out the A&P spends done in this quarter versus the last quarter.

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Yeah. So typically, our quarter one is slightly higher because of the seasonality and other things, but fair to look at it on a year-on-year perspective, we have spent more than 10% of what we had spent last year on our advertising and marketing spends. Because sequentially, it may not be a right way to look at it because quarter one is obviously a heavy fan season.

Nirransh Jain
Analyst, BNP Paribas

Understood. Sir, secondly, again, just wanted to get more sense on the gross margin side. If I look at the nine months, we have taken roughly around 15%-18% kind of a price hikes. Alongside, our BLDC share is increasing and our premium mix has continued to increase across the categories. Despite that, our gross margins had declined roughly 250 basis points over the last two quarters. Just wanted to get a sense. Is that the competitive intensity has increased because of which it is not actually adding up back to the realization otherwise? It is a sharp gross margin cut for the amount of price hikes we have taken, and then we are also calling out that we have covered almost 80% of the inflation. In that case, if you can just help us understand more on why the sharp 250 basis points drop there.

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Yeah. Okay, Nirransh. You have not spoken only about fans in general, you have spoken about all the other categories. Just the gross margin is also a factor of other factors of mix and everything. There are house wires, switch gears, and those mixes are also changing in our portfolio. But largely, what we also do is, and if the underlying question is that are we being aggressive and not passing on as the industry is passing on, passing lesser than that, and that's what is impacting? The answer is no. What we do is through a third party, we also look at indexing. We have done that indexing across most of our categories through a third party. We have seen an improvement on indexing.

Just to give a little BLDC context, if 100 or if 1 is the average ASP and index of the industry of BLDC, we are at about 1.11. Over the last six quarters, we moved from a 1.04 to a 1.11. That's also a factor of the mix and a higher ASP and a superior premium products that we put. We measure that also from perspective that if there is a possibility to get X, we make sure that we are getting X plus and not X minus from the industry on that perspective. Yes, it's a sharp drop of over 250 basis points, but that's not because we have not passed as much as our competitive intensity allows us to pass. We have passed on more than that.

But still, the inflation has outpaced far higher and far sharper than what we could take as a price increase.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, due to the time constraint, that was the last question for today. I now hand the conference over to the management for the closing remarks. Thank you, and over to you, team.

Ravindra Singh Negi
Managing Director and CEO, Orient Electric Limited

Thank you, everyone, for your good wishes and all the sharp questions. Wishing you all a very happy Diwali in our festive season ahead. Look forward to meeting some of you in the next three to four weeks. Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you so much, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of DAM Capital Advisors, that concludes today's call. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.