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Status Update

Oct 1, 2024

Moderator

Welcome to this presentation from Ensurge Micropower. Thank you for attending. Together with me today, I have with me Chairman from Ensurge Micropower, Terje Rogne. We will start with a brief update from the company and an investor presentation, and then we will have a Q&A session. If you have any questions, you can feel free to write it in the chat, and we will answer as many questions as possible. Thank you very much, Terje, and welcome.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Thank you. Thank you for this opportunity to give a company update for the company. It's been a hectic period, so I'm happy, very happy to have this opportunity. Thank you. So in the presentation that will take about fifteen minutes, short presentation, I will address the market, the market opportunity, the problem that we are addressing. I will also talk about the production process, the manufacturing process, where we are in the manufacturing process, what it takes to complete the first set of batteries for us to send to partners and technology customers. I'll also talk about the road ahead, the technology roadmap. So when you look at today's market, market opportunity, you see that all electronic devices are constantly being shrinked. It's being miniaturized for a number of reasons, mobility, ease of use, whatever reason.

You see also at the same time that all electronic devices are being asked to do more and more. You want it to deal with artificial intelligence. You want it to deal with security. No one wants your electronic device to be the access point of access for hackers into your private network or your enterprise network. So these are the bad combo for today's liquid lithium battery technology, a battery technology that has been with us for hundred years. Very little room for further improvement in that technology. So that is existing technology, electronic devices. Looking at new electronic devices, it follows the same pattern, becomes smaller and more compact. Looking at Samsung's Galaxy Ring, iFixit had a short period ago a teardown of that.

Beautifully mastered, engineered product, has all the functionality, but there's one problem, and that is the battery. That battery can be charged 150-200 times. That makes the lifetime for this battery to equal to two-three years. The fact that you cannot change the battery makes that lifespan for this electronic device to be equal to the battery's lifetime, and that's sort of causing a e-waste and its lack of customer satisfaction, so the battery is clearly the bottleneck, as we see new electronic devices also coming into the market. Last week, one of the best placed IoT companies in the world, Nordic Semiconductor, had their capital markets day. In, in their power management efforts, they talked about new battery technology, and yes, looking at the entire IoT landscape, the battery technology is the bottleneck number one.

So no wonder that you see a surge, a massive surge in interest for new battery technology. Lately, you have had Murata, TDK, now Samsung and many others talking about their sort of intentions when it comes to new battery technology. Different to them, our battery technology is based on a different substrate. We're not using glass or ceramics. We're using stainless steel. Ensurge has been dealing with stainless steel roll-to-roll for more than 15 years, so we know that material's properties better than anyone. The beauty with stainless steel roll-to-roll, thin stainless foil, is that it's much more compact. That allows for a much, much higher energy density. So when new and existing technology is looking for new battery technology, what is it that it requires? It definitely requires more energy, higher energy density, a longer time between each charge.

You're looking for better charging, faster charging, more charging cycles. You're looking for a higher effect rate, pulse rate, and you're looking for safety. Some of our customers, new customers, med tech companies, they are very eager to get their hands around new battery technology... They want new battery technology to energize all their new sort of ideas. Devices they want into your eye, into your mouth, into your ear, inside your body. That fits very poorly with today's battery technology. Battery technology that if it leaks, it itches, it burns, it may even explode. So obviously, that does not run well with the FDA for such innovation. So yes, looking at this competitive landscape and the opportunity, we are extremely sort of eager and excited and enthusiastic about where we are. Let me take you through the manufacturing process and where we are and what we're aiming for.

So this thin stainless steel substrate comes in rolls, and the idea for us, we split the manufacturing process in two major parts: the front end and the back end. Our idea and our target and our clear mission is to have the entire front end from roll to roll. So comes on rolls that we deposit the battery layer, and we will pattern the battery according to the size, the footprint that each battery is to have, and then we test and inspect it. All that, we aim for a roll to roll manufacturing process. We're not there yet. Today, yes, it comes on a roll, and we print the battery, but then we quickly move to sheets and then to quads. Moving from roll to roll, so when we talk about our scaling efforts over the next twelve months, this is primarily it.

This will dramatically improve our capacity, and it will reduce the number of manual handling steps, the source for errors. So that's the front end. The second leg is the back end. Here, today, as each cell has been inspected, then we singulate it, we pick it, and then we stack it, and then we encapsulate it. That's where we are today. In February this year, after more than four years of tough, hard, diligent efforts to prove that we could develop a single battery cell with the performance, the profile in its performance, that our technology recipe outlined, in February of this year, we had a breakthrough there. We proved that, yes, it is possible. Since February, we've been working very disciplined, ironing out all the sort of opportunities for errors, streamlining, optimizing each and every sub-process of the manufacturing process all the way now up to encapsulation.

That's where we are. What we're dealing with now is to find the optimal composition of the material that is wrapping this stacked battery. That is to contain the energy so that we can charge, use the battery and charge, so the number of charging cycles are being defined by the quality of this composition. And then we also want to apply a certain level of pressure on the battery, 'cause once you charge, it expands, and once you sort of deplete the battery, it shrinks. That is causing a stress to the encapsulation material. So this is the final step in our manufacturing process. What this will allow us, once this is in place, and it has to be complete in place, it needs to be 100%. We cannot afford to cheat.

We have to be absolutely sure that once we are sort of satisfied, and we have confirmed that now the battery has the number of charging cycles, the performance that allows us to start shipping these batteries to customers and technology partners, we know that it's not sort of being met with disappointment. We want it to be sort of creating a, "Wow, this is new. This is exactly what we are looking for." We want that. And that type of experience, that type of happening, is where we are sort of now at the point to enter. So this is sort of the manufacturing process where we are. Let me also take you to where we're going. So we're looking now, as we're speaking, we're looking at releasing solid-state batteries with an energy density level. This is measured according to watt-hours per liter.

We're looking at releasing batteries with 650-750 watt-hours per liter. That compares to today's Li-ion, Li-polymer batteries of 150 watt-hours per liter. So it's a dramatic leap forward. As a matter of fact, we think that if you manage to move beyond 350-400 watt-hours per liter, you're making such a compelling reason for existing device manufacturers to change. So by 650-750, we're creating a fantastic start for our journey, our commercial journey. We will, over the years, also increase the number of charging cycles. I mentioned the battery that is currently being employed, used in the rings, 150-200 times. The battery in itself, in theory, should be able to be charged up to towards 3,000 times. Obviously, we will not get there day one. That will take time.

With our sort of current outlook, we are very happy to see that we're close to be able to release our first generation batteries with this type of performance. It will make a splash, given the attention, the amount of recognition, and the buzz. It will make a splash. Now, that's just the very beginning. That's generation one in terms of our battery technology. As we move forward, we will increase the number of charging cycles, and we will increase, dramatically increase, the energy density level. We're looking at an energy density level of way north of 1,200 watt hours per liter. So yes, we definitely do have a fantastic opportunity in a market that is close to exploding. It's a market that is defined today by lack of this type of battery technology. So I want to leave it at that for now.

I'm sure through all the questions, that I understand have started to come, that I will be able to dive deeper into some of these slides. So I'll leave it for that now. Yep?

Moderator

Thank you. Thank you very much, Terje, and for those of you that have not read the Accelerate Capital's report, it's on your webpage, under Analyst Coverage. And, yes, we have received several questions. One questions that that have been repeating itself is, of course, "When can we expect revenues in form of own production or development agreements or license agreements?" If you can comment on that.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Obviously we don't know, but here's what we know, and that is that we're now close to 100 customers eagerly waiting for our technology. We haven't spent $1 on sales marketing. It's purely word of mouth. So there's a humongous amount of interest in what we're doing. But they're all, just like the investors, sitting on the fence, waiting for our confirmation that not only have we mastered the technology that we proved in February this year, but that we also have mastered the manufacturing process. So, as I said, we cannot allow ourselves to cheat. We have to be absolutely confident that this meets the expectations or exceeds the expectations before we start shipping batteries. We know that we're going to get this final step in place, but the timing of it is hard to sort of state.

No one has done this before. It's brand new, so we need to have the necessary discipline and, sorry to say, also the necessary patience. We know that we're close. We have said that before, and we know and looking at sort of the enthusiasm and the eagerness of the people doing this work, we know that we're close.

Moderator

Thank you and in relation to the slide you just showed up on the presentation here in the regarding energy density.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Yep.

Moderator

... there's a question in regards to the efficiency. So does the increased energy density also scale up to larger batteries form? Or could you-

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

With-

Moderator

Yeah.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

I understand the question. So when you, when you surpass 1,000, 1,200 watt-hours per liter, you're talking such an extreme capacity that then you are covering the greater part of the entire electronics market. Beyond that, that requires a different type of battery technology. Yes, you do have solid-state battery technology aimed for the EV market, but that is different cathode technology, and it's a different technology structure as well. So that's not within our reach. We're looking at, for now, the IoT, the space-constrained market, as number one. Let me pull out one slide for that. So this is our target market for now: smart label, smart card, connected sensors, medical devices, wearables, hearables. That's sort of the sweet spot for now. But yes, we will move beyond that. With higher energy density, watch, phone, premium drone, but EV, that's not for us. That's a different ballgame.

Moderator

Mm-hmm. Thank you. And a question that has also been repeating itself a little bit is, regarding yield.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Mm-hmm.

Moderator

And in the report from Accelerate, there are some comments, of course, regarding production yield.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Mm.

Moderator

And what is the yield on produced cells, inputs? And how good are you to call it, do not continue with the bad cells before they go into production? If you can,

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Here you see singulation, and then it's stacking. If you stack one cell that is a bad cell, the entire battery is done.

Moderator

Mm.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Now, I have read that report, and it is a report that reflects an experience related to the EV market. As I've stated, no one has done what we're doing, so there is no kind of history here. No prior history to base the analysis or the report on. What they're saying is quite right, but not for now. Yield will become important. Right now, what is more important for us is to be able to identify here which cells are working, which are not, and then isolate those. So it's we know that it's not. We know that there are certain errors in each quad, each sheet, that are not optimal.

So being able to identify those dramatically sort of reduces the failure, and what we're left with then represents an extremely high yield for us. So rather than yield, our focus is our ability to pick out, to predict which cells. So it's not like we're operating in being blind. We know, we can see, we can isolate, we can test out the bad cells.

Moderator

Mm.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

That allows us, yes, as this matures, as cost becomes important, then, of course, yield becomes an issue.

Moderator

Mm.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

But not for now. Does that make sense to you?

Moderator

Yeah. And in regards to the report from Accelerate Capital, there are some more technical questions regarding different layers. I just have to translate from Norwegian, but in the report, it says that Ensurge first we'll finish the 11 layers, and then 28, and lastly, 43.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Mm.

Moderator

The reason for this is that the yield should be above 98% per unit of each cell-

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Mm

Moderator

... in order to produce 43 layers. And then can you comment a little bit if you will launch 11 layers or 28 layers batteries earlier than 43 layers, like the-

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Most likely.

Moderator

Yeah.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

So we do have customers waiting for 11 layer, and we have customers waiting for even smaller batteries.

Moderator

Yeah.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

So when I started in April 2023, it was very important to me that we could rally all attention among all employees on one target, be laser focused, and that was the customer that has placed the order for us.

Moderator

Mm.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

That requires a battery that has two alternatives there: either one battery with 43 layers or two battery with 28 layers. So yes, the opportunity for us is much greater, but our development efforts has been laser focused on this forty-three layer battery. It's a numbers game, basically. So the more batteries that you have, being able to test the encapsulation, the better and the faster we will sort of fix the final step.

Moderator

Mm.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

So that's the reason why we are stacking now 5 layers, 11 layers, and some 28... But we're, we don't want 43 layers because there isn't much difference.

Moderator

Mm.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

We want more batteries with the same sort of properties, so that we can test our way through the final step encapsulation. That's the logic for the order.

Moderator

Mm, mm.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Yeah.

Moderator

Good. And I have one question. You mentioned the Nordic Semiconductor earlier, and Samsung they chose Nordics in the new health ring. They have the 54 chip of Nordic that can run 56 MSUs on the same time and have a decent batteries. And the question is, will the need for Ensurge batteries become less in this application or in regards if you compare to this application, or more, if you understand?

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

No, it's. I believe it's actually the 53 chipset that is inside the.

Moderator

Okay

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

... the Galaxy Ring.

Moderator

Yeah.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Yes, it's a powerful, very energy efficient chipset, but it's constantly being challenged to execute on more operations. There is a never ever ending story that you provide more capacity, and you're asking for more. This fight is constant. What you know is that for user interface, for performance-wise, you constantly need more energy to drive this. That's the only thing you know.

Moderator

Okay.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Yes, you can compensate to a certain degree with more efficient chipsets and power management solutions, but you can't develop yourself out of this relentless lack of energy, and that need constantly grows.

Moderator

And several other questions that are coming in is, of course, regarding timing of commercialization that we have been into. But you have, I believe you have one, or can you deliver on the orders when you get them going forward?

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Okay.

Moderator

Uh, because-

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Yeah

Moderator

... one question is, when can you deliver on the order you have for 1,150,000 batteries? And what kind of volume do we talk about for the first generations batteries ready in 2025?

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Towards year-end 2025, the plan for us is to be able to deliver about 200,000 batteries.

Moderator

Mm-hmm

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

... equal to the 150,000 battery order-

Moderator

Mm

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

... per month. So 200,000 per month. But if I look at the entire customer portfolio as of today, I see that there is much more demand there than we will ever be able to manufacture and deliver on ourselves. But that's not the game plan. In our own manufacturing facility, what we want to do is to take care of the most difficult customers, customers with an extreme demand, customers that are willing to pay premium price. Why? Because we want to stretch our own know-how, our own competence, and the only way to do so, that's through difficult customer demands. Our idea is that, okay, we will expand our current, or our single line manufacturing capacity that we have in place as of now. We may go to two, we may even go to three, but we will never, ever become a manufacturing entity.

That's a totally different business model.

Moderator

Mm.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Our own manufacturing capacity is being, will be devoted to difficult customers that are willing to pay premium pricing. It's going to be devoted to development agreements, joint development agreements. I mentioned med tech companies. As I said, they are very eager to get their hands on new battery technology. Being able to design batteries with specific specifications and performance according to their needs, that's something that obviously we will charge for. $1 million, $5 million, $10 million for joint development agreements, and that's most likely coming sooner than the third sort of leg in our commercial strategy, licensing agreements. The joint development agreements, that's much sort of closer to us, while licensing agreements, that requires a certain level of regularity and consistency in our front end and back end manufacturing process.

But yes, we've spent more than $350 million to get to where we are. Obviously, we want a payback on that. And with this unique battery technology, extreme energy density, a C-rate, you're talking 10, 12, 12.5 C-rate. A C-rate of that magnitude combined with the energy density that we're talking, that's unheard of! So how do we allow this type of technology to become available to the broader market, to all the verticals, to all the geographies? But we're not, we will never, ever have the capacity to reach. That's through licensing agreements. So yes, we are running discussions with technology partners for future licensing agreements, but obviously they want to see the regularity and the consistency in our manufacturing process before we enter into that.

Moderator

Thank you. I think that answered a lot of questions that have been coming in. Yeah, because you recently did a private placement-

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Mm.

Moderator

in the company, and some questions have also been regarding to additional capital needs over the next six to 12 months. But, I mean, that's surely probably depends on the licensing agreements or

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Yes. Or yes, joint development agreements. I am personally thinking is closer in time-

Moderator

Mm

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

... to alleviate any, sort of need for further capital raise.

Moderator

Yes, thank you. Thank you. Good, and just to mention, to the viewers, if you have questions, please feel free to write them in the chat. We have some more, call it, technical, questions, like, "Will the 11-layer battery be made on a 75 µm, like stated in the Accelerate Capital's report, or 10 µm, like the other batteries?

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

It will be 10 micron.

Moderator

Yeah.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Yes, we do also have customers for 75 microns, but that is not of strategic interest.

Moderator

Mm.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

It was a middle step for our manufacturing process, our learning curve.

Moderator

Mm.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

It will be 10 micron.

Moderator

Yeah, and in regards to the question prior to that-

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Mm

Moderator

... for the potential licensing partners-

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Mm

Moderator

... are they mainly waiting or evaluating the packaging solution, or is it the yield, or what are they most-

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

It's the entire.

Moderator

Yeah.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

It's the entire, from the very beginning, from the beginning in the front end to the end in the back end.

Moderator

Yeah.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

So it's the entire manufacturing process that needs to sort of be consistent and have the scalability.

Moderator

Mm-hmm. And do you think that Ensurge are able to stand up to the larger players within... I mean, competitors that are in the same market?

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

I am absolutely convinced.

Moderator

Mm.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

The single most important reason for me to take on this task in April 2023 was the opportunity to meet the team, the competence, the enthusiasm, the work ethics. And, when you, when you enter that building now, compared to just when I started-

Moderator

Mm

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

... when I started, it was one shift, five days a week.

Moderator

Mm.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Now we're running seven days a week, two shifts, and we're bringing on board people now to increase that to three shifts, seven days a week. So the competence, the speed, the velocity, the work ethics of this team is second to none. And remember, finding these, yes, some of them larger, but they just happen to be employed by a larger company. It's still a team that we are competing with. They are struggling internally to access all the resources that our team have 100% devotion to. Remember that the specialist will always run faster, jump higher than the generalist. So yes, I'm absolutely convinced, and I will vote for my team day in, day out.

Moderator

Good. Thank you. I think we have, I mean, some of the questions, they are, I think they have been answered. You can maybe a little bit regarding the yield again. If you see on the latest report, the quarterly report-

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Mm

Moderator

... there was a breakthrough in the yield that was described in the report.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Yeah.

Moderator

If you can, I think it was really released in August, and what is the status now? You can say a little bit about it if you-

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Yes, it's part of the manufacturing process that allows us to skip two intermediary handlings.

Moderator

Mm.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

That has been the continuous sort of development of this manufacturing, streamlining this entire manufacturing process.

Moderator

Mm.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

That to sort of jump over to reduce the number of handling steps has been very important to us. So rather than, rather than just fix the issue, we have had to fix the issue, but in the most scalable, friendly manner. And this is something that came up through this process, a brilliant idea that, yes, we are seeking a patent for that.

Moderator

Mm, mm. Thank you. And can you also comment on the incubation services?

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Yes

Moderator

... that you intend to offer?

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Yes. So, in the valley, there are some players that are expanding, that are occupying, very engaged within the field of artificial intelligence. They're occupying all the buildings, all sort of similar type of facilities in the valley. Our lease contract that runs until October 2028 is in high demand. So we have now run the first test run, allowing us to invoice that $20,000 pre-agreed contract for this service. So we've completed the first run through our roll-to-roll manufacturing process, demonstrating the capacity of our manufacturing facility for one customer. Two other customers are now coming, and that's the basis what we think for a larger audience within our building. We have more space than we need. We have more manufacturing capacity in certain areas than we need.

So being able to sublease that is one way for us. Yes, it will reduce the running cost, but more importantly, we want to do this together with companies that are similar, that work within sort of similar fields. We want this battery technology incubation system, this atmosphere, to be supported through these sublease agreements. So yes, the first is in place, and we're starting to invoice for those services, and it looks fairly good for the two others. So we'll yeah, we'll take it from there.

Moderator

Yeah. Thank you. And, as I mentioned, many of the questions are, of course, regarding timing and when, but one question is more specific. It is when you have solved the encapsulation step and you're ready to manufacture-

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Yeah

Moderator

... how much time do you estimate it will take for customers to evaluate the final battery before they-

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Yes. That's where I think we will announce each and every shipment.

Moderator

Mm

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

... to different customers, not for the financial community. But we want to demonstrate to all these customers and technology partners that we have solved the final step. We want to create this competitive situation, this competitive understanding. That is time. If you want access to this battery technology, this is not like red wine. You're in a hurry, because we do have limited capacity to undertake specific needs for each customer.

Moderator

Mm.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

So we want to create this competitive atmosphere, and that, to me, sort of is the guarantee that once we start to ship, that will quickly turn from a sort of, "Yes, this is interesting," to, "Shit, we need to get our act together and move.

Moderator

Mm-mm. Good. And regarding costs in the company, are you seeking more people in management or in production facilities near term, or are you good as it stands?

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Near term, as I said, we are now running two shifts.

Moderator

Mm

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

... seven days a week.

Moderator

Mm.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

We need a few more employees, then that will bring us up to forty-

Moderator

Mm

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

... in total.

Moderator

Mm.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

That will allow us to run, yes, as I said, three shifts, seven days a week. Beyond that, it's just incremental, certain capacities that we will add for now.

Moderator

Mm.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

But in the longer run, for this to become the battery technology incubator, running a manufacturing process for defined number of customers, difficult, demanding customers, undertake joint development agreements, and to support service royalty agreements, we're envisioning a total of 55-60 employees all in all. So that's the game plan.

Moderator

You now mentioned development agreements also. Timeframe for such agreements, is 2024 realistic, or should we be looking to 2025?

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

I believe that we are approaching too quickly the end of 2024-

Moderator

Yeah

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

... to get that, in place.

Moderator

Yeah, yeah.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

So that's... Yeah.

Moderator

Yeah. And the sign-in processes for the devices, they tend to be longer processes when looking at key products in the past. But can your batteries drop straight into existing design of of-

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Yes, that's also... I've tried to sort of not go too far down-

Moderator

Yeah

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

... into the level of details there.

Moderator

Yeah.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

but the fact that you can surface mount our batteries in a regular clean room, it's very easy mountable battery technology. That allows it to sort of quickly, once the customer is comfortable with the functionality and the quality of the battery, it's a fairly sort of quick and easy way of integrating this battery technology into your current battery or into your current electronic device.

Moderator

Mm, mm. Good. Yeah, I think we have been on most of the topics. There, some have asked about the trading halt that was in-

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Yes

Moderator

... the share just prior to the prior placement we also did. But, you can just maybe comment on that, if there are any new... I mean-

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

There's nothing new there.

Moderator

No.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

It is what it is.

Moderator

Yeah.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

We did what we had to do. Didn't like what we saw, so we acted.

Moderator

You acted, and I believe the Oslo Stock Exchange are looking into-

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

They are.

Moderator

Yeah.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

So-

Moderator

It's solved.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

For us-

Moderator

Yeah

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

... it's water under the bridge.

Moderator

Yeah. And then, I think we can take one last question. Did you see any possibilities, or are you seeking any government grants in the U.S. or,

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Yes. Yes, we are.

Moderator

Yeah.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

That's a good question. When I started, we were realistically looking at grant support mechanisms in the magnitude of tens of thousands of dollars. We've been now in the range of hundred thousand dollars, moving towards this type of battery technology and upwards. Suddenly, we engage with much larger players, material suppliers, that will give us the necessary credibility to tap into the larger million-dollar grant opportunities. So that's kind of the roadmap for our grant-

Moderator

Mm

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

... and support mechanism.

Moderator

Yeah.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Mm.

Moderator

And then I think the last question we have been on this topic-

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Mm-hmm

Moderator

... but many investors are, of course, waiting for the news regarding the start of large-scale production.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Mm-hmm.

Moderator

But if you can comment a little bit about the pipeline, what do you... Is there anything the investors are overseeing, if they can expect maybe joint development agreements or agreements regarding future license productions or expansion of production facilities, et cetera? Is there any other news you think could be highly relevant on that topic?

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Of course, when you look at this entire sort of market and the market opportunity, I talked about the IoT, the competitors stating their intentions. It is a market that is sort of attracting more and more attention.

Moderator

Mm.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

That's very attractive to us because that makes it much easier to make the splash, announcing, "Now we are manufacturing in a consistent manner, and we're shipping these type of batteries." That will bring about a lot of new things that we know, but it would be too speculative to start talking about it.

Moderator

Yeah, I understand. Well, I think that sums it up. And thank you very much, Terje, for a great Q&A session and a great presentation. As I mentioned earlier, I would recommend to look at the Accelerate Capital report that is on your webpage, on the analyst coverage. If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to Arctic or the company, and thank you very much.

Terje Rogne
Chairman, Ensurge Micropower

Thank you. Thank you all. Been a pleasure. Thank you.

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