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Earnings Call: Q2 2022

Aug 18, 2022

Operator

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the MPCC Q2 2022 Earnings Conference Call. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. If you wish to ask a question via the webcast, please use the Q&A box available on the webcast link anytime during the conference. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Constantin Baack. Please go ahead.

Constantin Baack
CEO, MPC Container Ships

Thank you, operator, and good afternoon and good morning, everyone. This is Constantin Baack, CEO of MPC Container Ships, and I would like to welcome you to our Q2 2022 Earnings Call. Thank you for joining us today to discuss MPC Container Ships' Second Quarter Earnings. This morning, we have issued a stock market announcement covering MPCC's second quarter results for the period ending June 30th, 2022. The release, as well as the accompanying presentation for this session, are available on the investor and media section of our website. Please be advised that the material provided and our discussion today contain certain forward-looking statements and indicative figures. Actual results may differ materially from those stated or implied by forward-looking statements due to the risk and uncertainties associated with our business. Before I start with the presentation, let me direct a few words as a little preamble.

We are pleased to report another strong quarter for MPC Container Ships in which we have been able to continue to sustainably grow our earnings and profits amid macro uncertainties. Consequently, we have announced a recurring dividend for the second quarter 2022, which is around 15% higher than in the previous quarter. Year to date, MPCC has, as such, declared dividends of more than NOK 350 million, emphasizing our commitment to return capital to shareholders. Despite geopolitical and macroeconomic uncertainties, the container charter market continues to be historically strong. We'll touch on the market in more detail as we go through, but I would like to emphasize that, in particular, our segment of the container market is still robust at elevated levels, although charter periods have decreased slightly over the quarter. Nevertheless, charter rates are still at multiple of pre-pandemic levels, as available tonnage remains very thin.

On that note, I would like to start with today's presentation, commencing with Q2 year-to-date's company highlights, followed by a market update, and concluding with a company outlook. Turning to slide four, which provides a snapshot of our key pillars in terms of fleet, financial standing, strategic focus, and corporate setup. As one of the leading intra-regional tonnage providers, we presently own and operate a fleet of 68 vessels, which includes our four newbuilds, NJV vessels, with a total capacity of roughly 150,000 TEU. Over the past years and past quarters, we have rolled out a clear and solid chartering strategy creating value for our shareholders.

Over the past quarters, we have focused on reshuffling the balance sheets, and we now have a very solid balance sheet with moderate to low leverage and 34 unencumbered vessels, providing us with a high flexibility and discretion for our capital allocation decisions, in particular, the ability to return capital to investors. We have furthermore locked in long-term charters in order to build a sizable contract or charter contract and projected EBITDA backlog of $1.8 billion and $1.4 billion, respectively. Shipping is a cyclical and certainly capital-intensive business, and therefore we believe that you know having a very clear and rational set of principles when it comes to decision-making and capital allocation is key and is required to continue to develop our company.

We firmly believe we have walked the talk in that respect by executing on a clear strategy which centers around mitigation of residual value risk and placing an emphasis on the deployment of capital in certain phases and placing an emphasis on returning capital to shareholders in other phases. That remains our clear priority going forward. In addition, and finally, for this slide, we continue to operate in our well-established corporate setup. We put high priority on transparent corporate governance, strong ESG commitment, and certainly, our strong execution capabilities. Please turn to the next slide, page five of the presentation.

As already alluded to in my initial words, we are pleased to report a strong financial performance in Q2 2022, as you can see on the left-hand side in the table, with basically all KPIs significantly above the compared period in last year, both in terms of performance indicators but also balance sheet items, as illustrated by the various multiples shown in the table on this slide. From a performance standpoint, at $152 million revenues, we're around 2.2x and hence significantly above the Q2 2021 levels. Similarly, EBITDA and also earnings per share came in significantly above prior year's levels. As I said, throughout the benchmark, most of the KPIs have improved. That also includes some operational KPIs like vessel utilization, and also the average TCE that we were able to generate during this quarter.

Furthermore, on the back of that, we have also increased our revenue and EBITDA guidance for the full year 2022 to the range of $570 million-$585 million when it comes to revenues and $470 million-$490 million when it comes to EBITDA for 2022. Looking at the financial position of the company as per end of Q2, we had a cash balance of around $86 million. The same applies, on a positive note to the developments of our equity ratio, now standing at 73%, and the financial leverage at 22%, both improvements compared to last quarter but also to the second quarter 2021. Further details on our Q2 financials are made available in the appendix of this presentation and are also accessible through our website, via our Q2 financial report.

Now, on the right-hand side, a few year-to-date updates, information, and I will not run through all of them, but let me highlight a few. Again, the update of the guidance I had already mentioned. We have also seen improvement of many of the operational KPIs, a continued focus in the market that still is affected by certain COVID implications, in particular in Asia, but also by inflation, as one example. We continuously focus on OpEx and CapEx and, of course, crew welfare. We have concluded six dry dockings, year to date 2022, with another seven likely to happen in the second half of this year. We have executed on our distribution plan. As mentioned previously, year to date, $271 million in dividends have been declared and distributed to shareholders until that date.

Today, we have declared, firstly, a recurring dividend of $0.15 per share, or roughly $67 million, for Q2. We have also declared an event-driven distribution of $0.04 per share, or roughly $17 million. That has been resolved by the board. While in our earlier press release today, we have still mentioned that the handover of our Serafina, which is linked to this event-driven distribution, is pending, it has, in the meantime, been successfully handed over and therefore concluded today. On that note, let me continue with the next page, basically running you through our value approach, with three strategic pillars, being distributions, financial flexibility, and accretive growth measures. I already stressed that we place a clear emphasis on returning capital to investors.

At the moment, we have we look at a very strong cash generation and EBITDA backlog, and we have again increased our dividend for this quarter compared to the previous quarters. We are committed to our very clear and stringent distribution policy of distributing 75% of adjusted net profit as a recurring distribution on a quarterly basis. In addition, to the point I mentioned just earlier on the AS Serafina, we will also continue to selectively consider the sale of vessels if accretive and if we believe the price is attractive in this market environment, and then also distribute capital back to investors on that basis. Furthermore, obviously subject to the share price development, we would also as part of our distribution strategy consider share buybacks, but again that is subject to share price development over time.

Financial flexibility, we operate on, I would argue, an industry low leverage of roughly 20%. We have done debt repayments of $45 million year to date, and the debt outstanding on a gross basis is $190 million as per the balance sheet date, Q2, with the net debt position being around $100 million, as per the balance sheet date end of Q2. We will maintain and put a clear emphasis on maintaining a very high balance sheet flexibility, which includes unencumbered vessels, or a large number of vessels being unencumbered, and also having ideally flexible instruments like the two revolving credit facilities that we have in place at hand. In addition, there are no debt maturities until 2024, so we have a very clear and transparent runway when it comes to our debt obligations and our flexibility.

Finally, and very importantly, we will continue to adhere to a very rational portfolio management approach, as evidenced by the you know selective sale of certain vessels. We have sold and handed over three vessels for around $106 million in proceeds in the first quarter this year. The AS Serafina, which has effectively been handed over now in Q3 but has also been alluded to earlier, will generate or has actually generated $34 million in gross proceeds. Out of that, we will dividend out and pay this event-driven distribution in connection with the recurring dividend in the course of September. Furthermore, we have also executed on our selective fleet renewal.

We will always adhere to our principle of mitigation of residual value risk. We have done so in the two newbuild projects that we have executed in year to date 2022, one being the two 5,500 TEU vessels where we look at a CapEx of around $144 million and an EBITDA backlog roughly in the same figure, so fully risking over the initial charter. We believe that is an attractive and interesting way to allocate capital selectively, but only in conjunction with a charter commitment. Furthermore, we have announced the contracting of two carbon-neutral newbuilds, 1,300 TEU, where we look at CapEx of around $80 million with a very solid 15-year charter against this commitment, with an EBITDA backlog of around $140 million.

Those would be transactions that we deem accretive and attractive, but we believe they will have to be very selectively chosen going forward. As I mentioned earlier, the clear priority in terms of capital allocation remains on the distribution, and any commitment we have taken so far on those two newbuilds has zero impact on our ability to pay dividends and the volume of our dividends going forward for the next couple of years. On that note, let me move forward to the next slide, slide seven, where we have kind of illustrated the distributions or dividends, year to date, from left to right. It's the dividends we have paid in February and March as event-driven and recurring, the dividend we have paid end of May, and the dividend that is expected by the end of September 2022.

The grayish part are event-driven distributions or dividends related to vessel sales, and the blue part of the column relates to the recurring dividend. As you can see, the recurring dividend, in line with our improved profitability, has increased quarter- by- quarter, and we expect that to be very solid going forward on the back of our existing charter backlog. The cumulative yield, looking at today's market cap and the dividends paid year to date or announced today, translates into roughly 33%, which is a very significant yield in our perspective. Overall, we have cumulative distributions of around $355 million or NOK 3.5 billion year to date on that basis, or a cumulative distribution in NOK per share of just a shade below 8 NOK for 2022 so far. Let me now continue with a short market update.

Recently, geopolitical and macroeconomic uncertainties have increased globally. There are certainly two market developments, being inflationary pressure from the COVID-19 rescue packages, as well as the Russia-Ukraine conflict that put significant upward pressure on certain prices, energy prices, etc., and simultaneously put pressure on the global economy. Consequently, the general macro outlook in terms of GDP growth has been revised downwards. Having said that, if you look at the container markets, and that is now on slide number nine, the weakening of the global economic environment and the induced market uncertainty has also had some impact on the container vessel industry. This is visible, in particular, with a slight softening of freight rates, as can be seen on the top left of this chart. At the same time, rates and also congestions as well as disruptions on the right-hand side remain at record levels.

While there is a softening, the level is still extremely high, on both the disruption figures as well as the overall freight rates. As you can see on the top left, especially spot rates, so the red line is the SCFI, and the blue line is the CCFI, so one is the spot rates and one is the contract rates, so longer-term rates. Especially the spot rates have come down. However, as I mentioned, freight rates remain at very high levels historically and certainly well above pre-COVID levels as well. On the right-hand side, you can see port congestion, which remains at record high levels. Will the situation improve anytime soon? I doubt it.

While port congestion, for example, at the U.S. West Coast, has improved somewhat, it remains at record levels at the U.S. East Coast, and certainly driven by Russia-Ukraine conflict and COVID-19 policies in Asia, it is also at record levels in the E.U. as well as Asia. Please turn now, though, to slide 10, where we now drill a bit deeper on the intricacies of the charter market and vessel availability. While freight rates have already softened somewhat, time charter rates are still near record high. The reason is that, with the market surge over the past 24 months, vessel availability has decreased to almost negligible levels, as you can see on the right-hand side.

Usually, if you move into a new year, start of the year, you have around 1,500 vessels available to the charter market across sizes and sectors, and that has been reduced significantly due to the significant number of fixtures that have been concluded over the course of the last couple of months, in particular the first quarter of this year. Going forward, we expect for the rest of the year way fewer fixtures than one would usually see, leading to a stability in the charter market. Also for 2023, we do not expect to see anywhere near the 1,500 vessels that would usually be available to the charter market in historic years. We believe that will be below 500 vessels based on our own analysis. Having said that, also, in terms of idle vessels, we are at a very low point. Only 66 vessels are idle.

A lot of vessels are also in dry dock situations, so we are certainly positive when it comes to vessel availability and hence stability of the market. That relates to time charter rates and simple vessel availability if we now look at more specifically also at charter periods and redelivery windows as well as forward fixtures, which is something that we have stressed over the last quarters in our quarterly reporting. We have seen quite a contraction in charter periods, so rates remained extremely stable, but periods have come down somewhat, which is also linked to the fact that there's more hesitance and some more uncertainty on the side of the liners, not necessarily because there are more vessels available to the market or there's less demand.

We clearly see that dip on the left-hand side in the right lane where you see the reduction in charter periods. That is obviously a development that is a downturn compared to last quarter, however, still at historically very high rates. Therefore, we believe this is nothing to be overly concerned about, going forward. Periods are still prolonged compared to, you know, previous years, and fixtures still get done. However, both the periods have been a bit shorter, as well as the forward fixing activity, and that's on the right-hand side, has also come down a bit. During the first quarter, we have fixed 18 out of our 24 open positions for this year. Q2, we have only done one fixture, and we have five more fixtures ahead for the rest of the year.

We see that there's a bit less traction when it comes to forward fixing, and we are a bit more back to normality where you fix vessels 30 to 40 days ahead of charter expiry. On that note, let me turn from a more specific charter market, from charter market details to the bigger picture in terms of supply and demand development. We do see a healthy midterm outlook, in particular for our size and segment. On the left-hand side here, you can see the overall market where there's obviously a significant supply growth versus a demand growth that is lagging behind, is expected to lag behind for the years to come.

Having said that does not factor in any implications from new regulation such as slow steaming, which we expect will be a very tangible reaction by the market. If you listen to the CEOs of the big liner companies, everyone expects that to impact the capacity in the market by somewhere between 5%-15%, depending on the trade, depending on the vessel size, etc. That is not factored in here. We also believe that there might be a bit of slippage when it comes to vessel deliveries into the market. This is a static analysis for the total market, which we believe still has some headroom to develop, and the gap between supply and demand coming down.

On the right-hand side, very specifically and encouraging from our standpoint is the supply and demand situation for intra-regional trades, the trades in which we are involved. We look at a still fairly low order book when it comes to the smaller vessel sizes. We look at a low fleet growth of around 1% CAGR 2021 to 2025 in the sub-5,000 TEU segment, and we see a strong trade growth of intra-regional trades. We also believe that, you know, reshuffling of supply chains, etc., will contribute to that even further. We therefore are positive when it comes to the overall supply and demand growth development and outlook for our specific segment.

Now, from market to company outlook and company specifics, let me move forward to slide 14, where we have shown the charter backlog and forward visibility in a format that we have commonly used in previous quarters. From left to right, on the left-hand side, you can see the Q3 and Q4 forward. The two columns represent the open days and fixed days, operating days of the vessels. We basically see we are almost sold out for the rest of the year. We have five more vessels to be fixed, more towards the end of this year, representing the number of open days. We have a secured TCE of around mid-$31,000 per day on the fixed days, and we have a secured revenue of around $300 million-$315 million for the remainder of 2022. Most of the open positions, as I said, are in Q4 2022.

If you now take a bit of a broader picture on the years ahead, on the right-hand side, first of all, you can see from top to bottom the EBITDA and revenue backlog, so $1.8 billion in revenues and projected EBITDA backlog of around $1.4 billion. You can see from left to right the respective figures in terms of fixed days, open days, contracted forward TCE, and contracted forward revenues for the second half of 2022 in aggregate, as well as 2023 and 2024, as well as 2025, and then also 2026 forward. Interestingly, we have quite a visibility for the years ahead, in terms of contracted revenues and certainly contracted rates and days, yet we still have some open days in particular from 2025 onwards. We are very positively looking forward on the basis of our charter backlog.

Now, what does that mean in terms of you know where we are from a risk standpoint? We have illustrated on slide 15 a bit of an overview where we have looked at the net interest bearing debt as per end of Q2, added the market cap as per I think yesterday, arriving at an enterprise value of $1.2 billion. If you then deduct the scrap value of the vessels as the bare minimum plus the projected EBITDA of $1.4 billion, as well as the proceeds from the vessel sale that has taken place today, we see an excess value above the current enterprise value of more than half a billion U.S. dollars. We believe from a pure enterprise coverage standpoint we are very well positioned going forward.

That is obviously the protection from a downside perspective. On the other hand, we have shown, and also that is in line with figures that we've shown in previous quarters, a bit of a sensitivity to show the significant potential for further sustainable distributions going forward. What have we done? On the top of this slide, we have shown, for 2023, 2024, and 2025, operating revenues, EBITDA and net profit, excluding potential special effects. This is a pure sensitivity on the open days, derived from the slide that I alluded to earlier.

That means we have, at current market rates, which for the blended basket of our vessel is around $40,500 per day, we arrive at these figures, and we will continue, obviously, to apply our clear and transparent distribution policy so everyone can derive at dividend scenarios and return scenarios, which we believe is very attractive in this market environment given our backlog, and the application of our policy. On the lower end of this, lower part of the slide, we have run that number on the basis of the 10-year historical average according to Clarksons for our vessel basket, which is, roughly $16,500 per day. That obviously gives you lower figures but shows you a bit of the sensitivity, and the fact that we do have a lot of charters locked in, and there's a very clear path to sustainable distributions in our view, going forward.

On that note, let me conclude before we open the floor for questions on a bit of an outlook and where we stand. We see from a pure market assessment standpoint that, you know, the container market remains historically strong despite geopolitical and macro uncertainty. We continue to witness severe global supply chain disruptions and congestions globally, and that is certainly here to stay, at least for the foreseeable months and quarters in our view. In addition, the industry landscape will be affected by energy transition and decarbonization of the industry, which will induce capacity contraction in our view, for example, through slow steaming. Overall, and again, we alluded to that as well, we see a favorable outlook for intra-regional trades for various reasons explained, in particular the diversification of supply chains, which we believe will likely benefit intra-regional trade lanes disproportionately.

We also see a very solid demand growth in those regions. At MPCC, we believe with our very low leverage and our strong cash generation, we are very well positioned to, not only, you know, continue our path of prioritizing distributions to shareholders but also to make use of opportunities as and if they arise. We will continue with a very clear focus on mitigating various residual risk in any decision we take and also selectively explore the possibility of vessel sales or attractive charter opportunities with our existing fleet. On that note, I would like to hand back to you, operator, and I'm looking forward to receiving questions.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. Please stand by while we compile the new Q&A queue. We will now take the first question. Please stand by. The first question comes from the line of Frode Mørkedal from Clarksons. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Frode Mørkedal
Managing Director of Shipping Equity Research, Clarksons Platou Securities

Thank you. Hi, guys. I had a question on your capital allocation.

Operator

Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Frode Mørkedal
Managing Director of Shipping Equity Research, Clarksons Platou Securities

Thank you. Hi, guys. I had a question on your CapEx, your thought process there. I guess vessel sales could have been used to buy back shares, at least if I look at the current backlog you have and just assume scrap value at the end. The stock is trading well below that, right? It makes attractive to buy back shares in my view. Maybe if you could talk about that.

Constantin Baack
CEO, MPC Container Ships

Sure. Thanks, Frode, for the question. Yes. I mean, our capital allocation policy foresees, and that's why we use the term distributions and not necessarily dividends, because we want to, you know, take the right decision at the right point in time while it's being, let's say, a reliable party to return capital to investors. We believe the dividend is a very meaningful and attractive measure. We, by the way, pay the dividend out of share premium, which means it's tax-free, also to other jurisdictions than, for example, Norwegian investors. We believe that is a very important feature. Having said that, we would and I mentioned that earlier, we would not rule out share buybacks. Obviously, share buyback, the price has to be right. We cannot be exposed to any, let's say, insider projects that we're working at.

We will have to, you know, consider the close periods, etc. so having said that, I mean, it definitely is one of the options that we have on the table, and it's nothing that we would rule out. We believe that, you know, being clear in the distribution and reliable to the investor community in terms of walking the talk on our quarterly distributions, that is clearly the way to go about it. Of course, you know, if there were a few vessel sales lined up, that could in any event constitute an opportunity to buy back shares. Having said that, we haven't done it yet. Again, share price has to be in the right vicinity.

We have to be able to act, as far as, you know, as I said, close periods or insider-related matters are concerned. Then we are definitely considering share buyback, as another option. It is being discussed with the board on a regular basis, and I would not rule out that we see something happening in the not-too-distant future. However, we believe to be a reliable partner on the dividends is also extremely valuable to shareholders.

Frode Mørkedal
Managing Director of Shipping Equity Research, Clarksons Platou Securities

Yeah. I agree. Makes sense. Second question is, more about the macro environment. Clearly, you have a very strong backlog, but I guess the outlook for the container ship market is, at least for a slowdown, and maybe we could have a recession, etc., right? Maybe if you could talk about where MPC is positioned in this type of environment and how you would navigate, if there were softer periods ahead, right, in terms of your balance sheet and, you know, decision process thinking there.

Constantin Baack
CEO, MPC Container Ships

Sure. I mean, in terms of balance sheet, we have been clear, and I think that's the, I would almost say, the unique feature when you look at our cash generation. We do not only allocate everything to dividends, or to distributions but a very significant part of our cash generation. We continue to deleverage the balance sheet, which is probably a bit unusual in a market like this. We believe it's the right thing to do. We believe having flexibility, should you know the future get a bit rougher in terms of the waters, we believe that will also constitute opportunities.

To have a very solid balance sheet structure with, you know, a significant part of the fleet unencumbered, low leverage, and ability to act, is something where we believe we will have a very attractive proposition and market position going forward. We believe that the emphasis is put on the right things, right, deleverage, while it's not compromising on the dividends, and yet being able to act, as opportunities arise. That's more the company position. Now, to your question on general macro environment, of course. I mean, the geopolitical situation is tense, you know, it's very difficult to read. I think to have a high degree of flexibility in your balance sheet is a very solid preparation for whatever comes ahead.

At the same time, vessel availability, as I mentioned before, is very limited. We believe that, you know, the new regulation will lead to a significant, at least lower speeds, certainly in specific trades. We see that actually as an opportunity from a pure capacity standpoint. While, you know, the overall macro environment is very difficult to read, I certainly believe that we are well positioned and our counterparties, to be frank, I mean, the top 10 liners, they all have net debt of zero. We believe, you know, the counterparties on our contract are very well positioned. We are actually just, you know, continuing to roll out our strategy, taking rational decisions when it comes to potential selective investments. I would like to highlight the word selectively and stick to our capital allocation policy, including deleveraging of the balance sheet.

Frode Mørkedal
Managing Director of Shipping Equity Research, Clarksons Platou Securities

Great. Thanks. Thank you very much.

Constantin Baack
CEO, MPC Container Ships

Thanks, Frode.

Operator

There are no more questions on the phones at this time. Please continue.

Constantin Baack
CEO, MPC Container Ships

Thanks, operator. There are a number of questions through the web, which I'm happy to take, unless you chip in with more questions through the line. There is one question by Friedrich Kösters. He's asking about, you know, five vessels will come off charter before year-end. One of these is already off charter, AS Alexandria. Will all or some of these vessels be marketed for sale, or why has none of them secured a new charter yet? We are, as we have done in the past, considering both options, chartering out vessels or potentially even selling vessels, as we have done on previous occasions. That's the thought process there from our side. If you look at the Alexandria, yeah, she is off charter, but she's now in dry dock.

That is the reason, and we will obviously continue to market her. We are positive that we will find a very good employment. I mean, the question is, as I mentioned earlier, the duration, as durations have come down a bit, as alluded to in the market section, and obviously, a potential sale is also something to seriously consider. We would stick to our game plan of being very rational in the decision to sell or charter out a vessel. We believe the market has obviously been less active by virtue of fewer vessels being available, yet rates are still very solid. We are not overly concerned about the charter opportunities out there, and will take them as we move forward.

As I said earlier, forward fixing activity that has come down, but that has been a very unique and almost unheard-of development that we have seen during the first quarter of this year. We are now more back to the normal days where you extend the charter, or renew a charter, 30-40 days ahead of charter expiry or when the vessel comes out of dry dock. That is also the case for AS Alexandria. There is another question by Lars-Erik Hetsnes. Due to the lack of understanding from the journalists, analyst resources, could MPCC clarify the newbuilds will not impact dividends? There has been a lot of comments from different broker house analysts that clearly show lack of understanding.

We can just repeat and explain in more detail that the newbuilds that we have carried out have zero impact on our dividend capacity, our dividends. That is one reason why we have the dividend policy in place related to 70% of net profit, 75% of net profit. Any investments into the newbuilds will have no impact during the construction or now on net earnings, as that is a balance sheet and cash flow development, and we already generate enough cash to do so. It has zero impact on the dividend capacity. To the contrary, it actually has a positive impact on the earnings and dividend capacity going forward because we have secured a significant revenue and EBITDA backlog for those four newbuilds.

We have also communicated that to the analyst community, and I'm hopeful that some of them are here on the call. We just had Frode asking a question. I think everyone is hopefully on the right page there, what the newbuilds will do and will not do in terms of rather enhancing our dividend capacity down the road with zero impact today. There's another question from Martin Hughes. Is there any plans to start share buyback program? Okay. I think I answered that when I replied to Frode. I will not repeat that. Martin, if you have any further questions, please clarify that question in a bit more detail. There's a question of Pål Huisman. If I understand the CII rating correct, the rating will be calculated the following year.

What incentives will the charters have to maintain a good CII rating when the charter agreement expires? We generally have, and that is a very important feature, so-called CII clauses in our charter parties that mean that charters will have to basically utilize our vessel in the calls with a certain rating scheme, meaning they cannot just, you know, we will not be penalized by them running the ships. To the contrary, they have to stick to a certain CII rating scheme, and that is in general a C rating, as part of our charter agreements. There's another question by Pål Huisman. Because of the current charter market with lower durations and ship values remaining high, is it more accretive to sell ships, or do you expect the market to be strong even after the one-year duration is over?

Yes, a vessel sale, and I think that is part of my earlier answer to the question. We would always consider a vessel sale. Certainly, if you can arbitrage between the realizable sale price for a ship and the implied charter price or value by a ship, we would always consider that at the point in time where a charter renewal is possible and also for vessels that are operable. That is part of our decision-making process. I think the sale of AS Serafina proves this, that we do not shy away if there's an attractive deal. By the way, the AS Serafina, in terms of an implied NAV per share of that sale, that is probably slightly above NOK 40 per share.

A significant premium to the implied value by the current trading. We would always want to make use of these kind of opportunities that are accretive to our company and shareholders on a per-share basis. There's another question by Pål Huisman. How much speed reduction is required to keep your fleet EEXI and CII compliant? Will this affect any of the existing charter agreements? As I said, I mean, there are EEXI and CII clauses in the charter agreements that we have well considered. In addition, speed reduction really depends on the trading profile. What we do know is that liners are already adjusting their services and their trading profiles to some extent where our vessels are employed. It's a question that cannot be easily answered, at least not black and white.

Certain trades, in particular, for example, we did an analysis on the Caribs where we believe there will be a significant impact on speeds. We have spoken to various operators in that region who are considering to reshuffle their services. We do believe that there will be a quite significant speed reduction, because of the trading pattern of the vessels. That's my answer to that question. There's a question by [Vegard Sæle]. My compliments on a good quarter improving corporate governance. You still have 2022 open fixtures. That is surprising. Are these being held open for sale, or are you doing a wait-and-see game with charterers? In general, as I said, the market is a bit more quiet, and simply the dynamics in the market have changed.

That, I mean, we believe that we have a very solid kind of remaining charter book of five vessels, and we will find employment. Obviously, to keep optionality on a potential sale is one of the options. As an example, the AS Serafina got sold to an operator. If you want to have the option to sell a vessel to an operator, you rather want to have no charter attached to it, because that provides for a different set of potential buyers on assets. Therefore, we actually feel very comfortable with a mix of our upcoming charters for the remainder of this year. There's a question by Erik Hovi.

The forward fixing windows closing, are you seeing the same on durations, or is it still likely to see three-year or longer than historically normal charters for the open positions you have for the remainder of 2022 and for 2023? It's certainly periods have come down, but there are certainly still also longer periods available. It really depends on the vessel position and individual situation. As I said, the market has been a bit less active just by virtue of fewer vessels being available. We will consider, you know, sale, short-term charter, long-term charter when the time is right. You know, the forward fixing dynamics have simply changed in this market environment. Question by Dr. [Promenne]. What kind of purchase do you look at, single buy or company, etc.?

I'm not sure what that exactly means, but if that relates to potential acquisitions, as I said, we will be selective on acquisitions. We believe, you know, the market is cyclically on the higher side of things. To carry out purchases, we would always follow our principle of mitigating residual value risk. If there was a purchase, for example, the newbuilds that we have done, we would only consider that if there's a full de-risking over the charter period. In general, we would be more selective. As you've seen with AS Serafina, we would probably also consider to be on the selling side in the current market environment. There is another question by Martin Bengtström.

Do you feel a turning point where it is more attractive to sell ships rather than forward fix on long-term contracts, or do you still believe it is more attractive to forward fix most available ships? Again, I think, you know, if you look back the last 18 months, we have taken different decisions to buy, to sell, to charter out. We believe, you know, we will do that according to our principles and have done that, at least from our standpoint, in a way that we have generated value to the company and shareholders, and we will continue to do that. Maybe at this point in time, one is more on the selling side of assets than the buying side. However, both will have to be carefully and cautiously considered, and not taken easily.

There's a question by Ian Lewis. What's your view on IMO's carbon reduction legislation on the feeder container ship sector? Is the MPCC fleet ready for the introduction of EEXI and CII? Will you have to scrap older ships with low ratings, TRE? The answer to that is I don't see any scrapping imminently in front of our doorstep. As I said, we have certain EEXI, CII clauses in our charter parties. Vessels will not be operated, at least not in the next couple of quarters and months and certainly not 2023. That would suggest any of such measures. Of course, the carbon reduction legislation will have a steeper impact on certain size segments by virtue of the formula and also certain regions by virtue of the trading pattern.

We believe that is something that is currently being reshuffled also by the liner operators. As I said, we believe that there will be certainly slow steaming on the cards, that will play a significant role for the years ahead. Another question by Pål Huisman. Is there any accretive acquisition in the market at this point? Well, we believe that the newbuilding deals we've done, they have required quite some preparatory work, and they are certainly, I would argue, unique in the way we have conducted them, and they are not necessarily replicable. Therefore, we want to be very selective, and we would rather be cautious when it comes to certain growth investments, at this point in time, also given the macro uncertainty. There's a question by Renat Matthios.

Are there option contracts for the MPCC share, like for Hapag-Lloyd shares at the Euronext in Germany? Well, it is up to the respective stock exchanges to offer option series on the stocks listed. Stock exchanges will consider listing of option series if there is a demand from market participants. I can only then encourage you to take that up with the respective stock exchange. At this stage, that is not present. There's a question by Klaus Hansen. Can you give some color on the prospects for cascading as bigger newbuilds hit the market? How much of port infrastructure and MPCC's core trade areas can accommodate larger vessels? That is obviously a relevant question, yet a question that cannot be answered black and white. Obviously, cascading has taken place since there is container shipping. There will continue to be cascading going forward.

I have no doubt about it. There are not just port infrastructure restrictions that dictate the way this might be conducted or not. There's also, you know, port rotation schemes, you know, schedule integrity considerations, etc. It is much more complex. We have seen some cascading in intra-Asian trades where Baby Panamaxes have moved in. However, they have basically moved into that market segment, the intra-Asian trade, that has grown most significantly over the last decade. They have rather taken up the incremental demand than have actually pushed out any smaller vessels. If you look on the absolute terms, for example, there are still basically the same number of smaller vessels employed in these kind of trade lanes.

If you now look at the larger vessels in the order book, well, they would probably shift the trading pattern, but they will not at all cascade into all the smaller trades. It's impossible by virtue of port turnaround times, schedule integrity, as well as the physical restrictions you alluded to in your question here. We are certainly based on the existing order book for the smaller vessels and the age profile of the smaller vessels. We are still very positive that, you know, cascading, yes, will happen, but it will not kind of mean a complete game changer to the smaller vessel segment, as far as our view is concerned.

To the contrary, we still believe that looking at the demand developments, and port rotations, etc., and the intra-regional trades as such still create a very attractive, let's say, field for growth for our vessels and sizes. There's a question by Alexander Jagoda. Revenues in H1 2022 was $295 million. The presentation on slide 14 assumes that $315 million is contracted for H2. When I add both, I come with $600 million. That refers to the revenue guidance of $570 million-$585 million. Yes, indeed, there is a bit of slack. There is also dockings coming up. This is the contracted revenues. We also have to consider, you know, prolonged docking times, for example, leading to off-hire.

On the same side, it's not, it cannot be completely ruled out that revenues come in higher than what we have anticipated. But there are risks on the cost side as well as on the revenue side when it comes to off-hire that have led to our current guidance. That is the guidance we believe is the best guidance we can give at this point in time. Are there any further questions through the line, operator? I don't see any additional questions through the web here, but I would wait another minute and at least give you the chance to bring in questions through the phone line if there are any.

Operator

There are no questions at the moment. Just as a reminder for participants on the phone, if you wish to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone. There are no questions on the phones. Please continue.

Constantin Baack
CEO, MPC Container Ships

There are no questions through the web. Since there were quite a few, I'm assuming that there are no further questions. Obviously, feel free to reach out through our IR box. Operator, I would like to thank you for hosting the event. I would like to thank everyone for their participation, active participation, and for their time. We look forward to the rest of the year as MPC Container Ships. I wish everyone a pleasant day. Thank you. Bye-bye.

Operator

That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating.

Constantin Baack
CEO, MPC Container Ships

As MPC Container Ships. I wish everyone a pleasant day.

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