Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Subsea 7 renewables combination with OHT conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be the question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star and one on your telephone keypad. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. If you require any further assistance over the phone, please press star zero. I would now like to hand the conference over to our first speaker today, Katherine Tonks. Please go ahead.
Good morning, everyone. With me on the call today are John Evans, CEO of Subsea 7, and Rune Magnus Lundetræ, Chairman of OHT. This morning's press release is available to download on our website, along with the presentation slides that we'll be referring to during today's call. May I remind you that this call includes forward-looking statements that reflect our current views and are subject to risks, uncertainties, and assumptions. Similar wording is also included in our press release. I'll now turn the call over to John.
Thank you, Katherine. Good day, everyone, and thank you for joining this call after such short notice. Rune and I are excited to talk to you today about the transaction we announced this morning to combine Subsea 7's renewables business with OHT. We have a few slides that describe the deal, and then we'll be happy to take your questions. Let's start on slide three with the transaction structure. We've announced this morning the combination of our renewables business unit with OHT to form a new company called Seaway 7 ASA. Subsea 7 will own 72% of the combined company, and OHT shareholders will own 28%. The company will retain OHT's listing on the Euronext Growth Market in Oslo and initially have a 7% free float, as you can see depicted in the chart on the right.
It is expected the deal will complete by the end of the third quarter this year, subject to customary approvals, conditions, and relevant employee consultations. Subsequently, and in due course, the company will aim to transfer to the main market on the Oslo Bors. Throughout, Subsea 7 will retain a majority stake in Seaway 7 ASA, and we'll have access to the financial, operational, and strategic benefits of the wider Subsea 7 parent company. Turning to slide four, the board of directors of Seaway 7 ASA will comprise four directors nominated by Subsea 7 and one from OHT. Rune Magnus will be nominated as Chairman, and Stuart Fitzgerald, currently Executive Vice President of Strategy and Alliances at Subsea 7, will be appointed CEO. Torgeir Ramstad and Steph McNeill will have executive roles, and further management appointments will be announced in the near future.
Seaway 7 ASA is expected to commence trading on the 1st of October with minimum debt. OHT has net debt of $6 million at the end of the first quarter, and Subsea 7 will contribute its renewables business unit with zero debt or cash. As the parent company with a majority shareholding, Subsea 7 will provide financial support to Seaway 7 to fund its working capital needs. The boards of Subsea 7 and OHT have unanimously approved this deal based on the compelling strategic logic, although it remains subject to the approvals I mentioned earlier. Through this combination, we're creating Seaway 7 ASA, a pure-play renewables company listed in Oslo with a market-leading position in offshore fixed-wind industry.
As well as a long track record of executing large, complex projects, the company is equipped with a strong and diverse fleet of assets that enable it to install turbines, foundations, cables, and substations in a variety of different contracting modes. The high-end vessels enable efficient operations while also increasing the flexibility of our fleet as the offshore wind market becomes truly global. This installation fleet is augmented by five heavy transportation vessels that are used to transport wind structures from yards to installation sites. Heavy transportation is an increasing high-value segment, and it's critical to enable the use of a cost-efficient global renewable supply chain. Overall, we believe Seaway 7 ASA will be well-positioned to capture an increasing share of the high-growth offshore fixed-wind market.
As you can see on slide seven, which shows the annual installation of offshore wind power in gigawatts, the market is expected to grow at a compound rate of over 20% per year, with strong growth in all three regions, Europe, the U.S., and Asia. As we've said in the past, near-term, the market appears lumpy due to the timing of the licensing rounds, but as the U.S. and Asian markets in particular, the pace of growth begins to accelerate from 2025. With the vessels currently under construction and options for further new builds, Seaway 7 has access to the right assets at the right time to address this exciting market to ensure it strengthens its position as a global leader. On the following slides, we give a quick outline of each company before we circle back to look at the combination that is Seaway 7 ASA.
First, Subsea 7's renewables business on slide eight. As many of you know, we have five vessels, two heavy lift, two cable, and one support vessels. We have offices in seven countries covering the current and future hotspots of the offshore wind market, including Europe, Asia, and the U.S. We have around 500 onshore personnel and 400 offshore personnel attached to our vessels. We have a backlog at the end of Q1 of around $1.8 billion, including projects such as Seagreen and Hornsea 2 in the U.K., Kaskasi in Germany, Hollandse Kust Zuid in the Netherlands, and projects in Taiwan. At this point, I'll hand over to Rune Magnus to run through an overview of OHT and how it positions Seaway 7 ASA.
Thank you, John, and good morning, everyone. Firstly, a look at OHT overall before we highlight the two vessels under construction. As you can see on slide nine, we currently have five heavy transportation assets that are commonly used to carry wind structures, such as the jackets you can see in the photos on the right from yard in Asia and Europe to their installation site. We also have two state-of-the-art assets under constructions, Alfa Lift and Vind 1, as well as further yard options for additional vessels. OHT have offices in seven countries, including Norway, Denmark, the U.K., the U.S., Dubai, Singapore, and China, and have a lean team of 65 people onshore.
Our heavy transportation vessels are typically engaged on fixed price contracts covering all execution aspects. Our backlog of approximately $150 million relates primarily to the foundation T&I contracts that we have for Equinor's Dogger Bank A and B development in the U.K. Taking a closer look at our two new builds. On slide 10, we start with Alfa Lift. This is a custom-built foundation installation vessel equipped with a smart deck capable of installing up to 14 monopiles or 10 jackets per trip, and will be able to install in dynamic positioning modes, making it one of the most efficient installation vessels on the market. The total build cost is around $300 million, of which $175 million is outstanding currently. It is due for delivery during the first half of 2022. On slide 11, we have our second new build, Vind 1.
This jackup will be able to install the next generation of turbines of 15 MW or more, as well as monopile foundations, making it both efficient and flexible. The all-in cost is estimated at $255 million, of which $210 million is still outstanding towards the yard. More details on both of these new builds can be found in the quarterly presentation of OHT available on our website, oht.no. Bringing all this together, we have the combined fleet on page 12. The new company will have a strong leadership team, an experienced team of engineers and project managers capable of delivering the largest, most complex offshore fixed wind projects in the world. The fleet of 12 vessels will enable us to service the global marketplace with increased efficiency, reducing the need for long transits between jobs and covering the full array of installation activities, including turbines, foundations, and cables.
Our combined business will be headquartered in Oslo with a strong hub in Europe, including offices in each of the key markets of U.K., Denmark, Germany, the Netherlands, France, and Poland. We will also have a well-established presence in the U.S. with offices in Providence, Rhode Island, and Houston. Finally, in the Middle East, we will be based in the UAE, while in Asia our offices will be in China, Taiwan, and Singapore. Let me finish our discussion of Seaway 7 ASA with slide 14 showing the current bidding prospects of the combined company. The U.K. remains a fruitful market, and the CfD round scheduled for December this year should yield a number of projects. Clients include Iberdrola, SSE, Equinor, and Vattenfall. There are also a number of prospects in Germany, including two for Ørsted and Poland, where Equinor is building a presence.
Although the Taiwanese market is experiencing a number of issues, there remain prospects on the horizon, and we will take a cautious approach. The new market exploding onto the stage is undoubtedly the U.S., where we see at least six very large projects on the bidding radar, some worth up to $2 billion on an integrated or EPCI basis. The first of these, Coastal Virginia, should be awarded to the industry by the end of this year, followed by Ocean Wind, Skipjack, Empire, and Mayflower, which are expected to be awarded next year. To summarize, the bidding pipeline is strong, the outlook for longer-term growth is robust, and combined, we believe we have the industry's leading resource base and experience to capture an increased share of this market. Finally, let us put today's announcement into context for the two groups of shareholders that we represent.
From OHT's perspective, the combination with Subsea 7 renewable business represents an exciting next step for the OHT organization and our clients. We believe the combined company will offer long-term growth opportunities and create shareholder value. The offshore wind market is complex and will require large and financially robust service providers with the right combination of fleet, organization, and experience. I believe Seaway 7 is ideally positioned to be the market leader and capture an increasing share of the high-growth offshore fixed wind market. Thank you, and I'll hand back to John.
Thank you, Rune. From the perspective of Subsea 7, the transaction represents the next step in our energy transition journey. It's one that we believe will accelerate and enhance value creation for our shareholders. The combined business of Seaway 7 ASA is armed with a comprehensive fleet, an experienced management team, and is poised to forge a new enhanced growth trajectory as a global leader in offshore fixed wind. We at Subsea 7 look forward to working closely with the team at Seaway 7 in this exciting new chapter of its evolution. Now, both Rune and I are happy to take your questions. Operator, please go ahead.
Thank you. Dear participants, we will now begin the question and answer session. As a reminder, if you wish to ask a question, please press star and one on your telephone keypad and wait for your name to be announced. The first question comes from the line of Michael Alsford from Citig roup. Please ask your question.
Good morning, thanks for taking my questions. It looks like an exciting combination. Just firstly on the funding plans going forward, I think from memory, OHT has talked about the need for $40 million - $50 million of funding in addition to, I think, the facility that they were putting in place to fund the Alfa Lift vessel. I'm just wondering whether you can maybe take a step back and think about it from a kind of combined perspective, and think about what we would expect the funding requirements to be going forward, from the Subsea 7 perspective. Thanks.
Rune, I think it's probably best if I just give an overview to that question, Michael, and Rune can supplement, I guess, in terms of where we're at here. I think one of the benefits that this transaction gives is that it allows the new Subsea 7 ASA to gain the benefit of being part of the wider Subsea 7 Group. That is part of our thinking, that we will be looking at how we will fund that and how we can cover that. There's a possibility of Subsea 7 to lend to Seaway 7, in terms of how they move ahead. We also know today, as we discussed earlier, that OHT has net debt of about $6 million at the end of Q1. We're going to put our business in effectively at a sort of net debt excess cash free basis.
Really for us, we're going to work through, in the next few months, the future CapEx, and we can see that either being covered by operating cash flow and new debt facilities, which Subsea 7 will support because we have very good and strong access to the capital markets.
Yeah. The only thing I can add to that is two things this combination brings is that there will be even stronger operating cash flow in the combined company. I think also there will be more options for us to consider when it comes to meeting future obligations from renewable programs. I think we leave it at that for now, and we'll come back to the market with more details on how we plan to capitalize for the medium long term.
Great. Thanks. A quick follow-up, if I could. Just with the combination, Subsea 7 talking about staying with a majority stake, but should we therefore expect you to be sort of selling down and increasing the free float of the listed entity, or how should we think about the kind of shareholder structure over the medium term? Thank you.
Well, Michael, on that one, we've already had some discussions with the Euronext Growth market. There needs to be a minimum free float of 15%, and we're in discussions there, and they've said that they understand there's some flexibility needed to achieve that. For us, we will work at that to make sure we meet our listing requirements in due course. The main aim for Subsea 7 here is to be long-term majority shareholders in Seaway 7 ASA.
Great. Thanks. Understood. I'll hand it back.
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Haakon Amundsen from ABG Sundal Collier. Please ask your question.
Good morning, guys. A follow-up actually on the financial situation going forward. You mentioned that you will maintain the majority stake. I was just wondering, do you consider to raise fresh equity in connection with the main listing? A follow-up to that would be, what are the next leg of the investments that the new company will endeavor in terms of the various exposures that you now have in the portfolio? Thanks.
Thank you, Haakon. I guess as we covered in the previous question, we'll come back to the market closer to our closing on the view of how we will handle the capital side of it, and how we will decide whether we use equity or debt to grow the business. We will reveal that in due course as we work that through. For us, it's about that we have the flexibility to do what we'll need to do here to invest long-term. This is all about the long-term investment. The crux of this discussion was in OHT shareholders and Subsea 7, we had an alignment that longer-term, there's a good opportunity here. OHT have some very interesting options in some of their shipbuilding contracts.
And again, the new company, one of the first roles of the new company's board and management team will be to look at those, and again, to try to fit it together with the demand that we inevitably see in that curve from 2025 up to 2030. For ourselves, it's about positioning this business to be at the very top two players at the top table in this business, which is inevitably going to grow. I think the takeaway here, some interesting options that exist in the shipyard contracts that OHT have, and that the new management team on board will look at this topic, and work it through over the next few years.
All right. That's very clear. Thank you.
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Mick Pickup from Barclays. Please ask your question.
Good morning, everybody. Mick here. Couple of questions if I may, on OHT. You're selling OHT as a transporter of jackets and monopiles and ultimately installation. That business, when I used to cover it, was about moving oil and gas assets around rigs, modules, vessels around the world. Can you just talk about the business mix today in OHT and how that goes towards being wind? Secondly, you're now going into turbines. I think at last year's Capital Markets Day, you were very specific on that's not an area you wanted to go into. Why now going into it?
If I take the two--
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We'll do it this way. If I take the turbines first, Rune, maybe you come back to the transport vessels.
Yeah.
Mick Pickup, you're right that we have looked at the area that Subsea 7's business, which was primarily in array cables and foundations. That's a business that we've been very comfortable with. What's been very interesting for us is we have seen two of our main competitors use their very, very large jackups in foundation mode. What we like about the Vind 1, it's also been engineered not only to install the largest turbines, but it's a heavy duty crane, a heavy duty deck structure and jacking system, which allows it to work on the largest foundation contracts as well. For us, when we started to sit down and talk to OHT, we could see the attraction of the very top end of a jackup. If we were ever going to build a jackup, it would be the Vind 1 or Vind 1 equivalent.
Secondly, its ability to multitask between wind turbine installation and foundations will provide a very interesting flexibility for the new company. I'll hand over to Rune to talk about the heavy transport vessels.
Yeah. You're right. Historically, OHT has been a transportation company for heavy equipment and assets covering oil and gas. What we have seen in the last couple of years is an increase in activity related to offshore wind projects, and specifically transportation of monopiles and jackets as they are increasingly produced in Asia and the Middle East. Last year, we had a significant part of the EBITDA related to the transportation fleet from offshore wind-related projects. There will be still work to serve non-renewable markets, if the opportunities are there. We also see, going forward, especially from 2022 and forward, that there will be a significant increase in work related to renewable.
Okay. Can I just follow up on the offshore heavy lift market? From memory, when I used to look at this space, there was capacity coming out of Asia every time I looked at the market. What's that market like today, and are there other vessels coming to market that are capable of coming into this space?
Well, the projections we have, it's a pretty tight market going forward. It's been soft this past winter. That was expected. That was communicated by us also last fall. We see an improved market, and also an increasing number of inquiries coming in.
Okay. Thank you. Cheers.
Mick, just to supplement what Rune says, today, Subsea 7 has six heavy transport ships moving jackets on Seagreen, and we have them booked for 18 months solid. On some of our U.S. bids, we have even more heavy transport ships booked solid. Interestingly enough, when you look on the very largest projects where the money goes, a lot of it goes to getting access and reasonable rates for the heavy transport vessels as well. For us, there is a real industrial logic as well here in the longer term as these projects globalize. It's the heavy transport ships that allow a global supply chain to work, I think, in the renewables business. If we think of it in that context, that's the appeal of the combination that we see here.
Okay, thanks John.
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Mark Wilson from Jefferies. Please ask your question.
Hello. Good morning, gentlemen. Two questions from me, please. The first is to John. The financial framework you showed at your renewables day last year talked about Seaway 7 as it is now, getting to a $1 billion average revenue and over 10% EBITDA. Could you frame those figures with the combined business, please? The second question would be, I think more to OHT side. The option on the second installation vessel, Vind 2, would you be actively considering building a Jones Act compliant vessel? Do you think that is necessary in the medium term? Thank you.
Mark, good morning. If I took the first one, then Rune can take the second question. As we discussed in our investor day that we had, we talked about that we believe that the renewables business in the medium to long term can be a billion-dollar business in terms of revenue, and that you could get EBITDA of above 10%. We talked very openly to the market that it remains a lumpy industry as it starts to settle and it starts to globalize. We do believe that longer term, that this industry and this business will settle around those margins.
Just as in the oil and gas industry, you've got two or three very large players that can offer a full suite of capability to the largest utilities and the big energy and oil and gas companies that are working on that front, we believe we will get there. Will we get there straight away? No, it's a process that we will need to go through as the market stabilizes and grows. We do believe that those targets are feasible. It's really about, just as we've discussed at the time, the timing of which these larger projects come and how they are packaged together, and how much scope gets put into those different packages. The new toolkit that Subsea 7 ASA has is a far stronger toolkit than either Subsea 7 or OHT have individually. Very complementary toolkit.
As we globalize, we will also save on transits and such like, as I discussed in my prepared remarks. I think for us, it's around reinforcing the foundations that give us the ability to say those figures are feasible for us in the medium to long term. I'll hand you over to Rune to talk about the option part.
Yeah, hi there. We have three options in OHT today. They will not be relevant for Jones Act. When it comes to Jones Act, I think it's something we need to get back to the market on. What I can say is that the CapEx for Jones Act vessels will be significantly above the levels that we have seen for non-Jones Act vessels. I would at least look for longer term contracts and projects where you can actually defend the additional CapEx, if we are to build Jones Act vessels. Too soon to give a definite answer on whether or not that will be vessels for us to build.
Okay. No, thanks for those answers. Going back to John, defending the 10% EBITDA margin seems understandable, but maybe if I could just push again on the revenue side of things. Do you think the additional opportunity would be what upside on the billion-dollar longer term?
Mark, I think we've shared with the market that it's possible we'll make the $1 billion this year in terms of just the pure Subsea 7 business because of the size and shape of some of these large contracts coming through. It's the lumpiness that is one of the challenges this industry has today. Once it starts to normalize and starts to become stable across large geographies such as Asia, Europe, and the U.S., we could expect to be able to see that. Once we get to that place, as we see in our Subsea business, we're not transiting assets backwards and forwards around the globe. We're able to position assets in key geographies, and that's how our EBITDA goes up, by putting the ships to work every day rather than transiting them. For ourselves, we can see that growth coming.
It really reflects on the timing of the Bloomberg graph that's in the materials here. Will those projects in 2024, 2025 arrive in time, and will they fit together? One thing we've talked at length is the fact that this market does have a lot of government/subsidy regimes and a lot of regulatory environments around them. For us, it's about how do we give ourselves the ability to see where we go from there in terms of building out that business. At this stage, Mark, we won't be giving any more details at this point. We can see the ability for the pieces to fit together. It's just the timing of that curve. There's some lumpiness between now and 2025. When you look at that Bloomberg curve, there's another trajectory upwards very sharply from that point onwards as well.
In our discussions with the key utility clients, everybody's focusing on those areas and pushing ahead. I think it's fair to say in my prepared remarks, I think all of us have been quite pleasantly surprised by the scale of the U.S. business, which we didn't really have in focus a year, 1.5 years a go, in terms of its size and scale. It's a very fast-moving market, and that's what makes it exciting.
Thank you for the answers. Congratulations on the combination. I will hand you over.
Thank you.
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Turner Holm from Clarksons Platou. Please ask your question.
Yeah. Hey, good morning, gentlemen. Congratulations on the transaction. Just wanted to touch on the synergies briefly. First, just on the sort of revenue synergies. Do you see that there's potential to win contracts as a combined unit that you wouldn't otherwise win as two separate units? You can envision that this combined company will be on a similar level as the large Dutch and Belgian EPCI players? The second part of the question, just on any view on potential cost synergies. Thank you.
Yeah. Thank you. Good morning. We didn't do this transaction to drive out cost synergies. We've got two very lean organizations that are coming together in a growing market. For us, it's about broadening the portfolio of service offerings. It's about being able to geographically place assets in the foundation business, and be more efficient in that front. Then it's about making sure then that we can keep growing this business longer term as that market responds. For ourselves, that's the primary logic here. It's not a cost synergy exercise as far as we're concerned. We intend to keep all the key people, all the workforce we have around the globe and build those businesses out.
In terms of where we are positioning, there are two, one Dutch, one Belgian competitor, that would have a toolkit similar to this with cables, foundations, turbine jackups in the mix. That's where we position the new Seaway 7 ASA is to be in that top three, top two slot in that grouping. We believe that longer term, it'll be the larger client contractors that can take some of these larger contracts. The other thing that we have seen, we were one of the early movers on offering integrated foundations and cables, and that's proved to be quite interesting. We picked up two or three jobs in that mode, and a number of our competitors have picked up some jobs in that mode. You could also see that you could join foundations, cables, and turbine installation into one integrated T&I package as well for our utility clients.
There is still opportunity there, I think, to offer slightly different contracting formats in due course. Where we've always been, we've been very flexible on contracting formats. We will work in any contracting format that works for our clients and works for ourselves from a risk and reward profile.
Okay. Thank you. Just a quick follow-up to that one. I believe OHT has kind of highlighted towards the end of this year is a good timing for a potential award of a contract to Vind 1. I am just curious how you all are thinking about this with the deal closing, I guess, in October. You do not have to take delivery of the vessel until mid-2023. How does that, if at all, change your perspective on the potential first contract award for Vind 1? Thank you.
I think it doesn't change how we bid and how disciplined we have been and will continue to be. We believe we have attractive assets with an attractive delivery slot into a market that looks very interesting at that time. We will continue to work the bids that we have submitted and also continue to be disciplined when it comes to rates as we have been. I would say it doesn't change anything there given the combination.
Okay. Thank you very much and best of luck to the new company. Thanks.
Thank you.
Thank you. Dear participants, as a reminder, if you wish to ask a question, please press star and 1 on the telephone keypad. The next question comes from the line of Vlad Sergievskii from Bank of America. Please ask your question.
Good morning. Thank you very much for doing this call. I have three questions, please. How did you think about valuation of the two businesses that arise to the shareholders that you have? Was market valuation of OHT a consideration at all in this process? Secondly, with regards to Subsea 7 specifically, obviously you will be consolidating the entity which will have meaningful newbuild CapEx in the next few years, likely impacting the free cash flow of Subsea 7. Will it have any impact on how you're thinking about shareholder returns over the next few years? Lastly, specifically on OHT, would you be able to provide us at least a rough split of revenues last year or maybe expectations for this year between renewable and non-renewable business? Thank you very much.
Okay. Thank you, Vlad. Good morning. I'll take the first two, and I'll ask Rune to take the third. If we look at valuation, we did what we would normally do as two companies. We looked at where we think our businesses are going to go into the future. We looked at what we thought the relative values of the two businesses were. As always, with those type of discussions, there can be a plus or minus up and down on the numbers. We felt where we concluded that we had a reasonably balanced ratio between the two of us. It was around looking at this from a viewpoint of there's good comes out of this for Subsea 7 shareholders, and there's good comes out of this for OHT shareholders.
The valuation was a normal valuation process that we had that allowed us to recalibrate it against certain reference points. I think it's fair to say that we felt comfortable, both boards felt very comfortable that we had a reasonable, balanced ratio here. This wasn't one person trying to take advantage of another. It was two businesses with a strong industrial logic, saying to themselves, "Let's try to be pragmatic here about putting good valuations together or reasonable valuations." That's the way we approached it. From Subsea 7's viewpoint and a shareholder in Subsea 7, I'd like to come back to the very last slide and our strategic vision. We are very clear that Subsea 7 will be one of the preeminent energy service providers in that market that's going to change significantly in the next 10 years.
We will continue to invest in Subsea 7, in floating wind, in hydrogen, in carbon capture, and we still see a very large oil and gas business that we know the energy transition needs. That's one side of our business. We intend to invest to make sure that Seaway 7 ASA succeeds and grows. I think, Vlad, we'll come back to the usual triangle that we've always talked about. Priority number one, invest in the business if there's a good opportunity. Number two, make sure we keep a good investment grade balance sheet. Number three, return everything else to our shareholders. I don't think that will fundamentally change. I think as we've always said to our shareholders and people that follow us, we are a longer-term play here. We're not a very good quarter company.
We do things long-term because we believe we can create long-term shareholder value. That's the way I would like people to think about it, is that that's the way we will be looking at it, certainly as a board and management. I'll hand over to Rune.
Yeah. On the revenue side, last year, apologies, I don't have the exact percentages in my head. What I can say is that the majority of EBITDA came from renewables, as I said earlier to a question. By far the biggest segment was offshore wind. In 2021, we see some reduced activity related to renewables. From the end of this year, there is several jobs and a significant number of volume to be moved from Asia and Middle East to Europe. You should expect us to bid for that work. From 2022 and onwards, we see renewable taking a bigger share of our revenue from the heavy lift fleet.
Thanks very much, everyone, and goodbye for the transaction.
Thanks.
Thank you. Dear participants, if you wish to ask a question, press star and one on the telephone keypad. The next question comes from the line of Kévin Roger from Kepler Cheuvreux. Please ask your question.
Yes. Good morning. Thanks for the call, actually all the questions have been already answered. Thanks for that, have a very good day. Congrats for the deal today.
Thank you, Kévin.
Thank you. Thank you
The next question comes from the line of Mick Pickup from Barclays. Please ask your question.
Hi. It's Mick. I'm trying to get out of the queue, un fortunately. I already asked my question. Thanks.
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Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Amy Wong from UBS. Please ask your question.
Hi, guys. Good morning. Thanks for the presentation. A couple of questions still, though. On the $400 million of CapEx that's due on the two vessels, could you give us a payment schedule for that, please?
[crosstalk] sorry. I think, Amy, we will need to be able to do a bit more information that we will give to the market just prior to closing. Rune , if there's anything that's already public with OHT, feel free to share it.
I can just refer to previous communication around it, that's for the wind vessel. The payment structure is 4x 10 on certain construction marks, then the rest at delivery. For the Alfa Lift, the remaining is at delivery, which we said is first half of 2022.
Thank you. The second thing is, during your opening prepared remarks, you talked a bit about the kind of improving efficiency we're having a more global fleet. That sounds like to me that we should be expecting some kind of utilization uplift from not having to move your vessels around a bit. Could you talk about that a bit more, help us understand what kind of potential is there to improve the utilization of the new fleet when you have all 12 vessels in place?
Yeah. The main area, Amy, is in the foundations area. Really for us, it's the ability to deploy a very large heavy-duty jackup on foundation work, which may open up an EPC or may open up a very large transportation and installation. If that jackup happens to be in the right geography, that's of interest to us. It's also about the fact that we started this business in Europe, and we've grown over the last decade a European business. We can see over the next three to four years a strong Taiwanese business and other Asian countries, which will grow on that front. We will also have the U.S. running in parallel. For us, it's about the ability to deploy, as we do in Subsea 7, trying to deploy assets in certain regions to avoid the inefficiency of transiting.
Some of these large assets take 45 days or something to move around from one job to the next. You do that twice a year. That's 90 days of your year gone, moving around. For us, it's about creating the possibility for utilization. It also, the toolkit we think will be very interesting in terms of foundations for the new company, in that you've got a very large heavy-duty jackup with the ability to do foundations. You've got, in the Alfa Lift, a very efficient monopile installation machine. Then in the Seaway Strashnov, you've got a machine that does a lot of heavy jacket work very efficiently as well. Again, different tools for different types of projects. For us, there are benefits from the tools in our toolkit and where we choose to put our tools around the world.
That's the way we look at it at the moment. That story will only crystallize in 2024, 2025 onwards, when these very large projects that are forecast by Bloomberg, and we're talking to our clients around them, materialize. Then it's about a question of what scopes we pick up and where we pick those scopes up.
Understood. Thank you. That's very helpful. I'll turn it over.
Thank you. The next question comes to the line of Mark Wilson from Jefferies. Please ask your question.
Follow-up question here. Is this that with the floating business or partnership that you have not included in this, just explain what's going on with that at the moment, John. It sounds to me like that would still be in a subsea design phase that will use your engineers in the other part of the business.
Yes, Mark. Thanks for asking that question because I think it's worth clarifying. What we're seeing here is that the fixed-wind business, which is the one that Seaway 7 ASA will have as a target market, has really become a major, significant real market today with volume and very clear growth steps ahead. Floating wind, as we've discussed a number of times, we see that more as getting technology lined up, starting to do some pilot projects at the middle point of this decade. We're seeing this becoming commercial probably toward the end of this decade. That will stay inside Subsea 7, and our Salamander investment that we discussed at the last quarter will stay there. We will see good cooperation between Seaway 7 and Subsea 7. I'm sure when we do a floating wind project, all the cable lay work will be done by Seaway 7.
The idea is to put dedicated research and development resources onto it, while Seaway 7 tries to go out and harvest the real opportunities that are out there in fixed wind. That's how we've logically structured it.
Thank you. Okay.
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