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Earnings Call: Q4 2022

Nov 17, 2022

Operator

Thank you, and good afternoon to everyone participating in Delta Apparel's fiscal 2022 fourth quarter and full year earnings conference call. Joining us from management are Bob Humphreys, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Simone Walsh, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that during the course of this conference call, projections or other forward-looking statements may be made by Delta Apparel's executives. Such projections and statements suggest prediction and involve risk and uncertainty, and actual results may differ materially. Please refer to the periodic reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including the company's most recent annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. These documents identify important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in the projections or forward-looking statements.

Please note that any forward-looking statements are made only as of today, and except as required by law, the company does not commit to update or revise any forward-looking statements, even if it becomes apparent that any projected results will not be realized. I'll now turn the call over to Mr. Humphreys.

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

Good afternoon, thank you for your interest in Delta Apparel. We are extremely pleased with our performance in fiscal year 2022. As you saw in our press release this afternoon, we delivered full year sales of $484.9 million and an operating margin of 6.6%, resulting in $2.80 of earnings per diluted share. Our ability to navigate the dynamic economic conditions and consumer environment throughout the year and achieve both double-digit sales growth of 11% and solid bottom line results for our shareholders is a testament to the resiliency and reach of our diversified go-to-market strategies and, of course, our people. I'm incredibly proud of our entire organization's ability to quickly adapt to change throughout the year, yet remain focused on the execution of our business goals and strategic initiatives.

All five of our primary market channels, Delta Direct, Global Brands, Retail Direct, DTG2Go, and Salt Life, delivered year-over-year sales growth in fiscal year 2022. The growth was driven by higher units sold in most product categories, as well as price increases across product lines. Within our Delta Group segment, demand between its various market channels shifted as the U.S. economy continued to evolve in the post-pandemic environment, with strong early overall demand for our products moderating as the year progressed. We continue to see strong demand in our DTG2Go channel and our Delta Direct channels, regional screen print and ad specialty businesses. Moreover, the strategic investments we've made in our vertical manufacturing platform immediately adjacent to the U.S. market and our distribution network across the U.S. market continue to generate increased demand in our Global Brands and Retail Direct channels.

Brand and retailer interest in the nearshore and domestic sourcing and fulfillment strategies our platform offers is accelerating due not only to U.S. market proximity and speed, but also to better risk management associated with evolving U.S. trade relations, social, environmental, and sustainability priorities, inflationary pressures, and supply chain disruptions. These favorable dynamics, coupled with new investment in screen print production and other value-adding ancillary services, as well as higher selling prices from our passthrough of rising input costs, manifested itself in solid sales growth in our Delta Group segment. We were heavily impacted by strong inflationary pressures throughout our fiscal year, like the rest of our industry, but we were able to move quickly to capitalize on the flexibility of our vertically integrated platform and recalibrate our production to manage inventory levels and mitigate higher input costs.

Our team did a great job of responding to the fluid environment and navigating the challenges brought on by the volatility in raw material pricing. The price of cotton, one of our key inputs, increased almost 50% in a five-month period and reached a high of over $1.50 per pound in our third quarter. We started reducing our forward cotton purchase commitments as futures prices escalated beyond a level that we believe would be accepted at retail. When we saw declines in overall demand for basic tees in the fourth quarter, we began reducing manufacturing output to level off our finished goods inventory. These inflationary input costs, of course, increased the value of our inventory and put pressure on our gross margins as inventory is sold.

We saw this margin impact in the second half of fiscal 2022 and expect it to continue in the first half of fiscal 2023. We currently expect to operate some of our production facilities below full capacity until inventories become better aligned with market demand in fiscal year 2023. We've seen our retail partners encounter similar challenges in managing their inventory levels to the fluctuations in consumer demand. The overall economic uncertainty going into the holiday season caused by the inflationary environment has hampered replenishment orders for activewear from our mass retail partners. We continue to stay close to our partners, and we'll be prepared to support demand as we progress through the first half of fiscal 2023.

Our DTG2Go business continues to grow and solidify its leadership position in the make-on-demand digital printing and fulfillment through its digital-first strategy, achieving year-over-year increases in both units sold and sales revenue. We ended the fiscal year with eight digital print locations, six of which also operate as blank garment distribution centers, and the latest technology to support DTG2Go's digital first strategy is now in four locations. More and more customers see the clear benefits of our digital make-on-demand model versus traditional inventory-heavy make-to-forecast model, particularly when coupled with our unique ability to vertically supply blank Delta garments on demand. Our seamless blank supply reduces not only our customers' garment costs, but also risk associated with adding another third-party layer to their supply chain. For us, this model eliminates non-value-added costs, creates a more efficient operation, and lowers working capital needs.

While we experienced additional costs and some production delays in fiscal year 2022 as we brought new print equipment online and worked through challenges from the tight U.S. labor market, which depressed our margins, we see both sales and margin growth potential at DTG2Go going forward as selling prices continue to grow. We also expect to see increased output through productivity gains, additional staffing, and extending operating schedules to meet demand in this high-growth channel for our company. We saw great success with our lifestyle brand, Salt Life, in fiscal year 2022 with over 20% growth from the prior year. We are pleased with the continued demand for the Salt Life brand across all three legs of our omni-channel go-to-market strategy. Our Salt Life branded retail doors continue to serve as a valuable brand awareness tool and drivers of accretive revenue.

We ended the year with 21 branded retail doors spread along the U.S. coastline and reached a milestone of eight new doors opened during the year. Our new location in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, is exceeding expectations, and we are excited to open another six to eight Salt Life owned and operated stores in fiscal 2023, including an additional store in Long Branch, New Jersey, to give Salt Life even more visibility in the Northeast. Salt Life's e-commerce business was challenged by supply chain shortages in the first half of the year, but was able to work through them to drive organic growth in this important market segment during the fourth quarter. In addition, our wholesale customers continue to promote Salt Life and devote more floor space and valuable shop-in-shop opportunities to drive incremental sales and increase brand awareness.

Our other efforts to elevate the Salt Life brand's profile and appeal to drive increased consumer engagement are also paying off. The Salt Life YouTube channel reached 7.1 million views in fiscal 2022, a 37% increase compared to fiscal 2021, largely driven by the success of YouTube Shorts. These short segment videos are designed to appeal to a broader audience, and we target producing two to three shows per week. Beyond YouTube, Salt Life's social channel net audience grew nearly 85% in fiscal 2022, spanning Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, and Pinterest. We also continue to interact with our customers through Salt Life's online content portal, The Daily Salt, which includes published articles featuring reviews of the best gear in the industry, how-to articles, team member travel articles, and other content.

Additionally, we continue to produce our Salt Life podcast, Above and Below, hosted by professional surfer and Salt Life Team Member, Kieran Anderson. Overall, fiscal 2022 was another excellent year for both our Delta Group and Salt Life Group segments and a year of robust overall organic growth for our company. We have built a strong foundation across our business segments. Our full-year performance highlights the range of our five distinct go-to-market strategies, the widespread demand for the unique products and services we offer, the flexibility and efficiencies of our vertically integrated operations, and first-mover advantages in digital printing and fulfillment, and emotional connection that our lifestyle brand, Salt Life, has with a broad range of consumers. Let me now turn the call over to Simone Walsh, who will review our fourth-quarter and full-year business highlights and financial results.

I'll join back on when we open the call for questions. Simone?

Simone Walsh
CFO, Delta Apparel

Thank you, Bob. For both our Delta Group and Salt Life Group, fiscal 2022 was another strong year, and we are entering fiscal 2023 with positive momentum across many areas of our business. We delivered strong top-line growth of 11% year-over-year, including 9.8% growth in the Delta Group and over 20% growth in the Salt Life Group over the prior year. Within the Delta Group, our three key sales channels in Activewear - Delta Direct, Retail Direct, and Global Brands, all experienced year-over-year sales growth.

While Delta Direct was challenged in the second half of fiscal 2022 as a result of scaled-back orders, particularly from mass channel activewear at large retailers, we are pleased with our ability to maintain year-over-year sales growth in that channel and to achieve double-digit sales growth in both the Retail Direct and Global Brands sales channels on increased units and higher selling prices. As a reminder, in our Retail Direct and Global Brands sales channels, we serve as a supply chain partner to global brands, including the development of custom branded garments, the provision of ancillary value-adding retail-ready services and shipping logistics. These sales channels also serve retailers by providing our portfolio of Delta Platinum and Soffe products directly to retail locations and their e-commerce fulfillment centers.

Also within the Delta Group, our DTG2Go make-on-demand business experienced both unit and selling price growth year-over-year. Order flow for our digital first strategy exceeds our current capacity. We are excited to continue to expand our digital first initiative across our markets and plan additional investments in the latest digital print equipment to meet the growing customer demand in the sales channel. Bob shared a lot regarding Salt Life's engagement with consumers, which drives strong direct-to-consumer sales for Salt Life and also enhances its wholesale business as consumers seek out the brand while shopping at department stores, outdoor retailers, resort shops, specialty stores and other retail outlets. With the strength of the Salt Life brand and growth we're experiencing in our direct-to-consumer channels, we remain extremely excited about Salt Life's potential in fiscal 2023 and beyond.

Our business is significantly influenced by the price of cotton used in our manufacturing operations. During the fiscal year, the elevated price and volatility negatively impacted the gross margins in our business. We expect our margins to continue to be depressed in the first half of fiscal 2023 as we sell through the inventory we produced in the latter half of fiscal 2022, which was impacted by both the higher priced cotton and other elevated input costs. Although we took action to use less of the higher priced cotton by reducing our production, we do expense additional unabsorbed fixed costs from these measures. The fourth quarter reduction resulted in $1.1 million of unabsorbed expense, which impacted gross margins by approximately 90 basis points for the quarter.

In addition, we expect to take additional targeted production shutdowns and continue to operate some of our facilities below full capacity until inventories are better aligned with overall demand. These adjustments are expected to result in approximately $2,775,000 of additional unabsorbed expense in the first and second quarters of fiscal year 2023 respectively. Currently, with the price of cotton declining and stabilizing recently from the volatility and peak price in last year's third quarter, we anticipate we will return to margin expansion in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2023. Additionally, we note that our inventory on hand has increased from the prior year. This increase is a result of the price of inventory escalating due to the rising input and labor costs as a result of inflationary pressures, coupled with an increase in units on hand.

We are closely monitoring inventory levels and will continue to monitor our manufacturing output and make adjustments as necessary to align with market conditions. The vast majority of our inventory consists of basic Delta blank garments that we fully expect to sell through our various channels as demand arises. Now, I'll go through a more detailed review of our fourth quarter and full year financial results. For the fourth quarter, net sales were $115.5 million compared to $114.7 million in the prior year fourth quarter, with Delta Group sales decreasing 1% and Salt Life Group sales up nearly 16% over the prior year fourth quarter. During the fourth quarter, Delta Group net sales declined to $101.5 million compared to $102.6 million in the prior year fourth quarter.

Global Brands growth helped to offset the softness in our Retail Direct channels. The Salt Life Group fourth quarter revenue grew 16% to $14 million, compared to $12.1 million in the fourth quarter of 2021. The segment's growth was driven by organic growth across all three of its market channels, wholesale, retail and e-commerce. Gross margins were 18.7% overall for the quarter, compared to 23.1% in the prior year fourth quarter. The 440 basis point decline was driven by higher input costs in both our Activewear and DTG2Go businesses, as well as unbudgeted production curtailments, offset by an improvement in the Salt Life Group segment.

In the Delta Group, gross margins were 14.1% for the fourth quarter, a decline from the prior fourth quarter's margins of 20.2%. Gross margins were mostly negatively impacted by higher cost inventory flowing through cost of sales, including elevated cotton, energy, dyes and chemicals, freight and labor costs. As Bob mentioned, we started reducing production of basic tees in the September quarter, which resulted in $1.1 million of unabsorbed fixed costs expensed in our fourth quarter. Our plan to reduce production further in the first half of fiscal 2023 until inventories get in better alignment, will result in additional unabsorbed fixed costs impacting our gross margins.

The Salt Life Group segment's gross margins improved to 51.8% in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2022, compared to 48% in the prior year fourth quarter, resulting from a favorable mix of sales, including increased Salt Life branded retail store sales. Selling, general, and administrative expenses, SG&A, were $19.8 million in the quarter, increasing 170 basis points to 17.2% of sales. This increase was primarily driven by a higher percentage of our sales coming through the Salt Life retail stores and increased distribution labor costs across all of our business operations. As a result, operating profits were $2.2 million, or 1.9% of sales, declining from $10.1 million or 8.8% of sales in the prior year quarter.

Other income for the fourth quarter of 2022 was $0.5 million. This is substantially made up of valuation changes in our contingent consideration liabilities of $0.6 million associated with the acquisition of DTG2Go. In the prior fiscal fourth quarter, other income was $1.3 million, driven primarily by a valuation change in the DTG2Go contingent consideration liability of $1.2 million. Interest expense was $2.4 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2022, up from the prior year fourth fiscal quarter expense of $1.6 million, due primarily to higher debt levels.

Overall, we incurred a net loss for the September 2022 quarter of $0.3 million or -$0.04 per diluted share, as compared to net income of $6.8 million or $0.96 per diluted share in the prior year. Now, turning to our full fiscal year results. For the full 2022 fiscal year, net sales increased 11% to $484.9 million, with almost 10% growth in the Delta Group and approximately 21% growth in the Salt Life Group over the prior year. For the Delta Group, net sales for fiscal 2022 were $424.8 million, up from $387 million in the prior year.

For Salt Life, net sales were $60.1 million, up $10.3 million from the prior year, net sales of $49.7 million in the comparable period. Gross profit increased 6.8% to $108.8 million, with gross margins contracting 90 basis points to 22.4% of sales, driven by a decrease in the Delta Group segment of 190 basis points that was partially offset by an improvement of 370 basis points in the Salt Life Group. Within the Delta Group, gross margins were 18.3% compared to 20.2% in the prior year, with the decline driven by increasing input and labor costs as well as production curtailment.

In the Salt Life segment, gross margins grew 51.6% of sales from 47.9% in the prior year, driven by sales channel mix and higher selling prices. SG&A expenses were $79.5 million in the fiscal year 2022, or 16.4% of sales, a decline of 20 basis points from the prior year. Overall, the increased input costs, coupled with slightly increased SG&A expenses, resulted in $31.8 million in operating profit or a 6.6% operating margin. In the prior year, operating profit was $32.7 million or a 7.5% operating margin.

Other income of $2.4 million in 2022 included $0.9 million in profits related to our Honduran equity method investment, as well as $1.9 million in income from the net reduction in contingent consideration liabilities, offset by a loss on the disposal of fixed assets of $0.4 million. In the prior year, other income of $1.6 million included $0.5 million of profits related to our Honduran equity method investment, as well as $2.4 million of income from the net reduction in contingent consideration liabilities, partially offset by $1.3 million of expenses related to the two hurricanes that disrupted our Honduran manufacturing facilities in the prior year December quarter.

Interest expense was $7.7 million in fiscal 2022, up from the prior year interest expense of $6.8 million, due primarily to higher debt levels. Our effective tax rate for fiscal 2022 was 17.9%, down from the prior year effective tax rate of 21.9%. As a result, our net income for fiscal 2022 was $19.7 million. On just under 7.1 million shares, these earnings translated to $2.80 per diluted share, compared to the prior year net income of $20.3 million or $2.86 per diluted share. Net debt, including capital lease financing and cash on hand, was $170.6 million at year-end. Cash on hand and availability under our U.S. revolving credit facility totaled $34.6 million.

Total inventory at year-end was $248.5 million, compared to $161.7 million a year ago, when the market was generally in a low inventory position. The year-over-year inventory expansion reflects both higher input costs impacting materials, transportation, and labor, and an increase in units on hand. We continue to work across the Delta Group to balance our manufacturing output with demand and appropriately manage on-hand inventory. During the fiscal year, we invested approximately $20 million in capital expenditures. This capital spending was mainly focused on digital print equipment to support our DTG2Go business, retail store openings, and information technology initiatives. We have completed our planned manufacturing expansion projects for our Delta Group also. In fiscal 2023, we plan to further invest in Salt Life retail location opening and continue to focus on improving manufacturing efficiency.

We will also continue to invest in additional digital print capacity. In fiscal 2022, the company purchased 136,181 shares for $4 million under the previously announced share repurchase program, bringing the total amount repurchased to $56.4 million over the life of the program. At the end of fiscal 2022, the company had $3.6 million of remaining repurchase capacity under its existing board authorization. Looking forward to 2023, we expect to see continued growth in our Retail Direct and Global Brands channels, which should be moderated by slower sales in our Delta Direct channel in the first half of the year, due primarily to a rebalancing of replenishment orders for activewear from large mass retailers.

As inventories continue to work their way through the channel, we expect the activewear business to achieve sales in the first half of 2023 comparable to the prior year and anticipate growth in the back half of the year as mass market demand strengthens. As we head into the all-important holiday season, we expect to see another year of strong year-over-year sales growth for DTG2Go. At Salt Life, we expect the growth in our direct-to-consumer channels to continue and anticipate another year of overall double-digit sales growth in fiscal 2023. As referenced earlier, with the price of cotton declining and stabilizing recently from the volatility and peak price in Q3 of fiscal 2022, we currently anticipate a return to margin expansion in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2023.

SG&A cost drivers are expected to remain consistent in the first half of fiscal year 2023, commensurate with our sales expectations, and we expect to have greater SG&A leverage in the second half of the year. We look forward to updating you as the year progresses. I will now turn the call back over to Bob for some final remarks.

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

Thanks, Simone. We are moving into fiscal year 2023 with positive momentum across many aspects of our business, but also with uncertainty across the apparel industry and the economy at large. We will continue to leverage the flexibility our vertical manufacturing platform gives us to adjust production levels to meet demand and expect to manage our working capital and capital expenditures similarly as the year progresses. We have successfully operated through periods of economic ambiguity in the past and believe that our diversified distribution channels and wide range of customer touch points should position us well to take advantage of market opportunities as they may arise. We'll be ready to move quickly, decisively, and in the best interest of all of our stakeholders. Now we'll be glad to open up the call for any questions.

Operator

At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question comes from the line of Dana Telsey with Telsey Advisory. Please proceed with your question.

Dana Telsey
CEO and Chief Research Officer, Telsey Advisory

Good afternoon, Bob and Simone. As you think about the margin trajectory going toward the fourth quarter, what the tailwinds and headwinds could be potentially expected, whether it comes from raw material costs, whether it comes from freight costs, can you bucket our gross margin and SG&A tailwinds and headwinds? Frankly, going into 2023, the following year, do we get back to the previous level margins, or what do you think the trajectory could be? Thank you.

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

Dana, we were getting about every other word there. Would you mind repeating that slowly?

Dana Telsey
CEO and Chief Research Officer, Telsey Advisory

Sure. Just wondering on the margin trajectory, as we go through the year, what would be the tailwinds and headwinds? As you look forward past next fiscal year, would you be able to attain what your previous year's operating margins were? What are the hindrances and the opportunities to meet or exceed that? Thank you.

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

I think as we go through fiscal 2023, you know, the headwinds are going to be higher-priced raw materials and other input costs that will be flowing through our cost of sales, and particularly cotton, and higher labor costs, particularly our distribution centers, DTG2Go's domestic operations. I think the tailwinds are strong consumer demand for many parts of our business and, you know, demand for our service levels that we can provide on blank T-shirts and also on decorated T-shirts. You know, our DTG2Go business is continuing to grow strongly both in unit growth and average selling price out the door. I would expect this first quarter of fiscal 2023 to be an all-time record of revenue for a quarter in our DTG2Go business.

Of course, we saw a strong growth at our Salt Life business last year and expect that to continue into this year. I think both of those two things will be tailwinds for, you know, our company and our revenue and profitability in the years to come. We do think, you know, another headwind this year is we are taking production time down in our manufacturing facilities, and we expense that as we go. We did that in the fourth quarter as we just mentioned, and we'll do more in the second quarter and in all likelihood in our third quarter and then get back to running, you know, our manufacturing facilities more full and absorbing more fixed cost and leveraging that fixed cost. Anyway, I think those are the main drivers.

Simone, you got anything else you wanna add there?

Simone Walsh
CFO, Delta Apparel

I'll just add then. I think in terms of the supply chain overall, we are seeing those fuel surcharges have gone away, so that is helpful. I think if you look though at freight northbound and southbound from the U.S. into Central America, there are still elevated freight costs that we have in the supply chain. Encouragingly, out of Asia, those freight costs have come down, so that is also helpful. You referenced SG&A as well. I think that you will see over the course of the year, the biggest driver of dollar cost in our SG&A expense is opening retail stores. We opened eight stores during the year, and those store costs and operating costs, lease expenses, are all in SG&A. You'll see that also.

Dana Telsey
CEO and Chief Research Officer, Telsey Advisory

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Peter Johnson, a Private Investor. Please proceed with your question.

Peter Johnson
Shareholder, Private Investor

Yes, good afternoon. Can you give us a little bit of an update on the Fanatics opportunity?

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

Sure. You know, we're in our, I think, our fifth quarter now, the beginnings of that with, you know, Fanatics on board on our digital first strategy. I think we've made good sequential progress each quarter in producing more product and getting it out the door. We have more equipment running on that now than, you know, we ever have in our history. Our output as we speak is the best that it's been in our history. You know, we see that continuing to grow. You know, Black Friday will come in about a week, and by then, we will have additional shifts running to, you know, maximize what we can do in that business.

I think our fourth quarter output was up over 30% from the prior year. You know, we expect strong unit and selling price growth in that business. This quarter, our average unit price out the door, so that's what we're getting paid to deliver the garment and the print work, is the highest it's ever been. We're seeing some appreciation in that, driven by number of prints on garments and garment pricing as well.

Peter Johnson
Shareholder, Private Investor

We are the exclusive provider to Fanatics by contract for these digitally produced garments, correct?

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

Well, I wouldn't say that broadly. They certainly have other vendors that were, you know, a part of things that we can't or don't want to make. You know, I think long term, their demand and geographic footprint may be beyond what we can or want to do. Right now, on this type of equipment, we're the only provider.

Peter Johnson
Shareholder, Private Investor

Okay. Do we need to add a substantial amount of capacity still to meet their demand, or are we mostly there at this point?

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

No, we have additional equipment on order that, you know, we'll be installing, you know, early next calendar year. You know, you get to be, you know, in this time of year, you know, going back 60 days, it's hard to install new equipment and get it started up and get it staffed to make a meaningful effort during the holiday period. We've tried that a number of times over the years and have learned to cut off earlier when we will take on installing additional equipment.

Peter Johnson
Shareholder, Private Investor

Simone, go ahead.

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

Let me just say, I mean, this equipment, we got the first prototype, and we got the prototype from the manufacturer out of their, you know, facility, brought it into our facility just about five quarters ago. We've gone from one prototype five quarters ago to 13 machines running in four different locations, running through holiday. We'll run two shifts in three of those locations, one shift in the other, and we're running them seven days a week. You know, Fanatics can sell a lot of product, and we're cheering them on, but we're also working very hard to make product in a fast startup environment that's, you know, very dynamic.

Peter Johnson
Shareholder, Private Investor

Yeah, it's very exciting. Simone, I might have missed this when you were talking about the financials, but what is roughly the gross margin for that kind of business?

Simone Walsh
CFO, Delta Apparel

For that business?

Peter Johnson
Shareholder, Private Investor

Yeah.

Simone Walsh
CFO, Delta Apparel

Historically, we have had high levels of gross margin. Over the last 12 months, as we have installed that print equipment, as we have said, that has depressed our margins. We expect going forward to take margins back to those historic levels.

Peter Johnson
Shareholder, Private Investor

You're talking about overall. I was just trying to understand for the Fanatics business.

Simone Walsh
CFO, Delta Apparel

I haven't spoken specifically about the Fanatics business. I'm sorry. I was referencing DTG2Go as a whole as part of our Delta Group.

Peter Johnson
Shareholder, Private Investor

Okay. What were the overall DTG margins?

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

You know, we don't disclose the different margins, you know, within a segment. I would just say again, our average selling prices are the highest they've been. DTG2Go is not necessarily a high margin business, but there's just very little selling and other costs associated with it. You know, it has margins, you know, similar when it's running well to our basic activewear business, maybe slightly lower, but then it has a much lower SG&A component.

Peter Johnson
Shareholder, Private Investor

Understood. Thank you. Just one more question. With companies presumably seeing the attractiveness of onshoring and faster turn times and less stepping out and buying a lot of inventory, are you seeing a shift from some of the major customers that could absorb some of that capacity that isn't being filled right now?

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

Well, yeah. One thing that's, you know, interesting to think about and understand about this business is it's still a fairly seasonal business. You got a big component of it that's driven from seasonal merchandise around the holiday period. You know, our strategy for years has been to work on building this out into a more leveled business, and we've tended to make pretty good progress as the years have gone, and that is one of the beauties of the Fanatics business is while, you know, it definitely peaks in holidays, but, you know, the sports events that they support and the leagues run year-round. It is much more of a year-round business.

I think you'll see us be more strategic in what types of businesses that we do want to take on, where we can continue to work on building our year-round business versus just installing more equipment for a peak period of time.

Peter Johnson
Shareholder, Private Investor

Great. Thank you very much for that.

Simone Walsh
CFO, Delta Apparel

Thank you.

Operator

As a reminder, if you have any questions, you may press star one on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from the line of Jamie Wilen with Wilen Management. Please proceed with your question.

Jamie Wilen
President and Chief Compliance Officer, Wilen Management

Hi, fellas. Seasonality-wise, I assume the Christmas quarter, the current quarter, you'll be starting to run flat out at full capacity, certainly between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

Yeah. We've already really been running flat out for several weeks now. I think in the last, you know, four or five weeks, we've made some progress on productivity gains, on training and adding more people so that we can get more run hours, you know, out of the same equipment.

Jamie Wilen
President and Chief Compliance Officer, Wilen Management

Seasonality-wise, the Fanatics business will obviously lessen the seasonality, but what percentage of capacity do you think you'll be able to achieve throughout the remainder of the year, not just the Christmas quarter?

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

I don't have a good answer for you know, in front of me, to be honest with you. You know, how you define capacity is, you know, fluid. It depends on, you know, how many shifts you're gonna run and how many days a week you're gonna run. I think we'll have plenty of capacity, you know, once we get past probably end of January, February. I think we'll still be running very full on our digital first strategy through that period of time. You know, we'll start slowing up a little bit on output until we start gearing back up for the fall.

Jamie Wilen
President and Chief Compliance Officer, Wilen Management

The CapEx that you're gonna spend in the business in this fiscal year, I assume that's just on machinery and not additional bricks and mortar?

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

Exactly.

Jamie Wilen
President and Chief Compliance Officer, Wilen Management

Okay. Moving over to Salt Life. We've opened up a whole bunch of stores in the past year. Were they all profitable? Could you comment on the same-store sales of the existing stores that already achieved a very decent level of volume and profitability? Are you actually able to increase the sales of those stores as well?

Simone Walsh
CFO, Delta Apparel

Thank you, Jamie. Certainly. The same-store sales have increased. If you think about some of our flagship stores, such as Destin and Estero, we've spoken before about them being over $1 million in sales. That has certainly increased as well, which is very pleasing to see. Florida as a whole, as you know, has been hit with some weather challenges. We have opened eight stores in the year where they are still in growth mode. Of the stores that have been open, we have seen that growth continue.

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

Jamie, I would say, you know, if you want to look for a disappointment in my mind is our store in Texas has not yet, you know, met our goals. There's some road and work construction around that store that, you know, perhaps is part of it. I would say, in general, you know, we see stores start out strong and remain strong, or they start out weak and, you know, they stay kinda weak. Now we've seen places like Daytona that, you know, have had steady long-term, you know, five, six-year growth as the area around them has been built out. If people get there and shop, we do very well.

Jamie Wilen
President and Chief Compliance Officer, Wilen Management

Mm-hmm.

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

You know, being just a destination to attract people is not, you know, our cup of tea or retailers like that. The most encouraging one to me has been Rehoboth, Delaware, that still it sees every week, you know, our goal for the store. That's been nice to see, and you know, we're looking forward to seeing what happens further north in New Jersey.

Jamie Wilen
President and Chief Compliance Officer, Wilen Management

Are you tweaking the model at all now that you have a bunch of different geographic locations and some with an outlet, some freestanding? You know, as you move forward, how does the model change from how you've historically grown the store business?

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

Yeah. I think we like the model of about 2,000 sq ft. You know, we want to remain a mix between outlet and what we, you know, consider more branding stores. You know, from a profitability standpoint, right now, the outlets are more profitable for us. We tend to get more revenue through those stores, but we'll remain, you know, having a mix there.

Jamie Wilen
President and Chief Compliance Officer, Wilen Management

The online business, you know, we were struggling with the ability to have inventory and the right merchandise there. Are we there now? What type of growth are you seeing in that business, or do you expect to see now that you'll have full merchandise on the website?

Simone Walsh
CFO, Delta Apparel

Thank you, Jamie. Certainly, yes. If you recall, we, at the start of the year, were under-inventoried in our ability to fulfill on the e-commerce website as our wholesale sales came through much stronger than expected and were directing inventory to that wholesale business. We have now within the distribution centers identified separate area in terms of e-commerce and have that available, and we have rectified that. Very pleasingly, in Q4, we saw year-over-year growth in the e-commerce channel as well, as well as in retail and wholesale. We're very encouraged by the future of our e-commerce platform. We have refreshed the website and continue to see healthy traffic.

Jamie Wilen
President and Chief Compliance Officer, Wilen Management

Fast-forward to the end of this fiscal year, where would you like your inventory level to be?

Simone Walsh
CFO, Delta Apparel

Certainly, we have an anticipation of our inventory levels falling through the year. If you think about our inventory and the composition of our inventory, those Delta Direct unadorned T-shirts are a significant proportion of our inventory. About 75% of that inventory is evergreen. We do expect to sell through that inventory over time and have those elevated inventory levels come down as well as the Delta Direct evergreen inventory. We also have more Salt Life inventory just by having more stores now. That Salt Life inventory, as we keep increasing the store footprint, we will see a small piece of our inventory increase in line there. That Delta Direct blank evergreen inventory, we do expect to fall over the course of the year.

Jamie Wilen
President and Chief Compliance Officer, Wilen Management

Could you comment about what your competitors have in the evergreen inventory and how they are addressing their problems that everyone has with too much inventory and at a higher cost of cotton?

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

I think it varies by competitor. There's, you know, a significant amount of production that is, you know, currently sitting idle in Central America, you know, as we've seen happen in the past. They will be reducing inventory, I'm sure, both, you know, in units and the value in that inventory. You know, we went into the beginning of this fiscal year under-inventoried as an industry. You'll recall, you know, our first couple of quarters of the fiscal year, we were scrambling to fulfill orders. You know, in general, the industry was. It doesn't take too long to start shutting down this production that these inventories, you know, get into shape pretty darn quickly.

Hopefully, we'll do that and have a smooth takeoff and landing where we have the right inventories at the right time and don't have, you know, too few or too many to service our customers. You know, we'll remain mindful of that.

Jamie Wilen
President and Chief Compliance Officer, Wilen Management

Is finishing the year with $50 million less inventory a reasonable objective?

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

Yes.

Simone Walsh
CFO, Delta Apparel

Yes.

Jamie Wilen
President and Chief Compliance Officer, Wilen Management

Okay. Very good.

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

You know, I think the combination of, you know, obviously lower investment in raw material costs along with less units investment. I wanted to just circle back around with you, Jamie, on the e-commerce piece of Salt Life. You know, as we said a little bit in our prepared remarks, Salt Life has had an outsized e-commerce following, maybe not e-commerce, but social media following, you know, for many years now, and it gets, you know, pointed out in different, you know, types of reports and what have you. That really accelerated even further, you know, over the last 12 months.

I think our marketing people and the brand and brand awareness and some of the television shows that we're supporting have really done a great job of even further, you know, building the Salt Life brand value. It's certainly got a broader geographic footprint. I think one of the great untapped, you know, opportunities in Delta Apparel is our Salt Life e-commerce business. It should be many times the size it is over the course of the next several years, you know, based on the brand awareness and the social media interaction that we have.

Jamie Wilen
President and Chief Compliance Officer, Wilen Management

Okay. Lastly.

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

Our highest margin.

Jamie Wilen
President and Chief Compliance Officer, Wilen Management

Go on.

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

Piece of that business as well.

Jamie Wilen
President and Chief Compliance Officer, Wilen Management

Right. Your stores are gonna grow, your e-commerce is gonna grow. What about the wholesale business in Salt Life? Has that been able to maintain a higher trajectory?

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

Yeah, we had, you know, by far our best year ever last year, and that was really one of the things that Simone was pointing out that hurt our e-commerce business. Those orders come in, they get self-populated, so it sucks up our inventory to ship those orders, and then we didn't have the inventory to, you know, support e-commerce. That has been good. We, you know, remain getting good feedback and, you know, doors being added, you know, at a regular pace and, you know, we would expect to have another good year in our regular wholesale business.

Jamie Wilen
President and Chief Compliance Officer, Wilen Management

Okay. Thanks, fellas. Appreciate it.

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

Uh-huh.

Jamie Wilen
President and Chief Compliance Officer, Wilen Management

Thanks so much.

Operator

We have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I'll now turn the call back over to the management for closing remarks.

Bob Humphreys
Chairman and CEO, Delta Apparel

All right. Thank you for your interest in Delta Apparel as always. We'll look forward to updating you on our first quarter results here in just a couple of months. Hope everyone has a great holiday season.

Operator

This concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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