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Earnings Call: Q2 2021

Jul 16, 2021

Nathalie Redmo
Head of Investor Relations and Communications, Cloetta

Good morning, and thank you for joining us on the Q2 conference call for Cloetta. My name is Nathalie Redmo, and I'm head of investor relations. I'm here today with Henri de Sauvage, CEO of Cloetta, and Frans Rydén, CFO. Henri and Frans will take you through our second quarter results, and we will then move on to a Q&A session. I will now hand over to Henri.

Henri de Sauvage Nolting
President and CEO, Cloetta

Thank you, Nathalie. Pleased to have you here and be able to talk a bit through the Q2 results. The key messages are that we've seen a strong rebound in both of our segments and also a healthy profitability coming back in the business now that society starts to open up and, of course, as well as a result of the many actions we have been working on over the last 12 months. Sales of the branded packaged products are back at pre-pandemic levels, and this is really good to see because for candy in particular, we had a very strong hoarding effect last year. I remember that people were buying a lot of grocery products in the first and second month after the lockdowns and the pandemic started. That's good that we are able to compensate for that.

While Pick & Mix is showing enormous rebounds, we kept the candy sales and the pack business in growth. Also pastilles and gum, that were double-digit down during COVID, are recovering, however, not yet to the 2019 levels. Pick & Mix sales up with 80%. Of course, it's driven by the opening of channels and the comparator of last year. It's also very good to see the very positive sales impact of all the things we've done, like the premium CandyKing concept, which is selling at a higher price. We're also making good progress towards sustainable profitability with all the actions we have been taking, and I'll come back to that a bit more. Significant building stone in our road to 14% EBIT is to get growth up in the profitable branded business.

We do that, among others, by strengthening our most important top 25 brands. In this quarter, we made a further step up in our marketing spend, not only versus this low comparator of 2020, when we cut a lot of advertising given the uncertainty of COVID, but also versus the absolute level of 2019. We'll show you a bit more about that as well. In our continued Perfect Factory journey, we took another milestone by going live with a new integrated maintenance system in our first factory, which will be rolled out to all the plants. The main benefits are a systematic approach to preventative maintenance, which will increase our efficiencies of the lines and creating extra capacity, as well as getting a better insight into maintenance spend and cost.

Cloetta has underwritten the Science Based Targets initiative to underpin the climate agreement of Paris, we're now nearly ready to announce our commitment in reducing the end-to-end impact. Both from the farming and sourcing of raw materials, our own impact in factories and transport logistics, but also consumers and customers. That will be done in quarter three. Last but not least, a very important point is that over the last month, we've seen a strong increase in input costs from raw material, packaging, energy, and transport. We're not hit by that yet, but we are preparing actions, you could say, with price increases to mitigate that for the year to come. If we look on the next slide, Nathalie. We can see the two segments. In total, 18% growth, well distributed over the months.

You can see the 7.3% of the branded sales going up and really gaining traction April, May, June. Of course, April was also partly impacted by the Easter effect being a little bit more in March as we discussed last time. Pick & Mix is quite astonishing number, of course, but it has to be seen in the light as well of the comparator of last year. Nonetheless, there's a lot of stuff we've been doing in premiumization, betterization, activation to get to these figures. Quite pleased to see this. It was very important to get volume back in the business. Next slide. Yeah, a lot is driven by mobility, people moving around again, and we can see that in many countries. These are the main ones, and we just want to take you through a little bit how the picture is looking.

Grocery, of course, is doing really well. Also high street shopping, which is important for the U.K. market for Pick & Mix, given the presence we have over there, is also picking up. You can also see that things like retail and recreation are still down versus the baseline of 2019, although it's getting better. You can see also the different approaches taken by the different governments in a way that Sweden and Finland are more open than U.K. or the Netherlands. While we read a lot about the roadmap of the U.K. to opening up, and this is also one of the reasons that theme parks and cinemas in the U.K. are open, but not all the traffic is back to the levels where it should be.

Together with these customers, we've decided not that we start too early with Pick & Mix so that we have a healthy rotation in the assortment. The other conclusion, of course, is that people moving to work through transit stations, train, et cetera, which is very important for us as well, given the kiosks we have, that is still very much at the level of last year and also in workplaces. Offices, we can see that it has not really improved dramatically. That's still a channel which is very much down. What we expect is that if the Delta variant remains under control, that offices will start to open up in September after summer. The overall picture is that channels are opening up, but it is not completely back to the 2019 level.

If we go to the next one, we zoom in a little bit more on the branded business. If we first look at the total categories and not specifically Cloetta, we can see that the pastille and gum categories start to recover. We had a big drop versus 2019 in the figures of last year, and many reasons. We can see in particular with the mobility coming back, that these sales start to recover. We will also need people still to go back to the office because very much in line with the personal care categories, we see that people are taking less care of their personal outlook, and pastilles and chewing gum are part of that. We can also see now for the first time since last year, that candy bags are suddenly down with 5%.

That, of course, is against the very strong comparator we had last year with this category, where many people started to buy candy bags and a lot of other products, staple goods, which they could keep with the uncertainty of the pandemic. Of course, there was also a shift from Pick & Mix into candy bags. That's an important effect, and we can see traffic increasing in what we call other channels. Everything outside of the grocery and e-commerce, like travel retail coming back, maybe not air traffic so much, but the ferries, which are very important for us in the Nordic, are an important channel is coming back. Also kiosks and petrol stations start to show increasing sales also in countries like the Netherlands and Germany, and that's quite important for us.

What we have been doing in the last quarter, we keep on working on the top 25 brands. That's also why we're spending more money to make them competitive and to also spend in a competitive way. Frans will show you a bit more about that. We're doing some very important launches. We've talked about how to improve our gross margin by launching products with a higher gross margin than the average category. A few good examples, I'll take the fruit-based candy later on in the strategic review, but also the Kex vegan is getting enormous traction and in the Netherlands, a licorice product. It's a licorice coated with chocolate in a premium position, also receiving a lot of positive feedback in social media and with good sales. E-commerce, I'll come back to that as well, also important, of course, to keep on driving that.

There is a specific penetration program for both pastilles and gum. How are we going to recruit those people back into the brands which have forgotten or have not seen the need in the last 12 months to buy either pastilles or gum? How do we attract younger people? We're launching like Läkerol Crispy Duck across all the markets with Läkerol very much aimed at younger people, because we can see that the light users have been dropping out. Heavy users actually have been buying more than normal. That's quite important, and also with programs strongly supported with A&P. Very important, our number one brand, the way we classify that, so that Red Band in Germany, on a fantastic growth journey through both distribution gains and penetration. That's of course, also a very attractive market size-wise and volume-wise.

We're working as well on getting profitability in that market to the level where it contributes to the business. We then look at Pick & Mix, we can see that in the channels, the main differences are that the U.K., of course, is starting to open up. All the grocery stores are open, all the high street stores are open, the Poundlands are open. It's now only the cinemas and leisure, which will open in Q3. In summertime, when people are moving back into that channel and the last restrictions are lifted, that will turn into green as well. The consumer activation, we see small steps, but in general, you can say that only in U.K., we are back with our number one retailer, with the promotional mechanisms which we had before, but not in all the other ones.

As well that we are starting to get some activations locally. In other markets like Denmark, and also in Finland, big national promotional price offs from the customer are still on a very low or absent level. That is quite important as we saw in the U.K., because that is a very important driver to get people back. We saw some fantastic volume uplifts in that sense in the U.K. Then, of course, consumer demand. The consumer interest and the consumer trust in the category is improving. We try to symbolize that with the yellow arrow going from down to more immediate, but we're still not completely back to, of course, the 2019 levels. What we do, of course, to mitigate this is the premium CandyKing 2.0 concept, which is now live in all the markets.

It's much more premium adult feeling to the Pick & Mix, higher prices, better assortment, more hygiene, and that is being appreciated. Where we do this well, we can see that sales are going up. As said before, that will take a little bit more time. We're also, interesting to note, launched in a number of test stores, 17, a very premium concept in Finland with a substantial higher price and initial sales are very positive. We can see both more top line, but we can even see volume growth. It's another good example that if you put a quality, premium Pick & Mix concept into a country like Finland, and I'm convinced it will be the same for the other countries, then consumers are willing to pay for that.

It just underlines our journey to profitability for Pick & Mix that if we do this well, then we can step out of this price game and just deliver quality with good activation and good marketing and support, and be paid for that. Then last but not least, we've set up an e-commerce pilot in Denmark. You can see it on the internet, slikekspressen.dk. Where they're testing a digital platform and a fulfillment where we are able to offer online shoppers a service where they can pick their own bag of Pick & Mix, then we get that picked and delivered to them. It's a crowded space. There's over 20 competitors in Denmark already offering this. For us, of course, really important and interesting as well to see how we can digitalize this completely.

If it goes well, we can roll it out to other markets as well. Yeah. We go to the next section, which is Frans with the financial. Frans?

Frans Rydén
CFO, Cloetta

Thank you, Henri. As usual, I will start with the net sales. As we share now the quarterly results with the first full quarter where the pandemic is fully in the comparator, we are pleased to report a strong rebound. Overall organic growth of 18.2%, partially offset by unfavorable forex. This growth was driven by both packed at 7.3% and Pick & Mix growth of, as Henri mentioned, close to 80%. Henri has already shared some of the drivers of this growth, it is good to see that the rebound enabled by this increased mobility for societies, which we have spoken about since last year actually, is clearly there.

On a year to date basis, now of course, then having pre-pandemic results in the comparator, organic growth is up by 5.9%, with branded package sales up 4.9%, and Pick & Mix almost double digit at 9.7%. I think I'll not linger longer on this, but let's look at this by segments over time. Here, looking then by quarter, total growth and the 7.3% growth in our branded package business, this is by far the strongest growth we've had for quite some time. It is a rebound from the weak sales last year for sure. To understand this figure better, I think a little bit of triangulation could be helpful.

First, I have previously shared that the branded package sales were somewhat helped by cannibalization from Pick & Mix, meaning then that Pick & Mix sales declined, and it was at least in part as consumers bought more bagged candy. Here now in quarter two, branded package sales are in absolute NSV on par with Q1 sales, despite the massive 80% growth in Pick & Mix. That's great to see, and obviously, as Henri said, a result of all the action we've taken on the branded side. These Q2 branded package sales are, now I exclude translation ForEx, so on an organic level, they are above the Q2 sales we had in 2019, meaning that in both quarters this year so far, we have matched or beaten our 2019 branded package sales, which was arguably our best year ever.

Thirdly, with the branded package portfolio, our refreshment sales remain down versus pre-COVID, but that's mitigated by the higher candy sales. It does have an impact on profitability. When we look at the operating profit, I will come back on this and the need and interest for us to drive that part of the portfolio. Moving on to the lower half of the slide and the Pick & Mix business. At 80% growth, clearly it's a rebound, but of course it places us below the pre-COVID sales by a bit over 25% on an organic basis. Although some of that is due to us having walked away from unprofitable contracts over the last year, which is in line with our strategy to deliver sustainable and profitable growth with Pick & Mix. That's a good segue to look at the profitability.

As you can see here in this graph, our operating profit adjusted increased versus last year. Last year, we also shared that in that result, SEK 35 million of production cost had shifted out of Q2 and into Q3. On a like-for-like basis, we are really improving profit from, let's say, around SEK 75 million to SEK 140 million. If I'm generous to myself, it's not too far from doubling it, and it takes us just shy of also a double-digit EBIT margin of 9.9%. This recovery is primarily driven by the higher sales, but, and this is almost more important, it's not driven by cutting investment behind our brands.

Within this result, there is a big increase versus prior year of approximately SEK 30 million in marketing, coming both from having pulled back on marketing last year due to COVID, but also as a result of stepping up investment versus historical levels to support the rebound and the new launches that we've spoken about. I'm going to come back to this when we look at the total sales and general and admin. The profit growth net of last year's shift of cost to Q3 is then really driven by two things, the rebound in volume, which, of course, is also good for our supply chain, and margin-enhancing initiatives in Pick & Mix. Versus prior year, mix is not a major driver here. It's quite stable, a tad bit favorable. Obviously versus 2019, we still have a challenge with the refreshment.

Now, partially offsetting this volume-driven profit growth are increasing cost for sales and general and admin, primarily the step-up in marketing that I mentioned, and I will drill down a little bit closer into the sales, general, and admin on a separate slide. The key takeaway here is that the quality of the profit growth is good. It's not coming from cutting investments in our brand, but actually opposite. That is then a good place to move on to looking at the profit by segment. I'm pleased to report that the branded packaged business delivered SEK 136 million in operating profit adjusted, which is really the same as in Q1 despite the step-up in marketing investment that I mentioned.

Versus prior year, as you see here on the top right, and having adjusted for the cost that last year was phased to Q3, you see the red box of negative SEK 9 million. You do not see the big increase in marketing that I mentioned. Obviously, most of that SEK 30 million sits in the branded packaged segment. The reason that you only see SEK 9 million here is because favorable offset from the higher volumes. Again, the mix versus last year is largely unchanged, but it is nonetheless unfavorable compared to pre-pandemic, given that our refreshment category, pastilles and gum, remain more suppressed and much more dependent on the mobility. Part of the stepped-up marketing investment is, of course, going to support the refreshment category, and we have committed to bring it back again and our overall branded packaged profit.

In summary, the quality of the branded packaged profit is solid. The mix is still not where we want it, that is also an opportunity to further improve on this margin when those sales are coming back. With respect to Pick & Mix, in Q1, I said we needed the consumer to be picking and mixing and driving scale and efficiencies, yet that we believe we could get back to profit without fully reaching the pre-COVID volumes. I'm pleased to report a good progress on this. In the quarter, we are at about breakeven, if you will. Last year, obviously, we had a loss per quarter of an average around SEK 40 million. In Q1, we had brought that down to SEK 24 million in loss, and now at about breakeven. Actually better than in Q2 2019.

It's touch and go, and a lot of work remains to make this sustainable. That said, it's also important to note that this result, of course, includes Pick & Mix's fair share of common costs that we have in headquarters, IT, supply chain, et cetera. There is nonetheless a favorable overall contribution in there. Ultimately, however, the most relevant comparator here is probably not 2019 or 2020, but where we want to be. Clearly, this is not where we want to stop, and as volumes continue to recover, so can the profitability in addition to other margin-enhancing initiatives we're taking. We talked about fairer pricing, reducing cost for warehousing and distribution, merchandising, support functions, et cetera. We're going to try to pull all of those levers. Moving on to SG&A.

You see here on the left side the SEK 53 million, excluding forex and items affecting comparability, of which, as I mentioned, approximately SEK 30 million relate to the step-up in marketing spend. This step-up has two parts. First, it is putting back the spend we held back on in Q2 last year because of COVID. At that time, I shared information that you could conclude that it was about SEK 15 million or SEK 16 million. We were favorable SEK 63 million, and I mentioned that about a quarter of that related to lower marketing. Those SEK 15 million, SEK 16 million, the first piece is we put that money back in, and then we've added almost the same amount on top of that, getting to the total of approximately SEK 30 million. This brings our spend above prior levels in support of the rebound and our new innovation.

Excluding this marketing step-up, that still leaves an increase in SG&A of about SEK 20 million versus last year. Let me explain why this is going up. First, last year, I shared that we had reduced the cost, excluding the savings on marketing, by about SEK 47 million. When costs are up SEK 20 million, it means that more than half of those SEK 47 still remains as the saving in this P&L for Q2, which is good, and that's what we want to do with, obviously, VIP Plus. Secondly, if you wonder why are not all the savings still in there, well, I had also shared last year that cost would start to come back as the business also started to normalize, and that's what we see here in quarter two. Obviously, the rebound in sales for Pick & Mix naturally brings higher cost for merchandising.

We also have, let's call it, the absence of last year's government support with respect to furloughing employees, and we also have investments behind fixtures to help drive this rebound. In a way, these are good cost increases, and you can also tell from the good progress we have had on building profitability back in Pick & Mix. Secondly, we have continued to invest. We've invested in e-commerce, and Henri's going to talk more about that, and in other capabilities, such in marketing, new S&OP system. Of course, there's the annual merit increase. These are the things we need to do to safeguard growth going forward. On the flip side, we have also continued to deliver new VIP Plus savings, and those are more than offsetting merit and some of the other one-time savings we took in 2020. Very good. Moving on to cash flow.

We had a healthy free cash flow for the quarter, delivering SEK 102 million on a net profit of less than SEK 100. Compared to 2020, when we built inventories during Q2 to safeguard production and product supply due to COVID, the free cash flow is improved by SEK 220 million. That said, that very significant uptick is primarily driven by the comparator, and in Q2 2021, we are holding our working capital fairly flat versus where we started the quarter. You can see that in the free cash flow here. It really is the profit that's coming through, not changes in working capital. Now, with respect to that working capital, days inventory on hand is 89 days, so we are down actually 19 days versus last year, and we're also down by about four days versus where we closed last year.

This is also in line with what we said that we would do. For the same reason, our overall cash conversion cycle is down by 16 days versus last year. Versus year end, we are up three days, but that is in line with our historical trends, because every year, we exit with very low receivables, given that there's hardly any sales after the Christmas holiday. Also, we do need to build up some inventory versus year end as we head into the summer to have enough production when we come out of the summer, given the vacations. With the seasonality of our business, we tend to generate our cash in the second half of the year. Although now we have already delivered a solid SEK 130 million free cash flow year to date.

Obviously, huge improvement versus last year by about a SEK 0.25 billion . When you think about our cash flow, you have to remember that in the back half of last year, we also had incredibly strong cash flow, both on account of bringing inventories down by almost two weeks, and also with the second wave of COVID that hit Q4 sales and really low ending year sales, so lower receivables. When we report Q3 and Q4, obviously we're going to compare to that tougher comparator, not to have these great first half results being misinterpreted. For my last slide, as you know, leverage is one of our key financial targets alongside sales, EBIT, and dividend, and I'm trying to capture that on this slide.

You can see from the bar chart on the left that our utilized credit facilities in commercial papers total SEK 2.3 billion, on the right, that we have access to additional unutilized credit facilities and commercial papers not yet on the market of SEK 600 million and SEK 750 million, for a total of almost SEK 1.4 billion. That's down versus what we had in Q1, and is driven by our revised, and I would argue, refined financing, which has allowed us also to reduce cost. In addition, we held SEK 272 million in cash at the end of Q2, hence my conclusion that our financial position remains strong. During the quarter, we finalized the refinancing of our group through our existing club of banks.

I also mentioned that in Q1, and I want to repeat that I am very pleased the refinancing has not only been completed ahead of schedule, but also with strong interest from our full banking group to continue to partner with us. Now, this financing consists of two loans and a revolving credit facility repayable in June 2023, 2024, and 2025, and each with the possibility of extending for an additional two years. This secures our financing. It gives us flexibility for the coming years. In addition, we're going to continue our existing commercial paper program, and hence, this allowed us to reduce the revolving credit facility by SEK 60 million and provide those savings. As for the leverage, our net debt versus EBITDA is 2.8, so that's unchanged versus Q1.

It is a little bit higher than our target of 2.5, but it's fully in line where we normally are in Q2, given that that is also the quarter when we pay for our dividends. On that positive note, that concludes my part of this presentation, and I hand back to Henri.

Henri de Sauvage Nolting
President and CEO, Cloetta

Yeah. Thanks, Frans. I thought it may be interesting to just show you progress in two areas which we are having as strategic areas in our Cloetta strategy to organic growth. One is, of course, e-commerce. As part of the strategy, we developed that already in 2018 as an important area. A lot of work has already gone in pre-COVID in establishing a organization, but also in particular the infrastructure like PIM systems, which is a way to share data with e-commerce players, all that was more or less ready when the pandemic struck. We were fully able to exploit the big move of shoppers into e-commerce. Why is that important? Well, also because we think this is a behavior which has only been accelerated by the pandemic, which is not going to go back.

Apart from the e-commerce pilot in Denmark, you can see over here some great sales numbers. Of course, a lot of traction in these channels, but also we can see now that the operational execution, as I call it, is getting better and better. That cooperation partnership with the likes of Amazon really working well with launching a specific SKUs for them. Big sizes, as you can see, 4.2 kilos of jelly beans in the U.K. being a really big success over there. Also working with them on building the brands, which is a very nice way, again, in the U.K., where we basically have two brands, Chewits and The Jelly Bean Factory, and supporting that growth through an e-commerce strategy.

I talked a little bit about how do we regain penetration for gum and pastilles, and again, a nice example with Jenkki, a little bit of a smaller picture, but a checkout promotion with Jenkki. People buying online with one of the major retailers in Finland, getting an offer for Jenkki when they are at the checkout. It surprised the retailer, surprised us how much we were able to sell of that, and the kind of fold drop rates at the checkout for such a promotion is really important.

I would say also the new organization where we have a small central team with experts operationally in how to manage pure players, and then working with the key account managers in the countries that resulted in two of our growth markets, U.K. and Germany, that we are having the SKUs which are number one in their respective category within the Amazon business. That's also for Germany, the Red Band brand, I just said is the biggest brand position we have in Cloetta. It's great to see that it becomes number one in wine gum portfolio sold under Amazon. Great progress. Of course, a lot more to capture and we're learning more or less every day, but much more to exploit over here.

I thought as the second thing to maybe share, if we go to the next slide, Nathalie, is the fruit-based candy, because it is a really different thing. The most important thing that 50% of the product is really made from fruit. It's not like syrup or fruit taste, or fruit juices. It's really the fruit puree, which we have been able technically to make candy of, so that 50% of the candy is made of real fruit. The way this now is being launched is a nice example of premiumization, which is so important to generate more growth margin and to help us in the road to 14%. It also is something which is long-lasting. It's not just a line extension. It's a completely new platform in that sense, and we do it across markets.

You can see now Gott & Blandat, but it also goes into, for example, Finland. Of course, Gott & Blandat is in all the three Scandinavian markets, and we're rolling this out under all the candy brands we have. That is very important. You can see that new consumers are coming, in particular younger ones, which of course, is what we were hoping for because that's what all the consumer tests were telling us. Of course, also families with children who are more conscious about what they are buying, they see this concept as very interesting. That, again, for the future is also very important because in that way, we bring those people into the Gott & Blandat brand, so really important. Then we can also see that with two SKUs, we are already able to get something like 20% of the Gott & Blandat sales into this new concept.

We haven't even really started when we-- these numbers are not from last week. We haven't even started to put the media campaigns on there, which you will see on the next slide. We go to the next one. You can see that we are, let's say, on TV, and that although the insight, the consumer insight is the same, and we have made those campaigns all in one go. You see in the bottom, you see the Swedish version, and you might have seen that. In the top you see the Finnish version of the product, and they are different. Although the insight to talk about, is it really 50% fruit? Is it therefore fruit or is it candy? I mean, that is exactly the same.

We have to also be aware that the brands can have different positions, different heritage, and that who are we to try to force the Finnish or the Swedish consumer to look at the same or to try to get the same commercial. There we adapt, and I think that's a strong point from Cloetta that we can adapt and still be cost-effective because we do this all with one media agency, and we shoot it in one go. Of course, outdoor also important, and then what you normally don't see, but that's the in-store execution. Look here at the top picture for Aakkoset. That is one, two, three, four, five, six display palettes in a store really getting the attraction.

As you can see, the visuals in the in-store execution are very much the same as the visuals that people see on the TV or in the outdoor. That's what we then call a real 360 implementation that people might have seen it outdoor or on TV, and then they're being reminded when they are in store. It's not necessarily Aakkoset, Cloetta red or brown boxes. No, it takes the same elements as the commercial into the in-store execution. Very important. We work, of course, a lot with influencers and this product, but also the Kexchoklad Vegan, which we don't show today, and also the Venco Choco D'rop, getting a lot of positive comments. Of course, when you bring something new, like 50% fruit, then people start to talk about it and generating basically publicity or support for the brand through what we then call earned media.

Really good. Very nice to see and a lot of hard work coming to fruition. Yeah. If we come back to the last part, Nathalie, the strategy doesn't change. Three business priorities, the organic growth of the branded business. We talk now a lot about the fact that we focus on the top 25 brands, more marketing investments, making those brands stronger, spending competitively versus competition, and doing that through strong new innovations, which are also margin accretive, really important. Vegan, we talked about I think before, and 15% of the portfolio can now claim vegan, and we're on a journey over there. Also e-commerce as an important sales channel, but also as an important way to build the brand, in particular in the adjacent markets of U.K. and Germany, where we're strengthening our branded position. Really good to see. Yeah.

Pick & Mix, profitability is important and good to see that we now hit breakeven, as Frans said, still with a lower volume. We are able to adjust costs, in particular in the, of course, in the distribution and merchandising to be able to do that now that we get in a little bit more of a steady state. Very important thing, of course, to be able to report today. The new Candyking premium concept launched in all the countries. It really looks different, very positive remarks as well, in particular in the markets like Norway, U.K., where we had not been investing in rebranding over many years for pre-Cloetta. It looks now more adult, it looks more hygienic, it looks more premium as well. All to support this move upward and adding value to the category, to the shopper or the customers being very enthusiastically.

Of course, we can go further, like those 17 stores in Finland are showing with an even more premium concept. Yeah, a lot of focus and stuff we've been doing on merchandising, that's basically a continuous effort. We're also having good benchmarks between the markets to see who is doing what best and how can we learn from each other. In no means we're at the end over there, and I talked about the e-commerce pilot. Yeah, all the efficiency programs, they continue to deliver the shared service center in Levice for finance is up and running.

That's a fantastic thing, which was achieved all under COVID circumstances, where tasks and duties were being transferred from countries into Levice, which is the Slovakian production site where we've opened on the production site, and we've cleaned part of the office, and that's now where the shared service center is working. It's really great to see. We're working with cloud-based moves so that we can also save cost on service, et cetera. There's a lot going on in that area. The maintenance system is something we picked out that has a lot to talk about in Perfect Plant and not the least about the operational efficiencies of the lines, the imported lines, really stepping up month after month. We're seeing progress over there. That's really good because it gives us lower cost, but it also gives us more capacity for the growth. That's really important.

The refinancing, of course, successfully finalized, as Frans already talked you through. Overall, the business priorities don't change. Of course, the actions are stepping up, and that is very good to see that also the momentum, the enthusiasm in the business to get back, deliver the results are very positive. We just did an employee satisfaction survey with good results, where we can also see where we have been working hard on improving things that it also shows in the employee survey as very positive. Important steps which we've been taking over the last 12 months, not only to manage the COVID crisis, but also to make this a better business going forward in the future. That's where we close and have questions.

Operator

Our first question comes from Andreas Lundberg from SEB. Please go ahead.

Andreas Lundberg
Analyst, SEB

Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. On the profit on the Pick & Mix segment, I think you put it in context. You said you were improving versus 2019, correct? Is that correct?

Henri de Sauvage Nolting
President and CEO, Cloetta

Yeah. Frans?

Frans Rydén
CFO, Cloetta

Yeah.

Andreas Lundberg
Analyst, SEB

Was it more driven by pricing, or is it cost efficiencies, or what could you say about that?

Henri de Sauvage Nolting
President and CEO, Cloetta

Okay, yeah.

Frans Rydén
CFO, Cloetta

Sure.

No, yeah. My comment was versus Q2 2019. I think that let's say the key takeaway here is that we have a real improvement on the profitability versus where we were certainly a year ago and in the back half of last year and in Q1. That's obviously driven both by volumes coming back, but also this plethora of actions that we've taken, whether that was exiting loss-making contracts. As you remember, we mentioned that in Q2 last year. It's pricing, it's the premium CandyKing 2.0 that enables that pricing. The organization, it's more efficient use of merchandising resources, it's distribution costs. There's not one single bullet here, right? It's both what we've done internally, also what we've done externally. That is number one, real improvement.

We are around breaking even, and that's why I think when you look, let's say if you go back and look at 2019 by quarter, you would see that sales could be up or down SEK 10 million, SEK 20 million, and you don't see that profit always moves in the same direction because it really depends a little bit on which country, and if this is full concept or bulk sales, and of course, it has to do with the recovery. We're not saying that everything is fine now. We're saying we're making really strong, good progress, obviously, we want to continue with that.

Andreas Lundberg
Analyst, SEB

On the mix side, on our geographical mix, what can you say there? Sweden as an example, let's compare that to two years ago.

Henri de Sauvage Nolting
President and CEO, Cloetta

I think what I see, of course, is that the societies and the retailers have taken different actions, the comparatives are also different. In Denmark last year, we were in a nearly full lockdown that retailers stopped with Pick & Mix. You can expect the sales over there rebounded even stronger than the average. It's a bit the same in the U.K., where many stores were being closed or where we went into wrapped products to fulfill the policy decisions from the retailers. In Sweden, if that's your reference, of course, there was not a full lockdown, but you also remember that we stepped out of unprofitable contracts in Sweden. The recovery is of course different over the different markets, very much dependent, A, on the actions we've taken in that market, B, on how severe the lockdown was during Q2.

Andreas Lundberg
Analyst, SEB

Are there big seasonalities in Pick & Mix category?

Henri de Sauvage Nolting
President and CEO, Cloetta

Yes. The big one is Easter, mainly in Sweden, less so in Norway, not in U.K., minimal in Denmark, Finland. That is the real big one. We are trying to generate more seasonality around Halloween or Christmas. The big one is Easter.

Andreas Lundberg
Analyst, SEB

All right. Different question on your country split. Sales split by country, if I do the math correct, I know you don't use decimals, but it looks like U.K. and Germany are up quite substantially year-over-year, while countries like Denmark and Norway, it's a little bit offish versus last year. Could you comment on that, or is that correct?

Henri de Sauvage Nolting
President and CEO, Cloetta

Well, everything is growing. That is very nice to see. It's not that one country is staying behind. I'm not going to give the specifics. On Pick & Mix, everybody is growing, and also on the brand that there's only one country which had 50%+ growth last year in branded, which this year is just below zero. The rest is all growing. You know how it goes. You know if everything is growing. Of course, some countries are growing much faster. They're the smaller ones. It takes many years before the size of that country starts to really impact the distribution of the sales over the country. That is not something which I would say is at the moment really happening.

Frans Rydén
CFO, Cloetta

Maybe Andreas, I would add to Henri's answer there. You mentioned Germany and Norway specifically. As you've seen in the presentation, Henri talks about Red Band in Germany, and that we're having some really good progress on that. Of course, that's part of what you're seeing is stronger sales in Germany because of the different attention to Germany than maybe what we've had in the past. It's a really interesting area for us, as Henri said, big markets, wealthy consumers, if you will. On Norway, there we've also spoken about that last year. Norway had sort of a different, COVID had a different implication there because a lot of the Norwegians, they stopped going across the border and shopping in Sweden, and they would consume more domestically. Of course, we had an incredible uplift in Norway last year, and now we have that comparison.

For everyone else, pretty much it's an easy comparator. For the Norwegians, it's a really tough comparator. I think your analysis there is correct, and that's two drivers.

Andreas Lundberg
Analyst, SEB

I see. Then on the raw material side, you talk about some actions by yourself. Do you expect to see a drag here in the near term, or how should we see that going forward? Thank you.

Henri de Sauvage Nolting
President and CEO, Cloetta

Yeah, we deal with that like we always deal with raw materials, that we are discussing that with our customers, and we see a trend. It depends a little bit country by country, but when we see a trend and we establish a trend, be it on raw material or energy or forex, then we announce a price increase, which on average, it has a three-month notice time, and then the price increase is coming through. Since it goes so fast, we're very much on top of this at the moment. We're managing this like we have been managing this in 2019, when we saw also raw material prices really going up. Of course, that's not only raw material. We can see it in transportation. We can see it in energy.

We expect it in salary inflation, so it's better to be on top of that, even though it doesn't impact us now because we're not buying a lot on the stock market. We have contracts with variations going forward. It is, of course, a thing which we will have to cope with going forward. Hence, we signal that, and we have our action programs in place.

Andreas Lundberg
Analyst, SEB

Okay, that's clear. Thanks a lot.

Operator

The next question comes from Nicklas Skogman from Handelsbanken. Please go ahead.

Nicklas Skogman
Analyst, Handelsbanken

Yes, hi. Good morning. I am keen to learn more about this CandyKing premium, how is it different from the regular offering in terms of where you sell it, what products you are selling, and what do you think is the potential market? Is it something you can roll out to basically all stores, or does it need to be a specific market or a specific retailer to offer this?

Henri de Sauvage Nolting
President and CEO, Cloetta

Yeah. Sometimes I think I might not explain it completely in the right way. There's basically two things, Nicklas. One, we have moved now all the countries into what we call the premium CandyKing 2.0 concept. Let's say, take Sweden, where we had Karamellkungen, which was a bit childish with the light blue and the light orange and green colors. Karamellkungen is not there anymore. It's now all CandyKing. It's more colorful, but more important, it's more adult. While doing that, we've also improved the assortment and we have taken pricing because of that, and of course, retailers, their own decision on what to price this up towards the consumer. Of course, in general, then prices are going up. That's what we've been doing across all the Cloetta markets. That's one.

The other one, which is maybe what your question is about, this is a Finnish premium concept. In Finland, we've done the same. On top of that, we have gone to 17 customers, individual stores, in 17 locations, and we have raised the prices quite a lot. There is EUR 1 more per kilo, what the retailers are asking over there. That's on the basis of our price increases due to a better assortment, but also a much more premium concept. It's called the premium mix. It's a wide assortment. It's different, how do you call that, different sizes. Hygiene is the same. It's better segmented, better lighted. It's our latest shelf, which we developed in partnership with the supplier we have, across all the markets. The good thing is, there are two things. The consumers or the shoppers, they really like it.

They're willing to pay the extra price, and we can see that from their feedback that they really appreciate the better quality of the shop, of the assortment. We're also selling more volume. That of course, is very interesting because normally if you raise prices so much, you can maybe see a bit of a drop-down in the volume because some people might feel that this is too expensive. We see also that we sell more volume relative to the other stores, of course. That then leads to the second effect, that these store owners of these 17 stores, they are very supportive and enthusiastic. That means now that there are many other store owners of that same chain asking us, "Can we please get it?" Then there are also the practicalities. Can we execute that?

How do we then deal with national promotions, et cetera. The most important data point for me is that, like we expected, like what we saw from the market research when we do that in a proper way, consumers are willing to pay for a good quality Pick & Mix. We can get out of this constant price spiral downwards, which we're seeing over the last five to 10 years in a lot of the markets, that the only thing which matters is price. That is a very important thing, which I think is worthwhile to share with you, because I feel that this can go into all our markets. Maybe not in all the retail concepts, because we also have discounters, and we don't want to offer the same things to everybody, so that we also help our customers to differentiate from each other.

Yeah, it's very promising. Let's keep it on that.

Nicklas Skogman
Analyst, Handelsbanken

Yeah. It sounds like it. Have you started to insource any volumes in Pick & Mix yet, or sorry, or are you still awaiting to see where the volumes will stabilize?

Henri de Sauvage Nolting
President and CEO, Cloetta

No, we have insourced. That's part of our plan for this year. Of course, we made a volume plan for this year and then said, okay, because we are not completely back on 2019 levels with the Pick & Mix, we can do some more insourcing, and that is continuing also after the summer.

Nicklas Skogman
Analyst, Handelsbanken

Okay. Perfect.

Henri de Sauvage Nolting
President and CEO, Cloetta

Actually, of course, yeah, sorry, a bit of what I just said with the Perfect Plant, because the lines are working more efficiently, we also create capacity by that. Absolutely. That journey continues on the insourcing.

Nicklas Skogman
Analyst, Handelsbanken

Yeah. One more question on Pick & Mix profitability. It looks to me like sales in Q2 organically were down 25% versus 2019, but still profits were better than Q2 2019. We obviously discussed a few of the drivers, but I was wondering, the actions that you have taken now in the last couple of quarters with exiting contracts and the raising prices on some of the m ost challenging, if you will, contracts. I assume it's fully in the Q2 numbers, but when did you start seeing the full effect from that? Or is there still more to come sequentially?

Henri de Sauvage Nolting
President and CEO, Cloetta

Pricing doesn't stop. Like we just talked about the Finland case, we can learn from that. Of course, there where needed, let's say it like that, we can take further pricing and discuss that with our customers. I would say that journey doesn't stop here, that probably never stops. Of course, so long as we're not at the EBIT margins where we think that Pick & Mix is then really contributing, and that would be somewhere north of 5% at least, we're not stopping with pricing and looking for pricing opportunities.

One more time from my side, important to say that when we show you the segment reporting, of course, here Pick & Mix is carrying the full loads of Cloetta cost. It's the head office cost, it's the office rent, of course it's the local management teams, it's the customer service, it's the IT, and of course, in supply chain as well. If we were not producing Pick & Mix on the production line in the [unintelligible] and only had packed products being produced there in two shifts, and now we work three shifts on that line, of course, the write-off and the maintenance cost for that shift, which used to be carried by the pack, is now being carried by the Pick & Mix. Just when we look at profitability, that's all the time something we need to take into account as well. Right.

Nicklas Skogman
Analyst, Handelsbanken

Then I came up with a final question. The refreshment category, which is still lagging behind. To get back to 2019 levels or above, do we only need to see a society going back to the way it was? Or is there anything that could suggest that the underlying demand has changed permanently in your view?

Henri de Sauvage Nolting
President and CEO, Cloetta

Yeah, the first thing, of course, to happen is that we need society, or let's call it more specific, our sales channels to fully open again, right? Because we're not only selling gum or Läkerol in grocery. If we look at the Netherlands, we're very strong in the petrol stations and kiosks, relatively speaking. Of course, when mobility is so down, people who were used to shopping or buying impulse over there, they're not able to do that anymore. That's the first one.

Of course, the second one is, yeah, if people have not been buying and using our brands for more than 12 months, I reckon that it will be a bit of work to bring them back into that habit. Yeah. That's, I think we can also read from other multinationals. I still follow the personal care category a bit, given my old background, and you can see the same kind of comments that have people not working in the office, have not been spending so much time on how they're looking, and using less deodorant, less shampoos, et cetera. That's a bit the same with the mouth, you could say, that people have spent less money or less attention, let's say it like that, on their personal appearance.

That is something we will have to build back, and that's why we're also spending the more money on Läkerol and Jenkki pastilles, for example, we launched this year in Finland to support that comeback, and then in particular in the people who are working, and that's why this Läkerol Crispy is so important to YUP, because it is more aimed towards younger consumers. A bit like what I was showing on the Gott & Blandat real fruit. We're doing that with the YUP Crispy to address younger people in the category because they're the ones who have been dropping out. Yeah, it's both, I would say, sales channels, but also to get behavior back.

Nicklas Skogman
Analyst, Handelsbanken

All right. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. We have no other questions by phone. Back to the speakers.

Nathalie Redmo
Head of Investor Relations and Communications, Cloetta

Henri?

Henri de Sauvage Nolting
President and CEO, Cloetta

Yes.

Nathalie Redmo
Head of Investor Relations and Communications, Cloetta

Would you like to close the call?

Henri de Sauvage Nolting
President and CEO, Cloetta

Yeah, I think so. Thank you very much. I'm pleased with the results. We had a good rebound, as said before. Of course, we know it was a weak comparator in Q2, but I also hope that you got a notion that we have not just been sitting then behind our desks waiting for the rebound. There's a lot of actions we have taken over the last 12 months, which are now bearing fruition and helping us to grow the business back to levels above 2019, and in Pick & Mix, a strong rebound, and in particular, a lot of work on the profitability, because that's, of course, our number one priority for that segment. We will continue with that, and we'll see how we will do. Thank you for your attention today.

Frans Rydén
CFO, Cloetta

Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you.

Nathalie Redmo
Head of Investor Relations and Communications, Cloetta

Thank you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this now concludes our conference call. Thank you all for attending. You may now disconnect your lines.