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C-level Sitdown

Jun 17, 2022

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Hi, and welcome to our first Tobii Dynavox podcast on this beautiful Thursday morning, June 8th, 2022. I'm Tricia Pepper, the company's Senior Content Writer, and today we're getting to know Mikael Bäckström, our Chief People and Sustainability Officer. He'll be talking to us today about Tobii Dynavox culture and sustainability. Hey, Mikael.

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

Hey, Tricia. Not just the company's first podcast, but our first podcast.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Our first, yes.

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

Yeah.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

We're newbies. Of course we're colleagues, so we've met before, but I'd like to get to know you a little bit better. Can you start by telling me an interesting fact about yourself?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

I'm not sure I'm that interesting, but I come from a small town, almost a village, in the northern part of Sweden, very working class, and I come from a working class family as well.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Well, personally, I love the north. Is there anything in particular about your northern roots that got you interested in HR?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

Not maybe my northern roots, but ending up, sort of like in the Swedish army training volunteers. Through that I can trace the passion for HR and Leadership, and it sparked something in me. I both got to support the local community as well as the country, and it introduced me to the field of adult education, which then got me more interested in Behavioral Sciences, which then led me to study HR at Stockholm University.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Sounds like you were one of the lucky ones who found their calling early in life. Did you start working in HR right out of university?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

Yeah, I did. I wasn't that young. I was 32 after graduating, but I had the privilege to work with a lot of exciting companies that have all been quite different. My passion is to build and change things for the better and make the world a better place, piece by piece. At Tobii Dynavox I can really feel that I can share that passion with the rest of the employees working here.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Before joining Tobii Dynavox, you were at Spotify, which of course is another global company based in Sweden. What would you say was the most important thing you learned while you were there?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

Yeah. I was at Spotify for seven years. All through that time and still, they're in hypergrowth, adding a lot of warm bodies to the company, and it's a complex business with employees in, I think more than 30 countries with very different working cultures. My key learning there was rather figuring out how to strengthen the company's culture by focusing on everyone's commonalities rather than the differences.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Right. It sounds like it was quite a ride.

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

Yeah, I can guarantee that.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Tell me a bit about your new role here at Tobii Dynavox?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

Well, I have a fancy business title. I'm the Chief People & Sustainability Officer.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Why are those two functions combined?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

To me, the areas of people and sustainability is very closely linked because it's crucial to have a diverse, inclusive culture where people are constantly learning to build a sustainable business in the long run. Of course, you shouldn't forget about the environmental aspects of sustainability. They are also very important, but our biggest strength is in the S portion of ESG.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

To people who might not be familiar with that acronym, what is ESG?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

It stands for Environmental, Social, and Governance, and our business is very much the S part, the social sustainability and creating significant change within that area.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

This is something we describe in more detail in our first ever sustainability report, isn't it?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

Yeah, we do, and it's my first sustainability report as well. It's part of our annual report. It's a great read. Don't miss it. You can find it on our website.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Agreed. It is definitely not to be missed. Let's get back to you now. How would you describe Tobii Dynavox? I'm sort of always curious to hear how newcomers see the place.

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

I would describe it through our mission, which is to empower people with disabilities to do what they once did or never thought possible.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

I love that you chose to describe the company by our mission. It's such a strong one that it's usually the first thing that newbies learn about Tobii Dynavox, wouldn't you think?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

Yeah. I would almost imagine that people know about our mission before they even apply for a job here as it has sort of a magnetic pull on those who care about it, and I'm sure many employers out there are quite envious about the strong mission we have.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Yeah, I'm sure they are too. For people who've never heard about Tobii Dynavox before, our mission refers to the effect that our products have on the people who use them.

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

Yeah, because we make life-changing solutions to enable people with disabilities such as cerebral palsy, ALS, and spinal cord injury to communicate and live their life to the fullest.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Just to clarify, these are solutions that enable people who cannot use their hands or their voice or both to control a computer, turn on lights, and even generate a synthetic voice with just their eyes.

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

Yeah. That would be one example. Another would be solutions for people who have a speech and language disability, like autism or aphasia. Touch devices, for example, that allow people to press on symbols which then speak their intended words out loud.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Now, it's quite common at Tobii Dynavox for the employees to talk about the accomplishments of our customers in a familiar way, probably in the way you would have heard your Spotify colleagues talk about rock stars. The people who use our products are like our rock stars. We sometimes even refer to them on a first name basis. Can you tell me some of your favorites?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

Yeah. The first that comes to mind is Lucy. She's a French woman with cerebral palsy who is studying computer science. I think she was the keynote speaker at the Women in Tech Conference in Stockholm a few years ago, and she wrote and delivered her speech completely with her eyes. I think she's also the only one that got standing ovations in the conference history.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Yes, that's true. She's totally amazing.

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

I'm also a big fan of James.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Which part of his story do you like best?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

Oh, he's a young man from the U.K. who used one of our devices to say, "I love you, Mom," for the very first time. It's heartwarming.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Yes, James is unforgettable. He and his mom traveled to Stockholm some years back to talk to the whole company about their journey with assistive communication, and naturally, being the rock star that he is, he also got a standing ovation. These are just two examples of so many around the world, aren't they?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

Yeah. As the world leader in Assistive Technology for communication, our solutions have, over, the course of our history, served more than 100,000 people in, more than 65 countries.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

What need do you see for these kinds of solutions globally, and do you think that need is being met?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

No, it's an enormous unmet need for the kind of products we make. Globally, only about 2 million of the estimated 50 million who need communication aids get a diagnosis, and only about 40,000 of those diagnosed are served every year due to low awareness, poor implementation support, and lack of funding.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Wait, are you saying that only 2% of people in the world who are diagnosed with a communication disability actually get a communication aid?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

That's right. As I said earlier, there's an enormous unmet need for this kind of Assistive Technology, and it should be a human right?

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Abs-

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

To be able to communicate.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Absolutely. What ultimately made you decide to join Tobii Dynavox?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

I joined for a lot of reason, but let's focus on the top three. Three we'll come back during our conversation, I'm sure.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Right.

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

The first, of course, is the company's very tangible mission, which we have talked about. It has a magnetic pull on me as well. The second, the role itself, and the fact that when I joined, we were about to split from our parent company with an opportunity to create our own identity, which is super exciting. The third are the people here. I had heard before joining that it was filled with warm-hearted, mission-driven people. What made you join, Tricia?

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

I definitely joined for the mission, and I'm staying for the people. I've been with the company now for just over four years and can say that I have never worked anywhere before with such, warm-hearted, intelligent, and dedicated colleagues. For me, it's hands down the best corporate culture I've experienced.

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

Yeah. Strong culture, sustainability, those two go hand in hand.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

On that note, can you tell me what sets Tobii Dynavox apart in terms of sustainability?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

Making a positive difference is the core of what we do. Like we talked about earlier, we're the social sustainability in the ESG. That's what our entire business is about. That's why all the strategies, working methods, our solution that we develop must be sustainable, and that responsibility rests with the entire company and all the employees, not with a special team or function. In short, we make the world better in three different ways.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Okay, what's the first of those three?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

The first is that we make solutions with a substantial impact on the ability to communicate and the quality of life for people with disabilities, like we talked about Lucy, James, and thousands of others, and this also benefits their families, communities, healthcare system, and society at large. They can live their life to the fullest.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

There's been a lot of talk about the UN Sustainable Development Goals these last few years. Does this fit with any of them?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

Yeah. Many of the UN goals are, in fact, the main focus of our sustainability strategy.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Can you tell me a little bit more about which ones?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

The first ones are number three, good health, well-being, number four, quality education, and number 10, which is reduced inequalities.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Okay, I've got it. The first way to make the world a better place is through social sustainability. What's the second way?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

To provide a healthy and stimulating work environment with a diverse and inclusive workforce, which relates to objective number eight in the UN Sustainable Development Goals, which is decent work and economic growth.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Okay, how will you achieve that?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

By making sure our employees grow and stretch themselves, as well as the team they belong to and the whole company. We will create a strong learning environment where people can share knowledge, expertise, in addition to developing skills in their everyday work. We also plan to focus more long term by having our people take part in trainings, new projects, new roles, so that we can foster a culture where internal mobility is strong.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Okay, check. The second way is through workplace sustainability. I think you mentioned a third way.

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

Yeah, even though our company's main impact is within the S of ESG, like all responsible companies, everyone in the organization is also responsible for reducing our overall environmental footprint or impact by, for example, cutting down emissions from energy consumptions, product transport, business travel, and we're paying really, really close attention to designing our products to cope with rougher use since they will often be unintentionally dropped, for example. All the hardware we offer is very durable and designed to allow repair and replacements of components to maximize their lifetime.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Wow. Thank you for mapping all of that out, for everybody. Is it okay with you if we switch gears a bit before we wrap up?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

Let's.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

You mentioned a couple of times that people are the key to long-term sustainability, and many employers in the med tech and tech sectors these days are struggling to attract and retain talented staff. How do you plan to address this challenge at Tobii Dynavox?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

There's no shortcut. It's constant work and improvement, and we're going to have to make sure that we are attractive to the people that we want to reach, the people that are truly passionate about our mission, and come to us with something that adds to our culture.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

What steps will you need to take to get there?

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

We talked about making sure people are growing, stretching themselves, make sure that they will feel part of a high-performing team, where their unique experience is valued. It helps us reach even more people with disabilities and get even better at employing them. We will need to build a safe community where our people can be supported as individuals going through the different things in life, and of course, we want to compensate our people fairly, among other things.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

Right. Mikael, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with us today.

Mikael Bäckström
Chief People and Sustainability Officer, Dynavox Group

You're welcome. Thank you for listening.

Tricia Pepper
Senior Content Writer and Strategist, Tobii Dynavox

If our listeners are interested in learning more about us, we encourage you to head over to our website, tobiidynavox.com, where you will find even more about our mission as well as more success stories about people like Lucy and James. Thank you very much for listening.

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