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Earnings Call: Q1 2024

Apr 26, 2024

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

Hi, and good morning, and welcome to this call where we go through Eltel's results for the first quarter. My name is Elin Otter, and I'm Head of Investor Relations here at Eltel until the rest of the day, actually. With me today, I have our President and CEO, Håkan Dahlström, and our CFO, Tarja Leikas. Håkan and Tarja will start by going through the presentation, and we will open up for questions after that. You are welcome to submit your questions either through the website or through the phone conference. But with that, I'm handing over the word to you, Håkan.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Thank you, Elin. Thank you, and good morning, all. So during the first quarter of 2024, we see a net sales development where we have EUR 176 million in net sales, and that is down with EUR 12 million, whereof EUR 8 million of those are within the segment. Happy to see that the order book continues to increase, and we estimate it to be EUR 1.2 billion it has now. That is an increase from EUR 1.1 billion a quarter ago. During the quarter, we have been able to sign new contract to a value of EUR 112 million, and of this, the share that is new businesses, as we call it, is 6%. So, the new strategy we launched a little bit more than a year ago is starting to deliver new commitment from customer. That think that is really great.

However, what is not so great during the first quarter is the net sales development in Norway. So of this EUR 8 million lower net sales in the first quarter that we have in the segment, EUR 6-EUR 6.5 million is from the Norwegian business, and that is, of course, a problem for us, and that also visible in the result. And the result then is -EUR 4 million, an improvement from last year with EUR 1.5, but, nevertheless, not on the level we sort of expect it to be. So, what is then good in this first quarter is that this part of the year, the seasonality effect is very rough on us, and normally, we build up net working capital, and the cash flow is quite demanding during this time of the year, also for the second quarter.

But this year, I would claim that we have a relative very strong development in the financial position. We have improved liquidity. We have been able to reduce the net working capital, and of course, a part of this reduction with EUR 54 million in less net working capital is due to the divestment that we have been able to sign an agreement about for High Voltage Poland. But the part of that is roughly EUR 14 million of this EUR 54 million. Also, the cash flow is a bit better than last year, and with this, we see a return of capital employed of 9.7%. So to me, this is a good step forward in the right direction when it come to our financial strength.

As I mentioned, and most likely you have seen, we have, during the quarter, also agreed with Mutares that they will take over our High-voltage business in Poland, and I will open up a little bit more on, about this on the next slide. And then after that, we will also talk a little bit about the progress we have in executing of our strategy. But on the right side, I would also like to point to you an example in this strategy that is the solar, solar PV, and here is a picture from a park outside Helsinki, Joroinen. It's a 10 megawatt solar park, meaning that it is utility scale. It's our first utility-scale solar installation, and we are ahead of schedule in this. We started to work on the solar park last year, in the later part of last year, and we see great progress.

This is a really important proof point for us that we can deliver these sort of things, and also that our IT support process and everything has been developed in the right way. So really good to see that the team that is doing this is ahead of plan. With that said, I come back to High Voltage Poland and the agreement about the divestment here. High Voltage Poland, in short, is a business that have a minor part services, it's services on substations, but a larger part of the business, a very large part of the business, is project. And those project can be to build a substation or an overhead line. They are quite long project, they're quite complex, and in this market that we now are talking about, the condition in that market is very customer friendly.

When you have this type of complex project, long lead time, complex, situation with right of way and other type of permission, it is frequently so, at least in our experience, that unexpected things is happening. And when the market conditions are so customer friendly, it's very difficult to find common solution on those issues. So our business in Poland, with 410 employees, will be transferred to Mutares somewhere here during the second quarter. To be able to take this step, we have prepared this for some time. We have reshaped the scope of the business. We have reduced the working capital, also improved the cash flow from this business significantly. This has made this portion of our business sellable, I would claim.

On the right side, you can see the net sales and adjusted EBITDA for this part of our business during the last four years. And of course, this, if we now can leave this behind and in new hands, this will improve our possibility in Eltel to have an operation going forward with a stronger growth and a lower net working capital, but also a possibility to reach a higher EBIT, EBITDA margin. So reduced risk, less complexity, also a possibility for me and other people in the management team to focus on our core market. All of this have then a financial impact, of course. So the cash flow effect of this is EUR 3.75 million, and that is sort of the whole cash flow effect of this. Then, of course, there is a one-off on the EBIT here with EUR 23 million in effect.

With that said, I would like to come back to the demand in the market, and the same picture that we have shown for some time. So we see here a good development in the committed order backlog, meaning that this is purchase order received from frame agreement and project. And here we see that we have a double-digit improvement year-over-year, so I'm really happy with that. We also see that these new commercial terms that we have talked about, that this, the portion of them that is impacting the operation that we have at hand, is growing according to plan. So we expect that this 44% of everything we do during this year will be based on these new commercial terms. So I think that is also really important for us, because this is one important cornerstone in our work to improve our profitability.

When we look at what is the content of, sort of, the market demand, we see that power is increasing faster than we have estimated it before. We also see that the intensity in the communication business is reduced, and also is reduced a bit more than we have expected. So I will claim that there is an accelerated shift in volumes from communication to power. With that said, I would like to hand over to Tarja to talk us through the group numbers.

Tarja Leikas
CFO, Eltel

Thank you, Håkan. Eltel's first quarter result is in line with our expectations, even with the rapid reaction from our customers to the updated regulation in Finland, the material logistic hampering four-week-long political strike in Finland, and the heavier than normal winter conditions in Nordics, which I pointed out when we previously met. Our net sales declined 6.4% in reporting currency and 5.9% in local currencies. In Sweden, we report positive development in net sales, and in Norway, net sales development was the most negative.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Mm.

Tarja Leikas
CFO, Eltel

Regarding profitability, we note that our adjusted EBITA has improved from negative four million. The positive contributors here were Finland and other business. We report positive development in return on capital employed, which has turned from -7.9 to 9.7. This is an outcome of, of course, our result improvement and lower amount of operative capital employed. Håkan already gave some light to our Poland divestment. The HV Poland divestment has been estimated to have EUR 23.2 million negative impact on group EBIT. The negative cash impact of the divestment is, as mentioned, EUR 3.75 million. Then we move on to the segments, starting from Finland, which share of Eltel Group is 35%. Here, net sales took small step backwards compared to previous year, declining by 3% to EUR 62.4 million.

We had good winter volumes in communication and smart grids, but the four-week-long political strike had negative impact on power distribution's material logistics. Additionally, the updated regulation has disturbed our customers' investment plans. Adjusted EBITA improved EUR 2 million and came to negative EUR 300,000, where the main contributors were communications good volumes and stabilization of the two unfavorable power services contracts. Particularly welcome here is the lower right-hand corner. There is the positive twelve-month rolling EBITA development. It reflects the energy built in the Finnish organization. In Finland, we have created a good momentum. Then I go to Sweden, which share of Eltel is 28%. We are very happy to note that Sweden has continued on the growth path.

We saw a decline in communication, but smart grids volumes more than compensated this. We recorded EUR 49.8 million net sales, which equals to 2.7% growth in local currency compared to previous year. Adjusted EBITA was euro-wise on the same level as previous year, being EUR 500,000. Then we go to Norway, which share of Eltel operations is 14%. Net sales declined in Norway, and it has continued to, continued to decline, now -16.6% in local currency. This is below our expectations and reflects the further reduced cost, reduced level of customer investments and delays in 5G. The heavy winter conditions may make the outcome even more unfavorable, leading to lower than expected utilization rates. As a result, profitability, adjusted EBITA, remained negative, -EUR 1.7 million.

The positive side here is that despite further reduced volumes, Norway succeeded avoiding further profitability decline. But performance-improving actions, including reduction in staff, investments to growth, and efforts to broaden the customer base and service offering continue. Then we move on to Denmark, which share of Eltel operations is 12%. Throughout last year, Denmark had record high growth, as we can see in the net sales table in the right-hand corner. Last year's fourth quarter was very high in volumes. This has now impacted the first quarter volumes, and we see more typical start for the year. We also faced expected endings of two customer contracts, and now reported net sales decline of EUR 700,000 is in line with our expectations. The profitability reflects the short-term top-line decline and came to EUR 700,000, and to 3.4% margin.

For our Danish operations, we are confident in our ability to grow as the year progresses. And then I go to other business, where we had the divestment news to share. Business-wise, net sales declined from previous year and came to EUR 18.7 million. HV Poland's share of this was EUR 7.3 million. Here we report a profitability improvement. EBITA loss has halved and came to EUR -500,000. And that completes the first quarter segment financials, and I have the balance sheet items for you. In all here presented balance sheet items, we report major improvement, underlying our strengthened financial position. Our leverage has improved from last year, slightly over six, now to 3.5. Net debt has decreased from EUR 158 million to EUR 115 million. Interest bearing debt from EUR 130 million down to EUR 76 million.

working capital development has been positive. From negative EUR 5 million, we go down to negative EUR 59 million. With this balance sheet news, we complete the first quarter financial report, and take a look at Eltel's financial target setting, which we keep unchanged. These targets are by the end of 2025. Profitability, group adjusted EBITA margin, 5%. Growth, annual growth, 2%-4%. Leverage between 1.5 and 2.5, and dividend payout is, of course, subject to leverage target. Thank you for your attention, and I hand over to Håkan.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Mm-hmm. Thank you, Tarja. Thank you. So with this said, we have a quick look at our strategy, and here, the cornerstone in our strategy is that we have to improve our efficiency and profitability of the current business, and here, of course, pricing and new commercial terms is a major part. We also have a need in most markets to broaden our customer base, and this is a work that is ongoing, and we will keep up that going forward also. We also see this new and adjacent market to be a great opportunity for us, and here we see a strong demand and a great interest to do more things together with Eltel. So very optimistic about this, and we see that the trend in the society is really giving us tailwind here.

Sustainability, as we have said before, start to become really important for all different type of stakeholders around us, and we are very happy for that. We think we have a really good position in this, and we are continuously improving also our work inside Eltel in this area. Also, an important part is the commercial capabilities and the, our concept around everything we do, and here we do progress, and this is something that I see that we also will continue going forward. New business models and expanding our position in the value chain is a component in the strategy and might be that part of our strategy where we have less progress up to today. But giving you a little bit more insight of how I see the, the progress here.

I see that we have the improved profitability and financial position here on, on the way, and one necessary step to reach our target is this divestment of high-voltage Poland. We also see that the customer base is developing in a good way, and here we have 40 new customers that have bought something significantly from us during the quarter ahead, quarter behind us. So on those EUR 112 million in new contract, we see that more than EUR 9 million of this is signed by these new customers. So a reasonable portion, as I see it, if we can keep up 8% new customer commitment every quarter. So also the new business, if you look at the right side, here is how we are following the progress in the new business.

First, of course, we have to build capabilities and sales organization, and that we have done, and they have now delivered a reasonable pipeline, I would claim. So the pipeline of Eltel today is larger than ever, and a really good portion of that is this new business. We have been able to transform a portion of this pipeline into new contract during this quarter, and I expect, of course, this portion to increase going forward. But now, just now, we are at 6%. Then the revenue we have in the first quarter might not be impressive, that sort of the total revenue, 2% of that is from new business, but it's 2% more than we had for a year ago, and that is also, of course, a portion of our revenue that I estimate to grow quite rapidly.

So I will claim that there is a development in the right direction, and we see that we have taken really important step in this. We are not done in any way, of course. This is one year into the strategy, but we have taken really important first steps. So organization is there, the ramp up is done in most market, in most areas. We have more to be done, of course, but we see that also the market is here giving us the tailwind, as I mentioned. So there is new contract and new commitment in all different areas, with exception of wind. We see that in the market here, there is very low interest just now for wind, and this might continue, as I see it, for a coming one more year or maybe one and a half year.

But I'm convinced that somewhere there, one and a half to two years from now, we will also talk about wind here on this slide. So with that said, I think I hand over back to you, Elin.

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

Well, thank you, Håkan. Thank you, Tarja. Let's see if we have any questions starting from the phone conference.

Operator

If you wish to ask a question, please dial pound key five on your telephone keypad to enter the queue. If you wish to withdraw your question, please dial pound key six on your telephone keypad. The next question comes from Lara Mohtadi from ABG Sundal Collier. Please go ahead.

Lara Mohtadi
Equity Research Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Hi, Lara here from ABG. I was just wondering, regarding the divestment of the Polish high voltage business, should we assume that that was included in your 5% margin target, or is the goal now to exceed 5% EBIT margin by year end 2025 after making this margin deal?

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Mm-hmm. Thank you for the questions. This is a necessary step to reach that target of 5%, so this doesn't mean that we increase or change the target in any way. This is a way to reach that target.

Lara Mohtadi
Equity Research Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Okay, thank you. I'm also wondering if to what extent did the larger Finnish strikes in Q1 affect you? Are you able to quantify this, the rough effects, how it impacted your earnings?

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Yeah, on earnings, I would claim that it did have a very minor impact. We see that some activity is a bit delayed, but not so that we could say that that is a visible impact on the earnings. Four weeks, and we had some material for the power business in the harbor that we couldn't get out, but no real impact that we could say.

Lara Mohtadi
Equity Research Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Okay, thank you. Just one more question: How would you say your current demand is from your new revenue streams, for instance, solar, electric vehicles, and such? How do you expect that will also develop during the year?

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

I think there is a lot of activities in solar, in, EV mobility, but also in the BESS, the battery and energy storage system. The latter one might be a little bit behind the EV. That is, I would claim, the first mover, and solar is, of course, also very active. We see that there is many projects that are now up for discussions that are really sizable. So this Joroinen, that we have now done the majority of the work on, and I'm really happy of the progress and the proof point we have been able to receive there when it come to processes and IT and so. So we are very optimistic about that domain going forward. There is a lot of interesting things happening here.

Then the battery energy system, they're a little bit next time slot, sort of.

Lara Mohtadi
Equity Research Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Okay, thank you. That was very clear.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Thank you.

Lara Mohtadi
Equity Research Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

That's all from my end. Thank you very much.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Thank you.

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

All right, and there are no further questions on the phone conference, so let's go to the ones that have been posted on the website. The first one comes from Markku Moilanen, Nordea, and there are a few, so-

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Mm-hmm

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

... Your gross margins improved significantly compared to Q1 2023. Was that due to pricing impact or change in sales mix? Is this sustainable change?

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

I would claim that it is a mix.

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

Mm-hmm.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

We see an effect. We were hit about the inflation, and, as we have talked about, we didn't really have the contract and the indexes in place when the inflation came. If it was an index, it might not have been the right index, and I think we have adjusted all of that. So we are reasonably protected today for everything on index and inflation, so I think that is one part of it. Then there's also when we talk about our commercial terms, that we have been able to move our position when it come a bit to pricing, invoicing terms, payment terms, all of this, the whole package, but also, of course, the business mix. But I would claim, yet, I would say that the business mix is the smaller part of it.

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

Yeah.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

So I think the commercial term index pricing is a big part of it, but also then the cost efficiency program we did during last year.

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

Mm-hmm.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

We have taken significant action to reduce our cost structure last year, and I think we see that a little bit here in Q1, even though we still have more to do in Norway.

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

Mm-hmm.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Mm-hmm.

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

Mm-hmm. Also regarding high-voltage divestments, you mentioned that the divestment will result into negative cash flow effect of EUR 3.75 million. What is causing this negative cash flow impact, and is this the net cash flow of the whole divestment?

Tarja Leikas
CFO, Eltel

It is the agreement that we agreed with Mutares, and asked about the if EUR 3.75 million is the whole, yes, it is.

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

Mm-hmm. Do you have other weak-performing projects at the moment within the group, outside of high-voltage Poland?

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

... No, I don't see that we have any problem areas in the same way. We have talked about that we have two contracts in Power Services Finland that is not on the expected level of profitability.

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

Mm.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Of course, we have part in the organization, teams somewhere, a contract somewhere, that is not where we want to be or we should be. Of course, when the net sales is dropping as fast as it has done during first quarter in Norway.

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

Mm

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

... that gives us profitability issues and problem. That-

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

Mm.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

But nothing that I would say could compare with what we have seen in high-voltage Poland.

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

Mm-hmm.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Far from that.

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

Yeah.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Mm-hmm.

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

What is the main pushback in Norway? Why are customers reducing their investments? Can you comment on how the order intake has developed in Norway? Is the weakness expected to continue?

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Mm. I think we see that, a big portion of what we have done in Norway and also do today is, of course, fiber. A lot of that fiber deployment rollout is fiber to the home. And now the fiber penetration in Norway have come quite far, so we don't expect this to grow going forward. It will be a decline on that demand, and that is expected. What was not expected was that it would be so much during first quarter this year.

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

Mm.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

That was not expected. But I would say there is no sort of bounce back here to what was during 2022 or something like that, no.

Tarja Leikas
CFO, Eltel

Mm-hmm. We have to remember here what is going on in the interest rates. So of course, when we are dealing with investment projects, the customers, they choose when they launch their investment projects, and obviously now the high interest rate, that makes the decision, decision point a bit further, so understandable. Mm-hmm.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Mm.

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

Final question. Yes, this is the final question that we have. Can you disclose what was the financial impact from the political strikes in Finland, and do you expect any further impact from the strikes affecting Q2?

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

No real impact at all on Eltel. Some delay in some projects-

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

Mm

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

... but nothing that is of the size that it's visible on the earnings.

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

Mm.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

It's a minor delay in net sales, but really small.

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

Mm. Also, in Q2?

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Also in Q2.

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

Well, great. Thank you.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Mm-hmm.

Elin Otter
Head of Investor Relations, Eltel

There are no further questions, so that concludes this call. We present our Q2 report on the 25th of July, and hopefully you will join us then. In the meantime, feel free to reach out for questions if you have any. If not, thanks for participating in today's call. Thank you.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Thank you.

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