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Earnings Call: Q1 2025

Apr 30, 2025

Alexandra Kärnlund
Communications Director, Eltel

Good morning and welcome to this teleconference or web conference where we will present Eltel's first quarter results. My name is Alexandra Kärnlund. I am the Communications Director at Eltel. Here with me today to present the results is our CEO, Håkan Dahlström, and our CFO, Tarja Leikas. Warm welcome. After the presentation, we will open up for questions. Throughout the presentation, you can submit questions either via the website or dial in via the phone conference. With that, I'd like to hand over first to you, Håkan.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Thank you, Alexandra. Also welcome from my side to this presentation from Eltel. Eltel, the leading provider of services in the Nordic in critical infrastructure, it areas as communication and power. It means that Eltel enables the digitalization and electrification of our society in many areas. This includes mobile communication, fiber network, private network, but also on the power side, high voltage overhead lines, substations, distribution network, but also things like street lighting. We also have become active in green energy production, including solar parks and wind parks. It does not end with that. We also are active in energy storage, electrification of transport, and other areas like smart metering. During the first quarter, we see that many of these areas are active. However, we see lower activity levels in communication than in power. We have talked about this before. The exception, I would claim, is the Swedish market.

First quarter leaves us with improved profit. Organically, we have a net sales that is some growth, 0.6%. This is mainly driven by our Swedish operation. The gross profit, as we are very focused at here in Eltel, increased with 20% during the quarter. We see that this trend that we have had continues. During the last 12 months, the profit improvement has now become significant. We see also the result on that adjusted EBITDA. Year- over- year, we see an improvement of EUR 4.9 million. In absolute terms, maybe the adjusted EBITDA is not so impressive with EUR 900,000 in the first quarter. With that seasonality that we have in our industry, it is a relatively strong first quarter and is the strongest first quarter for Eltel in many, many years. With this, we have seven consecutive quarters with improved adjusted EBITDA.

We want, of course, to continue this trend. We also see that our financial position in general is improved. Here we have an improvement of networking capital and cash flow. This is, of course, extremely important. We are really happy to see the improvement of cash flow being EUR 22 million better this quarter than a year ago. This, of course, as you understand, helps us also on net debt and leverage, and a leverage of 2.1, I would say. I have to say that I'm pleased with now in the end of the first quarter. If we then look a little bit inside the operation and see what has happened during the first quarter, we can see here that the first solar park that we have been active in in Sweden are now in production. That is, of course, great.

We also have finalized our delivery and our contribution to a solar park in Denmark during the quarter. The new really large project for us to establish a new solar park in Finland of the size of 129 MW in peak power is according to plan. Very important project helping us, also a good reason for the improvement of networking capital and cash flow in the first quarter where Finland contributed mainly due to this project. An area that is very active is the energy storage. Here we can see that we during the quarter have finalized our delivery of some of our first systems both in Finland and in Denmark. That is really nice to see. Also in e-mobility or electrification of transport, we see high level of activities.

During the quarter, we had success winning a frame agreement in Sweden that I believe will be important for us going forward. We are very active in many of these types of discussions to electrify the transport of the Nordics. Data center, a relatively new area for us, is now starting to become visible in the order book here in the first quarter. It is really nice for us to see that. The very important broadening of our customer base, particularly towards the public infra, has gained some significant result here in the beginning of the year. I would claim that it is a really good start of the year. Also winning contract in what I call classic business in power, but also within communication where we see that we have both new customers, improved margin, and secured classic customer.

As you're aware of, we have issues in our operation in Norway, and we have now been able to speed up the change of our Norwegian operation under the leadership of our new MD, Ingrid. I'm really happy to see the start of this. We are not out of this yet, but I'm convinced that we are on the right track to a much better and solid performance also in Norway. With that highlights, I would like to hand over to you, Tarja, to give us the numbers.

Tarja Leikas
CFO, Eltel

Yes. Thank you, Håkan. Yes, I am delighted to report on Eltel's first quarter results for January, March, marking the seventh, like you said, seventh consecutive quarter of year-over-year profitability improvement. Our net sales declined by almost 4%, mainly due to the impact of last year's divestment of High Voltage Poland. However, organic growth was 0.6%, with notable growth in Sweden. The growth rate was 6.5%. Regarding profitability, our adjusted EBITA improved by nearly EUR 5 million, reaching a positive EUR 0.9 million. Norway was the only unit to experience a decline in profitability. I would say that overall our first quarter was strong. Profitability improvement remains the cornerstone of our strategy, and the progress in strategy execution is evident. Given the strong seasonality of our business, we are satisfied with the first quarter's positive result. In fact, it has been a decade since Eltel achieved this outcome.

The next slide is something new that we haven't shown you before, and it illustrates our profitability development during the new strategy execution period. The implementation of our current strategy began in the first quarter of 2023. These graphs illustrate the development over the time. Retrospectively, the turning point was the second quarter of 2023. As expected, gross profit reacted more rapidly, while EBITA improvement took a bit longer. During the past year, we have seen more than EUR 8 million improvement in LTM gross profit and more than EUR 12 million increase in latest 12 months adjusted EBITA. I would say quite nice graphs.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Yeah.

Alexandra Kärnlund
Communications Director, Eltel

Yeah. Next, we will take a closer look at our segments. I think we should go to Finland first. Finland accounts for 37% of our operations. Our net sales here declined a bit, EUR 300,000. We experienced strong growth in power driven by green energy investment, but faced lower volumes in communication compared to previous year. Adjusted EBITA improved by EUR 2 million, reaching EUR 1.7 million. Both business areas in Finland contributed to this enhanced profitability. The second largest, Sweden is 31% of Eltel operations after the first quarter. We are pleased to report that Sweden has continued in its growth path. Public infrastructure-driven growth in communication has been particularly welcome. Solar investments have driven power growth and are compensating for lower smart grids volumes compared to last year. We did record over EUR 50 million in net sales, reflecting a strong 6.5% growth compared to last year.

Adjusted EBITA tripled, now to EUR 1.5 million. This is the 12th consecutive quarter for Sweden to have a year-over-year profitability improvement. We have our new segment, Denmark and Germany, which accounts for 18% of Eltel operations. Here we see modest growth in net sales, totaling EUR 30.5 million. Communication in Denmark declined, whereas power grew in both Germany, but especially in Denmark, I have to say. In this newly established segment, we report significant profitability improvement. Adjusted EBITA nearly doubled, reaching 7.9%. This is the highest in the entire Eltel group. This is an excellent result for our newly established segment. We have Norway, which now represents 14% of our operations. Net sales decline in Norway has continued, now negative 7.4% in local currency.

This development is in line with our expectation, and it is reflecting the further reduced investments in traditional telecommunication customers. Our operations remained unprofitable with adjusted EBITA at negative EUR 1.8 million. Towards the end of the quarter, we did see some improvement. Our performance improvement actions will continue in Norway. We have our balance sheet items. Here we have taken a bit longer perspective as well. We illustrate the new strategy execution period again. This 2025 marks the third year on our new strategy execution. All balance sheet items show significant improvement, reflecting our strengthened financial position. We report major improvement in leverage from 6.3 in first quarter 2023 to 3.5 in 2024, and now a healthy 2.1. Net debt was close to EUR 160 million first quarter 2023, EUR 115 million last year, and now we are reporting EUR 104 million in net debt.

Notably, cash flow from operations increased by more than EUR 22 million. The networking capital development is equally positive. In first quarter 2023, it was negative EUR 5 million. Last year, negative EUR 59 million, and now negative EUR 76 million. We are very pleased to see our strategy materializing and results steadily becoming visible. It is time to remind us about our financial targets, which we keep unchanged. Growth, our group adjusted first profitability, group adjusted EBITA margin 5%, growth between 2%-4%, and leverage 1.5-2.5, and dividend payout subject to leverage target. As I mentioned, leverage resulted in a 2.1 outcome this quarter. Just like previous quarter, we have successfully reached our leverage target. Now Håkan will continue with the strategy theme.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Thank you, Tarja. Yes, our strategy in short, as we say, first priority for us is, of course, to improve efficiency and profitability in our core business. That is what we also see good result of here in the quarter, I would claim. The good thing is that we see this in both business areas Tarja is mentioning. Both in communication and power, we see good improvement. Of course, we have the exception of Norway. We also see that the customer base, we have a need of broadening our customer base to be able to deal better with the seasonality in our industry, but also to improve the utilization overall. This is something that I can say we are doing quite well. Public infra is the area that we have gained the most success within. We will continue exploring that customer segment.

In new and adjacent markets as renewable energy, here we have the solar park, here we have the energy storage. We have new things like electrification of transport, private network, and so on. Also, data center starts to become an area for us in this year. We see that in our revenue, and you will see that on the next slide. This strategy has now been for us for two years, and I would claim that we see the impact in our business. On gross profit level, as mentioned before, we are now at EUR 22.2 million in the first quarter, 20% up. Last 12 months, we have improved our adjusted EBITA with more than EUR 12 million. That in combination with the improved cash flow and networking capital, I would claim shows that we are on the way.

The customer base, public infra, as I mentioned, and for the seasonality, a decent total contract value in the quarter with EUR 145.7 million. I will also claim that the content of those contracts are as we have in our strategy. We are doing those services with those customers that we have selected. This leaves us with a solid order book of EUR 1.3 billion. The growth in new and adjacent market is visible here on the right side, where you could see that during the quarter, 6% of our net sales come from these new areas. We see that we have reason to believe that this will increase in the future since 17% of the contract that we signed during the quarter came from this new and adjacent. Our pipeline has a solid portion of these new areas.

When we now look at where we are in the first quarter 2025, compare that to the first quarter 2024, meaning one year into the strategy compared to two years into the strategy, we see that the revenue now is on 6% versus 2% for a year ago. Also, the TCV is now the 17 in relationship to the 6% that we had a year ago. To me, this proves that we are gaining more and more value out of the new strategy. With that, I would say that I think we are taking an important step towards a solid financial performance with this first quarter. We are not yet where we want to be, but this is one milestone on that path. With that, I would say that we have concluded our presentation, and over to you, Alexandra.

Alexandra Kärnlund
Communications Director, Eltel

Yes. Let's open up for questions, but first, of course, thank you, Håkan. Tarja, must have been quite a nice first quarter to present.

Tarja Leikas
CFO, Eltel

Yes.

Alexandra Kärnlund
Communications Director, Eltel

Yes. Good. Let's see if we have any question on the telephone conference. To ask a question, you just press pound key five on your telephone. I believe we have a caller waiting.

Operator

The next question comes from Adrian Gilani from ABG Sundal Coller.

Alexandra Kärnlund
Communications Director, Eltel

Good morning, Adrian.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Alexandra Kärnlund
Communications Director, Eltel

Morning, Adrian.

Adrian Gilani
Equity Research Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Good morning. A couple of questions from my end. I'd like to start off with just to clarify, were there any impacts during the first quarter from the widespread worker strikes in Finland? If so, are you able to sort of quantify that effect?

Tarja Leikas
CFO, Eltel

Were you asking about strikes?

Adrian Gilani
Equity Research Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Yes, the Finnish strikes that we saw in Q1. Did they impact you in any way in your operations?

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

No. No impact that was visible in operations, no.

Adrian Gilani
Equity Research Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Okay. Perfect. On the Norwegian business, the one sort of still lagging behind, are there still extra costs to take for resizing there, and what kind of sort of OPEX savings are also left to realize in coming quarters?

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

We have EUR 600,000 in the restriction cost in the first quarter. We do not foresee more of that ahead of us. We believe we have now, during April, taken all the actions that we need to adjust the organization towards the situation we see in the market ahead of us. We are not out of the woods yet, absolutely not. I think we do not expect any significant cost from that right-sizing.

Tarja Leikas
CFO, Eltel

Yeah, I would say so. That, like you said, in April, we have finalized. There might be some slippage from March to April, but nothing major.

Adrian Gilani
Equity Research Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

On the savings side, how much is left to realize in Q2 and beyond?

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

I don't have such a number for you.

Adrian Gilani
Equity Research Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Okay. Understood. Just a question on the decision to merge the Danish and German segments. Can you just walk us through the rationale? Is that mainly just a reporting thing, or will it have big impacts on the actual operational side of the business?

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

For us, it is a simplification. We have now the same management for Denmark and Germany. The scope of our German business is smart metering. We have the same business in Denmark. We believe that by combining Denmark and Germany, we could have sort of more leverage on our Danish management, and we could see some operational synergies between the two.

Adrian Gilani
Equity Research Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Okay. That's clear. Thank you. I mean, we've seen you showed us the clear lift in profitability. Part of that, of course, is divesting the Polish high voltage business. Are there any remaining units in the current operations that are sort of clearly underperforming where you perhaps don't see a quick fix to the profitability levels and where a divestment might be the best solution?

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

No. We don't see any such unit.

Adrian Gilani
Equity Research Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Okay. Perfect. And then a final one from me. I mean, on capital allocation, we've not seen dividends for quite some time, but now, as you showed, the leverage is trending down quite significantly, and we might be nearing a point where dividends become more relevant. I guess the question becomes, how low does leverage have to go for you to feel comfortable starting to pay out dividends again?

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

We have no such level or number for you today. That's what we have.

Adrian Gilani
Equity Research Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Just some general reflections on, do you feel like you are nearing a point where dividends could be relevant?

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

It's, of course, a target we have to provide dividend, of course. Shareholder value is our first priority, of course.

Tarja Leikas
CFO, Eltel

Absolutely.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Of course. As you know, the situation in Norway is not clear or sorted out to a satisfying level. We have more work to do in all our segments, I would claim. We are seeing a very positive development. Yes, absolutely. The strategy works for us. Yes, I'm happy to see that all business areas are contributing to the improvement. You also see that the absolute level is still lower than what we want to be. We believe that we have a bit more to do by operation excellence, commercial excellence, gaining new contracts in new areas, and with that, improved margin in our operation. Of course, it is with great pleasure that we see that we are at 2.1.

Adrian Gilani
Equity Research Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Okay. Understood. In that case, that's all for me. Thank you.

Tarja Leikas
CFO, Eltel

Thank you.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Thank you, Adrian.

Alexandra Kärnlund
Communications Director, Eltel

Thank you, Adrian. Do we have anyone else calling in? No? All right. Actually, we have quite a few questions coming in online. We have Olli Eloranta from Danske Bank. Could you please elaborate what were the drivers behind the strong operating cash flow and working capital releases in Q1? Operating cash flow has typically been negative in the first quarter. Was there some positive one-off impacts?

Tarja Leikas
CFO, Eltel

No, we don't see any. Of course, there are major projects starting. They might have some impact. Overall, we are talking about the general profitability improvement and enhanced processes. Because networking capital is a reflect of the processes, it is the whole organization working towards the profitability improvement.

Would you like to add something?

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Yeah. If we sort of try to find one-offs, I think we can mention the Tallery project with advanced payment helping us a bit in the situation. Overall, I would say, like you, Tarja, that this is something that we talk a lot about in the organization, a lot of focus on this. I would claim that the understanding and awareness of the importance of this area have increased during the last two years. I think that's well done by the organization.

Tarja Leikas
CFO, Eltel

Yeah. I would say that when we have some projects kind of contributing, then we have some projects that are like. I would not pinpoint any of our operations.

Alexandra Kärnlund
Communications Director, Eltel

Okay. Great. Christoffer Jennel from Inderes has a few questions. Q1 2025 marked the seventh quarter in a row where Eltel improved its profitability on a year-on-year basis. What do you view as the biggest risk for Eltel to lose this momentum? Conversely, what could, in your view, accelerate this momentum even further going forward?

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Yeah. A very, very big portion of our business is based on frame agreement with the most well-known companies in communication and in power. If they feel that their business is becoming soft, they normally react by reducing the investment and activity level in things like what we are doing. Even though most part of our business is services and more ticket-oriented, the top of that, there is a portion that is more project-oriented. Those types of investment can be postponed if our customer feels that their business starts to become soft. Of course, if the hesitation in the market becomes even worse, I believe that we will also see the effect of that. Even if we are not sort of directly impacted by the turmoil in the world of today, I think we are not totally independent either.

We have to realize that when a customer becomes hesitant, the decision-makings take longer time. We haven't seen much of that yet. We hope that we're going to be able to continue keeping up the volume as we have today. One activity that we have to improve our resistance against this is, of course, the focus at public infra.

Alexandra Kärnlund
Communications Director, Eltel

Yeah. Along those lines and on the topic of risks, Christoffer further asks, over 90% of your revenue comes from the Nordic region, and the majority of your suppliers are based in Europe. Could you just comment on the impact that you have seen or expect on Eltel's operations due to current economic turmoil and escalating tariff trade barrier events? How has it affected the demand picture?

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

I think there is a bit longer time for our customers to take big investment decisions. That's one part of it. We also see that the price level of material, and there is in green energy production, if we try to describe it like that, but it's things like transformers, solar panels, that sort of equipment. The pricing of that can, of course, be impacted in the future if this continues. Also the supply chain, what is happening in the world, we are dependent on import of this sort of equipment, even though, as I said, most of it is from Europe and our business is to a very large extent in the Nordic. There is part of the material that is used in this type of project and also in our service activity that is imported, for example, from Asia or China. Yes.

Tarja Leikas
CFO, Eltel

At least.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

We missed to answer the second part of his first question, what can actually accelerate this.

Alexandra Kärnlund
Communications Director, Eltel

Yes, yes.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

I think a part of this is, of course, if we see that if there will be an increase in the green energy, I think that is something that would benefit us a lot. We also see if it is about electrification, about transport, or if it is production of green energy, like solar or wind, all of this can, of course, help us. That might accelerate the improvement.

Tarja Leikas
CFO, Eltel

I would also add that I think our customers and in our market, we are more and more aware of the meaning of the critical infrastructure in general.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Yeah, absolutely.

Alexandra Kärnlund
Communications Director, Eltel

Yeah, very much needed today. Another question from Christoffer. The fiber to the home business was a strong driver of revenue growth in Finland during 2024. Is the lower demand in Q1 just a bump in the overall growth trajectory or the beginning of a demand shift in this area?

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

We are prepared for that it is a reduction in general terms of the demand. The fiber rollout in Finland came a bit later than the rest of the Nordic. I would claim that the peak was most likely during 2024. We have decent volume this year, absolutely. It will be volume ahead of us. Just now, I would say that the penetration rate of fiber to the home in Finland has reached such a point that we have reason to believe that the peak of that rollout has been.

Alexandra Kärnlund
Communications Director, Eltel

Okay. A final question from Christoffer. The profitability and cash flow were particularly strong for a first quarter. Could you first elaborate on the very strong profitability improvement this quarter year-on-year, and then touch on the favorable working capital development, which combined with the profitability improvement significantly improved cash flow in the quarter year-on-year? As a follow-up, could we expect this kind of profitability and cash flows for a first quarter going forward?

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Yeah. Okay. The underlying things that is driving this is that operation excellence, commercial excellence in both business areas, in three out of our four segments have delivered during this quarter. We are still expecting Norway to catch up. I would say happy with this activity in Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Germany. We see EUR 2 million improved contribution from Finland, EUR 1 million from Sweden, and EUR 1 million from Denmark, Germany. That is done by operation excellence, commercial excellence. I think I'm happy for that. Yeah, we need to get Norway on track also.

Tarja Leikas
CFO, Eltel

Yeah. We have been working on winter scoping.

Alexandra Kärnlund
Communications Director, Eltel

Meaning?

Tarja Leikas
CFO, Eltel

We cannot escape the seasonality. We have the winter for seasons. It does not change. We have been working on it.

Alexandra Kärnlund
Communications Director, Eltel

Yeah. That marks the last question. All in all, good first quarter. We present our Q2 report, second quarter report on July 24th. Hopefully, you'll be able to join us then as well. Feel free, of course, to reach out to us meanwhile. If you have any further questions, all the material from this presentation, the webcast, and the presentation will be available on our website shortly. Thank you, Håkan. Thank you, Tarja.

Tarja Leikas
CFO, Eltel

Thank you so much.

Håkan Dahlström
CEO, Eltel

Thank you all.

Alexandra Kärnlund
Communications Director, Eltel

Thank you for watching.

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