Earnings Call: Q1 2020

Apr 24, 2020

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the presentation of Husqvarna Group's Q1 Report 2020. My name is Johan Anderson, responsible for Investor Relations, I will be the moderator here today. On the call, we have Henrik Andersson, our new President and CEO and Glenn Instone, our CFO. Henrik and Glenn will present the report and afterwards we will have a Q and A session and happy to answer any questions. So with that, I hand over to Henrik. Thank you, Johan, and a warm welcome to all of you who have joined in this morning. For those I haven't been able to meet yet, I'm Henrik Andersen and since the beginning of April, I'm the CEO of the Husqvarna Group. Although I might be only a few weeks into my new role, I'm not new to the group. I've had opportunity to contribute to the development of this company for the past 20 plus years in different roles and different functions. So to say the least, I'm very humbled and proud of getting the opportunity to lead this fantastic company into the future. And what a start it has been, We are experiencing one of the most challenging and disrupting health crisis in modern time. Later on, I will try to reflect a little bit on this Q1. So Q1 started in a good way with good listings with retailers, good preseason sales to our dealers and several successful new product introductions. So overall, a good start of the year. Then as you all know, it was negatively impacted by the outbreak of COVID-nineteen. Initially, those negative effects were related to supply chain disturbances, especially from Chinese and to an extent Italian suppliers. This turned out very much in line with what we communicated in early March, where we stated that the supply chain disturbances would affect top line by approximately 3 percentage points. But towards the end of the quarter, actually the very end of the quarter, the impact of lockdown measures accelerated and negatively affected our sales as our channel partners were forced to temporarily shut down. In total for the quarter, our net sales decreased by 4%, if we adjust for currency effects and the exited consumer brands business. In Gardena, we actually grew by 5%, but sales were down in the Husqvarna and Construction divisions. From a product perspective, we succeeded to grow in the important robotics, battery, bordering and smart garden categories, just to mention a few. Our operating income in the Q1 amounted to SEK1.424 billion, which was down SEK220,000,000 compared to last year, resulting in an 11.7 percent margin compared to SEK12.3 percent in the prior year. And of course, it was the combination of lower revenue and lower manufacturing volumes that put pressure on our profitability. But we were at least able to partially offset this by cost saving activities. One positive note as well in the Q1 was how we improved the direct operating cash flow. It improved by SEK1.7 billion to minus SEK132,000,000 in the quarter. So our financial position is strong and Glenn will further elaborate on that in the financial section here later. We also track our progress of our business strategy and one of the KPIs there is, of course, the share of robotics and battery sales as part of our group last 12 months total. And as we don't use decimals, the 15% that you see here on the slide is unchanged from what we communicated at Capital Market Day, but in reality, these product categories outperformed overall group sales growth in the Q1. If we then turn to the effects of the COVID-nineteen situation, this of course have and goes without saying has the highest attention in the group and we're doing everything we can to limit the spread, to protect our employees, to minimize any impact on our business and of course contribute to and support society where we can, for instance, by producing parts for medical equipment, which we do in many of our factories. Being a global employer and an integral part of the local communities where we operate, we have a responsibility to ensure the long term viability of our business and the jobs that we create. We have a strong financial position and a clear mitigating plan to help manage the situation, which ultimately will help us to adapt to this new but challenging reality. Part of our channel partners are temporarily closed due to the local government lockdown actions. This ultimately means it will have a fundamental negative impact for us in the Q2, but it is too early to speculate around its magnitude at this point given the overall uncertainty associated with this situation. Our focus is therefore more on what the things that we can control ourselves. We have to be very responsive to any changes in the demand. All of our manufacturing and warehouse sites have been and are in operation, although at lower volumes. And what's good with this, of course, is that we are then able to swiftly ramp up production if we will an increase in demand going forward. We have also introduced a number of additional cost reduction measures to at least partially offset the adverse impact from lower sales volumes. And a few examples here are that we have a couple of 1,000 of our employees in time reduction initiatives at this point with the aim to bring that up to 30% of our global the number of employees globally, so to speak. Group management has voluntarily reduced their salaries by 10% to lead by example. We have reduced external cost in all different kinds of areas and we have reduced and dialed back some of our strategic initiatives and our CapEx plans as well. Given how fluid the situation is, we are continuously adapting our cost base and flexing volumes up and down. This is something that we're used to since we are acting in a seasonal and weather dependent business, but it also makes it very difficult to quantify any specific actions at any given time since they actually are changing daily and weekly. And with that as a bit of an introduction, let me move on to the divisions with a few comments and then starting with the Husqvarna division. Net sales ended up being down 7% compared to last year And that's of course is when we adjust for the exit of consumer business and so on. Please also here recall that we are comparing to a strong quarter last year where we had an early sell in to the U. S. Retail channel that we also highlighted at that time. Of course, the COVID-nineteen situation impacted the demand at the end of the quarter as the government lockdown measures started to impact some countries and their respective channel partners that we have. On a good news or a positive note, robotics and battery performed better than average, whereas it was the wheeled products that experienced the largest decline here. Also on a positive note, I would say that the process of how we exit the legacy consumer brands business is according to plan and we do it in a very disciplined and structured way and that represented a 12% sales decline for the Husqvarna division in the Q1. Naturally, the effects of lower revenue and production volume contributed to a lower operating result, but we could at least partially offset this by increased efficiencies and cost savings. In total, the EBIT margin was 12.2% this year compared to 12.9% last year. If we then move on to the Gardena division, we can see here that we have an increase of sales and if we adjust for the consumer brands exit, we were up 5%. So good growth despite the COVID situation. The main reasons here I would say is that retailers tend to repeat behavior and what I mean with this is that they are very conscious of the prior year and given that 2019 was a strong year for Gardena and especially the ordering products, retailers to a larger degree decided to stock up on those products early on in the season here to make sure that they could meet any similar season to last year. Of course, COVID-nineteen also impacted Gardena negatively, particularly in some countries in Southern Europe, but the core markets and then especially the DACH region had very strong sales for Gardena here in the Q1. So all in all, a pretty strong quarter for Gardena with good leverage on the growth, resulting in an increased operating margin to 14.7% compared to 14.1% prior year. And then finally, the Construction division. As you know, construction is our most cyclical division, but also here we have a reasonable start, but that dramatically changed in the second half of March when the COVID situation actually also impacted the demand side here. Whenever there is uncertainty, spending on construction equipment tend to stop quickly. And that's something that we experienced here, of course. And on a positive note here though is that some of the markets actually have classified our construction products as essential, but in the majority of markets that's of course not the case. Net sales for the full quarter ended up flat or it decreased by 4% if we adjust for the changes in exchange rates. The operating income was down by 25%. And of course, this was partially depending on the lower sales and manufacturing volumes, but we also had here negative mix effects both in the geographical and in the product dimension. And if we stay with the product dimension a little bit, I would say that we some of our most profitable products were down and we had to sell off some non Husqvarna branded acquisition inventory at lower margins here in the Q1. On a positive note though, is that we have fully integrated our most recent acquisition of Powertrails that we acquired from Wacken Neusen. Production is up and running and these products are already now sold under the Husqvarna brand. So we have made significant progress there and been very fast to the market with those very important products to us. So with that, I hand over to you, Glenn, to run through the numbers. Thank you, Henrik, and welcome, everyone. So let's add some meat to the bones to what Henrik has described around the numbers in particular. So starting with the consolidated income statement. As said, net sales, as reported, minus SEK11 billion, adjusting for FX, then minus SEK14 billion. But then, of course, the exited business that we've talked about was just over SEK1.4 billion in the quarter, would mean an adjusted sales figure of minus SEK4 billion. On the exits, we guided full year of SEK 2,200,000,000. That is still the case. So SEK 1,400,000,000 in Q1, leaving roughly SEK 800,000,000 for the remainder of the year, and that will largely come in Q2. On the gross income, in absolute terms, we've moved from SEK4.1 billion down to SEK3.8 billion, but the margin has actually increased from SEK30.4 percent up to 31.2 percent. Main drivers in that, we do have a positive FX, roughly SEK 115,000,000 positive FX in the gross margin, representing approximately 90 basis points. The exits are relatively low margin business. Do give an upside, of course, on the gross margin. We continue with positive pricing activities. That's roughly SEK 25,000,000 2nd in the quarter. And as described by Henrik, we do have in some of the categories a move down on the mix. And of course, as we've been running with lower production levels during the Q1, that is also driving a negative impact on the gross margin. Strategic investments, relatively low in Q1, that affecting the gross margin is roughly SEK 20,000,000. Moving down to SG and A. More or less flat in absolute terms, SEK 2.45 billion moving down to SEK2.4 billion, however, increasing as a percentage of net sales. Main drivers, we actually have a negative FX hitting the SG and A translation effect by and large at SEK 70,000,000, representing about 0.6%. And of course, when we exit consumer brand business that comes with a lower cost to serve then we actually see a mix switch in the SG and A. So dropping out lower cost to serve, lower SG and A business and maintaining higher core SG and A business. So just to summarize there on the FX impact, we have a positive in the GP of 100 and 15,000,000 and negative of SEK 70,000,000 in the SG and A, so SEK 45,000,000 net positive effect in Q1. On the strategic initiatives in Q1, we've been running at a conscious lower rate for obvious reasons. Roughly SEK 30,000,000 is hitting SG and A and SEK 20,000,000 hitting the gross margin, so SEK 50,000,000 of SIs in Q1. So like for like operating income, excluding the items that we had in the prior year, is SEK 16.86 million moving down 14.24 percent, so 12.3 percent operating margin moving down to 11.7 percent as Henrik described. Moving down the income statement a little bit. As said, we have no items affecting comparability in the current year. Finance net is running some SEK50 1,000,000 lower than Q1 2019, and the main reason for that actually is a lower U. S. Dollar funding in effect, so a lower interest net. Tax rates at 24.6 versus 23.2 in the prior year, very much in line with our guidance and nothing unusual from what we see in Q1. Turning the page, direct operating cash flow, and we're particularly proud of this actually in terms of where we find ourselves in this current situation, that the cash flow has improved by SEK1.7 billion. We're more or less flat at the end of Q1 minuteus SEK130 1,000,000 versus minus SEK1.8 billion at the same point last year. The main drivers of that really was had a lower inventory build, again, a conscious effort that's representing roughly SEK 400,000,000. We've also had a lower offset on the payables of that inventory build of a similar magnitude, SEK 500,000,000. And the main driver behind the improvement is really the change in accounts receivable. It's actually SEK 2,000,000,000 lower on accounts receivable at the end of Q1 2020 versus 2019 March position. So I think we're in a strong position now going into Q2 and the COVID situation. Good. Turning the page. And actually, this chart is a little bit contradictory to what I've just described on the cash improvement and therefore, why do we not see it really in the capital efficiency. This is a disappointment for us. Let's call a spade a spade. And what we have seen now, of course, with the sales decline of 14% in total, of course, adjusted for exits, it's minus 4%. That is very difficult to offset on the working capital in a quarter. And when we saw that decline come quickly as we did towards the end of the quarter, and of course, it's difficult to adjust. So this metric is one which has a high attention. It is certainly trending in the wrong direction, one we are not proud about and one which we could quickly need to address during the remainder of 2020. I would say it is highly unlikely that we're going to hit our target of 25% during the course of 2020. This really will be a 2 year program to get us back to the 25% levels that we've talked about. Moving over to the balance sheet. I think a couple of items to call out. We'll start with the inventory. If you just look on that, it looks roughly like SEK 500,000,000 of improvement. Actually, there's a negative FX effect of roughly SEK 550,000,000 in the current year. So if we strip out the FX effect, then we actually see a SEK 1,100,000,000 improvement in inventory, which is 9%. So a continuation of the inventory improvement that we showed during the course of H2 of last year. Receivables, as described, down just over SEK 2,000,000,000 really as a result of the reduced net sales, but also a continued and aggressive management of our accounts receivable and past dues. Liquid funds, well, actually, you see there we're up CHF 1,000,000,000 and that is, again, I think a positive situation going into Q2. We have a higher cash and cash equivalent sitting in the company. The other one that probably stands out there is actually the reduction in the interest bearing liabilities. That actually is SEK1.2 billion and really is a result of lower net debt. We have lower short term loans, so again, a positive, and mainly U. S. Dollar, by the way. So the net debt of the group, we've actually moved from €13,500,000,000 down to SEK 11,600,000,000. The lion's share of that improvement coming from the cash flow improvement from the operations, representing some SEK 4,800,000,000. The cash flow from financing, slightly negative, roughly SEK 900,000,000. Currency effects on the net debt is around about SEK 300,000,000 negative. Of course, we paid a dividend during the course of 2019, which resulted in a SEK1.3 billion payout and then a pension liability is, give or take, SEK400 1,000,000. I would call out at this point on the cash position that since the month end and the quarter end, we've actually managed to secure some additional financing, SEK 1,500,000,000 by way of loan finance and SEK 1,500,000,000 by way of raising an additional bond. We also have our RCF facility, which remains undrawn, and that is SEK 5,000,000,000. So turning the page on the net debt EBITDA, not a great deal to say here, slightly up versus the same point in 2019, 2.1% versus 1.9%. This is a rolling figure. Nothing surprising, I would say, at the 2.1% that the net debt has been slightly higher on an average basis. And of course, slightly lower EBITDA given the Q1 development. But all in all, looking at the balance sheet and looking at the cash position and the debt position, I would say we're in a solid position going into Q2. And at that, I will pass back to Henrik to make some more forward leaning remarks on how we see this. Thank you, Glenn. Although the coronavirus outbreak is, of course, reshaping the global economy, we can at the same time not lose sight of our long term direction and priorities. And as you know, last year, we presented an updated business strategy building on a sharper focus on our end customer segments, robotics and battery solutions, strengthening our winning core and expanding our services and solutions offering. And all of this paired with a strong focus on sustainability. This strategy is the foundation for accelerating our long term growth and profitability. We will, of course, continuously to enhance it and refine it as we go along, but our key priorities remain the same and our ambition does not change. Moving then to sustainability, it has always been a vital and integral part of our business strategy. And early this year, we yet again made a strong commitment to this through the introduction of Sustainability 2025, which is our long term strategic approach to drive a sustainability transformation in the industry, utilizing our innovation capability. We are mainly focusing on 3 opportunities here. It's carbon, circular and people, each with very distinct aspirations on the difference we want to make. Our carbon target is recently approved as a science based target and it is in line with ambition to limit the global warming to 1.5 degrees. We are now also certified as a NASDAQ ESG transparency Partner, committing us to high transparency regarding to ESG disclosure. And I think in the end of the day, it's all about the results, the tangible results and I think we have a strong track record of demonstrating the business case for sustainability. Over the last 5 years, we have reduced our absolute CO2 emissions by 25%, while increasing sales by 17%, And this is largely driven by battery powered and robotics technologies. And speaking about innovation, I would say that our innovation capabilities is deeply ingrained in our DNA and is what really makes us stand out relative to our peers. We have leading solutions in our categories and I'm very, very proud of the lineup that we have for 2020. And just to mention a few, we have new robotic mowers, consumer versions for Husqvarna and the Galena brands, as well as the EPOS breakthrough technology with virtual boundaries that we introduced at the Capital Market Day, which is truly targeting the professional part of that of the robotic mowing segment. We also have the Aqua Bloom, which is a solar driven watering system for balconies and terraces. City gardening is a growing segment and with this aqua bloom, you don't need electricity, which is a major thing here. Another example is a new series of pro battery chainsaws for Arborist that truly sets a new performance standard in the industry. We're also accelerating our innovation efforts beyond our traditional products and into digital solution. One example amongst many here is the Automower Connect, where we are interacting with more and more customers, reminding them to buy parts and accessories and we give them lawn care advice and things like that. So all in all, I would say that we have a very good lineup of products for the season and that we will leverage on going forward here. So in closing, let me summarize the main messages before we open up for questions. The first quarters started out on a good note. We have good sell in. We are well positioned new products and we can also see the growth in robotics, battery products and in Watering Solutions. Of course, then in the latter part of the quarter, we were impacted by the COVID-nineteen situation. Initially, that was mostly supply chain related, but towards the very end of the quarter, it was also demand related that was ultimately caused by the accelerating lockdown actions that affected our channel partners and therefore also our sales. Our main priority above everything else is, of course, to make sure that our employees and stakeholders are safe and sound in this difficult time. We will continue to secure, of course, the business continuity here with a strong customer focus and not losing sight of also that we need to prepare for standing strong also after this challenging time. I would also say that we have a strong focus on protecting our cash flow through the swift decisive actions that we are taking and rest assured that we are well prepared and on top of this situation. It's ultimately a time for resilience, but at the same time, it's also about adapting to change. And this is something we as a company have successfully been practicing for more than 3 30 years. And with that, thank you for your time. We are now happy to answer any question that you might have. So I leave it back to you, Johan. Thank you very much, Henrik. And now we have come to the Q and A session. And before you ask the questions, so please state your name and company. So operator, we are ready to start the Q and A session, please. Thank Okay. And the first question is from the line of Johan Eliason from Kepler Cheuvreux. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Yes. Hi. This is Johan from Kepler Cheuvreux. I looked at your excellent cash flow performance during the quarter. I was just wondering when you mentioned sort of very high focus on collecting the receivables and payables management, have you used any factoring or similar methods to move your cash flow forward from the receivables? Hi, Johan. Hope you're well. The factoring that we're using during Q1 is on the same level as prior year. So we do factor in. It's really against the larger accounts in Europe, and that has continued, but at the same rates as 2019. So nothing unusual or out of the ordinary there. And now if you look into Q2, I mean a lot of the positive cash flow in the remainder of the year was obviously collecting those receivables. Have you done any sort of scenario analysis how the cash flow pattern will look like this year? How we could it turn out or anything that sort of gives us the understanding on how you see the cash flow pattern this year, which obviously will be different from previous years? I dream about cash flow forecast, Johan. We're doing these all the time actually. So it's very much part of what we're doing. We have a number of scenarios depending on how this COVID-nineteen demand situation plays out. So I think we're in a good shape. We are in a good shape. We're strong going into Q2. And depending on how sales are fluctuating then, of course, it will need different measures. But I think we're strong. And given that I mentioned, we'd also secured some additional financing just post Q1, that's also important to note. So I think very strong going in, but also we're mindful that we need to work with our channel partners, particularly on the accounts receivable and collecting that to make sure that we don't get any additional exposure. Yes. And then finally, can you give us some sort of development on retail sales now here in April with all the lockdowns? I think we had a practice fly out yesterday indicating fairly okay development. In Germany, I understand that DIY stores are allowed to open, I think, a week ago, but only for professional users. Any sort of indications how the sales have trailed so far in April would be very much appreciated? It's, of course, a very mixed picture. But I would say overall that we have been trading in line with what how we ended the Q1. And we can see that it's, of course, heavily affected by the lockdown measures. And if you look at Europe, for instance, the further south you go, the more of lockdown you will see and the further you go, the more open it is. So it's very much a situation market by market. And of course, what we all are hoping for is, of course, that more markets will open up going forward. But that's, of course, very, very difficult to predict. But what sort of numbers are you seeing? Is it minus 25%, 50%, 75% sort of average so far in April? I mean, it was a fairly steep decline towards the end of March. So I mean, it is, of course, significantly impacting us, but we refrain from giving an exact numbers there. Okay. Thank you very much and stay safe. And next question is from the line of Olof Sederholm from ABG Sundal Collier. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Hello, gentlemen. It's Olof with ABG. I hope you're all healthy and safe. A couple of questions. Given the good season so far, I mean, Saline has been good and you mentioned Gardena that retailers were happy to take on inventories. What would you say the status of inventories in the sales channel is today? Is it higher than normal or is it normal? We will say that overall, of course, it can differ a little bit customer by customer, market by market. But generally speaking, we would say that inventory with our channel partners are on a normal level at this point in time. Great. And then didn't want to comment on your run rate at the end of Q1 and going into Q2 now. But is it possible to give us a little bit more color on how much of your channel is open? I mean, is it when we talk about Germany, is it 50% open? Or could you give us any color on that? If you look at this globally, it's of course extremely mixed as you're aware of. And as I said before, I mean, if you look at Europe, you tend tendency of clearly much more closed in Europe in southern parts and more open in the north. But a rough number would be that about 1 out of 4 of our channel partners are affected to some extent. Okay. That's great. Lastly, M and A. Husqvarna, I mean, you've been doing most of the M and A, I guess, in the Construction division going back a few years. But what do you think about M and A opportunities here? And now you have a fairly strong balance sheet, and we hope it will stay strong over the next couple of quarters. Do you think this crisis could open up opportunities for you also in the other divisions? Would you what's your thinking on that? Thank you. I think first of all, I think it's important to state that construction operates in a very fragmented market. So it's much easier to find good M and A opportunities in that segment. So it's not necessarily a one to one comparison into the forest and garden industry, I would say, yes, to have that said, so to speak. But I think generally speaking, whenever you have a clear strategy and a clear vision as we have, you always look at both the organic opportunities and where you can complement that with any kind of M and A. And I believe that there are also those kinds of opportunities within the forest and garden space. But I would say it's too early to speculate on where and when and those things, but it should be part of any kind of plan that we have. And of course, if the right opportunity arise, then we will always look into it. Excellent. Thank you. Next question is from Karl Oscar Greene from Berenberg. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Hi, good morning. This is Karl from Berenberg. So I have a question a bit. Last year, we saw very strong Q1 with good order intake amongst dealers and retailers, followed then by a weaker Q2 as the sell through for the dealer channels were negatively affected by sort of the weaker in gardening season. So I mean, I appreciate that this is a kind of a different situation, but how should we think about the Q2 reorder volumes now as you have a significant impact of the lockdown? And how are you working sort of proactively as opposed to just reactively to deal with this situation to ensure not just healthy cash collection, but also ensuring that you have sufficient stock if the turnaround comes and gardening turns out to be sort of the past time activity of 2020? I think as you alluded to there, the situation is very complex. Last year, it was more or less the weather factor that played in. And this year, we have at this point no idea of what that weather impact will be. But of course, we have done the COVID and the lockdown second quarter will look like. Having that said, I think that's why it's extremely important that we really manage the things that we can control. And I think one of the good things here is that all our factories and distribution centers are up and running and even though at the lower pace. And because whenever you have manufacturing running, it's much, much easier to quickly ramp up if you see an uptick in demand. And I think the other piece that is very important here is that we are very agile to seize the opportunity that is that do arise because I mean all markets are not the same. There are opportunities, there are pockets and of course our job is to make sure that we fully exploit those. And part of that, I mean, this quickly fluctuating up and down dealing with the situation is something that we are used to given that we are in a seasonal and weather dependent business. But at the same time, I think we need to have a sober view when it comes to the Q2 here that this situation with COVID is extreme and the lockdown measures are extreme and it will have an impact on our top line. And even though we have been extremely decisive when it comes to cost avoidance measures, we will not fully be able to compensate for that shortfall on the top line. And in terms of if you look at the widening space, to my understanding that 10% to 15% goes through sort of the online channels, are you able to offset or mitigate some of the effects by turning to higher online sales? We can see an uptick in online sales, of course, also in our business and particularly so far in the Gardena division. But absolutely, the uptick is there. Okay. And just lastly, you mentioned that some strategic investments will not necessarily be prioritized at this moment. So are we pushing out launch of strategic news such as the robotic wireless robot lawnmower? And are you able to save a lot of cost on pushing out these strategic initiatives in R and D? And if so, to what extent does this affect the longer term EBIT margin potential of 10%? Are we seeing a postponement of this now as you in the outer years, if you were to push out strategic new launches? No, I think it's always delicate thing how you manage your short term versus your long term. And what we are saying is that we are not stopping the strategic investments. We are dialing some of them back. But of course, one of the highly prioritized areas that we are not touching is, of course, robotics, as you mentioned. There we go full steam ahead. Okay. Thank you very much. Next question is from the line of Christer Meinor, DNB Markets. Please go ahead. Hello. Firstly, on inventories. Did you have an under absorption effect in Q1? If so, how much roughly? If we look at how much inventory we took out in the quarter, roughly SEK 1,100,000,000 We've been saying it's 10% to 15% type levels on the fixed cost. The under absorption into the gross margin was of the magnitude SEK 130,000,000. SEK 130,000,000 negative under absorption effect in Q1? SEK130 negative effect, yes, in Q1. Perfect. Great. Then you also mentioned the exit sales on Consumer Brands. How much was that in Q2? I missed that for you. It was 1 point just above 1.4 percent, Krister, in Q1, and we still guided the 2.2 percent for the full year. So we expect the majority of the remainder, I. E. 800,000,000 SEK will come in Q2. Thanks. The cost savings and the pullback on SEK this year, how much of that will actually be structural cost savings that you can carry over for 2021 and 2022? Yes. We talked certainly what we started last year that we had some carryover. We had a little bit of a carryover of the 2019 launch plan to the end of 2018 launch that was executed in 2019. In Q4 last year, we talked about the SEK150 1,000,000 savings, which again, the majority would come this year. That is still the case. I think what's extremely tricky now is as we take down the volumes and we become reactive to the demand, that cost savings versus cost avoidance, we need to be careful with. So really, we're now into cost avoidance activities. We will take down the SIs. As Henrik said, it's not reducing them, it's dialing them back at a lower pace than what we had. But it's hard to really guide on specific additional cost savings, Christa. I think it's more cost avoidance is what we're driving right now. Sure. Let me see it's not corona, sorry. If you can say anything about the season, obviously, is weak now in Q2 because of this shutdown in April. But do you think that the season can be prolonged on the back of the stay at home effects going to Q3? I mean, it's of course, Christophe, very hard to speculate on since it's largely going to be weather dependent. We have had years where the season has been extended all the way through September. We have had years when the season has almost been over at the end of May. And that's a little bit the thrilling part of the Q2 in our business that it is largely weather dependent. So it's very hard. I think we instead for us, instead of speculating about the weather, I think we have to make sure that we really manage the second quarter exceptionally well. So we seize any opportunity that is out also can sell some of these products in the second half of the year. But I think we need to have realistic expectations on it and also realize that it is largely weather dependent whether there's a prolonged season or not. And then on Garena, how much of their business is e commerce roughly? To my knowledge, that's something that we have never disclosed before. But I mean, it's not a large share. It is a share, but it is a smaller share and it is growing. And finally on EPOS, given corona, can you talk about the rollout of the EPOS system that we see here in the 2020 test phase? And if there's been any feedback this far? And also if you can say anything about the indication of demand and how you decided to sell the products going forward? Actually, it's a lot of positives surrounding EPOS in general. So we have decided to do a limited launch and more of a piloting thing here this year. And we had a certain volume that we set up that this is what we were trying to do, but that volume was signed up for very, very quickly. So there's clearly a demand out there for the technology and the feedback so far is very positive. And going forward here, we will actually start a little bit more experiment I would say experimenting with how we can sell these products and go to market, where we probably even will try some robot as a service concepts and things like that to really make sure that we explore all exploit all the opportunities in the market going forward. Great. Thanks, Filipe. Next question is from Clara Jonsson from SEB. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Hi, Henrik, Glenn and Johan, and thanks for taking my questions. I have a few. First off, you said that all of your factories are up and running globally, but some at lower capacity. Could you say something about capacity utilization right now in comparison to where it's usually at? At? And does it differ between newer divisions? I mean, it's obviously lower than it was pre the demand decline here, but it is very different between the factory product segment and market. And on top of that, it is extremely fluid, meaning that it's changing all the time. So that's why with a few of these questions, we today refrain from giving a specific number because it is literally changing day by day, week by week. Okay. Is it moving in the right direction? The question is what is the right direction. I think that demand is what we need to see that demand comes back and make sure that we quickly can respond to that increase in demand. So we have, of course, brought down the production levels to make sure that we are now just building inventory. All right. Thank you. I have another question then on online sales. And you mentioned, of course, that this is growing quite fast right now. How well can online compensate for loss of sales in physical stores? I mean, I understand that this differs between divisions, but if we isolate, for example, Keryana? I think the unfortunate thing is that there is a limited possibility and we can also see that in other industries that most industries cannot fully compensate that. And that's also the case when it comes to our products. But I would say generally speaking, there's probably a better opportunity and we have less of a gap with Gardena related products than there is, for instance, when it comes to some of the larger and more expensive equipment. Yes. All right. Thank you for that. And then I have a question on the consumer brand sales out and the Husqvarna addition. So if I did my numbers right, you removed some 12% of sales year on year by phasing out consumer brands in Q1. How much did that impact the margin? Or maybe you can just say what the margin of the phasing out volume was? I think what we've said on that one, Clara, and again, we'll just be fairly broad, is in 2019, we phased out negative margin business. In 2020, we're phasing out low margin business. So there's a slight absolute EBIT hit, but from a margin perspective, it's an improvement. But I don't think we should guide more than that. Okay. Thank you. And then I have a last question, if I may, and that's for Henrik. And it's another long term question on the Construction division. So you just started as the CEO in came from this division. How much synergies do you see for this division with the rest of the group? I think there are synergies on different levels and some of them are material and others may be less important. But I would say generally speaking that within historically, we had 2 cycle technology, engine technology on the very important power cutters that is very similar to chainsaws and where we also make those products in the chainsaw factory. So there is an immediate synergy. We see similar kind of synergies when it comes to battery systems and battery development, connectivity and those kinds of things. And those synergies are very tangible and very real. Then of course, you have other kind of synergies like construction a construction division on its own would like not be able to afford having sales companies in 40 countries, whereas now we can share the back office and just by applying a few sales people and some support people, you actually have a sales company you can get going. So but they are more generic synergies, so to speak. So there are clearly synergies even though ultimately that we are in 2 very different businesses. 1 is in lawn and garden and 1 is in construction with different customers. So in the customer dimension and the go to market dimension, the synergies are less. All right. So do you think that there could come a time where this division is spun off? I know that, that question has come up many times and we have not changed our mind in that sense. We think that there's a benefit having them in the same company and one business is a bit more weather dependent, one is a bit more cyclical, but hopefully by having a larger construction division, we could balance some of those things out. All right. Thank you very much for taking my question. Thank you. Next question is from Kari Winter from Handelsbanken. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Yes. Thank you. A follow-up on your previous comment on channel partners being affected. You said that globally, it's roughly 25%. But if you would look more specifically on North America, do you have a rough ballpark number for that region? Not that we feel like we should disclose today because again, it's so fluid. There are so many changes all the time. So there's just a risk that we give you the wrong impression here. I wouldn't say that we today see that there's a huge difference between the 2 Europe and the U. S. In this regard though. Okay. And is there any difference between retail and distributors? Because as far as I have seen, the most hardware stores are still open for business even in the hardest hit states. So is there any difference between retail and distributors in the U. S? I think that in general that the dealer business might be a little bit worse off than the big retailers, even though they're both affected. And just to inject a third dimension into particularly important for the construction division is where we also have a large business into rental, where a lot of the large rental accounts closed down daily depots, which of course then had a big impact on construction. So and this is a little bit a challenge describing the situation that it is so mixed, so fragmented and that's of course okay and we need to deal with that. But it's also changing all the time. And that's why it's hard to give numbers because the number might be wrong already tomorrow. I understand. What about can you share anything about countries and regions that have been less affected by restrictions like Sweden, for example? You have any anecdotes to share about demand and sales volumes in Sweden? I mean, I think generally speaking, what we can be saying is that in the markets where the markets are open, we are doing well. And that's a bit back to the original comment that we have a good position. We have good listings with retailers. We have good preseason orders into the dealer network and we have new products. So generally speaking, where the markets are open, we are doing well. Unfortunately, there are a little bit too many markets that are not open. Fair enough. And then finally, the is the typical how is the typical seasonal pattern in the Q2? Is it very back end loaded? Or is it, I mean, if you're lucky and you have a good early season, then you get reorders in the month of June. So how are sales typically distributed during Q2? And of course, now we know that April volumes have been low. But well, I guess the question is that how are sales typically But if we look at a large number of years historically, you can say that typically the 1st 2 months of the quarter are relatively larger than the 3rd month of the quarter. That's typically what it looks like. The question is, if the old rules will apply in a COVID situation. If a market is in lockdown and then open, does that then change this pattern or not? I think that is the very difficult question to answer today. And I think we cannot even speculate in that today. The only thing we can do is to try to execute and take any demand that is out there. Sure. And then finally, in 5th March, you came out with an estimate that COVID-nineteen would have a 3% hit on your Q1 sales, and that was pretty much due to the sourcing challenges from China. And then now we saw that the 4th quarter sales went the 1st quarter sales went down by 4% organically or underlying. So is that should we interpret that 1 percentage point difference as the sort of the indicator of what kind of impact COVID-nineteen had on your late quarter sales? Or which other moving parts should we take into account? Yes, I don't think it is unfortunately, I don't think it is that straightforward. I think the supply related issues, they were largely in line with the 3%. But other than that, there are a lot of moving things. A bad guy, of course, was the larger than normal quarter into retail in the U. S. That went one way. We had several segments here with very nice growth. We talked about robotics, we talked about battery products, we talked about watering and things like that. We have Gardena that has gone strong. But then also we had the COVID impact. So it's not as easy to say 3 plus 1 is 4. So the impact was more than that 1 percentage point, of course, from COVID. Okay. All right. Fair enough. Thanks. And we do have a follow-up from Karl Oscar Greene from Berenberg. Please go ahead. Your line is now open. Karl Oskar from Berenberg. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Sorry. Could you please give us a split between the retailers and dealers in the U. S. Or in general for the group? Yes. More so we can get an understanding of typically who are directly affected by government and forced closures and social distancing, who can operate that normal? I think if we start to this really we're operating with 2 divisions That's how that That's how that business has historically been for us. And of course, as we take a position to exit certain segments, then obviously, 1 channel, either dealer channel, will become a larger share of our business. And then the construction business is 100%, in that respect, professional selling towards dealers, distributors and the rental channel and direct. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. And there are no further questions registered. Exactly. So thank you very much for that final question, Koloskar. And thank you very much for dialing in today and joining this call. And then we will, if not before, talk to each other in July. So thank you very much for participating today. Thank you.