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Earnings Call: Q4 2024

Feb 7, 2025

Operator

Welcome to the QleanAir Q4 2024 report presentation. For the first part of the presentation, participants will be in listen-only mode. During the questions-and-answers session, participants are able to ask questions by dialing pound key five on their telephone keypad. Now, I will hand the conference over to speakers CEO Sebastian Lindström and CFO Henrik Resmark.

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

Thank you. Welcome to the QleanAir Investor presentation for Q4 2024. My name is Sebastian Lindström, I'm the CEO of QleanAir, and joining me in today's call is Henrik Resmark, our CFO at QleanAir. As said, Henrik and I will go through the presentation and then open up for Q&A at the end. Starting off with the numbers for Q4, we closed another challenging quarter. The absence of the Curexa contract and the low point of Japanese renewals to finance companies affected both top and bottom line. Positive in the quarter was that we started to ship the first of the newly launched products and that our cash flow improved both over last year and in a significant way over the previous quarter. We delivered SEK 104 million in sales, which was 16% behind last year.

The main reason for the decline was the absence of the Curexa project of over SEK 30 million and lower sales in EMEA and APAC in general. Our recurring revenues remained stable at SEK 77 million, amounting to SEK 299 million on a rolling 12-month basis by the end of the year. The slight decline of 2% on a full-year basis was related to the cancellation of school orders post-COVID in Germany earlier this year. Our gross margin and EBIT were hurt, of course due to the lower sales, the absence of the Curexa contract, and the low point of renewal base of contracts to finance companies in Japan. Our adjusted EBIT landed on -SEK 2.9 million versus SEK 7.8 million last year. Adjustments made of SEK 2.4 million were related to reductions and reorganizations done at the head office in Q4 in response to the weaker sales.

The cash flow was strong at SEK 17 million versus SEK 14 million last year and a substantial improvement sequentially over Q3. Summing up the quarter, we have work to do. We'll keep our focus on the three objectives: long-term profitable growth, cost control, sales efficiency, and customer focus. To improve the understanding of our dependency on cyclical effects of historical renewals to finance companies, I added a picture available as well on page six in our quarterly report. The contracts we sell to finance companies, the orange part of the bars in the chart, are typically renewed on a 36-month basis, i.e., three years. This base of renewals we can do in any given year depends, of course, on the number of contracts we sold or renewed three years ago.

In the graph, you can clearly see that in Q4 2021, three years ago, we had a real low point in sales to finance companies, and that's why we talk about Q4 2024 being a low point in renewal base. On top of that, over the past three years, the Japanese exchange rate to the Swedish krona has worsened about 10%, and the sales to finance companies are mainly done in Japan. In this graph, you can also see the absence of the Curexa project under product sales, so the light green bars at the top of the chart, exceptionally low in Q4 2024. On such short notice as in the Curexa case, we have, in this kind of project business, no way of compensating in the short term. The material's been purchased, the resource has been booked.

Looking at the quarter from a regional perspective, in APAC, Q4 sales came in at SEK 44 million, 13% below last year for the quarter. Japan was clearly affected by the low point of the renewal base. Japan continues their strong growth in air cleaners, which grew 55% in the quarter and 44% for the year in local currency. Japan is now tied with Sweden as our second-largest market within air cleaners. In EMEA, we achieved SEK 61 million in sales, which was a decline of 14% versus last year. We continue to suffer the weaker economic environment with longer sales cycles. On the positive side, we see the members of the sales team in Sweden and Germany getting up to speed.

The day before yesterday, I came back from this year's workshops in Germany, and I was impressed to see that one of the new members of the sales teams made the German top seller club for 2024. I'm also happy to see, in EMEA in particular, how we've been able to address larger clients both within the European food and beverage sector and the German defense sector with installations at multiple locations and a large number of units installed in short time. When it comes to America, sales of SEK 3 million versus SEK 8 million last year was a disappointment, but fully attributed to the absence of the Curexa project of over SEK 30 million. This affected our top and bottom line in the region in a major way. We filed a lawsuit towards Curexa in December, seeking coverage on our damages.

On the positive side in the U.S., we saw a pickup again in the winning of new contracts after a few weak quarters. We're not only seeing further demands and winning contracts for additional cleanrooms with existing clients, but gained a key new client in the quarter in the Northeast , exceeding SEK 10 million. We're continuing our pursuit of partnership with companies with complementary products addressing the same customer base to strengthen our offer and allow us to win more volume. When it comes to our focus, we stick to our three prioritized objectives: cost control, sales efficiency, and customer focus. On the cost side, given the weaker market conditions, we've further reduced the central team. In Q4, we completed our supply chain consolidation and expect to improve our service cost in 2025. We started our transition to our new service partner in Germany, and it looks very promising.

In 2024, we had significant cost increases due to the low performance of our previous partner. When it comes to improving sales efficiency, we've reorganized and simplified sales management in EMEA. Our strengthening and replacement of resales resources in both Germany and Sweden are coming along fine and picking up speed. The new products started to ship in the quarter, and we have orders in all the key markets in Europe. Over to strategic customer focus. We continue our systematic approach to product development. Over the past three weeks, I have, together with a product manager, visited and held workshops with all sales and service teams across the regions. The discussions and inputs have been very engaged, and the regional teams are really feeling part of our product development process. The result of these interactions over the past two years is clear.

The recently launched products are spot on the critical needs of our clients. Going into 2025, we're further sharpening our focus within air cleaners in Europe and APAC on the industrial sector, and it's been very well received by the sales teams. A few words on this focus for 2025. As I said, we're sharpening that focus. In Europe and APAC, we will focus entirely on air cleaners and cabin solutions. Within cabins, we stay with a broad approach. We're a market leader. It's a mature market, and we're already strong in three out of four product areas, as you see on the right-hand side on the top: the cabins, outdoor lounges, and smoking rooms. During 2024, we significantly strengthened our offer towards the smoking room segment with the FS 70 SRE, Smoking Room Edition, allowing us to access and provide a very strong solution for this market area.

When it comes to cabins, it's all about maximizing the reach, so the segment focus is wide. We're already in a lot of different segments depending on the profile of each market, and we'll continue to be so. When it comes to air cleaners, which we see as an emerging market with strong growth potential, we will put our focus clearly on the industrial segment. The industrial segment is where we can fully leverage the versatility of our products, our ability to recirculate filtrated air, to create negative or positive pressure in a room, work with clean zones, and, of course, a combination of these four. We've clearly seen in 2024 that once we focus, we're able to improve our sales efficiency by addressing similar clients within an industry as well as being able to expand solutions to the same client in multiple locations.

In 2024, we've been able to expand our business with a leading European food and beverage client to five countries and many more locations with around 100 units installed. In Austria and Germany, we've been able to expand to more than six locations and over 50 units installed with a key company in the defense industry. With this more focused approach on air cleaners, we will get even closer to the clients and their pains related to indoor air quality, and we can be faster in meeting their challenges with bespoke solutions. We expect that this more in-depth understanding will help us in addressing more critical must-have application areas and thereby moving our margins up over time. With that, I hand it over to Henrik to take you through the financial update.

Henrik Resmark
CFO, QleanAir

Thanks. In QleanAir Group, both EMEA and APAC are strong contributors to sales, representing more than 90% of total sales. EMEA accounts for 54% of QleanAir Group revenues. Germany is not reaching our targets, but other European markets are contributing to a higher extent. APAC accounted for 43% of total revenues. There is a clear demand for our solutions, and we're gaining more and more traction with air cleaners through focused work on chosen customer segments. Japan had lower revenues in 2024, partly because of the weak JPY and partly because of seasonality of our renewal contracts. United States represents 3% of the total revenues. We are hurt by the canceled Curexa contract in the quarter, and we continue to experience longer sales cycles in general.

We had a negative growth of 16% in the fourth quarter, reached a sales of SEK 104 million versus SEK 124 million a year ago.

The recurring revenues account for 74% of the total revenues and amount to SEK 77 million. It's a relatively stable quarter for the revenue type recurring revenues. The gross margin was 66%, down from 67%, and the adjusted operating profit was - SEK 3 million in the fourth quarter versus SEK 10 million a year ago. In the fourth quarter, the operating margin was - 3%, adjusted. Last year, it was 7.8%. This slide illustrates the relation between the book values of units in QleanAir balance sheet and the revenue stemming from such units, including service, the recurring revenues. The recurring revenues was SEK 299 million 2024. The recurring revenues are a solid base of revenues that, to a larger extent, are predictable in the future. The book value is relatively low, SEK 48 million, compared to the recurring revenues, and this is a contributor to our margins.

To break these recurring revenues down per unit on an average, the revenue is approximately SEK 64,000, with a book value of approximately SEK 10,000. We experience a high profitability on renting out the units over time. In 2024, we saw a decline in the installed base. School orders of air cleaners in Germany were not prolonged, resulting in fewer installed units. However, going forward, we see a growth in air cleaners in both EMEA and APAC. We have three different revenue streams: the mix of recurring revenues, sale to finance companies, and product sale to end customers. The nature of our business is that we have a recurring revenue as a foundation of the total revenues. On top, we have a product sale, and that is customers that do not want to have a rental setup.

We offer them to buy the units, and that is to a large part in the U.S. As the Curexa contract was canceled, the product sales were low in the fourth quarter. We also have revenues stemming from sale to finance companies. That is long-term rental contracts that are sold to finance companies, and that is primarily in Japan, declined because of the Japanese yen and the seasonality in 2024. The cash flow improved in the fourth quarter, even though the operating profit was lower. Favorable changes in working capital compensated in the quarter. We continue to amortize according to plan every quarter, and the net debt equity ratio was 0.8. In the quarter, we received a waiver from Swedbank. Mid-January 2025, we changed bank from Swedbank to Danske Bank. Going forward, QleanAir will continue to amortize each quarter. Handing over to Sebastian for a summary.

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

Thank you, Henrik. To close off the session in front of the Q&A, what we do at QleanAir is important. We dedicate our work to improve the health of people, the quality of products, and the performance of processes. We do so throughout our three product categories: cabin solutions, air cleaners, and cleanrooms. Looking at the amount of clean air that is delivered through our solutions, we estimate that we clean 7.3 billion cubic meters of indoor air by end of Q4, and it matters. As air pollution is a key challenge for human health, people die prematurely from the exposure to polluted air. We spend an important part of our lives in indoor environments, and indoor air can often be more polluted than outdoor air. Let me reiterate, a number of measures have been initiated that we expect to yield results.

We stick to our plan with a very systematic approach to both operational and strategic development. We have our three clear priorities: customer focus, sales efficiency, and cost control. We continue our focused product development that just brought six new products to the market. We now sharpen our focus within air cleaners on the industrial segments to move faster and take a position in that emerging market. With that, I'd like to open up for questions.

Operator

If you wish to ask a question, please dial pound key five on your telephone keypad to enter the queue. If you wish to withdraw your question, please dial pound key six on your telephone keypad. The next question comes from Anders Roslund from Pareto Securities. Please go ahead.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

Yes, good morning.

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

Morning.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

I would like to start off with a question about the EBIT or the losses in Q4. Could you shed some light on the moving parts here? I assume that the losses are mainly due to the cleanroom business. There are a couple. Is that correct?

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

It is a very important piece of it, right? Of course, when you look at our profitability, a low point in renewal to finance companies also plays a major part, right? As we renew contracts the second or third time, that is a very profitable piece of our business. Clearly, as I mentioned, the absence of the Curexa contract, which had been planned for the fourth quarter, I mean, there is no way we can compensate from that. Our installing team and so forth are people within our own organization, so it is not like a third-party contractor that we can just let go. You are right in your analysis. Did you want to complement, Henrik?

Henrik Resmark
CFO, QleanAir

No, it's a combination of the low sales in Japan and the U.S., yeah.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

Yeah, and you also mentioned the final delivery of a Swedish cleanroom. Is that part also?

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

No, in our Q3 earnings call, I was more reflecting on the full year, right? That we. Okay, so that has no impact in. No, it was a challenging year in 2024, but we also, during that year, dealt with both the cleanrooms dating back from 2021 and 2022, and also the post-COVID-related purchases, right? Both those items we dealt with in Q3, actually.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

Okay, let's look into 2025 instead. Given that you had the low point in Japan in renewable contracts, I assume that every quarter here coming in 2025 will be better than the fourth quarter, and that you is it a sort of change during the year, or will it start off very strongly in Q1 or gradually increase, or how should we look about the Japanese recovery here?

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

If you start off with sort of the base that we carry forward quarter to quarter, if you look on page six and you.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

Yeah, exactly.

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

You take a hint back in 2021 and 2022, you sort of see what base at least we will carry forward into the subsequent quarters of 2025. Of course, it also depends on the exchange rate to the Japanese yen, right?

Because that hit us a little double in 2024 as the exchange rate worsened about 10% from the time three years up until now. For sure, you can see that Q4 in 2021, which reflects on the Q4 in 2024, was really a low point, right? It gradually improves. Of course, everything is a combination. We have a great benefit of our recurring revenues and our ability to renew contracts, and we're really good at that, and it's a very stable rate of renewal, so to say. It is also, of course, dependent on our ability to sell new units in every quarter. I think Japan has really made the move into the small and medium businesses into the HoReCa sector with cabins. I think it looks quite good. I came back from Japan about a week ago, and it was a very engaged team.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

Yeah, because that's the key issue here that the renewal really takes place. I mean, it could also be that you have a churn that people, clients are leaving and not renew their contracts.

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

No, so in Japan, we see no difference in the rate of renewal. It's been very, very stable. And I think if you were to back out, if we look at the overall growth in cabins or decline, actually, in cabins last year, and you back out the Japanese yen and you back out the fact that we had a much lower renewal base in 2024, just to give a feeling, in 2023, we had an average of JPY 205 million per quarter in renewal to finance companies, and that went to JPY 170 million in average in 2024.

If you back the yen and the fact that we had that drop in base, we're still in a decline, but we're more talking 5%. We view the cabin solution market as a continued stable market. I think the recently launched introductions, two into the cabin solution area, the SL 12, which is an outdoor smoking lounge, and the FS 70 SRE, which dramatically improves the performance of smoking rooms, which is sort of a competitive market to the cabin solution market. I think we're really moving our game forward.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

When it comes to the cabin solutions in Germany, where you've changed your service provider, is that in place? When does it reflect in your rental rates that you have higher cost levels now?

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

The higher cost levels we experienced already in 2024 with our previous supplier, right?

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

Yeah, exactly.

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

We have during the year negotiated, we're in the transition phase right now. Right now, we're shifting from the old partner to the new partner, and that should be completed by Q1. That's good, or we're convinced it will improve our service costs versus 2024. We had to.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

Okay, so it's.

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

Because of the performance of the previous, we had to go in and sort of support with other partners to solve. I mean, for us, service is key with our clients. When it doesn't work, we'll just have to all hands on deck to fix it, and that costed some money in 2024.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

You will address that, but that the new partner will contribute to lower costs in 2025 when it comes to service. It's not that you have to, when you renew contracts, that you raise rental costs to cover for higher costs or.

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

No, we view the increased costs as related to 2024, and we're coming back to a normalized situation with the new partner.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

Excellent. Okay, coming back then to the cleanroom business, you have taken orders of roughly SEK 20 million. You took four orders in the second half of last year. When will those deliveries start to kick in?

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

I think we wrote quite clearly in the press release, but we have a very strong signed contracted backlog for 2025. I have to be careful. Sometimes we're not allowed to use the name. The Northeast, the thing we did in Baltimore is a 2025 installation. I actually think all those three are for 2025.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

Yeah, I just wonder if they start to be delivered already in the first quarter, or is it sort of backend loaded towards the second half?

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

No, it's not backend loaded. It's really the first three quarters are very, we have a strong backlog in.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

Okay. Outside those four large orders or three large orders you presented of roughly SEK 20 million, do you have some base order or just smaller orders coming in?

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

On the backlog side from the U.S., I think we're well now over maybe SEK 35 million, SEK 30 million-SEK 35 million in signed contracted backlog for delivery in 2025. In addition to that, we have a running business of service contracts on the, I mean, we have over 100 cleanrooms at hand in the U.S.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

Yeah. Now you have taken down costs related, first of all, to Curexa, but also in general terms, how is it with the cost level in the U.S. now?

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

No, with the cleanroom business, which is a project-oriented business, it requires a certain structure.

I think that we have that structure in the U.S. We were able to cut it back a little bit given the mid-view or the fall of 2024, and we did so. I think otherwise we are at that level that we need to be. In a company like ours with our margins, we cannot sort of address the issue that we have just by cutting cost. Our focus is to drive revenue, right, and drive growth. I think, as I alluded to both in Q3 and Q4, we're initiating and have started the discussions to look more at other actors being complementary to our offer, targeting and addressing the same client.

As an example, if you take robotics that are coming strong in the pharmacy area in the U.S., one challenge for those robotics companies, and these are really big companies, is the room for the robotic solutions and cleanrooms. Just as an example, that is our possible partnerships where we could play a role together with these large companies to improve the reach of these solutions.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

Interesting. Finally, if we go to air cleaners, it seems that the industrial part is growing strongly while the old COVID-related sales to Germany are sort of fading out. How much of those COVID-related installations is left, or is it sort of out of the book now, and we can start to see growth again coming from the more industrial-related part of the business?

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

I think, and I just come back from the kickoff and workshops with all the region. If there's one thing that impresses me of the teams is that if we look back during COVID, right, we really had a bump in air cleaner sales reaching about SEK 100 million. Since then, these, as you said, the HEPA filtration has really gone back. We've taken our cancellations on the school side, which was quite a big deal. The sales teams and service team have managed to convert that into industrial air cleaner sales. It's really impressive. We see a lot of traction in the industrial area. Of course, the economic environment in Germany and overall in Europe is against us, but we're seeing, as we focus on the industrial sector, that we can be in more critical application areas, which means they're more resilient to this economic downturn.

I would say that we've dealt with most of the COVID-related sales that we had back in 2021. It's way before my time, right?

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

Yeah, because if I see it, the absolute level of air cleaner sales, at least from my estimates, it came out slightly better than expected. There's no seasonal effect that everybody's sort of, you sail a lot in the fourth quarter. I assume this could be a relatively good base looking into the fourth quarter sales in air cleaners could be a good base for looking into 2025.

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

That's our view as well.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

Excellent. The strong growth in Japan, you said it now at part with Sweden when it comes to sales level, it has been growing quite strongly. Is that mixed with the office segment, which is, I call it more COVID-related, or is it purely industrial?

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

It's gradually stronger and stronger on the industry. We're actually, as we now move into 2025, the Japanese team are shifting more resources into industrial air cleaner to meet the demand, right? During 2024, we still had, but not COVID-related, but rather.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

No, I know.

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

More the influenza, the allergies, and so forth. We still had some office cross-selling from our cabin side into the offices, more to combat allergies and influenza virus spreading. How strong that's going to be forward, it's really hard to say. Of course, we make a difference also in the office environment where we see the growth potential and the leverage of our strength in our products is towards the industrial segment.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

Good. That seems very interesting. The six new products launched in the air cleaner segment, is that covering the whole global sales? You sell those six new products also in Japan, Germany, Sweden, et cetera. You also mentioned France here. How is that looking? I mean, it's from very low levels, I assume.

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

Yeah. France, we view France as our third pillar in Europe and maybe our third pillar globally. We look at our ability to grow in Germany over the last five to seven years. We really see France as the next one. The types of industries compared to Germany and everything sort of pointing in the right direction. When it comes to investments, as we move into 2025, we've really agreed with our board that our focus, as we improve our numbers, will be to continue our investment in France.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

Excellent.

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

France also, of course, growth in 2024, sorry.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

Coming back, you usually don't give any outlook for 2025, but there seems to be at least a positive trend in all three business units.

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

Agreed, I have to say.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

Yeah. Okay. I think that was all questions for me.

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

Thank yo u, Anders.

Anders Roslund
Financial Analyst Industrials, Pareto Securities

Thanks.

Operator

As a reminder, if you wish to ask a question, please dial pound key five on your telephone keypad.

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

Do we have anything?

Henrik Resmark
CFO, QleanAir

Nothing through mail or on the web, so.

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

Okay.

Henrik Resmark
CFO, QleanAir

No written answers.

Sebastian Lindström
CEO, QleanAir

Okay. If there are no further questions, I'd like to reiterate our communicated financial targets remain delivering 7%-13% organic growth annually and building up our EBIT margin in the range of 15%-20%. Taking our company to new levels is a journey. We have a very structured approach, and we stick to our plan, and we're convinced that this is the right way and that it will yield financial results and allow us to meet our communicated financial objectives in the mid to long term. Thank you for your participation and interest in QleanAir, and I wish you a great continuation of the day. Thank you.

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