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Earnings Call: Q1 2021

May 12, 2021

Operator

Go ahead with your meeting.

Michael Lindskog
CEO, Rugvista Group

Thank you. I am glad and excited to be here today. Since this is our first quarterly earnings call, the idea is that we'll go through two overall chapters, with chapter one being a quick introduction, our business updates, and then we'll go through the financial updates in chapter two. If we move to the first slide, please, or second slide in the presentation. Just to kick everything off, I'd like to just do a quick summary. Q1 was a period where we were really fortunate with very strong financials, and we made significant progress toward our vision of really becoming the center of gravity. Especially want to highlight, of course, our top-line growth, where we saw accelerated growth across all segments, and DACH really serving DACH regions of Germany, Austria, Switzerland, really serving as the engine.

However, we do have to keep in mind that the comparables for Q1 2020 were relatively weak, and then that rest of year comparables will be a bit tougher. We also managed to achieve exceptional margins, to be fair, where we had positive category mix effects. We did improve on many operational efficiency topics that we've been working on, in addition to the fact that just with the top-line increase, we do get scale economics. All of those factors in combination is what drove the exceptional margin profile. The main sort of challenge, so to speak, that we're facing and have honestly been facing is that we want to build our stock levels up, but haven't been fully successful in that due to the number one, of course, the strong demand, but the ongoing supply chain challenges in India especially, is hampering those efforts.

The issue, of course, with India is really twofold, where first, of course, we have the COVID effect, where they've been forced to not run the facilities at full capacity. Second has actually been some impact from the sort of this global container crunch, where getting container transfers has been difficult. Despite these challenges, we continue to deliver very satisfied customers among those who actually buy from us. That is, of course, very nice and that's, of course, our number one priority, and continuously seeing the great feedback that we get is really exciting. As I mentioned, the strategic initiatives, DACH, of course, being the growth engine, and we're seeing continued progress also on our Amazon strategy. If we move on to the next chapter, and really with the business update, we'll go to page four then.

Before we kind of kick off everything, since this is our first call, I really want to introduce everybody to what our long-term vision and what we're trying to achieve is really about. We've defined our vision to really be the center of gravity for the European rug industry. What that means is that at some point in the future, when we want to be in a position where when a customer thinks about, "Okay, I need to buy a new rug," top of mind should be, "Okay, I need to go to Rugvista and see what they have available." That's the kind of position we want to be when it comes to the consumer-facing portion of it. The vision also, of course, has an element of the other side of the thing, so on the supply side.

There, we want to be in a position where every single supplier essentially wants to work with us. Regardless of whether it's a rug producer or it's a carrier, they need to feel, "Okay Rugvista is an account that I really want to win because these guys know what they're doing. They're a market leader, a category leader," all of those things. That's really what this vision is all about. Then we've, of course, defined a set of initiatives that we're working on in order to realize that vision. The number one, of course, being that we have seen and we do continue to see an opportunity to penetrate our core markets further. What we're talking about here is really the big EU markets like Germany, like France, et cetera.

That's where we see the next level of growth and where we, to a certain degree, have been historically a bit underrepresented. The second initiative that we're focusing a lot on is what I'm calling here, showcase our assortment. Really what this is about is the fact that a vast majority of what we offer and sell are articles that we've actually produced or designed and then produced together with our producers, and are articles that you can only find from us. We need to make that aspect more clear to those who come and visit our shops. In terms of just how we present the assortment and making sure that the web shop has all of the usability features that you would expect from a modern web shop.

I think the journey good to great is all about we've done things quite well historically, now we want to take it to the next level. Instead of trying to be the best Rugvista e-tailer, we want to be one of the best or the best e-commerce player in Europe. That means comparing ourselves to players like Zalando, Amazon, et cetera, and really doing everything at that level. Finally, we do see that there is an opportunity to grow our marketplace business, and that is specifically focused right now on Amazon, where we really see an opportunity to grow and leverage that quite loyal user base that Amazon has in the bigger markets like Germany and the U.K.

If you're a Prime customer, and you have a tendency, and that we see numbers on this, that most or a vast majority of all your online purchasing is done via Amazon. In order to capture that demand, of course, we need to be on Amazon. That's kind of the high-level introduction to what we're trying to do here over the next few years. Of course, as an underlying theme is continue to ensure that we have high customer satisfaction ratings and use the data and technology to drive and fuel the growth. If we move to the next page, please. We've identified here a set of KPIs to keep track of how we're doing on our progress in terms of becoming the center of gravity. Of course, like I said here, the first thing we focus on is customer satisfaction.

We have two different measures, the Trustpilot ratings as well as Net Promoter Score, which we started measuring early last year, or during the spring of last year. Both of those values are, of course, outstanding. An NPS of 67, which we achieved here during Q1, is comparable to brands like Apple and Netflix, et cetera, and is quite outstanding. The second KPI is about increasing market penetration, and a good proxy for that is, of course, number of orders. We continue, we more than doubled our order count versus last quarter. Then, of course, we want to reach more customers. The third KPI is about attracting new customers, and our customer acquisition count also more than doubled versus last quarter.

We move to the next page, we want to show a little bit of a deep dive in terms of where we acquire customers from a regional perspective. If we start from the top left here, we have the DACH region, so the German-speaking markets. We had 182% year-on-year growth during the period, which is tremendous and really highlights the fact that this is where we're growing the fastest and to be honest, where we also have the most potential, because there are just more people there. Similar story when it comes to Southern Europe, which includes markets such as Italy, France, Portugal, and Spain, and also very populous markets where we see a lot of upside potential.

With that being said, let me move on to the financial updates, and let's start then on page eight, where we focus a bit on the top-line side of things, so the net revenue. As I mentioned, we managed to achieve a tremendous growth, where we year-on-year in total grew our net revenue by 85%. If excluding the divested operations, we actually grew by 92% period-over-period. All of our reporting segments grew quite well. B2B a bit below the other two segments, of course, and that's very much driven by the fact that a big portion of our B2B customers are interior designers and offline retail stores, actually. That's a segment that has not gone so well during the COVID period. As I mentioned, on the right-hand side there, the DACH region really being the growth engine, and that's very promising.

Moving on to page nine, focusing a bit more on our margin profile. We had really an exceptional development from both the gross margin and the adjusted EBIT. We almost doubled our gross profit, increased the gross margin by about four percentage points. The driver being the category mix effect in addition to actually having a lower discount rate this year versus last period. Then in the middle, just breaking down the gross profit development across the segments. A similar story, tremendous growth in terms of absolute gross profit increase, as well as the gross margin improving three to four percentage points across the segments. Then finally, the adjusted EBIT. We managed to reach right at SEK 50 million, representing a 24.2% EBIT margin.

Really the combination of the improved gross margin as well as the operational efficiency gains and scale economics or scale effects from the top-line growth is what contributed to those numbers. Just on the next page, on page 10, we have a bit of a deep dive also on the line and cost line items. Here again, we see the goods for resale, where we improved by 4.4 percentage points with the category mix and the discount rate reduction being the primary drivers. The other external expenses actually increased period on period, but that's driven by the IPO costs of about SEK 10 million. Personnel expenses is one area where we benefited from scale effects. Then finally also the amortization and depreciation line item is also an area where scale effects came into effect. This line item, of course, is mostly the usage rights amortization.

The facilities that we sit in and warehouse facilities, et cetera. Finally, that gives us the adjusted EBITA of 24.2, which is slightly above eight percentage points period on period increase. The EBIT even with the SEK 10 million extra cost due to the IPO, the EBIT margin unadjusted, of course, then increased by three and a half percentage points. Moving on to page 11. A bit of a deep dive here into the topic of inventory. As you can see, we've decreased actually our inventory on hand period on period by SEK 37 million. The right-hand side is really the KPI that we keep track of internally, and that's the inventory as a share of the rolling 12 months net revenue. There we've gone from about 29% last year to about 13.5% this year.

That is actually a bit below the ideal level we would like to be at, which is around about 20% plus minus a couple of percentage points. That's where we stand on the inventory. Of course, as I mentioned, the challenges especially I would argue that we've had with our Indian producers is what's driving that. We've done a lot of work to try to secure inventory moving forward, but there is still some uncertainty in this regards. Moving to page 12, taking a look at the cash generation, which is still very robust. Of course, with the strong operational performance, that's a natural effect when you have the type of margin profile that we do. We, of course, more than doubled our cash flow from our operating activities period on period.

We have more than SEK 100 million above what we had last year. We're right now at SEK 165 million cash on hand. That's despite the fact that we actually amortized our long-term debt of SEK 88 million end of last year. Moving forward to page 13. We have the net financial indebtedness where we've year-on-year actually moved from a position where we had net debt, false net debt or we were indebted, whereas now we're not, which is the short story on this one. Moving to page 14, before sort of summarizing and leaving the floor open to questions, I do want to remind also everybody and share our mid to long-term financial targets which we've set together with the board of directors, of course.

Our mid and long-term financial target is to, number one, to grow organically our net revenues by about 20% per year. We target to maintain an EBIT margin of at least 15%. Finally, we will continue to invest resources into growth and developing the business and organization. In addition to that, we do aim to pay out up to 50% of net profits to shareholders. Concluding on page 15. As I mentioned, we had a very strong first quarter performance in terms of the financials. The growth trajectory has been accelerating, but it was versus a weak comparable. The significantly improved margin profile was driven by the category mix effects, the efficiency gains, and scale economics. We do have a challenge when it comes to stock levels, which are below targets and something that we're working hard on in terms of trying to address.

Of course, we are a bit left to sort of follow the COVID situation. Unfortunately, that's a bit out of our sphere of influence. Finally, we do have a cautiously optimistic outlook for the rest of the year. The rest of year comparables are tougher, especially with Q4 2020, having been partly influenced, we would argue, by the COVID travel restrictions that were in place across essentially all of Europe. However, we have seen that our initial Q2 numbers are promising, where we're delivering or seeing a growth well in line with our long-term targets. The fact that the offline to online migration has really accelerated throughout this COVID phase is something we actually expect will be beneficial in the long term, even after COVID has passed. With that being said, I'd like to open up the floor to any potential questions.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, it's a zero one on your telephone keypad to register. Once again, if you would like to register, it's zero one on your telephone keypad to register for a question. Our first question comes from the line of Fredrik Ivarsson from ABG. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Fredrik Ivarsson
Analyst, ABG

Thank you very much. Good morning, Mike.

Michael Lindskog
CEO, Rugvista Group

Hello.

Fredrik Ivarsson
Analyst, ABG

A few questions from my side. Firstly, you stated in the report that Q2 grew in line with the financial targets, and I just want to clarify, is that including or excluding the divested entity?

Michael Lindskog
CEO, Rugvista Group

That is including, peer group performance. Yes, Group.

Fredrik Ivarsson
Analyst, ABG

Okay. organically you grew even more?

Michael Lindskog
CEO, Rugvista Group

Yes.

Fredrik Ivarsson
Analyst, ABG

Excellent. A follow-up on that. I think in Q2, obviously comps are getting more demanding. You grew 50% in Q2 last year. I would assume that there were some significant differences between the months. I think it would be helpful if you could help us understand the comparables throughout the quarter, if that's possible.

Michael Lindskog
CEO, Rugvista Group

Yeah. I think what we saw last year was that, of course, March, the sort of initial phase of COVID happened. Things were quite crazy. People were buying toilet paper and paper in general, wherever they saw it, and et cetera. We, of course, did not sell those items. We saw more of the sort of spike in the end of April and to a certain degree, also in May. Whereas the results in June were not outstanding. They were more to a relatively normal level. Moving forward, there were also instances in Q3 where societies opened up, and then everybody kind of left their homes and did other things and shopping in general. We had throughout Q2 and Q3, I would argue, relatively up and down demand, actually. We'll see what happens rest of the year.

Fredrik Ivarsson
Analyst, ABG

Comp is getting easier through the second half of the quarter. That's good. On the gross margin, that was up slightly above 4%, as you said, and you mentioned mix and lower campaign levels as key drivers for that. Is it fair to assume that they affected sort of equally, or did any of those two factors stand out?

Michael Lindskog
CEO, Rugvista Group

Slight overweight on one of them. With the category mix being the more important driver versus the discount rate.

Fredrik Ivarsson
Analyst, ABG

Okay, great. One quick last one more for modeling purposes, actually. You mentioned that excluding ArtGlassVista grew 92%. Can you help us out with the organic figure as well? Adjusted for FX too?

Michael Lindskog
CEO, Rugvista Group

Yeah. Right now we don't do the fully organic, let's call it that. I can say we had a little bit of negative impact actually of currency effects during Q1, but not a significant number. That's why we did not include it this period.

Fredrik Ivarsson
Analyst, ABG

Got it. That's all my questions. Thanks a lot.

Michael Lindskog
CEO, Rugvista Group

No worries.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Niklas Ekman from Carnegie. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Niklas Ekman
Analyst, Carnegie

Thank you. Yes, a couple of questions, if I may. Firstly, on the inventory, as you said, the 29% of sales one year ago, now 13%. How quickly do you think you can restore this to 20%? Also, India, you mentioned the problems there. Can you remind us the approximate percentage of sourcing that you do from India normally?

Michael Lindskog
CEO, Rugvista Group

Absolutely. In terms of starting with the first question, how quickly? It depends a bit in terms of how quickly can we get to 20. There's multiple factors affecting that. Number one being, of course, how fast we sell. In terms of the other portion, we've worked very hard on secure, putting in additional purchase orders. We have deliveries coming in. There's always a bit of uncertainty from India, especially where the container crisis is impacting lead times. We're not 100% sure, to be fair, when we'll be fully healthy. It is one of our top priorities for sure. In terms of the relative split between the production sources, round about a third of what we sell is from India.

Niklas Ekman
Analyst, Carnegie

Okay, perfect. Have you come to the conclusion that you've missed a material number of orders due to the low inventory, or is that a minimal effect this quarter?

Michael Lindskog
CEO, Rugvista Group

We definitely saw that during especially end of last year, not to the same degree, I would argue here during Q1, but to some degree, yes. There's always the risk of not having your best sellers on stock and people deciding not to buy. We've partly seen a bit of buying something else, especially during Q1, I would argue. Yeah, it's hard to quantify always, but some effect in terms of lost sales has definitely happened.

Niklas Ekman
Analyst, Carnegie

Can I ask on the EBIT margin as well? You are now obviously well above your target of at least 15%. Do you think, considering where you are now, is this a conservative target? Are you lagging significantly on OpEx or investments? How should we see this in terms of this scale and mix effect you've seen here? Do you think that they're sustainable, or do you think it's temporary and likely to reverse and bring you closer to that at least 15% margin target?

Michael Lindskog
CEO, Rugvista Group

We don't have any sort of major upsizing of our, let's say, fixed cost base in the plants currently. We, of course, have a bit of recruiting ongoing, et cetera. It's not major elements that's going to affect the overall picture. More than 15%, of course, gives a bit of leeway what that means. To a certain degree, when we set that target, we wanted to communicate, and then that's also how we steer the business, that the focus is to ensure that we grow our market share and that we really own the rug category online. That the second priority is maintaining very healthy margins. There's always a trade-off between growth and margin. Typically, we would lean towards ensuring that we grow versus not.

Niklas Ekman
Analyst, Carnegie

Thank you. Just a final question and one that may be difficult to answer, but I'm just curious if you're keeping track of your closest competitors. Are they seeing growth rates anywhere near what you're seeing today? Are you clearly outperforming or is it just too difficult to track at the moment?

Michael Lindskog
CEO, Rugvista Group

It is a bit difficult to track, of course. We have a sense that, of course, the offline to online migration is beneficial for many and that its online focus and that's of course natural. We are still quite comfortable as long as that continues, that we will grab more than our fair share of that online demand.

Niklas Ekman
Analyst, Carnegie

Okay. Fair enough. Thanks for taking my question.

Michael Lindskog
CEO, Rugvista Group

My pleasure.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Carl Deijenberg from Carnegie. Please go ahead.

Carl Deijenberg
Analyst, Carnegie

Thank you very much. Good morning, Mike. A few questions from my side as well, starting with the DACH region here. That's really sort of the main growth driver here in the quarter and also on the customer acquisition growth. Could you elaborate a bit sort of what you have done here, some tangible initiatives here during Q1 that has been sort of the supporting drivers here? Has that been a combination on marketing or if you could sort of give some more flavor on that would be really helpful.

Michael Lindskog
CEO, Rugvista Group

Yeah. Essentially it's been about implementing a bit more sophisticated marketing steering tools for how we spend our marketing. Second, continuously evaluating together with the team, okay, where do we see opportunities for additional growth? Where do we see that demand is not there, continuously moving that money from across the different marketing channels as well as across different markets. That's really the main driver in terms of how we've been able to maintain a quite healthy margin profile at this level of growth.

Carl Deijenberg
Analyst, Carnegie

Okay, perfect. My second question is on the average order value here. It's down slightly or sequentially and also slightly down from 2020 levels. Could you explain a bit there? Is that a combination of sort of, I guess that's a mix effect question, right? With more sales in the design category, which has slightly lower average order values, I would assume. Is that correct?

Michael Lindskog
CEO, Rugvista Group

That is correct.

Carl Deijenberg
Analyst, Carnegie

Okay. It's fair to maybe assume that the average order values should come down a bit then also later in 2021 from 2020 levels, I guess, and focus more on the design categories.

Michael Lindskog
CEO, Rugvista Group

Not necessarily. It depends a bit. The Q1 last year was kind of the last quarter where we had a higher share of the traditional, whereas, the rest of the year, especially during the second half, actually, the category mix was relatively stable. We're not seeing any sort of any trends right now, at least in terms of that changing. We expect that it will be relatively stable. Of course, we're a bit understocked, as I mentioned, or relatively understocked on the Indian assortment, which is kind of in terms of our assortment in mid-price point articles. We're kind of losing out a bit on that area. That's a little bit what we'll have to see how that evolves with the margin or with the inventory levels moving up, hopefully moving forward.

Carl Deijenberg
Analyst, Carnegie

Okay, perfect. My final question is on the marketing spend here. Roughly 30% of revenues here in Q1, and we've been talking about this before, that maybe that you see long-term potential in sort of optimizing this as well, maybe moving a bit from Google Ads into other sort of marketing channels that are maybe more sort of conversion efficient. How has that development been in Q1 and has that been in focus here in Q1 or is that something we should expect more focus on later on?

Michael Lindskog
CEO, Rugvista Group

We've started, but it's definitely more of a long-term project versus a right now impact. That is something we're working on sort of in the, let's call it in the background. In terms of significantly affecting our current marketing mix, we're not there yet.

Carl Deijenberg
Analyst, Carnegie

Okay, perfect. That was everything for me. Thank you very much.

Michael Lindskog
CEO, Rugvista Group

No worries.

Operator

Thank you. If there are any more questions, it is zero one on your telephone keypad to register.

Michael Lindskog
CEO, Rugvista Group

If there's nothing right now, I also got a question from the chat or via email, where somebody's asking whether our low inventory levels will hamper growth in the coming quarters. Whether we'll be able to meet and deliver to the strong demand that you seem to have? That is the question. Number one priority right now and has been for quite a few months, has been to ensure that we buy and get additional stock. We're seeing some improvements, of course, in that area, but it is a combination of both what we can get in as well as how much we sell. We've improved significantly over the last few months in terms of certain areas of the assortment and still challenges in other areas.

It's a bit uncertain, but it's an area where we're definitely working hard to ensure that we're fully in stock when the peak season starts again in the late fall.

Operator

Okay. There are currently no more audio questions registered, so I hand back to our speakers.

Michael Lindskog
CEO, Rugvista Group

Excellent. If there aren't any other questions, I would like to thank and appreciate the attention that we've been getting and hope to see you next time. Have a great day.