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Earnings Call: Q4 2017

Feb 5, 2018

Ann-Sofie Nordh
VP and Head of Investor Relations, Sandvik

Good morning, and welcome to the presentation of Sandvik's fourth quarter results. I'm Ann-Sofie Nordh, head of investor relations, and I will guide you through the Q&A later on. First of all, of course, as per norm, Björn Rosengren and Tomas Eliasson will run you through the presentation. Fire away.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Thank you, Ann-Sofie, and good morning also from me. I thought I'd start to talk a little bit about 2017 and the development that we've had. I think the year has characterized by strong demand. I think we've seen growth in all three of our business areas, as well as in all the segments where we have been operating. It's also a year where we have done a lot of activities. If we start up with the decentralization, we continue the work, and during the year, we've been focusing on the group, but also to put SMT in the right structure. We have continued our work and the progress when it comes to the product portfolio consolidation, and we are getting closer to the end of that project.

We have also managed to end the supply chain optimization program, where we have, during the last two years, closed 23 operating production units. We have de-leveraged our balance sheet, and we are today on a gearing of 33%. The net working capital has continued to decrease, and we reached a record low 22%. Also this year, we have a record low capital investments of SEK 3.6 billion, which is below 4%. That has resulted in an improvement of the operating result that has grown 33% during the year, reaching above 16%. We're very happy with that. The good year ended with an excellent quarter. We continued to see strong growth in the market, 15%, as well as the revenues went up 15%. We have seen strong development in all segments as well as in all regions. Very strong underlying market.

The earnings continued to improve, and we managed to reach a profit level of 17% during the quarter. The balance sheet continued to strengthen, and with a low working capital, and the good earnings, of course, managed to reach SEK 5 billion in cash flow, and for the full year operative SEK 15 billion. In addition to that is, of course, the additional almost SEK 55 billion extra from the sales of SPS to be added on that. The proposal from the board is a dividend of SEK 3.5 per share. This is quite an extraordinary picture, and we've been trying to look back if we've seen such a strong underlying market back in time. As you can see here, the underlying market is strong in all segments as well as in all regions. You can see here that Asia is up 12%.

Hidden in those numbers is China, which is up 35%, which is extraordinary. North America, up 17% is strong. Of course, Europe, which is the majority of our business, 40% represented in this area, is up 16%. That's strong. As you can see, all the segments and all the regions are pointing upwards. That means that the order take reached SEK 24.1 billion, which is up 15%. Now we're also seeing the revenues, who's been trailing before, also coming up to a good level, SEK 23.9 billion, which is also 15%. There's a strong underlying there. Also the profit has improved 24% compared to last year. If you exclude the currency as well as the positive metal prices, it's actually 36% or over 18% EBIT margin. Strong development there.

When we look at more closely to our business areas, as normal, a Machining Solutions is sticking out. Probably the strongest number in the report here is that we see underlying growth of 12%, which also is a number where we've been really trying to look backwards to see if we have such a strong number historically. The leverage is excellent. It's 64%, reaching an EBIT level of 24.5, and that's including a negative currency. Cleaning from that, it's actually 25.3, these are really good numbers. Also they managed to put record low net working capital, which of course has generated a very strong cash flow from the business area. Also Mining and Rock Technology is showing strength. We see a growth of 10%, and here we see the strongest growth actually in drilling and hauling part of the business.

We also see that revenues has come up, and as you all know, that they've been working hard during the year to get the deliveries out to customers all around the world. There, an up-ramping in some of the business with over 100% is quite a challenge for the business. I think we can give them credit for managing doing that. Going forward, I'm sure you realize that it will be tougher comparison. Maybe you all remember that the first quarter we were over SEK 10 billion in orders, that will of course be challenging, even though we continue to see a strong demand in the market. The operating profit improved by 60%, reaching 16.2%. Of course, that is both including a big negative on currency as well as Varel, which is underperforming compared to the rest of the business.

Still challenging SMT, but in line with our expectations. Here we are very happy to see that we are continuing to getting orders, the underlying demand is strong. In these numbers, we see the big umbilical orders of SEK 600 million, which is part of this, giving 38% growth. If you take out that big order, it's still 16% up, we're very happy. There's a lot of activities going on in SMT, and I think 2018 will be an important year to prove that the business is moving the right direction. You all know that our ambition is to get back to 10% profit margin in two years. We should be able to see during this year an improvement of that business. The consolidation project, which I mentioned in the beginning, continues, and we managed during the quarter to close the Mining Systems deal.

Also the Process Systems, a couple of days ago, we managed to close the welding wire, which was sold to ESAB. We have now to complete the project, we hope to be that in the second quarter, where we hope to close the Hyperion deal. We signed an agreement also during the quarter from KKR to take over that business. Hopefully we can start working more to growing the company instead of selling off the pieces. Tomas, please give us a little bit more in-depth detail of the numbers.

Tomas Eliasson
EVP and CFO, Sandvik

Yes. Thank you, Björn. Okay. Let's move to the financial summary, some highlights here. Top line, you heard, if you look at the upper right-hand side here, 15% on orders and 15% on revenues. Take off negative currency and divestments, 10% on each. If we go down the P&L, 24% up in EBIT or operating profit. Margin from 15%-17%. We'll venture into that in just a few seconds. Cash flow, also very, very strong. Very strong cash conversion, in the quarter and for the full year, which has helped reduce the financial net debt. The net working capital, 22%, very, very strong, very good, almost too good in some areas, but we'll talk a little bit more about that later. Return on capital employed in the quarter, 22.4%, this is excluding the capital gain, from the Process Systems divestments.

This is purely operational, 22% in the quarter and 19% for the full year. At the bottom, you see the earnings per share, everything included, but excluding the capital gain from Process Systems, it's 8.01, 82% up compared to a year ago. A very strong development there. Of course, if earnings goes up and the finance net is flat or down, you get an over-absorption in the finance net, which further drives these numbers up. Okay, let's go to the bridge. The most interesting part of the bridge is the price-volume-productivity column, the first column there. You can see that the accretion, or I should say the drop-through was 39% and the accretion was three percentage units. If you take 15% a year ago, add the organic accretion, you get 18%. 18% was, let's say, the organic EBIT margin in the quarter.

We had negative effects from currency and from metal prices. We move on to net working capital, performing very, very well. You can see on the right-hand side the three business areas plus other operations. Everybody's doing very, very fine. SMS, SMRT on historically low levels. Also SMT, during the fourth quarter, had a really nice pickup. This was mainly due to a big customer advance received in the quarter. We don't know what happens in 2018. We're not going to get an advance every month, but this is how the year ended, a strong cash flow. The free operating cash flow is SEK 5 billion, for the quarter, SEK 15 billion for the full year. You can see on the right-hand side that the main driver of cash flow is the earnings, of course, as always.

Working capital contributed as well, and CapEx a little bit up and down, but basically on the same level. A very good quarter from a cash flow point of view. The most beautiful slide of them all. This is fantastic. It makes me almost emotional when I look at it. The net debt has come down from SEK 40 billion down to SEK 16 billion now at the end of the year, whereof SEK 5 billion is the pension debt, SEK 11 billion is the net financial debt. The gearing is 33%, as Björn mentioned here. This is very strong and it gives us a lot of maneuverability, freedom to choose in terms of investments and M&A, et cetera. Also during the quarter, as I'm sure you remember, we had an upgrade on the credit rating from BBB to BBB+ with a stable outlook.

That's very important for us as a recognition to the work that we've done with the balance sheet and the cash flow. A new slide, the tax rate. Tax rate is quite interesting in the fourth quarter. If you look at the reported tax rate in the quarter and the full year tax rate, it looks strange. This is not what we normally have. 16.7% in the quarter and 22.3% for the full year. There are two effects here that explains why we report these tax rates. The first one is the capital gain on the Process Systems divestment. The calculated tax on that divestment or on the capital gain is 11%, which is a bit below the normal 27% that we have in the business. Of course that has an impact.

If you add that back, it's 22% for the quarter and 25.5% for the full year. Secondly, we have the U.S. tax reform, and as that came through on December 22nd, we have made a reevaluation of our tax assets and tax liabilities in the U.S. For us it was a positive of close to SEK 200 million. It meant that the underlying tax rate, taking that off, is 27.3% in the quarter and 27 flattish for the full year, which is the underlying tax rate that we have. Whether this tax reform is positive or negative is of course completely dependent on whether you're in a net tax asset or a net tax liability position in the U.S. We are in a net tax liability position in the U.S. That's why it's positive for us. That's just now, fourth quarter, a revaluation.

At the bottom, you see the guidance for the tax rate. The guidance we've had for some time is 26%-28%. Going forward, a lower corporate tax rate in the U.S. is of course positive for us. It will have a positive impact for us for the tax rate going forward, it's not so big that we will change the guidance. It doesn't take us out of the range. We will still be in the range, maybe a little bit lower within the range. We'll keep the guidance, at least for now, let's see what happens. Some outlook. The outlook numbers for the fourth quarter and the full year. Just need to find my slide here. Here it is. The Q4 underlying currency effect was minus SEK 403 million. We guided minus SEK 415.

The total currency effect, including all revaluations and hedges and what have you, is SEK -375. Pretty much in line with the guidance. Metal price, we guided 0. We had SEK +101 in the quarter. For the first quarter, up until December 31st, we had a pretty positive look on the currency effect. Let's say we didn't believe in so much of an effect. Now with the development of the US dollar, using the exchange rates by January 31st, we believe in SEK -250. Metal prices in the quarter, SEK +100. For the full year, CapEx, which came in at SEK 3.6 billion for 2017, will be around SEK 4 billion for 2018. A little bit more investments. Net financial items, which not that long ago was SEK 2 billion a year, is now expected to be SEK 1 billion for 2018. Came in on SEK 1.1 billion in 2017.

The tax rate, which I just mentioned on the previous slide, will continue to be in the range of 26%-28%, but maybe a little bit lower, but not out of the range. I mean, not lower than 26%, but lower in the range. Finally, the dividend proposal. Here you see the reported and the adjusted earnings per share and the dividend for the three years, 2015, 2016, and 2017, and you see the payout ratios on the right-hand side. The real payout ratio, the reported payout ratio has been quite high over the last two years, 140% and 63%. With this dividend proposal, it's 33%. It comes down a little bit, of course, because of the capital gain from the Process Systems divestment. If you look at adjusted, it was 57% two years ago, 63% last year, and with this proposal, it's 44%.

With that, I'll hand over to you again, Björn.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Thank you, Tomas. Very good. Moving forward. You all know that our strategy is based on stability, profitability, and then growth. I think during the two years now, we managed to stabilize the group as well as build up a strong profit level. The focus going forward is, of course, growth. When we talk about growth, we talk about organic growth, we talk growth in new technologies, but also through mergers and acquisitions. We are very active within this area. At the same time, we should know that we are on a top of a cycle, and prices are very expensive, and we are not prepared to overprice any of the acquisitions, even though we know they're pretty expensive. We do expect that we will close a couple of acquisitions during the year. SMT is going to be important.

I think it's important that we see clear improvements during the year for the business, and that we start moving towards our target of 10% operating profit. As I mentioned, 2017 was very much ramping up, making sure that we get the equipment out. During 2018, it will be a lot of focus on efficiency improvements and continuous improvements for the different product areas and business units to make sure that we get more profitable and more efficient. I mentioned that growth is important, and we all know that the most healthy way of growing is organically. That is developing new great products, put them into the market, and to take market share. I think we have a good tradition in Sandvik, focusing on new technologies and new products. During the year, we launched a lot of new exciting products.

Here we just mentioned a couple of them. Perfomax is a new drill from Seco Tools. It is a more efficient tool, specialized for titanium cutting. This is a new great seller for the product area. We're also seeing from Mining and Rock Technology, the new series of Ranger with a new cabin, new intelligence, good working radius, and improved fuel efficiency of the engines. A great product which we have big hopes for going forward. We are also taking the direction of moving into titanium when it comes to the powder. We are a market leader when it comes to other parts of powder for additive manufacturing, and we are now moving into the titanium place. Then on the right side here, you see besides two miners, I think.

Tomas Eliasson
EVP and CFO, Sandvik

Yeah.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Is it two miners, or is it Tomas?

Tomas Eliasson
EVP and CFO, Sandvik

It's really two experienced miners.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Okay, there's Tomas and me, and actually we visited one of a greenfield operation in Canada. It's called Goldcorp from Goldcorp. It's actually the new gold mine. What's so special with this mine is that this will be the first totally electrified mine. All the equipment are operating with battery and electric equipment. The drill you see on the picture is actually the first totally electric drill from Sandvik or from any suppliers. It's the DD422iE. I stands for intelligent, and E stands for electric. In this mine, they have two of these operating, and there are more to come. Extremely exciting development where Sandvik is really in the forefront. With that exciting picture, I'm planning to end this presentation and be open for question and answers.

Ann-Sofie Nordh
VP and Head of Investor Relations, Sandvik

Thank you, Björn. Good way to finish, I have to say. Do we have any questions in the room? Yes, we do. We'll start here before we move into the conference call. I know we have quite a few questions lined up. Yes, please. I kindly ask you to limit yourself to two questions when we get there. Thank you.

Olof Larshammar
Analyst, DNB Markets

Thank you. Olof Larshammar from DNB Markets. Two questions from my side. Firstly, you're talking about growth in 2018, both organically and via M&A. We have seen a fairly strong uptick this year in 2017 in terms of organic growth, and you have handled that in a very good way in terms of operating leverage. In 2018, are you seeing any bottlenecks in your supply chain or in your production, or do you expect leverage to be continued good? Second question from my side is regarding SMT. Göran Björkman has now been head of the division for four to five months, and could you please elaborate a bit on what he is doing to improve profitability? Also if you think that, given the very strong development in the oil price lately, that this could also help the improvement in the division. Thank you.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Thank you. Starting with our production unit, I think that 2017 has been, as I mentioned before, really the year of ramping up. It is quite cumbersome for many of our operations where they need to, especially within SMRT, where they need to get the volumes up to some of the production is more than doubling the volumes. I think they managed this well, and I think, as you can see on our revenues for the quarter, is that we really got the deliveries out and the invoicing come on the right level. Moving in now to 2018, we are, of course, comparing with much stronger order intakes. The strongest order we had last year was actually the first quarter 2017, where we had over SEK 10 billion in orders for SMRT. That was the really hard.

Of course, it will be more challenging to grow from those levels, even though we see that the underlying market is very strong, driven by strong metal prices and demand in the market. We do believe that at least, you never know about the mining market. It can change any day. As we see today, we do expect that at the beginning of the year, at least, we should see a continuous strong demand from the market. I think as long as we see the metal prices on good levels, that this will continue. The focus here instead will be more on driving efficiency now on these high levels, and hopefully we can see also some growth going forward. As I mentioned, SMT, Göran is in place with his team, and a lot of focus for Göran.

He has 18 years experience from SMT and the last 10 years from SMS. It's, of course, to identify where are the issues. I think he's done a good job. I think it's a combination about mix, meaning that pricing, we need to make sure that the pricing is the right for the product, that we focus on the areas where we are making more money. The underlying demand is important, and we have, of course, seen during the year an improvement, which will support the improvement going forward. It's also to make sure that the cost structure is in line with the demand. It's a full plate for Göran and his team. That's pretty clear.

It's true that the oil price has gone up to levels, We know that the oil industry has managed to get down the break-even levels to quite significantly lower than before. I think the most oil and gas companies are actually making money today, where we do hope that we will see improvements. We follow the number of rigs operating in the market, We saw a good increase during 2017, leveling off in the mid-end of the year, We see some improvements in the end of the year. We managed to get orders within oil and gas, the umbilical order, which was important during the quarter, which is crucial for SMT to be able to deliver a good result. We are carefully optimistic that there should be some improvements with the oil and gas market during the year.

Ann-Sofie Nordh
VP and Head of Investor Relations, Sandvik

Okay. Thank you. We have one more question here in the room. Please, Anders.

Anders Roslund
Analyst, Pareto

Yes. Anders Roslund, Pareto. I have two questions regarding growth. First, Machining Solutions. The 10% achieved now in the fourth quarter, is that a year-on-year figure, which will be difficult to beat now coming into 2018? Do you still see growth? How has the year started in January?

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

We normally give just a small indication. I think it continues on a good level from Q4 into this year. There are no big changes in direction. More than that, I don't like to say. It is the same as with SMRT, is that there are going to be more challenging numbers to face going forward. That's pretty clear. You saw the underlying demand in the market, and that has continued, at least in the beginning of this quarter.

Anders Roslund
Analyst, Pareto

Okay. The same question regarding the Mining and Rock Technology. You reached SEK 38 billion in order intake, and you start off with SEK 10 billion as a comparison. Will there be any growth in 2018 regarding the full-year figure? I guess it's difficult to beat the SEK 10 billion, but how about the replacement cycle and new investments in the mining?

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

I think from our perspective, it's best is not to speculate too much of that. I think the important from our perspective is that the underlying demand has not changed. That is. Where the orders will come in, there is a continuously. Our products are what we call wear products. It's not these heavy investment as capital goods. They have a lifetime between five and 10 years, and you have to need to replace them. There are these continues. We, of course, know that the first quarter last year was enormous on orders. We do not expect too much growth during the first quarter compared to that, even though we believe it's going to be on a good level. Going forward, it's a big appetite in the market for the moment, but as always, this is the best time to prepare for downturns.

We work with all our PAs to make continuously plans, making sure that we know how to adopt when it will weaken out. The upturn from us has been only 2017. If you look at the mining market, it started to go down 2012, and it's been down until 2016. For us, it would be a pity if it's only one year. We hope for the best, and we plan for the worst. Okay. Thank you.

Ann-Sofie Nordh
VP and Head of Investor Relations, Sandvik

Thank you. Can we move on to the conference call, please? Operator, can you let through the first question?

Operator

First question is from the line of Graham Phillips at Jefferies. Please go ahead, Graham. Your line is now open.

Graham Phillips
Analyst, Jefferies

Good morning, Björn and Tomas. Yes, two questions, one on mining and one on machining, please. First of all on mining, given us a split there between aftermarket and OE, can you contrast a little bit the organic growth between those two, or how it compared to, say, a year ago? What is the margin differential between the two, and what could the likely impact be into 2018 if you've got OE growing faster than aftermarket? On machining, I wanted to ask a little bit about the drop-through margin. It's obviously very high, and again, thinking into 2018, you're guiding for higher CapEx. I guess you're also probably going to have higher costs in R&D. What sort of normal drop-through margin would you be expecting in 2018?

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Good. Let's start with the mining part. We had during the Q4 through the aftermarket around 10%, so it is pretty much in line with the capital goods. We are looking at the capital goods, as I mentioned, we are seeing better growth in drilling and blasting than we are seeing on the crushing side. That gives you a little bit. The margin is, of course, significantly higher in the aftermarket. A good aftermarket is good, and this is, as we talked about so many times, is that when the market goes down on the equipment, the mix, that means a bigger % of the sales become the aftermarket. That is how you protect the margins in the downturn. Good growth in the aftermarket, so we are happy about that. 10% is a good level.

Going into next year, if you look during the year, we started up very high, and then it has been pretty flat during the years on a high level, if you compare sequentially on the mining side. It was big from the beginning and then on a good level. The comparison was much lower. How that will be going forward, we expect, at least in the beginning, that will be on a high level. As I say, again, the comparison numbers will be tougher, of course.

Ann-Sofie Nordh
VP and Head of Investor Relations, Sandvik

Drop-through in SMS.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Yeah, right. We have a 64% drop-through which is normally much higher than what we are used to and should be. The normal drop-through should be around 40%-50%. That is the level when we are doing something on the good. That is also what we are hoping before. What I can mention is that during the year, we have done quite a lot of investments into the adjacent technologies. SMS is investing big money into additive manufacturing and also to the software business. We will continue to do that, and we will actually accelerate these investments into 2018 because that is where we are going to be make money in the future. We have a pretty aggressive investment plan on SMS on new technologies.

Graham Phillips
Analyst, Jefferies

Okay, just a follow-up, sorry. With the SEK 4 billion that you're guiding to on CapEx, which I think is about a 12% increase on last year, you don't see that 40%-50% drop-through, and obviously, it would be more depreciation, but also other costs in terms of research and development. You think that's sustainable for this year?

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

I think we mentioned that we are from between 40% and 50%, that's where we think we should be.

Graham Phillips
Analyst, Jefferies

Okay. Thank you.

Ann-Sofie Nordh
VP and Head of Investor Relations, Sandvik

Thank you. Can we have the next question, please? Operator?

Operator

Yes. It's over the line of Klas Bergelind of Citi. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Klas Bergelind
Analyst, Citi

Yes. Hi, Björn and Tomas. It's Klas on Citi. Two questions. Just briefly coming back to the drop-through there in SMS. Several companies have reported better price cost this quarter. Was the solid drop-through volume led or price led, and where can the investments go to next year in digital? I think it was SEK 60 million-SEK 80 million this year. Are we going to see a step change to SEK 200 million, SEK 300 million? Just so we understand a little bit what happened with price versus volume in the quarter, and what will happen to the actual investment level ahead?

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

On the pricing level, for the group, it's about 1%. That's where we are. I think SMS is somewhat higher. That's approximately where we are on the pricing. Rest is driven by efficiencies and volumes.

Tomas Eliasson
EVP and CFO, Sandvik

Your second question was on R&D expenses for the new Product Areas.

Klas Bergelind
Analyst, Citi

Exactly.

Tomas Eliasson
EVP and CFO, Sandvik

They will go up in 2018 as compared to 2017. If you do a bridge, we will invest more in expenses.

Klas Bergelind
Analyst, Citi

Any guide on how much, Tomas?

Tomas Eliasson
EVP and CFO, Sandvik

No.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

I think we are around 3.5%, sometimes up to 4%, but we will continue to have an active R&D Business or the activities within the product areas. There are many exciting new products that will be launched during next year, we have new projects that we are running. We are not holding back on the R&D side. I think that's important. That's good. That's the thing that's going to be driving the organic growth going forward. It's nothing that is sticking out. I don't think there's something you need to worry about. We have our percentages. We try to keep them on approximately the same. Now when the volumes goes up, of course, there is a little bit more room for investments in R&D.

My philosophy is why you need to be number one and number two in the different business you operate, because you need to invest more in R&D than your competitors. If you sell more, are more successful, make more money, you can afford yourself to do a little bit more on the R&D than your competitors, that's going to be key for the future.

Klas Bergelind
Analyst, Citi

On SMT, during the CMD in November last year, the new head of SMT gave a very solid and honest presentation, in my view, on the challenges ahead and some of the mistakes under the previous management. Saying, for example, that previous management betted perhaps on a recovery in the oil price. Now when the oil price recovers, we can see that the recovery still hurts the margin through the negative mix, as the recovery is first taking place in core and standard. We need more of the larger high-margin orders here. The backlog is solid on large orders for invoicing in 2018. In short, to what extent should we see the mix improve here as we go through the year, as we start to invoice the larger backlog?

Are we jumping to 7%, 8% margin and the operational achievements take the margin to 10% the year after? Is that the trajectory?

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

We're not going into all these details, of course, just to give you a little bit overview of the oil and gas market, it's true that the oil price has gone up. We start seeing some more movements within the oil and gas industry. For our, what we call oil and gas, has been developing good during these tough years. Our umbilical business has managed to get the orders and keep the factory full all through this challenging time, which I think it's a great achievement. How the oil and gas industry is affecting SMT, it's more that the oil and gas industry is a big taker of pipe all over and in the big investment programs. When the oil price went down, there became over capacity among the OEMs.

That continues to be, even though companies are starting to get their capacity to the right level and the demand goes up somewhat. That will be helping a little bit, but that's the main effect from the oil and gas industry. Göran's team, yes, they are focusing on making sure that we take in orders with good margins. We have, during these tough times, of course, also taken in a lot of orders with less margin, because of making sure that we are filling our smelter. The underlying demand has become stronger, which helps us, of course, to focusing on the type of orders that are giving better margin. That's one part of it, but it is also to adopting the cost structuring in line with the development or with the order intake and the demand. There is a lot on his plate at the moment.

I think they are focusing on the right thing. Still to be proven, and as I said, we need to see something here during 2018 that clearly shows that we are moving the right way.

Klas Bergelind
Analyst, Citi

Another way of asking this is perhaps that I think when I look at the order intake, the larger umbilicals for 2017, I get to SEK 1.5 billion-SEK 1.8 billion of larger orders yet to be delivered. How much of that is going to fall into 2018, which will improve the mix?

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

I think on the umbilical sides, there's not too long order. Here we're talking about four to six months. That's all we have on order. We need to take in orders all the time to be able to deliver out. On the umbilical side, the orders we've taken in, they will be delivered out during 2018.

Klas Bergelind
Analyst, Citi

Thank you.

Ann-Sofie Nordh
VP and Head of Investor Relations, Sandvik

Thank you, Klas. Can we have the next question please, operator?

Operator

Yes. We now go to Guillermo Peigneux of UBS. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Guillermo Peigneux Lojo
Analyst, UBS

Good morning, Björn, Tomas, and MC. Guillermo Peigneux from UBS. I was a bit positively surprised by the outlook on the currency for the SEK 250 million FX. I guess part of this comes from some of your businesses going into, well, being divested, but is there any change in the underlying assumptions for the FX calculation? Is there more from Europe into Europe, or this is the normal sensitivity in your business? I'll wait for the second question. Thank you.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Okay. Well, it is what it is. There are no major changes apart from divestments, of course, Process Systems and Mining Systems. No, we just took the exchange rates by January 31st. The big mover is the US dollar, of course. When we talk about guidance, we talk about transactional and translational. The total transactional exposure in the company is a bit

Tomas Eliasson
EVP and CFO, Sandvik

Let's say between SEK 15 billion and SEK 20 billion, depending a little bit, but annually, where more than half is US dollars. That's the big mover, there's no fundamental changes as such.

Guillermo Peigneux Lojo
Analyst, UBS

Okay, thank you. If I can come back to the mining order intake, is there any particular hiatus or softness into the fourth quarter? You saw more hesitant spending from the mining players there, or it's just basically coming off from very high levels or just basically confronting a more difficult comparable environment?

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Yeah. We don't see any change in environment. The demand is very strong, we expect it to continue on this level for some time.

Guillermo Peigneux Lojo
Analyst, UBS

If I may elaborate on my question, sorry for that, but if I look at your order intake now, and if I try to see that into the first half of 2017, even though it's obviously impacted by the currency, and I completely understand that, but it seems to be, in a way, that what we see now is a period of three quarters of probably below one book-to-bill, which will result in some kind of sell weakness if the currency stays at these levels, right? Is it just basically the cycle taking its place and then now normal spending coming from the miners, or is this just basically a temporary blip on the intake?

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

I think if you look at the book-to-bill ratio, the first three quarters were all above one. I think during the last quarter, we were very flat, just slightly negative. The order is very high. The reason why we got, of course, a lot out is that we've been struggling a lot to get equipment out with sub-suppliers who had to ramp up volumes and so on. We got a little bit of a kick-out during the last. From demand side, I think it's no change. Orders come during certain times, and it can come a little bit more within a month than another month and during a quarter. The important thing and the signals from the market is that the underlying demand continued to be the same strength as we've seen during 2017.

Guillermo Peigneux Lojo
Analyst, UBS

Thank you very much. My last question, could you comment a bit on mining equipment pricing?

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Yes. On the equipment side is a little bit higher and a little bit less on consumables, which is with the same trend as we've seen before. Mining is also somewhat under 1% totally.

Guillermo Peigneux Lojo
Analyst, UBS

Thank you. That is like for like equipment, or that would include also your new product launches?

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

I guess I don't really know the difference there. Normally when we launch new equipment, it's the same you've seen in SMS. You get a little bit more pricing strike.

Tomas Eliasson
EVP and CFO, Sandvik

It is price and mix.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Price and mix. Okay.

Guillermo Peigneux Lojo
Analyst, UBS

That makes sense. Thank you very much.

Ann-Sofie Nordh
VP and Head of Investor Relations, Sandvik

Thank you. Can we have the next question, please? Operator.

Operator

Yes, of course. It's over to Peder Frölén at Handelsbanken Capital. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Peder Frölén
Analyst, Handelsbanken Capital

Thank you. Hi, Björn, Tomas, and Ann-Sofie. I need to come back to growth. You've been pretty clear that you want to grow also inorganically, maybe you could share some more thoughts in the management team or even in relationship with the board what to expect here. The divestment has been in the plan. You argue that the targets are highly prized, but at the same time, the market is moving. I'm really looking forward to what type of actions to see during 2018. Should we expect more small bolt-ons? I'm talking metrology software and so forth, or could we actually see something more meaningful in order to take a significant position in the call it manufacturing change, so to speak? That's my first question.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

It's correct. I mentioned that the focus is organic growth, also through merger and acquisitions. The business area where we're targeting most and where we'd like to see most happening is within SMS. We've been very active during the year to identify, to work together. I also mentioned before that we do expect that we should get a couple of acquisition, non-huge acquisitions, more bolt-on, right direction with the right technology going forward. Yes, the price is a little bit high. I think we have to accept that. At the same time, we have to be careful that we don't overpay for big things. We'll be prepared. We're doing our job, and when the opportunities comes, I can assure you, we are going to be there and try to complete the-

Peder Frölén
Analyst, Handelsbanken Capital

Okay. Let's get back to that another occasion. My second question would be on SMS growth. We're talking about 16% growth in North America, despite the auto side is sort of flattish. Could you elaborate a bit about market shares or if there is any restocking pre-buy effect here? I don't really see the underlying industrial market growing 20%.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Yeah, I think out of those 70% we had in North America, we are around 13%, 14% in U.S. The other part where you see the biggest part is also coming from Canada and from the mining side, pulling those numbers up a little bit. The U.S. market is strong for us. There could be some areas where we are taking market share, but overall, it's pretty flat. That's how we look upon it. It could be within certain segments that we have been improving a little bit, but at the same time it could be segments where we have a little bit more challenging situation. Overall, it's pretty much the same market share as before.

Peder Frölén
Analyst, Handelsbanken Capital

If you look at Machining Solutions separately, 16% order growth in North America and say then, as you mentioned, 13%, 14%, 15% in the U.S. Has there been any change to the stocking situation among distributors here on the SMS side, purely North America?

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

I think nothing there directly that is sticking out. There could be probably somewhat, but nothing major, I would say. For SMS, they've been working hard trying to get the net working capital up a little bit because they are on the limit what they can have to be able to deliver according to the demand. Demand has continued to be so strong, so we really haven't managed to get the net working capital up. That gives you a little bit a feeling of the demand in the market.

Peder Frölén
Analyst, Handelsbanken Capital

That's very clear. Thank you for that. I get back in line.

Ann-Sofie Nordh
VP and Head of Investor Relations, Sandvik

Thank you. Can we have the next question, please?

Operator

Yes. The next question's from the line of Alexander Virgo at Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

Alexander Virgo
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Thanks very much. Good morning, everybody. I wondered if you could just go into the European growth in SMS just a little bit, and perhaps discuss the working days impact on Europe in the quarter, and perhaps just remind us what the working day impacts were in Q1 and Q2 so we have an idea for the comparability of growth as we move forward into Q1. I wondered if I could just clarify, you said January has continued in terms of momentum. That's just on SMS. Thank you.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

If we look at the Europe, you're seeing very strong growth in whole Europe, in the whole region. Europe has also had about 1.5% of negative working days. The underlying is somewhat stronger there. Very strong Europe, actually, during the quarter.

Alexander Virgo
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

In terms of the working day impact in Q1 last year?

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

1.5%.

Alexander Virgo
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

As well?

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Negative.

Alexander Virgo
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Yeah. Okay. January has started as-

Ann-Sofie Nordh
VP and Head of Investor Relations, Sandvik

Sorry, Alex. Sorry.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

That was in the fourth quarter.

Ann-Sofie Nordh
VP and Head of Investor Relations, Sandvik

Sorry to interrupt. The number Björn just referred to was actually in the fourth quarter, not an outlook for the first quarter.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Oh, sorry. Okay. I'm still talking about the fourth quarter, so. No, we don't have a What is it?

Speaker 14

Minus one.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Okay. Minus one during Q1 is then expected.

Alexander Virgo
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Brilliant. Okay, that's lovely. January, you said, I think earlier on, January has started as Q4 ended. Is that right?

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Yeah, we said no changes actually in demand during beginning of this quarter.

Alexander Virgo
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay, great. Thank you. I guess just to pick up your last point there on net working capital in SMS, I think you talked about inventory build in Q4 helping the operating margin by 30 basis points or so. What can we assume, or what do you think we can assume in Q1 in terms of that one?

Tomas Eliasson
EVP and CFO, Sandvik

On the working capital?

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Yeah.

Tomas Eliasson
EVP and CFO, Sandvik

Well, I mean, yeah, sorry.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Go ahead.

Tomas Eliasson
EVP and CFO, Sandvik

Well, from a working capital point of view, you saw both SMRT and SMS coming in with really good numbers. Especially in SMS, the inventory levels are a bit too low. The reason for that is that the demand has been so strong, so we've had problems, or not problems, but it's been challenging to catch up with customer demand. This means that we are trying to restore service levels in many of our finished goods warehouses going forward. What we're really trying to say here, you can't expect any major working capital reductions in 2018 as we've had in 2017 for these reasons.

Alexander Virgo
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Very clear. Thanks, Tomas. Thank you.

Ann-Sofie Nordh
VP and Head of Investor Relations, Sandvik

Thank you. Can we have the next question please, operator?

Operator

Yes, of course. That is Sebastien Gruter at Redburn. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Sebastien Gruter
Analyst, Redburn

Hi. Good morning to all. I have two questions, but I'll start with the first one on mining. Since you track your mining equipment install base, do you know if the average age of the fleet has come down last year, or was it stable or up? Or in other words, what's the proportion of your fleet that has been replaced in the last 12 months? Thank you.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

No, I don't have those numbers here. I'm sure they know that in our mining operations, but I don't have the average age of the equipment. Look at from 2012 until 2016, there was a limited amount of investment. There are rooms for replacements also going forward.

Sebastien Gruter
Analyst, Redburn

Okay, thank you. The second question will be on the productivity gains. When you presented the targets, you talked about 3% productivity gains to offset 2%-3% wage inflation. I'd like to know what were the outcome for 2017, and what should we expect on that for full year 2018? Thank you.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

About 8%.

Tomas Eliasson
EVP and CFO, Sandvik

Yep.

Sebastien Gruter
Analyst, Redburn

8%.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

I think it's about 8% we ended up during the fourth quarter and the ending of the year. Of course, the revenues are coming up, of course with a pretty flat number of employees. The productivity really goes up. We do expect that this productivity improvement will continue into 2018.

Sebastien Gruter
Analyst, Redburn

The 3% was the target. You achieved 8% in the first quarter. Should we think toward the 3% you talked about, or you can still maintain this 8%?

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

I would not go into numbers there. We have as underlying during a business cycle that our businesses should improve at least 3%, but there are no limits on the upside. We do expect that many of the business will do better. I don't think 8% is extraordinary. I think we are growing, at that time you should see good improvement in the productivity. I think there is much more to be done in the operations going forward.

Sebastien Gruter
Analyst, Redburn

On the other side of the equation, on wage inflation, overall cost inflation, do you see a pickup in 2018 versus the course you had in 2017?

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Can I hand that to the inflation side?

Tomas Eliasson
EVP and CFO, Sandvik

Three.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

3% maybe.

Tomas Eliasson
EVP and CFO, Sandvik

Between 3 and 4% in some areas. It's not going down, at least.

Sebastien Gruter
Analyst, Redburn

Thank you.

Ann-Sofie Nordh
VP and Head of Investor Relations, Sandvik

Thank you very much. We have time for one final question. Please, Operator, can you put it through?

Operator

Okay. That is over to Markus Almerud at Kepler Cheuvreux. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Markus Almerud
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Hi, good morning. Markus Almerud from Kepler Cheuvreux. Two questions. You've hit all the targets to continue with those, when should we expect you to set new targets? Next year? They were set for end of 2018, but you're ahead, should we wait until next year, or what are your plans there? That's my first question. If I can just ask on mining demand. Orders are a little bit up and down. It's around SEK 10 billion and a half in this quarter, SEK 9.2 billion in Q3. If you would characterize demand throughout the year, would you say it's fairly stable throughout the year? Moving in any direction?

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Started with the targets. Yes, it's correct. When we set the targets in May 2016, we were of course expecting a flat market, and we're seeing, of course, tremendous volume improvement. We have beaten all those targets that we have set up for 2018 full year. We haven't really decided that yet. If it's according to the plan that we had, 2016 was that we were going to do it on the Capital Market Day 2019, there on the spring, the next Capital Market Day. If we'll do it before, we'll come back on that. We are not sure yet. Tomas had promised that we'll not go backwards, will we?

Tomas Eliasson
EVP and CFO, Sandvik

Yeah, that promise stays. Not backwards in 2018.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Yeah. I think demand on the mining business, it's difficult to say anything more than it continues to be on a strong level, there is a lot of activity out in the market. In addition to the strong demand for equipment, there's also a strong demand for automation and electrification. These are the two new areas which are both exciting, we believe it's going to be crucial for our mining business going forward. It is a very exciting time. It's a great combination, something that we really haven't seen that before. I never speculate on mining demand because it normally goes wrong. Let's take it as it comes, and at the moment, we are happy when it's on the level that it is today. I think maybe that would be the last answer, Ancy, so.

Ann-Sofie Nordh
VP and Head of Investor Relations, Sandvik

Indeed it is.

Björn Rosengren
President and CEO, Sandvik

Thank you very much.

Ann-Sofie Nordh
VP and Head of Investor Relations, Sandvik

Thank you very much. I know there are still questions out there on the conference call. Please feel free to call myself or my colleague, Anna, and we'll help you the best we can. Thank you for today and see you soon.

Tomas Eliasson
EVP and CFO, Sandvik

Thank you.