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Earnings Call: Q2 2016

Jul 15, 2016

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the presentation of the interim report Q2 2016 for Sobi. I will now hand over to Geoffrey McDonough, CEO. Please go ahead.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Thank you, Mark. Good afternoon, everybody, and good morning to those of you joining us from the U.S. Welcome to this presentation of our Q2 and year-to-date earnings here at Sobi. As usual, we will make about 20 minutes of prepared comments and then open the floor for Q&A. I'm joined today by Alan Raffensperger, our Chief Operating Officer. Today, I will fulfill a lifelong fantasy to be the CFO of the company by standing in for Mats-Olof Wallin, who has an important personal event today, but who will be available again in the office next week, just in case I'm unable to capture all of the detail that he would usually cover. We are going to make some, but very few, forward-looking statements. We're obligated to show the slides. Do keep that in mind for the duration of the presentation.

The second quarter was a very active quarter for us. As you know, it was the first full quarter of run for the Elocta launch. We also had approval for Elocta come in the quarter for Switzerland. Importantly, we got the approval for Alprolix and began first sales in Germany in the quarter. It feels great to be in a situation now where the hemophilia franchise that we've been working towards for so long is now fully underway with both products approved in our territories. We also had some significant milestones for Kineret with the final element of our patent estate being granted in Europe for the new citrate pre-formulation. We also signed a licensing agreement with our partner, Affibody, to develop a longer-term replacement or second generation molecule for Kineret with an Affibody platform basis.

We also signed an agreement to undertake tech transfer so that we could ensure both capacity and security for long-term supply for Kineret by doing so with Pfizer at their facility in Strängnäs. We also, with Pfizer, extended our long-term manufacturing agreement for the drug substance for ReFacto through the end of 2023. Orfadin oral suspension and 20 milligram capsule were both approved in the U.S. It's a really important milestone for us for Orfadin. Finally, we were able to call our bond a year ahead of schedule and to replace it with a financing structure, which will have both better strategic flexibility as well as a lower cost structure going forward. We had also a nice incremental step towards potential registration in Canada for Orfadin after the quarter close with the validation of our capsule filing there.

To move on to the financial highlights, the second quarter was a very strong quarter financially, as was the first half. I'll run through first a summary of the Q2 results, then give a high-level view of the company year-to-date. In the quarter, total revenue came in at SEK 1.469 billion, representing 92% growth. Keep in mind there's a one-time credit here coming alongside the approval of Alprolix in the amount of SEK 386 million. Product revenues were SEK 1.288 billion. ReFacto came in at SEK 181 million, a nice increase over the same quarter last year. Margin, also buoyed by the impact of the one-time credit, came in at 72%, and EBITDA at SEK 550 million.

Cash flow from operations in the quarter were flat or zero and related mainly to the ebb and flow of paying off the bond and the timing of orders coming quite late in the quarter. If we take a look with the same kind of perspective on the year-to-date performance for the first half, you can see that the first half revenues were just a little over SEK 2.7 billion, representing an almost 70% growth versus the first half last year. From a product perspective, it was about SEK 2.4 billion, over 90% growth. Again, keep in mind that the total of the one-time credits for the first half, which will be non-recurring, was a little over SEK 700 million. ReFacto has had the opposite phasing this year compared to last year.

Our second half will be a little stronger than the first, whereas last year was stronger in the first half. In the first half year-to-date, there's a 14% decrease. Margin year-to-date 73% and EBITDA a little over SEK 1 billion with cash flow at SEK 235 million. I've mentioned a couple of times these one-time credits. If you back those out and take a look at the year-to-date performance with those taken to the side, you can see the total revenues were a little ahead of SEK 2 billion, representing 25% growth overall, 27% at constant exchange rates. Product revenues were particularly strong, coming in at a 38% growth at SEK 1.7 billion for the first half. As I said, ReFacto at about SEK 350 million is a little lower compared to last year. The margin was 64%.

Obviously, the credits are recognized at 100% gross margin. The remaining impacts on margin were mainly explained by product mix, which we'll talk a little bit more about later. EBITDA year-to-date was SEK 344 million, with cash flow from operations unchanged at SEK 235 million. If you take a look at the year-to-date contributions by business line, you can see that due to a singularly lower result in Q2 for Orfadin, genetics and metabolism year-to-date had a growth of 4%. We do expect that we'll recover as we move into the second half of the year. Inflammation had a particularly strong first half, growing the Kineret franchise at about 28%. Obviously, hemophilia making a strong new contribution this half. The partner products portfolio was flat on a constant exchange rate basis, but had very nice growth in Q2.

I've covered ReFacto, which I'll cover in slightly more detail on the next slide. The total income for ReFacto in the quarter was SEK 181 million, year-to-date SEK 346 million, as I said. That breaks down to SEK 142 million from revenue from manufacturing. We have some changes in the royalties related to ReFacto that have been planned for 10 years now. In this year and next year, we'll have a couple of shifts. We see the first of them now. The royalty for the rest of the world component for BeneFIX has expired in May of 2016, and the year-to-date income from that royalty was about SEK 47 million, which will not be recurring in the second half. The remainder of the global royalty on BeneFIX will persist through January of 2018.

With that, I'd like to turn the floor over to Alan Raffensperger to run through the remainder of the core business. Alan?

Alan Raffensperger
COO, Sobi

Thank you very much, Jeff. Starting with Kineret, sales increased 43% during Q2 2016 versus Q2 last year. Year-to-date revenues reached SEK 471 million, which is an increase of 28% over the first half of 2015. We continue to see strong organic growth across all markets. The shift to our more patient-centric distribution model in the U.S., in combination with greater focus by our commercial and medical teams has contributed to the solid results there. Moving on to Orfadin, Q2 sales decreased 4% compared to Q2 2015. Overall, the year-to-date revenue reached SEK 379 million, which is an increase of 3% over the first six months of last year. The volume growth in the quarter was 8%, but revenues were lower due to higher than average Medicaid rebates in June in the U.S. As you see in the graph, Q4 was also higher than Q1.

This was simply due to an extra large order to South America, which usually occurs during the back end of every year. Growth in Europe has been supported by the launch of the Orfadin 20 mg capsule and Orfadin oral suspension, which is now available in almost all markets. The revenue for our partner products portfolio grew by 9% in Q2 versus Q2 2015. For the first six months of this year, we registered revenue of SEK 399 million, which is a decrease of 2%. The stronger Q2 performance was boosted by strong growth for Xiapex in both Dupuytren's contracture and Peyronie's disease. The PharmaSwiss portfolio also contributed to the strong Q2. Moving on to the hemophilia franchise, total revenues reached SEK 627 million for the quarter and just over SEK 1 billion for the first six months.

Focusing specifically on Elocta, the Q2 revenue amounted to SEK 184 million, of which SEK 55 million was related to Elocta product sales in Europe and the Middle East. We also received approval for Elocta in Switzerland during the quarter. Given the importance of our Elocta launch, I would like to add some more color to the numbers. As you know, in Europe, we are launching country by country as we secure reimbursement decisions. Revenue from the quarter was derived mainly from Germany and the Middle East, with first sales in the U.K., Ireland and Sweden. In regards to Germany specifically, if you recall, during our Q1 earnings call, I mentioned that we had initial sales in 12 clinics. By the end of Q2, Elocta was prescribed in 27 clinics. These 27 clinics treat roughly 50% of all the hemophilia patients in Germany.

In regards to access, reimbursement has already been granted in Germany, the Netherlands, Ireland and in Sweden. In regards to access in the U.K., the NHS framework agreements are now in place for Elocta in Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland. The final commissioning guidance is under development in England. Finally, preparations are fully on track to enter all remaining markets over the coming 12 months. In regards to Alprolix, total revenue was SEK 444 million for the quarter. Subtracting the estimated royalty revenue, the one-time credit, and the SEK 14 million milestone payment for the EMA approval of Alprolix, we booked SEK 5 million in product sales, with the first sale booked in Germany in June. Revenue from the quarter was derived mainly from Germany and the Middle East, with first sales also occurring in the U.K.

Reimbursement for Alprolix has now been granted in Germany, the Netherlands and in Ireland. In the U.K., the NHS framework agreements are now in place for Alprolix, effective September 1 in Northern Ireland, Wales, Scotland, with final commissioning guidance under development in England. All preparations are on track to enter the remaining markets over the coming 12 months. The launch sequence will be very similar to Elocta in terms of country sequence. Now I'd like to hand over our earnings call back to Jeff to present our financials.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Thank you, Alan. In this section, I will pinch hit for our CFO, Mats-Olof Wallin, by running you through the P&L, the balance sheet and the cash flow as he normally would do. Starting with the P&L, you can see the quarterly Shift in revenues to SEK 1.469 billion, as I mentioned earlier, with the gross profit coming in at SEK 1.065 billion, resulting in a gross margin of 72%. I mentioned that the gross margin backing out the impact of the credits was 64%. That relates almost entirely to product mix in the quarter and the first half, and also to the impact of the rest of world royalty on ReFacto. I misspoke earlier when I said it was related to BeneFIX. Moving down the P&L, you can see that EBITDA came in at SEK 550 million, with the full-year EBITDA closing at just over SEK 1 billion.

There are two items of note here. The financial net, which is slightly higher related to the cost of closing and calling our bond a year ahead of schedule. There was a 1% charge related to that early call and some transaction fees. The income tax expense is unusually high in the quarter. That relates to a change in our tax model now that we have both hemophilia products in our portfolio formally. We moved to a planned amortization model and therefore taking a one-time charge in Q2 to reflect that change. We do continue to expect our overall tax rate for the year to be in the low 20s on a full-year basis, most of which will be deferred. On the cost side, the SG&A expenses are related to the ongoing build of the hemophilia organization.

We are complete in our build for the tier 1 markets, but have some small incremental investments remaining for the tier 2 and tier 3 markets through the tail of the year here. Finally, the R&D line, as we signaled earlier in the year, is related to the shared costs between us and Biogen. From the point of view of the balance sheet, the main changes here are related to the increase in intangible assets and liabilities due to the approvals for Elocta and Alprolix. Alprolix obviously being seen in the Q2 changes, but both being reflected in the mid-year point. The long-term debt reduction is related to the repayments of the bond loan and also the drawdown of the new term loan facility of SEK 500 million.

If we take a moment to review cash, you can see that our cash position today is SEK 770 million, with net cash coming in at SEK 266 million. That relates, of course, to the change on the calling of the bond. This, as I said at the outset, is something that gives us more strategic flexibility, but also lower financial net terms going forward. As usual, and this will be the last time that we do this, we've run through the impact of the approvals for the hemophilia franchise with respect to the royalties. In this case, the approval of Alprolix has very much the same mechanics as did the approval for Elocta.

Up until launch, we've had a base cross royalty rate of 12%, of which we get 2% in cash related to the sales of Biogen for Alprolix in their territory, which we book as revenue, and the remaining 10% up to now has been accumulated as a credit since the launch of Alprolix. That credit, starting on the first commercial sales of Alprolix, is paid through. That is in the amount of USD 46 million. There's no cash effect, but it is used to reduce our liability. The royalty goes to 12%, 7% of which is booked as revenue and through, of course, the cash, and 5% of which is credited to reduce our development obligation. Our royalty in returns Biogen is 17%, 12% of which is reflected in the COGS line and 5% of which is credited to the development obligation.

The transfer of the MAH for Alprolix will occur in the third quarter this year. At that time, Sobi will assume 50% of shared development activities and costs in 2016 and going forward. We now estimate our total repayment obligation to Biogen to be in the range of $186 million. Now with the reduction of this one-time credit, we currently estimate that liability on a non-adjusted basis to be in the amount of $130 million. With that, I'll proceed to a short summary in two parts. First, as we mentioned in our release, we are not changing guidance, although we feel very, very positive about the first half of results here for the company. This just reflects a cautious approach in a launch year with a lot of things moving here and, of course, the European summer ahead of us.

Feel very, very good about the guidance as we have laid it forth based on the very strong results in Q2 and in the first half. I think in summary, it's fair to say that the core strategy we've had of focusing on the results in our core business, preparing for the launch of our hemophilia franchise, and turning our attention increasingly to building the business on the basis of additional M&A and partnerships now going forward, is well on track based on these results. Very happy now to conclude the call and move into the open Q&A. Thank you. Over to you, Mark.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask a question of our speakers, please dial zero one on your telephone keypad now. Our first question comes from Eun Won of Jefferies. Please go ahead, your line's open.

Eun Won
Analyst, Jefferies

Thank you. Good morning. I know it is still early in the launch cycle for hemophilia product

Regarding Elocta, I think you mentioned that you have been seeing patients switching from both short-acting as well as a plasma product. Are you also seeing patients switching from on-demand to prophylactic treatment?

Alan Raffensperger
COO, Sobi

Eun, it's Alan Raffensperger here. Yes, we actually are seeing both on-demand and prophylactic patients being switched. As you know, there's a vast majority of patients in a country like Germany are actually prophy patients, but we are capturing both.

Eun Won
Analyst, Jefferies

Okay. Potentially you could actually expand the, kind of in terms of sales revenue, you can expand the hemophilia market. Is that correct?

Alan Raffensperger
COO, Sobi

That's correct, Eun.

Eun Won
Analyst, Jefferies

Okay. A second question is on Kineret. Are you seeing proportionally more sales growth in the U.S. versus the rest of the ex-U.S.? The second question is, in the past, you have given us guidance that for new indications such as acute gout and Still's disease, you are planning to start the phase II and phase III study early next year. Can you give us an update? Also, can you kind of talk about the market opportunity for those two new indications? Thank you.

Alan Raffensperger
COO, Sobi

Yes, Eun.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Sure.

Alan Raffensperger
COO, Sobi

I'll take the first question and then pass over to Jeff for the second question regarding the trial activity and the potential for gout and also Still's in the U.S. We are seeing actually greater growth volume and also value in the U.S. On the value side, we did raise the price of Kineret 9% in January. On the volume side, due to the very focused patient-centric distribution model or if you recall that we made the transfer to that new model during the course of last year, we are seeing the benefits of improved compliance and adherence to Kineret. On top of that, we also have a very focused local medical and marketing and sales organization that's working well. That combination has pushed North America ahead of Europe in regards to growth, both in value and also in volume.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Thank you, Alan. Eun, to take your second question, the trials are both on track to get started here at year end and beginning of next year. We expect them each to allow us to proceed to a filing, if successful, in the 2019 and 2020 timeframe. As you mentioned, the trial for Still's disease is a phase III single pivotal trial, which would bring us to an approval in the 2019 timeframe. We estimate that the eligible population of patients that we could approach who would be incremental to our business today would be in the range of 2,000 additional patients. If you look at the acute gout indication, the timeframes are similar, but we have a first dose ranging phase II trial, which will also give us a good indication or confirmation of efficacy and in particular inform our primary endpoint selection for phase III.

That will give us a good midway gating point to decide on the incremental investment for phase III. We would expect to proceed to a single phase III in that indication as well with approval around 2020. There, although it's an acute indication, we talk about a much larger eligible patient population. We think that the relative value is going to be roughly twice that of the Still's population over time. We'll know a lot more about how to estimate that once we're at the end of the phase II for acute gout.

Eun Won
Analyst, Jefferies

A follow-up question is on Kineret. Have you disclosed how many patients are currently on Kineret?

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

No, we haven't disclosed our total patient numbers, Eun.

Eun Won
Analyst, Jefferies

Just a quick follow-up. In terms of patients switching from short-acting plasma minor on-demand therapy to Elocta, I don't know if you can just give us a quantitative to what % in each category are currently on Elocta?

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

We don't have numbers to give you that are precise, Eun, mainly because we don't know them. They're not numbers that we can purchase or easily access. I can give you our sense. When we discuss it internally, we think the vast majority of early adoption here is in the prophy pool, and that the on-demand pool is probably 10% or less, but one that we would expect to become more significant over the coming years of launch and experience.

Eun Won
Analyst, Jefferies

Okay. Thanks very much.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Thanks, Eun.

Alan Raffensperger
COO, Sobi

Thanks, Eun.

Operator

Our next question comes from Erik Hultgård of Carnegie. Go ahead, sir. Your line is open.

Erik Hultgård
Analyst, Carnegie

Yes. Hi. Thank you. Two questions on the Elocta launch and one on the guidance, if I may. First on the Elocta launch. It's now been on the market and commercially available in Germany for around six months. Could you say something about the uptake in Germany versus the uptake in the U.S. during this period? Is it faster, is it similar, or is it slower?

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Erik, it's Jeff here. I think what we see in centers who are open and ready to begin with the use of Elocta, it's very similar to what we see in the U.S. Systematically, the approach in Germany is slightly different from the way it is in the U.S., even though the reimbursement environment is similar. Each center has to make their own agreement essentially or platform on which to use the product. In that sense, the center by center adoption is slower than it is in the U.S. In the U.S., you really have one starting gun and all the centers begin at the same time. In Germany, as Alan was saying, we've moved from 12 centers in the first quarter to 27 centers in the second quarter, that just reflects the pace of bringing each center onto line.

Erik Hultgård
Analyst, Carnegie

All right, thank you. My second question on the Elocta launch is that when I read the report, it looks like Luxembourg is the only country that has been added to the list of countries with secured reimbursement for Elocta that's in Q1 report. If that is correct, is market access moving slower than you expected, or is it on track?

Alan Raffensperger
COO, Sobi

Erik, it's Alan here. We secured reimbursement in the Netherlands as well, Ireland. I believe I mentioned as well in the U.K. framework, we have now full reimbursement in Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland. They are negotiating locally, in England, for the NHS framework. We have high expectations that that will be fixed and secured very soon.

Erik Hultgård
Analyst, Carnegie

I think you may, if I remember correctly, you mentioned off the Q1 that you had just received a secured reimbursement in the Netherlands and also in Ireland. I was just wondering what has happened in terms of reimbursement since the first quarter report.

Alan Raffensperger
COO, Sobi

We also have Sweden as well has been secured, Erik.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Erik, if I might give a little more color, I think what Alan said is exactly right, specifically to take a couple of those examples. In Ireland, we had an agreement on the basis of the tender to begin prescribing in the middle of the first quarter, but that translated to the center-based adoption and agreements that allowed us to move forward more formally in Q2. Likewise, for the rest of the U.K., we have what's called a framework agreement that allows for broad adoption across the centers, which is something that is newly coming online here at the end of the quarter. We have several markets where we have incrementally agreed on a price and a reimbursement framework, but we're prevented from speaking about them until they're locally published.

I think it's worth perhaps just saying in the aggregate that in general we're finding the establishment of pricing and reimbursement to be ahead of our expectations and timing for the markets where we have feedback so far. The gap between when those agreements have been reached and when they can be publicly announced is enforced by the local governments.

Erik Hultgård
Analyst, Carnegie

All right, thanks a lot. Then finally on guidance, despite higher Alprolix credits, also I guess, currencies has moved in your direction since guidance was issued, you stick to it. Is there anything that is proceeding worse than you predicted in your initial guidance or are you just being cautious?

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Yeah, just an abundance of caution, Erik. There's nothing that we foresee that is moving against us or that we would foresee as more challenging in the second half. As is obvious from the results, we have some one-time items that will not recur in the second half versus the first half. Since we're in such a relatively early phase of the step-ups here for the hemophilia launches, we just felt that it was better to proceed under a more cautious way of thinking from the point of view of the guidance. Obviously, if we come back from the summer and head into Q3 and have a better sense of how things are going, we can make an adjustment then.

Erik Hultgård
Analyst, Carnegie

All right, thanks a lot. I'll jump back in the queue.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Okay. Thanks, Erik.

Alan Raffensperger
COO, Sobi

Thanks Erik.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Richard Parkes of Deutsche Bank. Go ahead, sir, your line is open.

Richard Parkes
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Hi. Thanks for taking my questions. I hope you're well. Just a few. Firstly, on the ELOCTATE royalties that you recognized or estimated. It looks like backing that out, and correct me if my math are wrong, but you're assuming that sales come in in the second quarter above SEK 130 million, which is obviously above where consensus is. I'm just wondering what leads you to that estimate. Maybe you could just let us know how you received the royalty payments from Biogen. Do you get them on a monthly basis? Do you get some insight into where that quarterly number will come out? That's the first question.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

I'll take that one, Richard. We obviously are only in this situation very rarely, that we're a little bit ahead of Biogen earnings. I should start by saying we have no view and no ability to predict exactly where they're going to land. We do get sort of a monthly trend, which of course is a little out of date now since we're ahead of their earnings. We more or less just set a straight line against the monthly trend and past performance. We can and we will be probably a little bit wrong one way or the other. Of course, we'll true that up quarter to quarter. I think on both Elocta and Alprolix to date, Biogen's had a really nice curve. We'll probably be a little bit wrong in our estimates here, but we hope we're not too far off.

Richard Parkes
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay, great. The Elocta EU launch. I'm just wondering what feedback you're getting from centers, and maybe the centers that aren't yet engaging with you in Germany or sort of set up. I know obviously Shire Baxalta are going to be coming along relatively shortly with ADYNOVATE. What's your experience in terms of the things that they're trying to do to maybe tie up physicians or convince centers that they can hold off until ADYNOVATE's available for that switch? I'm just wondering if that's one of the gaps that you need to close to cover that other 50% of centers in Germany.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

I think that's a good question. Without commenting too much on how competitors are behaving, I think it's fair to say that what we're experiencing at the centers so far is a kind of normal adoption curve. We're not experiencing centers who say, "We don't want to engage with this product because we want to wait for another product to come along." It's much more kind of a natural awareness leading to contemplation and ultimately leading to action on the part of individual physicians at key centers. It's always the case that there can be local reimbursement and pricing factors that can be influenced by the competition. In general, what we're dealing with here is just the natural time it takes to bring everybody up to speed with what the product is, what its value is, and how it may be used.

I can say that, and I think Alan said this in the first quarter, it remains the case today that there is a very strong engagement with the idea that what these products are able to offer is a higher level of protection, potentially because the half-life can lead to higher circulating plasma levels of clotting factor. That leads to a very natural way of thinking about patient selection, and that will evolve and shift over the coming year or two as different populations of patients become more appropriate or more eligible. Decision-making in these areas is really jointly held between physicians and patients, once you get the pricing and reimbursement piece out of the way.

The other thing I'll say in terms of the early engagement and feedback is that there's a real desire to understand how the Fc platform in particular will behave in the induction of immune tolerance and also in terms of the immune profile overall. We're in a very early stage of understanding that, but that's one of the main areas of feedback that we hear from physicians in terms of their interest in the platform.

Richard Parkes
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Right. Final question on Alprolix in Europe. You've obviously got a competitor from CSL that has an option for every two-week dosing. I'm just wondering how you're feeling about the opportunity for that product in Europe and whether the advantage you've got in terms of maybe greater in-market experience with Alprolix now can offset that modest disadvantage in terms of dosing in the European market.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Yeah, it's a great question. We're going to see how that unfolds, obviously, over the coming year. We feel really good about the fact that we were able to move from an approval to sales in under three weeks here, and we're very focused on making the cleanest and most positive start that we can in the region. This point about the profiles is quite interesting. Because the strong feedback we've had based on the rest of world experience, including the U.S. so far for extended half-life factor IX, is that patients and physicians really prefer to dose every week. There's not much engagement or early interest in being dosed every other week, even though, of course, large numbers of patients in our own clinical and real-world experience with Alprolix have done that. The preferred regimen really seems to be weekly.

It's a little hard to know yet whether and when that kind of difference might turn out to be differentiating. I think, our view is just to, as you said, we're just focused on making sure that people understand that we have hundreds of patient years experience now with Alprolix. We have very strong, very well-structured outcomes data over a long period of time from the B-YOND study. We're really able to say a lot about both the efficacy and safety experience with Alprolix today. We try to stay focused on those pieces.

Richard Parkes
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay, thanks. Just a final clarification on Refacto. I think you said that you expected Refacto revenues to be higher in the second half than in the first half. Does that include the royalties, which I'm expecting are going to be lower given expiry of those patents?

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

I'm glad you asked that question because I think I might have confused some people with what I said earlier. Let me take your first part of the question first. We expect deliveries of drug substance to Pfizer for Refacto to be higher in the second half than they were in the first half, and by that, I'm talking now about manufacturing revenues. The overall royalty revenues will be lower because the SEK 47 million year to date based on the royalties for Refacto will not recur in the second half. On balance, the total Refacto franchise may be more or less even half to half, but the revenue from manufacturing will be higher. Is that clear?

Richard Parkes
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

That's perfect. Thank you.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Yeah.

Richard Parkes
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Thanks very much.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Thanks, Richard. Yeah. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Hans Muller of Nordea Markets. Go ahead, sir. Your line is open.

Hans Muller
Analyst, Nordea Markets

Good afternoon. A follow-up on Kineret. Should we expect the strong growth to continue into the second half, or have we seen most of the uptick from the change in distribution there? Also secondly, do you still expect reimbursement for all important European countries by end of 2016? Thank you.

Alan Raffensperger
COO, Sobi

Okay, Hans. It's Alan Raffensperger here. I presume the second question, reimbursement for Elocta through all European countries, right? That's your question.

Hans Muller
Analyst, Nordea Markets

Yeah. Correct.

Alan Raffensperger
COO, Sobi

Okay. Question number one regards to Kineret, particularly in the U.S., we do expect the growth to continue. It's difficult to say exactly by how much, but definitely single digit growth to low double digit growth in the U.S., and the main reason is that we haven't totally maximized our opportunity in regards to adherence and compliance with Kineret. That's something to look forward to. That will continue to develop during the course of this year and into next year as well. In regards to reimbursement decisions, and something I didn't mention before Erik asked the question, we have received a couple of positive opinions as well, but they haven't been published yet, so I can't go into which countries. That is progressing very nicely as far as reimbursement or decisions are concerned.

We do expect to have all decisions in place over the next 12 months. I think I mentioned that in the presentation.

Hans Muller
Analyst, Nordea Markets

Okay. I think you said previously that you expect to have most of the approvals already by the end of this year, or maybe I did mistake there.

Alan Raffensperger
COO, Sobi

I said over the next 12 months.

Hans Muller
Analyst, Nordea Markets

Okay. I'm sorry for that.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Maybe I can just add a little color to that because I think that's right. The distinction here I think we tried to make in the presentation earlier was around the major markets in Europe. Alan, I think we are on track to have reimbursement decisions in all the major markets in Europe by the end of 2016. Spain may come a little bit one side or the other, I think we're feeling quite confident that they will all be secured this year. Alan's exactly right that over the next 12 months, there may be some second and third tier markets. By tiers, I just mean waves. How long it takes to expect before you can expect reimbursement to be granted. Alan's exactly correct. Those will continue to come in over the next 12 months. Does that address your question?

Hans Muller
Analyst, Nordea Markets

Yeah. Very good. Thank you so much.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Johan Enärus of Swedbank. Go ahead, sir. Your line is open.

Johan Enärus
Analyst, Swedbank

Thank you for taking my question. Johan Enärus, Swedbank here. Some of them been answered already. I go back to the guide again because if we look at the first half and the milestones that will not occur in the second half, even if we take them out, both the incremental sales that's needed and EBITDA that's needed in the second half seems to be not conservative. It seems to be extremely conservative. Are you planning to have a lavish Christmas party or something?

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

That's an interesting idea. I do think the way you and others are interpreting our approach to the guidance this year is correct. We share your enthusiasm for the first half. We feel very confident about the business across the board and specifically as well related to the hemophilia launch. Having said that, we're also mindful of the fact that we're heading into the summer, and we're in the early stages of the launch. We'd just like to be another couple of months ahead in our experience of the year before we adjust the guidance. Of course, there's always different perspectives on how to handle guidance, and I think at this point, with five years of experience with this management team, I hope we've set the expectation that we are really interested in giving you the most accurate views of how the company will behave.

When we feel really confident about where the results will be, then you'll see us move guidance. If it weren't a launch year, I think there might be a different equation here. Just at the moment, we feel good about leaving things as they are.

Johan Enärus
Analyst, Swedbank

Okay. That's useful. A related question then on what we should expect on the R&D uptick and the sales and marketing going into the second half. I presume that your reported R&D will go up as a result of assumed R&D cost as well.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Yes, it should continue to tick up in the second half. We don't expect it to be dramatic, but it will be there. Same also for SG&A. Part of the driver, of course, is as we talked about, the shared costs with Biogen for Alprolix and Elocta, but also the second half will see a higher degree of activity, not only for the Kineret Still's and gout trials, but also importantly for the manufacturing campaigning to prepare for first in-human dosing for SOBI003, which is progressing really well. As the pipeline continues to build, we will make some investments behind those when the risk and the reward equation for each program merits it.

Johan Enärus
Analyst, Swedbank

Okay. The tax effect is obviously an effect of this moving into planned amortization. Should we expect this to go back to normal run rate straight away, or should we expect a drift on that side?

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

We made the conscious decision to take the full impact of the change in Q2, so you'll see a concomitant decrease in Q3 and Q4 to allow us to arrive on a full year basis in the low 20s.

Johan Enärus
Analyst, Swedbank

That's very useful. Anything on the strategy on complementary partnerships or products that you're considering?

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

I can just say that we are very focused at the senior level. The organization is totally focused on execution, but the senior team now is spending significant time looking at M&A and partnering opportunities to bolster our mid- and late-stage pipeline. We've become very capable to launch additional products in early 2018 and beyond. Those are the kinds of assets that we're most focused on right now.

Johan Enärus
Analyst, Swedbank

Thank you very much.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Yeah, thanks, Johan.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Lars Scheving of Danske. Go ahead, sir, your line is open.

Lars Scheving
Analyst, Danske

Thanks. Could you just comment upon the cost of goods figure that you booked for the second quarter at SEK 404 million? Did that reflect any particular inventory buy-in, or is it the standard run rate, so to say, reflecting where you are in the launch phase for the two products? That's one question. The other question is on the timing of the road map here. You're mentioning in the slides that you see this as within a year's perspective or so. Is it fair to assume that, when we were in mid 2017 or so, that you should have a decent coverage, reimbursement coverage in countries such as parts of the U.K., France, et cetera? Is that a reasonable timeframe to assume?

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Lars, let's start with your first question about the margin. The SEK 404 million that you're referring to, where are you focused there?

Lars Scheving
Analyst, Danske

If that figure-

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Is this the total cost?

Lars Scheving
Analyst, Danske

Yeah.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Yeah.

Lars Scheving
Analyst, Danske

If that figure reflects any particular inventory buy-in or is it standard cost for normal purchasing?

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Yeah. Thank you. There is no particularly significant inventory shift in the quarter. If anything, inventories are a little bit on the low side because our revenues came in quite strong at the end of the quarter. I think the costs are relatively standard in that I think that the shift that's most relevant in the COGS line is related to mix. We had relatively higher Kineret and partner product revenues in the quarter and relatively lower orphan revenues in the quarter. That's what's accounting for the relatively lower margin once you back out the credits. Did I get your first question, Lars?

Lars Scheving
Analyst, Danske

Yeah. That's fine.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Did I understand that second one correctly that you're asking by mid-year 2017, we're on a pretty standard run rate with respect to reimbursement for Elocta?

Lars Scheving
Analyst, Danske

Yeah.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Yeah, I think that's exactly right. We would expect that the markets that will drive roughly 80% of the opportunity will be fully online from a pricing and reimbursement perspective by the end of the year 2016. Obviously, only Germany will really be in a full run rate situation by then because we will have not only had the full pricing and reimbursement foundation in place, but also penetration of all of the relevant centers. That process will be in an earlier stage for markets like France, Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden, and the U.K. The run rate will continue to ramp all the way through 2017. If you ask me when we'll be in a place where we have a relatively stable commercial foundation for launch, I think that's more like the beginning of 2018.

Lars Scheving
Analyst, Danske

For mid 2017 and onwards you can say that your target, say it's 80% of your target market. That's a reasonable timeframe?

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

I think that's absolutely right.

Lars Scheving
Analyst, Danske

Mm-hmm. Thank you.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Yeah, thanks, Lars.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Richard Kärr of Sobi. Go ahead, sir, your line is open.

Richard Kärr
Manager, Investor Relations, Sobi

Hi. Our question on the pricing. How is the pricing so far for the hemophilia drugs? Where you have been able to get reimbursement, what is your strategy there? Do you see any pressure to lower the prices given the high price points of these drugs?

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Well, first of all, thanks for the question, Richard. I think there's definitely pricing pressure on this as well as all "high-priced" drug categories across Europe. We have a significant advantage here in the sense that hemophilia is a ring-fenced financial commitment in every market in our territory, almost. That means that we're not trying to convince governments to come up with new money, but rather entering existing pools with our product. In that sense, we have taken the approach of trying to make these next generation products broadly available for the mainstream or bulk of patients. As a result, we have not undertaken a very high premium priced type of strategy. Not surprisingly, I think payers are responding in a positive way. They understand that they can support broad switching of patients without getting exposed to a huge change in their budget commitment.

I think broadly speaking, we've been very pleased with what we've heard from payers and the prices that we've been able to secure, although we haven't been surprised. We've been working and speaking with payers over the last three years to understand how they would see this category, and I think their behavior now is very consistent with what we've heard.

Richard Kärr
Manager, Investor Relations, Sobi

Okay. Is there a difference? With Elocta, you're the first long-acting out, but with Alprolix, you're seeing the competition from Idelvion. Does that make a difference on the pricing?

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

It's a great question. It is fascinating because, on the one hand, we get a real benefit from having been in this dialogue with payers for so long on both products, of course, but we've just been through the reviews for Elocta. In that sense, we're very well-known, and I think we've had a very positive interaction around Elocta. The pricing and the dosing of each of Alprolix and ADYNOVATE are quite different. If you really look into the labels and the regimens, you'll quickly understand that pricing is not straightforward here for these products. I think we feel that we're very well-positioned because of the depth of real-world data that we're able to bring to bear in the discussion with payers to support our pricing approach there.

It's too early to tell how it will play out, but we feel quite good about where we are set up.

Richard Kärr
Manager, Investor Relations, Sobi

Okay. Thank you.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Yeah. Thanks, Richard.

Operator

Thank you. We have a follow-up question from Erik in Carnegie. Go ahead, sir, your line is open.

Erik Hultgård
Analyst, Carnegie

Yes, hi again. A couple of follow-ups, if I may. First, could you give us some more color on when we could expect reimbursement in France and Italy? Will it be in the third quarter or more into the fourth quarter? Secondly, I know it's very early days for Alprolix, but do you have any intel or any input regarding the market share or number of patient starts from Alprolix versus the CSL drug in Germany? Thank you.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Okay. I'll take a crack at those, Erik. We feel fairly confident that both France and Italy will come in in Q3. Obviously anything can happen, but we're in quite advanced discussions with both, so we're not guessing. We're very close to final in both geographies. For Alprolix, in terms of market share, we're not aware of any first sales for Idelvion yet, but of course, we don't have perfect insight, so we're really way too early to have a sense of how shares might develop there yet.

Erik Hultgård
Analyst, Carnegie

Perfect. Thank you.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Yeah. Thanks, Erik. Mark, I think we have time for one or two more questions here.

Operator

The penultimate question is from Guy Martin of The Pharma Letter. Go ahead, sir, your line's open.

Guy Martin
Deputy News Editor, The Pharma Letter

Afternoon, gentlemen. Yeah. I've just got a general question actually about reimbursement, and it's more or less been answered now, but I was just going to ask because it's quite a big issue in pharma at the moment, and lots of companies have spoken about their frustration with getting payers to agree. I don't know if that's been your experience at all. It sounds like your experience has been quite positive in your interactions with payers. I don't know if you've had any frustrations at all generally with your products.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Well, it hasn't all been unicorns and cinnamon. That's true. On the other hand, I think there's probably very few chairs to sit in that are as difficult as being in the payer's chair. You want to get the best for your citizens, but it's a tough budget environment, and it's often not so easy to predict how new products will come in. I would say our experience so far has, on balance, been very positive, and mainly because we have been speaking with payers so long about these product launches that there haven't been any surprises for the payers, and I think likewise for us. The real benefit of that approach has been we haven't had any real surprises either. We have had some challenges and some difficult discussions, but so far, the results of those discussions have been quite good.

Guy Martin
Deputy News Editor, The Pharma Letter

Okay. That was it from me. Thank you very much.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Thanks, Guy. I always wanted to say unicorns and cinnamon on an earnings call, now my day is complete.

Guy Martin
Deputy News Editor, The Pharma Letter

You're welcome.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

I got to be CFO, I got to say that. Yeah. Thank you.

Operator

Okay. Our final question comes from Sameer Badiani of RX Securities. Go ahead, sir, your line is open.

Sameer Badiani
Analyst, RX Securities

Okay, thanks. Afternoon, everyone. Just a couple of questions from my side. I think on the last quarter's call, we were speculating at that time about the spin-off of the hemophilia franchise by Biogen. I was wondering now that, obviously, that's a bit more official, whether you might want to comment a little bit more. I think at that time you talked about it being a bit too much of a bite size, but I'm wondering whether you've had any other thoughts on potentially restructuring that deal with them. If not, are there any changes in the liabilities should somebody else acquire that business? Just a small question on Kepivance. Maybe you could just give us a bit more details on why that was withdrawn from the European market in terms of marketing.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Okay, great. I'm glad you got on the call, Sameer. I was wondering if we had lost you out here. Let me take a crack at both, and Alan can add some color as well if needed here. With respect to the spin, I think that's gathering momentum. We're in very close contact and dialogue with them about it. I think on balance, we feel very positive about it. It will create a really dynamic, very focused company that depends totally on survival for performance in this area, and I think that's something that we can really recognize and align with. As an entity, they will be relatively similar in size to us. We're feeling like the spin on balance is really a positive. It doesn't lead to any meaningful restructuring of the relationship.

It's a pretty linear transition of the collaboration across to the new company. We don't see any negatives or anything there that will be disruptive. Of course, the nature of the spin is to prepare for and execute a public offering. At this point, it's just too early to understand how that will perform and be valued. We'll pay attention to that as things evolve later this year. Kepivance is just a very straightforward commercial reasons decision in Europe. The label had become so relatively narrow and usage has become so niched that we felt we could continue to support those few centers who are working with Kineret on an individual physician basis without supporting a broad approval. We decided in the end to withdraw it for commercial reasons.

We did so at the end of April of this year and the procedure has gone very smoothly.

Sameer Badiani
Analyst, RX Securities

That's great. Thanks very much.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Yeah. Thanks, Sameer. Mark, is there anybody desperately waving or are we in a good place to wrap up here?

Operator

We still do have further questions if you want to take any more.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Well, we have a couple more minutes. Let's take at least one more, maybe two, depending how it goes.

Operator

Okay, sure. The next question comes from Richard Parkes of Deutsche Bank. Go ahead, sir, your line's open.

Richard Parkes
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Hi. Thanks for taking my follow-up. Just a clarification really. Going back to the royalty estimate on ELOCTATE U.S. sales. You said that was based on estimates from monthly reports. Wanted to clarify, is that IMS data sort of monthly reports or do you get reports directly from Biogen on a monthly basis? The second question was just on the NHS framework agreements in the U.K. I'm just wondering when final guidance for England might be completed.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Yeah. No, our royalty estimates from Biogen are based on data that's shared with us from Biogen, but it's shared in arrears, I don't want to give an overly.

Richard Parkes
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Yeah

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

precise view of how we estimate there. For the NHS, it's interesting in England, we have a framework agreement in place. It's fully agreed. Like they've done for all drugs, they've asked clinicians to write a guidance for adoption. We're just waiting for that guidance to be fully ratified and then we're ready to go. It's a little bit hard to predict. It's been predicted to be kind of weeks. Let's see. Certainly, we would expect it to be done over the summer.

Richard Parkes
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Great. Thank you.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Yeah. Thanks, Richard.

Operator

Thank you.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Let's take one more, Mark.

Operator

The final question comes from Peter Järrup of Handelsbanken. Go ahead, sir, your line is open.

Peter Järrup
Analyst, Handelsbanken

Hi, Peter. Thank you for taking my questions. Since you did such a great job on the CFO part, I thought I'd dig into some of the working capital solutions in some of your Middle Eastern countries, but I think I'll just skip on that.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Thank you, Peter.

Peter Järrup
Analyst, Handelsbanken

In France, I guess you had a positive health technology assessment on May 27, which should mean that you should have a decision there within three to six months. I know you're prominent on this on the conference call, can you confirm that you should be on the French market by Q4 of this year and also the same thing in Italy? Secondly, a split on R&D and SG&A costs. Can you give a split between first and second half of this year? Thank you. The last question, just a brief update on patent situation for Kineret and Orfadin in the U.S. and EU respectively, just as a housekeeping kind of thing. Thank you.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Sure, Peter. Thank you. I'll try to get a crack at this in our short time here, if I miss it, we'll come back offline here. I can say with fairly good confidence that both France and Italy will be in place by Q4 and we're obviously hoping and planning for an earlier establishment of reimbursement in both countries. With respect to R&D and SG&A, I would expect that SG&A will move in a relatively linear fashion, half one to half two. In other words, no significant changes. R&D, it's a little bit early to say because we'll be taking on costs when we become the MAH holder for Alprolix, I don't expect there to be a high degree of uncertainty around that. I do expect that half two will be higher than half one for R&D, it shouldn't be a massive change.

To quickly take your point about the patent estate for Kineret. The patents for the current formulation in the U.S. run until 2020 or 2021, depending on the family, and will expire during the course of 2017 in a few of our European countries. The citrate-free formulation, which has now been granted in both the U.S. and Europe, will have protection through 2032, and we would expect to manage that transition towards the end of the teens here. Orfadin is off patent in the U.S. and has been since 2013 and will come off patent in a very small handful of countries in Europe at the end of 2016, the European patent will expire in the middle of 2017 in Europe.

Peter Järrup
Analyst, Handelsbanken

Okay, just-

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

The patent protection for the liquid formulation for Orfadin will be in place until 2032.

Peter Järrup
Analyst, Handelsbanken

Okay. Just the conversion on Kineret, you say should that be complete by the end of the decade, was that what you said?

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Yes.

Peter Järrup
Analyst, Handelsbanken

Okay.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

By 2020. Yeah.

Peter Järrup
Analyst, Handelsbanken

Okay. All right. Perfect. Thank you very much.

Geoffrey McDonough
CEO and President, Sobi

Good. Okay. Thank you, Peter. Okay, Mark, I think we're at the top of the hour here. Maybe I can just reiterate my thanks to all of you for joining us for the call. If there's anybody who is in the queue who didn't get a chance to get a question across, please reach out to us during the course of the day. We're all available and very happy to connect to provide any follow-up color as always. If things occur to you in the coming days, we're available next week as well. With that, I think we can just wish everybody a great weekend and a terrific summer. Thank you, Mark, for hosting.

Operator

Thank you. This now concludes the conference. Thank you all very much for attending. You may now disconnect.