Good
morning, and welcome, everyone, to the Adecco Group Q2 2018 Results Conference Call. Presenting today, I have Alain de Haase, Group's CEO and Hans Ploest van Amstel, Group's CFO. As usual, before we begin, please review the disclaimer on Page 2 regarding any forward looking statements in this presentation. Okay, moving on. So on Slide 3, you'll see today's agenda.
We'll follow the usual format, starting with the highlights of the quarter from Alain, followed by a review of the financial performance and comment on the outlook from Hans, then back to Alain to discuss recent progress in our perform, transform, innovate agenda. And finally, we'll open the lines for your Q and A. With that, Alain, I hand over to you.
Thank you, Henrik, and good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to our Q2 2018 results investor call. I will start with a slide on the key highlights. In the Q2, underlying revenue growth decelerates modestly, but remained solid at 4%, and the mix of growth became more balanced. To be noted, in France, our largest business, we significantly outperformed the market. In North America, General Staffing returned to growth, achieving its strongest performance since the Q2 of 2015.
Also, our strong performance in permanent recruitment continues with 18% organic growth. Gross margin was 18.3%, stable year on year organically and on a reported basis. The quarter was less impacted by one off factors, which weighted on Q4 and Q1 gross margin. Temporary staffing price and mix effects had a 10 basis point negative impact. This was the same as in the Q1, showing a continuation of the slightly improved pricing environment.
EBITA margin, excluding 1 offs, was 4.5%, down 30 basis points. This is explained by our ongoing strategic investments in digital and IT, which had a 30 basis point negative impact. Lower productivity in Germany also had a negative impact of around 10 basis points, which was offset by improved productivity in other regions. Recall that we are making investments in Germany to strengthen our recently merged general staffing brands, Adecco and Tuya. In June July, revenue trends remain in line with the 2nd quarter with growth of 4%.
We are on track with our investments in the innovation and the transformation agenda. In July, we announced the sale of our stake in Beeline, illustrating our disciplined approach to managing our business portfolio and realizing significant value for all shareholders. Indeed, after tax proceeds are expected to be more than €170,000,000 which will be used to support the group's ongoing digital investments. Also in Q2, we completed the acquisition of Jovo Assembly, a leader in digital skills education, which significantly strengthens our workforce transformation offering. And we are very pleased by the positive reaction of our clients to this partnership.
And with this, I hand over to Hans for more insights on the financials performance.
Thanks, Helene. We will now discuss the financial performance in more detail, starting with our revenue growth. Revenue growth slowed modestly in the Q2, but remained solid at 4% on a trading day adjusted basis. We saw a slowdown in certain European countries, notably France and Southern Europe. The return to growth in North America General Staffing helped to offset this.
The result is our growth is now more balanced across the regions. Looking at the individual regions. You can see that the growth was ahead or in line with the market with most regions, with the exception of Germany and Benelux. In our largest market, France, the underlying growth was 8%. This was solidly ahead of the market, reflecting the investments that we made and a continued strong commercial focus.
In North America, UK Islands General Staffing, revenue growth turned positive, thanks to the improvement in North America, which recorded its strongest growth since the Q2 of 2015. We're pleased to see that the changes we're making in the U. S. Are delivering strong results, and we look forward to further progress as our segmentation strategy becomes more embedded across the total business. Professional staffing in North America was stable year on year, while the UK was down.
We see good growth in most U. S. Professional brands, but overall growth was held back by our IT business, which was impacted by a reduction in volumes at a few large clients. The Brexit uncertainty continues to impact the U. K.
Market. In Germany, our growth was behind the market. While professional staffing was up high single digit, our general staffing business, which is the largest part declined. Germany general staffing results are impacted by the reorganization of the business because of the merger of our Adecco and Tuya brands. While this impacts the results in the short term, the integration will strengthen our business going forward.
In the Benelux, we're seeing the impact of analyzing some large customers' wins from 2017. In Italy and Iberia, growth remains strong, although at a lower level than in Q1 after many quarters of strong growth. Both businesses continue to deliver solid performance visavis the market. Liehekd Harrison continues to outperform peers to expand its market share. Their revenue decline was consistent with the countercyclical nature of their business.
Turning to the EBITDA margin, down 30 basis points in total, improving on the performance of Q1. Looking at the margin in more detail. Gross margin, which we'll discuss in the next slide, was stable organically. This leaves a 30 basis points reduction in the EBITDA margin coming from higher costs. This is explained by 2 factors.
First, we continue to make the right investments in Grow Together, strategic IT upgrades and our digital ventures, which had a 30 basis points impact in Q2. This impact is partly reflected in the organic SD and A increase and partly in M and A because of the investments in the 2 new ventures, General Assembly and Vetri. 2nd, the German reorganization impacted the quarter. This explains a 10 basis points decline in the total margin. We're combining our 2 general staffing brands and are making fundamental changes in the way we approach the market.
We're in the process of rolling out the segmentation, and it takes time to get the results from implementing this commercial strategy. The German general staffing reorganization will impact the results in the short term, but it's the right thing to do because it will strengthen the German business for the medium- and long term. The positive news is that the improved productivity across the rest of the group offset the impact from Germany. Let's look at the profitability at the country level. Continued strong profitability in France.
The margin was mostly explained by a reduction in the CCA rate subsidies of 60 basis points, and we're pleased with the underlying performance with operating leverage and good cost control of setting the ongoing investments in the strategic Grow Together initiatives. In North America UK Island General Staffing, we continue to build the foundation for profitable growth. This requires investment in capabilities and new content client facing tools to support the segmentation strategy and the Grow Together initiative. This impacted the margin in the 2nd quarter, but will drive productivity improvements in the second half of the year. In North America UK Ireland Professional Staffing, consolidation of battery and the IT investments reduced the margin.
The underlying margin performance remains strong, supported by a positive pricing environment due to the talent scarcity in the tight labor market. Margin was flat in Germany, Austria, Switzerland. Lower productivity in Germany was offset by a positive impact from the trading days. Panalux and Nordics was impacted by the client mix and lower subsidies in Belgium. We delivered strong profitable growth in Italy and Iberia, supported by strong operating leverage.
Japan had a good quarter, while we're making the relevant investments in new IT technology. In the rest of world, our strategy of focusing on client mix and quality of growth is delivering strong results with the EBITDA margin improving by 50 basis points. Career Transition and Talent Development was impacted by the consolidation of General Assembly, which is still in an investment phase. Let's now look at gross margin and SG and A, starting with the gross margin. Reported gross margin is flat.
M and A had a positive effect of 15 basis points, mainly due to battery and general assembly, which are high gross margin businesses. Currency had a negative 15 basis point impact, mainly driven by a weaker U. S. Dollar and Japanese yen. The organic gross margin was stable.
Permanent recruiting had a 20 basis points positive impact. Career Transition had a negative 15 basis point impact with Uber including outsourcing positive at plus 10 basis points. This leaves a 15 basis point reduction in the TAM gross margin. We had a 10 basis point positive impact on the favorable timing of bank holidays in Germany and the other regions where we operate a bank's business model. This leaves the underlying TAM gross margin down 25 basis points.
CCA had a negative 15 basis point impact. The remaining net 10 basis points is driven by pricing and mix. The pricing and mix trend was the same as in the Q1 and continues to run at an improved trend compared to 2017. On SG and A. SG and A was flat sequentially and increased 7% organically year on year.
As in the Q1, the base effect was challenging with organic SG and A growth of only 2% in Q2 of last year. Our FTE productivity improved this quarter with 5% organic gross profit growth supported by a 3% headcount increase investments in strategic initiatives, including the rollout of new IT infrastructures and the investments in the Groupe Digital Ventures portfolio has a 3% impact on SG and A. Turning to cash flow. Average cash conversion was 78% over the last four quarters. DSO was 53 days, similar to Q1 2018 versus 51 days last year.
Net debt was €1,600,000,000 at the end of June 2018 compared to 1,100,000,000 at the end of March 2018. Net debt to EBITDA, excluding one offs, was 1.4x at the end of June compared to 1x at the end of March 2018 and 0.8 at June 30 last year. The year on year increase was driven by acquisitions, higher dividend payments and the completion of the 2017 share buyback. Seasonally stronger free cash flow and the proceeds from the sale of our stake in Beeline will reduce net debt in the second half. We're in a position to accelerate the €150,000,000 share buyback program versus what we had communicated at the end of the Q1.
Turning to the outlook. Revenues in June July were up 4% organically and trading day adjusted. In Q3 2018, we do not foresee any significant one off effects on the group gross margin. We're on track to deliver the €50,000,000 grow together productivity savings in the second half. Back to Alain to talk about our strategic and operational progress.
Thank you, Ants. And indeed, let's have a look now at our strategic and operational progress during this Q2. At the end of July, we announced the sale of our remaining equity interest in the VMS platform IQNB line. The transaction is expected to close during the Q3, and it will result in after cash cash after tax cash proceeds of approximately EUR 172,000,000 with a gain on sale of around EUR 100 and €10,000,000 Recall that in December 2016, we merged Beeline with private equity owned IQN to create the leading independent vendor management system provider. We received USD 130,000,000 in cash and loan notes and retained a 43% stake in the combined business.
At that time, we recognized that synergies for Beeline within the Adeco Group had become limited, and we decided that more value could be created for our shareholders by merging Beeline with IQN. It is now clear that this was the right decision. Pretax proceeds from the disposal of Beeline will total more than €300,000,000 and the total gain on sale will be more than 2 100 €1,000,000 That represents a very good result for shareholders for an asset that made only a modest contribution to group earnings in 2016 before the consolidation and on which we recognized no earnings in 2017. It also illustrates our commitment to disciplined capital allocation and portfolio management. And while we are talking about portfolio management, let's speak now about our recent acquisition of General Assembly.
General Assembly is a leader in digital skills transformation and officially joined the group on the 31st May 2018. We are very pleased with the positive response from our clients with many wanting to explore the enhanced workforce transformation possibilities that our combined business can now offer. A number of joint meetings with clients have already taken place, and we see confirmation that substantial synergies exist, particularly with LeAct Harrison and with MODIS, our IT and Engineering Professional Staffing and Solutions brand. General assembly expertise also further reinforced our thought leadership and our ability to offer clients innovative solutions for the changing world of work. Coming now to the concluding messages.
In the Q2, we saw a modest slowdown in revenue growth, but also more balanced broad based growth. In our largest country, France, we strongly outperformed the market. In the U. S, our general staffing business is back to growth with its best performance since the Q2 2015, reflecting the investments that we made in 2017. Our permanent recruitment growth continued at 18%.
And this trend continues in June July with revenues growing 4% organically and trading days adjusted. While our margin was negatively impacted by investments in our strategic initiatives and challenges in our German Staffing business, we saw improved productivity in most regions. And we continue to invest in the transformation and digitalization of the group, while also focusing on operational performance. On the performance side, we focus on driving profitable growth while making the right investments. In our Transform agenda, Grow Together is building momentum and is on track to deliver €50,000,000 productivity savings this year and €250,000,000 in 2020.
Grow Together initiatives are already helping to improve reporting efficiency, sales effectiveness and also our back office processes. As example, we have the deployment of chatbots, client and candidate portals and a new integrated front office system and the digitization of the timesheet processing. Our innovate agenda was strengthened with the acquisition of Joro Assembly, which is a key differentiator for the Adeco Group. The reaction from clients confirms that our approach is the right one to address talent scarcity and also the need for workforce transformation that the changing world of work brings. To finish, I would like to thank all of our worldwide colleagues for their commitment and engagement.
And I thank you for your attention. And before we open the line for your questions, I would like to remind you that we will host an investor seminar in London on the 19th September. And for sure, we would be delighted if you would join us. And now we open the line for the questions.
We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question comes from the line of Alain Oberhuber from MainFirst.
Just two questions from my side. Regarding the guidance, obviously, going into the next quarters, the base effect is obviously one issue. And secondly is, do we also see some negative momentum? And if so, in which markets have we seen this negative momentum sequentially? And the second question is regarding the gross profit margin development.
Could we expect also higher gross margins coming through, particularly because of the German development? And within that, how much do you expect CEC will impact fully this year? And in that as well, what do you expect for next year regarding CICE or a similar new model in France, which could be present by the end of this year?
There are many questions. And I suggest I start with the guidance, then Hans can go to the gross profit margin, and then I can elaborate on the sales here. So regarding your point of growth and the 6 first of all, when we'll you look in details at the 6 of the first quarter versus the 4th of the second quarter, these are rounded figures. If you look in details, we had about 5.5 in the first quarter and 4.4% in the second quarter. So we speak about a kind of deceleration of 110 basis points.
That's point 1. 2nd, when we look at the economic outlook, you look at the macro, they're all remaining good, including when we look at the buying pattern behavior of our customers, this stays robust. Now going in all figures. Yes, there was a kind of moderate slowdown in certain European markets in Q2. First, you see Italy and Iberia.
Still, I would say, normalized growth because Italy, it's all 8th quarter of double digit growth, and we are entering there in a kind of flow of normalized growth, the same for Iberia. For sure, in France, we had a weak month of May because of a combination of the holidays and also the strikes. But I would say the good things there is that on the other side of the ocean, we had the U. S. And there, we have been able to turn positive the Adeco general staffing business to 3% growth, which is a good news because it's the strongest or the best performance since the Q2 2015, which also proves that the recipe we have, segmentation, commercial system, a new front office that we have deployed in the U.
S. Like we have done in previous countries before, is delivering its fruits. So that's why we said it is a broad based growth. Now going into the future, the exit growth rates June, July combined is 4%. We expect this growth to continue at that sort of level.
Let's not forget, we are still mid cycle in Europe, and we have no U. S. Economy, which is very supported by tax cuts and strong employment growth, not avoiding or forgetting to mention the longer term perspective. All these megatrends are driving increased penetration rates. Our customer are looking for more flexibility.
And so we are convinced that we have this, and we will generate structural growth through the cycle.
If we turn to the gross margin, I think we saw into Q2 on CCA this year this reduction from 7% to 6%, which impacts our gross margin to be negative, impacted by 15 basis points. That we expect to continue in Q3. On the mining guidance on CCA for 2019, there is nothing new to report because next year, there will be this change from CCA to the social group. But that's in line with what we discussed in the previous calls.
Now regarding the your sub questions, Cesar, since the last quarter, we had no update or further update. And we expect, like we mentioned in the previous quarter, that this will be transformed into a kind of equivalent reduction in social charges for from 2019. We are waiting for the detailed how this social charges reduction will be distributed among the level of the salaries, which is very important for us and which could also have a positive impact for us. So unfortunately, there are still today lots of moving parts. And we have to wait for the so called budget draft flow, which will come out in September in France, to get more details on that.
That's it. So I think I cannot say more anymore.
Thank you very much, Jose and Hans.
The next question comes from the line of Chirag Bhatia, HSBC. Please go ahead.
Hi, there. I've just got two questions here. I'd like to understand the underlying operational leverage of the business a bit better. So SG and A was up 4%, of which you mentioned 3% is strategic. And I think FTEs were up 3% and branches up 4%.
So without these investment costs, do you facilitate future growth, what could the margins have been? And the second question, sorry, do you monitor what the percentage of vacancies you're failing to fill? Do you have a feeling for whether it's getting harder for Adecco to match the skills demanded with the candidates you have? Thanks.
Yes. Let me start giving some more color on the operating leverage. As we said that, and that's in the cost base, we are making the right investments for the future, and that is impacting the cost base into the Q2. And our digital ventures now are also into full swing because we added factory and general assembly. What we also so there is the investment in this quarter is in full swing.
The good news is on the investments that in the second half, we will bring the first €50,000,000 of Grow Together Savings, which will drive our operating leverage and performance. If you look into the quarter at the underlying operating leverage, we drove 5% improvement in gross profit from a 3% improvement in headcount. So we have seen operating leverage into the quarter. You have to remember that's on the back of a very strong productivity in Q2 last year because recall in Q1, Q2 last year, we drove very strong operating leverage. So we drove on top of that with a 3% headcount increase, a 5% gross profit.
We did that while we're making the investments in the U. S. On our segmentation strategy, which is driving growth and will drive the results, while we're investing in France with a very strong margin to deliver strong growth, and we have the drag from Germany. And that's all in that operating leverage.
Now regarding your questions about the percentage vacancies, it is clear like in country like the U. S, it gets harder to find candidates. But we are helped or it helps on 2 things. First of all, is that we are getting more pricing power and negotiation power because we translate these efforts We are spending in price increase. That's point 1.
And second, we are also and especially in the U. S, we are putting technology at work. That's, for example, why we have put Maya at work in the U. S. At around 70 customers now So that this prescreening outreach of the candidate is fully automated, 24 hours per day, 7 days per week, allowing to work on our efficiency and productivity.
So these are the two points on the vacancy.
Thank you. Thanks.
The next question comes from the line of Hans Plager from Kepler Cheuvreux. Please go ahead.
Yes. Good morning, gentlemen. A few questions from my side. First of all, on the U. S, could you give some indication or splits on what the increase in general staffing is from volumes and that's your guys' wage?
And secondly, on Italy, of course, you had with some new coalition, some implications maybe for the labor market. Do you have already some more detail on the new legislation and what the impact could be for your operations in that country? And then going towards the strategic investment, 30 basis points impact, so slightly higher than initial guidance. Can you give us some more flavor on what's the reason behind that? And secondly, what do you expect going forward?
Should we expect more investments in that in also next year and H2? And lastly, on amortization and depreciation, it was up sequentially somewhat also year on year. Were there some one offs in there related to write downs, so towards related to the restructuring cost? Could you have some feeling on that?
Yes, many questions. You start, Hans, with the U. S. Let me
start with the U. S. The good thing, I think in general, staffing, we as I said, we had a good quarter, and I think the investments we're making paying off. It's helped with a little bit wage inflation, around 2%, 3% depending on the area. So that shows that, that's helped.
It is still low in general staffing. On professional staffing, which helps the margin, it was a little higher. It was around 3%, 4%. On the strategic investments, you're right. In Q1, we were a little bit off our guidance in Q2.
We're back to the guidance. We better understand now that we are in full investments. It's a little higher than we guided in the Investor Day. And the reason why that is, is that the transitioning into this old legacy based systems, little also to this digital world, the integration costs, some of the transition costs into that was a little bit more than we anticipated. We have now strengthened our process, so that is now in line with the guidance.
But that is a little more. The good news is that it's just transition cost. And the good news is that when we put the new technology in, we will deliver the productivity as we had expected. In Q3, that will impact the margin a little bit as well because we have a little bit more digital into the mix in Q3, while we have a little bit more on that transition cost on the core business also hitting the 3rd quarter. So I think versus the 25 bps we gave in the Investor Day were probably around 5 basis points higher.
So it's not it's a little more. It's not good, but we know what it is, and it was to the transition into the new world. And on your amortization question, those are related to the recent acquisitions of Nulens, VETRI and BioBridges.
Now coming to the Dignity Decree because that's the name of what the new government in Italy has approved 48 hours ago. And in this dignity degree, you have different new rules for one of them is now a shortening of the maximum duration of fixed term and temporary contract from 36 to 24 months. There is also an additional surcharge of 0.5% if you use that kind of contract. There is also a maximum prorogation of 4%. So these are the major, let's say, point in this new decree which has been improved, and that will be enforced by the 1st November of this year.
So now regarding the second part of your question, impact, it's with the visibility of today, it is quite difficult to have already a clear visibility, but it could also be positive for us. First of all, 24 months period, we have not that many mission with more than 24 months in the temporary staffing. This is point 1. So there, I see a limited impact. But I see clients who could decide to replace some workers with longer term fixed contract with temporary agency workers.
And let's not forget that this fixed term market in Italy is 4 to 5 times bigger than the temp market. So this could be also an opportunity. Flexibility in Italy will Italy, but also in the world, will remain very important given the economic and political uncertainty. And so we expect our customers to tap into the temporary solution further as the temporary staffing is the form of flexibility that provides the most protection for workers, for example, with equal pay and the other employment rights.
Well, maybe one quick follow-up on that. So are you, let's say, also thinking about taking more temps on your fixed payroll to fill in, let's say, somewhat longer term demand by some clients?
This is for sure one
of the avenue. Okay. Thanks.
The next question comes from the line of Suhasini Baranassi, Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning everyone. Just a couple of questions from me please. In France, it's very good to see the strong organic growth 8% ahead of the market. Just curious to hear what your thoughts are on what's driving it and whether it's sustainable into the second half? And second one is on the exit rate, obviously, you're running at around 4%.
What are the implications on operating leverage going into second half of the year? You've talked about productivity savings, but if this top line growth continues at the 4% levels, are you still comfortable with margin expansion in second half coming from productivity savings? Thank you.
Okay. On France. On France, 8% growth. So indeed, we are very pleased because it is also it is outperforming the market. And remember, we told you, Nasser, that we would come back in the Q1 at market.
We did it. And in the Q2, we are outperforming the market with about 400 basis points. And we are doing it, this is also very important, in a profitable way. We remain the most profitable company in among the peer group in France. The profitability went down with 70 basis points, but 60 basis point is coming from the CECO reduction from 7% to 6%.
And also, we are investing in France, and we can mitigate that through our cost control and pricing management. Now what were the drivers of this growth? The drivers were, I would say, the classical one, manufacturing, automotive, logistic, distribution. They were all at double digit growth. What was, let's say, slow growth, flat to slow growth was 2 segments, construction and retail.
The question on the second half, 4% organic growth is not 6% we started the year with. So that will have an implication on how much operating leverage you have, but that doesn't mean you don't get operating leverage. We continue to expect to improve our profitability in the second half after the decline we had in the first half. But couple of points, I think, which are very important here. 1, on Grow Together productivity savings, we're on track and we'll deliver $50,000,000 or 40 basis points into the second half, and we're pleased with the things.
And we'll lay out in the second half where and how we deliver those on the progress we're making. Offsetting that, we continue to make investments in our strategic initiatives and the digitalization of the group. As we said in Q2, we invested a little bit more in our IT and the data as for the reasons I mentioned before. And we'll see the total strategic initiative impact this quarter at around 30 basis points. I would expect that Q3 will still be a little higher at around 40 basis points.
So Q3 will be impacted by the investments. And that's, as I said, a little above where we want to be for these additional transition costs from the legacy world to the digital world. But the good news is grow together will come true. So I think that's also important. And last but not least, what will be the transformation of our German business will be remaining a little bit a drag on our growth and profitability in the second half because we're making all the right changes in Germany.
We're confident that we're doing the right things. But given the size of the chains, that takes us a little longer, and that will be a drag. And as we said, in Q2, we drove good operating leverage while we made these investments and had the yield on drag.
Understand. Just a quick follow-up then, because consensus is probably looking for 4.7% margins for this year, which implies some margin expansion in second half of the year, include maybe flat on Q3, little bit up on Q4. So it sounds like what you're saying is that Q3 is probably still going to see a decent impact from the strategic investments, which will offset those productivity savings and maybe it's Q4
weighted. Is
that fair? I could give a couple of account comments. The world is offshore visibility. That's the nature of our business, I think. A couple of points, I think.
Maybe I'll give on Q3, a little bit more what's happening. If you look at the gross margin in Q3, M and A will continue to be positive at around 30 basis points because we get them full in, which is great because it shows that we have new businesses which adding higher value to the customers and are in an investment phase with our good gross margin businesses. Between permanent recruiting and outplacement, you see the offset, the plus and the minus, and we'll see CCA in gross margin having a minus 15 basis points impact. And I think if you then add what we have seen into pricing and mix in the first half, that gives you some more color how you can link that gross margin. I would say on Q3, the sequential growth of the SG and A, I would say, would be plus 1% because we still have in Q3 the investments we discussed.
So that gives you a little bit of color on the Q3.
That's very clear. Thank you.
The next question comes from the line of Tom Sykes, Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.
Yes. Good morning, everybody. Just following up on that last point. Is it possible to say ballpark, how much of the Grow Together savings are actually taking out cost? And how much are just not putting cost in if you're growing and would be considered productivity gains?
On the issue of temp to perm fees, is it possible I assume you booked these into your temp gross margin, but is it possible to say what the growth of temp to perm fees and how significant they are at the moment, please? And then on the cash flow, the CapEx has obviously been very high in H1, I think around about 90%. I just wondered if it's possible to split out how much of that might be software systems related And how much is sort of other fixed assets? And whether there's any internally developed software costs that are going on to the balance sheet there, please?
Sal, I maybe start with Grow Together. We will deliver operating leverage, and we will structurally, as we always said, with Grow Together, improve the productivity of the business. And that will be in 3 areas, which are our main activities. Three main activities is from time capture to invoice, our recruiting processes and our sales progresses. And the $50,000,000 we will deliver will be from in those three areas.
And we'll when we announce Q3 and Q4, we'll be specifically showing you how that will impact our business. But in the U. S, we have rolled out new form of solutions, which are impacting the margin now, and we will see productivity from those new systems in the second half. In France, with the new candidate portals and also with our new the investments we have been making, we'll see a higher level of productivity. And then we're digitalizing across the world countries.
So you see that we will see an acceleration of operating leverage, which is fueled by the Grow Together program. Before I might give some more color on the term to Permases, The cash CapEx is higher. We expect for the year around SEK 120,000,000. Yes, there's always some software development costs in CapEx. We are working with large partnerships.
So we're not developing our own software, but that doesn't mean with Salesforce or Microsoft, we need to develop the solution using their technology. So the technology is from well established global players like Infosys and also developing the ADIA tools. But the development of that is our software, and that's good because it's our technology leveraging global suppliers.
Now regarding your question to about tend to perm, Tom, where we see a real substantial increase of tend to perm activities is in the U. S, especially in the general staffing activities because there is a tendency of trends also to hire faster the people. It has been in the media. Nevertheless, when you look at our performance, strong performance on the perm and 18%, first of all, this performance is really global based. We see a strong performance in every part of the world, being in Japan, more than 25%, being in Europe and being in the U.
S. And also, this perm is coming, yes, from one part, from the general staffing, but especially from the brands the specialized brands we have launched years ago in the Professional Recruitment, Spring and Badenoc and Carre. And we have really very good success with these brands globally in all the countries where we are active with these brands.
Okay. Thank you very much for that. Just to be clear though, so if somebody is sort of 6 months in and working and then on a temp basis and then they get converted and you get a fee for that, you are actually booking that into your perm revenues as opposed to putting those in your temp revenues. And say that will not affect your gross margin. I thought it was actually booked in temp revenue, so affecting the temp gross margin.
That's basically the essence of the point is how much might those conversions be affecting the temp margin?
Yes, yes. I understand. No, no. To input on this, if we would indeed have temp on temporary staffing, So the margin will be booked in temporary staffing. And if we would get a fee for a perm transaction following the temporary staffing, it would be booked in the perm business.
Now you're now also one of the especially with large customers, one of the a lot of agreement we have is that we pay ourselves through the temporary staffing. So it's not that always we get and the temporary staffing and the fee. The temporary staffing is also paying the firm fee.
Okay. Thank you. Sorry to be a bit of a dog with a bone, but is it just possible to say broadly approximately what percentage of sales or gross profit and the level of change that we're seeing there? Because obviously, some players particularly in the
States to say
it's it.
Okay.
It's not really material. We don't see a material shift. If your question is, do we see a material shift from temp to perm, we don't.
Okay.
All right. I'll leave it there. Thanks very much.
Thank you, Tom.
The next question comes from the line of Michael Voet from Vontobel. Please go ahead, sir.
Yes. Hi, gentlemen. Three questions. One regarding France, you already elaborated which segments your growth came from mainly. But I was wondering if there are any particular larger client wins that explain the outperformance versus peers and which would then also make that outperformance sustainable into the coming quarters?
That would be the first question. The second question is, if you could just explain the strong growth in Switzerland. Is that in line with the market or anything particular that happened there on your side? And the third question is North America General Staffing, the reacceleration, if you could give some color also here, which segments in particular that came from? Thank you.
Okay. Regarding France, no. There is no particular customer wins or which would influence significantly our performance and our growth. No. It's really very broad based according to the growth I've given by segment.
So no, nothing special to mention that. Switzerland, I think Switzerland, I would like to reflect a little bit because remember, more than 2 years ago, Switzerland was a very difficult market for us. And we did 4 things. We started by changing the leadership. Then we put in place the segmentation, meaning treating differently large customer from small and medium, the on-site offer.
Then we put in place our commercial system under so called CCPM. This has been rolled out. And we also changed the commercial front system. And we are very happy that to see that, yes, after having put our classical recipe in Switzerland, we are reaping the benefits of what we have applied in other countries. We have applied that in France.
We have applied that in Italy, in Spain. We are now applying it in the U. S, and we are also in the process to apply it in Germany. So that's why we did what we did. Now coming to North America General Staffing.
Please remind me your question.
Yes, just which industries are primarily driving that?
We've seen the hard to speak a little bit. The improvement we're seeing in the U. S. Is driven by also the segmentation strategy. So we see that we're gaining across more sectors growth.
So that is a more sustained level of growth from the investments we have been making with this segmentation strategy. And then yes.
Yes. Any particular industry verticals like logistics or
Yes. We see technology doing good. We see consumer goods, automaties, manufacturing. We are at low level. You have seen 3%.
But these ones are, let's say, stable to up single digit, where we have more down double digit, it's Medical and Healthcare. But that's the overview.
The next question comes from the line of George Gregory from Exane. Please go ahead.
Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Just a couple, please. Hi. If we start with just the going back to the Q2 EBITDA margin bridge, just digging into it in a little bit more detail to clarify the moving parts.
So it looks like price mix in CICE were negative 25 basis points. You've articulated strategic was net negative 30 basis points. It looks like working days was a positive 10 basis points. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that sums to a negative 45 basis points. Just be clear, it would be good to split out the remaining positive 15 basis points between productivity and anything else, please?
That's my first question.
Yes. We got 2 things. 1, we got operating leverage in the balance of the business, Recall, because within that, we have Germany as well. And we have the gross margin was stable because we had positive impact from outsourcing and the net balance between the perm business and LSH was slightly positive this quarter. So we got some offsets in the gross margin, and we got the operating leverage offsetting it.
So the plus 15 basis points you would consider to be what net positive leverage?
Yes, Because as I said, we have around, if you're including Germany, which is a drag, we have a 2% improvement in the sales and gross profit per FTE. And again, that comes on top of a very strong Q2 of last year.
Okay. Okay. Because it looks like there were a few other when we look at the gross margin bridge, I mean, M and A was a positive perm was a positive, but you think there was an underlying 15 basis points productivity improvement in Q2. Okay. Just secondly, just on CICE.
I think there's already been some guidance on the distribution of the payroll tax cuts across salary bands. And as far as we understand it, at least the payroll tax cuts are unlikely to fully compensate for the loss of tax deductibility next year. It'd just be useful to get your best current take on that, given that I think most people consensus are assuming that it's going to be neutral next year. So what's your sort of best take? I appreciate it's not been fully formalized yet.
No, it has not fully formalized. So what has been said by the French government is that it should be we should nobody should lose out of the compensation and the transformation of the CCO in social charges reduction. But what is not clear today is how the social charges reduction will be distributed by level of salary because there will be different level of reduction according to the level of salary. This is point 1. And to compensate potentially higher tax, they would also put they would also increase these social charges.
But all these details have not been confirmed, and that's why we need this draft law in September, the draft law for 2019, to have more details on that. But I can I think that we have as the biggest private employer in France, we have we are rather good informed, but this is the stage of the information we have?
Okay. So too early to be able to say whether it would be neutral or negative. Okay. And sorry, just Hans, just going back to the margin bridge there and thinking about Q3, Q4, talked about margin improvement in the second half. Just to clarify, should we expect Q3 to be a more of a stable profile given the ongoing strategic investments?
Or within that, could Q3, pardon me, still be slightly down?
We will see an improvement in the margin trend versus what we see today. When we look at Q3, we need to take still a couple of points into account, which we pointed out. And that is that we have that higher level of investments, which we discussed during the call, flowing through into the cost of Q3, and we expect sequentially versus this quarter SG and A in total to be up around that 1%.
Okay. Thank you very much.
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