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Earnings Call: Q1 2023

May 10, 2023

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Q1 Qualitative Update Conference Call and Live Webcast. I am Sandra, the Chorus Call operator. I would like to remind you that all participants will be in listen-only mode, and the conference is being recorded. The presentation will be followed by a Q&A session. You can register for questions at any time by pressing star and one on your telephone. For operator assistance, please press star and zero. The conference must not be recorded for publication or broadcast. At this time, it's my pleasure to hand over to Mr. Pierre-Alain Ruffieux, CEO. Please go ahead, sir.

Pierre-Alain Ruffieux
CEO, Lonza Group

Thank you, Sandra. Good morning, good afternoon, and welcome to our first quarterly qualitative update. As you will recall, we have scheduled this meeting to have a touchpoint between our half year and full year financial reporting. They are intended to provide a general business overview, so we will not be discussing our financial performance today. As usual, we will share our full financial update during our half year call on July 21st. Today, I will start by sharing a view of the overall group and our macroeconomic context, then provide a short update on each division. After that, our CFO, Philippe Deecke, and will be answer any question you have. Let me start by saying that our group performance after the first three months is in line with the trajectory we expected.

This means we are confirming our outlook 2023 at high single-digit constant exchange rate sales growth and a CORE EBITDA margin of 30%-31%. As we forecasted when we reported our full year results in January, we anticipate a strong second half of the year balancing a softer H1. Let's now take a moment to look at our macroeconomic context. In Q1, we have seen a number of macroeconomic factors influencing our business in different ways. In line with the wider industry, we are observing soft demand for early-stage services and capacity, driven by constraints in biotech funding. We began to see this in 2022, and the banking crisis early this year has continued to limit access to capital for biotech. However, commercial supply makes up around 70% of Lonza's CDMO business, and here we continue to see a strong interest.

Turning to our growth projects, we are making good progress with CapEx spending being on track. We are also pleased to have started operation in two new facility in Visp for fill and finish and bioconjugates. We were happy to see that FDA approved the first oral live biotherapeutics from Seres Therapeutics. The scale-up of this novel therapy will be supported by Bacthera or joint venture with Chr. Hansen. Let's take a look at each of our division. In Biologics, we see strong underlying sales growth versus Q1 2022, excluding the prior year Allakos termination fees and mRNA sales. There is a lower demand for early-stage offering driven by biotech funding constraints, but we see solid demand for long-term, large-scale program across mammalian, microbial, and antibody-drug conjugates. This is supported by advanced commercial discussion with large pharma and well-funded large biotech.

Weaker performance in China is driven by low interest from our international customer and a challenging local market. Looking at our growth project in Q1, in Visp, the tech transfer for the first commercial product of a new drug product line is ongoing, and we have completed an extension of our conjugation facility. We also commenced the construction of a new CHF 500 million commercial drug product facility in Stein. Finally, in January, we mentioned two growth projects that were delayed by a couple of quarters. Since we updated the schedules in 2022, the projects are now continuing to progress as planned. In Small Molecules, a solid Q1 builds on the momentum of H2 last year. This is supported by good demand visibility. While industry funding challenges have caused a slight decrease in inquiries, the number of new customer signings remain consistent with previous year.

We are also pleased to see a continuing portfolio shift to more high value and complex small molecule. Let's now turn to the Cell & Gene Division. In Bioscience, sales growth is aligned with expectation and driven by good demand and pricing power. In cell and gene therapies, the biotech funding challenges has impacted preclinical and phase I demand. This has led to a reduction of new inquiries and placed pressure on margin and growth in Q1. Nonetheless, we remain committed to this space, which continues to hold strong long-term commercial potential. In the Capsules & Health Ingredients division, we have seen continuing strong demand for pharma capsules. We are also pleased with the progress on pricing, which has allowed us to mitigate some of the increase in the price of gelatin, a key raw material for our capsule business.

Excess manufacturing capacity has been driven by lower demand for nutraceutical in the US as customers reduce their inventories ahead of a potential economic downturn. This means that the division saw some pressure on top and bottom line in Q1. In January, we announced our intention to start a share buyback. As planned, the program commenced early April and is currently scheduled to complete in H1 2025. The buyback is executed via a second trading line on the Swiss Exchange. I want to confirm that we will host our Capital Markets Day on the 17th of October. This will replace our quarterly qualitative update for Q3. The event will be hosted in our site in Visp, and we will take you on a tour of our facilities.

To close, I will summarize by saying that we are in line with the expected trajectory towards our outlook 2023. As we anticipated in January, our H2 performance looks set to be stronger than H1. Looking at our industry fundamentals, we are well-positioned to capture value with our strong focus on quality, our broad range of offering, our global asset base, and our technical expertise. I would like to thank you for your attention, and I will now pass back to Sandra for the Q&A session.

Operator

The first question comes from Matthew Weston from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Matthew Weston
Managing Director and Pharmaceutical Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thank you for taking my questions. Two, please, if I can. The first is around the cadence of the first half versus the second half. You flagged that there is weakness in Cell & Gene, but also in the capsules and healthcare business. Can you tell us if that's been offset by a stronger than expected performance in the other businesses or whether or not you now need the second half of the year to be, I guess, even stronger than you previously anticipated? The second question, we've recently seen more positive data in Alzheimer's. It's always been an area for Lonza where investors have been interested about the potential for CDMO to get involved in manufacturing. Can you just update us as to where you are as to any role Lonza may play in the manufacturing of late-stage Alzheimer's drugs in the near future? Thank you.

Pierre-Alain Ruffieux
CEO, Lonza Group

Thank you, Matt. Maybe let me take the first question before handing over to Pierre-Alain for the Alzheimer question. I think, first of all, I'd like to reiterate that we are confirming our outlook for 2023, and we won't be going much deeper into the divisional mix. As we said before, Lonza is a stool with many legs, and it's not uncommon to have headwinds in different parts of the business and offsetting them in other parts. We don't necessarily need to have a strong imbalance between H1 and H2. As an entire portfolio, we're happy to reconfirm 23 knowing that we have the headwinds you mentioned before. Thank you, Philippe.

Regarding Alzheimer, I think like everybody and every patient, we were very pleased to see a second study having a significant impact on patient. I think there is known now two therapies showing efficiency. I think as you know, both therapy requires significant amount of protein, which again is going to be very positive for the industry. If you make some calculation, and here again, I would not speculate for the future, but the capacity utilization driven by these two drugs are going to be definitively in the high single-digit rates of total capacity and even without being bullish on that. Actually, we believe this will really increase the utilization rate and be positive for the industry.

I'm not going to be more specifically on any discussion with company we may have because obviously it's not for public disclosure.

Matthew Weston
Managing Director and Pharmaceutical Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

Many thanks indeed.

Operator

The next question comes from Vineet Agrawal from Citi. Please go ahead.

Vineet Agrawal
Equity Analyst, Citi

Hi, Vineet here from Citi. Thanks for taking my questions. Maybe, again, coming back to the guidance, just trying to understand if this is something that you had baked into your forecast, the softness that you have seen in certain pockets. Guess what I'm trying to understand is what biotech funding assumptions have you used for second half of 2023 and then maybe even for 2024? Do you expect the funding environment to remain fairly similar to where we are today and still confident of achieving the guidance, or does it need to improve significantly to meet those targets? Then maybe just on the same topic, on the bio-biologics early stage projects.

Can you just help us understand if this sort of impact, is it something you have started to see only recently or has the weakness been there for a bit longer now?

Philippe Deecke
CFO, Lonza Group

Yeah. Thanks, Vineet. Let me take one more stab at it. I think the. We probably all of us are looking at the same data in terms of biotech funding and early stage company funding. You've seen that this goes in waves, but you've probably seen that the overall funding is down versus prior year, probably around 30% or so on the data we are looking at. Certainly way off from the piece that we saw in 2021. Now, compared to, you know, a couple years back, we're probably just about at the same level, maybe slightly below.

In terms of what we assumed for 2023, we probably assumed to have some pickup again, which we don't see yet coming. We won't be necessarily speculating on if that's not gonna come in Q3, Q4, or maybe slightly after that. Yes, I think there is weakness in this business which is mostly visible in our Cell & Gene therapy business. So a part of our Cell & Gene division. That's certainly a place where we have the most early stage business that needs to be more frequently replenished. As Pierre-Alain said, we still believe this is a very interesting field of the CDMO business, and we will continue to be playing in that field and continue to grow in that field.

You also wanted to know the impact on Biologics. I think, as you know, our Biologics business is very different from the Cell & Gene business in the sense that it is much more commercially weighted, with over 70% of our revenues and margins coming from commercial stage business. Yes, we do have early stage business in our Biologics division. However, the impact is of course much less.

Pierre-Alain Ruffieux
CEO, Lonza Group

Thank you, Philippe. On the Biologics part, I would like to stress that at Lonza we are definitively positioned as a premium CDMO. Certainly on the Biologics part, while we see a decrease in inquiry, we still have a fair winning rate. Again, Don't play that, we see the impact more in Cell & Gene than in Biologics.

Vineet Agrawal
Equity Analyst, Citi

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from James Quigley from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

James Quigley
Executive Director and European Pharma and Biotech Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Great. Thanks for taking my question. The first one's on fill and finish and drug products. Your plant just opened up in Visp. What are your ambitions with respect to fill and finish? You've had development capabilities since around 2016, 2017. How important has that been to differentiating your offering, now that you also have larger manufacturing facilities? What are you expecting in terms of a ramp up for this plant also coming into 2026 when you have the larger scale capacity in Stein? Can you talk a little bit also about the, s orry.

The price and volumes dynamics that you're seeing across the different divisions from Biologics through to consumer nutrition. Thank you.

Pierre-Alain Ruffieux
CEO, Lonza Group

Yeah. Thank you, James, for the question. Clearly on fill and finish, I think we are overall very happy with what our progress in this business. As you recall, we started to invest a lot in formulation, having good progress on that, followed by the acquisition of capacity from Novartis for clinical manufacturing. We continue on this trend. According to that, we are really developing as we planned by building a strong base of early phase customers, getting synergies when we make a drug substance also offering the drug product offering which is really key for us. We see a lot of demand for high quality fill and finish services. We are on that one. We are happy with the development.

Regarding ramp up, ramp up is probably in the range, as we have mentioned multiple times, of two years, we are now transferring the first product. We will soon come with the next transfer, we have the classical putting the batch on stability, going for submission and getting approval. Here it's really executing according to plan. For us, to wrap up the topic, fill and finish is really a strategic decision we have made. We are investing from early development to commercial. We are making very nice progress on building our commercial facility, I would say it's fully on track. I'm not sure I fully understand your question regarding price and volume dynamics. Can you perhaps clarify it?

James Quigley
Executive Director and European Pharma and Biotech Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Sure. It's just basically asking what you're seeing in terms of price and volume, maybe across the whole portfolio. You said high single digit growth. What element of that is price for this year for the 2023 guidance versus volume? Are there any sort of areas of your business that you're seeing a greater impact on price or a more limited impact in terms of your subdivisions?

Pierre-Alain Ruffieux
CEO, Lonza Group

Thank you, Philippe wi ll take that one.

Philippe Deecke
CFO, Lonza Group

Yes, hi, James. I think first of all, I say that on the pricing front, you know, this is pretty much going as per plan. If you remember, we have two very different types of businesses. One is a more product business, which we see in our Capsules business, in our Bioscience business unit. There, of course, the pricing is easy, is easier or faster to get through and we're taking the price increase that we had planned to take, and we see actually good pickup from that. Now looking at our CDMO business, the approach is different obviously because we have a lot more long-term contracts where price is usually negotiated at the beginning of the contract and is included in the contract clause.

There as well we're making the progress we wanted by having adjusted several of the contracts price that we could adjust. It's going as per plan. We do not disclose a detailed price volume mix for the company. Again, something that we can certainly take offline, but is a very complex thing to do in a CDMO business.

Operator

Of course. Thank you very much. The next question comes from Richard Vosser from JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

Richard Vosser
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, JP Morgan

Hi. Thanks for taking my questions. First question on your growth projects. Clearly you've let us know that your equipment is in-house. How's the ramp up going there? Are those coming online a little bit faster than expected, potentially or? Yeah, how's the ramp up? Then just thinking about China, you mentioned of course, a difficult market in the local market and the multinationals not ordering at the moment. Maybe just give us a little bit more color on how you think about the timelines to that turning around. Thanks very much.

Pierre-Alain Ruffieux
CEO, Lonza Group

No, thank you, Richard. Regarding China, again, I would like to remind you of the big picture. I think Lonza is sales below 5% in China, split in three businesses. We are making capsules for the local market, and this business is doing well. We have also a chemical facility for intermediate, and is doing well. My comment was more toward the small scale disposable biotech facility we are having in China. Here again, during the pandemic, basically, none of the customer was able to fly over there. We really see a real slowdown. We are now looking at the recovery, and we will comment more later this year. For the growth project, you are correct.

I think we were getting all the equipment in-house, which were delayed. We mentioned that during the previous call. We are currently very happy with the ramp up validation and starting of operation. Basically, it's happening according to plan.

Richard Vosser
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, JP Morgan

Thank you very much.

Operator

The next question comes from Patrick Rafaisz from UBS. Please go ahead.

Patrick Rafaisz
Equity Research Analyst, UBS

Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Just a question on H1, where we had various one-off impacts last year that we need to consider or take into account, if you look at the current H1. In particular, I'm thinking about the Small Molecules business with the phasing issue. From today's point of view, do you think could something like that reoccur or are we back on normal track and we should just add back the delayed revenues into H1 from H2, just from a modeling perspective?

Philippe Deecke
CFO, Lonza Group

Yes, Patrick, let me take that one. I think we were clear last year already that the volume in H1 were moved into H2 2022. From that point of view, the year was whole for our Small Molecules divisions. Now can something like this always happen? Of course, it always happen. Currently, we don't see this repeating, so we're very confident with the performance in Small Molecules today.

Patrick Rafaisz
Equity Research Analyst, UBS

Great. Thanks.

Operator

The next question comes from Max Smock from William Blair. Please go ahead.

Max Smock
Equity Research Analyst, William Blair

Hi. Thank you for taking our questions. First one for me, and apologies if I missed this. I just wanted to confirm that the guide that you laid out for 2024, that midterm guide is still intact. I also wanted to follow up on a prior question around fill and finish. Curious if some of the issues with the major competitor that we've seen in the space and the explosion in demand that we've seen for obesity drugs, whether or not those have changed your views around capital allocation at all. Obviously know you are building out a lot internally, given the significant opportunity and the fact you pointed to a three-year ramp up time for some of these new facilities, what are your thoughts about potentially acquiring some assets that could increase your footprint in fill and finish more aggressively here near term?

Thank you.

Pierre-Alain Ruffieux
CEO, Lonza Group

Thank you, Max. Definitely, our midterm guidance is intact and is confirmed, no change at all on that. Regarding issue with competitors, you know, I think it's just underscoring the importance of quality. For fill and finish, having modern facility allowing to provide good service to customer is key. I think it's why we have decided to invest in this field, providing good quality service which is needed and having synergy with our business. Our plan has not changed. Yes, we always try to ramp up as fast as we can, but doing it the right way. There is some time that we cannot compress during ramp up. Basically, making validation batches, performing stability, as well as getting the approval of health authority.

Philippe Deecke
CFO, Lonza Group

I think, Pierre, if I can add, in terms of acquisitions, of course, we are always looking at available capacities. The reason why we decided to go organic is mainly because of the quality of assets that we see on the market, what we can do with them. Do they have the right flexibility for a CDMO business and the right quality, or do they require a lot of investment and renewed maintenance? I think we are not objected to buying capacity. We've mentioned that before that our M&A strategies are around large capacities or early technologies, but there's not a lot of good assets on the market.

Max Smock
Equity Research Analyst, William Blair

Got it. Very helpful. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Paul Knight from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Paul Knight
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Thanks very much for your time. you know, are you finding that in the Cell & Gene side of the business, the approval outlook we hear is pretty robust, very strong for 2023? Are you seeing that yourself as maybe some significant approval change globally?

Pierre-Alain Ruffieux
CEO, Lonza Group

I think we are hearing similar things. You know, these treatment are really helping patient in area where there is no other medical treatment. Generally, the success rate of clinical is high in phase III. You see good success rate, good impact on patient. We continue to see a positive outlook for that. Yes, the pipeline industry is mainly early phase. We have seen last year a couple approval we were very proud of, and we continue to work with a couple of treatments which are in late stage. We don't see any changes based on the funding.

I think the funding is more impacting, new ideas which obviously get much more face much more difficulties to get money.

Paul Knight
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. A last question would be the, we understand, in the industry that, customers approach Lonza as much as you approach them. Are you still having a lot of your expansions already largely pre-booked? What level does that pre-booking mean? Is it when you build, do you have 60% or 80% booked, or what is that trend right now?

Pierre-Alain Ruffieux
CEO, Lonza Group

Yeah. This has clearly not changed because, as we mentioned, for large asset, we want to make sure that we have the vast majority of the capacity committed before we build. We never provide an exact figure, and it can depend from asset to asset, but it's probably in the range of what you have mentioned. It's the vast majority of the capacity being booked, and this is not going to change. For early pipeline asset, obviously, you don't have pre-booking for 10 years, but we make sure we have the right pipeline of projects before committing to that. Level of risk for our asset has not changed.

Paul Knight
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Peter Welford from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Peter Welford
Senior Research Analyst, Jefferies

Thanks for hearing me. I've just got three very quick ones. Firstly, just with regards to stocking, in terms of both your levels of, I guess, consumables, et cetera, that you're using, and equally, from the customer side, how are you doing with regards to both utilizing existing stocks to perhaps return to normal pre-pandemic levels? Equally, have you seen any signs of any of your customers reducing their stocks that they have on hand? Secondly, just on Cell & Gene, I wonder if you can perhaps tease out what percentage, if any, do you think of the impact is due to clinical trial holds, failures, et cetera, rather than funding.

I guess I'm just curious, you know, do you think the vast majority of this impact is funding or actually is a sizable part also the attrition that perhaps is higher than anticipated? Finally, just on the inquiries, I heard you say that you've got a slight decrease in inquiries. Just to be clear, was that relevant to the Small Molecules business, but where you've got consistent signings overall, or was that for Biologics? I think you also mentioned a shift to higher value molecules. Thank you.

Pierre-Alain Ruffieux
CEO, Lonza Group

Yeah. Thank you, Peter, for the question. I will briefly take two of them and let the stocking for Philippe. Regarding the number of inquiry, we have seen a decrease overall of inquiry, but we still win the same number in Small Molecules, so no impact on Small Molecule pipeline. We see a small decrease also in Biologics with very little decrease, and basically the most impact is on Cell & Gene. To your question on Cell & Gene, you know, it's a dual effect. You always have a certain attrition rate due to clinical, and this has not changed. It's not better than before or worse than before. But the main difference is funding.

We still have the same failure rate in phase I as before. Obviously you get less new customer coming with new idea and new project. This is really the main reason for the decrease we see. Philippe, do you take the stocking?

Philippe Deecke
CFO, Lonza Group

Yes, Peter. On the stocking, just to reiterate what Pierre-Alain said in his introductory remarks, I think we do see inventory reductions in our Capsules customers. That's the place where you would see some correction in inventory. We do not see this in the rest of our CDMO business. That's certainly a good news. We don't see these movements. Now we are continuing to be committed to reduce our inventory. We did increase inventory levels during the COVID pandemic to ensure availability of our raw materials and ensure that we could produce the batches for customers. We've committed to reduce that level by about 1 month over the next 18 months. We're tracking onto that.

We are utilizing raw materials that were purchased earlier, and therefore, we will see a decrease in our days coverage of inventory over the next 12-18 months.

Pierre-Alain Ruffieux
CEO, Lonza Group

Clearly we are able to do so because we see a more reliable supply from the big supplier. Operators, we will take the last question.

Operator

The last question is a follow-up from Mr. Matthew Weston from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Matthew Weston
Managing Director and Pharmaceutical Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thank you. That's kind. It's a question regarding your customer concentration, actually. I noticed in the annual report that we've seen a very significant increase over the pandemic of your single largest customer from basically 5% to going up now to over 9%. I know you're gonna be very sensitive about discussing customers, but I would love to understand whether that increased concentration is something unusual associated with the pandemic, and we're likely then to see it come down as business normalizes. If you can say whether it was associated with M&A, so essentially two big customers have merged, or whether actually you're just seeing a single customer emerge and be 10% of your business, and what you can then do to mitigate that risk?

Pierre-Alain Ruffieux
CEO, Lonza Group

No, thanks for the question, Matthew. I would like to reiterate that we believe we have a very healthy base of customers. Again, 10 customers, representing 50% of the sale, with many of them, adding a multiple product. You know, we see a little of all what you have said, many of our small biotech customer get acquired one day or the other by a big pharma. This is part of the consolidation. We see it, so customer moving a product to a full commercial, so when we see big ramp up, and it could be a lot of money when it's expensive product like ADC or antibodies, so we see that.

We don't see the need to mitigate that, because as I mentioned, many customer, many product, a long-term contract, which is for us a very robust and solid base of customers.

Matthew Weston
Managing Director and Pharmaceutical Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

Many thanks indeed.

Pierre-Alain Ruffieux
CEO, Lonza Group

With that, I would like to thank all of you for the question, and thank you Sandra for hosting the call. As a final overview, we are confirming our outlook 2023. This is clearly supported by a strong industry fundamentals and a good momentum across Biologics and Small Molecules. We are looking forward to speaking to you again at our H1 results on July 21st. In the meantime, I wish you all a great day. Merci.

Operator

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