Earnings Call: H2 2019

Mar 31, 2020

Thank you to everyone who has joined us today for the SoftwareONE 2019 Results Conference Call. My name is Dieter Schlosser, CEO of SoftwareONE, and I'm here today on the phone together with Hans Grutter, our Chief Financial Officer as well as with Alex Aleksandrov, our Chief Operating Officer. It's our pleasure to have you all on our call. Thank you for joining during these extraordinary times. I hope all of you and your families are well and safe. We would like to walk you through our 2019 results, a slide presentation, which is also available on our website. I will start with a brief summary of our 2019 performance. We'll then hand over to Hans to provide some more detailed overview of our 2019 financials, and Alex will take a closer look at our growth pillars and strategy. I will then turn the outlook to the outlook and take you through how we are seeing COVID-nineteen impact on our business and what we are doing about it. We will then round off this Q and A. So let's start with the presentation. As usual, I first point you to the disclaimer on Page 2 as well as on Page 3 And we'll then go straight into the presentation on Slide 6 for those who are just on the phone. Those who have heard us during the roadshow and during other press conferences, they are pretty much aware of the following slide. If you talk about SoftwareONE, you do always talk about 3 pillars and 1 platform. I start right on the top with software and cloud. This is our line where we help our customers on a daily basis with procuring the right solutions, the right software solutions for the right price and the right location for the right terms and concession and highly automated. If you then go on to the left and to the right side, these are our 2 service pillars. On the left side is the software life cycle management. Here, we take this we take it a step further, and we help our customers to understand what they have procured, what assets they own, how those digital assets are deployed on the data centers, on the mobile devices, in the cloud and how the end user is really consuming those digital assets. On the right side, on the technology services, we define the technology roadmap with our customers. We execute those technology roadmaps and then we run them in the cloud. We have various practices. We have a future data center practice. We have a future workplace practice, particularly in the current time, that's there's high demand on the future workplace practice, but also a security practice as well as critical workloads moving SAP into the cloud and modernization of applications to cloudify them. All three pillars are integrated through our own IP, through our platform, Piracloud. Piracloud is integrating our business lines in a way that our customers have an end to end view of their complete landscape, whether it's procurement behavior, whether it's spend on cloud, whether they how they can optimize their spend on cloud, whether they have any vulnerabilities in their state, whether they can simplify the landscape, move workloads into the cloud. That is taken care by a Piragloud, something which is unique in the market, nonexistent in the complete landscape and highly consumed in our customer base. If we talk about SoftwareONE, we always talk about 3 aspects. We are in the commercial transformation as well as in the technology transformation and then finally also in the digital transformation. So the cream the icing on the cake is the digital transformation, but our customers have a need on commercial transformation as well as on technology transformation. If I then go to Slide 7, these are the key figures, how we describe SoftwareONE. SoftwareONE is 100% on focused on software and cloud. We don't do hardware. We don't do network. We don't do equipment. We don't want to be everything for everyone. We want to be the experts in the area of software and cloud and made that decision years back to be really reborn into the cloud. That has given us a customer base of 65,000 customers globally, highly diversified from a size, 50% enterprise, 50% SME, also diversified from a geography and industry, which is also very important, particularly in the current scenario. From a numbers perspective, from a results perspective, we have closed with €707,000,000 on gross profit in FY 2019, and that has led to over 2.24 million EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA with a margin which is above 30%, which is 30.3%. Yes, in the meanwhile, 5,442 employees spread around 90 countries and have done in the last 24 months completed 7 acquisitions, strategic acquisitions, acquisitions which were acquisitions of scale, acquisitions where we added capabilities, like I mentioned earlier, moving SAP into Azure and AWS or capabilities like application modernization. Our customers trust us. This EUR 13,000,000,000 of customer purchasing volume, and last but not least, we also completed the IPO in October 2019 and run SoftwareONE as a public company since then. In terms of on Slide 8, in terms of FY 2019 results, we are happy to share a solid performance and good progress with Compaq's integration in 2019, all in line with our IPO guidance. Our gross profit like for like growth is 4.3 percent in constant exchange rate, adding to SEK 737,200,000. Our adjusted EBITDA like for like is up 23.1 percent in constant exchange rates to CHF 223,600,000 with a margin at 30.3%. Our reported profit for the year is 59.9 percent up to CHF 125,000,000. Also happy to share with you that on the synergy side, we are ahead of plan. We guided the €7,000,000 We reached €10,000,000 synergies, and we are absolutely on track to reach the €60,000,000 run rate in 2021. You might recall €20,000,000 out of the €60,000,000 is on GP level and €40,000,000 is on operating expenses. Particularly important right now is our strong balance sheet and our cash flow. We have free cash flow of €192,600,000 a strong balance sheet with net cash positions of €190,700,000 and unused credit lines. And the Board is proposing to the AGM a dividend of CHF 0.21 per share. In terms of 2020, we see continued momentum with limited effects of COVID-nineteen on our financial performance. The likely impact since mid March is unclear. Developments are quite unpredictable. The moment I finish later in the presentation is an outlook and with a specific session on COVID. So I'm handing over to Hans now, who will take a closer look at the financial performance. Thank you, Jester. Also from my side, I would like to welcome you to this conference call. I'm pleased to go through the financials in more the financials 2018 2019. On the left side, you see the reported figures 2018 2019, and I would like to remember you that 2018, the reported figures comprised of the former SoftwareONE company. And in 2019, it's 12 months of the former SoftwareONE and 11 months of Comparex as we have acquired Comparex at the end of January 2019. On the reported figures, we have achieved 7.6 1,000,000,000 revenue, which is more than double than the 2018 figures reported. And on the profit for the year, we have achieved CHF 125,000,000 up from CHF 78,000,000 a year ago. More important for us and to assess the performance of the company in a much better way are the like for like figures, which were also adjusted by the special adjustments. We will come back to you and gives, in our view, a better view as well when we compare to our peers. We also group the revenue together with the pass through cost and come to the term gross profit. We have achieved on a like for like basis gross profit of CHF 737,000,000, which is up 4.3% on a constant currency compared to the prior year and achieved an EUR 224,000,000 which provides or gives you an adjusted EBITDA margin of 30.3%. More details and assessment of the compare our performance to the guidance provided during the IPO, we can clearly say we have achieved a solid performance in 20 19. The gross profit in total achieved 4.3% growth and is in line with our guidance provided during the IPO. On the far right column, you see the midterm guidance twenty 20 to 2022 where we confirm what we have given in the IPO. And Dieter will come back, as we just announced, at the end of the presentation today, also what does this mean for the year 2020. So for the gross profit, we have the midterm guidance to achieve a double digit growth. On the sale of software, we have achieved the growth 2 0.8% on constant currency, which is at the upper end of the guidance, reflecting the successful continuation of the business and the integration as well. On the midterm guidance, we give the guidance of single digit growth. Solution and Services, we have achieved a growth of 9.2%, which was affected this business line by the harmonization of the service portfolio of Comperex and SoftwareONE and is below the guidance we have achieved we have given at 14% to 16%. Going forward, midterms, we reconfirm the high teen growth constant currency. On the synergy side, we have achieved EUR 10,000,000 of synergies in 2019. We have been ahead of our plan. The integration is, in that sense, on track and the synergies ahead of plan. Going forward, we give the guidance as well on the midterm to achieve the €60,000,000 synergies, €20,000,000 in GP and €40,000,000 in OpEx towards the end of percent. So here, we have been above the guidance. I think that's a good demonstration that we have managed the business well and focused as well on the cost discipline and achieved these targets. We reconfirm on the midterm guidance an EBITDA margin towards 35% of the GP. The adjustments are CHF 47,000,000 This is higher than the CHF 20,000,000 we guided during the IPO, but we need to say one important part of that increase is the management equity plan of €21,000,000 which is fully funded by major shareholders, but needs through IFRS, goes through profit and loss statement of SoftwareONE. So this in that sense a bit technically artificial costs. We need to deduct off the €47,000,000 to make a clear reference point to the €20,000,000 And then we have overspent built the €20,000,000 because of higher than expected the MAP related costs and merge and acquisition depending on M and to the AGM dividend of CHF 0.21 per share. This corresponds to a payout ratio of the profit of the year of 26% but also 30% taking into account one off noncash items, and there are 2 of this. This is Crayon and TEMET, which I will come back in this presentation on a later slide. Going forward, the midterm guidance is to pay out dividends in the range of 30% to 50%. On the next page, number 12, you see the gross profit of the 2 different business growth and gross profit of CHF 737,200,000. We have seen a very strong growth in the SoftwareONE book of business, While Comprex has been affected by the integration, it's in line with the year of integration we already discussed in earlier times. The two business line sale of software is up 2.8% compared to the prior year, and the solution and service is 9.2%. Now we can say that at the end, the incentive plan now is fully aligned and the service portfolio is combined with these 2 portfolios, SoftwareONE and Comprex. On the next page, number 13, we would like to show you where Software 1 does generate the GP. Software 1 is very diversified from a geographical point of view, but even more so from a customer size point of view and from an industry point of view. You see on the middle and on the right categories that it's 2018 figures. This is because we have made in 2019 an analysis of these two sizes of these two buckets with an industry expert. And we could not update that today, but we can reconfirm that for us diversification is still valid. The broad diversification brings stability in SoftwareONE as a company and also in its performance, and this is particularly of importance in the time we are in right now. Turning to the profitability on the next Page 14. We have achieved an excellent EBITDA growth of 23 percent at constant currency, which provides a margin of 30.3%. This good development could been achieved by, firstly, the growth of the company, but as well and important is how we manage the business. The process engineering and automation did went on. We have leveraging our footprint in the global service delivery centers as well as in our regional hubs, and we could also implement and realize the synergies as mentioned earlier. So this demonstrates the results in the adjusted net operating expenses in percentage of the gross profit of 69.7% in 2019, down from 74.2% in in the corresponds to the 23% on constant currency. On the Slide 15, we would like to provide you a bridge from the adjusted figures to the reported figures to the very end of the bottom line of the profit and loss statement, which is the profit of the year of EUR 125,000,000 as well as give you some more insight in key figures, which we think are important for you. Starting at the very left with an adjusted EBITDA of EUR 2.24 The adjustments we have made and disclosed is €1,000,000 for M and A related costs, €14,000,000 the integration costs. This is to run the integration but as well as onetime costs. Then the IPO cost of €11,000,000 and the management equity plan of €21,000,000 which is noncash and was fully funded by the major shareholders. We need then also to take out the contribution of Comprex of this 1 month of January 2019 and are then with an EBITDA, EUR 117,000,000 on the reported figures. The depreciation amortization of €51,000,000 is depreciation and and what we highlighted here on the net financial items, which is €35,000,000 aplog, is a gain which we have realized by the appreciation of our Kreia shareholding of €35,000,000 The tax with €29,000,000 is a tax rate of 18%. It's not a normalized tax rate. We have the appreciation in the crayon share is not taxable. We have achieved a nice, in my opinion, a nice figure of SEK 125,000,000 in net profit. On Page 16, you see the cash impact of our asset line business. And we want to demonstrate this asset line business, which can generate strong cash flows on the left with the capital expenditure, intangible and intangible assets, which is €21,000,000 So a very low number, and we need as well to know that most of that is in conjunction with the investment in our platform, PuraCloud. In the middle, on operating cash flow, that's a very simple metrics, which is EBITDA minus CapEx in tangible and intangible assets, we have achieved in CHF 20.19 150,000,000. On the far right, this is linked to the cash flow statement, and we have achieved CHF 193,000,000 in free cash flow, which is the cash flow from operating activities minus investing activities and excluding the cash related items for acquisitions the cash related items for acquisitions in subsidiaries. On this CHF 193,000,000, a positive impact of CHF 53,000,000 is coming from the change in net working capital. And this is also the link on the next page, number 17, where we have on the top left the net working capital compared to the prior year. The net working capital, excluding the factoring, so adding back the factoring, is CHF 93,000,000 at the end of 2019. This corresponds to a metric of 13 percent compared to the gross profit. This is a nice level, but I have also disclosed here that we had a target of in average during the year of 25%, which is at 38%. So this means that percent, but we have made very good progress at the end or the last month in 2019 part of the net working capital, Laura, an addition of the net working capital a part of the net working capital, Laura, an addition of the net working capital, we want to demonstrate that we have a strong balance sheet SoftwareONE, and we provide or propose an attractive dividend at the AGM. I'm saying this because of the net debt position at the end of 2019 is minus CHF 190,000,000. That means that the cash on hand is CHF 190,000,000 higher than the net debt. And this cash position is increased compared to 2018, which was €134,000,000 On the equity side, the equity ratio is more or less on the same level as in prior year, even though we have consummated the Comprex acquisition. And the Board DAF proposed a dividend of CHF 0.21 per share to the AGM, which corresponds to 30% of net profit adjusted by the impact of the MAP and which is positive and negative of €39,000,000 of Crayon. So without this adjustment, it would have been 26%. With this strong balance sheet, we are convinced that we are well prepared for the future for investing in the business, but all the special situation we are in. With this, I'm handing over to Alex for a more detailed presentation of the business and the strategy update. Please, Alex. Thank you, Hans, and hello, everyone. Also a very warm welcome from me. I will spend the next few minutes with you to walk through our business and strategy update. Kicking off on Slide 19, just want to highlight that our solutions around software and cloud and services and solutions have become even more important as the actual underlying technology itself has become mission critical and complex for our customers. No matter the type of business, every business is now somehow powered by technology and the technology is seen as a key differentiator or a competitive advantage. Customers are spending much more on technology and at the same time they're spending that in the form of OpEx, which again just increases the amount of focus and attention to that spend. And technology is no longer just in the CIO suite. It's really been this concept of consumerization of that technology across all parts of an organization have been really positive to enable the business models, but have also created the increased complexity that we now see across all of our customers. The complexity that we see shows up really anytime we look at a customer that might be 500 or 1000 end users and we could see as many as 100 applications across their environment. And that's just in the lower end of the SME. At the same time, what we see across our customers is that many are at the start or in the middle of their journey to the cloud. So many are operating still a very mixed or a hybrid environment. And it's these two factors that the importance of the technology to our customers as well as the complexity that it creates, that creates the need for our customers to engage with SoftwareONE with partners like us. We really help customers figure out where they are today, where they're trying to go and really support and enable them along that journey. On Slide 20, just as a quick highlight, we operate in very large and growing markets. On the left hand side, again referring to our software and cloud business, The market itself is over CHF 520,000,000,000 as Dieter mentioned in his initial slides. We don't do hardware and devices and appliances. And so what you see here in the red is just software and cloud. And this market is large and forecasted to grow at 10% over the next several years. On the right, what you see here is in the IT services market, we only participate or we only focus on cloud only. And when we select those relevant markets, which are cloud only, we find that the market is a little over $30,000,000,000 but growing at a very fast rate of 17%. We approach this market backdrop. We approach everything that we do with customers with our customer first mindset. And that is how we've built our business model. That's how we've built our operating model as well. So starting at the top left of Slide 21, what you see is we are locally present in 90 countries around the world. This is really important for us because we want to have that local touch in the local language of the customer. We want to have that customer intimacy and that means we have to be there on the ground with customers. At the same time, we enable that local model through our regional and global setup. What we mean by that is we drive 1 standard global portfolio. We focus a lot on standardized processes automation. And when we do that, we're able to drive much better utilization of our local and regional resources as well as support all of our subsidiaries with our global backbone if it comes to any sort of managed service. We then, as Dieter mentioned, power that, enable our model as well as the experience for customers with our own IP and we call it PureCloud. For us, the platform is really the center of everything that we do with customers. Starting with the advisory side, where the customers are looking for a certain piece of software, we help them find it. We help them provide some insights on what they already have in their environment as they look for their existing assets or to purchase something new. We really enable the entire digital supply chain for customers on the software side from all the way to the customer site to our entire procurement engine. And the ability to connect all of those dots in the middle and simplify and shorten the entire process for customers is what we call digital supply chain. We're investing heavily today in our what we call cloud management, cloud control capabilities. And finally, we utilize ParaCloud as our central communication channel, that is our central hub with customers. Our value proposition spans both the entire life cycle, technology life cycle for customers as well as the goals and priorities for software publishers. And so just to highlight a few points here. With customers, we are really we're able to engage with them all the way from the beginning of the technology lifecycle, where they're trying to make a decision to the actual transactional, the buy portion, where they're trying to find the product, they're trying to buy it at the lowest price with the right terms and conditions, to helping them implement or migrate to the cloud. And then once they're in the cloud, supporting them, helping manage their environment and optimize their costs in the cloud. We are able to support and we do today support customers along each stage of that lifecycle. At the same time, what's really important is we don't stop at just the buy segment. And this is really important for the software publishers because the software publishers are looking for partners, which help engage very deeply with customers to drive digital adopt, to drive the digital readiness, to drive the adoption of the software. Because as you know, even the largest software publishers in the world are really measured based on usage, consumption and renewal rates. And by having a trusted partner like us that is able to engage with customers around the world, that is able to engage with customers locally in their language, but able to deliver a consistent value add approach across the globe is very valuable and well aligned with the software publishers. In terms of our we run our strategy in 4 year As I mentioned, the underlying market, software and cloud market is very large and growing at 10%, and that is the first pillar of our execution strategy, which is to continue to grow that software and cloud spend, both with our existing customer base and new customers. At the same time, we see a significant uplift in our gross profit and significant stickiness with our customers when we are able to cross sell our services and solutions. And so we continue to see a significant opportunity there. We're continuing to always evolve our portfolio to make sure that it suits the needs of our customers. And we do all of that, as I mentioned, through our globally global and local model, local empowerment, global standardization and global support. Finally, we do engage in M and A activities, where we're trying to accelerate and where we see opportunity, and we power all of our customer experience, customer interaction with ParaCloud. Switching to Slide 23, just want to spend a few minutes speaking about our lines of business and highlight some of the underlying drivers as well as what we see in the current environment. Starting with software and cloud, it is approximately 76% of our gross profit. And as I mentioned, the underlying market here is very healthy and growing fast at 10%. And that's what we see with our customers as well. Customers again are using the software, using the technology as a core component of how they power their business, how they compete, how they differentiate themselves. And then that shows up in terms of the softer spend, what we see with our existing customers, they're renewing, they're focused on what features they have and what they're utilizing. And we see additional drive and additional usage here from the cloud and SaaS adoption across our customers. Just as a reminder, in our software and cloud business of the 76%, fifty agreements as well as subscriptions. And our Microsoft business spans from spans the 3 Microsoft Clouds, 365, Azure and Dynamics. On the right side, in terms of our services and solutions business, which is approximately 24% of our business in 2019, this is split roughly fifty-fifty between professional services and managed services. What we see in the current environment is the professional services side is actually rotating very fast to help enable customers and the work from home. What this really means is what Dieter mentioned is the future workplace practice. Customers need to make sure they have all of the collaboration tools in place and they can utilize unified communication as well in the form of Teams. So we see a significant rotation of our professional services in that area as well as requests from customers to help them with cost takeout and Dieter mentioned digital transformation and this now has very much focused on business continuity. We what we also see is that the current buying behavior by customers to really make sure that they're able to work in a virtual way, they're able to work from home, we do see that this will create some additional softer lifecycle work and perhaps cleanup in the midterm. As customers figure out what is steady state for them, they will have to go back through and rationalize some of the software in terms of the what is virtualized and what is still on-site or on premise for them. And the other side of our business, the other 50% that is managed service, we continue to see very healthy trends here because these are typically subscription or longer term contracts. We see this as a very sticky and recurring business with our customers. And again, as I mentioned, all of our services and solutions are cloud only. Finally, I'd like to wrap up with an update on our integration activities. On the top left of Slide 24, just a quick recap on the most recent acquisitions that we've done. We have completed the integrations of the Unified Communication and Collaboration practice as well as services business in France and the Sam Century, the SLM technology that we've integrated into TerraCloud. Over the course of Q1, we're wrapping up the acquisition of an AWS managed cloud business in Asia Pacific called BrightCloud. And over the course of Q2, we're wrapping up a small acquisition of an AWS player in Japan called Massive R and D. The very exciting acquisition of BMW that we did at the end of 2019, we will wrap up towards the end of 2020. As Dieter mentioned in his opening remarks, the SAP to the cloud workloads is a really important and exciting strategy for us and our customers. And finally, Intergroupo, we still hold a 40% stake here, and so the relationship here continues to be at arm's length. Now on the Comprex acquisition, as you heard from Hans and Dieter, we continue to be on track with what we laid out. This has been a very intensive planning effort and we've now been in a very intensive execution phase. As a reminder, the CompRegs acquisition for us was very much a familiar book of business. The CompRegs by itself was in the same software and cloud business that we have today. And what we saw is an opportunity to enhance the key talents that we had at Topher 1. We saw some very talented people at Comprex as well as because it is a familiar book of business, we saw an opportunity to significantly grow our business and get synergies out of the combined business. Over the course of 2019, we completed a number of very important steps. Specifically, we first focus on the customer facing integration, which is anything we wanted to make sure that anytime customer saw us, they saw 1 unified company. And that's why we focused on the brand, on the website. We made sure that we had leadership appointments across all of our countries and it was very clear that it was one leadership team. And finally, as you heard towards the end of the year and as we kicked off our sales activity in 2020, we made sure that we harmonize the portfolio. So today, as our sales force goes to customers, we have one consistent portfolio across the company. And at the same time, we have harmonized the sales force compensation. And this also went into effect as of beginning of 2020. What we also did in 2019 and what still remains in 2020 are the back end integrations. And here we are migrating systems and data and we're doing this in a very structured step by step way and we have done a number of them in 2019 and we will complete the rest of them over the course of 2020. In terms of synergies, as you've heard us describe before, we target approximately $60,000,000 of synergies for the Comprex acquisition. That's broken up into $40,000,000 of OpEx and $20,000,000 of gross profit. Over the course of 2019, we already achieved $10,000,000 out of that $40,000,000 And over the course of this year, over the course of 2020, we plan on achieving approximately 60% of that $40,000,000 of OpEx. And then finally, we intend to wrap up all of our integration activities towards the end of 2020. And over the course of 2021, we plan to have the full run rate of the $60,000,000 from the Comprex integration. I will wrap up here and turn it back over to Dieter. Yes. Thank you, Alex. As mentioned in the beginning, I will now turn to our outlook and also to the COVID-nineteen situation and its impact on our business. So moving to Slide 26. Over here, I will be talking about 4 areas which should be relevant for any organization, how to cope with COVID-nineteen. 1st and foremost, focus on your employees. 2nd, do your part as a global citizen. 3rd, focus on the customer and then manage the business accordingly. SoftwareONE has been coming to our employees has been very strongly utilizing our tools and platforms on the collaboration side since ages. We are spread across 90 countries. We have a global service portfolio. We have a global delivery model. So everyone is really used on working remotely and virtually. And our core values and our culture underlie this completely. On the second part, as a global citizen, we have been 98% on work from home, 100% in where our shared services centers are, like in India. We made those decision much more in advance of local mandates doing our part to flatten the curve, and we banned the international travel also much earlier than it was advised by the local mandate. On our customers, I want to highlight 3 areas. 1st and foremost, you need to continue your service level. And we have 100% availability. We have zero interruption on our services. As you might be recalling what Alex mentioned as well, we have a split ratio of managed services to professional services. Our managed services were to a high extent, over 80% already delivered out of our global delivery centers, and the remaining part is now flowing over to the regional on local ones. And our teams are locally available to support our customers further. The second part is helping the customers in the current situation and making sure that we come up with the right solutions so that they can cope with COVID-nineteen. And there, we have launched a customized portfolio, making sure that our customers get the right help to take out cost in the current environment, but also help them to cope with business continuity with BCP. At the same token, everybody needs to work from home. Not every company, actually most companies have never planned with nearly 100% work from home strategy, maybe with a 20% or 30% strategy. So the digital workplaces and unified cooperation, communication, they're all not ready. And we have launched services to really help those customers speeding those solutions up, and ramping them up quite quickly and made it all available remotely. So we don't need to be on-site to do this for our customers. The third point for our customers is making sure that we are there once we are through COVID-nineteen. We see a huge backlog on particular on professional services creeping up. And that will continue because now nobody debates anymore whether and when they should move into the cloud. Nobody debates anymore whether BCP is required or not. Nobody debates anymore whether the security is a necessity or not if I have my full employee base working from home. On the 4th point, managing the business closely. That's very important. We have changed our cadence to address this, making sure we have regular business reviews with every single country and every region, making sure that we have case by case review of every large deal, what is the advantage, what is the risk, what is our risk appetite, what is the impact on payment terms, what is the payment behavior of those customers, are they impacted, how are they impacted in the certain industry, managing our networking capital on a daily basis and also make sure that we have the right discussions with our software publishers and distributors so that we have a back to back agreement when customers are approaching us on network and capital costs like extended payment terms. Moving now to the outlook. Slide 27, I'm very happy to reaffirm our midterm guidance provided at the IPO. However, with the current COVID-nineteen situation, we are currently not possible to predict whether we can already reach the GP, the gross profit targets in 2020 as expected during the IPO. I just want to remind you on the key midterm guidance, what to include. We have double digit gross profit growth resulting from high single digit growth in sale of software and cloud and other revenue and growth in the high teens in solution and services. Our adjusted EBITDA margin is approaching 35%, with adjusted EBITDA growth in excess of the gross profit growth. Furthermore, progressive dividend policy with a payout ratio of 30% to 50% of the profit for the year. You heard it from Hans. He has shown you the details with our strong balance sheet now, liquidity, unused credit lines and cash flow. We believe SoftwareONE is prepared to weather a potentially large downturn and to we will continue to invest into our business. With that, thank you for your attention. And thank you, Hans and Alex, and we are now happy to take your questions. Operator, can you pass on the first question, please? The first question comes from Stacy Pollard from JPMorgan. Please go ahead. Thank you. I have a couple of questions, please. First of all, can you quantify what SoftwareONE gross profits grew in 2019 versus what Comparex book of business grew, just so we can understand the impact? And do you expect that the Comparex drag will ease in 2020 because you talked about the portfolio and sales incentives are now aligned. Do you think that's completely done or does that continue to cause a bit of a drag in 2020? Second question, just any quick performance differentials in growth or margins across the different geographies? And third question, just in the current situation, do you see any delays because you can't maybe get to see your customers or they themselves are in limbo? And is there any particular tech that is either very popular or very unpopular, I. E. Is being put on hold? Yes. Thanks, Stacy. I'm having an ankle maybe. Okay. Let me start with the 3rd question. There are many popular choices right now, Stacy. Everybody is looking into unified collaboration and communication, Teams, Zoom, hands on, Hangout, whatever is out there is quite in demand. The readiness of the customer, and that is from a commercial and technology point of view, not always there. And that demands, of course, an uptick on professional services to help them over the line. In the same token, through the landscape of certain customers that they might have a ratio of desktops to laptops in an inefficient manner, they would require now the virtual desktop, and we see a huge uptake in that aspect as well. And overall, what it means what and again, the echo has come back. But it means that we see a pivot from professional services towards those activities. And whatever it requires on-site, we see a delay on the customer side. So they would postpone professional services if it doesn't help them right now, either saving costs or enabling the business to work remotely or enable the business to survive and to conquer the wave of COVID-nineteen. On the second question, where you asked about the gross margins across geographies with our distribution on geographies and our customer base, which is quite similar across all geographies and one global portfolio, which is always delivered in the same way, we actually don't see a difference in gross margins. On the first point, on the first question where you asked about performance from SoftwareONE versus Compaqs, then I can share with you that SoftwareONE was in their usual growth structure, which is the high teens, and ComparX was in the low single digit. That's helpful. Thank you very much. Thanks, Jacob. The next question comes from the line of Andreas Muller from ZKB. Please go ahead. I've got also several. Can you talk about the challenges in harmonization of the products, portfolios and so forth and also the incentive plans? I mean that the growth from the Comprex side on solution and services, was that triggered also by the incentive scheme? Or was it more sort of technically driven by the not harmonized solution? That's the first question. Then can you give me a sense of the payment terms towards your suppliers, but also what you think is going to happen towards your clients? And do you see going forward also a change in the factoring behavior of your factors, plus how what's the size of the unused credit line? Just to get a sense basically what's the caution you can rely on in terms of cash. And then the third question, I mean, some of your competitors are probably going to be more cash strapped going forward. Would that make you more kind of lean to acquisitions going forward? Or is the, say, the dividend and also the protection of your balance sheet kind of priority? Or do you see really huge opportunity on the M and A side? Thank you. Yes. Thanks, Andreas. And the first point on the harmonization on the incentive plan, yes, that was the whole purpose of our year of integration in 2019. As we shared with you, we had a different incentive plan. We had a different compensation plan. Comparax had it not harmonized. We had a global one. CompaRex had a different approach taken, which is not very sales driven. SoftwareONE always had a very sales focused driven incentive plan. And most importantly also, from a delivery point of view, Compaq's didn't have a global delivery model and not a global delivery not a global portfolio. So that was what Alex mentioned in his slide was the big work which we had to do in 2019. And of course, it affected the growth on the Comparag side because we wanted to really do this digitally. We wanted to make the hard decisions in 1 year and really standardize, automate and offshore, but in the same way SoftwareONE has lived through the last couple of years, so that we gain in a long term basis. So I agree with you that had an impact last year, and we guided on that as well. We assume this the kickoff in January, where we had one global kickoff across the world on one portfolio, that will not impact anymore in 2020 our growth. On the second point on payment terms, and I'll ask Hans to jump in a bit on the cushion. What we have standard payment terms under house. We have 30 days payment terms. That's our standard. Every single payment request, which is about 30 days, is going through a workflow through Hunter and myself. And we monitor this right now on a daily basis. To also have further cushion, we are having negotiations, also successful negotiations already with our major publishers to extend our payments to them so that we would be actually having a positive cash flow if the 30 days would be taken care of. On the cushion of the unused credit lines, Hans, what do you want to share over you? Yes. This is Hans from Reas. What I can share with you, we have disclosed in the annual report that we have committed and uncommitted credit lines of CHF985 1,000,000, where we have thrown down 22 percent at the end of December, and this is more or less also in line what we have seen in the months going forward into 2020. On the 3rd question, which was acquisitions and how do we react to the situation that many of our competitors are not taking care of digital assets only, but also on hardware and on premise services, which we know is highly impacted at the moment. SoftwareONE will remain on the acquisition side. We told everyone on view that we want to focus on compacts from a bigger point of view, from a scale point of view and complete this End of the year and from next year onwards, we would be ready to look in those areas if they make sense from a geography, if they make sense from a portfolio, if they make sense from a customer base and of course, from a valuation point of view. The capability acquisitions, we regionally, and they're very easy to integrate and to absorb and get the value creation quickly out of that position. The next question comes from the line of Stefan Slowinski. Please go ahead. Yes. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I just had a question on the Microsoft relationship. If I'm not Microsoft as a percent of gross profits actually going down from 57% to 54%. Is that right? And if so, why is that? I mean, I would have thought Microsoft would have been the fastest growing portion of your business. Is something else growing faster or is it maybe due to changes in the Microsoft partner program? It seems like they have made some changes in the back half of last year, maybe around commissions and incentive structures for partners. I'm just wondering if that's something that you're seeing, if that's having an impact on your business or if that was something that was anticipated and your offer is already baked into the outlook going out to 2022. So any color you can give us around the Microsoft partnership and what you're seeing there and how that impacts your outlook for 2020 and going up to 2022 would be of interest. Thank you. Yes, Sam, thanks for the question. Yes, it was anticipated. It's actually our plan is to have it around 50%. We are very happy with 50% to 55%. We don't see this as a negative in terms of dependency, and we don't see it that we need to grow it beyond because we need to be that agnostic partner and adviser of our customer, also being able to advise them on different solutions so that we come to the right conclusion and the right solution for our customer base. The transformation, which we have started 7 years back, has obviously leaned to a much stronger service and solution portfolio, but also to a diversity on other publishers or hyperscalers. And we will continue we will continue to do so. Overall, the pie has been growing. And with that, I would say, we never had a better partnership with Microsoft than we had in Redmond. We just had been there prior to COVID. In Redmond. We just had been there prior to COVID with our entire executive team, and we are deeply aligned from Satya to his entire leadership team. So you saw also the growth numbers, Mattress offers announcing the utilization of ASHA in the current phase. Obviously, we are very close on this thing to leapfrog and piggyback on that. Okay. Thank you. And maybe just one follow-up question. I'm just wondering if you can give us an insight as to what percent of your business is directly related to new software license sales. So when we looked at the non Microsoft cloud revenue that you disclosed at IPO, if you look at the Microsoft on premise and the multi vendor bucket, is that mainly new licenses or is there other maintenance or recurring revenue portions in there as well? Yes. Thanks, Stephen. Alex, do you want to jump in here? We yes, I would say, we the dynamics we look at actually is more around existing customers and new customers, Chevron. So we continue to see the analysis and what we monitor closely is we continue to see strong gross profit retention renewal rates with existing customers And there, it's yes. And then what we also saw from us is with the acquisition of Comprex, we didn't go after as many new logos because we felt that we were already getting 25,000 new customers that we needed to go after, make sure we got them on to the same SoftwareONE portfolio. So I'd say that's been the focus over 2019. What you will see going forward is the focus on existing customers and kind of cross pollinating them with services and solutions, as well as we are now as we communicated, we've started growing our sales force from the end of 2019, beginning of 2020. So you will see us now starting to grow the new logos as well. In terms of maybe if your specific question is existing or new software purchases, we I wouldn't we see both. What we actually see is in our numbers is if the overall market is, let's say, 60% to 65% on premise and the rest is SaaS and public cloud, we see a much greater adoption of SaaS and public cloud with our customers. So our customers are already well over 50% in terms of SaaS and public cloud consumption. So that's how I would describe it. The new the customer dynamics as well as the software purchases. Okay. And just a final clarification there. So if 60% to 65% is on premise, how much of that is kind of recurring in nature? Is there and how much of that would be sort of one off license sales? I see. I'd say that's the 60% to 65% is a market number. And I think it's a typical breakdown of there's the ongoing maintenance stream. I don't know. I actually don't know if we we ourselves are not a big beneficiary of the maintenance stream, to be honest. I think we typically make sure we put the customers into the right agreements and we get paid on these 3 year contracts. The ongoing maintenance stream is really something that the software publishers would benefit from, not us. Okay, great. Thanks for the color. The next question comes from the line of Charles Brennan from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead. Great. Thanks very much. Just a couple of questions for me as well. Firstly, can you just give us a little bit more color on your guidance versus current momentum? Firstly, I don't actually recall you giving specific 2020 profit targets at the time of the IPO, and you referenced those in the statement. Can you just give us an idea of what your 2020 expectations were? And then just as a follow-up to that, your second half growth rates from 2019 feel quite a long way away from your medium term growth ambitions. Can you give us any insight into Q1 trading? Is that already consistent with those medium term growth numbers? Or does 2020 require an acceleration as we go through the year? And then lastly, on the guidance, you specifically call out trends in the second half of March being hard to interpret. Is that because you don't yet have the data to draw any conclusions? Or you are seeing some signs of mix trading and it's just too early to draw any hard conclusions? And then just away from the guidance, can I ask one on the cash flow? You missed your average net working capital expectations. That implies a very strong December performance. Do you think there's anything one off in nature in the December working capital? Or is that a sensible base to extrapolate forward from? And any insights into the volume of factoring would be useful as well. Thank you. Thanks, Raj. On the first question on the guidance, we have guided that we would be in the low teens on the gross profit. And that's basically a weighted average across the two business lines, which is low single high single digit than software and cloud and high teens on solution and services. That was the midterm guidance for 2020 to 2022. In what you're seeing in your reflection now, what we're seeing in Q1 and could we already predict the impact? We believe that and again, this is all just the caveat of how long COVID is lasting through, But we believe we see an impact in Q2 and in Q3, and it would come back to normal in Q4. We at the moment, we haven't seen an impact on Q1. There was as we mentioned, there was a continued momentum on Q1. And so we would expect that impact to really kicking on in Q2 and continue in Q3. On the networking capital and the factoring, I just pass on to Hans because he's he always loves to answer that question. Hans, over to you. Yes. Thank you, Dieter. So Charles, what I can say is about the factoring, you have asked what is the amount of factoring. It was €136,000,000 at the end of December. When we talk about the networking capital figure, we exclude the factoring. So it's before the factoring. So the balance sheet number is lower than this. Then about the missing of the average and I would say, what are the factors in between that or the measures. I think in 2019 that there has been some, let's say, not yet adjustment processes with the integration of Comparex. We've had some impact on the net working capital follows certain trends throughout the year, which is directly linked to the peaks which we see in our businesses, which are in March, June, September December. And so the net working capital is the highest 1 month or 6 weeks after this peak, depending on the payment terms from the customer and the vendor that can not always be which are local but also quite centralized in some areas, as perhaps Dietrich said before, on the payment terms when it comes to extended payment terms. But it's also very monitored and driven when it comes to the cash throughout the group, which we monitor from the top as well. I think it's really a micromanagement topic, the net working capital, what I'm saying, all the time. It's we need every day to chase the cash collection and to make sure that we get the cash from our customers. But an even more important part of the net working capital is basically the link to the business. It's not purely a finance driven topic. It's also a topic of businesses. You want to make a deal or not make a deal. And when you see have a situation in place where a customer is asking extending payment terms, then you need to make a decision to what extent you want to assure the deal or not. And that's quite a balance we have to make as a management. And as Jiete said earlier, this is coming even to Dieter and myself to make them to find a decision on this. So going forward, I think that the net working capital, as you said, what is expecting, it does fluctuate every day. But of course, we do everything and we push hard to have it on a very, very low level. But it can also be that the certain balance sheet date, it's up or down depending on if the cash is just coming in or not from a specific customer. Just one clarification. It sounds like Q1 has traded in line with your plan. Can you tell us if that's consistent with low teens profit growth? Or was 2020 always based on an acceleration through the year? Yes. So, Thijs, we have seen Q1 and we are at the last day of the quarter, right? We have seen Q1 trading according to our expectation. And what I mentioned earlier, this harmonized service portfolio and harmonized commission plan and incentive plan, we were ready from 1st January onwards to deliver it across the entire SoftwareONE community, inclusive of Compaq's, so it would be evenly spread out through the quarters. Okay. Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Balaji Turupaki from Citigroup. Please go ahead. Thanks for taking my question. Congratulations on good set of results. Two questions from my side, if I may. First on synergies, you have delivered strong performance in 2019 and have been treated with target of $16,000,000 dollars Are you already seeing expenses of gross profit synergies? And do you see potential of doing more than the target $16,000,000 number and can we get caution on account of current uncertain environment? That is the first question. And second one is on the workforce integration of the comparator business. How have been the attrition rate over the past 1 year, particularly amongst the senior management of Comparix? Thank you. Balaji, thank you very much. Can you just repeat the second question? I didn't understand that. The line was a bit bad. Sorry, second question is on the workforce integration of the comparator business. Question is, how have is the attention rate over the past 1 year? And that is particularly amongst the senior management of Comparex. Okay. Thank you very much. Yes, let me quickly answer that second question. We have two sorts of attrition, which we want to, of course, manage very carefully. First is attrition of key talents and second is attrition of customers. We have not lost any customer of strategic relevance or tactical relevance or size. We have, in terms of leadership, actually very, very quickly established a harmonized leadership team, which we invoked on the 1st February already. So the attrition we have seen was already was a planned attrition through the harmonization of the leadership team. Does this answer your question? On the first, Alex, you want to hear about you? Yes, of course. Hi, Balaji. What we planned as part of the integration is we would have first through the integration of systems of Teams, we would get all of the OpEx synergies. And that's what you see already in the progress in 2019. And that's why you see that approximately 60% over the course of 2020. What we always planned on is that the gross profit synergies would come in 2021. And so that's still our current plan. To be honest, the gross profit synergies for us was always a topic of discipline, which is as we acquired Comprex, there was overlap in certain regions, certain geographies. And we wanted to have that discipline from a budgeting perspective. The cross sell, upsell opportunity that we're going after is really more in our that we try to illustrate in our customer base. And if you remember some of the illustrations we did as part of the IPO process, which is when we look at customers that are software and cloud only, there is a significant opportunity when we are able to sell services and solutions to them. So that's really the big opportunity and what we're going after. And so the $20,000,000 we're still planning on achieving and that's very much kind of a disciplined budget process that will be part of 2021 as we set the targets for the countries. And then I think you also had embedded in there a question around, we're not changing guidance in terms of the $60,000,000 So we're still guiding to $40,000,000 of OpEx and $20,000,000 of GP. Maybe just to add to that on the €20,000,000 of GP, what Alex said, it's absolutely right. It's upselling and the cross selling, but what we also see is a margin uptick on the multi vendor side because of leveraging scale and leveraging different certification vendors and different relationships with publishers. So the EUR 60,000,000 is outstanding, absolutely. Andre, are there any further questions? Next question comes from the line of Michael Briest from UBS. Please go ahead. Thank you. Good morning. A couple from me. Just looking at the Solution and Services business, I mean, there's a very impressive improvement in the margin, but equally revenues and costs look to have fallen almost by £60,000,000 half on half. I seem to recall, Compex had a lot of subcontracting and low margin activity. Is that what's driving that? And looking forward, a 70% gross margin in the second half of 2019. What sort of room is there to improve that? Or should we assume that the high teens growth in Solutions and Services gross profit is equated by the similar growth rate in revenues. Just get a feel for that. And then I have a follow-up on the factoring. Yes. Hi, Michael. Thank you. On the first question, what we have seen during the process of last year, we had this contracts not only certain subcontracting, as you mentioned, but it was just a locally customized portfolio and locally delivered. And with that, you can't scale out and you can't optimize and you can't find synergies to really optimize the repeat activities. The second part was also from a strategy point of view, where do you want to be as a service provider? CompaX had the flexibility to also sell hardware, had the flexibility to also be on premise and help someone in their data centers. And that was, of course, positive in one way, but in another way, not sustainable in the future. And that's what we have completely changed, right, where we clearly say we have not only 1 global catalog, but we deliver it to our shared service center. Whatever we can standardize, we automate. If we can't automate it, we offshore it into our delivery centers, and it is one portfolio which is cloud based. We don't want to be on premise. We want to be the born in the cloud provider. And with that, we will see a continued development on the margin. On the second part of it, Alex, you want to jump in here? Yes. Hi, Michael. So I think you're right in your analysis that what you see what we saw is that there was quite a bit much quite a bit more subcontracting on the Comprex side. As Dieter mentioned, it naturally is part of our strategy when we bring it into kind of our one harmonized portfolio, we will do a lot less of that. And so I would almost to be honest, I would caution you a bit from using the metric that you're using from taking the revenue over the gross profit in our services business? Because to me, that's almost a way what we will do there is the portfolio comes together. I would expect that the 3rd party number to continue decline. And I would say we're not I couldn't even give you a target on what that should look like because for us, we're very much focused on that gross profit number. That's what we're driving. And so that's why I would caution you a little bit against that ratio. But I think the rest of the equation, everything else is exactly kind of as you're alluding to, which is as we have a common portfolio, as we focus everyone on the same kind of services and solutions, we expect that high teens growth. And that's what we expect from the combined book of business. And if you recall, that's a bit lower than what SoftwareONE standalone was able to get. But again, we still feel that we're transforming the combined book of business. And so that's the high teens target that we've put out. Okay. And then just on sort of credit risk, I think one of the pie chart shows probably a quarter of your gross profit coming from customers with less than 2 50 employees. So I guess SMEs might be more vulnerable in this crisis than in 2,008. And when I look at the receivables balance, I think €320,000,000 of it is overdue at the end of the year, €60,000,000 of that is more than 90 days overdue. Can you talk about what you do to chase down that debt? Because when I look at the provision for bad debt, it's actually gone down a little bit percentage terms. So it's 1% of receivables. It was 1.3% at the end of 2018. But clearly, this is potentially a very dangerous time for SME. So how comfortable are you in that book of debtors? And are you using factoring in some way to derisk it? I don't know what the decision making is behind the factoring. 1st of all, I would say we are fine with the receivables and how we have the receivables make allowances for the receivables in general report. So it's a clear process in place where we need to assess the risk and the risk of collection of collecting this receivable. So this is fine with us, and we do not see a peak date. We are chasing all these outstanding receivables. It's a process, what I said earlier today on the micro management every day, and it's a very, very diligent process, which is ongoing. About you said about the factoring and the risk. I would say there are 2 elements on this. So the factoring is something we use as an instrument when we need to close a deal with long payment terms. And usually, these are customers which are having even a better rating than ourselves. So it's also, in that sense, a cheap financing methodology. And factoring is used for this when we are in such situation with long payment terms and the customer really wants to go into such situations, and then we offer that. So when it's factored and off balance sheet, then the risk is gone, of course. On the other side, in general, about the accounts receivable, we have different buckets. The very small deals, we do not insure and take our risk. We try to insure all the receivables globally. We do not succeed on all that, of course, because sometimes the deal need to be closed very urgently or in last days and the insurer does not have time or is not able to give a feedback. And then the customers, which are very, very credit worth, we do not insure them at all. So BBB plus we do not insure them. And so we think with this method and how we treat these accounts receivable, we cover the risk quite well. I think you disclosed the level of sorry, I think you disclosed the level of insurance at the end of 2018 in the IPO. What was it at 2019? What proportion of credit was insured? No, I don't have it on top of my mind, but I think it's on the same level more or less of 2018 probably. I would need to look at it. 75, yes. Okay. Yes. Michael, also from an SME point of view, what we see from a consumption now, they consume our portfolio and they're rather in now, they consume our portfolio rather in 2 ways. It is either service business, which is then monthly billing. So there's no big lump sum and the risk is very much taken care of. And the second one on solution, it would be our simple solutions, which are our particular SMB and SME targeted solution, which are again based on monthly billing. So we usually don't have this SME to long term exposure. Okay, understood. Thanks. The last question from today comes from the line of Alex Stout from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. Yes. Hi. Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. So I mean just wanting to try and get an idea of what you see as realistic downside risk in the current environment for FY 2020. I mean, I appreciate you don't want to give formal guidance, but could we see software gross profit and or IT services gross profit declining in FY 2020 overall based on what you understand of the situation at this point? And kind of related, do you think that you can at least maintain EBITDA margin at the current level, but perhaps before the synergies from Comprex based on the situation you see now? And then I have a follow-up, but if you could give answers to that first. Thanks. Yes. Thanks, Alex. We actually we believe that on the software and cloud services, there will be limited impact, simply because we are not in the SAP reselling business where customers would delay the bigger purchases. We are in the technology projects of SAP, which again is rather than which is done offshore. On the solution and services side, Alex, it really depends how much we can compensate from the increased demand on security, on future workplace, on DCP, on UCC, on collaboration tools compared to those ones, which we usually would have as a professional service where you migrate users to the cloud. And if we at the moment, we see that's compensated. But I would assume this depends on, again, how long COVID lasts. So on the managed services side, since we delivered this mainly out of our shared service centers, we don't see an impact. Great. And then just directly as a follow-up to what you just said. What proportion of the solutions and services gross profit in FY 2019 was coming from security, unified communications, procurement, these areas that you would expect in the current environment would see some benefit at least over the course of FY 2020 overall? So you remember, we have 2 sub lines of business in the solution and services space. 1 is the software lifecycle management and the other one is the technology services and on one side. On the other side, we have a fifty-fifty ratio, managed services versus professional services. Actually, managed services is about 50%. We have on the software lifecycle management, Alex, we at the moment, we are helping customers to take out costs, right, and helping them to optimize their landscape. So there, we haven't seen a dip. On the technology services side, the future data center practice has been rather pivoted to the future workplace and the security and the apps of practice. So again, at the moment, it's compensated. But clearly, I mentioned earlier, we see an impact in Q2. We anticipate an impact in Q2 and Q3, But it, of course, all depends how long the COVID takes and once the curve is threatened. Great. Thank you. Thanks, Alex. That was the last question. All right. So if there are no more questions, we would like to thank you again for attending this conference. We wish you a good day and look forward to speaking to you in the next time. Thank you. Stay well and stay safe and goodbye.