Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the AltaGas First Quarter 2020 Financial Results Conference Call. My name is Julian, and I will be your operator for today's call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise.
If you have any difficulties hearing the conference, please press star then 0 for operator assistance at any time. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. A reminder, this conference call is being broadcast live on the Internet and recorded. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Adam McKnight, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Mr.
McKnight.
Thanks, Julianne, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today for the AltaGas First Quarter 2020 Financial Results Conference Call. Speaking on the call this morning will be Randy Crawford, President and Chief Executive Officer and James Harbilas, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. We're also joined here this morning by Randy Toon, Executive Vice President and President, Midstream and Blue Jenkins, Executive Vice President and President, Utilities and Washington Gas. As always, today's prepared remarks will be followed by an analyst question and answer period.
And I'll remind everyone that the Investor Relations team will be available after the call for any follow-up questions or any detailed modeling questions that you might have. Presentation slides have been made available for today's call, and they can be accessed through our Events and Presentations webpage. But I'll remind everyone that today's prepared remarks will not directly follow the slides that were provided. A replay of the call will be available later today and a transcript will be posted to our website shortly thereafter. And before we begin, I'll also remind everyone that we will refer to forward looking information on today's call.
This information is subject to certain risks and uncertainties as outlined in the forward looking information disclosure on Slide 2 of the presentation and more fully within our public disclosure filings on both the SEDAR and EDGAR systems. And with that, I'll now turn the call over to Randy Crawford.
Thank you, Adam, and good morning, everyone. I want to take a moment to extend our deepest sympathies to all of those who have been personally affected by the COVID-nineteen pandemic. The world is facing a challenge unlike any in modern history, grappling with the tragic global pandemic. And we remain focused on doing our part by continuing to provide our essential services to our customers. Our team is laser focused on ensuring delivery of vital clean energy, so our businesses and customers can continue to move forward with their daily lives to the greatest extent possible during these challenging times.
The foundation of AltaGas core values is built on an unwavering commitment to doing what is right. During the state of emergency, we have suspended disconnections and waived late fees to ensure our 1,600,000 customers have access to natural gas regardless of their economic circumstances. We fully recognize the strain on the frontline healthcare workers and the most vulnerable in our community and we have committed to provide more than $1,000,000 in donations to help support their efforts and needs. Our hope is that these steps will help our communities through these unsettled times and return from this pandemic stronger than ever. It is during these difficult times that our core values focused on leadership, innovation, adaptivity, resilience and excellence shine through.
I take a great deal of pride being part of this organization. At AltaGas, our employees understand the mission and have come together to exhibit these characteristics over the past several weeks. I'd like to take a moment to thank all AltaGas employees for their continued focus, hard work and execution during these challenging times. They are this company's greatest asset and why I'm confident in our ability to deliver on all of our expectations to our customers, shareholders and other stakeholders. As we focus on execution, the safety of our employees and the community is always our number one priority.
To ensure that our critical operations continue to operate both safety measures to protect the health and safety of our people. Thanks to the excellent response of our leadership team and the planning and coordination of our teams across the organization, We were able to mobilize our workforce and protect our people with limited disruptions to our daily business. Over the past several months, AltaGas has continued to execute across the board. Our distribution and midstream systems continue to perform in line with our excellent safety and reliability standards. The capital investments we made to build a stronger pipeline and technology infrastructure has allowed us to leverage automation and manage the work remotely minimizing our in person interaction.
1 of the most important core values is our commitment to operational excellence in all that we do. Our operations and construction teams continue to perform exceptionally, keeping our construction program on schedule and on budget. AltaGas financial performance for the Q1 reflects the strong operating performance across all our businesses. So let me turn to our strategic focus, which remains unchanged. The stable and predictable cash flows of our utility business combined with our higher growth midstream assets provides a unique investment proposition.
The quality and diversification of our assets positions us to deliver sustainable, attractive risk adjusted returns over the long run. At our utilities, our focus has been and will continue to be on delivering an excellent value proposition through safe and reliable systems and excellent customer service. The importance of the capital investments that we have made over the past several years have resulted in significant value during these difficult times. These investments, including the utilization of accelerated pipeline replacement programs, has made our infrastructure stronger and has improved our ability to efficiently deliver affordable, reliable, clean energy to our customers. While we continue to monitor the COVID-nineteen situation, our capital investment program remains on track.
The investments that we are making today are expected to provide meaningful customer benefits over the coming years. The flexibility provided by our annual pipeline replacement program mechanism combined with our operational cost effectiveness has helped position our utility to meet its financial commitments and continue to make long term investments during this uncertain time. Our commitment to delivering on the objectives that we have previously outlined to date has resulted in a $6,000,000 reduction in operating costs year over year and a 19% reduction in the incoming week rates. We attribute this success to our collaborative and forward thinking relationships with our stakeholders and our regulatory commissions. The collaboration and forward thinking of our state commissions has enabled us to improve our delivery system and better prepare us for these unprecedented times.
We continue to expect to generate significant customer and shareholder value over the coming years. Our utility strategy is centered on safety and reliability, capital discipline, growing the rate base through accelerated programs and reducing cost. We continue to drive towards a performance based culture to further enhance our capital efficiency and returns while maintaining affordable rates for our customers. In 2020, we expect over 10% earnings growth in our utility segment, underpinned by approximately 8% to 10% rate base growth, higher achieved returns through rate case settlements in 2019, increased utilization of accelerated replacement programs, lower leak remediation and operating costs and improving our customer experience. Similar to the utility, our strategic vision at Midstream remains unchanged and we believe the market opportunity for exports has never been greater.
In times when producers and consumers are dealing with the challenges of economic uncertainty and lower energy prices, we expect to help ease these impacts on customers by providing a much needed market to our RIPET and Ferndale facilities. Our priority for 2020 continues to be about execution in our core businesses. Our Midstream team had another terrific quarter, achieving record railcar offloading and vessel loading rates at Ripon. Despite rail blockades and the global health crisis, we loaded 6 ships in this quarter, keeping us on track to achieve our export goals of 50,000 barrels per day by year end. We continue to see strong and stable demand in Asia for Canadian propane exports, with 50,000 barrels per day of supply secured as of April 1, and approximately 33% under long term tolling agreements, demonstrating that our unique value proposition to deliver on our global export strategy is resilient and sustainable.
We further expanded our integrated strategy in the Q1 with the completion of North Pine and Townsend 2B expansions. Both expansions started flowing gas in April and will continue to contribute to earnings in the second quarter. And we added additional capacity for rail terminal at North Pine to handle the additional volumes. We firmly believe our strategy and the long term fundamentals of the Montney Basin. Strong economics of the Montney are positioned to continue to attract capital once the supply and demand stabilize and our market diversity and access to higher valuation markets will remain critical to Western Canadian producers.
With the significant recent growth in our supply commitments in tolling volumes and with our partnership in Petrogas, we continue to build a business focused on exporting and enhancing our complementary Northeast BC strategy. Our RIPET terminal and our future ownership in Ferndale has the capability to provide 120,000 barrels of LPG export capacity of cleaner energy to Asia. We continue to believe in the long term fundamentals of our structural shipping advantage, which provides us great confidence that our facilities remain highly utilized to connect North American production to the demand in Asia. The recent demand destruction we have witnessed in North America highlights the need for access to global markets. Our ability to provide producer market alternatives, including significant access to global markets, further distinguishes AltaGas in the Canadian midstream space.
While the COVID-nineteen pandemic has created significant uncertainty throughout the economy and resulted in a significant decline in energy prices, our midstream business is well positioned to continue to deliver on its objectives and its commitments. We do not currently expect any material financial or operational impacts as a result of the pandemic. Additionally, as a result of the actions that we took last year, our RIPET output is 85% hedged, including firm commitments for 16 cargoes and we continue to see strong demand for the remaining spot cargoes. Our midstream business is fully funded and we see a capital light program going forward that will position us to harvest additional cash flows into the future going forward. Despite the current economic challenges, the strength and diversity of AltaGas underlying business positions us to deliver on our forecasted financial results and guidance, while at the same time maintaining our investment grade ratings and most importantly, continuing reliable delivery service for our customers.
In summary, AltaGas remains well positioned to continue to execute both the near and long term horizons. Over the past year, we have focused on building a business that is resilient and able to deliver operational and financial stability for our customers and shareholders. We remain laser focused on extending that track record today and every day. Even throughout these unprecedented times, AltaGas maintains ongoing access to capital, which reflects the strength of our balance sheet as well as the overall resilience of our underlying business. We are a strong diversified energy infrastructure company with strategic assets and ample investment opportunities in our utility and midstream businesses.
We offer tremendous value to our customers, communities and shareholders, and I am confident that we will turn this current challenge on solid footing. With that, I will turn the call over to James to review our financial results.
Thanks, Randy, and good morning, everyone. During the Q1 of 2020, AltaGas revised its reportable segments to better align with our core focus areas in Utilities and Midstream. Our WGL Retail Marketing business now rolls up on the Utilities and all remaining power assets are included in the corporate other segment. Prior period segment information has been restated to conform to the current reportable segments. As you can see from our financials, we saw strong first quarter results from both the Utilities and Midstream segments, with the Utilities segment accounting for approximately 75% of normalized EBITDA.
Consolidated normalized EBITDA came in at $499,000,000 approximately four percent higher than Q1 2019, which is right in line with our expectations and gives us a solid start to 2020. Excluding the $34,000,000 reduction in normalized EBITDA associated with the $2,200,000,000 in non core asset sales that we executed 2019 to strengthen the balance sheet. Our first quarter normalized EBITDA would have increased by over 11% compared to 2019. 1st quarter growth was driven by strong operations at RIPET, inclusive of a one time realized hedging loss of $6,000,000 related to supply volumes, which were not sold until April, and growth in the utility segment of $34,000,000 from all the rate case work that was completed in 20 19 as well as increased revenue from accelerated pipe replacement programs. Normalized net income was $229,000,000 or $0.79 per share, up approximately 3% over Q1 2019.
This increase is due to the previously referenced EBITDA growth along with lower amortization and depreciation as a result of our 2019 asset sales and a $23,000,000 reduction in quarterly interest expense. These were partially offset by higher income tax expense during the quarter. Strong operating performance in the Utilities and Midstream business also flowed through funds from operation, which was up approximately 12% year over year to $420,000,000 1st quarter FFO also benefited from lower interest expense, driven by both lower average debt balances due to repayment of debt and lower average interest rates. On March 31, 2020, we completed the sale of our 37% interest in ACI for cash proceeds of approximately $369,000,000 This marks another significant milestone for AltaGas as the proceeds provide us greater flexibility in our ability to delever the company. Our self funded 2020 capital program remains intact after a strong Q1.
We are well positioned to fund our estimated $900,000,000 plan through internally generated cash flow and normal course borrowings and we maintain strong liquidity with approximately $4,100,000,000 available to us at the end of the quarter. Now diving into the segmented results and drivers, starting with our utilities segment. Normalized EBITDA at our utilities was $369,000,000,000 for the quarter, approximately 10% higher than the same quarter last year. The largest driver of growth year over year was at Washington Gas, which was positively impacted by the Maryland and Virginia rate cases, higher revenues associated with ARP spending, lower operating expenses of $6,000,000 that Randy mentioned earlier, and a stronger U. S.
Dollar. These positive factors were partially offset by warmer weather in D. C. Recall, we have low decoupling in Maryland and Virginia, so the results in those jurisdictions were not impacted by the warmer weather. SEMCO also contributed to higher normalized EBITDA, driven by new rate cases that came into effect at the start of this year, partially offset by warmer weather in Michigan.
Shifting to our Midstream segment, normalized EBITDA was $120,000,000 for the quarter. Factoring in the lost EBITDA of approximately $14,000,000 associated with the 2019 sale of Stonewall and Central Penn, our core midstream business grew at approximately 5 percent with RIPET being the largest contributor. Results in our base midstream business remain strong and we continue to see healthy volumes at our plants and new volumes from the Knick Creek facility. Favorable butane spreads provide a strong uplift to our NGL marketing business along with higher AFUDC related to Mountain Valley Pipeline. These positive factors were partially offset by lower storage spreads and transportation margins from WGL Midstream assets and lower equity earnings from Petroguezz.
In the Q1, we exported 35,141 barrels per day to markets in Asia through RIPET, averaging 2 ships per month despite the impact of rail blockades, which impacted deliveries into RIPET in February. RIPET's reported EBITDA was negatively impacted by a $6,000,000 realized hedge loss on approximately $10 per barrel. That said, the realized hedge loss will have a positive impact on 2nd quarter margins through lower inventory costs. As Randy mentioned earlier, we are achieving record railcar offloading and vessel loading rates and remain on track to hit our 50,000 barrel per day export target during 2020. We have secured the full 50,000 barrels of supply as at April 1 with approximately 33% now under long term tolling agreements.
Turning to our capital program and funding plan, the work we did last year to reposition the company to delever the balance sheet is paying off. We are well positioned to navigate through the coming quarters, investing primarily in our low risk utilities business using our self funding model, while maintaining a strong balance sheet and an investment grade credit rating. Our $900,000,000 capital program for 2020 is largely invested in our utilities with approximately 75% to 80% allocated to the segment. We expect to earn immediate returns on roughly 80% of our utility depreciation. The majority of midstream capital was focused on the Townsend and North Pine expansions, which were recently put into service.
Volumes from these projects will be ramping up over the next few months and we expect to see earnings contributions in the Q2. As I mentioned, we maintain significant liquidity that further minimizes our funding and capital market risk well beyond 2020. At the end of the quarter, we had approximately $4,100,000,000 of liquidity available to us, $1,000,000 in 20.20 and we're able to refinance approximately 7 $1,000,000 in 2020 and we're able to refinance approximately $780,000,000 in debt maturities year to date. Maintaining an investment grade credit rating is fundamental to our strategy as it provides us with greater financial flexibility at times like this. We have been proactive in communicating with the rating agencies and have a constructive relationship with them.
Our credit ratings remain unchanged. On April 3, Fitch affirmed their BBB stable rating for AltaGas. And on April 27, S and P affirmed their A- stable rating for WGL, citing no material persistent impact from the COVID-nineteen pandemic. Despite this challenging environment, our priorities have not changed and we continue to focus on maintaining a strong balance sheet, funding organic growth and returning capital to shareholders. Our outlook for 2020 remains unchanged with anticipated normalized EBITDA in the range of $1,275,000,000 to $1,325,000,000 and normalized EPS of $1.20 to $1.30 per share, underpinned by increasing contributions from our core businesses and lower interest expense due to lower leverage and interest rates.
As a diversified low risk, high growth utility and midstream company, we ourselves to deliver stable and reliable results through 2020. We expect the Utility segment to contribute approximately 60% of 2020 estimated normalized EBITDA. Our rate regulated utilities provide stability and growth through their steady and growing residential customer base, protected revenues and limited sensitivity to weather. Approximately 70% of our utilities revenue comes from residential customers and having effectively delivered safe and reliable service our strongest demand quarter, we feel comfortable entering the spring and summer months, which typically represent only 20% of annual demand. Approximately 70% of our utility revenue is protected through fixed billing charges, decoupling and other tracking mechanisms, which help minimize the impact of load variability associated with weather and other demand related pressures such as COVID-nineteen.
AltaGas currently has decoupling or demand trackers in Maryland and Virginia and has applied for them in the District of Columbia under the current rate case. As Randy noted, we have been actively working with regulators and DC, Maryland, Alaska, Michigan and Virginia have all issued orders that will allow us to track and recover any incremental COVID costs including bad debts through the establishment of regulatory assets. In midstream, our unique export strategy is underpinned by strong long term fundamentals. The demand for clean and propane in Asia is growing. The long term supply and demand imbalance supports the need for Canadian exports and the Montney continues to have some of those breakeven prices in North America.
We have limited direct commodity price exposure in our midstream business. About a third of RIPET's 2020 estimated volumes are contracted under long term take or pay agreements with an average remaining term of about 7 years. We have also hedged approximately 80% of RIPET's 2020 volumes at price similar to 2019. Including contracted tolling arrangements, approximately 86% of RIPET's propane export volumes are hedged for 2020. At our other midstream facilities, we have hedges in place for approximately 93% of our 10,000 barrels per day of frac exposed NGL volumes.
In summary, we are confident in our 2020 outlook with 60% of 2020 estimated normalized EBITDA coming from the utility segment and 80% from utilities and investment grade counterparties. We also expect some tailwinds with the stronger average Canadian U. S. Dollar exchange rate with approximately 70% of EBITDA being supported by low risk regulated U. S.
Assets. Our strategy was designed to result in reliable, attractive long term earnings and the work we have done to date provides us with financial flexibility. I believe that the combination of our strategy and strong financial stability provides us with us with the resilience to work through these unprecedented times. With that, I will turn the call over to the operator to facilitate the Q and A session. Operator?
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now conduct the analyst question and answer session. Your first question comes from Rob Hope from Scotiabank. Your line is open.
Good morning, everyone.
Good morning, Rob.
All right. Two questions. The first one is just on the visibility and the progress that you've made so far in reducing costs of WGL, which then will allow you to improve your ROE. The $6,000,000 leak or $6,000,000 reduction in leak remediation costs that you saw in Q1, can you just give a sense of how you see the rest of the year playing out? And wouldn't the $6,000,000 be a significant portion of what the cost a significant portion of the cost improvement that you're expecting in 2020?
Yes, Rob. This is Randy. Look, I think we're making excellent progress in our operational excellence model and we're just at the beginning. I think the investments that we're making in our accelerated pipeline replacement program is reducing expenses and it's reducing leaks much more than historically. And there's clearly a correlation between this pipeline investment as shown in this quarter that reduced our operating cost.
So we remain on plan for our target this year. In fact, we're ahead of it. And again, as you pointed out, it's a combination of our operational excellence model as well as updating our rates and our jurisdictions that are going to get us to a loud return. So a bit ahead of schedule, but we're consistent with the guidance and the plan that we put forward. And we'll continue to update as we move forward through the year.
All right. That's helpful. And then just pivoting over to RIPET, just want to get a sense of how many ships you did in April as well as you had 50,000 barrels a day supply available to you in April, but you do talk to a 50,000 barrel a day kind of exit rate in terms of RIPET. So it does imply that you could be hitting 50,000 sooner rather than later?
Yes. I'll let Randy Toon comment here. But I will tell you, we are we have experienced increasing Canadian demand access, this unique capability. And we've got a lot of strong interest from suppliers and clearly strong demand in Asia for the premium prices. The limitation really is on the rail challenges, but the team is working every day to maximize and improve the logistics to reach the maximum capacity.
I'll let Randy comment on the ships in April.
Hey, Rob, it's Randy Toon. We did 2 ships in April, which was consistent with plan and our plan is to do 3 ships in May. As far as the 50,000 barrels go, we have contracted 50,000 barrels, but it doesn't show up all at once. So we roughly did about 45,000 barrels through April. And our target is still to do 50,000 barrels the rest of the year.
All right. Thank you.
Your next question comes from Ben Pham from BMO. Your line is open.
Okay. Thanks. Good morning. I also wanted to follow-up on RIPET 2 and trying to dig into this realized wash you booked. I mean you the $6,000,000 are you basically bringing
higher cost inventory forward in
the quarter and you've took off some hedges, you see a benefit in Q2, is that what was going on there?
Hey, Bill, it's James. Yes, that's exactly right. I mean, obviously, we settle those hedges. And when you settle a financial derivative, you basically have to realize the gain or loss associated with it. The physical delivery of that inventory though was in April.
So the cost of that inventory that was sitting in the tank at RIPET was lower as a result of that hedge loss being realized in Q1. So the margins in Q2 should be better as a result of that lower inventory.
Okay. And I would assume that's mostly on the non pulling portion, which I would assume the pulling propane cost is a pass
through.
Is that correct? Yes. Okay. And then this inventory benefit, is this something persists in the second half as well or is it to be determined?
No, this is a timing issue just related, like I said, to the settlement of the financial contract relative to the physical delivery. If the contract had been rolled, if the financial derivative had been rolled, then this would have matched into Q2 deliveries. It's a one time timing issue.
Okay. All right. Can you maybe switch over to the dividend and maybe talk about dividend sustainability and you talked about the strength and resiliency of your business. Maybe speak to the dividend payout ratio targets and how do you think about those payout ratios and as you see through COVID-nineteen impacts?
Yes. Ben, I'll let James touch on that. But as you know, about 1.5 years ago, we had a substantial cut in our dividend. And from that point, we've been executing consistent to the plan in terms of our looking forward in our business plan. And it's a key part of our business strategy.
But I'll let James go ahead and talk about the specifics.
Yes, Ben,
I think Randy touched on one of the most salient points. I mean, the tough decision to cut the dividend was taken in 2018 and it was cut to a level that we consider to be sustainable. If you look at the FFO growth that we've generated year over year and we're reaffirming our guidance with respect to EPS growth at the current level of 0.96 dollars that's about a 70% to 75% payout ratio. So we consider it sustainable from an FFO standpoint, consider it sustainable from an EPS payout standpoint, and it is underpinned by continued strong growth in the cash flows of our utilities. The utility EBITDA generation will continue to represent the majority of our business going forward, and we feel that that's a strong underpinning and support.
All right. That's great. Maybe one last one to me. Any sort of timing update on the put option, perhaps petrogas? Is there a hard date to get to respond back?
Yes. Well, as I stated before, we're in the evaluation process period and I'm not really able to fully discuss our strategy. But I can tell you that taking control of interest in Petrobras will allow us to consolidate the EBITDA, provide monthly cash flows versus our equity distributions. The put process is an integral process and at this point, it's I wouldn't want to speculate or provide details until we there's more certainty really into the timeline. We're working through the process.
Okay, that's great. Thanks everybody.
Your next question comes from Linda Ezergailis from TD Securities. Your line is open.
Thank you. Just a follow-up to Ben's question on the petrogas. What factors need to be in place for you to exercise your conversion of the prefs there to increase your ownership to 37%? And might that happen just before you take ownership? Or what are the puts and takes on that front?
James, I'll let you go ahead and take that.
Yes, Linda, we do have the ability and the right under our agreements to exercise our prefs and convert them into common. We haven't crystallized our thinking, but right now the most desirable approach for us is to most likely do that conversion before we close the deal.
Okay. Thank you. And what were the drivers for the $12,000,000 year over year decline in petrogas? Was it your crude oil marketing, something else?
Yes, it was predominantly crude oil marketing side of the business and some realized hedge losses at Petrogas in Q1 relative to Q1 of 2019.
Okay. Thank you. And maybe just bigger picture, your discussions with the rating agencies look stable. Clearly, your business is very resilient. But I'm just wondering if you could give us a sense of if you're still on track to achieve 5.5 times debt to EBITDA by the end of 2020 and keep it and how much further based on your plans might you be able to deleverage in 2021?
And is that still an appropriate target or might there be some moving goalposts where you further shift that?
Yes. I mean, if we look at our current outlook for the year that we're reaffirming here today, we feel that we can get to the 5.5 times target by the end of this year, just given the stability in the utility business and obviously the fact that we've hedged a big portion of our midstream cash flow. So we do feel comfortable that 5 point 5 times is possible. Looking beyond 2020, obviously, we continue to have at our disposal non core assets that we'd like to continue to monetize, and that's going to help us to further strengthen the balance sheet moving forward beyond 2020. So we still feel that those are achievable and with a better macro backdrop can move forward with some of those asset monetizations that we still have at our disposal on the power side.
That's helpful context. And I realize that you're busy with ensuring everyone's safe and your on on what factors might need to be in place to consider potentially deepening your relationship with Idemitsu in your joint venture. In the past, there's been musings about further petrochemical investments. Clearly, there's a valuation disconnect between propane that you're leveraging for RIPET. And I'm just wondering if there might be any sort of possibility of further investments down the road and what attributes would need to be in place for those to be compelling to AltaGas?
Well, Linda, from a strategic they're an excellent partner and we're very fortunate with Amitsu to have them as an excellent partner. And right now, we're staying the course. We certainly we're looking always at being opportunistic. My view, more macro on partnerships is that if you can get 1 plus 1 equals 3, then you've got some real value in what you're doing. So we'll continue to look at ways into the future to expand.
But right now, as you said, we've got our laser focused on executing the plans that we've put in place, maximizing the utilization of RIPET and ultimately integrating Petro Gas. So your points are well taken and we'll be opportunistic. But at this point, we're pretty well focused on the task at hand.
Okay. And just I'll jump in the queue and a moment, but just another kind of strategic updated thought from you on what sort of synergies do you still see between your midstream and utilities businesses? And at what point might there be more benefit in focused separate operations of those 2 platforms?
I've discussed this before, Linda, and overall, we have 2 excellent businesses, and we are leveraging synergies with around operational excellence, gas control. Our utility does an excellent job of managing its product each and every day. And then in the logistics associated with moving our people and our product every day and they're operationally excellent in what they do. Similar to our midstream business and we're building a world class midstream business and leveraging a lot of those capabilities and infrastructures that go across both businesses, a combined 2 businesses running under excellence around engineering and construction. But as we continue to add scale and grow those businesses, We'll look at into the future and whether it makes sense for those businesses that they're large enough to be separate.
But at this point, that's way down the road and we see the value right now in these two businesses combined at AltaGas.
Great. Thank you. I'll jump back in the queue.
Your next question comes from Robert Catellier from CIBC. Your line is open.
Hi. You've answered most of my questions, but I do want to go back to petrogas for a minute. Given the extreme volatility in the energy market, it seems quite possible that there's going to be a divergence of opinions on valuation. So I'm wondering in that context, what options do either of the parties have to defer a potential transaction?
Well, with respect to your latter point, our agreements are pretty clear as we go through a variety of different independent valuations and their stages. But then as I said, I want to get into the details of that, but I'm confident that it will be an accretive transaction for AlfaGas and it's obviously extremely strategic in terms of our future around growing our export capabilities. So the process will go forward. We will be operating it down the road and but it's a significant amount of time and process that goes through with independent expert valuations.
More to come. Okay. Thank you. That's helpful. And maybe one question for Randy.
Randy, too. I'm just curious on the trends you're seeing on the customer behavior in the gathering and processing business and what type of impacts that might have on fee for service volume?
So, yes, the luckily we like Randy said, we have a capital light program. So we built out our processing capacity through 2017 through 2019, a little bit in 2020. And that processing capacity is very valuable because of our integrated midstream offering. And so we do see volumes coming into our facilities and we do have take or pays behind that. But there's no doubt that there is going to be a pullback given what's going on in the commodity environment.
But long term, the Montney is one of the best resources in the world and it will be developed and we think we have great assets in the right spots of the Montney.
Okay. Thank you.
Your next question comes from Robert Kwan from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Great. Good morning. If I can just high level just dig in a little bit to the outlook or the guidance that you've got. In the past quarter, you cited weather as well as WGL Midstream as being a drag. On COVID-nineteen, you've got the regulatory protection and seasonality help.
So I think the utility should probably be okay unless you have other comments. But a couple of other factors. Can you comment about the unregulated midstream volumes, but it sounded a little more longer you commented on the midstream volumes, but it sounded a little bit more longer term. Can you just talk about real time what you're seeing in volumes for versus say Q1 and if there's any expectation volumes falling off for the remainder of the year?
Yes. Well, I'll take your first part on the retail business. It's a very small part of our overall businesses around our utility and we've obviously stress test all of those related to the volume. So from the gas side of the business, we're into we've just come out of our largest volume quarter and we have seasonal businesses there. So less volumes in the second and third quarter, a little bit of power exposure.
But overall, we expect those to be down, but not a material impact overall to our guidance going forward. Your second question was with respect to volume growth behind our systems, is that right?
Yes. Okay.
Yes. Randy, you want me to go?
Yes.
So as we disclosed, we just started up our Townsend expansion. So we've added the deep cut capability to Townsend and that's those volumes are going to ramp up over the next few months. Our customers are they've had drilled those wells and there's volume behind pipe and they plan on bringing those wells on. They do see the value of the gas price right now. Some of our customers have shut in their oil wells that have little very little gas or associated gas behind them.
So we do still feel confident that even near term, the volumes will be there. We have seen some shut ins around our Harmattan gas plant, but it's nonmaterial to the overall midstream business. And like I say, long term, we think the Montney is going to be developed.
Yes. And I would just add, look, we fully believe that the export is the future for North America, for propane, for butane and we're well positioned for that. And in that area of our business, it just continues to grow and we've experienced increasing demand for that unique capability. And while our integrated approach will continue to grow, as Randy had said, it may moderate. But we're in an excellent position as we've been not a lot of money into these businesses and we feel that the growth in RIPET, which is generating significant cash, and we feel good about the Asian demand and the margins in this business.
So that structural advantage in the access to global markets is where we're going to continue to grow. And we've got a lot of interest from large aggregators. So again, if not everything will come through our facilities, but we'll continue to see demand coming from across the basin.
So maybe if I can just summarize, if I think about or where you were standing in December when you set the guidance, whether in the Q1 is a headwind, which also at both the utility and WGL Midstream and then a little bit on the unregulated retail. It doesn't sound like there's a lot happening on midstream volumes and then the tailwind being taller. Are there any other changes that you can envision in December kind of pushing the numbers within guidance?
Well, James can come, but the FX is obviously a tailwind as well right now.
Yes. That's I mean, that is a material factor. I mean, if you look at the sensitivities in our MD and A, $0.05 change is about a $35,000,000 upside from an EBITDA standpoint. So the tailwinds there are significant, Robert. But I want to go back to your comments on the retail side of the business.
That is an extremely small piece of the overall business. So even if we had a and I'm throwing this out there as an example, even if we had a 20% pullback in demand there, I don't think that that really moves the needle. It represents about 3% of our consolidated EBITDA.
Okay. That makes sense. Turning to debt expense and any temporary payment deferrals? So even though you've got the regulatory asset treatment, I'm just wondering, is it material enough to impact your ability to hit that target?
Yes, it's a good question. So we have not seen at this point any material spike in or slowdown in collections. I mean, if I you saw obviously in Q1, we had a working capital unwind. That's continued into the entire month of April. So we haven't seen anything material there.
If we go back to the global financial crisis, I think back in 2008, 2009, I think timeframe they saw about a $10,000,000 spike in bad debt. So I don't think that that puts pressure on it. I think from a coverage ratio standpoint, the regulatory asset accounts are going to provide some assistance for us and not take any of that P and L hit on ratios. But obviously, working capital would have to obviously grow a little bit and we'll have to take on a little more leverage. But that's all been discussed with the rating agencies when we reached out and were proactive and we continue to feel comfortable with the most salient metrics that they track, especially S and P and that's our FFO to debt metric.
Got it. And I guess, help me, sir. Well, I
just wanted to add, this is Randy. As I mentioned, we're entering the lower usage months at the utility, right? We have 6 months of the weather to weather the storm before there's really any impact. And so I think we're in an excellent position when this gets under control and we get back to some sense of normal in the Q4.
That makes sense. And just last still on the leverage. What do you think is an appropriate level for your company longer term just given the 5.5 times metric and that's kind of your calculation. I think it's closer to 6 in the rating agencies with the press. But you don't see a lot of utilities up at that level and certainly we've seen the stream companies up at that level.
So where would you like to be longer term?
Well, we've said consistently and both Randy have said it Randy and I have said it since joining that we'd like to be under 5 times. I mean if you exclude the press, that's probably somewhere a little higher than if you include the press, that's somewhere a little higher than 5. But if you look at some of the Canadian utilities, they've got leverage that it's in the high fives from a debt to EBITDA standpoint. But I'll go back to what we said last year and we continue to manage towards it. We've got enough in the way of non core assets still available to us to monetize as things get better and we get better macro backdrop that allow us to get under 5 times net EBITDA in a medium to long term basis.
And I agree been clear about that and we want to be down below that. We will be. The environment is a bit clearly with asset sales, but we're not desperate to sell. And in the long run, we have some excellent remaining non core assets and that will work in the long term throughout this year to continue to monetize those and be able to meet those metrics going forward.
Great. Thank you very much.
Your next question comes from Julien Dumoulin Smith from Bank of America. Your line is open.
Hey, good morning team. Thank you so much. So perhaps following up on the last part of the questions on the utilities. Can you elaborate a little bit? I mean, obviously, you continue to articulate these cost savings targets.
And obviously, you're entering in low season of utilization with respect to gas facilities. But that being said, are you still on track? Do you see any when you think about the sales impacts in aggregate through the course the cumulative course of the year, do you see any pressure relative to your ability or your plan to achieve your earned ROEs you've already articulated? Just want to make sure that you feel good, A, against the sales and B, to the extent which is necessary to raise those cost targets to offset to mitigate those concerns?
Yes, Julian, look, confident we're going to hit those targets. I'm going to let Blue Jenkins give you a bit more detail because he and the management team that is in place is doing an excellent job and is on track. So Blue, I'll let you comment on Julian's question.
Yes. Thanks, Randy. Julien, good question. As you recall and you can see it in the presentation, so the ROE process will continue improvement on the return will continue this year and into 2021. So we don't see anything both near term as a result of COVID or anything else that would impact that process.
As you saw in Q1, we're able to drive our costs down a bit better than budget. We have a plan to continue to do that through the course of the year. So I think the actions we're taking, I think given the revenue conversation that we've had earlier in terms of the rate cases and some of the protections that exist, I think we will get there by the end of 2021 and it still feels pretty good from where we sit today.
Excellent. Welcome. If I can ask
a quick follow-up here. Going back to the midstream side
of the business and you talked about confidence reaffirmation this year around RIPET more broadly. Can you talk about the actions you're taking out at derisk the business prospectively beyond the current year to firm up the outlook? And then especially looking at RIPET more specifically, your confidence level on sustaining cash flows and more importantly probably scaling the volume still given the backdrop?
Yes. The simple answer is I feel pretty good about it, because we are consistently being approached by large aggregators who want access to our unique capabilities. So from a volume perspective and from a tolling perspective on our targets and derisking of these assets, I feel very good about that and that we're in a strong position to continue to meet those objectives. It's a very unique capability. When you're in a point, as I said in my prepared remarks, when there's reductions in North American demand, access to global markets are absolutely essential and we're seeing strong demand, strong demand on the supply side and strong demand on the Asian markets.
So that gives me a great deal of confidence.
Got it. And your commentary is multiyear there, right?
I'm sorry, sorry?
Your commentary applies beyond 'twenty one beyond 'twenty one on a list, right, on scale?
Yes, it does. My comment is related to 2020 beyond.
Okay. I'll leave it there. Thank you, guys.
Your next question comes from Patrick Kenny from National Bank Financial. Your line is open.
Hey, guys. Thanks for all the updates this morning. Yes, just thinking about the midstream business here, I guess outside of lower fee for service volumes, curious if you've had or expect to have any further discussions with your non investment grade customers with respect to restructuring any of the take or pay commitments across the portfolio or perhaps any other form of support for your customers' netbacks just until commodity prices recover? Or do you believe that the other recent government support that was announced through the EDC loans will be enough to see them through to the other side of this?
Yes, I think it's certainly a challenging time for many. But our decision to create the ability to export propane in Asia through RIPET and that's a unique value proposition is really helping our customers and that's the role that we're playing the benefits of creating a new demand for Canadian producers, helping them get better netbacks and help them position better to recover from the storm that they're encountering. So we'll continue to work with them. We don't see any material. We stress about talking to all of our customers.
But as I said, we continue to expand our supply mix and customers in increasing with larger and diversified high quality aggregators.
Okay. Switching gears, you guys touched on Blythe. Just to clarify, as it relates to pursuing a potential sale of that asset at some point, now that the new tolling agreement was approved in the quarter? Or is that process simply just not feasible in this environment?
I think we I wouldn't say it's not feasible. We've got processes and we're looking toward that. But as I mentioned that we're not going to sell assets for less than in the market than the value and we are in a strong position. We don't have to do that. So you can imagine this environment that transactions around asset sales are a bit challenged.
But that's a short run. I think in the medium to long term, we'll be able to execute and get fair value going forward.
Okay, fair enough. And then last one here maybe for James. You touched on the credit ratings. Just wanted to confirm that your corporate IG rating and stable outlook has been recently reaffirmed by the rating agencies or was that just for WGL? And also you mentioned the funding that's been executed year to date.
Also wanted to confirm that do you see the need to be in the debt markets over the remainder of 2020? I believe it's a small $200,000,000 note that's due in June. Or is the plan to wait until the economy reopens?
Yes. No, that's good. So just on the first part of your Pat, on the rating agencies, Fitch came out and affirmed the rating of AltaGas and the entire group of companies that they rate. So that was inclusive of the utilities and WGL Holdings as well. S and P put out a specific report on WGL and had no issues with ALA.
So they left the rating where it is for ALA. So BBB- stable outlook. And in our conversations with DBRS, they didn't take any rating actions either. So they left the ratings as they were when we they all came out in December as part of our annual review. On the refinancing and the $980,000,000 in maturity, dollars 780,000,000 of that was at the WGL Holdings and CEMCO level, and those deals were closed at the end of April.
The $200,000,000 maturity that we have coming up at ALA, we have enough capacity on the line to be able to repay that on maturity. And if we see credit spreads tighten and we see a window in the market, then we will access it at favorable pricing. We have seen people access the markets and especially utilities and infrastructure companies with stable cash flows, and we feel that we've got those characteristics. So we're just going to monitor things and decide when the right time is to do that refinancing longer term.
Got it. Okay. Thanks again guys.
Thank you.
Your next question comes from Andrew Kuske from Credit Suisse. Your line is open.
Thanks. Good morning. Obviously, it was a volatile quarter, but could you maybe give us some context on just how your risk management systems performed amidst the volatility and then any tweaks you've made to your systems in light of what happened?
James, I'll let you go ahead.
Randy, you want me to take that? Yes. Look, I mean, I just before I talk about some of the specific risk management practices, I just want to take the chance to reiterate that when you look at our trailing 12 month revenue, we're at 70% to 75% investment grade at the midstream business, right. And if you layer in, the utilities were well north of 80 percent. But in terms of risk management practices and things we do short term with some of the counterparties that we have that are below investment grade.
I mean, we've always been marketing NGLs and gas for some of these entities. And as a result, we settle our tolls first. And if there's any AR balances remaining at a month end or quarter end, we typically have letters of credit that backstop those exposures to our customers. And obviously from a medium to longer term standpoint, we still feel confident that the assets that we have are positioned in a very prolific basin. And as a result of that, it's a desirable basin when consolidation happens and some of the stronger producers look to consolidate those positions.
We feel that we're well positioned for those volumes to flow to our plants. So that's we've always been very active on the risk management front and those are some of the examples of things that we do through this period.
And then any substantial changes to the policies or really steady as she goes and everything held up really well with the volatility that we saw?
Well, I think we have always had appropriate policies to deal with a credit risk assessment of our customers. So I mean, if your question is, have we become more aggressive on LCs that we've always been I think we've always been aggressive when it comes to dealing with sub investment grade counterparties based on market demands for them to post LCs. I mean even on cargoes that we ship to Asia, if they're sub investment grade, then we demand LCs to backstop those exposures to In
the back office, In the back office, we have our risk committee and policies. And it's a I mean, this is a low risk, higher growth utility and midstream company. So it's a key part of how we manage this business every day. So this is just a testament to when you stress the system as it would for many companies, how well we've held up in the quality of our risk management tool.
Yes. I guess that's the gist of it
as you had a 6 Sigma event and everything held up really well.
You got it. Exactly. Thank you for that question.
Okay. That's great. Thank you.
Your last question comes from Elias Foscolos from Industrial Alliance Securities. Your line is open.
Good morning. Just one quick question, probably directed to 1 or 2 of the Randys. I believe, Randy, in your opening remark, you said 120,000
barrels a
day of combined propane and butane export capability off the West Coast. And I guess, I recall RIPET having a maximum capacity of 80 and the Ferndale facility of 30. So is there some optimization that you can see?
Yes. No, that's look, the optimization really is around the logistics, right, in the rail and the optimization these facilities can do those capability. But the limiting factor is really the logistics around getting the number of ships out and being able to get the supply there. So what I was referencing was underlying capability and the amount of ships that could be there. But the key driver is going to be around the rail and the logistics to get the product to maximize.
And as I said, the team is working on that each and every day to work toward the logistics of maximizing supply and export volumes. Randy, I don't know if you want to add any?
Yes, Randy, it's Randy Toon. And RIPET is capable of 80,000 barrels a day and Ferndale is actually capable 40,000 barrels a day, not 30. So that's where we get to 120,000 barrels a day.
Okay, then. Thanks for that clarification.
That's it.
This concludes the Q and A portion of today's call. I will now turn the call back to Mr. McKnight.
Thanks, Julianne, and thank you everyone once again for joining our call this morning and for your interest in AltaGas. Just as a reminder, the Investor Relations team will be available after the call if you've got any follow-up questions. And that concludes our call this morning. I hope you enjoy the rest of your day. And you may now disconnect your phone lines.