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Earnings Call: Q1 2024

May 9, 2024

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Altius Minerals Corporation Q1 2024 conference call and webcast. At this time, all lines are in listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. If at any time during this call you require assistance, please press star zero for the operator. This call is being recorded on Thursday, May 9th, 2024. I would now like to turn the conference over to Stephanie Hussey, VP of Finance, who is substituting in for Ms. Flora Wood in Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Stephanie Hussey
VP of Finance, Altius Minerals Corporation

Thank you, and good morning, everybody. Welcome to our Q1 2024 conference call. Our press release and interim filings were released yesterday and are available on our website. This event is being webcast live, and you'll be able to access a replay of this call along with the presentation slides that have been added to our website at altiusminerals.com. Brian Dalton, CEO, and Ben Lewis, CFO, will speak on the call. The forward-looking statement on slide two applies to everything we say in our formal remarks and during our Q&A session. With that, Ben will take you through the numbers.

Ben Lewis
CFO, Altius Minerals Corporation

Thank you, Stephanie, and good morning, everyone. Royalty revenue for Q1 2024 was CAD 17.4 million, compared to CAD 21.4 million in Q1 2023. Revenue and adjusted EBITDA for the quarter were impacted by lower coal and potash revenue, and partially offset by the growth of renewable royalty revenue, which we present on a consolidated 100% basis. The Minerals Royalty segment had an EBITDA margin of 75% in Q1 2024, compared to 86% in Q1 2023. Quarter's margin was also impacted by higher professional fees associated with the Silicon arbitration. The Renewable Royalty segment had an EBITDA margin of 75% and 36% for the current and prior year quarters, respectively, reflecting the growth in the renewable royalty revenue. Q1 2024 adjusted operating cash flow of CAD 5.5 million compares to CAD 4.5 million in Q1 of last year. The increase is largely reflective of lower cash taxes.

Q1 2023 included foreign taxes paid of CAD 903,000 to a Chilean tax authority in relation to a distribution of funds received in 2022. Net earnings of CAD 4.8 million or CAD 0.10 per share compares to net earnings of CAD 5.5 million or CAD 0.11 per share in 2023. The Renewable Royalty segment included GBR's non-cash equity to early-stage development investments, as well as CAD 1.6 million in interest expense related to GBR's new credit facility. Net earnings for the quarter were also affected by the higher cost of sales on our Chapada copper stream. Q1 2024 adjusted net earnings of CAD 0.07 per share is consistent with the first quarter of 2023 and includes adjustments for realized and unrealized gains associated with derivatives, as well as foreign exchange revaluations. ARR reported its Q1 2024 results on May 2nd, and details can be found on ARR's website.

ARR is expected to continue its trend of revenue growth with the Q1 commencement of operations at the Canyon Wind Project, the expected near-term commencement at the El Sauz Wind Project, and the recently acquired Angelo Solar Project, which is expected to contribute revenue in Q4 of this year. Allocation and liquidity. During the quarter, we made our scheduled debt repayments of CAD 2.0 million, paid CAD 10 million, and issued 7,800 common shares under the corporation's dividend reinvestment plan. The corporation repurchased and canceled 429,000 shares under its normal course issuer bid, for a total cost of CAD 8.2 million during the quarter. The board of directors also approved a CAD 0.09 quarterly dividend, an increase of 12.5% from the previous quarterly dividend. This dividend will be paid to shareholders of record on May 31st, with a payment date of June 14th.

Our current liquidity consists of CAD 10.5 million in cash at the end of Q1 2024, and we have CAD 93 million in unused revolver room on our credit facility. ARR held cash of $67 million at the end of Q1. In addition, on May 2nd, Altius Minerals received CAD 9.6 million from Adventus Mining Corp on settlement of an outstanding loan receivable, all part of Adventus's plan of arrangement with Silvercorp, announced on April 25th. We continue to hold the 2% net smelter return royalty on the Curipamba El Domo Project, which, with the acquisition by Silvercorp, appears to be fully funded. And with that, I'll turn it over to Brian.

Brian Dalton
CEO, Altius Minerals Corporation

Thank you, Ben, and thank you. Last quarter, we noted that the widely forecast looming supply-demand deficit in copper is no longer looming. It has begun. This seems to be gaining broader market recognition now, with a meaningful price response in place. A couple of years ago, we would have said incentivization. This is not the current case, though, as the capital and operating cost increases in the industry over that time have pushed that bar significantly higher. Things are heading in the right direction. Lithium prices continue to show signs of stabilizing as higher cost production is forced from the market and broader price discovery for this nascent commodity continues.

The same can be said for nickel in some ways, as the ability of new production from Indonesia to drive down the cost curve seems to be reaching its limits as near-planned high-grading opportunities in that region have now exhausted themselves. Potash continues to show demand recovery at current price levels and to be reverting to its long-term global demand growth trendline. We also note that Mosaic continues to drive up capacity at Esterhazy through incremental investments, and that operation can now boast. As an offset to the end of coal royalties within our portfolio, ARR had another strong quarter with continuing ramp-ups both from existing investments as well as new investment deployments. The new investments have been able to utilize the non-dilutive debt facility that was put in place last year. This has been important given that equity valuations for the sector continue.

Index now trading at one-third of the levels it did at the time of the ARR IPO just over three years ago now. To put this in context, if ARR's performance had simply matched the relevant index since IPO, it would now be trading at less than $4 a share. Kudos to Frank and the team for that relative outperformance, as they've successfully seized upon the long-term opportunities provided by the depressed conditions. It is also worth noting here that subsequent to the quarter, our appeal of our coal expropriation lawsuit was dismissed by the Alberta Court of Appeal, despite the contrary guidance that the Supreme Court of Canada provided last year. In essence, it said that it did not want to uphold law that would cause governments to pay for private property expropriations when making regulatory decisions on environmental grounds.

We never, in this entire process, ever objected to the right of government to make regulatory decisions for whatever reasons it deemed fit, including on environmental or climate change grounds. We merely argued that if those decisions caused the effect of expropriation of pre-existing property rights, then compensation was due, a position that NGO groups fought strenuously against, including as intervenors in our case. We believe still that the SCC decision agreed with our position, but apparently the Alberta Court of Appeal felt that protecting the public purse was more important than protecting Canadian private property owners from uncompensated government takings. It is a sad day for the law on property rights in Canada, in our opinion, and one that should give all [audio distortion].

We still find it ironic that in the year that we made our investment in Alberta, it was deemed as the safest mining investment jurisdiction in the world by the Fraser Institute. Our only potential future course from here is to appeal to be heard by the Supreme Court of Canada. This is not a light decision by any means, however, and one we continue to deliberate on with our counsel. In iron ore, benchmark prices were very volatile, first declining significantly but since rebounding nicely as steel margins show improvement. IOC had a better operational quarter after recent issues and continues to invest strongly in refurbishment and growth initiatives. We talked about Champion's positive study results for Kami during our last call and won't repeat here, other than to note that it continues to advance next milestones.

We understand Champion to continue to be busy with efforts to partner the project, and it has now registered the project environmental assessment materials. Silicon, wow. Subsequent to the quarter, we got a first look at AngloGold Ashanti's current conceptual-level mining plans for Merlin, for which it published a more than 9 million ounce maiden resource during the quarter, while noting continuing good growth potential. What really stood out on this is the potential impact on early years' production rates that the higher-grade domains offer. If these plans are realized upon, Merlin alone will represent one of, if not the largest gold mines by production rate in the world at its peak. Incredible. This is before even considering the adjacent Silicon deposit resource area and the ongoing exploration potential of this newly recognized world-class gold system and district.

Also, subsequent to the quarter end, we completed the in-person hearing portion of our arbitration to determine the full geographic extent of our royalty rights in the Silicon district. Both sides are scheduled to file post-hearing briefs and replies by May 28th, and then we will await the decision of the arbitrators. It should also be noted here, to avoid any confusion, that the vast majority of currently known resources at Merlin and all of the known resources at Silicon are not in dispute. The arbitration deals with the broader district-scale land holdings that AGA has consolidated. With that, I can turn it over to questions.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session. If you do have a question, please press star followed by one on your touch-tone phone. You will hear a three-tone prompt acknowledging your request, and your questions will be polled in the order they are received. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press star followed by two. If you're using a speakerphone, please lift your handset before pressing any keys. One moment for your first question. Your first question comes from Brian MacArthur with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Brian MacArthur
Managing Director, Raymond James

Good morning, and thank you for taking my questions. Just following up on the last comments for Silicon, which is obviously very exciting. Can you just go through how the process works after May 28? Is this something that can go on for years and get appealed up higher, or what's your understanding of how this resolution will happen? Because I guess then it probably impacts how you look at potentially creating value with this.

Brian Dalton
CEO, Altius Minerals Corporation

Yeah, so the arbitration clause in the agreement is completed under international arbitration laws using BC as the base. The decision is binding. So really, the only way to appeal a binding arbitration decision is if there's some material error in law. These are very professional arbitrators. I can't really speak to how long it will take them after receiving final submissions to make their decision, but it's a dedicated tribunal to this case, so it'll get their full attention.

Brian MacArthur
Managing Director, Raymond James

And given, as you mentioned, the high production rates in the early years, potentially at Silicon, and I realize it's still preliminary, have you changed your views about potentially looking at all options to monetize the value here, whether it be swapping, selling, or is it just better to keep it now?

Brian Dalton
CEO, Altius Minerals Corporation

I think we're looking at it still pretty much the same. All options are definitely on the table. We'd be open to a sale, particularly if it involved assets coming our way. But again, Silicon, we said this before, is a deposit that ticks all the boxes that Altius looks for in terms of strong upside, continuing upside potential, large-scale, good counterparty, long life, expandable. So we're also quite open to the idea of having it become what it looks like now, probably a very core part of our portfolio if we choose to maintain it.

Brian MacArthur
Managing Director, Raymond James

Thank you. My last question just relates to the junior portfolio. Just a couple of questions. In that CAD 45.4 million, maybe this is for Ben, I assume that's where the Orogen Royalties position is. Then the second thing is, the Adventus receivable in that CAD 45 million, or was that sitting somewhere outside? My third question related to that, Ben, is just where does that Adventus loan receivable sit on the balance sheet now?

Ben Lewis
CFO, Altius Minerals Corporation

Yeah, the Adventus loan receivable is not included in that. And your first question, I think you were asking about the other word, Orogen shares. So the Orogen shares are included in that. And yeah, I can't recall exactly when we exercised the warrants on that. I think it may have been after quarter end, but so just the value of the warrants would be in there at the quarter end.

Brian MacArthur
Managing Director, Raymond James

Right. That's what I'm trying to figure out. So you would have you're going to get more cash in from the Adventus. That CAD 9.6, the loan outstanding would have been forced. You're going to have extra cash and a profit over and above that CAD 45.4, right, for cash resulting in this going forward?

Ben Lewis
CFO, Altius Minerals Corporation

Yeah.

Brian MacArthur
Managing Director, Raymond James

Okay. Great. Thank you. I just wanted to clarify. It's always hard to tell exactly what's in that 45.4. Thank you for answering all my questions.

Ben Lewis
CFO, Altius Minerals Corporation

Okay.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, if you do have any questions, please press star followed by one. There seem to be no further questions at this time. I'll now pass it back to the speakers for any closing.

Stephanie Hussey
VP of Finance, Altius Minerals Corporation

Thank you. I don't have anything else, but thank you very much for joining our call today, and we look forward to speaking to you guys again at Q2.

Brian Dalton
CEO, Altius Minerals Corporation

Thanks, everyone.

Ben Lewis
CFO, Altius Minerals Corporation

Thank you.

Stephanie Hussey
VP of Finance, Altius Minerals Corporation

Thanks. Take care.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating and ask that you please disconnect your lines. Have a great day.

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