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Earnings Call: Q2 2021

Jul 23, 2021

Operator

Welcome to the Aecon Group Q2 2021 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one on your telephone. Please note that today's conference is being recorded. If you require further assistance, please press star zero. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Mr. Adam Borgatti. Please go ahead.

Adam Borgatti
SVP, Corporate Development and Investor Relations, Aecon Group

Thank you, Reine. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for participating in our Q2 2021 results conference call. This is Adam Borgatti speaking, and presenting to you this morning are Jean-Louis Servranckx, President and CEO, and David Smales, Executive Vice President and CFO. Our earnings announcement was released yesterday evening, and we posted a slide presentation on the investing section of our website, which we will refer to during this call. Following their comments, we'll be glad to take questions from analysts, and we ask that analysts keep to one question and a follow-up before getting back into the queue.

As noted on slide two of the presentation, listeners are reminded that the information we're sharing with you today includes forward-looking statements. These statements are based on assumptions that are subject to significant risks and uncertainties. Although Aecon believes that the expectations reflected in these statements are reasonable, we can give no assurance that these expectations will prove to be correct. With that, I'll turn the call over to Dave.

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Thanks, Adam. Good morning, everyone. I'll start by summarizing Aecon's consolidated results, review results by segment, and then address Aecon's financial position before turning the call over to Jean-Louis. Turning to slide three, revenue for the Q2 of CAD 971 million is CAD 192 million, or 25% higher compared to Q2 last year. Adjusted EBITDA for the Q1 of CAD 61 million, a margin of 6.3%, improved by CAD 37 million compared to adjusted EBITDA of CAD 24 million, a margin of 3.1% in Q2 last year. Diluted earnings per share of CAD 0.27 in the quarter, improved by CAD 0.37 compared to a diluted loss per share of CAD 0.10 in the same period last year. Reported backlog of CAD 6.5 billion compares to backlog of CAD 7.3 billion a year earlier, and CAD 5.9 billion at the end of the Q1 . Turning to results by segment.

As noted on slide four, construction revenue of CAD 955 million in the Q2 was CAD 177 million, or 23% higher than the same period last year due to nuclear refurbishment work in Ontario, major projects in civil operations and urban transportation systems, and gas distribution and telecommunications work in the utilities sector. Adjusted EBITDA from construction of CAD 51 million, a margin of 5.3%, increased by CAD 23 million compared to CAD 28 million, a margin of 3.6%, in Q2 last year, driven by higher volume and gross profit margin in nuclear, civil and urban transportation systems, and utilities. These increases were partially offset by lower volume and gross profit margin from industrial operations. New contract awards of CAD 1.6 billion in the Q2 compared to CAD 1.1 billion in the same period last year.

This was driven by strong demand across Canada in smaller and medium-sized projects, as well as a number of multi-year project awards in the quarter, including the replacement of steam generators at units three and four at the Bruce Nuclear facility in Ontario, construction of the Eglinton Crosstown West Extension tunnel in Toronto, and the North End Wastewater Plant upgrade project in Winnipeg. Turning to slide five. Concessions revenue for the Q2 of CAD 17 million was CAD 8 million higher compared to the same period last year, primarily due to increased activity at Bermuda Airport, where all commercial flight operations were suspended during the Q2 last year due to COVID. Although the year-over-year revenue increase and gradually improving traffic levels are positive, commercial flight operations in Bermuda are still operating at a significantly reduced volume compared to pre-pandemic levels.

Adjusted EBITDA in the concession segment of CAD 16 million was CAD 11 million higher than last year, driven by improving air traffic in Bermuda. Turning to slide six, Aecon's financial position, liquidity, and free cash flow remained strong. At the end of Q2, Aecon had a committed revolving credit facility of CAD 600 million, of which CAD 10 million was drawn and CAD 10 million utilized for letters of credit. On June 30, Aecon completed a two-year extension of the credit facility, which now matures on June 30, 2025.

As part of the extension, Aecon incorporated sustainability-linked metrics tied to a number of the company's ESG objectives, the first Canadian construction company to incorporate such a feature. Also on June 30, the CAD 900 million performance security guarantee facility provided by EDC to support letters of credit was extended by two years to June 30, 2023. Aecon's committed facilities for working capital and letter of credit requirements total CAD 1.5 billion. Aecon has no debt or credit facility maturities until the H2 of 2023, except equipment and property loans and leases in the normal course. At this point, I'll turn the call over to Jean-Louis.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Thank you, Dave. Turning to slide seven. Despite the ongoing impact of COVID-19 on Aecon's operations, we continued to deliver solid results in the quarter. We remain confident that Aecon's balanced and diversified portfolio, strong financial position, and agile culture will enable us to continue to execute going forward. The construction segment is aligned to the significant infrastructure investment commitments by all levels of government across Canada, as well as by the private sector across the market sectors in which we participate. The concession segment is pursuing a number of large-scale infrastructure projects and targeting innovative development and private finance opportunities in industrial, power, clean tech, and other related markets, as well as participating as a concessionaire on the five P3 projects identified on the slide. Turning to slide eight. Backlog, recurring revenue programs, and the pipeline of bidding opportunities for new work remain at strong levels across Canada.

During the quarter, new awards of almost CAD 1.6 billion demonstrated Aecon's diversity across geography, size, and duration of projects and market sectors. Aecon is also pre-qualified on a number of large project bids due to be awarded over the next 12-18 months, and demand for our core capabilities continues to be extremely robust. We expect demand for our services to remain healthy for the foreseeable future, as the federal government and provincial governments across Canada have identified investment in infrastructure as a key source of stimulus as part of economic recovery plans. Trailing 12 months recurring revenue was up 23% versus the prior period, primarily from growth in utilities operations.

Recurring revenue is expected to continue to grow based on the capital investment plans of a number of key clients, particularly in the telecommunications and power sectors, as well as from the recovery of aviation traffic at the Bermuda International Airport. Turning to slide nine. In addition to the sustainability-linked credit facility extension that David mentioned, we are continuing our drive to be an industry leader in sustainability as we undertake initiatives to harness innovation, reduce emissions, boost efficiency, and improve business performance. An ongoing focus of our sustainability program is to pilot new technologies to reduce emissions on our construction sites and in our facilities. We are currently undergoing trials to utilize solar energy to replace fossil fuel generators to provide power on certain project sites across Canada, as well as to power our training and innovation center in Ontario.

We are also contributing to a partnership between the government of Canada and the Cement Association of Canada to advance global leadership in low-carbon concrete production, with a goal to provide a roadmap to help the cement sector reach net zero carbon concrete by 2050. Turning to slide 10. Aecon's overall outlook for 2021 remains positive, supported by strong backlog, recurring revenue programs, and pipeline of bidding opportunities for new work. Although the pandemic is expected to continue to have some impact in moderating overall revenue and profitability growth expectations in 2021, we are encouraged by the generally positive trend in the lifting of social and economic restrictions in recent months in Canada, and the impact on revenue is expected to lessen going forward if this trend continues.

In the concession segment, an increase in vaccination rates and the easing of travel restrictions during the Q2 provided early signs of a rebound from very low level in passenger traffic for the aviation industry. This is expected to lead to a corresponding gradual improvement in travels through the Bermuda Airport during the remainder of the year and into 2022. As I stated earlier, the overall outlook for 2021 remains positive as construction continues on a number of projects that ramped up in 2019 and 2020. We are encouraged by the level of backlog and new awards during 2021 and the strong demand environment for Aecon services going forward, including recurring revenue programs, all subject to the unknown impacts of COVID-19 going forward. Thank you. We will now turn the call over to Analise for questions.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Again, that's star one to ask a question. Please stand by while we compile the queuing roster. Your first question comes from Yuri Lynk from Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open.

Yuri Lynk
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Hey, good morning, guys.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Morning.

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Morning, Yuri.

Yuri Lynk
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Another nice quarter. Jean, we wanted to dig in a little bit on the new awards. They bounced back nicely. Just wondering what you expect for the back half of the year in terms of new awards. Wondering if the projects that you're shortlisted on would allow you to end the year with maybe a higher backlog than where you stand today. Secondly, and in relation to that, if you could just comment on some of the new projects that are entering your bid pipeline and the nature of that work and how it lines up with your core competencies.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Thank you for this question. You probably remember the kind of anxiety three months ago at the end of Q1 when our backlog was something like CAD 5.9 billion. I had a few question about, are you worried? Are you anxious? I said, no, I'm not, because the quality and the balance profile of our backlog is what is important, not an absolute value on a Friday evening. Effectively, I'm very happy today with a CAD 6.5 billion backlog plus recurring revenues that are up 23% at more than CAD 500. All the parameters within the backlog are very interesting. New awards, as you say, CAD 1.6 billion. We have something like CAD 250 million for the two steam generator, CAD 250 million for Eglinton West Tunnel, CAD 200 million for Winnipeg water treatment plant, CAD 50 million for ExxonMobil pipeline.

As you can see, it's also very diverse in terms of sectors, but also in terms of geographies. This being said, we consider Aecon that we build with discipline a backlog. It means that I'm not discovering with my team on Monday morning what is a backlog. We drive the backlog to shape as we want, as per our strategic plan, the future of Aecon activity. This is what is important. Yes, there are projects in the pipeline on which we have either already submitted a proposal or we have been pre-qualified and we are working to deliver a proposal during Q3 or Q4. I will not go further in details, but this is about civil, this is about industrial, this is about nuclear, too. I'm not worried about the development of our backlog for the months to come.

Yuri Lynk
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Okay, got it. Second and last question, maybe for Dave. Just talk about the levers when you think about the construction bid margin as we look ahead and assume revenue can continue to grow over the next few years. Is the opportunity more on gross margin or operating leverage? What kind of revenue can your current overhead support?

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

I think it's a little bit of both, Yuri, in terms of margin development. Obviously, our drive in such a strong end market environment is to ensure that we maximize our bid margin, reflecting the fact that there's fewer and fewer bidders for some of these projects. It's also about project selection and making sure that, as Jean-Louis already said, we're very strategic about projects that we're adding to the backlog and that they meet our margin expectations and profiles. Certainly, that would all feed into the gross margin piece. As we see top-line growth, we don't expect the overhead structure to grow at the same pace. We do expect some leverage impact, too. I think there's two positive dynamics going forward, both based on the strength of the end markets that we're in right now.

Yuri Lynk
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Okay. That's two for me. I'll turn it over. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Your next question comes from Benoit Poirier from Desjardins Securities. Your line is open.

Benoit Poirier
Analyst, Desjardins Securities

Yes. Good morning, everyone. I just wanted to come back-

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Morning, Benoit.

Benoit Poirier
Analyst, Desjardins Securities

Good morning. I just wanted to come back on the two project pursuits in the U.S. You disclose a project in the Washington State and Louisiana. Could you talk about your strategy to organically enter the U.S. market, the targeted states, and also the sectors that you're looking at?

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Yes, Benoit. United States is becoming more stable. This is evident, and there's a great chance that a bill of around CAD 1,000 billion for infrastructure within the next 15 years may be achieved. Not everything is about our infrastructure, but I would say quite a good share will be. We have to take care about this market, because it's going to be most probably a very quickly growing market. This being said, it's a foreign country. Have always the same principle. Organically, we will only go where it is our core competencies, and we will try to choose the best partners to help us to make it good. It means that we have knowledge of P3 because Canada has been quite advanced in the P3 industry. We have our own technical knowledge. The language is the same between United States and Canada, obviously.

We need local partners, and we also need peers of our size just to help us in front of the structures of the deal. Geographically, we are not that selective. Evidently, you have noticed that one of the first, which is in Washington State, we are extremely strong with our major project component in Western Canada, so it's quite easy to shift teams to the Northwest states of United States. We will go on a case-by-case basis, trying to create a team for different projects that's not going to change too much to take advantage of a learning curve in working in this country.

Benoit Poirier
Analyst, Desjardins Securities

Okay. That's great. Just with respect to your M&A strategy, Jean, where you previously mentioned your interest to do something maybe a little bit more larger than usual in Eastern Canada. Could you talk about the pipeline of opportunities and why the intention to bolster your position in these regions?

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Yes. There are two kinds of opportunity for external growth. I mean, the tuck-in activity that we do on a regular basis, just to complement the geography or some specialty, and we are quite huge. There may be some more structuring acquisition, and we are having a look at it. Yes, we are looking at the East of Canada, but not only the East of Canada. When we have the capacity through our balance sheet to make very interesting operation, and we are always alert and focused to be sure we can find the right company, and we will be ready to go.

Benoit Poirier
Analyst, Desjardins Securities

Okay. Thank you very much, gentlemen.

Operator

Your next question comes from Jacob Bout from CIBC. Your line's open.

Jacob Bout
Analyst, CIBC

Good morning.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Morning, Jacob.

Jacob Bout
Analyst, CIBC

Wanted to go back to the margins, and specifically, are you seeing any evidence of cost inflation? Maybe comment on the availability of labor.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Construction is about cycles, Jacob. It means that there's nothing new what we are seeing at the moment. Yes, there is some inflation in the price of commodities. It has gone down in certain aspects, but this is a trend at the moment. We are used to live with cycle, either by protecting us when we sign contracts with clients or through our, I would say, operational agility. For example, when a price is going up, you just try not to procure in bulk too much. You just procure in the best way you can. For example, when you see the price is going down, you try to renegotiate. As an example, we are renegotiating quite a number of subcontracts that we had to sign during the COVID time.

Because of the risk, because of the unknown, the level of price was higher than it is now with the vaccine, with the rapid test. We are renegotiating some of our subcontracts. I would say so far, we know how to deal with this, and I'm not that much worried. In terms of labor, as I used to say, the fact that oil and gas is decreasing has just shifted quite a number of people into infrastructure construction.

We also took advantage of the closing down of quite a few of the building jobs during the first months of COVID to attract new kind of workers that just feel happy with us. The management, I would say, is tense, and the market of the management is tense. So far we can handle it. Top executives, top project directors have always been, I would say, a fighting sport, and we are on it. We can manage it, and it's not a point of great concern at the moment.

Jacob Bout
Analyst, CIBC

Okay. My second question is just on Bermuda, the utilization that you saw in the Q2 , what are you seeing so far in the Q3 , and how is that expected to ramp in your mind?

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Yeah. We did see improvement through the Q2 . From when we came into the quarter, we were kind of in the low to mid-teens in terms of percentage of traffic versus the base year, which we view as 2019. You can't really compare to 2020 because the airport was shut for much of that period. When we compare to 2019, we saw a ramp-up from low to mid-teens at the start of the quarter through to 25%-30% by the end of the quarter. Based on, it's still obviously early in Q3, but based on what we see right now, we expect that kind of ramp to continue through Q3 and through to the end of the year, so that by the end of the year, all else being equal, and no sudden reversion back to restrictions and lockdowns and further travel restrictions.

We see getting to something in the range of 50% of 2019 traffic by the end of the year, like for the last month or two of the year. Obviously, if all goes well, 2022 should see that continue to improve. That's kind of how we see things right now. Yeah, it's definitely on an improving track right there.

Jacob Bout
Analyst, CIBC

In 2019, what was that split between U.S., U.K. and Canada, or rest of the world as far as origination of traffic?

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Yeah. U.S. typically represents two-thirds to 75% of all traffic in and out of Bermuda.

Jacob Bout
Analyst, CIBC

That's helpful. Thank you.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Maybe I can add, to give some colors. Last Friday in our Bermuda airport, all the gateways were full. We had a plane on each gateway on Friday afternoon, we had not sufficient food and drink to cater, so much crowded was the airport. From time to time, after five quarters of COVID, we can just begin to smile again.

Operator

Your next question comes from Maxim Sytchev from National Bank Financial. Your line's open.

Maxim Sytchev
Analyst, National Bank Financial

Hi. Good morning, gentlemen.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Good morning.

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Good morning.

Maxim Sytchev
Analyst, National Bank Financial

I was wondering if you don't mind providing a bit more color on the reason for the jump in recurring revenue. I think you mentioned it's up to 23% year-over-year. Yeah, that's the first question.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Obviously, telecommunication is a big driver. This is one of the consequences of COVID. People need more connectivity, even in quite remote places. They need more volume of data. There is a very strong movement of new CapEx from our usual clients. Gas distribution, for example, with Enbridge is also very active. Electrical transmission, it's becoming obvious that we will use more and more electricity in the years to come. This electricity, in addition to be produced, has to be transmitted and distributed.

There's also quite an interesting movement of new CapEx on this. This is what creates this 23% increase, and this is why we think it's not going to stop here. What is also very interesting is I'm astonished with the real robustness of our utility sector. It's a sector that has learned to do a lot with little, extremely agile to take new jobs, to find new way of agreement with its clients. I'm extremely happy with the way the utility sector at Aecon is evolving.

Maxim Sytchev
Analyst, National Bank Financial

Yeah, agreed. Shall we just maybe as a follow-up on this, how does the M&A strategy fit into this utilities recurring revenue component, if it's possible? Thank you.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Evidently, we are extremely keen on being able to attract and to make acquisition in this sector. As I've already said, I'm working a lot on the balance activity of Aecon, on our balance portfolio, and we have been working hard during the last three years. We're extremely happy after this pandemic to see how robust this utility sector is. Yes, we are always chasing for new company that can bring this recurrent revenue.

Maxim Sytchev
Analyst, National Bank Financial

Right. Okay. That's super helpful. Maybe just one small cleanup. In terms of the ESG objectives that are part of your credit facility, do you mind talking about what are the triggers for these things on the ESG side?

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

What are the?

Maxim Sytchev
Analyst, National Bank Financial

What are the drivers for, or I guess the benchmarks that you have to meet in order to respect the agreement?

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Yeah. There's four metrics, Max, built into that structure. The first is on greenhouse gas emissions. The second is around safety metrics. The third is spend with indigenous suppliers and subcontractors. Fourth is in terms of our use of preferred suppliers, and their conformance with ESG and diversity and inclusion practices. Those are the four areas we focus on. There's obviously targets built in for each of those that differ by category. Ultimately, the impact in terms of the upside potential on pricing is up to five basis points either way.

Maxim Sytchev
Analyst, National Bank Financial

Okay. Wonderful. That's it for me. Thank you so much.

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Thanks, Max.

Operator

Your next question comes from Chris Murray from ATB Capital Markets. Your line's open.

Chris Murray
Analyst, ATB Capital Markets

Yeah. Thanks, folks. Good morning. Just maybe going back to the concessions business, and looking at the EBITDA margin in the quarter. Certainly, 95% is a pretty high margin. Just wanting to maybe understand, is that kind of a normalized number? I appreciate there's a lot of changes going on. Is that how we should be thinking about the margin profile of the O&M business in Bermuda? Was there something else that kind of skews that number this quarter?

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Yeah, no. It certainly skews given the current level of traffic in Bermuda. Don't forget we have other concessions where there's also small levels of income coming in terms of management fees and things like that. Where revenue is particularly low in Bermuda, those have the impact of increasing that margin. Really, if you look at 2019, that would give you a much better benchmark in terms of margins for that sector. Obviously, we've transitioned to the new terminal, but it's not that much different in terms of current expectations of traffic once we get back to normal. The margin profile would be more in line with what we saw in 2019.

Chris Murray
Analyst, ATB Capital Markets

Okay. You mentioned earlier in the call that your expectations would be to maybe about 50% of prior levels. I'll make the comment that this morning, Air Canada came out and talked about the fact that they're starting to see bookings in kind of the winter season, so January, at above 2019 levels now in certain weeks into the Caribbean. Just wondering how quickly you can ramp up capacity. Jean-Louis kind of alluded to the fact you guys ran out of food and beverage. Is it a thing of people, or is there more development left to do, additional gates to finish? Are there any restrictions on you guys getting back to full capacity if all of a sudden it materializes maybe quicker than you're expecting?

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Yeah. No restrictions at all. Jean-Louis was kind of tongue in cheek talking about what happened last week, which was really just a function of being set for a certain level and things ramping up quickly that particular day. No, everything is finished at the airport. The capacity is in place to be at or above, in fact, more than 2019 levels of capacity at the new airport is higher than it was at the old terminal. It's really just a question of, as flights are added and as passenger flow increases, we can ramp up pretty comfortably alongside that. No, there's no restrictions that would take any time to implement.

Chris Murray
Analyst, ATB Capital Markets

Okay, great. That's helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Sabahat Khan from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Sabahat Khan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Thanks, good morning. Just from the commentary earlier on the U.S. side, how far along is that process in terms of you assessing that market? Are you looking at specific projects already, is it still in sort of due diligence phase to see if the market makes sense?

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

No, we are looking at specific projects. We have just been pre-qualified for a bridge with Plenary and Acciona in Louisiana. We have a few projects in our pursuit list. We are just ramping up in front of U.S.

Sabahat Khan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay. I guess as you look at those projects, are you able to maybe share, are you looking at, "Hey, look, we need to make the exact same return on the Canadian side, whatever benchmarks you use internally?" Or is it, "Look, the size of the opportunity is much bigger, so the absolute dollars maybe matter a little bit more." How are you assessing the opportunities on the U.S. side versus the Canadian?

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

So far, we don't know exactly what is going to happen. We don't know exactly what kind of project will come first. The decision at Aecon is to focus on our core competency and focus on the right partners. If in addition to our partners we have been already working with in Canada, it's a case for Acciona, for example, because we are building the Pattullo Bridge in Vancouver together, better for us. We shall see how all this develop and all these ramp ups, and we'll probably be able to refine our approach.

Sabahat Khan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Great. Thank you.

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Just to add to that, Sabahat, there's no philosophy where we're saying we're going to go into U.S. market at a lower margin expectation. Obviously, we'll partner with other big international companies as we qualify and bid these projects, and they have their own margin expectations as well, and we'll make sure we're aligned. We wouldn't go into the U.S. market if we didn't think the margin potential in that market was strong. We think now is the right time, A, because there's going to be a lot of demand in that market. B, because we think it supports our margin expectations. There's no concept to the U.S. buying our way into that market. That's not our philosophy in any way, shape, or form.

Sabahat Khan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

If I could just follow quickly, I guess, was that part of sort of deciding on those specific regions in the U.S., sort of the Northwest, or was it the type of opportunities available? What kind of guided your decision to that region?

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Yeah. The region I was talking about, it's just because it's close from our base in British Columbia. We also know that some states are easier to work with. I would say it's a project-to-project decision, and we just try to follow our guidelines about scope of work and about partnering. In addition, as you say, it's also about which state and under which circumstances.

Sabahat Khan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Troy Sun from Laurentian Bank . Your line's open.

Troy Sun
Analyst, Laurentian Bank Securities

Good morning, gentlemen.

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Morning.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Morning.

Troy Sun
Analyst, Laurentian Bank Securities

Maybe I'll just start with Jean-Louis, if I may. Just have a question on the business development side, especially for concessions. I think at some point you had a team sourcing [audio distortion] in the international market. Obviously, I presume that's been made pretty challenging by COVID. I'm just wondering if there's any update on that front now that travel's becoming easier.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Yes, you're right. We have a team at Aecon focusing on future international activity. It may be under a G2G scheme like Bermuda. It may be under a private initiative or a tender on a PC basis or a design and build job. Evidently, and you're right, COVID has disturbed a lot this activity. Most of the territory have been totally locked down, no capacity to enter, or when you enter, high level of quarantine. This has gone rather down. We are back. We are back on the road, and I can tell you, for example, today, we have two person from this team who are abroad that have been traveling and safe. We'll come back on track to this.

Troy Sun
Analyst, Laurentian Bank Securities

Great. That's helpful. I just have another question for Dave. Just on the free cash flow. I think you guys have had a few years of very strong, robust conversion from adjusted EBITDA to free cash flow. Should we be expecting a similar run rate for 2021, or is there anything unusual potentially in working capital that we should be aware of?

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Not specifically. Obviously, we always call out the usual seasonality. Over the course of the year, we expect the profile to be relatively similar to a normal baseline year. Obviously, 2020 had a number of other things going on in terms of timing of projects being suspended or ramping up again that kind of disturbed some of the normal seasonality. When you look at a base year like 2019, for example, we don't expect anything particularly unusual.

Troy Sun
Analyst, Laurentian Bank Securities

Okay, great. That's it from me. Thank you very much.

Operator

Your next question comes from Michael Tupholme from TD Securities. Your line is open.

Michael Tupholme
Analyst, TD Securities

Thanks. Good morning.

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Morning.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Morning.

Michael Tupholme
Analyst, TD Securities

Just one question for me. I guess I'm looking at the outlook commentary that you provided in the Q2 's MD&A. If I compare what you've said to some of the commentary in the Q1 , there's a lot of similarity, but one thing that does seem to differ is there was reference in the Q1 to seeing some delays on projects and commenting on how that may impact the business. That type of commentary is absent from this quarter's MD&A. I guess I'm just wondering if you can speak to, is that simply an evolution of the economy reopening and things sort of getting back to normal? Or if you can just speak to what you've seen in terms of those delayed projects, that'd be helpful.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

My answer would be the following. None of our projects that were in backlog have been canceled due to COVID. Some of them have been pushed down the line. What you notice is just that business is just coming back to normal and we have more visibility. The pipeline is extremely strong and we cannot hear from our clients a wish to decrease the amount of projects that they would like to put on the market. It is the contrary. It may explain what you have noticed in the wording.

Michael Tupholme
Analyst, TD Securities

Okay. That's helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Naji Baydoun from iA Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Naji Baydoun
Analyst, iA Capital Markets

Hi, good morning.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Good morning.

Naji Baydoun
Analyst, iA Capital Markets

Just wanted to go back to a previous question on additional opportunities in your project pursuits that are outside of Canada. Are you expecting the focus going forward in the pipeline to be more towards U.S. and international opportunities? If that's the case, how do you think about both the risk and the return trade-off of pursuing projects either in non-core markets versus maybe in Canada?

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

The answer to your first question is no. We are going to stay focused on Canada. Evidently, as I used to say, Canada is 500,000 of newcomers every year. Those newcomers need freshwater, treated water, transportation systems, bridges, power, and the market for infrastructure is going to stay strong. We at Aecon, we are stronger and stronger in Canada in terms of geography, in terms of capacity. Canada will remain the point number one, in terms of activity and pursuits. This being said, we cannot refuse to look at the U.S. market. There may be quite interesting opportunity. We are not starving. It means that this is what I call the discipline.

I will manage to only try to go on specific project in the U.S. where I'm convinced that we can have a very good trajectory because thanks to our references, thanks to our capacity, thanks to our history, to our partnering. Internationally is more the same kind of answer. We will pick the projects where we think we can add value to our client, not at any price, not under any contractual condition, and always with the right partner.

Naji Baydoun
Analyst, iA Capital Markets

Okay. Got it.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Selectivity. Yeah. Selectivity is the right word for international activity outside Canada.

Naji Baydoun
Analyst, iA Capital Markets

Okay. Just you have a bit of extra capacity, and you're looking selectively at opportunities. Okay. That's helpful.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Yes.

Naji Baydoun
Analyst, iA Capital Markets

Yep. Go ahead.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

I can come back from your question to the last question of Yuri at the beginning of this session about our overhead and our support services capacity. What has been extremely interesting in this COVID crisis is that we just discovered that we can work better. We can do more with the same, or we can do the same thing with less. It's not only about being flexible, but we have suppressed a lot of transit time. It means that with the same capacity, with the same size of our support centers, we can tackle new opportunities, and this is what is quite interesting. We have to get out from this COVID better than we entered, and we try to capitalize on everything we think have emerged as good ideas to organize ourselves.

Naji Baydoun
Analyst, iA Capital Markets

Okay. That's helpful. I don't know how much you can say about these two specific projects, but I'm just wondering if you had any comments on follow-up work at Bruce Power or for the sewage treatment plant in Winnipeg. Any color on either the timing or the scale of the additional contracts that you could win for this project?

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Yes. At Bruce Power, there are six reactors to be refurbished. We are on the number one reactor. We have a preferred supplier agreement for the next reactor. The conditions are changing. We have already secured for the steam generator, which is quite an interesting job, unit number three and four, which are the second and the third one. We are negotiating at the moment with Bruce Power for the second reactor, under which condition we could do it, taking into account the learning curve that we have in nuclear. I remind you, we had a first unit in Darlington in 2018 and 2019. We just started up in 2020, two units, which are the second and the third one. Operationally, we are doing extremely well. We are in advance of the schedule, in front of the schedule, more than 30 days in OPG, around 20 days in Bruce.

I'm extremely happy with the ramping up of our operational capacity. We will seek getting all the units coming down the line on Bruce. OPG, it's done. We have a contract for the four units to be refurbished. Winnipeg, what we have won is just the 1st part of a much bigger scheme. We just think that the fact to be here for the 1st contract, on which I can say that mobilization is going quite well, will help us to be very well positioned for the rest of the job.

Naji Baydoun
Analyst, iA Capital Markets

Okay, great. Just one last question from me on Lake Erie Connector, if there's been any discussions around that project or maybe your expectations surrounding the potential timelines and work related to that situation?

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

No discussion at Aecon for the moment with a rental client, so nothing special to say on this one.

Naji Baydoun
Analyst, iA Capital Markets

Okay, thank you. That's all for me.

Operator

Your next question comes from Ian Gillies from Stifel. Your line's open.

Ian Gillies
Analyst, Stifel

Morning, everyone.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Good morning.

Ian Gillies
Analyst, Stifel

Would you be willing to put another project similar in size to Bermuda Airport on the balance sheet at this point in time, given the improved outlook? Or would you need to digest that project first before doing another project in similar size?

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Usually it's either David or myself to give an answer. Okay, I will give this to David, but I think we have exactly the same answer on this. Go on, David.

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Well, yeah, absolutely. We'd be open to that. There's already been a question about international BD, and this is one of the areas we're focused on. We think the solution we bring to some of these smaller island airports is fairly unique, and we think we've got a good model that we can replicate elsewhere, and that's part of what our BD team is focused on. Obviously, as we've already said, COVID put some of those conversations on ice for a while. There are a few of those that are definitely ramping up again, and there's definitely interest in that model. We would absolutely look to do that again. In terms of Bermuda itself, at this point, there are no plans to monetize our investment there. We're more focused on getting the airport back to full operations and being a long-term partner with Bermuda.

Ian Gillies
Analyst, Stifel

That's very helpful. If Jean-Louis doesn't have anything else to add, the other question I wanted to ask was around higher expectations in the M&A world. With all the stimulus spending expected to happen, I'm just curious whether that's posing a material headwind at this point or whether you think that's an issue that can be worked through over the course of time.

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

It's a funny market right now because you've obviously got people who are coming through a period that's been impacted by COVID. Then, as you say, there's also expectations around a stronger market going forward. I think a lot of the things we're looking at are opportunities similar to ones we've already acted on, where companies are getting to the point where they need a partner like Aecon to help them accelerate their growth. That's certainly what we're looking for when we look at these opportunities, where we can bring some synergy to, and some size and scale and our client relationships and everything else to help those companies grow quickly.

They're looking at end markets growing, but they're also looking at their own ability to continue to keep pace with that from a balance sheet perspective. They view Aecon as a good long-term home for their business. We think it plays into our strengths as a buyer of strategic assets, and there's some short-term, I think, dislocation in terms of expectations, but nothing that I think would be lasting and we can't overcome.

Ian Gillies
Analyst, Stifel

That's helpful. Thank you very much. I'll turn it back over and hopefully my audio worked for the first time in a while.

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Thanks, Ian.

Operator

Your next question comes from Benoit Poirier from Desjardins Capital. Your line's open.

Benoit Poirier
Analyst, Desjardins Securities

Yes. Welcome back. Just related to the port modernization project in Saint-Vincent, could it be turned like a concession project over time?

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

No, I don't think so, Benoit. This project has been taken by the Caribbean Development Bank, and they have a plan about it. I don't think there could be an evolution. We are still in the frame of design and build, a pure construction job in Saint Vincent at the moment.

Benoit Poirier
Analyst, Desjardins Securities

Okay. Last one for me, just with respect to the opportunities in the U.S., you talk about the proximity versus B.C. Could you talk a little bit about the strategy to source the employees, assuming you're successful with those U.S. opportunities, Jean-Louis?

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

This is exactly why we don't want to go alone to build a project in the United States, and we want to go with stronger American peers and local peers because the rules are different, the trade unions are different. The regulations are different. In terms of management, there is not that much of an issue. I would say a great proportion of our managers in Western Canada are American, so they can perfectly cross the border. In terms of trade, this is why we need partnering, and this is what we have in mind.

Benoit Poirier
Analyst, Desjardins Securities

Okay. Thank you very much for the time.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Yeah.

Operator

Your next question comes from Frederic Bastien from Raymond James. Your line's open.

Frederic Bastien
Analyst, Raymond James

Good morning, guys.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Good morning.

Frederic Bastien
Analyst, Raymond James

You bought a small specialty nuclear business a couple of years back. Just wondering if you could comment firstly on how their expertise is helping your refurbishment activities in Canada and secondly, whether you can leverage their relationships to pursue nuclear work down in the U.S.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Yes. We are extremely happy with the expertise of Wachs in nuclear, and especially nuclear welding. We have been using them from the moment we acquired them, on Darlington, the first unit. We had excellent results. Those results have been shared with our teams at Bruce. We have decided in cooperation with our client, OPG and Bruce, to create in Cambridge, where the Aecon Nuclear is lodged, a welding center of excellence. I can say that most of the teachers are coming from Wachs. We are extremely happy. We think it will help us to be even more productive and economically even better on the major component refurbishment for Bruce and OPG. This being said, United States is a huge market for nuclear.

Everybody now has realized that in front of the issues related with climate change and the greenhouse gas emission, you cannot get rid of nuclear. You need to use nuclear to cope with the increase in the demand of electricity. They have a huge program. This program has been put on quite a severe halt in March 2020 due to COVID, but it's just coming back now. We are bidding through Wachs on their normal kind of job, which is a few dozen million. We will now try to internally joint venture our teams from the much bigger contract in Canada with Wachs to try to go in United States towards projects above CAD 100 million. We are on our way to deploy this strategy.

Frederic Bastien
Analyst, Raymond James

Great. That's good to hear, Jean-Louis. Okay. Thanks a lot, and great results.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Good. Thanks, Frederic.

Operator

There's no further questions this time. You may continue.

Adam Borgatti
SVP, Corporate Development and Investor Relations, Aecon Group

Very good. Thank you very much, Reine, and thank you all for your attendance. As always, feel free to reach out for questions after the call, and have a great rest of the day. We'll speak to you next quarter.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.