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Earnings Call: Q1 2023

Apr 26, 2023

Operator

Good morning. Thank you for attending today's Q1 2023 Aecon Group Inc. earnings call. My name is Bailey, and I will be your moderator for today's call. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. It is now my pleasure to pass the conference over to our host, Adam Borgatti, Senior Vice President of Corporate Development and Investor Relations. Mr. Borgatti, please proceed.

Adam Borgatti
SVP, Corporate Development and Investor Relations, Aecon Group

Thank you, Bailey. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for participating in our Q1 results conference call. This is Adam Borgatti speaking. Presenting to you this morning are Jean-Louis Servranckx, President and CEO, and David Smales, Executive Vice President and CFO. Our earnings announcement was released yesterday evening. We posted a slide presentation on the investing section of our website, which we will refer to during this call. Following our comments, we will be glad to take questions from analysts. We ask that the analysts keep to one question before getting back into queue to ensure others have a chance to contribute. As noted on slide two of the presentation, listeners are reminded that the information we are sharing with you today includes forward-looking statements. These statements are based on assumptions that are subject to significant risks and uncertainties.

Although Aecon believes the expectations reflected in these statements are reasonable, we can give no assurance that these expectations will prove to be correct. With that, I'll now turn the call over to David.

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Thanks, Adam. Good morning, everyone. I'll touch briefly on Aecon's consolidated results, review results by segment, and then address Aecon's financial position before turning the call over to Jean-Louis. Turning to slide 3, revenue for Q1 at CAD 1.1 billion was CAD 121 million or 12% higher compared to the same period last year. Adjusted EBITDA of CAD 25 million, a margin of 2.2% compared to CAD 21 million, a margin of 2.1% last year. An operating profit of CAD 6 million compared to an operating loss of CAD 10 million. Diluted loss per share in the quarter of CAD 0.15 compared to diluted loss per share of CAD 0.29 in the same period last year.

Reported backlog of CAD 6 billion at the end of the quarter compared to backlog of CAD 6.4 billion at the end of the Q1 of 2022. New contract awards of CAD 812 million were booked in the quarter compared to CAD 1.2 billion in the prior period. Now looking at results by segment. Turning to slide 4. Construction revenue of CAD 1.1 billion in the Q1 was CAD 119 million or 12% higher than the same period last year. Revenue was higher in each sector, with the largest increase being in civil operations, primarily from an increase in major projects in both Eastern and Western Canada.

In industrial operations, higher revenue was due to increased activity on mainline pipeline work and higher field construction work at mining and wastewater facilities in Western Canada, partially offset by a lower volume of field construction work at chemical facilities in Eastern Canada. Higher revenue in nuclear operations was driven by an increased volume of refurbishment work in Ontario and the US. In utilities from an increased volume of telecommunications and electrical transmission work, partially offset by a lower volume of oil and gas distribution work. In urban transportation solutions, driven primarily by a higher volume of work related to rail electrification in Ontario. New contract awards of CAD 795 million in the Q1 were CAD 398 million lower than the prior period.

Backlog at the end of the quarter of CAD 5.9 billion compared to CAD 6.3 billion at the same time last year. Adjusted EBITDA in the construction segment at CAD 22 million, a margin of 2% compared to CAD 19 million, also a margin of 2% in Q1 last year. Adjusted EBITDA increased by CAD 3 million, primarily from higher volume and gross profit margin in industrial and urban transportation solutions and from higher volume in nuclear operations. Turning to slide 6. Concessions revenue for the Q1 was CAD 17 million compared to CAD 14 million in the same period last year, primarily due to an increase in airport operations at the Bermuda International Airport.

Bermuda continues to operate at a reduced volume compared to pre-pandemic levels but continued to recover in 2022 and the Q1 of 2023 from the more severe impacts experienced in 2020 and 2021. This recovery was evidenced in the Q1 of 2023 by the fact that traffic averaged 72% at the pre-pandemic level in the Q1 of 2019, compared to average traffic in the Q1 of 2022 being just 43% of the pre-pandemic level. Adjusted EBITDA in the concession segment at $15 million compared to $14 million in Q1 2022, primarily due to results from the Bermuda Airport. Turning to slide seven.

At the end of the Q1, Aecon had a committed revolving credit facility of $600 million, of which $240 million was drawn and $10 million utilized for letters of credit. On December 31, 2023, convertible debentures with a face value of $184 million will mature. The company expects to repay these debentures at maturity or before. At this point, I'll turn the call over to Jean-Louis.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Thank you, David. I would like to take a brief moment to address the four large fixed-price legacy projects laid out in our latest disclosure documents. As a reminder, these four projects entered into in 2018 or earlier by joint ventures in which Aecon is a participant, are being negatively impacted due to additional costs, for which the joint ventures assert that the owners are contractually responsible, including for, among other things, unforeseeable site conditions, third-party delays, COVID-19, supply chain disruptions, and inflation related to labor and materials. In the Q1, Aecon recognized an operating loss of $2.8 million related to these four projects, which comprised 25% of consolidated revenue in the quarter and represented $801 million or 13% of backlog at March 31, 2023.

Aecon and our partners continue to work toward resolution of compensation for these impacts with the respective project owners, and we are focused on pursuing all avenues for adequate and timely compensation with the objective to reach fair and reasonable settlement agreements and to move towards project completion in each case. As I said before, this will take some time, but we are on it and constantly. Turning to slide 9. Demand for Aecon services across Canada continues to be strong, particularly in smaller and medium-sized projects. While volatile global and Canadian economic conditions are impacting inflation, interest rates, and overall supply chain efficiency, these factors have stabilized to some extent and have largely been and will continue to be reflected in the pricing and commercial terms of our recent and prospective project awards and bids. Turning to slide 10.

With backlog of CAD 6.0 billion at March 31, 2023, and recurring revenue programs continuing to see robust demand driven by the utility sectors and ongoing recovery in airport traffic in Bermuda, Aecon believes it is positioned to achieve further revenue growth over the next few years. As a reminder, the major scope of the GO Expansion On-Corridor Works Project, the Scarborough Subway Extension Project, and the Darlington New Nuclear Project will only be reflected in backlog at the successful conclusion of the leading development phases. Aecon, including joint venture in which we are a participant, is also pre-qualified on a number of project bids due to be awarded during the next 12 months and have a considerable pipeline of opportunities to further add to backlog over time.

Trailing twelve months recurring revenue of CAD 895 million was up 24% versus the prior period and 69% versus two years ago, primarily from growth in utilities operations. Recurring revenue is expected to continue to grow, driven by demand in the utility sector, as the concession segment is expected to see airport traffic in Bermuda continue its recovery in 2023 and 2024. Turning to slide 11. Aecon continues to support the energy transition to build and operate sustainable infrastructure. In February 2023, Aecon announced that the Oneida Energy Storage LP executed an agreement for the Oneida Energy Storage project to deliver a 250 MW, 1,000 MWh energy storage facility in Ontario.

Aecon Concessions will be an equity partner in the Oneida LP upon financial close, Aecon was also awarded an EPC contract by Oneida LP to construct the facility. Projects such as Oneida Energy Storage, GO Expansion On-Corridor Works, Scarborough Subway Extension, and the Darlington New Nuclear Project demonstrate the path Aecon is on to embrace the opportunities that the increasing focus on energy transition, decarbonization, and sustainability present. This is very much the future direction for Aecon; we are excited by the progress made to date in establishing ourselves in this space. Turning to slide 12. Aecon released its fourth sustainability report, building a Sustainable Future, last week, outlining our progress and key accomplishments in responsible ESG practices. This report highlights Aecon initiatives to embed sustainable innovations and work towards net zero construction throughout its operations.

Aecon is pleased to report continued progress towards its target to achieve a 30% reduction in direct CO₂ emissions by 2030, with a 14% direct reduction already achieved to date by the end of 2022 on an intensity basis. Sustainability is part of our DNA at Aecon and a key consideration in every decision we make as we continue to focus on building what matters to enable future generations to thrive and transition to a net zero economy. Turning to slide 13, with strong demand, growing recurring revenue programs and diverse backlog in hand, Aecon is focused on achieving solid execution on its projects and selectively adding to backlog through a disciplined bidding approach that supports long-term margin improvement in the construction segment.

In the concession segment, in addition to expecting an ongoing recovery at the Bermuda Airport through 2023, there are a number of opportunities to add to the existing portfolio of Canadian and international concessions in the next 12 to 24 months, including projects with private sector clients that support a collective focus on sustainability and the transition to a net zero economy. The GO Expansion On-Corridor Works Project and the Oneida Energy Storage project are example of the role Aecon's concession segment is playing in developing, operating, and maintaining assets related to this transition. As previously announced on March first, Aecon announced that it has entered into a definitive purchase agreement with Green Infrastructure Partners, under which Aecon has agreed to sell its ATE road building aggregates and materials business in Ontario for CAD 235 million in cash.

In addition, on March 15th, Aecon announced that it has entered into an agreement with CC&L Infrastructure to sell a 49.9% interest in the Bermuda International Airport concessionaire for $128.5 million in cash. Closing of these sales transactions is expected in the Q2 of 2023. Upon closing, Aecon expects to use the net proceeds from the transactions to pay down debt on its revolving credit facility. Thank you. We will now turn the call over to analysts for questions.

Operator

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by 1 on your telephone keypad. If for any reason you would like to remove that question, please press star followed by 2. Again, to ask a question, please press star followed by 1. As a reminder, if you are using a speaker phone, please remember to pick up your handset before asking your question, and please do remember to unmute locally. Our first question today comes from the line of Michael Tupholme from TD Securities. Michael, please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Michael Tupholme
Director and Equity Research, TD Securities

Thank you very much for the GO Expansion On-Corridor Works Project and the Scarborough Subway Extension project, I know neither of those is included in backlog. Two questions. I guess, first off, can you talk about how we should think about the expected revenue contribution from those two projects this year? was there anything from those projects that contributed in Q1? If so, can you quantify that for us?

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Yes. I may give some elements of answers coming to this question. We are in the middle of the development phases for these two projects. It's been for GO Transit electrification and modernization and for Scarborough. Just to give you some color about it, I mean, on the GO Transit, there are, at the moment, more than 1,000 full-time employee working during this development phase. Scarborough, I would say around 300 people working. Each time, Aecon will present between 25% and 50% of those people. In terms of revenue, although, I mean, this is what we are studying during the development phase. What was forecasted by the contracting authorities was to have construction work around $8 billion during a period of 8 years, more or less.

You remember that, we have a 28% participation in the operation during 25 years, which will make something like between $300 million-$400 million per year of operations of the network. All this will be confirmed at the end of the development phase. That will probably take place for this big project at the end of 2024. For Scarborough, I would say it's too early. It was announced as a CapEx between $2 billion and $3.5 billion by the owner. We are just ramping up in the development phase, so we will know a little more later.

Michael Tupholme
Director and Equity Research, TD Securities

Okay, thanks for that. That's helpful. Second question. Sorry, just to follow up.

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Mike, can you hear us?

Michael Tupholme
Director and Equity Research, TD Securities

Second question here. Hello?

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Yeah, we can hear you now. Go ahead.

Michael Tupholme
Director and Equity Research, TD Securities

Okay. Thanks. Yeah, just a question about the recurring revenue, recurring revenues within the company. You've seen strong growth in recurring revenues on a TTM basis for some time now. Just wondering how we should think about the growth potential in recurring revenues over the next couple of years, I guess this year as we move through the year and then also into next year, if possible.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

We basically are optimistic. Those recurring revenue are driven first by our utility sector, which constantly growing. It's quite amazing to see. I mean, there's not one single month without brainstorming about new business lines, new activities, new initiatives, new innovation, I mean, in this utility sector. This sector is growing. For the rest, by our airport operation, as you have noticed, I mean, during the Q1 of 2023, we reached 72% of the activity pre-pandemic, and it's still growing, and we expect by the end of 2024 to have come back to this pre-pandemic level. Yes, we are expecting some growth. David, any addition to this?

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

The only thing I'd add is obviously the sale of half our interest in Bermuda will reduce the Bermuda piece, even though underlying traffic will continue to recover. Otherwise, as Jean-Louis said, the growth will really be driven by the utilities business, which continues to be very strong and see good opportunities. A lot have been built on the back of some of the small token acquisitions we've done over the last five or six years, where we're starting to see some real traction in areas like electricity transmission and distribution, as well as expanding our telecommunication work into other regions. Still, lots of very positive tailwinds.

Michael Tupholme
Director and Equity Research, TD Securities

All right. That's perfect. Thanks very much.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

All right. Thanks so much.

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Thank you so much.

Michael Tupholme
Director and Equity Research, TD Securities

Thanks. Bye.

Operator

Thank you. The next question today comes from the line of Chris Murray from ATB Capital Markets. Please go ahead, Chris. Your line is now open.

Chris Murray
Managing Director and Institutional Equity Research, ATB Capital Markets

Thanks, folks. Just following maybe on Mike's question a little bit, just thinking about revenue contribution from these things, these projects not in backlog. Is it fair to think in the development phase that it's gonna be fairly de minimis revenue over the next little while? Or is somehow this the work there getting some blended into the recurring revenue bucket cause a lot of it will be things like utility moves and things like that in advance?

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

It's not part of the recurring revenue, Chris, on the basis that, you know, this isn't kind of a long-term master service agreement type arrangement like we have in utilities, where these agreements go out for many years, and we do the same type of work year in, year out. It won't go through recurring revenue. I mean, it is relatively small compared to when we get into the execution phase of both those projects. It will still add some reasonable revenue in 2023 and 2024 just based on recovery in terms of the people we have working on those projects, working through all the scoping and pricing and engineering that's all being paid for and creates revenue.

It's, as you say, relatively small compared to when we get into the execution phase. More in the CAD tens of millions.

Chris Murray
Managing Director and Institutional Equity Research, ATB Capital Markets

Sure.

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

than the CAD hundreds of millions, let's put it that way.

Chris Murray
Managing Director and Institutional Equity Research, ATB Capital Markets

Okay. That's helpful. Then just one quick kind of modeling follow-up question. On the divestitures that you guys have planned for Q2, I'm sure you've had a chance now to take a look at how you're gonna do the, on the financial structure. Dave, just tax, I'm assuming the airport, that's always been a low or zero tax jurisdiction. You know, am I right to think that there should be no tax impact on that one? Are there any, do you have any tax deferrals or other pools that maybe you could draw from that we should be thinking about with the sale of the ATE?

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Yeah. For both, the tax implications are relatively minor compared to the overall proceeds, as you mentioned. Well, virtually all of Bermuda will have no tax impact. Then on ATE, yes, in terms of how that's structured, there will be tax, but it won't be a huge number.

Chris Murray
Managing Director and Institutional Equity Research, ATB Capital Markets

Okay. That's helpful. Thanks, folks.

Operator

Thank you. The next question today comes from the line of Gabriel Moreau from iA Capital Markets. Please go ahead, Gabriel. Your line is now open.

Gabriel Moreau
Analyst, IA Capital Markets

Hi, good morning. You state in your MD&A that you will be using the proceeds from the asset sale to reduce the leverage and repay the convertible debt, but can you comment on your other capital allocation priorities?

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Yeah. In addition to that, you know, we continue to be focused on the opportunity to add to the business in terms of smaller ticket type acquisitions. We've been particularly active on that in the utility space, and I think we've seen the benefit of that in terms of the numbers we talked earlier about recurring revenue and I referenced the fact that we're starting to see some real synergy from those ticket acquisitions now, and I think we see lots more opportunities in that space. That will continue to be a focus as well as, you know, maintaining the dividend policy, which is being featured for us over the last decade or so. That remains important. Those plus reducing leverage would be the main considerations.

Gabriel Moreau
Analyst, IA Capital Markets

You could potentially use the proceed for other short-term priorities.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Well, I'm not saying they're short-term priorities. The growth of the business in areas like utilities through tuck in M&A is part of our long-term strategy, as is the dividend policy. You know, I think they're all part of the theme of where we see the business going and the huge opportunities we see in the market ahead of us.

Gabriel Moreau
Analyst, IA Capital Markets

Thank you. That's all for me.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. Our next question today comes from the line of Jonathan Lamers from Laurentian Bank. Please go ahead, Jonathan. Your line is now open.

Jonathan Lamers
Analyst, Laurentian Bank Securities

Good morning. Thank you. Following the sale of the minority interest in the Bermuda Airport, could you comment on the types of new infrastructure opportunities you plan to pursue, in terms of which end markets are of interest or geographies?

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Yes. Mainly speaking, as we have announced, we are extremely interested with the energy transition. It represents, I mean, different end segments, but the opportunities here are huge. I mean, I just take an example for Ontario, as per the last IESO report, it's becoming clear that decarbonizing the grid by 2050 requires a system capacity of 88,000 megawatt. I just remind you that at the moment, Ontario has 40,000 megawatt. The CapEx associated to this is about CAD 400 billion, which will take time, but it's on the way. I mean, just in nuclear, where Aecon is extremely strong, it's 18,000 megawatt additional that has to be built during the next 25 years. We are speaking about refurbishing.

I mean, evidently, you probably have noticed that the refurbishment program where Aecon is working are going quite well. The second unit of Darlington should be connected to the grid during the summer, earlier than forecasted, perfectly under budget. The one at Bruce before the end of the year. There is now a little more knowledge about what could be done at Pickering, and the decision will be taken during the year 2023. It's also about new build. I mean, you know about the SMR contract, I mean, on which we are engaged on in alliance model with OPG, GE Hitachi and SNC, also new large reactors. I mean, there's a lot to do.

There's a lot to do, to come back to Ontario on what we call the new northern hydro project. There's a lot to do in storage. It may be pumped storage; it may be battery storage. I mean, Aecon is very active in this field. Construction and concession. It's also about hydrogen. This is really where Aecon wants to be, and it's one of the main reasons for our divesture of ATE. We just think that we can develop much better competitive advantage, I mean, in this energy transition, and we are working on this.

Jonathan Lamers
Analyst, Laurentian Bank Securities

Okay, thanks for your comments.

Operator

Thank you. The next question today is a follow-up question from Michael Tupholme from TD Securities. Please go ahead, Michael. Your line is now open.

Michael Tupholme
Director and Equity Research, TD Securities

Thank you. wanted to ask you about the margin profile of the backlog. Wondering if we exclude the 4 legacy fixed price projects that have been negatively impacted by additional costs, and we look at the remainder of the backlog. Can you talk about what the margin profile of that remainder of the backlog looks like versus what it looked like about a year ago?

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Yeah. you know, we obviously don't give detailed margin guidance. In terms of the overall profile, it's positive versus a year ago. If you kind of look at the areas where we're growing and the kind of projects we've been adding to backlog over the last year or so, they tend to be in areas where there's a bit more predictability. We've seen the kind of fixed price level of backlog come down fairly significantly over the last 12 months. That gives us a good view as to where we expect margins to be over the next little while, and we certainly expect them to be stronger over the next 12-24 months than they were over the previous 12 months.

Michael Tupholme
Director and Equity Research, TD Securities

Perfect. Then, one additional question. When we look at the backlog expected to be executed over the next 12 months, currently sits around $3.1 billion, which I think is up slightly on a sequential basis. Is it possible to break that figure down between how much of that work is coming from the four fixed price legacy projects versus all of the other work that would fall outside of those in terms of the composition of that $3.1 billion of next 12 months backlog?

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Maybe I can add some elements for this. I mean, to come back to your previous question, it has to be clear that for Aecon, the top line is not an issue. I mean, we have a strong backlog of CAD 6 billion. I've always said that we are comfortable at this level of backlog. Plus, our three progressive design-build which are under development phases that will add something similar to CAD 6 billion. We are focused. Your question was about margin in the backlog. We are absolutely focused on the quality of our backlog. It means the bottom line to increase the predictability of this bottom line. This is our work every day.

When we come back to these four-legacy project, as announced, we still have something like CAD 800 million in backlog for those projects. Of the total indicated of CAD 6,000 million, it's something like 13%. On the most probable backlog after addition of the progressive design-build, I mean, it's around 6%. Three of those four project are expected to be substantially completed before the end of 2023 or in the Q1 of 2024, with one remaining up to mid-2025. This gives you more or less an idea of what is the share of revenue that will come from this project.

Michael Tupholme
Director and Equity Research, TD Securities

Okay. That's very helpful. Thank you.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Okay. Thank you for that.

Operator

Thank you. The next question today comes from the line of Frederic Bastien from Raymond James. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Frederic Bastien
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Raymond James

Good morning. Guys, there is growing momentum for the development of a high-speed rail network between Quebec City and Toronto, and that feels to me like the related work would be right in your wheelhouse. Can you comment on how realistic this idea is, given that, you know, we don't really have the same population density as some European countries? Secondly, whether this is indeed something that you'd be interested in bidding for and participating in.

Jean-Louis Servranckx
President and CEO, Aecon Group

Okay. Interesting question. I mean, first of all, you have noticed that the announcement, it's about high frequency and not high speed. Second, there's still a lot to do from what we understand as a RFQ is probably just in, we will know very quickly who has been prequalified. The RFP should be over within 1 year from now, so that we will have the winner in terms of development. I remind you that at this stage, the organizer has excluded from the process rolling stock or equipment manufacturers and contractors. Which means that we are not yet there, but we are, of course, we are, I mean, extremely interested with this project. What do I think?

I mean, you know I'm coming from Europe. High-speed train has really changed our countries in Europe. It's evident that for me, the aim is to get a safe and reliable less than two-hour trip between Toronto and Montreal. By the way, I mean, it's probably not worth It. It depends on what. I mean, it depends on a clear dedicated line where the freight has not the priority for the high speed or high frequency rails. Most of the issue to reduce time are the entry and exit to cities. There's a lot of infrastructure coming, I mean, in those cases. I think it's gonna be a very interesting project. There's no reason.

I mean, when you see this corridor between Quebec, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, there's no reason that high speed or high frequency train cannot be perfectly efficient.

Operator

Thank you. The next question today comes from the line of Maxim Sytchev from National Bank Financial. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Maxim Sytchev
Managing Director and Research Industrial Products, National Bank Financial

Hi. Good morning, gentlemen. David, maybe just a financial question for you? When we're thinking about free cash flow generation and kind of, you know, the lack of it for the last couple of years, what needs to happen for this metric to turn into a positive territory, and specifically around the pacing of working capital drag? Maybe just any color for the next 12 to 18 months, please. Thanks.

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

Yeah. Certainly, it's heavily tied to resolution on the four legacy projects. As you know, we have outstanding negotiations going on in each of those projects, and an arbitration scheduled on CGL. A lot of that working capital build is tied to those four projects. As we reach resolution on those, that will certainly generate cash and reduce some of that working capital. That's the primary focus. If we look at working capital excluding those four projects, overall, it continues to be kinda commensurate with the growth in the business. Obviously, we've seen pretty significant top line growth over the last couple of years, which obviously requires some working capital along with that.

It's the four legacy projects that have really dampened the cash flow profile over the last 18, 24 months.

Maxim Sytchev
Managing Director and Research Industrial Products, National Bank Financial

I guess, I mean, if you settle, like, I don't know, like half of them this year, do you think, you know, positive free cash flow generation is, you know, possible in 2023 or just too difficult to forecast given all the moving parts?

David Smales
EVP and CFO, Aecon Group

If we were to sell two of them this year, then yeah, I'm fairly confident that we would have positive free cash flow this year. That's the As Jean-Louis said earlier, that's the goal and that's what we're working on. It is dependent on the timing of those resolutions.

Maxim Sytchev
Managing Director and Research Industrial Products, National Bank Financial

Okay. Okay, excellent. Thanks a lot. That's it for me.

Operator

Thank you. There are no additional questions waiting at this time, so I'd like to pass the conference back over to Adam Borgatti for any closing remarks. Please go ahead.

Adam Borgatti
SVP, Corporate Development and Investor Relations, Aecon Group

Very well. Thanks very much, Bailey, and thanks to all for your participation today. As always, if you have any more questions, feel free to follow up with us, and have a great the rest of the day. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect your line.

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