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Earnings Call: Q4 2020

Mar 31, 2020

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the BlackBerry fiscal fourth quarter and fiscal year 2020 results conference call. My name is Josh, and I will be your conference moderator for today's call. During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. We will be facilitating a brief question- and- answer session towards the end of the conference. Should you need assistance during the call, please signal a conference specialist by pressing star zero. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn today's call over to Christopher Lee, Vice President of Finance. Please go ahead.

Christopher Lee
VP of Finance, BlackBerry

Thank you, Josh. Welcome to the BlackBerry fiscal fourth quarter and fiscal year 2020 results conference call. With me on the call today are Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, John Chen, and Chief Financial Officer, Steve Rai. After I read our cautionary note regarding forward-looking statements, John will provide a business update, and Steve will then review the financial results. We will then open the call for a brief Q&A session. This call is available to the general public via calling numbers and via webcast in the investor information section at blackberry.com. A replay will also be available on the blackberry.com website. Some of the statements we'll be making today constitute forward-looking statements and are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of applicable U.S. and Canadian securities laws. We'll indicate forward-looking statements by using words such as expect, will, should, model, intend, believe, and similar expressions.

Forward-looking statements are based on estimates and assumptions made by the company in light of its experience and its perception of historical trends, current conditions and expected future developments, as well as other factors that the company believes are relevant. Many factors could cause the company's actual results or performance to differ materially from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. These factors include the risk factors that are discussed in the company's annual filings in MD&A and the COVID-19 coronavirus outbreak, which is negatively impacting public health, financial markets, and global economic activity. You should not place undue reliance on the company's forward-looking statements. The company has no intention and undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements except as required by law. As is customary during the call, John and Steve will reference non-GAAP numbers in their summary of our quarterly results.

For a reconciliation between our GAAP and non-GAAP numbers, please see the earnings press release and supplement published earlier today, which are available on the EDGAR, SEDAR, and blackberry.com websites. I will now turn the call over to John.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Thank you, Chris. Good afternoon, everybody. Before I speak about the BlackBerry results, I'd like to acknowledge everyone who's doing all they can to contain and overcome the COVID-19 virus. BlackBerry has taken a number of steps to help the global community, including enabling remote working for our customer and employees. We are taking the lead by offering a limited license of our enterprise software products free to organizations around the world for 60 days. Now on to the results. As Chris stated, I will reference non-GAAP number in my summary of our financial results, unless otherwise stated. Let me start off by some highlights for fiscal 2020, the fiscal year entirely. BlackBerry achieved another year of profitable growth. We are pleased to report $1.1 billion in total company revenue, resulting in 20% growth year-over-year. Software and surfaces revenue grew 26% year-over-year.

Earnings per share of $0.13. This amount exceeds the expectation we raised during the year. Positive free cash flow of $14 million. Perhaps the best news is the strong set of products released in the past fiscal year. We released over 30 new products. I'd like to give you some highlights of the one that we're really excited about. QNX Hypervisor 2.0 for safety, which achieves the highest ISO safety standard in the industry. The second product, BlackBerry Intelligent Security, which uses AI to provide adaptive security and Continuous Authentication to overcome the static security vulnerabilities. Third, the CylanceOPTICS 2.4, our enhanced Endpoint Detection and Response product. Followed by a single agent platform to deploy both CylancePROTECT as well as CylanceOPTICS. Followed by our Mobile Threat Defense product, MTD product, that integrates our AI-based endpoint security capabilities with our portfolio of endpoint management technologies.

Our peers do not have a full mobile solution like we do. Last but not final, the BlackBerry Digital Workplace, which delivers lightweight, secure desktop virtualization while eliminating the need for VPN and adding AI-based protection. Digital Workplace can be deployed on corporate and personally-owned devices used by the entire sales force or the workforce, sorry. Excuse me. The workforce. This is a must-have for secure remote worker productivity and business continuity. Additionally, we made tremendous progress in the development of the Spark platform. I will speak more about that later. Let me provide some highlights for the fourth fiscal quarters. Total revenue came in as $291 million. We achieved positive year-over-year software and services billing growth. We also have a healthy sequential billing performance from enterprise software and services. Gross margin was 77%, operating income was $51 million, and operating margin was 18%.

Both of these are very strong results compared sequentially. It's an increase from $20 million and 7%, respectively, from Q3. EPS came in as $0.09, which was $0.05 higher than expectations we had for the quarter. Free cash flow of $32 million, contributing to a total ending cash and investment balance of $990 million. Let's move into the business commentary. Let me start with a sentence on licensing business. Revenue increased 9% year-over-year. We had better than expected performance due to some business that actually came in early. Moving on to the IoT business. The IoT business underperformed in the quarter due primarily to BTS. BTS has been unexpectedly impacted by the slowdown in the auto industry supply chain due to the COVID-19. Unfortunately, we expect this trend to continue for the near future due to temporary global auto production shutdowns and related slowdowns of auto sales.

Customer and prospect have become more cautious in their decision-making related to capital expenditure and development. The leading indicator to us was that we expected two large transactions with reliable customers that were unfortunately delayed. While our fourth fiscal quarter results were impacted, we believe these two delayed transaction will occur as the business environment return to normal. On a positive note, BlackBerry QNX continued to gain design wins. We were chosen for 31 design wins in the quarter. 16, one six, were in the automotive market, and 15 were in the general embedded market. Within the auto market, the vast majority of the design wins came in were ADAS, the Advanced Driver Assist program, and digital instrument cluster applications.

These wins, secured through our customer like Bosch, Continental, and Veoneer, just to name a few of those tier one, continue the trend of increasing our pool and volume in the future and will continue to be the leading provider of safety certified software to the industry. Within the general embedded market, we saw increased demand in the industrial and medical verticals, including being chosen by Wabtec Corporation, a global leader in transportation solutions who merged with GE Transportation last year. As noted in the last few quarters, growth in the general embedded market has been a stated priority, a strategic priority for us at BlackBerry. A brief update on our Radar business. In the quarter, we saw continued growth in both the number of shipped units and service revenue. We added seven new customers, resulting in 50 new customers, 50, in the fiscal year.

Additionally, we continue to have steady repeat buying from existing customers. Moving on to our Enterprise Software and Services business. The sales team executed well, resulting in sequential billing growth in the high teens percentage. Our fourth quarter ESS billing was at its highest level in fiscal 2020. The billing strength was across all the ESS businesses, led by strong performance from both the UEM, the endpoint management, as well as AtHoc. On the customer front, our regulated industry business such as government, financial services, and healthcare, remains healthy and stable. We also experienced strength in our non-regulated industry business, most notably the energy and utility vertical, as well as the manufacturing vertical. We added several large size wins, both new logos and upsell in competitive situation. Let me highlight a few. General Dynamics, a Fortune 100 aerospace and defense leaders. CGI, a global professional services and consulting company.

Johns Hopkins Aramco Healthcare, a leading healthcare provider in Saudi Arabia. EVN Group, one of the largest producers and transporters of electricity in Europe, Nippon Steel, one of the world's largest steel producers. Our pipeline is building for our new product as well, notably for the MTD, the Mobile Threat Defense, and the BlackBerry Intelligent Security. On to our BlackBerry Cylance business. Revenue was up slightly year-over-year against a reasonably tough comp. Billing increased sequentially as we anticipated. We're highly competitive against other next-generation AV players because of the following reasons. Number one, BlackBerry Cylance is the best mobile solution in the market. Number two, our lightweight solution protect all endpoints whether they are connected or not. Other next-gen AV players only protect when the endpoint is connected to their cloud.

Number three, instead of being cloud only, we support cloud managed, on-premise, and hybrid deployment models. Last but not least, we're compatible with both the current and legacy device operating system, especially on the desktop. This was a strong quarter of new logo. Cylance won over 300 new customers. Some of the new logos won in a competitive environment include the Fonterra Co-operative Group, the world's largest dairy exporters. A notable state healthcare organization in Australia. Unfortunately, we don't have permission to name the name. A Fortune 500 financial services company based in the Midwest of the U.S. Mizuho Securities, which was a cross-sell opportunity to leverage our UEM relationships, and Hartford Financial Services Group, a leader in insurance vertical that was won through our managed service partner with Verizon. As a result, ARR was $167 million, up 9% year-over-year.

Our dollar-based net retention rates continue to be over 90%. As I previously said, with the lead to momentum, we'll only continue now that BlackBerry Cylance is a full portfolio, plus other BlackBerry capabilities in the market. Before I turn the call over to Steve, let me update you on the Spark platform and the Cylance integration. We have made tangible progress in the development of Spark, our secure IoT platform. This past February, we announced the release of our Unified Endpoint Security, or UES layer, within the Spark platform that leverages AI, machine learning, and automation to deliver zero-trust security across all the stacks and mobile endpoints.

The UES layer is supported by six initial products, which are Endpoint Protection Platform, the EPP, Endpoint Detection and Response, the EDR, the Mobile Threat Defense, the MTD, Continuous Authentication, Data Loss Prevention, known as DLP, and Secure Web Gateway. These products work seamlessly together to analyze and define risks, make contextual decisions based on large amount of shared data, and dynamically apply a set of policy control to address the risks of our customer environment. This platform development is in line with the marketplace convergence noted by Gartner, who has seen the consolidation of MTD offerings with EDR and EPP tools and calling this combined stack Unified Endpoint Security. Gartner sees this stack forming a single solution during the next three to five years and indicated that organizations should invest with UES in mind.

Gartner also noted that 70% of organizations will need a combined endpoint management console by 2024, and 50% of the organizations will have to have Mobile Threat Defense by 2022, which is up from 20% this year. Given our product and the marketplace progression, we are now ready to increase go-to-market synergies and go after these big UES and UEM opportunities. Accordingly, we have successfully integrated the entire finance organization, including sales and R&D teams, into our IoT business segment, effective March 1, 2020, which was just a month ago. We believe a unified team leads to broader customer coverage, a richer product roadmap, a clearer sales message, and most importantly, very differentiated offerings.

The value proposition to a customer is that BlackBerry Sparks provide the highest level of security and management with a simpler yet more productive user experience on any endpoint, fixed or mobile, from any location over any network. Many of you actually have asked me over the past several quarters about BlackBerry prospects in the competitive landscape, especially against much larger players. I could not provide you a complete answer then, only to tell you that we're working on it, because the solution at the time was under development. We now have a differentiated technology architecture that's ready to ship in the market. Today, our UES products work with BlackBerry UEM. However, we recognize that customer may be using a competitor's or often more than one UEM products.

Therefore, in the near future, as part of our roadmap, our UES solution will be made compatible with Intune, AirWatch, and other competitors' UEM products to give customer the best of both worlds, namely preserving investment while enjoying the benefit of the highest security and management that BlackBerry provides. We believe UES changes the competitive dynamics, and our operative objectives now is to gain market share because UES is complementary to, but not a direct competitor of the non-BlackBerry UEM products. Also BlackBerry UEM will maintain our leadership in the regulated industry due to our continued focus and commitment on security and management. In time, we believe this Spark architecture expand our total addressable market, including in the IoT security area. With that, let me turn over to Steve to provide more details about our financial performance.

Steve Rai
CFO, BlackBerry

Thank you, John. My comments on our financial performance for the fiscal quarter will be in non-GAAP terms, unless otherwise noted. Please refer to the supplemental table in the press release for the GAAP and non-GAAP details and reconciliation. We delivered fourth quarter non-GAAP total company revenue of $291 million and GAAP total company revenue of $282 million. I will break down revenue shortly. Fourth quarter total company gross margin was 77%. Our non-GAAP gross margin includes software deferred revenue acquired but not recognized of $9 million and excludes stock compensation expense of $2 million. Fourth quarter operating expenses of $172 million were down sequentially by $23 million, and we continue to invest in product development and go to market. At the same time, we continue to demonstrate cost discipline across the entire company and gain operating leverage, in particular at Cylance.

Our non-GAAP operating expenses exclude $35 million in amortization of acquired intangibles, which equates to about $0.06 impact to GAAP earnings per share. Additionally, our non-GAAP operating expenses exclude $27 million in goodwill and long-term asset impairment charges, $15 million in stock compensation expense, $3 million for software deferred commissions expense acquired, $1 million in acquisition and integration costs, $1 million in restructuring costs, and a charge of $5 million related to the fair value adjustment on the convertible debenture. Fourth quarter non-GAAP operating income was $51 million, five one, and fourth quarter non-GAAP net income was also $51 million. Non-GAAP earnings per share was $0.09 in the quarter. Our adjusted EBITDA was $68 million this quarter, excluding the non-GAAP adjustments previously mentioned. This equates to an adjusted EBITDA margin of 23%. I will now provide a breakdown of our revenue in the quarter.

Total software and services revenue was $287 million, representing 99% of total company revenue. Other revenue is solely comprised of service access fees, which were $4 million and were expected to decline given the continued wind down of this legacy business. Recurring software and services revenue, excluding IP licensing and professional services revenue, was about 90% in the quarter. Moving to our balance sheet and cash flow performance. Total cash equivalents and investments were $990 million at February 29, 2020, which increased by $20 million from November 30, 2019. Our net cash position was $385 million at the end of the quarter. Fourth quarter free cash flow, before considering the impact of acquisition and integration expenses, restructuring costs, and legal proceedings, was $+36 million. Cash generated from operations was $35 million, and capital expenditures were $3 million. That concludes my comments.

I'll turn the call back to John to provide our financial outlook for fiscal 2021.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Thank you, Steve. Is it back on? Thank you, Steve. Currently, I'm sure you all agree there's a lot of uncertainty across the global economy due to the COVID-19. Therefore, it is not prudent for BlackBerry to provide any specific fiscal 2021 financial outlook as things are changing almost on a daily basis. However, I'd like to make some macro comments on our business. Our revenue most likely will be negatively impacted by continued headwinds to global auto production and sales. We anticipated continued delay in capital spending in the auto, as well as the other industry. At the same time, this negative impact could be partially offset because our product and services portfolio is well suited to help enterprise meet the challenges of business continuity driven by the dramatic expansion of remote workers or the number of remote workers.

We are known for offering the best security and productivity solution. These products and services, including our UEM product, Cylance, BlackBerry Digital Workplace, Secusmart, which is secure voice and fax solution, as well as AtHoc, our crisis communication solution, including the new situation response product, which is the entire lifecycle of managing crisis. In fact, we are experiencing increased demand. More transaction and inquiries comes in daily from new and existing customer, resulting in more licenses being deployed. Furthermore, our Cylance products, including CylanceGUARD, which are cloud-based managed detection and response offering, are helping customer to combat growing cybersecurity and privacy risk as the number of BYOD endpoints increases in a remote working environment. While it is difficult to predict the volume of business year-over-year, the company will remain strongly focused on the overall financial health in fiscal 2021.

The management team has managed through uncertain times in the past and has a track record in balancing profitability and investment for our long-term growth. As it related to the shape of fiscal 2021, we anticipate a tough first quarter due to the COVID-19 impact on our business. This may linger into the second quarter, but we do anticipate a stronger second half of fiscal year versus the first half of the fiscal year. When looking beyond 2021, we do not believe this current global crisis changes BlackBerry's strategy and the thesis of any of our long-term profitability growth and value creation. I would now like to open up for Q&A. Josh?

Operator

We will now begin the question- and- answer session. To ask a question, you may press star one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Again, please press star one to ask a question. We'll pause for just a moment to allow everyone an opportunity to signal for questions. We do request that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Our first question comes from Daniel Chan with TD Securities. Please go ahead.

Daniel Chan
Analyst, TD Securities

Well, hi.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Hi, Daniel.

Daniel Chan
Analyst, TD Securities

Thank you for taking my question. Hi, John.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Yeah.

Daniel Chan
Analyst, TD Securities

Given the macro uncertainty, how are you thinking about capital requirements? In particular, how much do you need, and what are your plans for the convert?

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Yeah. After paying off the convert, we have $385 million of cash or equivalent. We have made some assumptions under a stress test environment. A couple assumptions. Number one, we will pay back our convert. The good news for paying back our convert is that we would save roughly about $23 million a year in interest payment. Obviously, the cash balance will go down quite a bit. We also assume there is no financing work being done, and part of the reason is, as you know very well, you probably know much better than I do, last couple of weeks, the market isn't really available. I think it's starting to loosen up a little bit. We assume no financing. We assume no dramatic cutback of headcount or investment for the future. This is why I said earlier, we're going to balance profitability and long-term growth.

We know this will pass. We know things will come back to normal, and we believe we have very competitive strategy and products, so we don't want to compromise the future. At the same time, we don't want to put ourselves in a financially difficult position. We're going to be working balancing that. We're not saying that we're going to overhaul anything to disrupt our investment thesis. Given those as kind of the background, we ran through the scenario of revenue coming down by 20%, by 30%, by 50%, you would expect anybody to do in modeling. We believe we are quite comfortable, unless it's in very extreme condition, which we are not anticipating. We are quite comfortable to be able to last the liquidity and the financial health for a couple of years.

Daniel Chan
Analyst, TD Securities

Oh, that's very helpful. Thank you.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

You're welcome.

Daniel Chan
Analyst, TD Securities

I want to shift gears a little bit to the enterprise software side. It sounds like things are improving there. Can you give us a sense on whether the enterprise software segment grew year-over-year? Maybe give us a sense of how well you see your go-to-market, and your channel. Is it developing the way that you anticipated?

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Yeah. I don't have, I think I checked the year-over-year numbers. What I could tell you, from a billings growth perspective, we saw a very healthy Q4, better than double-digit over Q3. That feels good. The business are there. We have a hiccup. I think we overcame the hiccup. We have people very committed going after the business. We got infrastructure build-up for both the renew and new businesses, that we won't let fall through the crack. A while back, it was really us doing, our doing, for not being more diligent on some of the stuff. Now I think those are all overcome. We have number of layers that watches our business, as I said, both in the new renew and the new logo, going after the new logo. We have a bigger sales force now.

The combination of the Cylance into this IoT portfolio with the UES makes it even more exciting because now each of our sales rep has small things to sell. The Cylance sales rep could sell the UEM, AtHoc and other products, mainly UEM, I believe. Vice versa. The UEM sales force now combined as one could sell the UES product, which included a lot of the Cylance and AI technology. We feel good about the focus. We feel good about how we align the territories. Majority of our sales is still going direct. We are building channel business, but that benefit will probably kick in mid-year this year or maybe towards the end of the year.

Operator

Your next question comes from Dan Bartus with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Hi, Daniel.

Dan Bartus
Analyst, Bank of America

Hey, guys.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Hi

Dan Bartus
Analyst, Bank of America

taking the questions. First I wanted to ask about the competitive environment for endpoint and security.

On the one hand, we have CrowdStrike growing very well. They have a similar approach, it seems like, to Cylance. You have others like VMware and Microsoft that can follow your moves to integrate the classic UEM business with the endpoint security potentially. It'd be great to just get an update on the competitive landscape you're seeing for Cylance. I'm curious if the combined UEM and security is a real conversation yet with customers. I have a quick follow-up.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Okay. That's a good question. I took a little while to lay out, sorry, not label. To lay out why we win some of the Cylance deal. As I said earlier, Cylance have secured over 300 new logo in the quarter. We're winning against somebody. I don't want to name names of who we were winning against. To summarize, it looks like with a Cylance one, the win rate basically comes from, A, we are the mobile leader. B, we don't always need the cloud, we do secure protection on the endpoint, both offline and online, that differentiate us. We have now managed service and a full suite of products. That also was a factor. Those are, among other things, those are three that I feel jumped out at me when I look at the win.

The combination of that whole set of Cylance portfolio with the managed service and the management tools that UEM has, it's exactly where the market is going and it's verified and confirmed by Gartner. That's what they named this whole segment called UES, Unified Endpoint Security, which is a combination of mobile and fix, cloud and on-premise, and also manages and threat detection and protection. We just happen to be an early provider of the product, and I'm hoping that therefore give us a much more competitive advantage against some of our big players, and our big competitors out there, and then we'll win, hopefully, a unfair share of the deals. Finally, most of you have asked me the question about, there are some of our traditional competitors that provide site licenses.

If you look at everything that we offer, we are above, for example, a site license called E5 will be a lot cheaper than E5 and much better security product. E5 is not free, unlike the ELA free. I believe that we could be competitive out there.

Dan Bartus
Analyst, Bank of America

Great. That's very helpful. Then just quickly on the licensing strength. When we entered this year, you guys were thinking that segment might be down 5% or so year-over-year, and then it turned out to really surprise up 15%. I was wondering if you could just kind of walk through what changed throughout the year, and more importantly, did this strength come at the expense of some fiscal 2021 licensing strength? Thanks.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Yeah. I like to be conservative. It is a good business because it's very good margin and unfortunately, you all know very well that it's somewhat lumpy. The timing is a little hard to predict than just the kind of enterprise transactions. Because of that, I'm always conservative. I think I prefer to still plan it at about a $250 mark for the FY 2021 and hoping we'll do better. It is really hard to predict. Now, this quarter, I didn't expect it to come in that strong, honestly. It's been strong over the entire year.

Dan Bartus
Analyst, Bank of America

Good. Thanks, guys.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Paul Treiber with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Paul Treiber
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Thanks very much, and good afternoon.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Good afternoon.

Paul Treiber
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Just trying to understand the BTS segment a little bit more. Can you speak to the magnitude of the decline in the quarter? Is that driven predominantly from royalties on the volume of production or there are other non-recurring items in there, like professional services?

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Yeah

Paul Treiber
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

I guess the licenses of tools that may have contracted?

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Yeah. Paul, unfortunately, it's a little bit of everything. First off, royalties are down. We have projects we believe that we were going to get the developer seats, that has been delayed. Once the new projects are being delayed, mind you, it didn't go away at all. It's just been delayed because a lot of these are tier one and OEM. They start looking at the auto sales figures, and they started to become a little concerned. They'll be a little more cautious. We still won the projects. There's no question about it. The developer seats business had gone down, and those are the higher, you call it one time, the immediate revenue type.

Once the developer seats got slowed down, normally they come with some portion of professional services so that they have us help them to deploy it and to start the new projects. That, of course, is also slowed down because of that. It is a rather unusual situation, and I don't expect it to last long. Our game plan is to do more of the professional services work on a remote basis. Of course, you have to get the authorization from the customers, which they're working remote also. We should be able to get that. Second thing is to go after more of the GEM growth, because then they would need to buy developer seats. Those are the two. Continue working with our auto customers, obviously, because they will come back.

It's not going to just end, so they will come back. It may take a quarter, another quarter, but that's about what I expect it to be.

Paul Treiber
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay, that's helpful. Just shifting to COVID-19. In regards to the promotions that you've implemented or announced, could you provide some metrics on the uptake of that? What do you expect in terms of potential conversion longer term?

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Yeah. Okay. My people are probably going to yell at me, but I'll give you the update. In the first week, I think we saw our pipeline grew at least $30 million. These are good pipeline because this is the one that actually came to us with strong needs. Customers are able, in some cases, process a PO in record time. I mean, you guys know all this, so I'm not saying anything that you don't. I say we do have that situation, it's a lot of different software company. I'm not saying anything to you that are very Sand Island and very unique, but I just want you all to know that we do have a piece of business that in an environment like this, unfortunately benefit from this whole crisis. We do okay in that area.

That's about the only metrics I could share with you. That's more than what anybody would tell you at BlackBerry.

Operator

Your next question comes from Mike Walkley with Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Hi.

Mike Walkley
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Great. Thank you. Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Just following up a little bit on cost structure. How should we think about kind of the investment level? It sounds like you guys feel good with the team in place and want to invest for the long term, but OpEx was a little lower than expected this quarter, and I imagine it could be lower again just given lack of travel, entertainment type budget, things like that. Is there an OpEx rate you're looking at maybe on a run rate for the calendar year that we can think about?

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

I did not calculate it that. We know we have a number level. For example, in our plan, there, of course, replacement of attrition of headcount would probably, again, given this environment, we'll still be hiring people or we actually make some offers lately, we're going to hire in areas of quoted carriers, people that are billables, so that could help us on the revenue side. The other areas, unless it's very specific, like we just recently hired a very strong data scientist. Of course, we'll always be looking for excellent people like that. Other areas we might slow down, we probably not might, we are slowing down. Partly because it's just everybody's working from home and we have a global work from home now.

It's just difficult to do the interview and the processing, the background check and the references check. It just take much longer. There will be some natural reduction of cost built in. Although obviously, we look at our capital spending very carefully, and that also. Like you pointed out, travel goes down literally, 95%. Probably even conservative when I say that. That nobody's traveling at all. There are other areas that we could take some costs out, infrastructures, facilities, that kind of areas.

Mike Walkley
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Okay, thanks. Just my follow-up question, just circling back to the licensing, which was strong as you laid out this year. Can you share with us just kind of heading into this year what the recurring revenue run rate is? I know $250 might be a good number for the year, is there a recurring piece you feel is pretty solid for the calendar year coming up? Thank you.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Yeah, in my model, I mean, saying that last year I realized that I probably don't have a whole ton of credibility because I tell everybody it was about $250. I'm going to tell you it's going to be about $250 for the coming fiscal year. I hope this time you will believe me a little bit more. Last year, we have a lot of things, a lot of deals in play. They came in through the various time of the year, so, different quarters. I believe this year, planning on $250 is reasonable.

Operator

Your next question comes from Gus Papageorgiou with PI Financial. Please go ahead.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Hey, Gus.

Gus Papageorgiou
Analyst, PI Financial

Thanks for taking the question. Just a couple of questions. Steve, on the $27 million goodwill impairment, can you just tell us a little bit what was that for?

Steve Rai
CFO, BlackBerry

Yeah, the impairment, I think was $22 million.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

22, yeah.

Steve Rai
CFO, BlackBerry

That related to the BBM consumer. It was a while back. This was a licensing arrangement, we were no longer operating the consumer BBM piece eventually, it was known that there were certain amounts that we were going to receive under the agreement. Naturally we had to allocate some goodwill to it back in time since that service has been shut down during the year, the impairment results from that.

Gus Papageorgiou
Analyst, PI Financial

Great. Thanks. I guess on QNX and the auto, so obviously we're seeing volumes under pressure here in the short term, but I guess part of the plan for QNX is that you should increase your market share, but also the ASP per car should go up as car manufacturers adopt more software modules. Do you think the ASP growth is going to get pushed back as well? Do you think that it's just a volume issue in the short term, but we should still see ASPs increase this year and then increase again next year?

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

It is short-term in a volume base, not the ASP. The ARPU has gone up because if you look back in the last three, four, five quarters when we announced results, we talk about the design win in clusters, instrumentation, hypervisors, ADAS, OTA. We talk about those wins. Those wins all carry a higher ARPU, ASP, than the traditional IVI business.

Gus Papageorgiou
Analyst, PI Financial

Okay, they're not getting deferred at all.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

No. Not that we could see. We are basically based on, at this point, it's really more volume versus less volume.

Gus Papageorgiou
Analyst, PI Financial

Great. Thanks.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Yeah.

Operator

Your next question comes from Paul Steep with Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Paul Steep
Analyst, Scotiabank

Great.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Hey.

Paul Steep
Analyst, Scotiabank

Thanks. Hey, John, can you maybe?

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Hi

Paul Steep
Analyst, Scotiabank

talk just one, a little bit about AtHoc and what we've seen there? That's one area that I'm assuming you're seeing a lift in, and then I'll give you one quick follow-up. Thanks.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

AtHoc, an environment like this. For those of you who haven't really followed our AtHoc business, it is very strong in the federal government and when I meant federal government, I actually meant the U.S. federal government. We have over 2 million seats in the U.S. federal government space, including armed forces and so forth. Of course, in Canada, AtHoc is in the parliament and the other G15 countries, a lot of them uses AtHoc and coordinate security and prices. We haven't really got out of the government and the federal space, which we are beginning to see us getting into. There's a company called Everbridge, a public company, they do exactly what we do, they are more in the state, local, and education market, which we're interested in. We're hiring people, building that up.

This is an opportunity of growth, and it looks like that we are quite competitive. We just released our latest product, which we're very proud of, which is the life cycle management of a crisis. Anyway, I think this is going to be a good growth engine.

Paul Steep
Analyst, Scotiabank

Great. The last one from me would be, maybe you could talk a little bit about where you see the organization being. You've obviously changed things around, integrated Cylance, and it looks like you got a new head of field operations and marketing.

sales is what that title means. How should we think about any changes to the sales force? Secondly, how would you recapture any of the cost saves from letting go a few people in the Cylance area? Would you redirect that capital to growth, or are you just going to sort of hold on to it in the current environment? Thanks.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

First off, I'm very pleased to, when you combine two organizations like that who have traditionally their own infrastructure and sales management, I got the luxury to pick the A team, between the so-called legacy BlackBerry and Cylance. It helps save a lot of the management infrastructure costs that we will then throw it back into hiring reps around the world. The equation works out fine for us. Dave Castignola is picked to run sales, field marketing, and customer services, for Spark, which is a combination for the UEM and Cylance products. We now have one organization do that. As we cascade down to a number of levels, whether it's the regional manager or country managers and so forth, we obviously had the luxury of picking one versus the other person.

That, in my mind, give us a cleaner structure and also give us an opportunity to pick the better person. At the same time, there are a number of opportunity out there and geographies and regions that actually have both very strong person, and very promising person. We're able to deploy one of the two to a solution side of the business, which are AtHoc, SecuSUITE, Secusmart, and QNX. For example, we now have a solution team in Asia Pac, leading by some really good people. We're taking advantage of the talents pool and the simplification of the organizations.

Operator

Your next question comes from Trip Chowdhry with Global Equities Research. Please go ahead.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Hey, Trip.

Trip Chowdhry
Analyst, Global Equities Research

Thank you. A very good execution in a terrible environment. I have two quick questions. First, regarding your Digital Workplace.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Yeah.

Trip Chowdhry
Analyst, Global Equities Research

I think you are giving this product free for six months. Do you see that business to give you some uplift, as you mentioned in your prepared remarks in the second half. Do you think that product is playing an important role? The second question I have is, Zoom is getting more popular, but they are terrible in providing the security and privacy. Do you think some sort of OEM engagement or relationship with companies like Zoom could be, if they use Digital Workplace, those issues could be put to rest? Any thought from that?

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Good. Thank you. The first question is Digital Workplace. It's a brand new product for us. We just released it probably no more than a couple of months. It's slightly early to tell, but through this process of the remote working from home, we've been seeing some good license movement on Digital Workplace. Not big enough to make a dent. I will reserve my comment on this, probably wait till a quarter or two from now. It certainly have picked up already and partly because of the environment we're in. Not having to deal with VPN, and be able to put it on BYOD, it's a huge deal. We're now integrating, by the way, on every one of those desktop, we're putting CylancePROTECT on it. I'm hopeful we're certainly doing the right thing. That's one area.

Zoom is obviously picking up quite a bit because of the reason of it. Yes, there were some concerns of security and privacy, and not just Zoom and other players, too. Zoom is part of our containerized program, meaning that Zoom works in a container. If you are a UEM customers, our BlackBerry UEM customers running Zoom, you are already be secure both in the data privacy and the security of it.

Trip Chowdhry
Analyst, Global Equities Research

That's very good to know. The container, is it we are talking about containers in the context of Docker or is this containerized is in some different context? Basically, if I'm a customer of, say, your Unified Endpoint Management and whatever service I put into that container, by default, they will have the same level of security as the underlying platform provides. Is that the correct way to think about it?

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Yeah. The container I was referring to is our endpoint management software, which is a combination of mobile device management and application management. We use the container technology there. That wraps around every application and protect the threat and intrusion of outside agents. I'm talking about that container.

Operator

That is all the time we have for questions. I would like to turn the call back over to John Chen, Executive Chairman and CEO of BlackBerry, for closing remarks.

John Chen
Executive Chairman and CEO, BlackBerry

Okay. Thank you. I was just having fun. Thank you very much for your time today. We look forward to speaking with you at our Analyst Day, which unfortunately we now need to be on webcast because of the working shelter in place. It will be webcast on April 21st, coming April 21st. Lastly, I'd like to take this opportunity to hope you and your family to stay healthy and stay safe as we work together through these challenged times. I added one statement, this crisis shall pass. Looking forward to interacting with all you. Thank you very much for your time.

Operator

This concludes today's call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.