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Earnings Call: Q4 2021

Jan 20, 2022

Operator

Welcome to the Blackline Safety fourth quarter results conference call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode, and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there'll be an opportunity to ask questions. To join the question queue, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. Should you need assistance during the conference call, you may signal an operator by pressing star and zero. I would now like to turn the conference over to Scott Boston, Director of Finance. Please go ahead.

Scott Boston
Director of Finance, Blackline Safety

Welcome, and thank you for joining us. I'd like to remind everyone that this call is being recorded today, Thursday, January 20th, 2022. With me today is Cody Slater, CEO and Chair of Blackline Safety Corp., as well as CFO, Shane Grennan. Before turning the call over to Cody, I would like to note that some of the information discussed in this call is based on information as of today and contains forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from those set forth in such statements. For a discussion of these risks and uncertainties, you should review the forward-looking statements disclosure in the earnings news release, as well as the company's SEDAR filings. During this call, there will be a discussion of IFRS results, non-GAAP financial measures, non-GAAP ratios and supplementary financial measures.

A reconciliation between IFRS results and non-GAAP financial measures is available on the company's earnings news release and MD&A, both of which can be found on our website, blacklinesafety.com, and on SEDAR. All dollar amounts are reported in Canadian dollars, unless otherwise noted. Participants are advised that this webcast is live and also being recorded for playback purposes. An archive of the webcast will be made available on the investor section of our website. Neither this call nor the webcast archive may be re-recorded or otherwise reproduced or distributed without prior written permission from Blackline Safety Corp. With that, I will now hand the call over to Mr. Slater.

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Thank you, Scott. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Blackline Safety's Q4 2021 earnings call. Today, we'll be discussing our fourth quarter and annual results, which were issued before market opening this morning. To set the agenda for today's remarks, I will start by providing a broad company overview. Shane will then discuss some of the highlights of our fourth quarter in greater detail, and I'll conclude with the company's outlook and some closing remarks before we take a few questions. While the last 2 years have been challenging with the impact of the pandemic, Blackline has not only been able to maintain growth during this period, but we have also taken the bold strategy to invest to grow, positioning us to achieve even more aggressive growth when the world returns to a new normal business environment.

Although, as demonstrated by Omicron, we are not through this yet, I am pleased to say that our Q4 shows the impact of this business strategy. Our fourth quarter revenue was CAD 19.3 million, up 67% compared to the fourth quarter last year and 52% over our Q3 revenue, representing one of our strongest quarter-on-quarter rates of growth ever. This has led to a record annual revenue of CAD 54.3 million, which represents 42% growth year-on-year. The investments we've made will continue to drive strong year-on-year growth throughout 2022. With the addition of our new product lines such as G6 and expanded services, we see the company on track for more record growth through this year and into the next.

Outside of our home market here in Canada, total revenue grew 80% year-over-year for a total of CAD 15.6 million as we announced five large multi-year contract wins in the U.S. and the U.K. with new and existing customers. This demonstrates the value of our suite of connected worker and area monitoring solutions to large enterprises, as well as our ability to retain and expand our service levels with these customers. Our service revenue exceeded CAD 8 million for the first time ever in Q4, growing 22% compared to Q4 of the prior year. This also represented a 10% increase over Q3 of this year, with even greater growth to come as the impact of the record new hardware sales in Q4 begin generating service over the next two quarters.

In fact, it is our hardware-enabled software as a service business model that has kept us resilient through the pandemic, with our service revenue growing 64% for the year when compared to the pre-pandemic year ended October 31st, 2019. I will now turn the call over to our CFO, Shane Grennan, to discuss our fourth quarter results and financial position in more detail.

Shane Grennan
CFO, Blackline Safety

Thank you, Cody, and good morning, all. As Cody said, we achieved a new record of CAD 19.3 million in revenue, including product revenue of CAD 11.1 million, which represents a 129% increase from the same quarter last year. Product revenues in the fourth quarter include a large previously announced customer contracts with a Texas-based turnaround service provider, a U.K. defense contractor, a U.S.-based natural gas and electric utility company, and two U.K. water and wastewater authorities. These contracts and our strong retention will drive service revenue growth in the coming years, with the bulk of the units being deployed by Q2 of fiscal 2022. We continue to see strong demand for our G7 EXO area gas monitor, with several of these significant sales contracts for the quarter, including this product line.

Service revenue grew to CAD 8.2 million from CAD 6.7 million or 22%. Software services revenue remained the most significant portion of our service revenue at 83%. In the fourth quarter, total service revenue was boosted by rental revenue of CAD 0.6 million, up 539% from the prior year quarter due to the strong performance of G7 EXO in the industrial turnaround and maintenance season this fall in the United States. We won't see a repeat of this in Q1 due to seasonal industry factors. We see this as a potentially significant market for us in the U.S. and Europe throughout fiscal 2022 and beyond.

As part of our invested growth strategy, we have built out our sales team in the United States over the past year, and we saw significant dividends from this investment in the fourth quarter as revenue increased 81% to CAD 9.4 million. As we've announced previously, we've also added facilities in France, Houston, and the UAE to better access our global sales opportunity and service our existing customer base. I want to highlight the location in Houston as this will serve as a base for the sales, operations, and customer support team that we built throughout the fourth quarter to focus on the rental market opportunity as well as field servicing of our devices in the United States. Expanding the European sales team also continued to demonstrate strong results as total revenue grew 80% compared to the prior year quarter.

I would also note that for the fiscal year 2021, European revenue grew to CAD 15.7 million from CAD 8.3 million, up 88% year-over-year. We continue to see encouraging returns from our channel investments in the rest of the world, with revenue outside North America and Europe growing 62% quarter-over-quarter to CAD 715,000 . Revenue from these geographies exceeded CAD 2.5 million for the 2021 fiscal year and 96% improvement from 2020. We had record service revenue of CAD 8.2 million, driven by recent product sales and strong retention and renewal activity. Service level increases to current and new customers contributed growth of CAD 382,000 in the quarter.

This increase was offset by customers who renewed fewer active devices due to workforce reductions of CAD 193,000 and only CAD 25,000 from customers who declined to renew this quarter. Overall, total service revenue was up 22% this quarter over the prior year's quarter, with software services revenue up 20%. Our service margin percentage improved to 69% from 67%, excluding the Canada Emergency Wage Subsidy or the CEWS, as we continue to add to our revenue base each quarter while maintaining the same cost structure. Product gross margin for the quarter was negatively impacted by global supply chain shortages, causing increased cost of inputs for the company's manufactured devices.

We were able to navigate this with a product gross margin of 30% for the quarter, compared to 37% in the fourth quarter of 2020, excluding the impact of CEWS as we delivered more devices than ever. Our procurement team worked diligently throughout the quarter to maintain the required inflow of components to sustain our manufacturing operations. Despite these challenges, the company was able to improve product gross margin to 24% from 17%, excluding CEWS over the full year. We see these challenges continuing through fiscal 2022. However, we are confident that we will be able to support our sales growth, including bringing G6 to market this summer as expected.

The overall combined gross margin percentage for product and services was 47%, which was lower than the same quarter last year, driven by a sales mix that was more heavily weighted on the product side versus service. When looking at the company's expenses for the quarter, I would draw your attention to the table in our MD&A, which details the amount of CEWS for the quarter and year and their comparative periods. No CEWS funding was recorded in Q4 2021, compared to CAD 0.9 million in Q4 2020. With the conclusion of the program in October 2021, Blackline Safety recorded CAD 1.4 million of CEWS for the fiscal year 2021, compared to CAD 2.9 million recorded in fiscal year 2020. Product research and development costs were up 60% to CAD 4.7 million for the quarter.

Excluding the impact of CEWS and our new subsidiary, Wearable Technologies, the total product research and development cost increase was 21%. The team is continuing to work to ready G6 for market this coming summer, as well as enhancing the Blackline Live portal to offer many new services to our customers and handle all the data that our products generate. Wearable Technologies continues to work under the guidance of our CTO, Brian Sweeney, developing prototypes and features for the G5, our entry into the construction and light industrial markets early in 2023. On the sales and marketing expenses side, we saw an increase of 173% to CAD 9.8 million. Excluding the impact of CEWS and additional cost for Wearable Technologies, the increase was actually 144%.

One of the major contributions to this increase was higher commissions of CAD 1.2 million compared to the same period last year, which were paid on the hardware for the large deals we secured in the quarter. We were also able to return to business travel and trade shows, including the National Safety Council in Orlando during the quarter, which resulted in incremental costs of CAD 688,000 . There was also a CAD 486,000 bad debt charge in the quarter as we settled the last of our severely COVID-impacted receivables. Throughout 2021, we have made preparations to handle significantly increased volumes with the upcoming launch of G6.

We've invested in our operations team with an even greater emphasis on product quality and manufacturing efficiency. This has contributed to the increase in general and administrative expenses of 131% quarter over quarter. Excluding operational and admin personnel at Wearable Technologies and the impact of CEWS, the increase was 78% in the fourth quarter compared to the fourth quarter of 2020. Also included in the overall increase is the operations team in France, as well as the initial hires for operations in Houston. Our people services and enterprise IT functions have also expanded to serve our increased headcount, which nearly doubled during the year. We've also increased our finance team to meet the additional reporting requirements associated with being listed on the TSX.

As a final note on expenses, we have invested CAD 4.3 million overall in Wearable Technologies since acquisition as we integrate their team into our operations and move them forward at pace for their go-to-market strategy. The company continues to maintain a strong balance sheet with no debt and a solid working capital position of CAD 62 million, including cash and short-term investments of CAD 54.5 million. This follows our capital raise in October, which brought net proceeds of CAD 37.6 million. Our cash position reflects our CAD 1 million investment in additional surface mount technology equipment. This will allow us to double our production capacity in the upcoming year. This was largely prepaid at the end of the fiscal year and was fully installed and operational in early November.

Capital expenditures and lease payments for the quarter also impacted cash by CAD 2.2 million, primarily due to revenue-generating cartridges sold during the quarter. Our inventory totals CAD 12.7 million at October 31, 2021, compared to CAD 13.6 million at the end of our third quarter and CAD 10.8 million at the prior year-end. Of this total, materials parts inventory represented CAD 7.2 million and finished in package units CAD 5.5 million. During the quarter, our inventory levels were drawn down to deliver our product sales in the period and then fully replenished to ensure proactive management of material levels considering current global supply chain challenges and to be able to supply anticipated future orders.

The impact to our cash in the quarter was CAD 8.4 million as we renewed our inventory during the quarter and delivered a record number of devices to meet demand. With the onboarding of our new CMO and CTO during the year, we have ended several large external contract arrangements for marketing, public relations, and product development consulting services and brought these in-house through the expansion of our internal teams in these areas, with CAD 2 million in final payments for these services reflected in the year-end cash outflows. Blackline provides the option to our customers to purchase outright devices or to lease through our G7 lease program. With this customer decision affecting the timing of our cash inflows associated with that sale.

We have expanded the number of customers opting for finance leases with a total of CAD 18.9 million in future contracted cash flows at October 31, 2021, an increase from CAD 7.2 million at the prior year-end. These finance leases positively impact our immediate product revenues and service revenues over time, but negatively impact the timing of associated cash inflows to Blackline. Generally, it takes 1.5-2 years for a finance lease contract to catch up to a purchase agreement with service in terms of the cash flows. During the year ended October 31, 2021, we added 100 new leases with a total contract value of over CAD 16 million.

This factored together with us working with certain customers to accommodate payment terms as they face further waves of COVID-19, saw a build of CAD 10.1 million in our total accounts receivable balance for purchased outright and lease sales at the current year-end compared to the prior year-end. Blackline Safety has continued to proactively deliver its Invest to Grow strategy while maintaining prudent management of working capital and associated cash flows. I would like to take this opportunity to announce that our 2021 Environmental, Social, and Governance Report will be published on February 17th. As we have grown operationally and financially over the last year, we recognize that we have a duty to continue to improve our impact on our environment, people, communities, investors, customers, and partners.

ESG will always be core to what we do as we save lives and get people home safely, and in doing so, enhance our customers' own ESG goals. I will hand it back to Cody to discuss our outlook and to provide closing remarks. Cody?

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Thank you, Shane. Looking back, 2021 was a transformational year for Blackline as we executed on our Invest to Grow strategy. We are proud to have achieved 19 consecutive quarters of year-over-year quarterly revenue growth. However, our revenue growth was only part of that story. We nearly doubled our headcount during the year as we continued to expand our sales channels and accelerate our product roadmap. As part of these additions, we grew and realigned our leadership team with the appointment of two excellent new executives, Christine Gillies as Chief Marketing Officer, and Brian Sweeney as Chief Technology Officer, who have brought deep experience in high-growth SaaS, software as a service enterprises, and have already made great contributions. On top of this, we added two new directors to our board, Cheemin Bo-Linn and Barbara Holzapfel, who have also extensive experience leading technology businesses.

2021 also saw Blackline secure access to a CAD 15 million financing facility supported by our recurring revenue. In June, we graduated to the Toronto Stock Exchange and became one of Alberta's largest publicly listed companies in the technology sector. At the end of the fiscal year in October, we completed a bought deal financing, adding net proceeds of nearly CAD 38 million to an already strong debt-free balance sheet. We also completed the first acquisition in the company's history, and we are excited about our future entry into the light industrial construction markets with the G5, which will be the first device to be connected to bring connected safety to those industries. Throughout the year, we secured new facilities in France, Houston, and Dubai, further extending our global reach.

Our business is a global one, and we affirmed our commitment to the environment and our communities and all of our stakeholders in our first ever ESG report. Recently, we were proud to be announced among Deloitte's Enterprise Fast 15 as the ninth fastest growing enterprise company in Canada, with 230% revenue growth over the last 3 years. It's remarkable to look back on these accomplishments, and I would like to acknowledge all the hardworking people at Blackline that have made them possible. As impressive as these accomplishments are, Blackline will not rest on its laurels as we seek to transform industrial workplaces through connected worker technologies. 2022 will see the launch of G6 to the compliance focused market, opening Blackline's connected offering to hundreds of thousands more industrial workers. This monitor will be the first connected product designed specifically for this space.

We see G6 as a true disruptor to the unconnected legacy products that currently dominate this market. In 2023, we will introduce our new flagship product, the G8, which will provide enhanced data and monitoring capabilities, particularly for site supervisor and remote service personnel. The G8 will enable workflow management software to help coordinate the work done by distributed field technicians while enhancing workplace safety for world-class enterprise industrial operators. In addition, G8 will drive a suite of services expanding Blackline's offering to our customers in markets ranging from industrial maintenance to high value construction to service technicians in utilities markets globally. G8 will focus on making industrial workforces more productive while saving money and keeping work on schedule for customers. 2023 will also see us launch our first product under the WTL brand, the G5.

This will allow us to begin to realize returns on the investments here as we enter the global construction, rail, ports, and light industrial markets. The G5 will ship with customer access to predefined productivity enhancing reports and upsell access to additional services that provide money saving insights to customers, taking it beyond the pure safety value proposition. In addition to the significant investments we made throughout 2021 in our product development team and its roadmap, we have grown our sales and marketing team globally and our infrastructure to support our growth and our customers. Our Invest to Grow approach has now begun to pay significant dividends, and we see the opportunity to leverage the investments we've made across the business as we accelerate our growth trajectory through 2022 and into 2023 toward the next phase of Blackline as the leading provider of connected worker safety solutions.

Thank you to everyone for your attention today and your support for Blackline Safety. I'll leave it there, and we'll turn the call over to the operator and open it up for questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To join the question queue, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. You will hear a tone acknowledging your request. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing any keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. We will pause for a moment as callers join the queue. Our first question comes from Amr Ezzat of Echelon Partners. Please go ahead.

Amr Ezzat
Managing Director for Technology and Special Situations Research, Echelon Partners

Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions and very impressive growth. Probably very hard to quantify, but maybe you could take a shot at it. Can you give us a sense of how much of your product growth is due to pent-up demand from previous quarters? You guys mentioned that some growth is due to your ability to regain access to customer sites and obviously the procurement processes recommencing for clients. Just looking to get a sense of what you guys would deem as one-off sales related to previous quarters.

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Really, even if we're talking about the Q4 sales pipeline, I'd say everything within the pipeline was, you know, something that we've been, you know, working towards building on over the past period of time. Certainly the access to customer sites, you know, in Europe and in the United States started more like a number of months ago. So that's what's been helping drive that, you know, that velocity. Plus also just the entry into new market spaces. You know, you saw that with the water, wastewater in Europe, where having, you know, the one of the first business in that space, you know, it becomes easier and easier to win more within that. I think we're going to see the same in utilities within the North American market.

Amr Ezzat
Managing Director for Technology and Special Situations Research, Echelon Partners

Okay. You know, like, there's obvious seasonality in your numbers with Q4 usually being, like, the very strong quarter. My sense from your answer is, you feel that you could sort of deliver on a strong Q4 like that again and exceed it. Is that a fair statement?

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Certainly in Q4. I mean, to your point, seasonality is definitely part of our business. Q1 is always the weakest quarter for the year. You know, it winds up being with our October year-end, Q1 winds up being during the holiday Christmas period, et cetera. But as we look forward to, you know, the growth during this year, we've had no doubt that Q4 will distinctly outstrip the current Q4 we just posted.

Amr Ezzat
Managing Director for Technology and Special Situations Research, Echelon Partners

That's great to hear. Okay, maybe one for Shane. On your gross margins for the products, it's actually improved from the last like few quarters despite the tapering off of CEWS and the supply chain issues that you spoke to. I'm just wondering how should we think about your gross margins on the product side for the new fiscal year? You know, like we're seeing like inflation in input costs. Are you guys able to pass that on to customers?

Shane Grennan
CFO, Blackline Safety

Thanks, Amr. Yeah, we concluded with our product margin at 30% range for Q4 2021. As we look forward to fiscal 2022, we see that level being maintained through that period, noting that there is an inflationary pressures through the period, but that would be reasonable through the period.

Amr Ezzat
Managing Director for Technology and Special Situations Research, Echelon Partners

Okay. Maybe you could speak like in broad terms on your manufacturing capacity. You had that PR recently, Shane, you spoke to your new SMT and increased capacity. How do we think about your maximum manufacturing capacity? Like, can you maybe give us like utilization rates and what that sort of translates into potential sales?

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Really, it's Cody here, Amr . Our intent is to ensure that the manufacturing capacity here obviously meets our demand. We're looking to be able to produce more than double what we produced in volume in Q4 as we go through this year as far as the capacity level. The investments in the surface mount are sort of the core to that because we build all of our own board-level product here. But it's also investments in quality, you know, particularly as we hit volume products like the G6. It really varies a lot on the mix of the kind of product we have, whether it's EXO, which is a bit more labor-intensive, but a higher dollar volume product. G7's range, depending on what the sensor mix within them.

The G6 will be a very light manufacturing impact. In other words, higher volume product, lower overall manufacturing timelines per device. You know, we're comfortable with where we're at right now with the manufacturing level. You know, we also have capacity to add shifts here as well too, so we really don't see that as a constraint to growth. It's one that our teams are working very hard to make sure is not a constraint on our growth.

Amr Ezzat
Managing Director for Technology and Special Situations Research, Echelon Partners

Fantastic. Congrats again. I'll pass it on.

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Thanks very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from Doug Taylor of Canaccord. Please go ahead.

Doug Taylor
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Canaccord

Yeah, thanks, good morning, and congrats on a nice close to the fiscal year. A couple of exciting new product line extensions that you've mentioned here, I'd like to ask some questions about. You know, first, the G6, you're very specific now with your timetable for launch there. So I wonder if you'd just talk about what the remaining hurdles are development-wise, regulatory or anything like that, are to complete there to get that product ready for launch so we can get some, you know, additional confidence in that timetable is gonna remain, you know, static.

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Yeah. As you point out, Doug, we're talking about a July launch for the product. Really, that means volume. You know, July, we'll get the product into customers' hands. We'll need a month or two of customers utilizing the product to start seeing the volume demands build. It's a Q4 story for us as far as revenue for the year. Challenges, certainly, they're always there in things like approvals. We feel we're well in hand with that. That's often one of the biggest difficulties in our product range, given the intrinsic safety nature of what we're doing. But again, on the G6, we feel we have that well in hand. Technology-wise, we're far down the path. The biggest risks realistically on the G6 are supply chain. It's a volume product.

You know, we can't be- We need to be able to have a supply chain that will, you know, cover tens of thousands of devices, not thousands or hundreds in the case of the G7 or the EXOs. That's something that we feel we have well in hand. If there's any risks within the whole base, I would say the core risk is supply chain for us, but we think we are managing that well. You will see some inventory build with that as we bring parts in and materials to ensure that the G6 is ready to launch on time.

Doug Taylor
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Canaccord

Okay. Shifting to, you know, wearable technology, which I get. So now the G5, can you know, spend a little time? It seems to be taking shape here. Can you spend a little time talking to, you know, the market for that, you know, the competitive set, and perhaps maybe, you know, the envisioned business model for those initial products that are gonna come out of that acquisition?

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Yeah, sure. Like if you think, I mean, I like to think about wearables in the best way to think about, you know, workers in the kinds of spaces we're talking about, whether it be construction, ports, railroads, are good markets. They're all wearing a safety vest. This is a device that gets attached into that vest. We sort of changed the, we've changed the design and structure of the devices. We're beginning to get closer to deciding how to commercialize that. A lot of the work we're doing right now is getting an understanding, qualifying the market space, ensuring we're delivering the right product, when we bring that out in 2023. It's really more of a productivity and workforce maintenance kind of product than it is a safety product. It's definitely got the core safety elements.

If you think about the majority of the applications, it's really going to be around the data and the software that drive the device and bring those value adds to the customer base. Construction sites are looking to be more efficient and effective, same with railroad ports, all those kinds of places. You're talking about large volume applications. You know, business model, very similar to everything we're talking about. From a technology standpoint, aside from the form factor, you're talking about technology very similar to the G6, but not including the gas detection as a standard. From the context of the business model, again, pretty similar base. It's a service and really primarily a service-driven product. The hardware will just be sold as part of that service plan into that space.

Again, higher volume even than the G6 market, but a new market space. One thing I'd qualify in the whole base with G5 compared to G6. G6, we're replacing a legacy market, a legacy product, you know, that's almost 20 years old that we believe, you know, we will be a true disruptor in an already established market. In the G5, it's this will be new value to the kinds of customers you're going into. Although we see a good, strong introduction in 2023, I think you have to look at a different kind of a ramp up, based on the fact that it's a new product in that market space. No direct competition, realistically.

Doug Taylor
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Canaccord

Do you expect for the G5, the current, you know, CAD 1.5 million per quarter investment in bringing that product to market to be sufficient, you know, or a good level to model through 2022 until you get to that point?

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Yeah, I think it'll shift. I mean, it'll shift. If anything, there'll be some, you know, it won't be increasing from that, Doug, I would say. We're primarily focusing on the development side with some of the. Now with the alignment better, as we've begun the integration with the alignment between the companies, more of that load is being shared between the businesses. Would see it being pretty similar to what it is now until such time as 2023 when the product pops out.

Doug Taylor
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Canaccord

Okay. Now one last question or more of a clarification for me. The CAD 7.8 million large transaction you announced in November, I wonder if you'll just remind us, you know, to what degree, you know, some of that was recognized in Q4 or is going to be recognized in the upcoming quarters. That'd be helpful. Thank you.

Shane Grennan
CFO, Blackline Safety

Hi, Doug. The majority of the product was realized during the quarter, and the associated service revenues will be realized over the term of the contract.

Doug Taylor
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Canaccord

For deals that have been announced since quarter end, it's the CAD 4.3 million that you'd recently announced that is still product revenue, which is still to be recognized outside of your, you know, regular cadence of new customer signings. Is that correct?

Shane Grennan
CFO, Blackline Safety

Yeah. That CAD 4.3 million isn't relating to fiscal 2021, Doug.

Doug Taylor
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Canaccord

Right.

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Again, it's a hardware-

Doug Taylor
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Canaccord

Okay.

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

-and service. So-

Shane Grennan
CFO, Blackline Safety

Yeah.

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

You know, depending on the particular deal, the hardware can be 20%-30% of the order. In the case of the one from Q4, it was a very heavily service weighted order, so you'll see a lot of service come kicking in. One thing I'd point out with that too, Doug, is that large deals like that, typically, we're talking about, you know, 3-5 months before we're fully deployed, and that's when the service starts to kick in. You'll see maybe some the real bump up in service on that order you'll see in Q2, not in Q1.

Doug Taylor
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Canaccord

Okay. Thank you very much. I'll pass the line.

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Thanks very much.

Shane Grennan
CFO, Blackline Safety

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Chris Thompson of PI Financial. Please go ahead.

Chris Thompson
Head of Research, PI Financial

Oh, great. Thanks, guys. Fantastic quarter, and Shane, really good disclosure in the MD&A. Thank you for that. Just circling back to the G6 product launch, do you guys have a backlog of orders right now? How should we think about, you know, the average order size in terms of units? And Cody, you mentioned hundreds of thousands of, you know, units as an opportunity. You know, what do you think the annual kind of volume opportunity is for you guys?

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Well, to answer that without giving forward-looking information as to how many units we think we're gonna sell. Chris, I would say first to start off with, you know, we won't have a backlog of orders at this point in time. We won't start building a backlog until we can get demos and devices in front of customers, which is still a few months away. We don't really wanna get into the market until we have a product to market. The G6 market though itself, I'll just make a couple points on that. It's a very different market than the G7. G6 tends to be large volumes.

Most of our customers, if you look at a large facility site, when you're talking about a multi-gas, they may have three or four suppliers of multi-gas. But when you talk about the single gas, what's called disposable market, they'll only have one supplier. The other thing to keep in mind in this market is it's a market that turns over every 2 years. All those devices get replaced every 2 years. Typical four-gas, like a G7, it's 4-5 years. There's a higher frequency of turnover, so there's easier access to the market than there is in the four-gas market space, and they're larger single-unit order batch sizes. You know, I point out this is a market we know really well. This is a market BW Technologies, my old business, really built.

You know, we understand the value adds we can bring with the G6, so we see a pretty high uptake at the beginning stages. You know, to put it in perspective, the market on an annual basis is in the range of, you know, close to 1 million devices per year are sold in this space. You know, even a reasonable penetration into the market is a pretty big impact for Blackline.

Chris Thompson
Head of Research, PI Financial

Okay. That's exceptional color. Thank you. Just circling back again to the contracts you've announced. You know, in fiscal Q4, there's a lot of big ones. Q1, I think I've seen, you know, the one CAD 4.3 million. Can you just remind us on any given quarter the typical amount of your product revenue that would be, you know, product refresh from your existing customer base from, you know, expansion of headcount, et cetera, versus new wins, just so we can kinda get a sense of your cadence of press releases and how we should think about, you know, are they gonna miss or beat, you know, Q1 consensus? Because I know it's tough for us to model the product component of your business.

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Sure. I'd say firstly, like, really, if you wanna say refresh, it's a very small portion of our business. The G7's only really been out for 4 years now going on, so it's at that 4-year cycle, you start to see a refresh in the product. That's really not a significant base. A lot of our sales structure comes through expansion within a customer, but it's typically not what you're saying. Well, I wouldn't think about this as an expansion of a site adding more personnel. It's a particular customer with multiple sites, and we're now taking one site, then the next site, then the next site. That's where sort of our internal customer growth comes from.

When we talk about service growth within our current customer base, that's really not because they're adding more, devices for a particular site or area. It's because we're taking on more sites and more areas from that particular customer. Q1's always a light cadence. When you talk about those large major orders, you know, November, December, January, these are not times, you know, December, everybody's away for holidays. January, the first thing they're doing is not necessarily buying their connected worker solutions, so typically a light quarter. If you look at, you know, it's. I won't say there's, you know, it is a little lumpy. Q4 was definitely heavily weighted in some of the larger orders. You saw that in the cadence of the press releases.

On a typical basis, you know, those orders should make up, you know, 20%-25%, 20%-30% of the business, shall we say.

Chris Thompson
Head of Research, PI Financial

The large orders should be 20%-30%.

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

I mean, again, saying typical is a little hard when you're growing at our rate.

Chris Thompson
Head of Research, PI Financial

Got it.

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

You have some definite variability in there. You know, the base business. One thing that's really been, I would say from my standpoint, very, very positive to see is, when we had a much smaller sales force, we were very dependent on those large orders. Miss one large order, and you'd, you know, miss significantly. Now that we've expanded our sales regional sales managers, expanded our geographic markets, you're starting to see a lot more of that mid-sized business come in. We don't press release any of that, but that's actually some of the nicest business because that's growth is the real fuel, you know, to get us to where we want to be.

Chris Thompson
Head of Research, PI Financial

Okay. That's really helpful. I got lots more, but I'll hop back into the queue. Thanks so much.

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Thanks very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from David Kwan of TD Securities. Please go ahead.

David Kwan
Director and Equity Research Analyst for Technology and Healthcare, TD Securities

Hey, guys. Obviously a very strong quarter from a revenue standpoint. I was curious if you could talk about what the shape of the pipeline looks like right now, given the relative flurry of large deals you had announced over the last 6 months.

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Sure, David. I'll chat to that. You know, I will say looking at our pipeline in North America, and in Europe. Well, let's touch on three different areas, North America, Europe, and what we call the rest of the world. North America, the pipeline is stronger than it's ever been, and that's, I think, indicative of the fact that particularly in the U.S., we were able to get people back in front of customers and start things moving forward again. So we have a, you know, when we look at our full year here, we have a very, very strong pipeline in North America, strong pipeline as well in Europe particularly. Europe in the past has been a bit more of a U.K. story. Now it's becoming more of a mainland Europe story, and that's really positive.

That was part of the reason of putting things like the location in France there to better support that growth in that space. An interesting one, even though it's very small numbers right now, is the rest of the world, though. You know, we put people in there really just pre-COVID, and that was pretty difficult, mostly in areas that were exceptionally difficult to actually see sales within. But I'll point to, you know, you'll start seeing some real significant traction in those spaces. We have some excellent people. Each of those markets and areas has different hurdles you have to get over between regulatory, between telecommunications and others, and it's taken us a couple years, but we're really at a point now where I think you can start to see some actual significant growth and contributions from that rest of the world market.

David Kwan
Director and Equity Research Analyst for Technology and Healthcare, TD Securities

That's helpful. Thanks, Cody. Curious with Omicron, to what extent you might be seeing that impacting your business. You know, are you seeing sales cycles slowing in certain areas, and to what extent that might be impacting your supply chains?

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Yeah, I think there's a series of impacts. It certainly impacted some of the different markets we're in. Again, somewhat geographically based. The U.S., not so much. Europe more so, the rest of the world really mixed. I think that the other side it's impacted, which is something Shane commented on and we're working towards is the your finance side, your receivable side can be lengthened out because you've got a lot of companies that are, you know. It's remarkable how many companies you call up and half the people you're normally dealing with are now out for whatever period of time. That's the same on the supply chain a little as well.

The supply chain is one of those undercurrent kinds of things that people, you know, everybody talks about, but understanding the real scope of it, we have an exceptionally strong team here, and we've leveraged our very strong balance sheet to make sure that doesn't cause us problems that will, you know, keep us from getting the product out the door. If you look at Q4, we had all those problems in Q4 in supply chain, and when you go through the different particular materials and elements, you know, the team there rose to the challenge and shipped more hardware and more individual devices and more dollar value than, you know, by far and away than we ever have. We're able to replenish the materials so that we're able to keep the cadence up going forward.

You know, it's been one of those things where everybody is always tired of talking about at the end of the day. I do think the, you know, from my view, one of the points we're trying to make in the call today is that Q4 really for us signals that, you know, that entry into that new normal, where when we have an Omicron or other things like that coming up, we do really see that they're not going to be nearly as disruptive as this has been in the past.

David Kwan
Director and Equity Research Analyst for Technology and Healthcare, TD Securities

That's great. Last question for me, maybe a little bit more for Shane. The sales and marketing expenses, big jump there, some of that is somewhat, I guess, non-recurring, at least from a quarter-to-quarter basis with NFC. I think you'd mentioned was about close to CAD 700,000 there. How should we be looking at this expense line going forward?

Shane Grennan
CFO, Blackline Safety

Thank you, David. As you note, Q4 did have some one-time items there. We talked about the bad debts and some of those that were impeded by COVID. There'll be more one-time items. Going forward, the trajectory, you know, normalizing for those items that we highlighted, we'd be looking in the range as a proportion of revenues. We were 51% for the fourth quarter. We would see that declining right through the period of fiscal 2022 into more 30% mid- to low- range, David.

David Kwan
Director and Equity Research Analyst for Technology and Healthcare, TD Securities

Okay, that's helpful. Thanks, Shane.

Shane Grennan
CFO, Blackline Safety

Of course.

Operator

Our next question comes from Bryan Fast of Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Bryan Fast
Equity Research Analyst, Raymond James

Thanks. Good morning, guys. I just wanna circle back on the large contract win with the U.S. utility announced in November. Is there any parallels you could draw between your success with the U.K. water and wastewater space and what you see in the U.S. utility space?

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

You know, really very much so. Bryan, it's Cody here. What I'll point to is each of these markets is unique in how they handle safety, large contracts, all these different types of basis. If you look at the water, wastewater, it's the impact of the first win there. If you think about the first win in the water, wastewater, that would be the one where we'd spent the most time learning the business, understanding how to market to it, understanding what their particular value proposition was. Every one after that has been cleaner, easier, lighter to do because we better understand and we're better focused on that business. Same in the U.S. utility space.

It's a very complicated, different kind of business. It's about things like your rate case for what your charges are backed into the utility exchange itself. It's about understanding what their real value propositions are between the, you know, the workforce management sides of our business, the communication sides, and the safety sides. I think that a first major win in some industry like that just positions our. It's something we learn from very well. It's something we focus the teams on very well, focus the marketing, focus the sales on. We see that, you know, I look at that market as the similar opportunity, larger scale in the water, wastewater. You know, there's more of them. It's a bigger overall market than that space.

Over long term, it's certainly a market we intend to be, you know. We believe we can have a similar success to what we've had in the water and wastewater markets in the U.K.

Bryan Fast
Equity Research Analyst, Raymond James

Okay, great. That's good color. This one's for Shane. How should we think about the cadence of product development costs over the next year?

Shane Grennan
CFO, Blackline Safety

Thanks, Bryan. Looking at Q4 as a proportion of overall revenue, we were at that 24% level. I would say through fiscal 2022, I would p robably have that at a higher point at the start of the year for some of the developmental work that we'll be doing on the G6, as Cody outlined.

Probably would have that tapering through the remainder of the period to a similar or potentially slightly lower number at the end of the fiscal year compared to what we were for Q4 2021.

Bryan Fast
Equity Research Analyst, Raymond James

Okay. That's it for me. Thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from John Shao of National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.

John Shao
Equity Research Analyst for the Technology Sector, National Bank Financial

Hey, guys. Congratulations on strong quarter. I think in your press release you mentioned the next generation of Blackline Live. I'm just curious, compared to the current generation, what improvements should we expect from the new release?

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Really, one of the things you'll see with Bryan now running our research and development group is a more regular cadence of release both on hardware and on software. With hardware we're looking at now doing 3x per year release of upgrades to things like the G7 and the current product base. When you talk about the software side, Blackline Live is really what we call our portal. It's the customer access point. It's things like single sign-on to other feature sets that are built around GDPR and Sa- and security are part of the initial things you're seeing right now come out on our Blackline Live.

The biggest changes you're going to see over time are the ability to manage more data, particularly other people's data, so that we can actually bring more value at that, you know, business efficiency and process end. I wouldn't look at it as a single new element coming out, but just as a much more rapid evolution of the Blackline systems.

John Shao
Equity Research Analyst for the Technology Sector, National Bank Financial

Okay, thanks. My other question is, I think you also mentioned that the company entering into the product rental market. I'm just curious about the market opportunity in that market and also the gross margins like relative to other services revenue you have.

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Sure. Talking about the market opportunity, rental, we started this off in the North American space, and you can see there was I mean, we had massive growth in this last period of time. Again, I'll point to it as a cyclical business. Our Q4 and our Q2 will be our strongest rental quarters typically. It's a market we think has a lot of value to it. One is these are typically construction, plant turnarounds, these kinds of things. It gets us onto sites that we haven't been onto before, gets customers exposed to our product. It's driven primarily right now by the area monitors, but the G7s will come along with that in many of the applications.

Margins are for the rental contracts are more similar to our service margins than to our hardware margins. They're looking at a very different kind of a business. We're modeling it here that we'll probably see a rental device in field for about 50%-60% of the year. At the price points it's at, if you look at that over a 3-year period life of it, you'll be looking at a similar kind of a margin to what we see on our service. Maybe a little bit lower, but not dramatically.

John Shao
Equity Research Analyst for the Technology Sector, National Bank Financial

Okay, thanks. My last question is, maybe this is more to Shane. Just trying to understand the 30% gross margin for the hardware this quarter. How much of this 30% is actually coming from the higher mix towards G7 EXO, and how much of it is coming from operating leverage?

Shane Grennan
CFO, Blackline Safety

It's really a combination of both. I would say, John, the EXO certainly helps. It's a higher margin point than the G7 suite of devices. That certainly contributes to that. Also the large volume that happened in the fourth quarter is certainly a large contributor to that as well. Really, you know, the combination of the two is really the growth from what was a lower point of 13% back in Q3 to a more stable 30% in the fourth quarter.

John Shao
Equity Research Analyst for the Technology Sector, National Bank Financial

Okay, thanks. I'll pass along.

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Thanks, John.

Operator

Our next question comes from Raj Sharma of B. Riley. Please go ahead.

Raj Sharma
Senior Analyst, B. Riley

Hi. Good morning, guys. Great results. I just have a couple questions. On this, the SG&A, I wanted to just kind of understand, you know, it's gone from CAD 6.6 million first quarter, the SG&A expenses to now CAD 14 million a quarter, and I understand. I understand there's a huge increase, a substantial increase in headcount and in other areas, also an increase in commissions. How do we look at that going forward? I know that, Shane, you mentioned, as a percentage, it goes to the low 30s. Is that, as a dollar figure, do you expect to have more headcount increases, or are you kind of should the costs here stabilize?

Is the low 30s percent a result of higher increases, I mean, increasing sales, or your number, you know, your SG&A expense sort of staying flat? Can you give some color on that and help us model that going forward?

Shane Grennan
CFO, Blackline Safety

Raj, Shane here. Raj, maybe I'll take that in two parts because I know, you know, for public disclosure, we do split the lines into two items. I think where I spoke earlier in relation to the sales marketing and the components of that and certainly an increase in revenues through fiscal 2022 is a factor in that percentage declining through the period. When it came to the question in relation to headcount, as Cody mentioned earlier, we did almost double our headcounts through the year. There will be additional headcount coming on earlier in the fiscal year, but certainly at a greatly lower pace than we had previously.

As a component of revenue, our G&A finished Q4 at 22% of overall revenue. For our view of going through 2022, earlier in the year and as we bring on more individuals as part of our overall scaling, our operational management focus, that number as a proportion of revenue, noting the cadence of revenue in the earlier part of the year also, maybe at a higher point than the Q4 was, but that normalizing and decreasing through the remainder of fiscal 2022, for G&A specifically.

Raj Sharma
Senior Analyst, B. Riley

Got it. Just, I have a question. I wanted to understand the recent deal that you just announced for CAD 4.3 million. It seemed to have a lot more bridges than we would normally have expected. Is that sort of a one-off type of a situation where you had one-on-one for the number of bridges to the devices? Obviously, it increased and also there's a service component to those bridges. Is that a one-off sort of a project, or has something changed about the dynamic of the attach rates for service contracts and for bridges?

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Sure, Raj. Cody here. I'll take that. Just this particular type of market, this is more of what you'd look at as a lone worker market. This is a particular customer that has whole large number of field service people, and in their case, it's a one-to-one relationship with their vehicle kind of thing. It's one bridge, one device. We have other customers like that a lot in the sort of field services market space. It's a, it's a thing, it's one of the market applications for the bridge type product, I'd say. Like, to your point, typically with our bridges, we're seeing you see three to four people connected on it. It's sort of smaller teams working around the bridge device.

There are applications out there, particularly in North America, that are solely focused one-to-one, and that's really where this one is. It helps make it, as you say, a nice order because there's a nice service component with the bridge. It's not unique in the base. It's just one aspect of that overall market.

Raj Sharma
Senior Analyst, B. Riley

Right. Thank you. Once the G6 launches in July, there are a couple of things that are happening here, I sense. One is that there were more blended sales of products, and now there are outright purchases. Is that right? How does the dynamic change with respect to, you know, the change in how it's purchased or it's leased? Also, would that change with the G6?

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Yeah, it's really a bit of a mix. I mean, as Shane mentioned, I think before we offer customers a different multitude of ways to purchase our product. We've seen a little more pickup in the pure lease-like kind of application, which as you mentioned, is great. The leases are great. They're a 4-year contract. They're net retention, good margin, but you know, they impact cash flow up front. We've got a purchase model where customers can purchase the device and the service up front. The blend is probably really not something we can predict exceptionally well. It really depends on the particular customer. Some markets like to pay capital up front, some markets like to spread it over a longer period of time.

The G6 will be a bit more like the lease kind of product, that where you're just seeing a monthly rate of revenue for the G6, with the hardware blended into it over a longer period of time, in most cases.

Raj Sharma
Senior Analyst, B. Riley

Got it. Thank you again for answering my questions. I'll take this offline. Great results. Thank you.

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Thanks very much, Raj.

Operator

Our next question comes from Gabriel Leung of Beacon Securities. Please go ahead.

Gabriel Leung
Analyst, Beacon Securities

Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. I just have one follow-up for you, Cody. Just focusing on the G6 for a second because I think that's gonna be an important growth catalyst this year. You know, based on your early discussions with the prospects, you know, how are you thinking of pricing the G6 relative to the sort of the incumbent products out there? I think single gas detector is what, $150. I'm just wondering how you're thinking of pricing. Number two, do you expect it will be less of a missionary sale vis-a-vis the G7 just because of the sort of the lower price points I expect on the G6? Which will by the way ensure the shorter sales cycle, perhaps.

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Yeah, for sure. I mean, I'll start with the sales cycle, and definitely it's, you know, with what we're doing on the G6, we're really, again, in my mind, we're, you know, we're disrupting a market that's pretty stale and old. I do see the velocity, like there isn't as much missionary work here at all. The G7, you're selling a lot of additional value adds and services and things like this. It's new. How do I think about that? What does that really mean? For the G6, it's really just a better product. There's obvious value adds from the second you take a look at it. They're both. We don't, you know, from a competitive nature, there's certain things we don't want to get into in too much detail.

At the end of the day, one thing I keep in mind on the price point is you're talking about a 2-year product. You're right, CAD 150, CAD 175, something like that, but it's thrown out every 2 years. The G6 is a 4-year product. So you're now talking simply the device itself is, you know, you're competing against, it's CAD 300 and change. If you look at it over that period of time, the G6 is gonna be about a CAD 450 product to the customer over that period of time. Call it about a CAD 10 a month, you know, number.

There's other aspects in that that are. They're, you know, we've talked about before with the G7. You're saving costs on your compliance costs as far as understanding if people are using the device, if they're bumped, if they're tested. You're saving costs actually on deployment of the device. In actual fact, the way we've designed the G6, you're actually saving costs on the gas you use to bump test and operate the devices. We believe the value proposition is really clear. Customers know it very well. Again, the nice thing about it when you talk about cadence is that you're typically more like 1,000, like 2,000 devices when you're talking about a G6 order.

Also, this is a product that has the opportunity to sell through channels such as more of the catalog houses, larger safety houses, so we can broaden our distribution very rapidly. You can't do that with a complicated product like a G7, but with a G6, you can. You're right. We look at this as a big impact. You know, we'll have it out only for a quarter in this year, but it, the cadence moving into 2023, I think, will be exceptionally strong.

Gabriel Leung
Analyst, Beacon Securities

Hey, Cody, just to clarify, that CAD 450 product cost over the life, does that include the service plan?

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Yeah. If you think about it, CAD 200 for the product, CAD 200 and some odd dollars, CAD 250 for the service, something like that would be a way to look at it. Really, for most of the customers, we like this one, we will be more, it, again, we'll offer a variety of ways you can purchase it, but basically, you'll be telling people it's CAD 10 a month.

Gabriel Leung
Analyst, Beacon Securities

Gotcha. That does the feedback. Thank you very much.

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Thanks very much. All right. Well.

Operator

This concludes the question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Slater for any closing remarks.

Cody Slater
CEO and Chair, Blackline Safety

Well, thank you, everyone, for your questions and for your attention today and participation. We wish you all a good rest of the day.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day.

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