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ASM 2012

May 10, 2012

Frank McKenna
Chairman, Brookfield Asset Management

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. It is now 10:30 A.M. and time to begin the annual and special meeting of shareholders of Brookfield Asset Management Inc. My name is Frank McKenna, and I'm a recovering politician. No, actually that's wrong. My name is Frank McKenna, and I'm Chairman of this corporation, and it's my pleasure to chair today's meeting. On behalf of the board and my colleagues, I want to extend a warm welcome to everyone here today. We know you had choices to make, and you chose to be with us. Thank you for that. We have many as well joining us by way of webcast, and thank you for that. I will now call the meeting to order and ask Canadian Stock Transfer Company Inc. by its representatives, Tony Tacogna and Kay Harrison, to act as scrutineers.

I will also ask Brett Fox to act as Secretary to today's meeting. Now, it is my pleasure to introduce my colleagues who will be participating in today's meetings. Bruce Flatt, our President and Chief Executive Officer, Brian Lawson, our Chief Financial Officer. As outlined in our management information circular, there are five items of business to be considered today. First, to receive the consolidated financial statements of the corporation for the fiscal year ended December 31st, 2011. Second, to elect directors who will serve until the end of our next annual meeting of shareholders. Third, to appoint the external auditor and authorize the directors to set its remuneration. Fourth, to consider a resolution approving the adoption of a new management share option plan, and fifth, to consider an advisory resolution on the corporation's approach to executive compensation.

In connection with the business to be dealt with today, unless a shareholder or proxy holder demands a ballot, all voting will be conducted by a show of hands. In order to expedite the formal part of today's meetings, I've asked certain shareholders to move and second various resolutions. Although this procedure will assist in the handling of the formal matters, it's not intended to discourage anyone from speaking in reference to any resolution after it has been proposed and seconded. I'm advised that the notice calling this meeting and the management information circular were sent to voting shareholders in accordance with all applicable requirements. I've asked the Secretary to keep a copy of the notice and proof of mailing with the minutes of this meeting for legal purposes.

The minutes of last year's meeting of shareholders held on May 11th, 2011, are also available should any shareholder wish to review them. Based upon the scrutineer's preliminary report and attendance, the Secretary has confirmed that there is a quorum present. I therefore declare the meeting is properly constituted for the transaction of the business for which it has been called. Now turning to the first item of business, I will now table the corporation's 2011 annual report to shareholders, which includes the corporation's consolidated financial statements for the fiscal year ended December 31st, 2011, together with the external auditor's report. Copies of our annual report have been mailed to our shareholders who so requested and are also available here today. The second item of business at our meeting today is to elect directors who will serve until the end of our next annual meeting of shareholders.

Now my pleasure to introduce the 16 director nominees standing for election this year. To assist you in identifying your directors, their pictures will be shown on the screen as I read their names. The eight proposed nominees for election by holders of the corporation's Class A limited voting shares are Marcel Coutu, Maureen Kempston Darkes, Lance Freeman, Jack Mintz, Youssef Nasr, Jim Pattison, Diana Taylor, myself. The eight nominees for election by the holders of the corporation's Class B limited voting shares are Jack Cockwell, Trevor Eyton, Bruce Flatt, Jim Gray, Robert Harding, David Kerr, Philip Lind, and George Taylor. 15 of the 16 proposed nominees were elected at our last annual meeting in May 2011 and are standing for re-election today. Regretfully, one of our members, Wallace McCain, died after his election. We're deeply saddened by his loss.

We're also delighted to have Diana Taylor standing for election this year. Additional information on all 16 director nominees is set out in the management information circular, which was mailed to shareholders along with the notice of this meeting. The meeting is now open to receive nominations for the election of the proposed directors.

Speaker 4

Mr. Chairman, I nominate for election as directors the eight nominees for the Class A limited voting shareholders, eight nominees for the Class B limited voting shareholders named in the management information circular dated-

Frank McKenna
Chairman, Brookfield Asset Management

Thank you, Derek.

Speaker 4

Mr. Chairman, I second the motion.

Frank McKenna
Chairman, Brookfield Asset Management

Thank you, Catherine. Are there any further nominations? Are there any further nominations? Are there any further nominations? If not, I declare the nominations closed. As there are 16 directors to be elected and the same number of nominees, I now declare that those nominated have been duly elected directors of the corporation. Ladies and gentlemen, our directors are with us here today and are wearing name tags, and I hope you'll have an opportunity to meet and talk with them after the meeting over some light refreshments. The third item of formal business today is the appointment of the corporation's external auditor and authorizing the directors to set its remuneration. As stated in the management information circular, the audit committee of your board of directors has recommended to the shareholders that Deloitte & Touche LLP be reappointed as the corporation's external auditor.

It is now in order for someone to move the resolution.

Speaker 4

Chairman, I move that Deloitte & Touche LLP be appointed the external auditor of the corporation on next annual meeting, directors be authorized to set its remuneration.

Frank McKenna
Chairman, Brookfield Asset Management

Thank you, Catherine.

Speaker 4

Mr. Chairman, I second the motion.

Frank McKenna
Chairman, Brookfield Asset Management

Thank you, Derek. The resolution has been moved and seconded, the motion is now before the meeting for discussion. Adoption of this motion requires the favorable vote of a majority of the votes cast at the meeting by the holders of both the Class A limited voting shares and the Class B limited voting shares. Management has received proxies representing approximately 67% of the corporation's Class A limited voting shares and 100% of the Class B limited voting shares. These proxies direct me to vote over 99.6% of the Class A limited voting shares and all of the Class B limited voting shares in favor of the resolution. I will now call for the vote on the motion by a show of hands. All those in favor? Thank you. Against? I declare the motion carried. Turning to the next item of business.

Today, shareholders are being asked to consider a resolution to approve the adoption of a new management share option plan. The corporation's use of options to acquire Class A limited voting shares is an important component of its compensation arrangements. The corporation believes that this practice achieves alignment between management and shareholder interest and assists in attracting and retaining qualified and motivated senior executives and employees. In order for someone to move this resolution.

Speaker 4

Mr. Chairman, I move that the resolution to approve the adoption of a new management share option plan, as described in the Management Information Circular dated March 12, 2012.

Frank McKenna
Chairman, Brookfield Asset Management

Thank you, Derek.

Speaker 4

Mr. Chairman, I second the motion.

Frank McKenna
Chairman, Brookfield Asset Management

Thank you, Catherine. The resolution has been moved and seconded, and the motion is now before the meeting for discussion. Adoption of the motion requires the favorable vote of a majority of the votes cast at the meeting by the holders of both the Class A limited voting shares and the Class B limited voting shares. Management has received proxies representing approximately 65% of the corporation's Class A limited voting shares and 100% of the Class B limited voting shares. These proxies direct me to vote over 65.6% of the Class A limited voting shares and all of the Class B limited voting shares in favor of the resolution. I will now call for the vote on the motion by show of hands. All those in favor? Thank you. Against? I declare the motion carried.

The next item of business is the approval of the advisory resolution on the corporation's approach to executive compensation, known colloquially as say on pay. This is described in the Management Information Circular. The corporation has adopted an advisory resolution at this meeting as part of its ongoing efforts to both meet its objectives and ensure a high level of shareholder engagement. In order for the advisory resolution to be effective, the favorable vote of a majority of the votes cast at the meeting by the holders of both the Class A limited voting shares and Class B limited voting shares is required. Because this is an advisory vote, the results will not be binding upon the board. However, the board and management resources and compensation committee will take into account the results of the vote as appropriate when considering future compensation policies, procedures, and decisions.

In order for someone to move the resolution.

Speaker 4

Chairman, I move that the advisory resolution accepting the approach to executive compensation described in the Management Information Circular, March 12th, 2012, be approved.

Frank McKenna
Chairman, Brookfield Asset Management

Thank you, Catherine.

Speaker 4

Mr. Chairman, I second the motion.

Frank McKenna
Chairman, Brookfield Asset Management

Thank you, Derek. Adoption of the motion requires the favorable vote of a majority of the votes cast at the meeting by holders of both the Class A limited voting shares and Class B limited voting shares. Management has received proxies representing approximately 65% of the corporation's Class A limited voting shares and 100% of the Class B voting shares. These proxies direct me to vote over 98.6% of the Class A limited voting shares and all of the Class B limited voting shares in favor of the resolution. I will now call for the vote on the motion by show of hands. All those in favor? Thank you. Against? I declare the motion carried. Ladies and gentlemen, that completes the formal part of today's meeting, and we will now move to our management presentation. Bruce Flatt will begin today's presentation.

At the end of the management presentation, we will welcome any questions or comments that you might have. Please note that in responding to questions and in talking about our initiatives and our financial and operating performance, we may make forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to known and unknown risks, and future results may differ materially. For further information on known risk factors, I would encourage you to review our Management Discussion and Analysis in our annual report, which is available today at the registration desk or at our website. Bruce, to you.

Bruce Flatt
President and CEO, Brookfield Asset Management

Good morning, thank you. I'd reiterate what Frank said, which is to thank everyone online and people here for taking the time to listen to us. What we thought we'd do today is I'd just give a brief overview of what we've been doing in the company, and how we look today as an organization. Brian will talk a little bit about the financial results, afterwards, as Frank said, we'll take questions. We've been building, as most of you know, a global asset manager. Today we have about 100 offices around the world. There's 500 investment people and almost 25,000 operating employees around the world, which I think I say this every year, but it is one of the truly competitive advantages that we have, which is all the people that we have within the organization.

That does differentiate us from a lot of the other asset managers out there. In general, we're across the globe in a number of spots, but we're very focused in a few. We have four major places where we invest that are shown in here. The assets fit within our different businesses, which I'll talk about in a minute. Really, our primary objective has stayed the same as we've built the business over the past 10 and 20 years, and that's been to earn a 12%-15% compound annual return for you in the underlying value of the business on a per share basis. Our overall return, which Brian will describe to you in a minute, was 14% in 2011.

I'd say we met the numbers in a tough environment, and things should do better going forward, coming out of what we see as the global recession as it continues to evolve. The business model that we deploy is pretty simple, and sometimes for our shareholders, the methods that we have to finance ourselves are more time-consuming to understand. What we do is very simple from a basic level. We try to use our global reach to acquire some of the very best assets in the world, and I'll show some of them to you in a minute. We finance them on a very low risk basis, and that enables us to ensure that periods of like 2008, when you go through them, that the corporation doesn't have to be in any difficult circumstances.

I'd say that's been one of the hallmarks of the organization, and we continue with that. We try to use those 25,000 people in the operating businesses that we have to enhance the assets and build the businesses that we have. I'd say that, as I said earlier, that continues to give us a competitive advantage. Lastly, we continue to expand the capital that we have in the business. As opposed to issuing common equity out of the treasury of the company, we've been bringing institutional clients in as partners with us over the past 10 years. We continue to grow the business through the capital management from institutional partners. We differentiate ourselves, as I said, as owner operators of what we characterize as real assets. Today that word is somewhat in vogue, or infrastructure is somewhat in vogue.

The competitive advantage that we have is that we've been doing this a long time. The roots of this company started in Brazil. We owned the infrastructure of Brazil 100 years ago. It really has been something which is in the overall corporate structure of the company, and that gives us a tremendous advantage today when we're dealing with institutional clients and investment partners. If you look at what we actually own within the company today, it's a tremendous array of real assets. Firstly, we own almost 100 million sq ft of office properties. That's the World Financial Center you see. But we have many office buildings around the world, from London to Sydney to New York, Los Angeles, and here in Toronto and Calgary in Canada. We have a very high quality group of office assets.

As most of you know, we had a retail business which was on a smaller extent, but we add a major retail business to the portfolio two and a half years ago. We own some of the great retail centers across the U.S. today, which is 165 million sq ft of retail shopping malls in four different entities that we have, the largest one being General Growth Properties. What's listed on that slide is Ala Moana in Hawaii, which is one of the most incredible retail shopping malls in the world. Third, we own 170 hydro power plants. These hydro plants are among the most unique assets in the world. They're irreplaceable in nature. They generate cash, they have high margins. There just aren't any more of them being built other than on the exception.

We build one or two every once in a while, but very few spots in the world can you build these. These are truly an irreplaceable group of assets which we have in the company. We've been building a wind business. We started a couple of years ago after the distress in the market started. We've now built or purchased seven wind farms, most of those in the U.S., but a couple here in Ontario. We continue selectively to build our wind renewable business. In the infrastructure side, we own the largest metallurgical coal shipping facility in the world. It's an incredible picture, actually. It's on the northeast coast of Australia. It ships 20% of the seaborne metallurgical coal in the world.

It's truly, again, an irreplaceable asset, which is very attractive from a return perspective. We also own over 5,000 km of rail tracks in Western Australia. Again, to the business model that we have, we don't operate the trains. We don't operate the business. What we own is the tracks. Our business is to rent our tracks to operators who travel over the tracks. Again, we have a big expansion going on to ship iron ore out of Western Australia, which is consistent with the commodity boom that's going on in Australia. Lastly, we own 3 million acres of timberlands and agri-lands. The timber's in North America and in Brazil. The agri-lands, all of them are in Brazil. These two businesses have, we think, tremendous upside cash flow potential in the future.

Again, they're hard assets, which are something that produces cash, but also we believe goes up in value over time. You can store the trees when values aren't as high. Our cash flows have been good but not great over the past five years. We think there's tremendous upside as the U.S. economy recovers and housing begins to recover and use structural wood, which is where a lot of this capacity has gone in the past. I guess I use those slides to really just say that we think we have a tremendous group of assets within the company. What's even more interesting today is that our institutional clients in the business continue to allocate capital to these type of assets. They're really doing that because their alternatives on a relatively low-risk basis are government yields at 2%.

On a relatively low-risk basis, we believe we can earn for them 8%-12%-15%, depending on what we're buying and where it is. I guess what we're seeing in the institutional client market is a tremendous amount of capital flowing to these type of assets across the world. We believe if we're in a lower interest rate environment, and it's not to say that rates will stay exactly where they are today, but we believe we're in a low interest rate environment, that flows will continue to be allocated to these type of products across the world. Our strategy essentially is to provide these products to both our institutional clients and our public market clients through flagship entities that we have. Many of you will know, we set up Brookfield Infrastructure Partners in 2008.

Last year, we amalgamated together our power business, now we have Brookfield Renewable Energy Partners. We've announced that we're going to do that with Brookfield Property Partners in the real estate business. With each of those, we have institutional funds which go along beside them and give us extra financial capacity to do transactions. What we're trying to end up with 5 years from now is one of the highest quality funding models to own the type of assets which I just described to you, and to have a competitive advantage because of cost of capital within the businesses that we operate in. The last business being our private equity group, probably won't have a public entity, but will always be private, that we do transactions in that area. Specifically turning to Brookfield Property Partners, we've proposed the launch of this entity.

The launch will be identical to what we did with Brookfield Infrastructure Partners in 2008. All of our shareholders are going to receive a dividend. I guess we always believe that if you're going to start something out, give your shareholders a chance to own it first. It worked with Brookfield Infrastructure Partners, we thought we'd try it again. It is being created. It'll be an income and commercial property business. It'll continue all of the businesses that we've run in the commercial space for the past 20 years. We've earned over that period of time through both a combination of opportunistic investments and all of our core investments, being our office buildings we own and retail malls. We've earned a 15% return over the past approximately 20 years.

Obviously the past is no indication of the future, but it will continue the business that we have, and we hope to be able to earn those type of returns in the business. The business will be global, I guess one of the great advantages we think we are building within the company is if you have a global mandate and a market is overvalued, you can not have to put capital in that area, and you can go somewhere else. Clearly a big focus of ours today is Europe, we think, despite all of the distress in Europe and the things that are going on, that there's going to be some tremendous opportunities in the next couple of years. Just lastly, describing what this entity is that shareholders will receive. It has $70 billion of assets under management or control within the businesses.

It's about a $50 billion proportionately consolidated balance sheet. It has about $25 billion of total capital to support the business. Just over $10 billion is in common equity of the company. It entails all of our businesses, which is just over $30 billion of office and retail centers each. Our multifamily and industrial businesses that we continue to grow, and all of our opportunity funds that we invest through, which often are the start of new businesses for us as we launch into new opportunistic investments. I would end on this, and I'll turn it over to Brian, by just saying we think that Brookfield Property Partners will give us a tremendous access to capital that not too many others have. For Brookfield Asset Management shareholders, we'll still own 90% of it afterwards, we'll be highly incented to make this entity work properly.

For the parent company, it also adds management fees to us. It enhances our profile as an asset manager, we think that over time, it will show the value recognition of the assets we have within the business. With that, I'll turn it over to Brian, he'll just talk a little bit about the financial numbers within the company.

Brian Lawson
CFO, Brookfield Asset Management

Thanks, Bruce. Morning. I'm going to talk a bit about financial creation, financial numbers, as Bruce mentioned. Just to set the stage, starting off with how we think about value creation. What we're principally focused on at the firm is building that intrinsic value per share. At the end of the first quarter, we were around $42, $42.35. What we measure in terms of our ability to create value or our progress in creating value is what we call total return, on the slide here. There's two principal components to it. One is the funds from operations, that's the operating cash flow that we generate from all the assets that Bruce was talking about earlier in the presentation. In fact, around $1.1 billion, $1.2 billion a year currently. About a third of that we pay out in form of shareholder dividends.

The balance of it, we reinvest and compound in the business. The second component of it is valuation gains, which is the enhancement in value that we experience over time with these assets. Our objective with respect to total return is to generate a minimum return of 12% per year. Bruce mentioned we generated 14% last year, we're on track and pleased with that result. When it comes to how we actually do that, I'll talk a bit more about that, but at a high level, the funds from operations, remember, most of these are real return assets. There's a natural tendency for these assets to generate increasing cash flows in and of themselves.

Having said that, we have those 23,000 employees that are working day in, day out to increase the cash flows from that business, whether it's through leasing or engineering or a variety of other things. When it comes to the valuation gains, some of it's going to be market-based, but there's three things that we really control ourselves. One is most of these assets, the values are driven by the cash flows. As we drive the cash flows higher, we drive the values higher. Second, we spend a lot of time actively managing the portfolio of assets, repositioning them, expanding them, and that would result in higher multiples and higher quality of assets over time. Thirdly, a lot of it comes through how we purchase assets.

I think we've demonstrated well our ability to be a very disciplined acquirer and developer of assets over time, particularly capitalizing on times when valuations are low. We find that is a very opportune time for us to add to the asset portfolio. The business itself we view as being really three interconnected parts. One is the manager portion of the business. That's us managing capital for others. We put a $4 billion intrinsic value on that. Frankly, we think the potential there is much higher. Last year from an FFO perspective, it generated around $250 million of cash flow in terms of fee income. I'll talk a bit more about that. As it says today, we're around $50 billion of capital that we manage for our clients in the business.

The principal capital, the second component there, that's the $30 billion from our balance sheet that we have invested in all of these assets alongside our clients. That's all of the ports and the buildings and things that Bruce spoke about. About $1.3 billion and $1.4 billion of cash flow of FFO last year. We have some very profitable service businesses, construction, and related property services. As you can see down below, the $42 of intrinsic value per share, a large bulk of that is comprised of the principal capital. What we see happening over time is we will grow that, but we think we can grow the manager portion of the business at even a faster clip. Talk a bit about why we think that is going to happen.

First of all, just in terms of the FFO from the manager last year, I mentioned it was about $250 million that we reported on our financial statements. Most of that was the base fees. We tracked around $200 million on an annualized basis for the fees, and we are increasing that each and every year. What's notable on this slide is the performance income that's unrecognized. Last year, we realized $119 million of carried interest and performance fees that accrue to us, but they don't get recognized in our financial statements essentially until the end of the life of a fund or when at a minimum until all the clawback periods expire. We added another $100 million to that in the first quarter of this year.

We have about half a billion dollars that we've accumulated to date, none of which has shown up in our financial statements. We would expect to see very good FFO growth from that perspective as the performance income is recognized and comes into play. We continue to expand the client base. Bruce spoke about the attractiveness of the assets and the products and the investment strategies we offer to our clients. We're making very good progress on that front. A lot of that is driven by the investment performance. As you can see from this slide, we've had very solid performance. We're very pleased with it. In particular, as some of the vintages that these funds represent were some pretty tough years. We've also been able to capitalize on some tremendous buying opportunities through those years as well.

That track record continues to help us add clients and to expand that capital under management. In terms of where we go from here, in terms of building out this part of the business, we see the ability to expand the capital. We add more capital, means that we're going to earn higher base fees. The fund performance, I spoke about the carried interest and the performance income. As we continue to perform within the expectations of the funds, particularly if we outperform, the carried interests become increasingly valuable and add more to our funds and the value of the business. That's more in the private funds.

In the listed entities like the Brookfield Infrastructure Partners, the Brookfield Renewable Energy, the Brookfield Property Partners, as we compound and grow the cash flows in those business, a portion of the increase in the dividends we earn as part of our performance income. Those incentive distributions will increasingly contribute to Brookfield's cash flows as well. One of the very exciting things about this business is it's very scalable. We're not capital constrained in any way. Given the favorable track record that we have, the fact that there's reduced competition coming out of the 2008 and 2009 events gives us very strong momentum to really build this business substantially over the coming years. Second part I wanted to talk about was the principal capital, the $30 billion that we have invested.

A good takeaway from this slide is if you look at the composition of that invested capital, more than three quarters of it is invested in the core, high-quality, real return, infrastructure, office property, power generating, those real return assets. It's a very stable base for the intrinsic value, generates a lot of very stable and growing cash flows. In 2011, this is what the cash flows looked like. Again, as you'd expect from looking at the previous slide, over 70% of the cash flow that we generated, the FFO, came from those three principal components, the property, the renewable power, and the infrastructure. Even with the sustainability of those cash flows, I think it's fair to say that we are not firing on all cylinders. There's good growth prospects for all three of those.

In particular, looking at our private equity operations, several of those businesses are correlated with the U.S. home building market. We know that home building market is coming back at some point in time, we would expect to see very substantial growth in the cash flows from that business as well. In terms of the growth there, as I mentioned, the real return assets, we should expect to see growth as the economy continues to expand and through just continuing to work the FFO in that regard with the 23,000 employees and the correlation with the U.S. home building recovery. I think we're very well set up there from an organic growth perspective.

What we also have going for us are all the investment professionals and the engineers and the folks within the firm that are doing all the capital expansions and the acquisitions. We have the benefit that global breadth that Bruce spoke about, and our ability to operate within several different industry and asset classes means that we can take advantage of situations in areas of the economy where there's de-leveraging going on. Let's say Europe, certain parts of America, we can also benefit from strong growth areas as well, Brazil or Australia. We have a substantial development pipeline. We have good liquidity and a low cost of funds. We believe that we're going to be able to drive significant value through the acquisition development process over the next couple of years. We think it'll be two very good years.

In 2011, we put more than $8 billion to work in a number of different things, whether it was toll roads in Chile, building out rail lines in Australia, hydro facilities in Brazil, and a number of opportunities across the expanding our retail platform in the United States. A lot of very good work done there. On the development side, there's a lot of potential here as well. On the property side, we have 19 office projects, $7 billion of built-out project costs. On the renewable side, we're currently building four hydro facilities, $400 million of capital costs there, and a very substantial pipeline of hydro and wind opportunities in behind that. On the infrastructure side, I mentioned the rail lines. We have a multi-billion dollar expansion of the metallurgical facility that Bruce showed you on the screen there, and transmission lines in Texas.

A number of things on the go there. With all that, we've got a number of opportunities to continue to grow the firm, whether it's building out the asset management side, increasing the fee base there, whether it's just organically building the FFO within the various operations and also on the acquisition and development side. Just to close out before I hand it back to Bruce, we did put out our first quarter numbers this morning. We had a very good quarter. Cutting to the funds from operations for Brookfield shareholders went up from $231 million to $280 million. A lot of that happened within our property sector, but we had a lot of positive contributions from a number of the initiatives that we've talked about thus far in the meeting.

We did also declare the $0.14 dividend, which is up from the $0.13 clip that we recorded last year. With that, I'll hand it again back to Bruce. Thanks very much.

Bruce Flatt
President and CEO, Brookfield Asset Management

With that, we would take any questions if there are any from anybody in the room. Sir.

Speaker 5

Specifically, financial institutions in Europe trying to deleverage their balance sheets. Is Brookfield taking advantage of these opportunities, and what steps have you taken so far? Thank you.

Bruce Flatt
President and CEO, Brookfield Asset Management

Hopefully everyone heard the question. I'll paraphrase. What are we doing with respect to Europe, and are we going to take advantage of opportunities, and what have we done so far? I'd say our view is always cautious with respect to dangerous environments like Europe when there's things going on that you really don't know. Having said that, I think we've always tried to go where others tend not to go, and those situations usually produce long-term opportunities, which build great organizations. If I reflected on most of the company that we own today, and the assets we own in the company today, most of those assets have emanated from restructurings that we've done in the past 25 years. I'd say this is our sweet spot. Just specific to Europe, our last two years, we've put a lot more people in Europe than we had before.

We continue to build the business up. We don't have a very large business in Europe relative to the company, and we're thankful for that today. The benefit we have is that we have capital and knowledge from elsewhere in the world, and enough people in Europe now that we can capitalize on some of the situations. What we've focused on so far is just buying assets from companies in Europe who needed capital to execute their business plans. For example, we bought 50% of seven shopping malls from a Portuguese investor who needed capital in Portugal, and the malls were in Brazil. We bought 50% of a toll road from a company in Spain who needed capital to deploy within their business, and we bought 50% of their toll road in Chile.

We bought a number of loans from one of the banks in Europe that are entirely in New Zealand, but it was a European institution that sold them to us. What we've tried to do is capitalize on the assets which are outside of Europe, but owned by Europeans, and facilitate their success by giving them capital to reorganize. What we took was some of the assets without the issues that we didn't have that much knowledge of. Today, we're actually focused on opportunities which are larger in nature and more complex. We hope over the next couple of years, like we did in 2009 in the United States, we hope there's one or two significant opportunities in one or two of our businesses, which we can add major portfolios of assets in Europe.

The only thing I'd say is they don't come without complications, and they come with more risk than you think. Often, when we do that, shareholders wonder what we're doing. The only thing I can say is that if you reflect in past, some of the great things we've owned have come with opportunities like that. You're welcome.

Speaker 5

One of the more interesting things that you mentioned is going to happen is putting all your property. I'm curious to know, I presume that includes Brookfield Property, controlled by Brookfield. What happens to the public shareholders of Brookfield Properties during this reorganization?

Bruce Flatt
President and CEO, Brookfield Asset Management

Thank you for that. I'll repeat the question just if everyone didn't hear it. The question is, we're spinning out Brookfield Property Partners, and what happens to Brookfield Office Properties once that occurs. I'd try to answer it by saying the following. We have a lot of companies in the public market, and we care about every single one of them, and we want every single one of them to make a very good return for their shareholders. Often people that invest in one entity invest in another. We've learned from experience that if you make people money in one place, they will come along with you in another. I'd just start off by saying that we care a lot about Brookfield Office Properties and the value of that company and the shareholders that are there. They've been with us a long time.

It's been a long-time public company and one of our flagship entities. This has nothing really to do with Brookfield Office Properties. We're floating an entity above it, which has an enormous number of assets in it across the globe and in every different asset class in real estate. The differentiation is up top, we're creating a company that has access to capital to capitalize on opportunities across the globe in real estate in every single asset class where we have the capabilities to manage. Brookfield Office is very different from that. It is a very focused downtown office company in select markets where it can run one of the best office portfolios in the world. Those are very different mandates. The direct answer to your question is, it has nothing to do with Brookfield Office Properties.

That company will own 50% of the shares approximately that it owns today. Brookfield Office Properties will trade separately and will continue to trade separately afterwards, and it really has nothing to do with it. The way to think about it is that we own that entity today, and we're 100% shareholder. Afterwards, we're going to be 93% shareholder and we'll have some partners with us. It really has nothing to do with Brookfield Office as an entity, and it will continue with its mandate as it always has. We've always been happy to have 50% of If an office asset met the characteristics of what Brookfield Office does, we're always happy to have it continue to buy assets in the markets where it wants to be and support it to do that, as opposed to do it ourselves, and we'll continue with that afterwards.

Hopefully that answers your question.

Speaker 5

I love wind farms. Wind farms are fantastic. What I can't understand, Canada's a huge country. Why are we building wind farms 500 feet from people's houses? Aren't you just causing, I don't know whether you're doing it, why is it causing unnecessary objection? I know you have to go where the wind is it only that close to where people live?

Bruce Flatt
President and CEO, Brookfield Asset Management

Firstly, I don't think we're building any of those wind farms next to anybody's houses. Here's what I'd say to you is that what's important with wind and with any amount of electricity that's generated is where the load is. You can't have it too far from load, which means that the best place to build it would be in Baffin Island, I'm sure, because no one would see them or ever be up there to see a wind farm. The problem is you can't get the electricity down to where the people are. They have to be relatively close to where the people are or relatively close to where transmission lines are. I'd just say with all of these things, developers of these technologies have to be careful with the environmental impact and what it does to people.

I think most developers are trying to be very respectful, every day they try harder, no one's ever happy, especially when it's near you. I'd just say, I think if you broadly look across the industry, they try to do the best they can. It's never perfect.

Speaker 5

Well, I'm interested to know what your thoughts are on India and China.

Bruce Flatt
President and CEO, Brookfield Asset Management

We have modest operations in India, although growing, but small relative to the size of the organization, and small operations in China. I would say both of them are, from all of our travels there and our business that we do there, are amazing countries that are going to transform the world in the next 25 years. With all transformations of major things, sometimes it never goes in a straight line. There are hiccups along the way. There's no doubt both countries will have their hiccups along the way. I'd have to say that our observations as an organization is that these are incredible countries that are going to contribute in an amazing way to the world. That often as North Americans, we take a North American view to issues.

If you look at what's going on in the old emerging markets, those places have tremendous opportunity, and that's what's driving the world today. I think they're both very exciting places. It will take a long time for us to have significant amounts of capital in those countries because in what we do, we have to be very comfortable with rule of law, operating capacity, capability to do things ourselves, and we're just not there yet. I think for the world at large, we think they're very positive. For us, they get more interesting every day as we learn, but they won't be meaningful to the business in the short term from a direct investment perspective. Seeing no other questions, I will turn it back to Frank to go with the end of the meeting.

Frank McKenna
Chairman, Brookfield Asset Management

Thank you, Bruce, and thank you, ladies and gentlemen. If there are no further questions or comments, I'd like to thank you for your participation today. Appreciate your comments, take them seriously, I hope that you found the meeting and the information that you have received informative. That brings us to the end of today's meeting, unless there are any other items of business. Since there is no other item of business, I declare the meeting terminated. Thank you.