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Earnings Call: Q4 2019

Feb 27, 2020

Operator

Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Canadian Utilities Limited Year-End 2019 Results Conference Call and Webcast. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode, and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To join the question queue, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. Should you need assistance during the conference call, you may signal an operator by pressing star and zero. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Myles Dougan, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Mr. Dougan.

Myles Dougan
Director of Investor Relations, Canadian Utilities

Thank you, Anastasia, good morning, everyone. We're pleased you could join us for our fourth quarter 2019 conference call. With me today is Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Dennis DeChamplain, Senior Vice President and Controller, Derek Cook, and Vice President of Finance, Treasury, and Risk, Colin Jackson. Dennis will begin today with some opening comments on our financial results and recent company developments. Following his prepared remarks, we will take questions from the investment community. Please note that a replay of the conference call and a transcript will be available on our website at canadianutilities.com and can be found in the investors section under the heading Events and Presentations. I'd like to remind you all that our remarks today will include forward-looking statements that are subject to important risks and uncertainties.

For more information on these risks and uncertainties, please see the reports filed by Canadian Utilities with the Canadian securities regulators. Finally, I'd also like to point out that during this presentation, we may refer to certain non-GAAP measures such as adjusted earnings, adjusted earnings per share, funds generated by operations, and capital investment. These measures do not have any standardized meaning under IFRS, and as a result, they may not be comparable to similar measures presented in other entities. Now I'll turn the call over to Dennis for his opening remarks.

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

Thanks, Myles, good morning, everyone. Thank you all very much for joining us today on our fourth quarter 2019 conference call. Canadian Utilities achieved adjusted earnings of CAD 608 million in 2019 compared to CAD 607 million in 2018. Our strong performance in 2019 was mainly the result of continued cost improvements across the company, ongoing capital investment in utility rate base growth, and positive regulatory decisions.

Two additional hydrocarbon storage caverns became operational in the second quarter of 2018 and provided a full year of earnings in 2019. Additional earnings also resulted from regulatory rate decisions in both the electricity transmission and the natural gas transmission businesses. Maintaining stable year-over-year earnings was quite an achievement, considering that 2018's adjusted earnings included CAD 35 million in earnings associated with the Alberta Balancing Pool's termination of the Battle River Unit 5 PPA.

We also recorded CAD 12 million in earnings in 2018 due to an early energization incentive for completing construction ahead of schedule on Alberta Powerline. While those were good financial outcomes in 2018, they also set us up for quite a challenge in 2019 to close that earnings gap. Due to the great work of our people in 2019, not only did we close that earnings gap, we recorded ever so slightly higher earnings in 2019 compared to last year. We also completed two notable asset dispositions in 2019. In September, we sold our Canadian fossil fuel-based electricity generation business, and in December, we completed the sale of our 80% interest in Alberta Powerline.

We made the decision to sell the generation business and our ownership business, or sorry, our ownership interest in Alberta Powerline in 2019 for different business reasons, but the overall strategic rationale is the same. We are increasingly focused on global prospects for growth. As we seek strategic opportunities to expand our global portfolio of utility and energy infrastructure investments and services, we continuously review our holdings to look for opportunities to monetize assets and increase our capacity for growth. These 2019 sale transactions significantly improve our overall financial strength. Our many years of success as a financially secure and stable utility and energy infrastructure company is a result of our disciplined and prudent capital investment in utility and utility-like assets with regulated or long-term contracted earnings.

We will continue to look for opportunities for similar investments and complementary services outside of Alberta, with a particular focus on North America, Latin America, and Australia. Maintaining our patient approach to long-term shareowner value creation has been Canadian Utilities' hallmark for many years.

We'll look for the right investment with the right strategic fit and at the right price. In the meantime, we continue to build our portfolio of utility and long-term contracted energy infrastructure assets. Our 2020 capital plans include investing more than CAD 1 billion in our five regulated utilities and in long-term contracted capital assets. We are already busy on several of those projects in 2020. We commenced construction on the Pembina Keephills natural gas transmission pipeline in the fourth quarter of 2019. The 59 km high-pressure natural gas pipeline supports the coal to gas conversion of power producers in the Genesee and surrounding areas of Alberta.

The estimated cost to construct this natural gas pipeline is approximately CAD 230 million and is expected to be complete in mid-2020. We secured long-term contracts and commenced construction for a fifth salt cavern hydrocarbon storage facility. Construction began in the fourth quarter of 2019, with full operation targeted for late 2021. We also entered into a partnership with a Chilean developer to build and operate an 18 MW solar project located in southern Chile. The total investment in this project is approximately CAD 24 million, with an expected completion in 2021. With these projects and others, our plans for continued utility and energy infrastructure investments are already well underway in 2020. In January, we declared a first quarter 2020 dividend with a 3% increase over the dividends paid in 2019.

Canadian Utilities has increased its dividend per share for 48 consecutive years, the longest track record of annual dividend increases of any publicly traded company. We're very proud of our track record of dividend increases. It was the prudent choice to adjust the size of our dividend increase to be in line with our sustainable earnings growth, which is linked to growth from our regulated and long-term contracted investments. Over the next three years, our expected rate base growth is about 3% per year. Going forward, Canadian Utilities' strong, stable foundation of regulated utility and long-term contracted energy infrastructure investments and services will provide the platform to continue our long track record of exceptional returns for our share owners. That concludes my prepared remarks, and I'll now turn the call back over to Myles.

Myles Dougan
Director of Investor Relations, Canadian Utilities

Thank you, Dennis. We'll turn the call over to the conference coordinator now for your questions.

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. In the interest of time, we ask you to limit yourself to two questions. If you have additional questions, you are welcome to rejoin the queue. To join the question queue, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. You will hear a tone acknowledging your request. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing any keys.

To withdraw from the question queue, please press star then two. Webcast participants are welcome to click on the submit question tab near the top of the webcast frame and type their question. The Canadian Utilities investor relations team will follow up with you by email after the call. Once again, anyone on the conference call who wishes to ask a question may press star one at this time.

Our very first question comes from Linda Ezergailis with TD Securities. Please go ahead.

Linda Ezergailis
Analyst, TD Securities

Thank you. I'm wondering if you could maybe give us some more context about how you're thinking of the probability and timing of putting your sale proceeds to use. What are you seeing in terms of the current environment, relative attractiveness of various geographies, types of investments, and at what point would you consider alternative uses of proceeds, including potentially share buybacks or special dividends?

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

Thanks. Good morning, Linda.

Linda Ezergailis
Analyst, TD Securities

Morning.

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

In terms of our strategy for redeploying the capital, we are staying the course with what we've communicated in the past. Our core strength is really managing operating regulated utility assets. We've achieved, as you know, top-tier results under all different regulatory regimes to bring value to our share owners. We're, I'll say, continually assessing our investment portfolio. The asset sales that we did make, as I mentioned in our opening comments, were the right decision, increased the financial strength. If you put that together with the target markets that we mentioned, North America, ex Alberta, Latin America and Australia, there are opportunities in, I'll say, the kind of greenfield developments in Australia. There are utility opportunities in the rest of North America that we're continuing to look at.

South America, we are developing, albeit at a slower pace, on some of our greenfield developments, like our Chilean solar project. I am going to say there is nothing imminent right now on redeploying that cash. We mentioned that we are looking for the right asset in the right geography at the right price.

In terms of alternate uses, right now our cash on the balance sheet does help our credit metrics as our FFO to debt is a net debt after you subtract the cash. That does help us on the credit metric side and gives us optionality. While we are focused on growing the business within Canadian Utilities. Never say never. Down the road, we could look at a special dividend. We did one in the mid-2000s, and buybacks as well. Right now, the focus is on growing the company.

That's, in essence, our plans.

Linda Ezergailis
Analyst, TD Securities

Thank you.

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

I think I've addressed your.

Linda Ezergailis
Analyst, TD Securities

Yes

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

your four bullets.

Linda Ezergailis
Analyst, TD Securities

Sorry. I guess my follow-up question might have a few bullets as well, if you want to call it that. On the flip side, you are focusing on growth, but you also have been disciplined stewards of capital. What would be the criteria for considering on the edge of partial or full asset sales? Would it be if you found a super-sized opportunity to raise proceeds? Would it be maybe because you could surface value and clearly these assets would be valued more highly with maybe private money or some other strategic operator? Maybe would ESG considerations influence as well how you look at optimizing your portfolio of assets and businesses?

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

Yeah. We continue to look at our portfolio in terms of value to us versus value to other and how it's performing and its long-term fit into our strategic plans. We, like many businesses, continue to review that. Further asset sales, I guess, could be a potential. In terms of looking for supersizing a deal, we have partnered and are willing to work with other partners in order to, say, increase the check size or increase the target size, same check size for us, in terms of potential targets.

You mentioned ESG considerations. With the disposition of our generation business, our carbon dioxide emissions are down pretty much to nothing, I'm going to say, through our generation. We're at the point now where our Oldman River hydro dam that we retained from the disposition generates enough electricity to power all of our operative businesses.

In terms of ESG bonuses and pluses, that is a factor that we look at. Although that was not the primary reason for the generation sales to look for long-term contracted earnings, and the earnings for generation were becoming increasingly merchant.

Linda Ezergailis
Analyst, TD Securities

That's helpful. Thank you. I'll jump back in the queue.

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

Thanks, Linda.

Operator

Our next question comes from Maurice Choy with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Maurice Choy
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Thanks. Good morning. I guess my first question is really a follow-up to the previous topic about capital deployment. You mentioned, obviously, disposition of power projects as one of the things to consider when it comes to ESG. Taking that step further, as you think of gas versus electricity utilities, obviously, you have gas utilities in Alberta. As you think about the next dollar that you want to invest, do you have a preference of one over the other?

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

Probably. We would probably prefer electricity over gas. That's not to say that gas isn't viable in the long term. We are innovating with hydrogen down in Australia. We have opened our Clean Energy Innovation Hub at our operations in Perth, whereby we're creating green hydrogen, running a fuel cell off of that hydrogen, injecting some of the hydrogen into our gas lines to further kind of promote the usefulness of natural gas as a fuel in the future. Electricity with the electrification of everything, we believe that there's a great future there. Maybe not the electricity that we've seen in the previous few decades as more distributed systems come online. The next dollar, as you put it, we will look at electricity and gas. All else being equal, which they never are, we would probably lean to electricity.

Maurice Choy
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Thanks. The second question is more about this quarter or this year in particular. As you look across the four utilities in Alberta, can you speak to the achieved ROEs that you've seen this year and whether or not you believe some of the out performances will continue moving forward?

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

Sure. Our two distribution companies that are governed by performance-based regulation. Their financial returns on equity, we don't have the utility returns yet. Their financial returns are about 350 basis points above the approved return. Our two cost of service utilities, the gas and electricity transmissions, their financial ROEs are about 10.75% on average, which is, compared to the 8.5% approved return, that's north of a couple of hundred basis points out-performance. On the PBR companies, we view those earnings as entirely sustainable. We are in 2019, finished year two of the five-year term of the second generation of PBR. We are well underway of lowering our run rate and our costs so that we will be able to achieve the returns for the share owner over the PBR term.

Just like when we came off of PBR one into PBR two, that benefited our customers by having a great rate decrease as we reset from PBR one into PBR two. All the while during this PBR period, our customers are experiencing, say, rate increases at lower than inflation. We'll say that PBR model is continuing to deliver the intended results for both our customers and for our share owners. Cost of service utilities, they've been steady in their out-performance of the approved returns. That being said, there's more variability in those transmission cost of service companies as they go in and out of shorter two or three-year terms for their rates.

Maurice Choy
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Thank you very much.

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

Thanks, Maurice.

Operator

Sorry, go ahead. Our next question comes from Mark Jarvi with CIBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Mark Jarvi
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Yeah. Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Maybe I just want to start on, there was some commentary in the MD&A about reassessment of anomaly adjustments. I'm just wondering what that could mean for the PBR-regulated utilities in Alberta.

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

Reassessment of anomaly adjustments. Sorry. Good morning, Mark.

Mark Jarvi
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Hey.

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

The AUC went back and reviewed what they had previously identified as their five criterion for identifying as an anomaly, by which rates would be adjusted moving from PBR 1 into PBR 2. They've, say, essentially scrapped those criterion and have put it up for an ad hoc, you make an application if you believe that an anomaly's been hit. That being said, they have come out to say the past performance, the overall performance of the utility companies, they don't believe would make it as an anomaly. The AUC doesn't expect there to be many anomalies, and it is on the utilities and the customer groups to apply for anomalies, and this would be going back and reaching back, adjusting rates back to January 1, 2018. So there would be a cumulative impact, should any anomalies be approved.

We've applied for an anomaly to increase the rates due to the inflation factor. We know of one customer group that has indicated that they will be applying for an anomaly. We don't know what that application will be, but that process is intended to roll out over the remainder of this year. I sure as heck hope we got final rates for 2018 by the end of this year. That's the largest potential retrospective reach that we have hanging out on our companies.

Mark Jarvi
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Could you quantify it at all, Dennis, in terms of what it could be impact on retroactive and either on the go forward?

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

I'll have to follow up. Maybe you could follow up offline with Myles, because I don't want to give you a wrong number, Mark.

Mark Jarvi
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Okay. Fair enough.

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

It is in the millions.

Mark Jarvi
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Okay. I wanted to maybe pick up on the comment you made about the cash being on the balance sheet and being credit positive. Just curious, and obviously you've seen Hydro One come to market this week with really low rates and the markets are right now. How do you guys think about the debt financing markets and where you are with the balance sheet? Does the current rates you're seeing out there change of when you come to market and maybe lock in at this lower rate for longer?

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

Yeah. I was looking at the rates the other day with long Canada's at whatever, 1.3%. If you roll in our spread right now, it could be between 130 and 140 basis points would make for, I'll say, an even lower than our 2.96% issuance that we had from last year. We generally have been issuing later on in the year once we get kind of a firmer bead on our capital programs. With the current environment right now, we continually monitor it. I don't think that there's going to be a large uptick in the near future, but we continue to monitor it. As you know, we've been a traditional third, fourth quarter issuer. Yeah, those rates are appealing and they caught my eye.

Mark Jarvi
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Okay. I'll leave it there. Thanks, Dennis.

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

Thanks very much, Mark.

Operator

Once again, if you have a question, please press star then one. Our next question comes from Patrick Kenny with National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.

Patrick Kenny
Analyst, National Bank Financial

Yeah, good morning, guys. Dennis, just on the 3% dividend increase versus ATCO at 7.5%, I guess. I was just curious what opportunities you might be pursuing to augment CU's dividend growth rate so that it converges closer to ATCO's over the coming years.

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

There was that convergence and now there's more of a divergence as the, we'll say, the payout ratio in Canadian Utilities is in line with our peers. If you take a look at ATCO's payout ratio, there's more room given that utilities right now is a large component for ATCO's base. Just given to ATCO's in the 50s, the percentage in terms of payout ratio and CU's in the 70s. Until something changes between ATCO that's not in CU or, sorry, in CU that's not in ATCO, there's not going to be, I'll say, a kind of a realignment of those dividend increases given our long-term sustainable growth rate that we're seeing in CU.

Patrick Kenny
Analyst, National Bank Financial

Makes sense. On the flip side, I guess, with the AUC considering a return to formula-based generic cost of capital approach, how much downside to the 8.5% base ROE do you think you could absorb without impacting that 3% dividend growth rate?

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

In the GCOC proceeding, nobody, not utilities nor customer groups, have advocated a return to a formula going forward. Given the current environment, nobody has proffered evidence that a return to a formula would be good for all stakeholders. I suspect that's kind of chilled a little bit in the AUC's, I'll say, quest for regulatory efficiency. We can just dispense with GCOCs and invoke a formula. That doesn't seem like that would be the case. We're at 8.5% return on 37% equity thickness. When you look at fair return standard, two of the elements of the three-legged stool, comparable investments and capital attraction, are not being met in our view with that 8.5% on 37%. The approved ROEs elsewhere in Canada are an average of 9.2% on 43% equity.

That's kind of like the backbone for our submission of 10% on 40% equity thickness. We have an alternative in there. If the AUC doesn't want to increase the equity thickness, leave it at 37%, we'd be applying for a 10.5% return. That's my pitch for returns should go up, not down. At 37% equity, every 100 basis points change from that impacts Canadian Utilities by between CAD 40 million-CAD 45 million per year. That's in earnings and cash. If you look at CAD 600 million or without generation and Alberta Powerline future earnings, if you back that out, you're in, we'll call it the CAD 500 million-CAD 550 million range. That CAD 40 million is a good hunk of growth.

Patrick Kenny
Analyst, National Bank Financial

That's great. Very helpful. Thanks.

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

Those are our considerations and what the impact of that GCOC would be. Again, that's not effective until 2021.

Patrick Kenny
Analyst, National Bank Financial

Right. Got it. Okay. Just last one for me here. Given the current sell-off in commodities, you mentioned ESG considerations weighing in on your capital redeployment strategy. Any chance you could clarify which geographies, industries, or even counterparties are now off the table given your strategy around ESG?

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

I mentioned ESG. The primary component for our generation was the kind of long-term versus merchant earnings that was being driven by our generation portfolio. ES and G was a factor, but it wasn't the driving factor in the decision. If you take a look at geographies, targets, with a heavy ESG component, we would think hard about investing in coal. We could do coal if there was a path like we were on with our former generation business to convert it to cleaner-fired natural gas. That being said, given where sentiment is and the investors, we would consider that in our targets. I don't think anything is completely off the table right now. As I say, we could do coal and convert. That's about it.

Patrick Kenny
Analyst, National Bank Financial

Okay, great. That's very helpful. Thanks again.

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

Thanks, Patrick.

Operator

Our next question comes from Naji Baydoun with iA Private Wealth. Please go ahead.

Naji Baydoun
Analyst, iA Private Wealth

Hi. Good morning. Just one question for Ian. Wondering if you can talk about your Chilean investment in solar and if there are any potential follow-on investments with that partner in the same region or in South America.

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

Thanks for the question. It's a small project. It gets us into the market, gets us into the renewable market. It isn't contracted, it's merchant. That being said, the generation from that solar project feeds into a kind of a stabilized price mechanism whereby the proceeds we receive on sales is equivalent to the current PPA contracts that are in the market. It's going to be developed over the next couple of years at, I can't remember the cost, CAD 24 million? About CAD 24 million for the cost. A small project. We're in a partnership with the developer, there's other opportunities there. We're continuing to look at, as I mentioned before, Latin America is one of our target markets. We're looking there as well as in North America and Australia.

Naji Baydoun
Analyst, iA Private Wealth

Thanks. That's helpful. I'm just wondering if you can add a bit more color on what the scope of the scale of those additional investments in renewables could look like?

Dennis DeChamplain
EVP and CFO, Canadian Utilities

Well, it'll depend on the opportunity. We recently completed north of CAD 100 million deal for a 35 MW hydro plant in Mexico. That gives you a little bit of an idea as to in the tens of millions into the hundreds of millions. There's other opportunities out there that could be significantly larger than that, and our development teams are looking at all of those elements as we continue to invest in our existing utilities. We're continuing to look for M&A activity for other utilities and greenfield developments for probably more on the renewable side. We're looking at all of those aspects given where we are with our current financial strength.

Naji Baydoun
Analyst, iA Private Wealth

Thank you.

Operator

This concludes the question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Myles Dougan for any closing remarks.

Myles Dougan
Director of Investor Relations, Canadian Utilities

Well, thanks, Anastasia, and thank you all for participating this morning. We appreciate your interest in Canadian Utilities, and we look forward to speaking with you again soon. Bye for now.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect.