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Earnings Call: Q2 2025

Aug 13, 2025

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Cavvy Energy Q2 2025 Financial Results Conference Call. Please be advised that today's proceedings are being recorded. Following the presentation, we'll conduct a question and answer session. If you have a question you are viewing on Webcast, please use the "Ask a Question" button in the top right-hand corner to type your question at any time during the presentation. If you are participating via telephone and would like to ask a question, please dial star one one at any time. You will then be in the queue for a question and answer session at the end of the call. I will now like to turn the meeting over to Mr. Dallas McConnell, Vice President, Corporate Finance. Please go ahead, Mr. McConnell.

Dallas McConnell
VP Corporate Finance, Cavvy Energy Limited

Thanks very much, Marvin, and good morning, everyone. I would like to welcome you to Cavvy Energy's Second Quarter 2025 Conference Call. With me today are President and Chief Executive Officer, Darcy Reding, Chief Financial Officer, Adam Gray, Chief Operating Officer, John Emery, and Chief Commercial Officer, Paul Kunkel. Darcy and Adam will begin today with a review of our operating and financial results and certain other company developments. Following their prepared remarks, we will turn the call over to the conference coordinator for your questions. Next slide. Before Darcy begins, I would like to remind you that our remarks today will include forward-looking statements that are subject to important risks and uncertainties. For more information on these risks and uncertainties, please see the reports filed by Cavvy with the Canadian Securities Regulators on sedarplus.ca.

With that, I will now turn the call over to our President and CEO, Darcy Reding, who will provide more detail on our performance last quarter, along with recent corporate developments.

Darcy Reding
President and CEO, Cavvy Energy Limited

Thank you, Dallas, and thank you, everyone, for your interest in our company and in our second quarter 2025 results. I'd like to begin the formal portion of the call by highlighting why we believe Cavvy Energy provides a compelling investment opportunity, followed by a short recap of our strategic journey to date. Cavvy Energy is uniquely positioned in Western Canada as a small to mid-cap energy company owning both a material E&P footprint and an extensive network of natural gas gathering, processing, and product handling infrastructure.

Our low production decline, consistently less than 10% annually, helps sustain our business, while our extensive drilling inventory, exceeding 300 identified net locations, provides the company with an abundance of highly impactful shareholder value growth opportunities. Our high working interest and operated infrastructure includes three deep-cut liquids recovery gas plants with sulfur recovery. These assets have ample capacity to safely and efficiently process not only Cavvy's production, but to also support a thriving and growing natural gas processing business that supplements our commodity sales revenue with material fee revenue from third-party producers in our capture areas. Cavvy is a significant producer of sulfur in Canada, and beginning January 1st 2026, 100% of our sulfur production will be sold at full market value, contrasting the CAD 6 per metric ton that most of our sulfur sales have been capped at since 2019.

Additional detail will be provided on this later in the call. We have a small but seasoned executive management team of five, with over 130 years of collective business and energy experience, and a strong and supportive shareholder with INCO owning 47% of our common shares. Our current share price represents a significant discount to our approved developed producing, or PDP, net asset value of $1.21 per share. We believe that as we continue to grow our per share cash flow via our midstream growth, sulfur pricing exposure, and ongoing cost structure reduction and optimization, Cavvy Energy represents an attractive investment opportunity for new and existing shareholders. Next, I want to briefly recap the execution of our strategic plan over the past couple of years. I'm extremely proud of our success to date.

In 2023 and the early part of 2024, we focused on improving our Western Canadian-based upstream and midstream business. We focused on a new strategy that would strengthen and sustain the business in the short term and open opportunities for growth and shareholder value accretion in the medium and long term. This new strategy resulted in a directional change away from a company that was founded on the vision of building a liquefied natural gas facility on the east coast of Canada. The LNG assets were sold in 2024, and the proceeds used to deleverage the company and repay our highest cost debt. In 2024, we embedded this new strategy deep into our business by creating and enhancing the culture, processes, and skill sets of our team members across the organization, deepening our resolve and commitment to our transition strategy.

In 2025, we are in the midst of completing our strategic pivot and have achieved the milestones originally imagined as our figurative measuring stick for the success of our strategy. Notably, in May of this year, we gained shareholder approval for our corporate name change to Cavvy Energy. We believe this rebrand is both symbolic and appropriately timed with our establishment as a premier energy company in Western Canada. We will maintain our financial momentum by growing our midstream business, materially improving our cash flow, most immediately with the expectation of greatly improved sulfur revenue in 2026, and deleveraging our balance sheet. We are extremely excited about this transition and expect a material reduction in our cost of capital while enhancing cash flow.

We further expect to open new growth pathways as our improved cash flow creates opportunities to acquire assets complementary to our strategy or to fund drilling of our substantial inventory of locations. We believe our strategic plan, first envisioned in 2023, remains appropriate and that we have demonstrated success in achieving our milestones. We look forward to reporting on our future successes. On slide five, revisiting a visual used in a previous quarterly call, the map on the right shows our Caroline gas plant, its extensive regional capture area associated with the existing Cavvy-owned gathering infrastructure, and the substantial new industry drilling that has occurred within that capture area over the prior 4+ years.

The chart in the lower left shows the tremendous growth in raw gas volume within the Caroline gas plant capture area, with raw gas production capability in the region nearing 200 million cu ft per day as of the second quarter of this year. Over that same time period, and as represented by the light blue line on this chart, Cavvy has successfully grown its third-party process volume by a compounded average growth rate of 76%, reaching approximately 80 million cu ft per day in Q2 2025. Our strategy remains focused on the continued growth of process volumes and fee revenue at our Caroline gas plant, and we are committed to capture additional newly drilled production, as well as production feeding the infrastructure of other operators in the area through our ongoing consolidation efforts. On slide six, you can see Cavvy produced about 10% of Canada's total sulfur in 2024.

Effective January 1st 2026, 100% of Cavvy's sulfur production is eligible to receive market pricing, as I mentioned before, which has remained resilient throughout 2025 and is currently fetching a spot price of approximately $250 per metric ton. Although sulfur pricing has exhibited significant volatility historically, the chart shows that the market price of sulfur has exceeded our break-even aggregate cost of handling, transporting, and marketing sulfur, which is approximately $80 per metric ton for the vast majority of the past 15 years. In the second quarter of 2025, approximately 1,100 metric tons per day of Cavvy's sulfur production received the contracted CAD 6 per metric ton, which will no longer apply as of January 1st.

Although historical sulfur pricing does not guarantee its forward pricing, a sustained and robust sulfur price in 2026 and beyond will drive a significant new net revenue stream for Cavvy, as represented by the sulfur net revenue sensitivity matrix located in the lower right. Further scrutiny of this matrix shows that at reasonable expectations of 2026 sulfur pricing, the company has the potential to generate in excess of CAD 60 million in additional net cash flow. As this lever is now less than two quarters away from becoming reality, we are extremely excited about the opportunity this will create to help accelerate our strategy. We are looking forward to the expiry of the current sulfur contract after December 31st 2025, and we'll be eagerly anticipating the impact to our business with this potential new revenue stream.

We hope the review of the last few minutes has provided an illustration of some of the reasons we are excited for the future of the company and for the value it offers shareholders. Moving on now to the current business at hand, the second quarter of 2025 was one that accomplished significant growth in our midstream processing business while delivering strong cash flow and a healthy reduction to the company's debt. Touching on the highlights for the quarter, despite a very weak pricing quarter for ECO Natural Gas, to which approximately 80% of Cavvy's production is exposed, net operating income in the quarter was CAD 26.5 million, bolstered by CAD 17.5 million in commodity hedging gains.

Average production for the quarter was slightly over 26,000 BOE per day, which was impacted negatively by our decision to once again shut in dry gas production in Northern Alberta and Northeast BC, as the relatively good ECO gas prices benefiting our first quarter quickly softened by the second quarter. A new record was established by the company in the second quarter when nearly 120 million cu ft of raw natural gas per day was processed for third parties at Cavvy Energy's owned and operated gas plants. This supported a material increase of CAD 5.4 million in additional processing revenue in the quarter relative to the same period in 2024. Net company debt was reduced in the quarter by CAD 18.6 million, leaving the corporate net debt at the end of the quarter at CAD 167 million.

Debt reduction remains a key focus for the company for the remainder of the year and into 2026. At this time, I would like to invite Adam Gray, Chief Financial Officer, to elaborate on our second quarter operating and financial results and provide a few comments on our debt, liquidity, current commodity hedge position, and our corporate guidance.

Adam Gray
CFO, Cavvy Energy Limited

Thanks, Darcy, and good morning, everybody. Thanks for joining us. At a high level, the second quarter of 2025 was characterized by three themes. First, consistent, reliable operations in our core strategic operating areas. Second, the continued acceleration of our third-party processing business, which we've been talking about for several quarters now and are pleased to deliver throughput and revenue numbers that support our growth story. Third, fairly significant deleveraging both against total debt and net debt metrics. On the first theme, I'll turn your attention to the line graph on the lower left of this slide showing production by area over the last 12 months. During the second quarter, we produced just over 26,000 BOEs per day, approximately 81% of which was natural gas. Our remaining liquids production is roughly equally split between NGLs and condensate.

This production result reflects strong operating reliability in our three core areas, being Waterton, Jumping Pound, and Caroline. Production also benefited this quarter from cycling on those volumes in Northeast BC and Northern Alberta, as Darcy mentioned, to take advantage of relatively strong prices in late Q1 and early Q2. Northeast BC and Northern Alberta both produce quite dry gas, meaning very little liquids are recovered from the gas, and they have high variable cost profiles because we don't own any processing infrastructure up there. These areas were shut in again through June as AECO prices seasonally weakened, bringing our current production today to just over 24,000 BOEs. We hope pricing will allow us to return these assets to production in the third or fourth quarter of 2025.

Also, as we've previously discussed, in August 2024, we shut in the component of our central Alberta production, which flows into a third-party Ram River processing facility. That production represents approximately 7,000 BOEs per day, as shown in the graph by the light brown or orange line. The combination of current projected AECO pricing and the high cost burden imposed by that facility suggests this area will remain shut in for the foreseeable future. However, we continue to pursue a commercial outcome that could enable the economic resumption of that production. As a rule of thumb, our corporate production capability when all areas are producing is approximately 35,000 BOEs a day, plus 1,400 tons of sulfur per day.

Although it's challenging to measure many of our per BOE KPIs when areas remain shut in, as I'll discuss in a moment, we do believe that these shut-ins preserve cash flow, reserve value, and strategic optionality, and we are endeavoring to get them back on as soon as economically possible. Turning to operating expense now, on an aggregate basis, OPEX was CAD 40 million for the second quarter versus CAD 44 million for the first quarter of 2025 and CAD 53 million for the second quarter of 2024. This 24% decrease in operating expense represents a combination of lower third-party processing fees paid, lower carbon taxes, both because our carbon intensity is reducing as we fill our facilities, and because we were successful purchasing carbon credits in the open market this year at a substantial discount to the compliance rate, and continued cost reduction efforts across our field operations.

Operating expense per BOE came in at CAD 17.04, though as I've said in the past, the bulk of our operating cost is incurred at our three deep-cut sour gas processing facilities. During Q2, only 61% of the total throughput of those facilities was our own production, so OPEX per owned BOE is only one metric to be considered in the business. This is why we use adjusted operating expense per BOE, as that non-GAAP measure recognizes both the third-party processing fees earned and sulfur revenue we're able to generate from the ownership of these facilities. On an adjusted basis, operating expense was CAD 11.59 per BOE in the second quarter. The gap between operating expense and adjusted operating expense continues to widen as we grow our third-party business and will grow substantially in 2026 when we receive sulfur market price for our sulfur.

Speaking of third-party processing, our second theme of the quarter, we're pleased to report 123% growth year-over-year in revenue on the back of a 128% increase year-over-year in third-party volumes processed. Darcy has spoken at length about this part of our business, so I don't have anything more to add other than to say we hope to continue delivering growth at both Caroline and Jumping Pound. Turning to financial results, during Q2, our hedge book continued to deliver stability on both the natural gas and condensate fronts. We're pleased to have generated CAD 0.09 per share in net operating income and CAD 0.05 per share in operating funds flow, both stronger than Q1 when normalized for the hedge monetization we completed in Q1.

We posted positive NOI and net back on a pre-hedged basis, but certainly recognize the strength of our gas hedge book, which delivered CAD 17.5 million of gains during the quarter. Capital expenditures remained as constrained as possible in Q2, reflecting our desire to conserve cash and repay debt. However, we have continued to invest in high-impact, well-in facility optimization projects financed by our rights offering last year. We budgeted CAD 10 million in capital towards this program in 2025, of which just over CAD 3 million has been deployed year to date. These projects are on track to deliver well in excess of 100% internal rates of return and are all expected to pay out before the end of the calendar year. The ongoing deployment of this capital will positively impact cash flow over the short and long term and meaningfully improve business valuation metrics.

Now, to touch on the third and final theme of the quarter, we're pleased to have made meaningful progress on reducing both total debt and net debt. Through a combination of cash payments against our term debt revolver, a favorable movement in the CAD USD FX rate, and reduction in our non-cash working capital deficit, we're able to reduce net debt by CAD 18.6 million and total debt by CAD 9.8 million during the quarter. Subsequent to the quarter, on a net basis, we've repaid a further CAD 1.1 million , bringing our debt balance today to CAD 157 million or $114 million. A reminder that all of our debt is denominated in US dollars. This quarter marks the fifth consecutive quarter we have reduced debt during quite a difficult commodity price macro environment.

We are very proud of that record and hope to continue it or accelerate it if and as AECO prices recover and as other elements of our strategic execution continue to deliver results. Okay, I'll finish up my section this morning by touching on our hedge position and 2025 guidance. In aggregate, our natural gas production was 87% hedged, representing 110,000 GJs per day in Q2 at a price of CAD 3.32 per GJ. That hedge level will continue through the remainder of 2025, and at the moment, we have 78,000 GJs per day hedged in Q1 2026, falling to 63,000 GJs per day by Q4 2026 through Q1 2027.

We are not going to add additional gas hedges at the moment until there's a recovery in the long-term AECO strip, but expect to hedge up 2026 and 2027 production if and when we can do so at or above that CAD 3.32 per GJ weighted average price. Our condensate production was approximately 65% hedged during the quarter. Those hedges, which are a combination of collars and swaps, gradually declined from just over 1,600 bbl per day in Q3 of 2025 to 1,200 bbl per day through calendar 2027, with a small position in place through Q2 2028. On the currency front, we've hedged the majority of our USD-denominated debt service obligations between now and the end of 2025, and roughly 50% of those obligations in the first half of 2026, with a variety of financial derivative products.

I'll direct your attention to our financial statements for those details as these hedges aren't highlighted on this slide. Finally, we've not adjusted our 2025 guidance this quarter. However, we expect to be at or above the high end of our net operating income guidance and continue to see positive potential upside production if improvements in ECO allow us to return that Northern Alberta sour and Northeast BC fields onto production. That concludes my portion of the discussion. Thanks, everybody, for participating today, and I'll turn the call back over to Dallas for concluding remarks and any questions.

Dallas McConnell
VP Corporate Finance, Cavvy Energy Limited

Thanks, Adam and Darcy. I'll now ask the conference operator to manage the question and answer portion of the call from the telephone.

Operator

Thank you. We will now take questions. If you have a question and you are viewing on the webcast, please use the "Ask a Question" button in the top right-hand corner to type your question. If you have a question and you're participating via telephone, please press star one one on your telephone keypad. There will be a brief pause while the participants register. Thank you for your patience.

Dallas McConnell
VP Corporate Finance, Cavvy Energy Limited

Okay, we'll now turn to questions from the webcast. We do have a few, so I'll read them aloud and then ask a team member here to answer. The first question is from Ken. Would Cavvy consider a partnership with a data center proponent? I'm going to ask Paul Kunkel, our Chief Commercial Officer, to respond.

Paul Kunkel
CCO, Cavvy Energy Limited

Thank you, Dallas, and thank you for the question. I think the short answer is absolutely. In fact, we are currently working with a number of project proponents looking at the potential for both power generation and subsequent data center projects at all three of our facilities. We are moving those discussions along in good order, and we're hoping in the near future to provide a little bit more information on that progress.

Dallas McConnell
VP Corporate Finance, Cavvy Energy Limited

Thanks, Paul. Next question. Excellent quarter. Is there an opportunity to reduce the interest rate on your loan or refinance to a lower rate in the near term, given the quickly improving balance sheet and profitability?

Adam Gray
CFO, Cavvy Energy Limited

This is Adam. Thanks for the question. Our existing debt comes due in March and July of 2027. As we enter the back half of the year, we're going to start looking at opportunities to refinance that debt, maybe get into a structure that has a bit more flexibility and a lower interest rate to your point. It's certainly something that is on our mind, and stay tuned as we move into the winter months.

Dallas McConnell
VP Corporate Finance, Cavvy Energy Limited

Thanks, Adam. This is another one for Adam. Would you consider a small allocation to a normal course issuer bid within your capital allocation as leverage ratios continue to improve?

Adam Gray
CFO, Cavvy Energy Limited

I think that that's maybe a little bit further in the future. However, getting cash returned to shareholders is certainly something that we think very hard about and look forward to. I think getting leverage ratios down is my absolute number one priority in the short term. We have to think about how we're going to position this company for growth, but absolutely buying back shares or dividends in the future is something that's on the table.

Dallas McConnell
VP Corporate Finance, Cavvy Energy Limited

In the previous quarter conference call, there was a discussion on gas processing facility consolidation within the area of the Caroline facility. Has this occurred already given the large increase in third-party processing, or can you comment on this potential catalyst? I'll ask Paul to respond.

Paul Kunkel
CCO, Cavvy Energy Limited

Thanks for the question, Dallas. At this point in time, the numbers that show the increased processing at the Caroline gas plant do not include the impact of consolidation. We continue to work on potential consolidations and hope to have some information on that in the future.

Dallas McConnell
VP Corporate Finance, Cavvy Energy Limited

Next question. Is there any Cavvy LNG going to Kitimat via the Coastal GasLink pipeline? I'll send this to Darcy. Yeah.

Darcy Reding
President and CEO, Cavvy Energy Limited

That's a great question. Really, the custody transfer point is at the back end of our facility. What happens to the actual physical molecules at that point is not up to us, and we do not have any contractual arrangements to sell outside of the ECO market. The short answer would be no.

Dallas McConnell
VP Corporate Finance, Cavvy Energy Limited

Thanks, Darcy. One final question. Is there any strategy in place to increase investor awareness, be it engagement with an IR firm, management participation in conferences, et cetera? I'll ask Darcy to respond.

Darcy Reding
President and CEO, Cavvy Energy Limited

Yeah, thanks. Another great question. We actually have recently hired on a contract part-time basis an investor relations expert who has deep expertise over 20+ years in the industry. We're utilizing the network of contacts and the knowledge that that individual has. We also have a line of sight to start participating in industry conferences. In fact, we've just recently lined up to participate in the Schachter Energy Conference, which will be in Calgary on Saturday, October 18th. We hope to see people there, and we're evaluating participation in several other conferences as we move into the winter season and into 2026.

Dallas McConnell
VP Corporate Finance, Cavvy Energy Limited

Thank you, Darcy. More questions coming in, so we're just going to keep rolling. Next up, can you share your internal assumption for average sulfur prices in 2026 once the legacy contract rolls off? Secondly, are there any plans to increase sulfur production back to your 1,500 tons per day capability achieved a few years ago?

Paul Kunkel
CCO, Cavvy Energy Limited

I think as the market knows, there is no futures market for sulfur. There's no strip. We have deep relationships with sulfur marketers and sulfur buyers that we talk to on a daily, weekly basis, looking at 2026 and beyond. I don't want to set an internal price for sulfur for 2026 until we release guidance in the fall. We certainly look at a range of sulfur prices when we're sensitizing our budget and our cash flows for next year, and we're happy to share those in a few months.

Darcy Reding
President and CEO, Cavvy Energy Limited

I would perhaps add to that comment as well that we, of course, factor into our economics not only the price of ECO gas, but also the price of sulfur when we're looking at proactively shutting in or reestablishing production from our shut-in fields. We do take into account those things. We're also looking for creative ways that we can, on the back of the potential sulfur revenue and the value of sulfur, generate some activity in our core areas. For illustrative purposes, perhaps some of the opportunities most notably that we have in Southern Alberta can produce in terms of new drilling opportunities, can produce upwards of 150 metric tons per day of sulfur per well upon successful drilling. There is obviously a very large potential revenue stream associated with the sulfur on those drilling prospects.

We think that we can perhaps attract some investment capital or some partnership participation in exploiting opportunities like that in the future.

Dallas McConnell
VP Corporate Finance, Cavvy Energy Limited

Great. That is all the questions for today.

Operator

Okay, I'm showing no further questions on the telephone questions. At this time, I'll turn it back over to Mr. McConnell.

Dallas McConnell
VP Corporate Finance, Cavvy Energy Limited

Thanks to all of you for participating today. I very much want to thank everyone for their interest. If you have any further questions, please call us at 403-261-5900 or email us at investors@cavvyenergy.com. Thanks again, and we look forward to speaking to you soon.

Operator

Thank you. The conference call has now ended. Please disconnect your lines at this time. We thank you for your time.

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