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Earnings Call: Q1 2019

May 9, 2019

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the EcoSynthetix 2019 first quarter results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. Instructions will be provided for you at that time for questions. If anyone has any difficulty hearing the conference, you may press star zero for operator assistance at any time. Listeners are reminded that portions of today's discussion may contain forward-looking statements that reflect current views with respect to future events. Any such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements. For more information on EcoSynthetix risks and uncertainties related to these forward-looking statements, please refer to the company's annual information form dated March 4th, 2019, posted on SEDAR.

This morning's call is recorded on Thursday, May 9th, 2019, at 8:30 A.M. Eastern time. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Jeff MacDonald, Chief Executive Officer of EcoSynthetix. Please go ahead, sir.

Jeff MacDonald
CEO, EcoSynthetix

Good morning, and thank you for joining us today. Yesterday afternoon, we released our 2019 first quarter results, which you can find on our website at ecosynthetix.com. You can also download a copy of the slides that accompany today's call from our website, or alternatively, access them on the webcast. From a top-line perspective, it was a challenging quarter for us and certainly a setback relative to what we have achieved in the past two years, but we see it as temporary. Net sales were CAD 4.5 million, down 18%, based on lower volumes from lumpiness within our customer base and one European account that is no longer buying EcoSphere. Despite this pressure, the actions that we've taken during the past two years, including right-sizing the business overheads and continuing to be disciplined in terms of costs, position us better than ever before to withstand short-term pressure on sales.

Our adjusted EBITDA loss was CAD 145,000, an improvement of 83% compared to the prior year period, and we used just CAD 50,000 in cash for operations. We also continue to make progress with our key prospects conducting trials in wood composites and with our primary commercial account in that market. Based on the first quarter results, we remain committed to running the business profitably in 2019. One of the key drivers for success in the wood composites market is the pace of change for no added formaldehyde resins. That change is a function of demand or standards established among regulators, end customers, retailers, and manufacturers. We are seeing positive progress among regulators and manufacturers in Europe. In Germany, regulators are adopting more stringent standards for testing emission levels from wood composite panels. These changes will take effect in January 2020.

While Germany is independently taking this step, given the overlap in markets in Europe, the rest of the market is expected to follow suit with at least a matching voluntary standard. These changes are indicative of the focus on formaldehyde emissions by regulators globally as they continue to ratchet up the standard on the allowable emission levels. As a result, some of the more progressive manufacturers are mobilizing their efforts. The change agenda is also supported by major retailers like IKEA that have consistently communicated to their supply chain partners a desire to use more sustainable and healthy solutions. We believe our DuraBind resin is the leading bio-based alternative for wood composites manufacturers to the conventional formaldehyde-based binders used today. DuraBind, together with pMDI, replaces formaldehyde-based resins.

The price of pMDI continues to trade below normalized levels, which is helping to enable a DuraBind and pMDI binder system to be competitive to formaldehyde resins, and it's driving renewed interest from manufacturers that have trialed with us in the past when pMDI prices were higher. That covers the economic perspective. The second key element is the technical viability of our solution. We continue to make good progress on our trials with wood composites manufacturers. Our key prospects continue to see strong results in terms of runnability of the line and final testing of the product. We are running trials in the normal mainstream production of our prospects. In short, our results are better than ever with our key prospects. Our trials are primarily focused on the particleboard segment of the wood composites market, with some activity in medium-density fiberboard.

The smaller segment of oriented strand board is less active today, given the attractive price of pMDI at this stage. Based on our trials, it is clear to us that DuraBind is the best performing, most economical bio-based solution for particleboard available today. In terms of our commercial relationships, SWISS KRONO continues to march ahead with the agenda that they announced last September. They are embarking on a series of market launches for their no added formaldehyde product line. The BE.YOND product launch is one of their four key themes that has anchored their recent marketing activity, which speaks to the prominence and importance they're placing on healthier solutions. SWISS KRONO is positioning the BE.YOND furniture panel as the most environmentally friendly board of its kind on the market, with an emission level equivalent to trees. This technology is enabled by our DuraBind resin.

SWISS KRONO is pleased with the initial response they are receiving at this stage of the rollout. They're building awareness within their B2B channel, but it's still early days in the overall program. In terms of our marketing activity, later this month, we will be participating at the LIGNA trade show for wood manufacturers held every two years in Germany. We're excited for the opportunity to engage and share our DuraBind progress with manufacturers. We will be featuring new aspects of our resin, which include increased tack and improved speed, as our R&D investment continues to enhance our offering. Given the favorable market dynamics for pMDI pricing and the heightened awareness for lower emission levels, it's a great time to be in front of the key manufacturers. Turning to paper and paperboard, the macro environment in the paper market continues to be challenging for manufacturers.

The traditional coated paper market is experiencing lower demand. As evidenced, during the quarter, one of the largest North American manufacturers shuttered a mill. This mill wasn't using our EcoSphere binder, but its closure is indicative of what manufacturers are facing. Among the broader paper manufacturing market, the pricing dynamics of oil and SB latex continue to play an important role as it relates to new customer wins for EcoSphere. With oil trading in the CAD 40 range in late 2018 and early 2019, it created a drag on SB latex pricing. This constrained our ability to offer sufficient savings by switching to EcoSphere. With oil returning above CAD 60 in April, the underlying fundamentals should improve. At these levels, we generally expect upward pressure in the near term for SB latex.

As I mentioned earlier, we experienced lower volumes in the first quarter, due in part to destocking of inventory in Asia Pacific. We continue to view Asia Pacific as an important long-term market for EcoSphere, with robust future opportunities, and we have seen buying patterns normalize since the close of Q1. In North America and Europe, our highest priority prospects are in the specialty paper segment, where manufacturers are searching for sustainable alternatives to conventional petroleum-based binders. We believe paper remains an important foundational market for us. With the changes we've made in the cost structure of the business, our paper sales provide a critical mass from which to grow. We believe opportunities exist to expand our paper business, but our number one priority is successfully penetrating the wood composites market with our DuraBind resin.

To that end, last month, we hosted the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food and the Minister of Democratic Institutions from the federal government at our Centre of Innovation in Burlington. At the event, they announced new funding from the Canadian Agricultural Partnership to support renewable materials. Under the program, we've been awarded up to CAD 2 million for additional development of our DuraBind resin. Research and development activities remain a core focus for our team. The versatility of our biopolymer platform, from which we commercialize EcoSphere and DuraBind, provides additional potential and new opportunities, both from the perspective of enhancing our existing products, as well as expanding into new areas with focused opportunities alongside partners with expertise in the relevant end markets. While our priority will remain on our commercial products, we also recognize the importance of laying the groundwork for new opportunities.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Rob to review the financial highlights.

Rob Haire
CFO, EcoSynthetix

Thanks, Jeff. Good morning. From a top-line perspective, net sales were CAD 4.5 million in Q1 2019 compared to CAD 5.4 million in the same period in 2018. This 18% decrease was primarily due to lower sales volumes of CAD 1.3 million or 23% due to unfavorable market conditions. Sales were impacted by CAD 600,000 due to inventory destocking at a distributor in Asia Pacific, which has since normalized. Sales were also impacted by CAD 400,000 due to the loss of business at a European paperboard mill. These decreases were partially offset by higher average selling prices due to favorable customer mix, which improved sales by CAD 300,000 or 5% in the quarter. Gross profit was CAD 1 million in the quarter, down CAD 60,000 compared to the same period in 2018.

Net of manufacturing depreciation, gross profit as a percentage of sales was 25.5% in the quarter compared to 23.4% in the same period in 2018. The increase was primarily due to higher average selling prices due to favorable customer mix. adjusted EBITDA loss was CAD 145,000 for the quarter, an improvement of 83% compared to a loss of CAD 875,000 in the same period in 2018. We continue to be disciplined in our approach to cost management. SG&A expenses were CAD 1.2 million in the quarter, compared to CAD 1.5 million in the same period in 2018. SG&A includes share-based compensation expense. Excluding this item, SG&A was CAD 1 million in the quarter, compared to CAD 1.3 million in the same period in 2018. R&D expenses were CAD 450,000 in the quarter, compared to CAD 750,000 in the same period in 2018.

The changes were primarily due to lower people-related costs and discretionary spending, as well as a CAD 60,000 beneficial impact from the adoption of IFRS 16 for lease accounting in the current period. Our R&D efforts continue to focus on further enhancing value for our existing product lines and expanding our addressable opportunities. We are confident that our current investment level is appropriate to deliver significant growth. As of March 31, 2019, we had CAD 44.3 million in cash and short-term investments, compared to CAD 44.8 million as of December 31, 2018. Since April 2018, the company acquired and canceled just over 2 million common shares for an average cost of CAD 1.88 per share under our normal course issuer bid. We have announced the renewal of our NCIB yesterday and intend to be active with share buybacks in 2019.

We have more than sufficient cash reserves to execute our growth strategy and will remain disciplined and manage our cash responsibly while continuing to invest in our long-term growth strategy. With that, I'll turn it back to Jeff for closing comments.

Jeff MacDonald
CEO, EcoSynthetix

Thanks, Rob. We're committed to delivering profitable growth while investing in product development and our sales platform. The headwinds we encountered in the paper and paperboard market during the first quarter were frustrating, but it is clear from our bottom line results that the business is in a far better position to deal with short-term market dynamics than we were in years past. In my view, the challenges we faced in the first quarter are short term and not concerning in the bigger picture. The primary question is the pace of change in the wood composites market. It can be challenging to predict. How are we managing that aspect of the equation? We've positioned the business in the best possible way to take advantage of change with the best available product that competes effectively, both economically and on technical viability.

We are engaged with strategic accounts that have conviction, like SWISS KRONO. These accounts and prospects are differentiated. They are investing resources both operationally and from a marketing perspective, and they have the necessary retail pull to deliver on an agenda of change. In the past few months, we've hosted a series of stakeholders at our Centre of Innovation here in Burlington, including commercial customers, prospects, strategic partners, government officials, and investors. These are long-term stakeholders that are each important in their own way to our commercial and overall success as a business. Each time we host one of these visits and share the progress we've made, the stakeholders depart emboldened in the potential our sustainable polymers offer. We appreciate the trust and the patience that our shareholders have shown, and I look forward to continuing to update you as we move forward.

With that, I'll turn it back to the operator and open the line for questions.

Operator

If you would like to ask a question at this time, please press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press the pound key. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Once again, that's star 1 if you would like to ask a question. Once again, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad.

Jeff MacDonald
CEO, EcoSynthetix

Ravil, I do see that you're in the queue. If you want to go ahead, we'll pause for a couple more seconds here.

Speaker 6

Okay.

Operator

Ravil Apfel, your line is open.

Speaker 6

Can you guys hear me?

Jeff MacDonald
CEO, EcoSynthetix

Yeah, we can hear you now.

Speaker 6

Okay, perfect. Thank you.

Jeff MacDonald
CEO, EcoSynthetix

Sorry, not sure what happened there.

Speaker 6

Yeah, no worries. I'll just start off with the average selling price. My understanding was that when SB latex prices come down or pMDI prices come down, you might lower your prices as well just to remain more competitive. How come we saw an improvement in average selling price?

Jeff MacDonald
CEO, EcoSynthetix

Yeah, it's a bit of an enigma. We do expect, and we have seen downward pressure where we're tied to SB latex monomers, and we would normally expect that in a lower oil price environment. We've definitely seen that. What was bigger in terms of impact was the mix of our customer business. We had some products that were at the higher end of our margin range, where we had good volumes in the quarter, and geographically, we were overweight in markets where our margins and our pricing is stronger than in markets where we had some weaker sales. The micro stuff kind of outweighed the macro that we would normally expect to see. You're right on in your assumption that as oil goes down, SB latex goes down with it, and that puts our products under pricing pressure.

Where we've had formulaic pricing, that has been the case. Those micro factors of geography and product mix overshadowed that in the quarter, which is kind of a strange view on it, but that's what happened.

Speaker 6

No, that makes sense. Can you remind us what are your products?

Jeff MacDonald
CEO, EcoSynthetix

Yeah. Where we're participating in specialty paper applications, some of our products for adhesives, for example, and some of our, let's say, very new offerings for the personal care space, for example, those would be at the higher end of our range. Whereas coated paper is the part of the market that is affected most by oil prices and tends to be, especially in this environment, the lower end of our margin range.

Speaker 6

Got it. Then, just moving on to IKEA. Is it possible for you guys to comment on if you guys did any testing for IKEA in the quarter?

Jeff MacDonald
CEO, EcoSynthetix

We can't comment specifically on testing. I can say that we made progress in the quarter. Progress that we're excited about. We are not in a position, we're not able to disclose details on what we've done together with IKEA, but we're pleased with the progress that we've been making.

Speaker 6

Perfect. Finally, just on the personal care products, can you give us some update on what's going on in that vertical?

Jeff MacDonald
CEO, EcoSynthetix

We're going to go right past wood and paper.

Speaker 6

Yeah, exactly.

Jeff MacDonald
CEO, EcoSynthetix

It's a fun one to talk about, so I get the interest. For those, I guess, that have been to our Centre of Innovation here in Burlington, you've seen some of the products, the Aveda product that contains our ingredient as an important part of those products. It's been very small for us. We're excited that there is a very large global chemical player that's taken our product under their wing and has formulated us into things that they're offering to the market. We're really excited about it. It's very early days. I think the appeal of it may be part of why you asked is you can see how it makes its way onto the shelves in products that we're familiar with.

Speaker 6

Absolutely. Is this still a pre-revenue opportunity, or are you guys already recognizing revenues from it?

Jeff MacDonald
CEO, EcoSynthetix

Well, you've seen the Aveda product here. We've had, I'll say, drops of revenue for that product over the past couple of years. We don't consider the impact of this new venture together with the large chemical supplier to be material at this point. We're excited and hopeful for it, but it's not meaningful enough for us at this point.

Speaker 6

Perfect. I'll get back in the queue. Thank you.

Jeff MacDonald
CEO, EcoSynthetix

Thanks, Ravil.

Operator

Once again, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. We have a question from Geoff Gilbert with Inukshuk. Your line is open.

Geoff Gilbert
Analyst, Inukshuk

Good morning, Jeff. Congratulations on the discipline. My question has been asked on other products, so I will get back in queue as well.

Jeff MacDonald
CEO, EcoSynthetix

Okay, thanks, Yuri.

Operator

Once again, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star one. We have a question from Kenan Lucas with Harbert Management. Your line is open.

Kenan Lucas
Analyst, Harbert Management

Hey, guys. I'm just a little confused because you said this product was positively impacting the margins because of the pricing, but it's also not significant. I wonder if you could clarify.

Jeff MacDonald
CEO, EcoSynthetix

Morning, Kenan. Yes. Thanks. I probably confused things there. Ravil asked for examples of things that would be at the higher end of our margin range, and so I was listing examples, and I'll just say were the personal care product to be material, then it would have a material impact on margins, but it's not.

Kenan Lucas
Analyst, Harbert Management

Okay. It's other personal care with, I guess, presumably with Aveda that's impacting the margins positively, not with this large chemical partner.

Jeff MacDonald
CEO, EcoSynthetix

No, no. That did not have a material impact in the quarter. Not at all. It's really related only to customer mix and underlying product mix within those customers.

Kenan Lucas
Analyst, Harbert Management

Okay. All right. Thank you.

Jeff MacDonald
CEO, EcoSynthetix

Thanks, Kenan.

Operator

Once again, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. We do not have any telephone questions at this time. I will turn the call over to the presenters.

Jeff MacDonald
CEO, EcoSynthetix

Okay. Thanks, everyone, for joining us today, and we look forward to updating you again soon.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.