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Earnings Call: Q4 2025

Mar 6, 2026

Operator

Afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Ensign Energy Services Inc. fourth quarter 2025 results conference call. At this time, all lines are in a listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press star zero for the operator. This call is being recorded today, Friday, March 6, 2026. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mike Gray, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir.

Mike Gray
CFO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Thank you. Good morning and welcome to Ensign Energy Services fourth quarter conference call and webcast. On our call today, Bob Geddes, President and CEO, and myself, Mike Gray, Chief Financial Officer, will review Ensign's fourth quarter highlights, its financial results, followed by operational update and outlook. We'll open the call for questions after that. Our discussions today may include forward-looking statements based upon current expectations that involve several business risks and uncertainties. The factors that could cause results to differ materially include, but are not limited to, political, economic, and market conditions, crude oil and natural gas prices, foreign currency fluctuations, weather conditions, the company's defensive lawsuits, the ability of oil and gas companies to pay accounts receivable balances or other unforeseen conditions which could impact the demand for services supplied by the company. Additionally, our discussion today may refer to non-GAAP financial measures such as Adjusted EBITDA.

Please see our fourth quarter earnings release and SEDAR+ filing for more information on forward-looking statements and the company's use of non-GAAP financial measures. On that, I will pass the call back to Bob.

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Thanks, Mike. Good morning or afternoon, everyone, wherever you're at. Some introductory comments. The fourth quarter of 2025 provides a great deal to discuss, both in terms of reflecting on the full year's performance and looking ahead to the opportunities and challenges that lie in front of us. The Ensign team completed the 2025 year with results that exceeded analyst estimates, both for the quarter and the full year, and most importantly, we're able to clip off an additional $80 million of debt in 2025. The Canadian business unit led the way with year-over-year EBITDA gains while the U.S. battled great headwinds. In 2025, the team was successful in getting the operators to fund roughly half of the CAD 48 million in upgrades executed in 2025. These rigs are all tied up now on long-term contracts.

The team ended the year expanding our forward long-time contract book to CAD 1.2 billion of forward contract coverage, with 60% of the fleet contracted forward. Our international business unit, which operates in Venezuela, Argentina, Australia, Oman, Bahrain, and Kuwait, had a share of ups and downs, which I will expand on later. For a deeper dive into the fourth quarter and full year 2025, I'll turn it over back to Mike. Mike?

Mike Gray
CFO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Thanks, Bob. Ensign's results for the fourth quarter and 2025 year on reflects the benefits of our diversified operational geographic footprint. With the recent volatility in commodity prices and the outlook, the outlook is constructive, and the operating environment for the oil and natural gas industry continues to support relatively steady demand for oil field services. Total operating days were up in the fourth quarter of 2025 by 1%. The United States operations saw an increase of 14%, while the Canadian international operations reported a decrease of 8%, each one compared to the fourth quarter of 2024. For the year ended December 31st, 2025, total operating days were down by 3%.

The United States operations saw an increase of 2%, while the Canadian and international operations saw a decrease of 3% and 15%, respectively, compared with the year ended December 31st, 2024. The company generated revenue of CAD 418.8 million in the fourth quarter of 2025, a 2% decrease compared with revenue of CAD 426.5 million generated in the fourth quarter of the prior year. For the year ended December 31st, 2025, the company generated revenue of CAD 1.64 billion, a 3% decrease compared with revenue of CAD 1.68 billion generated in the prior year.

Adjusted EBITDA for the fourth quarter of 2025 was CAD 107.5 million, lower by 5% than Adjusted EBITDA of CAD 113.4 million in the fourth quarter of 2024. Adjusted EBITDA for the year ended December 31st, 2025 was CAD 389.8 million, a 13% decrease compared to Adjusted EBITDA of CAD 450.1 million generated in the year ended December 31st, 2024. The 2025 decrease in Adjusted EBITDA is due to the decrease year-over-year activity caused by customer consolidation, economic uncertainty, and volatile commodity prices. Depreciation expense for the year decreased by 3% to CAD 345.4 million, compared to CAD 355.8 million for the year ended 2024.

Interest expense decreased by 23% for the year ended December 31st, 2025, compared with the same period in 2024. The decrease in expense compared to the prior period is the result of lower debt levels and reduced effective interest rates. Offsetting the decrease is the negative exchange translation on U.S. denominated debt. G&A expense for the fourth quarter of 2025 was CAD 14.5 million, compared with CAD 13.1 million in the fourth quarter of 2024. G&A expense totaled CAD 55.5 million for the year ending December 31st, 2025, compared with CAD 57.4 million for the same period in 2024. The G&A expense decreased for the year due to non-recurring expenses incurred in the prior year. Offsetting the decrease in is the annual wage increases and the negative 2% translation effect upon converting U.S. denominated expenses.

Net capital expenditures for the fourth quarter of 2025 totaled CAD 35.3 million, compared to net capital expenditures of CAD 22.3 million in the corresponding period of 2024. Net capital expenditures for the calendar year 2025 totaled CAD 183.7 million, consisting of CAD 48.1 million in upgrade capital, CAD 146.3 million in maintenance capital, offset by proceeds of CAD 10.6 million for equipment disposals. The company has budgeted maintenance capital expenditures for 2026 of approximately CAD 161.4 million and CAD 32.8 million of selective upgrade capital, of which CAD 24 million is customer funded. Debt repayments against debt totaled CAD 80.3 million for the year, we saw a total net decrease by CAD 105 million due to foreign exchange as well as debt repayments.

With the reductions in Adjusted EBITDA, the stated debt reduction target of CAD 600 million will now likely be achieved in the first half of 2026. The revision is the result of the current industry conditions and the reinvestment of capital expenditures. If the industry conditions change, this target could be increased or decreased. On that note, I'll pass the call back to Bob Geddes.

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Thanks, Mike. Let's start with a quick reflection by region for 2025. The fourth quarter was quite active for us right across all our world as we methodically grew rig count in the high-spec triples and high-spec single rig type categories in North America. Each area had differing market dynamics at play. In Canada, we were off 3% on activity year-over-year whilst being up year-over-year on EBITDA. This is a result of our Canadian business unit continuing to focus on delivering high-spec rigs with high performance crews. In fact, one of our new ADR HSS set a record drilling 2,500 m in a 24-hour period. In the U.S., the market forces were much tougher, keeping rigs active meant spot pricing was falling.

Rigs that have consistent work remained active and with little rate degradation. Once again, the U.S. operations team outperformed their peer group and placed 10 Ensign rigs in the top 20 across the entire U.S. for outstanding performance metrics. Our international business unit was relatively calm through 2025, and then that changed quickly at the beginning of the year. More on that in a moment. Current operational updates starting with Canada. Whilst industry was down 10% year-over-year in the first quarter of 2026, we peaked at 51 and enjoy 43 drilling rigs active today in Canada. As we head into breakup, we expect around 20 or so rigs over breakup, similar to the prior year.

We are currently upgrading one of the high-spec singles we recently brought up from California and expect to have it contracted long term for rates in the mid 20s all in. That rig should be spudding its first well by the summer. The value proposition is still valid for the client as we continue to perform by improving drilling efficiency, offsetting any rate increases. Because our rig equipment is being run closer to its technical limits more and more, rate increases are quite justified to offset the higher operating costs. We see strong support for the high-spec triples in Canada, they operate in the low 30s all in. We continue to see the Canadian market adapt our EDGE drilling rig automation more and more every quarter.

This provides a high margin bolt-on incremental revenue stream of anywhere from $1,000-$2,600 a day across the high-spec triples generally, and now we are deploying onto our high-spec singles. We continue to address any upgrades that operators request by assisting the capital upgrade be paid for by the operator with a notional rate increase, or we adjust the day rate incrementally in order to achieve a one-year payout or less on the incremental capital with the incremental rate increase. In the U.S., we mentioned in our last quarterly call, our rigs continued to drill more footage per day, albeit we are finding that the double-digit rig efficiency gains of years past have slowed into the single digits as we get closer to the technical limits of the rig equipment. This is good news and an indication that we're at or near a trough.

Operators now focus on continued duplication of their best wells. Again, we mentioned on our last call, our position hasn't changed. Most operators are starting to look at tier two acreage as we move along into the future. We also saw the U.S. hit record oil production close to 14 million barrels per day. With the technical limits of rigs establishing somewhat of a ceiling and with tier one acreage diminishing, we will need to see rig count move up if we're to hang on to 14 million barrels of oil production. Current oil prices certainly help this construct. In the U.S. today, we have 38 high-spec Ensign rigs, mostly high-spec triples, out of our fleet of 70 high-spec ADRs operating across the U.S. from California to the Rockies and down into the Permian.

Our busiest operating area is, of course, the Permian, where we run roughly 26 rigs daily and which we own 9% of that market share. We continue to increase our market share in the U.S., the result of our high performance rigs and crews in concert with our Edge Drilling Solutions technology. We saw our California business unit almost double its rig count in 2025 from five to eight, and we expect that we will stay at that level through 2026. Our directional drilling business unit, which is essentially a mud motor rental business that utilizes proprietary technology, continues to provide some of the best motors with high quality rebuilds and the longest runs in the Rockies. We're expecting 2026 to be very similar to 2025 there.

On the international front, we have a fleet of 25 high-spec rigs that operate in six different countries outside of North America, of which 13 of those 25 are active today. At this point in time, our seven Middle East rigs are still operating under either standby with crews or at full operational rate. This is, of course, a day-to-day situation which may change at any point in time. Area is what we call on yellow alert, with safety of the personnel and security of the assets most important. In Kuwait, we have been successful in contract extensions on both 3,000 horsepower ADRs, taking us out into mid-2026. We started back in Venezuela and now have both rigs operating. The only two drilling rigs operating in Venezuela, I will point out.

As you know, there is no lack of excitement in Venezuela these days, and we'll see how this area develops. In any case, Ensign has a product to fill operators' demands, and we have the on-the-ground experience that very few have in the area, thanks to our strong Venezuelan team. In Argentina, we have both our ADR 2,000 horsepower super spec triples under contract with demand possible for additional rigs in the area. In Oman, the two rigs we have undergoing extensive upgrades are busting on time with the first rig now operational and the second rig planned for April commissioning. This will add to the three ADRs currently under contract in Oman and bring us to five rigs active in the country once the last rig is commissioned.

The current Middle East situation will of course create possible delays in the commissioning of this fifth rig in Oman, notwithstanding the general concerns in the Middle East region today. In Australia, we have four rigs active, going to five by the summer. With strong bid activity, which we feel will take us to six rigs by year-end. Moving to well servicing, back in North America, we have a fleet of 85 well service rigs in North America, 38 in Canada, of which we operate 15 to 20 on any given day. Plus, we have 47 well service rigs, primarily in the Rockies and California, where we operate with high utilization rates consistently. Our U.S. well servicing business unit, which is again focused primarily on the Rockies and California, has come out of the gate stronger than last year and is expecting a stronger year than 2025.

Our Canadian business unit focuses primarily on the heavy oil market and has been very steady with rates increasing basically in line with cost inflation, protecting margins. Moving to the technology side, our EDGE AUTOPILOT drilling rig control system. In 2025, we increased our EDGE AUTOPILOT installs by 15% and now have our EDGE AUTOPILOT systems on 60% of our rigs globally. Our EDGE drilling rig controls product line continues to expand with increasing adoption of products like our ADS, Automated Drilling System, which we doubled the number of rigs we have deployed this technology in the 2025 year. In the last call, we reported that we successfully beta tested our Ensign EDGE ATC, auto toolface control, in conjunction with the DGS.

This paves the way for seamless control of automated directional drilling for those operators who utilize remote operating centers and utilize in-house DGS systems, directional guidance systems. I'm happy to report that we are now fully commercial with our Edge ATC and are charging that out on five rigs today. We have also initiated the development of an Ensign EDGE state-of-the-art DGS, directional guidance system. With the help of AI, our development team was able to develop a DGS ready for beta testing in less than a year and for a fraction of the cost of other DGS developments. Happy to report that we're now beta testing this on one of our super spec ADR 1500s in the U.S. With this, we'll be able to provide a complete and comprehensive drilling control system offering all the bells and whistles.

With that, I'll point the call back to the operator for questions.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press star followed by the number one on your touchtone phone. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press star followed by the number two. If you're using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. Once again, it is star one if you wish to ask a question. Your first question comes from the line of Keith Mackey from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Keith MacKey
Director in Global Equity Research and Oil & Gas Services, RBC Capital Markets

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Maybe just to start off, Bob, you know, if you asked me where will oil be at, you know, in one year from now, if you asked me that about a year ago, I would have said I wouldn't have said $90. But at the same time, you know, we're hearing from most E&P operators in the U.S. and Canada that it's not necessarily going to affect the activity levels, you know, with prices even being where they are. Question for you is, what's your view on that? How long do you think it takes of high prices before we start to see an activity improvement, in the U.S. based on, you know, the oil price spike that we've been seeing of late?

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Yeah. Well, I agree with your summary there, basically that oil companies will be takers of this blip in oil pricing. I don't think it will, like, affect activity too much. I would suggest, though, that if it continues for six months, I think, it will start to attract capital, and people will go after more drilling. That's been the plan. The question is, as you point out, I mean, last week, would I have thought oil would be $90 today? No. But-

Keith MacKey
Director in Global Equity Research and Oil & Gas Services, RBC Capital Markets

Yeah.

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

That's our sense on it. Short-term, I see very little impact. If it stays for six months, I think it, there's enough capital going after it, that'll make a good return that, people will start to drill more, for sure.

Keith MacKey
Director in Global Equity Research and Oil & Gas Services, RBC Capital Markets

Yeah. Got it. What about pricing? Like, you know, maybe activity doesn't change in the next couple of months, but does it give you and your competitors a bit more of a leg to stand on when you go to renew contracts, now that, you know, customers have healthier cash flows? Like, do you think this is at least positive for pricing, or is it neutral for pricing, would you say?

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Our pricing is always dictated by the supply of drilling rigs. There's no question, as we're getting more calls and getting more bids, we tend to bid up.

Keith MacKey
Director in Global Equity Research and Oil & Gas Services, RBC Capital Markets

Yeah. Got it.

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

We'll see. We'll see. Yeah.

Keith MacKey
Director in Global Equity Research and Oil & Gas Services, RBC Capital Markets

Got it. Okay. Just one more for me on Venezuela. Certainly, you know, you're the only ones kinda working there now with the two rigs running.

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Mm-hmm.

Keith MacKey
Director in Global Equity Research and Oil & Gas Services, RBC Capital Markets

Can you just give us a bit of a summary on the state of the environment there, with respect to, you know, the rigs that you have there, how many rigs you have, how many could work, what types of bidding or at least inquiries that you're getting now? And what's your sense of how many rigs competitors might have, might have on the ground as well?

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Yeah. Well, that's a big question. Just to unpack that a little bit. We've got two drilling rigs that have been active. I mean, they're great rigs. I've been down there not recently. There are, of course, over the last five years, a lot of the U.S. competitors have disappeared, been chased away or whatever. There hasn't been much activity. The rigs that are on the ground are not in very good shape, if any shape at all, outside of the rigs that we have running. We've got kind of three rigs, two drilling rigs and kind of a deeper workover rig in the country.

We've got assets that we can deploy from the U.S. that can meet the needs. You know, we're under current conversation with some clients on that.

Keith MacKey
Director in Global Equity Research and Oil & Gas Services, RBC Capital Markets

Got it. Do you have an estimate of how many rigs you think could be deployable from the U.S. to Argentina in your fleet? Or is it too early to say?

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

To Venezuela?

Keith MacKey
Director in Global Equity Research and Oil & Gas Services, RBC Capital Markets

Yeah.

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

To Venezuela or Argentina? To Venezuela?

Keith MacKey
Director in Global Equity Research and Oil & Gas Services, RBC Capital Markets

Yeah.

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Yeah. Let's put it this way. We've got capacity, we could send 10 if we needed to. I think Venezuela develops slowly. There's a lot going on, but it's very active. A lot of OFAC licenses have been granted to various operators, they've been in touch. I think it develops slowly. It's a tough place to do business as one can imagine. Right now, it seems to be a little bit of a tea party compared to what's going on in the Middle East.

Keith MacKey
Director in Global Equity Research and Oil & Gas Services, RBC Capital Markets

Mm-hmm. Got it. Understood. Thanks very much for the color.

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Yeah. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Aaron MacNeil from TD Cowen. Your line is now open.

Aaron MacNeil
Director and Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Hey, morning, all. Thanks for taking my questions. Just more of a clarification, one on the Kuwait rigs that are rolling off contract mid this year.

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Mm-hmm.

Aaron MacNeil
Director and Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Is this something that you reasonably expect to get renewed again, once the contracts expire? Or at this point, are you trying to find sort of new homes for them?

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

The operator has provided some indication that they might have another well behind each one of these rigs. It's typically how they move along. They'll get close to, you know, 60 days from when the rig is gonna be complete, and they find another well. That's how we've been operating the last year or two. They provided some indication, but we don't know. With everything happening in the Middle East, everything is up in the air.

Aaron MacNeil
Director and Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Gotcha. You know, we saw Tourmaline cut capital earlier this week, not materially.

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Mm-hmm.

Aaron MacNeil
Director and Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

ARC also recently removed Attachie phase II from their long-term plans. How are you thinking about sort of that Deep Basin and liquids rich Montney outlook in Canada that may be starting to see some cracks in the armor given gas prices? Like, any updated views there?

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Yeah, gas prices are not helping. I got to think that liquids pricing has got to be helping. But, yeah. I'm not too surprised. This is the dilemma Canada has, of course, is takeaway capacity. That's another conversation. But, yeah, we are victims of gas prices for sure. Yeah

Aaron MacNeil
Director and Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Fair enough. Maybe I'll sneak one more in to build on Keith's question. In the event that you would mobilize rigs to Venezuela, what's the rig spec that makes sense for the market? How would you think about sort of staffing and sort of, you know, other sort of soft issues in the market?

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Well, yeah, we've been in Venezuela over 25 years. Almost all of our people in Venezuela are Venezuelans. There are some people coming back. We've got a, you know, a strong franchise there. The type of rigs depends on the area where we operate. They're typically 1,000, 1,500 horsepower type rigs, mostly 1,500. That's kind of the rig for the Orinoco Belt.

Aaron MacNeil
Director and Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Gotcha. Thanks. I'll turn it back.

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Okay.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Josef Schachter from Schachter Energy Research. Your line is now open.

Josef Schachter
President, Schachter Energy Research

Great. Thanks very much for taking my questions, Bob and Mike. First one on the debt side. You knocked down $100 million to that $918.6 million. How should we be looking at debt going forward? You mentioned that, in the commentary that, you know, the $600 million target should be reached during 2026 first half. If you go back, if we go back to periods when you had $80, $90 oil, let's say post-war, 2008, 2009, we get there, in 2012, you had EBITDA $561 million. In 2014, you had $537 million. If you look at and say something like you do have EBITDA 20 or 29 or $500 million, would your target be to get to 1-to-1 debt to EBITDA?

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Mike?

Mike Gray
CFO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Yeah. I mean, ideally that one and a half is really the target. Yeah, I think once we kinda get to that, then conversations would start to change. Yeah, that would be the target that we'd be looking at.

Josef Schachter
President, Schachter Energy Research

About $100 million a year then if for debt reduction is still something to keep in mind for models?

Mike Gray
CFO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Yeah, for sure. We're still laser-focused on the debt reduction.

Josef Schachter
President, Schachter Energy Research

Super. At what point would you be starting to look at increasing the amount of NCIB versus debt reduction? Is there a number that you need to reach, CAD 700 million, CAD 800 million? Is there some number out there that you need before you could start looking at the mix of allocation of capital pre funds flow?

Mike Gray
CFO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

There's a minimum liquidity on the credit facility that we have, that we'd have to meet first. We'd probably. Like I said, the conversations at the board level would need to take place on what would happen. Like you said, the next year or two years is really focused on continued debt reduction.

Josef Schachter
President, Schachter Energy Research

Last one for me. Given we're seeing insurance companies pulling insurance coverage for shipping, is there any concern about your rigs in the Middle East, given they're in the zone of drone attacks, that insurance could be an issue or the cost could get up to the point where putting the rigs in the field it doesn't make sense?

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Yeah. We've got, you know, we don't talk in detail about our insurance programs, but we do have insurance. We've been operating in the Middle East for long periods of time and have good protocol on keeping most importantly personnel safe and then equipment. Where we're at in Oman and Kuwait, there's been a little bit of action, but not much. We're basically both green in that area. Bahrain, we're what we call yellow alert. The rigs are in Oman and Kuwait are still drilling and in Bahrain we're on basically standby with crews. It's changing every day. Tomorrow may be a different story.

Josef Schachter
President, Schachter Energy Research

Thanks for answering my questions.

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Thanks, Josef.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Tim Monachello from ATB Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Tim Monachello
Managing Director in Institutional Equity Research, Energy and Industrial Services, and Technology, ATB Capital Markets

Hey, good morning. I just wanted to start, I guess, with margins. They came in a little bit above my model. I was thinking perhaps this might be an impact of either, you know, rig mix and business mix, maybe also just the impact of adding some of these EDGE automation systems to the fleet over time. Do you have an expectation for what the margin lift could be in sort of an otherwise flat environment for pricing, just based on those EDGE automation systems?

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Yeah

Tim Monachello
Managing Director in Institutional Equity Research, Energy and Industrial Services, and Technology, ATB Capital Markets

... technology additions?

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Yeah. We've got... I mean, we're building our EDGE rollout at about 15% per year. We have it on 60% of our fleet today, that is active. We have 160 rigs. We're adding about 10 per year, with anywhere between CAD 1,000-CAD 1,500 a day on average. And it's all margin. That's all margin. You can build that into the model pretty quickly there.

Tim Monachello
Managing Director in Institutional Equity Research, Energy and Industrial Services, and Technology, ATB Capital Markets

Okay. That's helpful. Then, most of my questions have been answered. I guess I wanna dive in a little bit into what's going on in California. It sounds like there's at least some rumblings of more oil and gas-friendly policies being pushed in California. Are you seeing any changes to, I guess, your customers' expectations or activity levels or expectations for what their activity levels will be going forward in California?

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

A little bit, yeah. I mean, we basically are running eight rigs now. We were down to about four or five there at the beginning of 2025. It is changing. It's opening up a little bit, and I'll say that tongue in cheek for California. They're starting to realize that they do need a little bit of oil and gas. Operators that are in the area are able to get some permits that are allowing them to get after some drilling along with some P&A activity, which we benefit from on our service rigs. We also run a bunch of service rigs in California.

We're the biggest, one of the biggest in California as well on the service rig side, the biggest on the drilling side. Yeah, it's California, but it is a little more happy face than sad face, I'd say.

Tim Monachello
Managing Director in Institutional Equity Research, Energy and Industrial Services, and Technology, ATB Capital Markets

Okay. Do you think you'll see stronger activity levels in California on average in 2026 than 2025? Or at least.

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

I think it can... I think we stay steady. Yeah. I think we stay steady at eight, through 2026, is my thinking.

Tim Monachello
Managing Director in Institutional Equity Research, Energy and Industrial Services, and Technology, ATB Capital Markets

Ensign has historically been a little bit underrepresented in gas basins in the U.S. Are you know, making any progress in moving into gas basins or getting more activity levels in the Haynesville or talking to customers in that basin?

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Yeah. Yeah. We're seeing some bids coming out into the Haynesville, the Eagle Ford. We've got, you know, we've got a few idle rigs that can take those bids. Yeah, it's slowly moving, for sure. I mean, gas prices down there are a little different than up here, right?

Tim Monachello
Managing Director in Institutional Equity Research, Energy and Industrial Services, and Technology, ATB Capital Markets

Okay. Just in terms of Venezuela and the prospect of perhaps moving some idle equipment into the region for the next few years, I guess what type of contract structures would you require for that? What type of assurances, would you be looking for to be able to, you know, deploy incremental capital or equipment into that region?

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Well, you know, Venezuela is still a risky market. It's been de-risked to some extent, but it's still a risky market. We would look for long-term contracts of at least three years to five years, and with, you know, some coverage on, you know, getting us in and getting us out. We work in U.S. dollars in Venezuela, obviously. That's about all I want to disclose, but, you know, we've been working there for 25 years, so we know how to run the business there, and the commercial side of it well.

Tim Monachello
Managing Director in Institutional Equity Research, Energy and Industrial Services, and Technology, ATB Capital Markets

Okay. That's great. I'll turn it back. Appreciate the details.

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Yeah, thanks.

Operator

As a reminder, if you have a question or any follow-up, please press star one. Our next question comes from the line of Parvin Mamedov from Equinox. Your line is now open.

Parvin Mamedov
Research Analyst, Equinox

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats on the release. I had two specific questions. If I look at the international rig, rigs that you have, I think it's around like low teens, and then half of it is in the Middle East. Should I think about, in terms of revenue, also roughly similar breakdown, 50% of international revenues are in the Middle East and the rest is split between other markets?

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Mike, do you wanna handle that one?

Mike Gray
CFO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Yeah, that'd be appropriate.

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Hello?

Parvin Mamedov
Research Analyst, Equinox

Hello?

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Hello.

Mike Gray
CFO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Yeah. I said that would be appropriate.

Parvin Mamedov
Research Analyst, Equinox

Oh, okay. sorry, I didn't hear that.

Mike Gray
CFO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Sure.

Parvin Mamedov
Research Analyst, Equinox

In terms of the CapEx, I expected lower growth CapEx considering that it is a big chunk of it was customer-paid, I don't really understand where that number shows up. How should I think about the customer-paid portion of the CapEx? Is it already netted out of the growth CapEx number, or are we gonna get it this year, like, where does it show up in financials?

Mike Gray
CFO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

It shows up through the revenue line or the courses of the contract.

Parvin Mamedov
Research Analyst, Equinox

All right.

Mike Gray
CFO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

That growth CapEx is the gross CapEx number, and then the customer-funded one, depending on structure of the contract, will flow through as revenue.

Parvin Mamedov
Research Analyst, Equinox

Okay. Okay, this is helpful. Thank you so much.

Mike Gray
CFO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of John Daniel from Daniel Energy Partners. Your line is now open.

John Daniel
Founder and President, Daniel Energy Partners

Hey, hey guys. Thanks for including me. I just have two quick ones on Venezuela. Can you speak to the just the AR collections over the last couple years, and then has anything changed post Maduro leaving? That's the first question. The second would be, would you be more likely in terms of faster incremental deployments of equipment down there? Would it be workover rigs or drilling rigs? Just your thoughts.

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Let's answer the last one first. Drilling rigs in our perspective, there's some local workover rigs that I suspect the local companies will jump on to because lower capital required, less complex equipment. As far as the commercial side, since Maduro's left, nothing has changed as far as our relationship with our client and how we're getting paid. We'll see how it evolves. You know, we've got a pretty good contract structure that we've been using for a period of time, you know, that lives within the OFAC restrictions. Yeah.

Maduro leaving hasn't changed anything other than it appears to have more blue sky ahead of Venezuela. On a day-to-day basis, there's not much change.

John Daniel
Founder and President, Daniel Energy Partners

Fair enough. Thank you very much.

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Okay.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Mr. Bob Geddes from President and CEO. Please continue.

Bob Geddes
President and CEO, Ensign Energy Services Inc

Thank you. Well, the outlook for the drilling industry remains constructive, supported by obvious stronger commodity prices and the ongoing need for reliable global energy. At the same time, the sector continues to operate within a volatile macroeconomic and geopolitical backdrop. That's obviously an understatement today. In this environment, operators will remain focused on efficiency, capital discipline, high-performance drilling contractors like Ensign, whom also have a global footprint and are capable of delivering fast, safer, and more cost-effective wells on a consistent basis, will stay active well into the future. Anyway, with that, I'll close off, and we'll look forward to our next call in three months. Thank you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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