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Earnings Call: Q4 2023

Feb 22, 2024

Operator

Good morning and thank you for standing by. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Kneat Q4 2023 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you'd like to ask a question during this time, simply press Star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, again, press the Star then one. I would now like to turn the conference over to Katie. Please go ahead.

Katie Keita
Investor Relations Lead, Kneat

Thank you, operator, and welcome everyone to Kneat's earnings conference call for the fourth quarter and full -year 2023. Today's call will be hosted by Eddie Ryan, Kneat's CEO, and Hugh Kavanagh, Kneat's CFO. Please note the Safe Harbor statement on Slide 2 in the forward-looking statements disclosure at the end of the earnings release. These inform you that some comments made on today's call contain forward-looking information, which by its nature is subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from the views expressed today. For further information on these risks and uncertainties, consult the company's relevant filings, which can be found on SEDAR and on the company's website at www.kneat.com/investors. During the call, we may refer to certain supplementary financial measures as key performance indicators.

Management uses both IFRS measures and supplementary financial measures as key performance indicators when planning, monitoring, and evaluating the company's performance. Management believes that these non-IFRS measures provide additional insight into the company's financial results, and certain investors may use this information to evaluate the company's performance from period to period. I will now pass the call to Eddie Ryan, CEO of Kneat.

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

Thank you, Katie. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining the call. This morning, Hugh and I will talk about the progress Kneat has made over the last quarter and 12 months and share what we can about our plans for the next 12 months. After that, we will take your questions. As I said in my letter to shareholders, 2023 was another year of strong execution against our plans, which were to add new customers, expand our existing customers, leverage our partner community, further develop the Kneat platform, and continue to build Kneat's own structures for growth over the coming years. I am pleased to report that our team delivered on all fronts. Total revenues for 2023 grew 44%, SaaS revenue grew 73%, and annual recurring revenue grew 55%.

These growth rates were mostly powered by customers we won prior to 2023, demonstrating headway on the expand part of our land and expand strategy. We use a net revenue retention rate to measure how well we are doing on expansions. Our net revenue retention came in at a solid 138% for 2023. With a record number of new strategic customer wins this past year, the high-quality customer base driving our growth grew substantially bigger, helping to secure durable revenue growth into the future. This is because it can take a customer several years to fully scale Kneat across its sites and processes as they look to digitize and harmonize validation enterprise-wide. The result has been a steady and consistent upward trend in our revenue base. The number of customers generating over CAD 200,000 in annual recurring revenue has more than doubled over the past two years.

At the same time, the average annual recurring revenue generated by these customers has also expanded. We estimate that our existing customer base has the potential to contribute more than CAD 65 million in annual recurring revenue when fully scaled for validation use cases alone. This is without adding a single new customer. But of course, we do plan to add more customers. With the investments we have made in the land part of our strategy, we expect to add more new customers in 2024 than we did in 2023. Our go-to-market strategy for 2024 leverages a more seasoned sales and marketing team and an evolving partner strategy, helping our end users to capture more and more value from our software. Kneat's software is not standing still.

In 2023, our R&D team continued to make Kneat Gx more flexible, more powerful, and more feature-rich, enhancing our value proposition across all areas of validation. Our achievements this past year would have been impossible without the investments in talent we made in prior years. While we made excellent use of our expanded capacity this year, we still have room to run, with only strategic hires planned for 2024. Our customers will tell you that we have an incredible company of people at Kneat. This is great for them, but it makes all the difference in the world to the Kneat team itself, doing work every day with truly excellent people who care deeply about the outcome.

As we embark on 2024, we stand to benefit from a powerful and timely combination of advantages: a large and growing customer base where we still have much room in which to expand, a bigger and more seasoned team, and software that we believe revolutionizes validation for life sciences. What this means is that we're better equipped than ever before to create value for our customers, employees, and shareholders. We look forward to seeing what we can accomplish in the year ahead. I will now hand you over to Hugh for a review of the financial results.

Hugh Kavanagh
CFO, Kneat

Thanks, Eddie. As I take you through the numbers, please keep in mind that all the numbers I will be discussing are in Canadian dollars unless otherwise noted. Our four-quarter results reflect progress we've made leveraging the investment we've made in 2022. Revenue for the quarter ended December 31, 2023, was CAD 9.8 million, up 35% from CAD 7.3 million in the fourth quarter of 2022. CAD 8.9 million of this was SaaS license revenue, which grew 58% over the CAD 5.7 million of SaaS license revenue we did in Q4 of 2022. For the full year, revenue grew 44% to CAD 34.2 million from CAD 23.7 million, powered by a 73% growth in SaaS revenues from CAD 17.3 million in 2022 to CAD 30.1 million for all of 2023.

The increase in revenue for both periods primarily reflects the continued scaling by existing customers in their use of Kneat Gx and, to a lesser degree, the purchase of license subscriptions by customers new to Kneat in 2023. Cost of revenue for the fourth quarter of 2023 was CAD 2.8 million, which is lower than in Q3 and slightly higher than cost of revenues in Q4 2022 of CAD 2.7 million. Gross profit for the three months ended December 31, 2023, was CAD 7 million, 53% higher than CAD 4.6 million in the fourth quarter of 2022. Gross margin percentage was our highest yet at 72% compared to 63% for the fourth quarter of 2022. This brings us for the full- year to a gross profit of CAD 23.2 million, 58% higher than the CAD 14.7 million for 2022.

Gross margin percentage for the full 12 months of 2023 was 68% versus 62% for all of 2022. As partners take on more professional services and the proportion of our SaaS revenue to professional services revenue expands, we expect the gross margin percentage to continue inching upwards year-over-year in 2024. Operating expenses grew 28% in the fourth quarter to CAD 10.1 million versus CAD 7.9 million in the fourth quarter of 2022. The largest contributor to this growth includes sales and marketing expense of CAD 4.4 million in Q4 2023 versus CAD 3.4 million in Q4 of 2022. Note that our VALIDATE conference in Q4 for both periods drove much of the increase from Q3. R&D expense, net of capitalized R&D for Q4 2023, was CAD 3.8 million compared to CAD 3 million in Q4 of 2022 and relative to that compared to Q3 2023.

Total operating expense for the full- year was CAD 36.7 million, 50% higher than in 2022, driven primarily by a 62% growth in sales and marketing expense to CAD 13.8 million versus CAD 8.5 million for 2022, a 43% growth in R&D expense net of capitalized R&D to CAD 15.8 million for the full year compared to CAD 11 million for all of 2022. We saw growth in OpEx come down every quarter in 2023 and plan to maintain a more measured pace of OpEx growth throughout 2024. We ended the quarter and the year with total annual recurring revenue ARR of CAD 37.4 million, up 55% from the end of 2022 when it was CAD 24.2 million. Virtually all of this ARR is now coming from SaaS license fees, which grew 57% to CAD 37.3 million from CAD 23.7 million at December 31, 2022.

The difference between total ARR and SaaS ARR comes from maintenance fees, which were CAD 0.1 million at the end of 2023 compared to CAD 0.5 million at the close of 2022, with all but one significant customer having transferred to SaaS. Moving on to the balance sheet and use of cash. We've had some developments here since our last report in November, the first of which was a drawdown of our debt facility in December of EUR 5 million, which is a little over CAD 7 million Canadian dollars. We supplemented this earlier this month with an equity offering through a bought deal from a consortium of investment bankers in Canada. The offering added approximately CAD 18.5 million to our cash balance.

As a result, we are well capitalized to transition towards break-even and profitability over the next several quarters as we execute on our go-to-market motion, continue to build the Kneat platform, and fortify our internal processes and operations to accomodate the company as we scale. For reference, we have filed our audited consolidated financial statements and MD&A on SEDAR, and they are also available on our website. I will now turn the call over to our operator for your questions.

Operator

Thank you. The floor is now open for your questions. To ask a question again, as mentioned, please press Star, then the number one on your telephone pad. We are going to pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Christian Sgro from Eight Capital. Please go ahead.

Christian Sgro
Principal of Equity Research, Eight Capital

Hi. Good morning, Eddie and Hugh. Congrats on a strong close to the year. In the disclosures, you noted that expansion activity drove most of the software or SaaS growth through the year ending Q4. So just wondering if you could give any color around what type of expansion activity it was and maybe to focus the question a little bit. How much of that expansion activity would you say is geographic or new site expansion as you move across your big customers?

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

Hi, Christian. Thanks for the question. Yeah. So expansions with our existing customers as part of our white space that we have there is very strong. And I guess there's a tendency for it to happen in the latter part of the year stronger than the front of the year. That's one of the things we would have there. And then we have it's coming primarily from what we would term as enterprise and strategic customers. And there's also customers in there that would have gone live early in the year that would also be seeing some expansion. But there'd be a smaller proportion of those. So by and large, the expansions are coming from the customers that would be more than a year with us type thing or most of the year before they started expanding proper.

Christian Sgro
Principal of Equity Research, Eight Capital

Okay. That's helpful on the timeline. I have one follow-on there for your newer customers. Do you expect, as Kneat scales, that you could scale them faster? And do you maybe expect them to? Or is that 3-year 6-year full-scale timeline pretty consistent even with the newer logos?

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

I would say yes, there's very good opportunity for that, especially given that we have a stronger focus on account management and customer success management and tech support going into the future that we built up that function later last year. Also, the maturity of Kneat in the marketplace, its reputation of being tried and tested technology that works and delivers the compliance aspect of the needs that other systems may struggle with. We're known for being successful. We're known for being an easy-to-use software. That's constantly getting stronger. I think that's feeding into more aggressive expansions by our customers.

Christian Sgro
Principal of Equity Research, Eight Capital

Okay. Just one more question from me, and then I'll pass the line. But on the strategic hires going forward, Eddie, maybe two parts. Does that suggest a broader, slower pace of hiring across all functions? And then by strategic, does that mean would you call it senior leadership or more organizational additions? Just what do you mean by that commentary?

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

Yeah. I suppose there's a bit of both. But I would say that over the last year, the year and a half, we strengthened a lot of our functions, right? And in the back end of last year, we were probably more focused on the customer success aspect of the business. And so I would still see strategic being more customer success functions, a bit more into sales, but generally speaking, and a little bit of leadership as well. Generally speaking, we're going to be flat on our expenses through the year is what we've more or less said late last year as well. And that is holding true. We still believe we're growing into a strong team that's really performing and delivering for us on the marketplace.

Christian Sgro
Principal of Equity Research, Eight Capital

That's all great. Thanks so much for taking my questions, and I'll pass the line.

Operator

Our next line in question comes from the line of Rob Goff from Echelon Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Rob Goff
Managing Director and Head of Research, Echelon Wealth Partners

Thank you for taking my question. Congrats on a very strong quarter, guys.

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

Thanks, Rob.

Hugh Kavanagh
CFO, Kneat

Thank you, Rob.

Rob Goff
Managing Director and Head of Research, Echelon Wealth Partners

I just wanted to maybe focus on the revenue line. Eddie, I believe you commented that you look forward to adding more customers in 2024 versus 2023. Would that apply to the enterprise level of customers?

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

Yes. So I guess our business is very much focused on enterprise and strategic. So enterprise is kind of the layer down below strategic from our perspective.

Rob Goff
Managing Director and Head of Research, Echelon Wealth Partners

Oh, sorry. I should have said.

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

So yes. Keep going. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No problem, Rob. I would say that we're seeing a quality strong pipeline developing all the time. We expect that to continue through 2024. So there is obviously, we would say that last year, to some extent, there was a slowdown in deals here and there and a little bit because of the macro environment. We still don't know how that will pan out through the year. But generally speaking, it's not significantly impacting us. But if you go down to smaller customers, yes, it is. We're looking to do more of our smaller customers through our partner channels as well as we go through 2024.

Rob Goff
Managing Director and Head of Research, Echelon Wealth Partners

Okay. Great. And then perhaps on the spending side of things, could you talk to your R&D spending and how that relates to your moves to add new services and expand your TAM?

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

Yeah. Absolutely, Rob. This is really the guys, I mean, the R&D team is doing a great job, as is the rest of all the other functions there. But I would say that we're very excited about what the guys are developing. And we saw the newest release of our product, which will go on the market very soon, and it's very powerful. And we believe that it's really consolidating our ability to expand with our customers and grow into that addressable market that we have in front of us. So we think that what's coming out is going to be really exciting for the market, and we're looking forward to that. So the R&D team is doing a great job.

They're building, as I say, Rob, they're building, and I've said it before, they're building for great closeness to our customers, real intimate customer relationships, building to here and now, but also building the future for Kneat as well in parallel.

Rob Goff
Managing Director and Head of Research, Echelon Wealth Partners

Great. If I may have a follow-up before passing along, could you perhaps talk to the rollout of that product upgrade and just how significant that might be for customers?

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

Yeah. So, it's, I would say the release of our next release is due probably later in the quarter, but it'll probably take a bit of time before it gets into customers' hands and all of that, right? So as you go through the year, we'll begin to see that in customer success, right? But it's still part of what we would call the validation space. We're still focused on validation space and ensuring we're giving as much value as we can to our customers as broadly and as deeply as we can within that space.

Rob Goff
Managing Director and Head of Research, Echelon Wealth Partners

Great. Thank you.

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

Thanks, Rob.

Hugh Kavanagh
CFO, Kneat

Thanks, Rob.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Doug Taylor with Canaccord. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Hi. Thank you. This is Neil speaking on Doug's behalf. First off, congratulations on the strong quarter, Eddie Ryan. The first question that we have is just with respect to the pipeline. We had some strong momentum in 2023, and you spoke to some good momentum into the new year. Just wondering if you could speak a little bit more to the mix of customer conversations you're having between traditional pharma and kind of the CPG and other markets kind of adjacent to the highly regulated life sciences space.

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

Yeah. So there's a bit of everything there, but I would say that our pure market, which is bio-pharmaceutical manufacturing and the supply chain around that, is really key where most of our conversations are, right? And then adjacent to that, we have the consumer product goods companies as well, Neil. And we have in our customer base, we have some very large consumer product goods companies. And they're also expanding with us, and we're also having conversations about more. So we expect to continue to see the supply chain and the consumer product goods companies coming through as customers in due course. So we have a very diverse, I would say, pipeline from that space. We have a lot of what we term large customers supplying into our core, which is bio-pharma manufacturing. We have a lot of big companies supplying in there, engineering companies, IT service providers.

We have a value proposition for all of these also. That's evolving as we go forward. We would expect to see good return from the supply chain as well. That also includes contract manufacturing organizations and the like and research organizations. We have a value proposition for all of them. That's what we term as our Life Sciences $2 billion TAM.

Speaker 9

Okay. Then just a follow-up, kind of working within one of the follow-up to the questions earlier, just with potentially hiring being a little bit slower, just wondering, as you approach this TAM that, as you said, touches so many different industries, are there any kind of reshuffling or allocation or reallocation of resources around certain opportunities where you're seeing some particular momentum? Just wondering how you, I guess, configure your go-to-market depending on where you're seeing the strongest opportunities over the coming year.

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

Yeah. I would say that the key thing from our talking to different segments in that space doesn't dilute any of our capabilities. In other words, the people who are selling to pharma manufacturers can also sell to the consumer product goods companies. The conversations are very much the same. What I would say is that what we would be focusing more on is on the smaller customers that we would try and have our strategic partners play more a part in that space. And they would be from a lifecycle management of the customer, for example, through the partner. So we're beginning to see that. And we've launched that this year, and we're pushing that further so that Kneat then would be more focused on enterprise and strategic and that the channels would take more ownership of the small and medium customers. But it's not perfect.

Crosses over a wee bit and all that. They'd be the only sort of changes we would be from an organizational perspective focused on at this point in time, Neil. We're constantly evaluating everything. Strategy tweaks a bit as we go all the time.

Speaker 9

Great. And just one more question. You'd mentioned the expectation to be able to approach break-even over the coming year. It seemed, I think, if I'm not mistaken on EBITDA metrics. Just wondering if you could speak to, I guess, below the line, what you're seeing in terms of expected working capital dynamics over the coming year. Just wondering if you could speak to what you're seeing there. And thank you. I'll pass the line after that.

Hugh Kavanagh
CFO, Kneat

Okay, Neil. I'll pick up from Hugh here. So yeah, the fundraising has given us a very strong balance sheet and puts us in a very strong position. And I believe that it puts us in control of our own destiny. But in terms of the actual expenses, etc., yeah, so as Eddie talked about previously, we're not planning to add a lot of headcount. I mean, there will be, as he mentioned, some strategic ads, etc., and obviously, some inflation-type growth in expenses, annual reviews, etc. But yeah, no, I mean, we're absolutely moving in the direction of break-even on an EBITDA basis. And just on EBITDA basis, I think we can anticipate going that direction over the coming quarters, maybe not before the end of this year, but certainly as we go into 2025, I think that's not an unreasonable expectation.

Speaker 9

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Justin Keywood from Stifel. Please go ahead.

Justin Keywood
Managing Director, Stifel

Hi. Thank you for taking my call. Just on the opening comments, I think I heard the opportunity with existing customers, the ARR is CAD 65 million. I believe that's up from CAD 50 million year-over-year, if that's accurate. And is that, I assume, reflective of the amount of new customer wins and also if there's any indication of timing when that opportunity with existing customers could be achieved?

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

Hi, Justin. Yeah. That's a good question. So we would have reviewed that number from a ground-up perspective based on the traction we have with existing customers and, I would say, extrapolating that into the space at large. And yeah, so it's based on newer customers that have come into our customer base and also reviewing existing customers and seeing if they're still on track. And generally speaking, nothing has really changed. And the timing of them, I would stand over the earlier question as well, right, is that I would see these larger strategic customers being a 3- year to 6-year expansion for validation across all their sites to all their different use cases, of which there are many.

There can be 12 different use cases, 12 different validation processes, and expanding them to all users across all sites when we think of our lead customer having 9,000 users across the globe. So we would say them being 3-6 years depending on how quickly they move internally. But as I say, that timeline is coming down, and it's coming down because of the validated status of Kneat in the marketplace and the company behind Kneat and the success that we get through our customers. I mean, there isn't a customer out there that doesn't love working with Kneat and its products, right? And that is becoming broader and broader. And the referenceability now when you're signing a customer is hardly even asked when you're dealing with Kneat now.

Justin Keywood
Managing Director, Stifel

Great. Understood. Any indication on the type of EBITDA margins that could be achieved at that level of scale, the $65 million?

Hugh Kavanagh
CFO, Kneat

Yeah. Well, I mean, also with the Justin, our gross margins are moving up, and our EBITDA margins are coming up. I'm not going to put an exact number on where we could expect EBITDA to be at that sort of CAD 65 million level. But I am happy to sort of say that we expect to move towards the sort of normal EBITDA-type margins as over time over the next number of years, we would expect to get to those normal levels.

Justin Keywood
Managing Director, Stifel

Thanks. And maybe a follow-up, Hugh, on your opening remarks in regards to gross margin. I think I heard there's going to be some slight expansion this year. Any indication of what that could be?

Hugh Kavanagh
CFO, Kneat

Yeah. I mean, again, to a significant degree, it's been driven by the mix of professional services to SaaS revenue. As we continue to grow our SaaS revenues, then that mix is going to continue to move towards SaaS and be more reflective of the SaaS margins that we are achieving. So I mean, as I think you may have heard me saying before, I mean, we've been achieving very low margins and have been aiming to achieve very low margins on our professional services. They're very much professional services is to drive the growth in licenses and license revenue. So yeah. So I mean, I think realistically, we probably won't necessarily see that tick-up happening in the first quarter. But in subsequent quarters, as the ARR and revenue grows, yeah, we're going to see small tick-ups.

We're at 72, which is a very nice increase from where we were last quarter and last year. So I think we've made a very significant jump in this quarter. We're not going to see that level of increase repeated over the quarters of 2024. But yeah, there'll be slight tick-ups.

Justin Keywood
Managing Director, Stifel

Great. Maybe just a quick follow-on. So 72% in Q4, would that be a good level to build on, maybe assuming flattish results for Q1 and then upticks thereafter?

Hugh Kavanagh
CFO, Kneat

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Q1, I mean, might be maybe 1% or 2% down, but then Q2 we'll be back again and ticking on from there, yeah.

Justin Keywood
Managing Director, Stifel

Thank you for taking my questions.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Gavin Fairweather with Cormark. Please go ahead.

Gavin Fairweather
Managing Director and Co-Head of Research, Cormark

Hey, guys. Congrats on all the progress. A few for me. When you think about your earlier cohorts of customers like pre-2020, are you still finding ways to grow those customers through your increased customer success efforts and some of the new modules you're releasing? I mean, you talk about that 3-6-year timeline towards full deployment. I'm curious with those earlier cohorts if you're still finding ways to expand them even though they might be a bit further along in the initial use case.

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

Hi, Gavin. Yeah. So exactly. I mean, so the e-validation space, as I said, is potentially 12 use cases across multiple different functions and different segments. And there's different variations to this in different places. We're constantly building out the technology to go deeper and broader within those spaces. So yes, we are certainly still expanding customers that would have been there, as you referenced, pre-2021, 2020, whatever. So they're constantly expanding. But just the big picture thing is that our view is to expand them all, continuously expand them. And we see we're always looking for opportunity to do that. And as I say, I often say in the call is that we're building the future of our platform parallel with the current. So we expect to see these customers expanding for a long time.

Gavin Fairweather
Managing Director and Co-Head of Research, Cormark

That's great. And then just on the new addition in the senior leadership team with Colin, it sounds like part of his duties are doing a bit of a revamp on how the channel program is working. Maybe you can just discuss a little bit how you're kind of tweaking that program and ultimately, what impact are you trying to drive with those changes?

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

Yeah. So Colin is very focused on the operational side of things and our customer success side of things and professional services. So it's about continuing that customer intimate engagement and supporting our customers' success of our product across all areas, right, and ensuring that we really have these intimate understandings with our customers as well around where we should be going for them. And there's a lot of gathering information, gathering through that. But there's also customer success helping them to, first of all, utilize our software to the fullest and then expand it further. So there's a lot of work going on there. And I guess that's where the strongest focus for Colin is, is supporting the sales function with customer success and tech support right where it comes to engaging with the customer. That would be the key focus amongst other things.

We've done a lot of work there at the back end of last year, put strategic people in locations there. We are seeing green shoots coming through that as well, Gavin.

Gavin Fairweather
Managing Director and Co-Head of Research, Cormark

Okay. Anything specific in terms of the channel or partner program that you would highlight in terms of changes to how it's running or operating?

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

Well, the partner program, we have taken it from what it was, we would say, implementation partners, partners who'd come up and become very strong at implementation and have real deep domain knowledge and close to the customer. These partners are now becoming more strategic partners and reseller partners. So we would have reseller agreements with these partners now. And again, that's under Colin's area as well. So yeah, so more focus on strategic partners to deliver the full life cycle of the customer from selling all the way through to deployment and post-sales support, with Kneat being the direct SaaS supporter, obviously, of that.

Gavin Fairweather
Managing Director and Co-Head of Research, Cormark

Great. And then just from reading through the MD&A, it sounds like you saw a little bit of churn in 2023. Would it be fair to say that that was kind of smaller customers, smaller dollars? Maybe you can just kind of expand on that a little bit and what you saw.

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

Yeah. Yeah. There was a few customers there. And I think the climate probably affected a few of them. A few of the smaller customers went out of business. It was a couple of those. Very small ARR impact on the company, as you can see from the NRR. And then there was a couple of smaller customers that would have had we're looking to start the validation division. One particular customer was looking to start the validation division, but they never went through with that, and they didn't need the software in year two. But very limited, nothing that would suggest anything like that they don't like Kneat or it was just genuine reasons for not going forward using Kneat.

Gavin Fairweather
Managing Director and Co-Head of Research, Cormark

Thanks so much.

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

There's been two customers going out of business.

Gavin Fairweather
Managing Director and Co-Head of Research, Cormark

Thanks, that. That's all my questions.

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

Thanks, Gavin.

Gavin Fairweather
Managing Director and Co-Head of Research, Cormark

Congrats on your progress.

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

Thanks.

Hugh Kavanagh
CFO, Kneat

Thanks.

Operator

Since there are no further questions at this time, Eddie, I'll turn the call back over to you.

Eddie Ryan
CEO, Kneat

Thanks. Before we sign off, I will leave you with three key takeaways. First, our results show that Kneat is gaining ground in life sciences validation. Life sciences goes beyond pharmaceutical and medical device companies. It includes contract development manufacturers, consumer health, and engineering and equipment companies that are helping these companies, our customers. Second, we continue to build because there is much more our platform can do for our customers. Finally, we're getting closer to profitability, an essential element for all long-lived companies, and Kneat plans to be around for a long time. Thank you for listening. As always, a big thank you to the Kneat team that makes our results possible. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.

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