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Earnings Call: Q1 2019

May 30, 2019

Operator

Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Nexus REIT Q1 2019 conference call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To join the question queue, you may press star one on your telephone keypad. Should you need assistance during the conference call, you may signal an operator by pressing star zero. I would now like to turn the conference over to Kelly Hanczyk, Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead, sir.

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

Welcome, everyone. Joining me today is Robert Chiasson, Chief Financial Officer of the REIT. Before we begin, I'd like to caution with regards to forward-looking statements and non-GAAP measures. Certain statements made during this conference call may constitute forward-looking statements, which reflect the REIT's current expectations and projections about future results. Also, during this call, we will be discussing non-GAAP measures. Please refer to our MD&A and the REIT's other securities filings, which can be found at sedar.com for cautions regarding forward-looking information and for information about non-GAAP measures. For the first quarter of 2019 was another stable quarter for the REIT, which is typically a weaker quarter due to seasonality of expenses. Our AFFO payout ratio continues to be in the low 80s, while our debt to gross book value remains conservative at 51.8%.

Things look pretty good for the balance of the year, with revenues from our recent industrial acquisitions in Western Canada beginning on April 1st. These assets were purchased at a 9.33 cap rate with mortgage debt of 3.47%, so should add nicely to our AFFO per unit. From a leasing perspective, the overall portfolio ended the quarter at approximately 95.6% occupancy, up from the previous quarter. We are in advanced negotiations for the last remaining full floor at 2045 Stanley Street, which, if successful, will bring committed space in the property to approximately 91%. We have listed for sale two of our smaller properties in Montreal, which represents approximately CAD 7 million in value.

On the acquisition front, we continue to see a number of deals and hope to continue to be successful in our ability to complete the REIT unit transaction. We're close on two properties representing about CAD 25 million in value, after diligence, we've decided not to continue to pursue them at this time. One, however, may come back in the future, there is possibility there. I will now hand it over to Robert Chiasson to review the financials.

Robert Chiasson
CFO, Nexus Industrial REIT

Thanks, Kelly. Our portfolio continues to deliver consistent results. Same-store NOI was up by approximately CAD 175,000 quarter-over-quarter, with CPI increases on a number of our Western Canadian industrial properties contributing approximately CAD 45,000 of that increase, with changes in occupancy contributing the remainder. As mentioned in the last call, we filled a 23,000 sq ft vacancy at one of our Montreal area industrial properties with rents commencing on March 1st. Our retail office and industrial properties have all performed consistently. Once again, a reminder that the property we acquired in Richmond, B.C. is undergoing tenant setup and the vendor is obligated to complete the build-out at the vendor's cost and is guaranteed NOI until the build-out is completed and tenants are occupying and paying rents per their leases.

For IFRS accounting purposes, this vendor income guarantee is not included in NOI, and accordingly, we have normalized FFO and AFFO to include this. In the quarter, we reevaluated revised timelines for completion of this work, which is now progressing well but had been delayed. As a result, we booked other income in the amount of approximately CAD 2.5 million in the quarter, which is also excluded from normalized FFO and AFFO. Q1 2019 net income of CAD 4.6 million was down from Q1 2018 net income of CAD 6.425 million, primarily as a result of fluctuations in fair value adjustments. In Q1 2018, we had a CAD 1.5 million fair value gain related to two investment properties, which were sold in April 2018.

In Q1 2019, we had a fair value loss on revaluation of Class B LP units of CAD 2.3 million due to an increase in the trading price of REIT units at March 31st as compared to December 31st. Net income excluding fair value adjustments, distributions on Class B LP units, and other income of CAD 5,377,000 was up approximately CAD 298,000 as compared to Q1 2018, primarily due to net acquisitions completed in 2018. Excluding fair value adjustments, other income, and distributions on Class B LP units, Q1 2019 results were consistent with Q4 2018 results. NOI was down by approximately CAD 70,000 as compared to Q4, with Q4 having included higher percentage rent income. Normalized AFFO per unit for the quarter of CAD 0.049 increased 5.6% as compared to Q1 2018, normalized AFFO per unit of CAD 0.046.

Normalized AFFO payout ratio for the quarter of 81.5% is down from 86.1% for the same quarter of 2018. Looking at the balance sheet, our debt to total assets was 51.8% at March 31st, 2019. Our CAD 65 million credit facility matures in July of this year, and we have CAD 60 million of principal maturities on mortgage debt coming up in the remainder of 2019. We refinanced CAD 37 million of that CAD 60 million in April. We're in discussions with respect to the remainder of debt maturing later in 2019. Bond yields continue to be at relatively low levels, with yesterday's five-year bond yield just three basis points off the low for the last year, boding well for terms that we may be able to get for these refinancings. I'll now pass it back to Kelly.

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

Thanks, Rob. I'll now open up the call to any kind of questions.

Operator

Certainly. We will now begin the question and answer session. To join the question queue, you may press star one on your telephone keypad. You will hear a tone acknowledging your request. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing any keys. To withdraw your question, please press star two. We will pause for a moment as callers join the queue. Our first question comes from Stefan Blanc with Echelon Wealth Partners. Please go ahead.

Stefan Blanc
Analyst, Echelon Wealth Partners

Thanks. Good afternoon. I was just wondering if you could give some color on the refinancing terms of the CAD 37 million that was renewed post-quarter. It seems like the weighted average interest rate jumped a little bit from last quarter's from 3.86% to 4.18%. I was just wondering if you could give us some color on that.

Robert Chiasson
CFO, Nexus Industrial REIT

Yeah. The refinancings were actually fairly favorable terms. We divided the CAD 37 million at our interest, the CAD 74 million total mortgage amount. However, this is on properties that we co-own with Sandalwood, our partner. CAD 37 million at our interest broken into a five-year tranche, a seven-year tranche, and a 10-year tranche. Interest rates on those were in the range of 3.87%, 3.74%, and 3.67%. Fairly good rates given where bond yields are at.

Stefan Blanc
Analyst, Echelon Wealth Partners

Okay, thanks. I guess this would be probably in line with what's left to renew for the rest of the year also, right?

Robert Chiasson
CFO, Nexus Industrial REIT

Yeah. We'll look at different strategies for different properties. We like the longer-term debt where we can get it given how small the spread is between five-year, seven-year, and 10-year money.

Yeah, for five-year money, as Kelly mentioned, we did the acquisition at 3.47%. The five-year tranche on that retail portfolio refinancing was 3.67%. Somewhere in that range would be a good estimate for going forward, I think.

Stefan Blanc
Analyst, Echelon Wealth Partners

Okay, thanks. In terms of the acquisition pipeline, can you comment on which segment and geographic location do you see the most attractive opportunities at the moment? I know that the focus is mainly on industrials, but do you see a good flow of attractive opportunities, especially given the cap rates at the moment?

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

Well, cap rates are pretty compressed, and there's lots of competition out there for assets. I see, I guess, there's a lot that is for sale in Quebec, and it's finding things that fit our model. We did have one in the Montreal area that we actually dropped. It may come back in the future, but we actually dropped it in our due diligence. I had another one out West that last minute they decided to take another course of action with the asset. That was unfortunate. It was an industrial asset as well. There's a couple more that we're looking at, and they're industrial. It's the same. It takes a little longer because we are structuring them as unit deals for REIT units. Again, a lot of the stuff I do see is Quebec-based.

We don't spend a lot of time looking in the GTA just because of the cost and the low cap rates. We're looking at ones out West. If they're tenanted, well tenanted with a solid covenant, we'll start to look at them and continue to look at them. That's where we see a lot.

Stefan Blanc
Analyst, Echelon Wealth Partners

I guess from the transactions that didn't go through at least, well, one of them obviously is the one that you guys were working on last quarter, correct?

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

Absolutely. Actually, we were working on it for a year.

Stefan Blanc
Analyst, Echelon Wealth Partners

Okay.

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

It was the longest process I've ever seen. Unfortunately, the asset just got some last-minute type of vacancy issues, and I just didn't want to take them on at this time with a vendor rent obligation and that. We just decided to table it for now, and we'll see if it comes back to us in the future.

Stefan Blanc
Analyst, Echelon Wealth Partners

Right. I guess it's better to know now than after.

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

Yeah. Yes, absolutely.

Stefan Blanc
Analyst, Echelon Wealth Partners

Just one last question. Last year, it was mentioned on the call that you would like to see an AFFO payout ratio at around 75% this year. Do you think this is still possible? Obviously, the payout ratio is decreasing from quarter to quarter, which is good, but is it still a possibility for 2019, or are we looking at maybe the front end of next year?

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

Yeah. I think with the asset transaction we just did and some of the leases we have that are going to be rolling in, I think, I'm not sure 75%, but definitely I think we'll fall below the 80% range. That's what I'm guessing, and I have to look at it. That's kind of the target I'm looking at right now.

Stefan Blanc
Analyst, Echelon Wealth Partners

Okay. Perfect. Thanks. That's it for me.

Robert Chiasson
CFO, Nexus Industrial REIT

Thanks, Stefan.

Operator

Once again, if you have a question, please press star one. Our next question comes from Brad Sturges with iA Securities. Please go ahead.

Brad Sturges
Analyst, iA Securities

Hi there.

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

Hi, Brad.

Brad Sturges
Analyst, iA Securities

Maybe just following up on the payout questions there at the end. I guess with that AFFO payout continuing to trend lower, at what point do you foresee the potential to raise distributions, or do you prefer to still retain cash to fund growth.

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

It's an interesting question that we bandied around at a board level, and so it is on our radar. Not going to commit anything right now because on the other hand, I do like the cash position that we're in. We're looking at it. I think by probably the next board meeting, we'll sit down and talk about it again.

Brad Sturges
Analyst, iA Securities

Okay.

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

If we continue to be successful in leasing, and we really start to see a movement, I think it would gain more momentum, as an option.

Brad Sturges
Analyst, iA Securities

Right. I guess second question, which I would imagine is happening at the board level, just when you think of it in the context of taking on development risk with the REIT, in relation to the Richmond project. Is there any initial thoughts or commentary you can provide in terms of what type of exposure would be appropriate for the REIT today, or what the guidelines might be in terms of what the ideal or maximum exposure could be from a development point of view?

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

Yeah. I don't think we're there yet. The phase 1, the original building where we have the vendor rent obligations, it's moving along quite nicely right now. We'll get more and more comfortable as it continues to gain steam and get built out. Then we'll sit down and have, later on, maybe the next quarterly, a more earnest chat at the board level of what level we want to proceed from a development risk standpoint going forward.

Brad Sturges
Analyst, iA Securities

Lastly, I guess with cap rates compressing and seeing some strong pricing in the market, what's your thoughts on at least the opportunity of looking at asset sales, maybe trimming the bottom of the portfolio, that type of thing, just to high grade?

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

Yeah. We have two that we have listed. That will free up a little bit of cash for us as well. We'll continue to kind of look at ones that are either underperforming or are too small, going forward. Definitely something we look at kind of every quarter.

Brad Sturges
Analyst, iA Securities

Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from Himanshu Gupta with GMP Securities. Please go ahead.

Himanshu Gupta
Analyst, GMP Securities

Thank you and good afternoon. Just to follow up on the Richmond Sports Mall, when do you expect the phase 1 project to be complete?

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

The phase 1 should be complete by about the end of the year. I know one of the tenants, a big one that's actually a swim school, going in the pools and everything that are going in. That one's expected to be turned over to the tenant in July. The rest will follow. I'd say by November, December, the project will be substantially complete.

Himanshu Gupta
Analyst, GMP Securities

Got it. The additional vendor rent obligation of that CAD 2.5 million, which you recorded as other income, does that assume that the completion of the project by year-end? If the project is further delayed, will you receive a higher vendor income?

Robert Chiasson
CFO, Nexus Industrial REIT

I guess the thing to note is we're guaranteed a level of NOI and even though for accounting it doesn't apply to NOI. The amount that we received in respect to this property will be the same, whether we're receiving it from the vendor or whether we're receiving it from the tenants directly. It's just a matter of geography on the P&L. The total amount of cash we receive won't change if the schedule changes. It's just a matter of who we receive it from.

Himanshu Gupta
Analyst, GMP Securities

Correct. Assuming, once the phase 1 is completed and, at that point of time, I guess you think about the phase 2 or phase 3 of the project. Do you have any preliminary thoughts, in which direction you want to go, with phase 2?

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

No, the good thing about this project, and in fact the great part is, upon completion of phase 1, we'll have it reappraised, and it will increase its value on an appraisal. We bought it considerably cheaper from a cap rate perspective than what the market is out there. There'll be a lift on our NAV right from that get-go. As we get further along in its fall and we're going, we have that NAV lift. We know it's there. We'll either decide to. It's a little tricky too, because there's an existing tenant in the phase 2, so it's a little bit of a puzzle piece. We'll have to either make a decision, full-scale development, small redevelopment, or do you look to just liquefy and take your profit and go. Those are the type of decisions that we'll have at the board level.

It'll be how much appetite for risk for a big development project do we want to take, or do we want to take the money off the table?

Himanshu Gupta
Analyst, GMP Securities

Sure. I guess the decision on phase 2 is also like a driver on your potential distribution increase given the AFFO payout being so low right now. Will that be a driver as well? I'm assuming where you just want to decide the fate of phase 2, you can have a better clarity on what kind of payout ratio you want to keep.

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

Yeah. Absolutely. Yep.

Himanshu Gupta
Analyst, GMP Securities

Sure. Okay, just shifting gears on Stanley Street, I know there's a full floor vacant. What is the progress here, what kind of rents are you seeing, or what kind of interest are you seeing in that vacancy, on the vacancy side?

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

Yeah. We actually are in pretty advanced negotiations with someone. I'm hoping that in the next week or so, that gets inked. We will see. Our rents that we've been getting are in the CAD 18 to CAD 22 range per square foot, depending on how much TI is required in the project. Just remember that 9,000 and something foot floor, our interest is half that because that is a joint venture, 50% interest. It's been a lot slower than I thought it would be. If we are successful here, it's in the 91% range for the building. It won't affect our income that much. This deal wouldn't even start probably until January next year. What it does do is it just solidifies the rent going forward.

Himanshu Gupta
Analyst, GMP Securities

Sure. I guess in terms of the acquisition opportunities, I know you already gave some color there, is it fair to say that most of your pipeline is industrial, retail and office will be mostly on opportunistic basis?

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

Yep. Most of the stuff we see that we go after is typically in the industrial side of things. Every now and then we see an office building or a retail, we'll take a look at it. The majority of the things that we do look at right now are on the industrial side.

Himanshu Gupta
Analyst, GMP Securities

Is there a particular cap rate range that you're looking at? Because the last acquisition was pretty healthy at 9.33 cap rate. Do you have any target cap rate or target asset quality or target geography in mind?

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

Yeah, it's a little opportunistic still now, but a 9.3 cap rate was pretty awesome. I like that one.

Himanshu Gupta
Analyst, GMP Securities

Go ahead.

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

We look at six and a half and above, as where we can get some sort of accretion on an AFFO per unit. Industrial, it's hard to compete. You're not going to find that in Toronto GTA Industrial or that. You have to be a little bit opportunistic there. Retail, you can find a lot too, but we're very careful with the retail because we do have a substantial portion of retail in Quebec already. I don't overly pursue the retail assets right now.

Himanshu Gupta
Analyst, GMP Securities

Got it. In fact, that was my next question. How are the retail assets performing? Do you see any impact from store closures and stuff?

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

No, actually, I'm looking at the numbers right now. Our occupancy in our retail, which is the Quebec-based, everything's pretty much Quebec-based. The occupancy there is pretty consistently along with our underwriting that we underwrote it at. The nature of that business is turning tenants. That happens in the retail side. When I look at the portfolio quarter-over-quarter, it's hovering right at our underwriting, just slightly over 90% occupancy. It's been fairly healthy.

Robert Chiasson
CFO, Nexus Industrial REIT

It tends to be more grocery store, drug store anchored type of retail, more so than fashion retail, I would say.

Himanshu Gupta
Analyst, GMP Securities

Okay.

Robert Chiasson
CFO, Nexus Industrial REIT

We have Canadian Tire at a few of the locations. That's a fairly strong tenant for us as well. The nature of our retail is a little different than some of the retail that has bigger issues. We have a fairly stable tenant base.

Himanshu Gupta
Analyst, GMP Securities

Sure. Maybe just one last question I can ask on the NOI growth profile. I know it was flat quarter-over-quarter sequentially. What percentage of your leases, do you have CPI increases or annual rent escalators in place?

Robert Chiasson
CFO, Nexus Industrial REIT

I couldn't give you a percentage. Yeah.

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

It represents somewhere around 125, depending on what the inflation is for a year. It's somewhere around CAD 125,000 on an annual basis.

Robert Chiasson
CFO, Nexus Industrial REIT

For CPI.

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

For CPI increase leases.

Robert Chiasson
CFO, Nexus Industrial REIT

Yeah. We have other leases that have embedded increases. Those increases don't impact our NOI because of straight lining.

Himanshu Gupta
Analyst, GMP Securities

Sure

Robert Chiasson
CFO, Nexus Industrial REIT

Yeah, I couldn't give you a percentage offhand, though.

Himanshu Gupta
Analyst, GMP Securities

Okay, sure. No, that's fine. Thanks for the color. I'll turn it back.

Robert Chiasson
CFO, Nexus Industrial REIT

Great. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes the question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Kelly Hanczyk for any closing remarks.

Kelly Hanczyk
CEO, Nexus Industrial REIT

I'd just like to thank everyone for calling in. I look forward to the next call next quarter.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day.