Good morning and good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the OceanaGold 2019 3rd Quarter Results Webcast and Conference Call. This call is being recorded on Thursday, October 31 at 5 pm Eastern Time. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mick Wilkes. Please go ahead.
Good morning and good evening, everybody. Welcome to the OceanaGold Third Quarter 2019 Results Webcast and Conference Call. It's great to be with you today, and we'll be discussing our operational and financial performance for the quarter. I'm joined by Michael Holmes, Chief Operating Officer, who will discuss the performance and operations and Scott McQueen, our Chief Financial Officer, will also discuss our financial results. I'm also pleased to have Jim Luedica, the Executive General Manager of the Haile operation on the call, and he'll be available to answer questions around that operation.
Just moving to Slide 2, the caution restatement to read out. But before we proceed, note that the references in this presentation adhere to the International Financial Reporting Standards and all financial figures are denominated in U. S. Dollars unless stated otherwise. Also note that the presentation contains forward looking statements, which by their very nature are subject to some degree of uncertainty.
There can be no assurances that our forward looking statements will prove to be accurate as future results and events could differ materially. Please refer to the disclaimer on forward looking statements in our presentation. So Slide number 3, results overview. Our 3rd quarter results were not without challenges, particularly at Didipio, where we continue to navigate the renewal process for our agreement with the Philippine government. We also continue to deal with the what we believe is the unlawful order of the provincial governor, which has resulted in temporarily suspended underground operations and processing due to a lack of supplies needed for sustained operations.
On a consolidated basis, our operations produced approximately 362,000 ounces of gold and 10,000 tons of copper year to date. And in the Q3, we produced over 107,000 ounces of gold and 2,300 tons of copper, which was lower than the prior quarter due to the processing of stockpile ore at Didipio. Rolling costs were $10.87 per ounce on sales of approximately 341,000 ounces of gold and 6,900 tons of copper year to date. The higher quarter on quarter all in sustaining cost was due to decreased sales from Didipio. In the Q3, Haile delivered significant operational improvements for the 3rd consecutive quarter.
3rd quarter all in sustaining cost at the site decreased 20% quarter on quarter and nearly 40% since the Q1 of the year. We continue to improve mine productivity, while continuing to upscale the workforce and experience and are experiencing more stable turnover rates. We're making strong progress moving material and so material movements up 36% from the previous quarter. We also continue to achieve higher throughput rates in the process plant much earlier than expected. Our financial performance this quarter reflects no sales from Didipio in the 3rd quarter.
Revenue and EBITDA both decreased as a result despite the higher average realized gold price through the year. These results translated to an adjusted net profit of negative $5,000,000 and fully diluted adjusted earnings per share of negative $0.01 With multiple operations in the portfolio, we continued to generate good cash flows year to date, resulting in a fully diluted cash flow per share before working capital of $0.26 Our significant pipeline of organic growth opportunities continue to advance well. At Martha Underground, we completed nearly 900 meters of mine development in the 3rd quarter, while achieving exceptional drill results. Our WKT prospect continues to yield our promising results. And over the next 12 months, we will complete an all encompassing study for Waihi, the Waihi district that will help to further quantify its potential.
Permitting of the Horseshoe underground at Haile continues to progress well and we expect to receive the permit early next year. We also expect to begin construction in the Q3 of next year. On the ESG front, we're very proud of our ESG performance, which continues to be recognized across our operations. At Didipio, Oliver Donata was awarded the top pollution control officer in the Philippines, highlighting the excellent environmental management being conducted at the mine. Our safety performance continues to improve with reduced frequency of injuries led by Macraes and Haile, their safety leadership and employee engagement has resulted in significant improvements.
Now let me move on to the Didipio FTAA, Slide 4. I just wanted to take the opportunity to discuss what is happening on the ground in the Philippines. Didipio has long been recognized as the template for responsible mining, as you know, in the Philippines, and we are honored to be a significant contributor to its host communities in the provinces of Miladroskaya and Guarino. It is a world class operation, one we're very proud of, and it's an operation that's run by world class Filipino workforce. We directly employ over 1500 workers comprised of 97% Philippine nationals, 59% of whom are from the local communities and including over 300 women, many of whom are in leadership roles.
Our FTAA was the first one ever signed in the Philippines in 1994. It's going through the renewal process. So it's the 1st FTAA to go through renewal. We don't yet have a time line as to when the renewal process will be concluded, but we continue to have a strong engagement with the national government and our regulator. We recognize the impact of the renewal has on our operating and financial results.
The shareholders of our company and importantly, the locals at Didipio that depend on the mine's ongoing operations to support themselves and their families. We are working very hard and collaboratively with our government partners to renew the FTAA as soon as possible. While the renewal process continues, the national government, which is authority over mining in the country, has permitted us to continue operations at Didipio. Unfortunately, some parties have seen this as an opportunity to challenge that directive, spreading misinformation and disrupting operations at the mine. As previously shared in July this year, the Governor of Nevarezkaya issued an order directing local government units within his province to restrain any operations of the company, and thus the transport of consumables and saleable products in and out of the mine received.
As a result, during the Q3, underground mining operations were suspended due to the depletion of consumable mining supplies. Processing of ore from stockpiles continued and subsequent to the Q3 end, the processing ceased after completion of our maintenance shutdown for the process plant, which was planned. At this time, mining and milling at site is temporarily suspended. However, critical activities continue to ensure the safety of our employees and protection of the environment. With that, I'll pass over to Michael to discuss the performance of our operations.
Thank you, Nick, and hello, everyone. Moving on to Slide 5 and before I begin reviewing our operational results, I would like to introduce Haile's new Executive General Manager, Jim Whitaker, who is joining us on the call today. Jim brings more than 30 years of mining experience managing operations for Barrick and others in North and South America. Jim will be available for questions at the end of webcast today. Turning to Slide 6.
Overall, the company continues to focus on enhancing our safety cultures through leadership and employee engagement. Adipseo leads within our portfolio with a total injury frequency rate of 1,300,000 hours worked and improvements at Harlan and Macraes have resulted in the company's total recordable injury frequency rate trending lower over the last 12 months, running at a total injury frequency rate of 3.7 per 1000000 hours worked as compared to 4.8 that was achieved in 2018. Moving on to Slide 7 and the operational performance at Haile. As Nick mentioned, we had a significant improvement in the operational performance in the 3rd quarter and this trend has continued into the 4th quarter. Haile produced about 37,000 ounces of gold, which is relatively in line with the previous quarter and slightly lower than we had originally expected due to a delay in accessing higher grade section at the bottom of the site pit.
Unit cash costs were 8.80 $8 per ounce in the Q3, which compares to over $1100 per ounce in the Q1 of the year. And while higher quarter over quarter, it still represents nearly a 20% improvement in unit cash costs over 2018. The quarter on quarter increase in cash cost relates to the volume of material moved. Mining cost of $3.42 were 10% lower quarter on quarter with better utilization of our existing fleet. Unit cost decreased with productivity improvements as the first of our new equipment was put into action.
The number of new trucks operating in the 4th quarter increases substantially as delivery and the build process progresses more efficiently. Total mining movements were up 36% quarter on quarter despite only one of the new 730E Komatsu haul trucks being operable in quarter 3. During the quarter, wet ground and combined mining conditions deferred some of the higher grade material from the bottom of the Snake pit from the Q3 to the Q4. We expect these improvements to become less of a challenge as the mine plan progresses with the completion of Snake Pit Phase 1 and the expansion of the other pits. 3rd quarter all in sustaining cost of 11.6 dollars per ounce represents a 20% decrease on quarter on quarter, making a trend of continued improvement throughout the year.
In terms of processing, we saw unit processing cost decrease 13% quarter on quarter, and we continuously operated the process plant above the 3.5 tons per ounce. We saw and continue to see the benefits of the debottlenecking processes at the process plant and the tie in of the new regrinding circuit. These efforts accumulated in record daily throughput rates, which have far exceeded our expectations and earlier than planned. A new additional pre aeration thickness is the final phase of the process plants debottlenecking will accommodate the higher throughput target of 4,400,000 tonnes per annum while supporting the grind size optimization. Construction, completion and commissioning of this segment is expected in the Q4 to average in the low 80s, but over the long term, we are targeting recoveries in the mid-80s.
Moving on to Slide 8 and the specific details on how the operations performed quarter on quarter. As you can see, Haile delivered its 3rd consecutive quarter of operational improvements. The Haile mine plan for 2019 was always back and weighted, and we continue to expect moderately high production at similar cost in the 4th quarter. We also anticipate continued operational improvement, including increased mine to ton volume and with the larger mining fleet being brought online. We can also expect a similar production profile for 2020 at Haile with onethree of production in the first half of the year and the remaining twothree in the second half of the year.
Costs will also be skewed to reflect this traction profile. Moving on to Slide 9 and Didipio in the Philippines. As Mick has already stated, we temporarily suspended underground mining operations in mid June due to the depletion of mining consumables. Other underground activities, including pumping, has continued for the safety and environmental reasons. Processing of the low grade stockpile ore continued through the Q3 and briefly into October, less 24 day shutdown in September for planned maintenance.
Didipio was unable to transport Borre and concentrate from the site for the duration of the Q3 due to the road blockages. Production from the Q3 remained in inventory and assuming proper prices of 2.60 per pound, the estimated all in sustaining cost on an as produced basis was approximately $5.20 per ounce. The operation remains in a state of readiness for restart and the health and safety of our employees continues as a top priority. When we have the FDA renewed or if we receive a favorable outcome from the Philippine Court of Appeal, we expect to receive operations within 2 weeks. Looking ahead, Didipio's 4th quarter outlook is and beyond is now largely dependent on completion of the FDA renewal process, and we continue to proactively engage with our regulatory stakeholders.
Moving on to Waihi in Slide 10. Waihi's 3rd quarter production of approximately 16,000 ounces was to plan with lower mining with mining of lower grade zones of Correnso, which are expected to believe to be depleted in the Q1 of 2020. With the Martha underground under development, we expect to be back into production at Waihi in 2021 with an upgraded process plant. Mark Caso and his projects team are currently working on the study that will provide the market with more details of the Waihi District plan, including funding production costs and mining and processing physicals. Exploration is ongoing in both underground drill drives and from the surface of Waihi.
During the Q3, we reported results from successful extensional drilling at Martha, including the exploration target to 8,000,000 to 10,000,000 tonnes at grades between 4 grams 6 grams per tonne. This exploration target is in addition to the current 331,000 ounces of indicated gold resources and 667,000 ounces of inferred gold resources. At our WKT prospect, located approximately 10 kilometers to north of Waihi, we continue to explore our exploration drilling from 2 rigs, which are yielding significant high grade results. Moving to Macraes on Slide 11. As expected, production from Macraes was similar quarter on quarter as high grades from Coronation North were offset by a lower grade hydro ore feed from Coronation pit with slightly lower recoveries.
In the quarter, total mining movements decreased 10% in line with the mining schedule as equipment was utilized in multiple areas with the commencement of mining from the gate and pit. The company is currently issuing opportunities to increase mine life in Macraes, including investment in exploration across multiple targets within the Macraes gold pool. Work continues on the scrapping study for Golden Point, which is expected to replace the Fraser's underground mine and extend the operations mine life. Looking ahead to the rest of the year at Macraes, we expect production in the 4th quarter to be higher on better grade and lower costs due to less stripping as ore is sourced from Coronation ore, Coronation and Gatan pit. I will now turn the presentation over to Scott McLean, who will discuss our financial performance.
Thank you.
Thank you, Michael, and hello, everyone. The next few slides cover the key aspects of our 3rd quarter and year to date financial performance. Turning to Slide 13, which provides a summary of our financial results for the quarter and the year to date. The quarter on quarter reductions in both revenue and EBITDA primarily reflect the fact that Q3 included no gold or copper sales from Didipio. This reduction in sales volume was only partially offset by a 6% increase in the average gold price received in the Q3.
3rd quarter production at Didipio, plus some of the Q2 production on hand at the end of last quarter remains in inventory and is available for immediate sale upon the restart of normal operations. However, though, where production has ceased, costs associated with maintaining Didipio in a state of operational readiness are immediately expensed to the profit and loss account. In the Q3, Didipio non production costs were included in G and A and amounted to 7,600,000 dollars This related mainly to maintaining the underground in a safe and environmentally compliant state post the suspension of mining, bus costs associated with the 24 day maintenance shut of the plant as mentioned by Michael. As a guide, we expect a similar level of non production cost at Didipio in the 4th quarter, assuming the operations remain in the state of operational readiness and do not restart any earlier. The reported NPAT for the Q3, as Mick mentioned, at the outset was a loss of 22,000,000 dollars which included unrealized losses of $17,000,000 on New Zealand dollar gold hedges, which cover the balance of 2019 and also 2020.
As shown in the table, the adjusted net profit, which excludes these unrealized non cash hedge losses, was a loss of $5,000,000 or negative $0.01 per share fully diluted. Moving down to the cash flow summary at the bottom of the slide. Operating cash flow for the quarter decreased $33,000,000 $233,000,000 sorry, or $0.05 per share with a minimal change in net working capital across the quarter. Again, the primary driver for the reduction in the 3rd quarter was the reduced sales at Didipio combined with the non production costs incurred. 3rd quarter investing cash flow decreased 33% from the previous quarter with lower capital costs in most areas of the business, particularly pre stripping at both Macraes and Haile as was flagged in the previous quarter, combined with deferral of capital at Didipio and in all other areas of the business where we've targeted reductions in deferrals.
Moving on to Slide 14, which includes some additional capital expenditure information. As outlined at the top of the table and just noted, total capital expenditure decreased 33 percent to approximately $55,000,000 in the 3rd quarter. For the first line of the table, there's been a reduction in general operating capital, which was lower across all operations as we deferred all capital possible at Didipio, but also targeted capital reductions and deferrals across the rest of our operations. Growth capital was also lower this quarter, again partially due to the deferral of growth capital at Didipio. The main areas of investment during the quarter were the continued Haile expansion, which included the construction of water retention ponds and additional PAG storage capacity.
However, in total terms, growth capital at Haile was lower quarter on quarter with the major capital investment in the regrind circuit upgrade already behind us. These reductions were partially offset by an increase in growth capital at Waihi, or as Mick mentioned earlier, Martha Underground Development progressed in the Q3. Pre strip at both Haile and Macraes reduced material in the Q3 as forecast. We did see an increase in exploration spend in the 3rd quarter related to drilling the high value opportunities around Waihi. We are trimming broader exploration spend in the Q4 and expect to come in lower in the full year as illustrated in the revised guidance ranges noted.
Moving to the updated guidance. We have increased our 2019 free strip and capitalized mining forecast range. This reflects higher mining costs and contracted support to accelerate waste movements at Haile combined with an expectation of commencing pre stripping at Ledbetter in Q4. At the same time, we've also made reductions across other capital areas consistent with changes in the operating assumptions at Didipio and to other capital plans expected across the Q4. Naturally, we continue to invest strongly in exploration as a value creator, but we're primarily focused on efforts at and around Waihi given the positive progress of both Martha and WKP drilling.
In total, we're now forecasting lower full year CapEx. Moving on to Slide 15, which provides a snapshot of our balance sheet. As at September 30, our cash balance was $56,000,000 with immediately available liquidity of 106,000,000 dollars Our net debt at September 30 was $140,000,000 an increase quarter on quarter given the lower operating cash flow and the progressive increase in capital equipment leases related to the Haile mining fleet upgrades. Consistent with previously announced plans, we expect these capital leases to increase progressively as the rest of the new fleet arrives on-site and goes into service. We're comfortable with our ability to manage the balance sheet given our low level of gearing and the long standing support and industry knowledge within our banking group as we continue to balance the short term challenges presented at Didipio with continuing to run the rest of our assets successfully and advancing our exciting organic growth opportunities.
I'll now hand back to Mick to wrap up the presentation.
Thanks, Scott. Thanks, Michael. Let me just say a few words to close it out. I'll just finish up with 2 more slides, moving to Slide 17. We know the near term future of Didipio is uncertain.
And as I've mentioned, we'll continue to work collaboratively with the national government to advance the FTAA renewal. And in the meantime, our other three operations are on track to deliver our revised guidance. We expect to do this through stronger production from Macraes and Haile and steady production at Noye. Notwithstanding the current political challenges in the Philippines we're currently going through, I'm pleased with the progress we've made at Haile and the commitment to advancing our substantial organic growth pipeline so far this year. And just lastly, turning to the Slide 18, the growth slide, the final slide for the presentation, I'd like to review our growth pipeline.
These projects are expected to deliver significant value to shareholders and further increase our production from top tier jurisdictions. The first is the Haile expansion through the high grade Horseshoe deposit, which we will start next year as we said in the Q3. We're tracking well with that. We're also excited at the potential of making additional high grade discoveries through exploration drilling from underground. The growth in New Zealand is very exciting.
The Martha Underground is advancing well, but only one leg of the stool of growth for us is in the Waihi district. This is only one leg of the stool. WKP also represents an exceptional opportunity to transform the operation into our flagship asset, delivering significant cash flows to shareholders and significant socioeconomic benefits for New Zealand. The grades has its share of projects as well that are mainly geared to expanding and extending the mine life. Specifically, we expect these projects to add more than 200,000 ounces of gold production to our portfolio over the next 5 years, while delivering margin growth and significant extensions to mine life.
So with that, that concludes the formal presentation segment of this webcast. I'll now take some questions over the phone and I'll turn the webcast over to the moderator to facilitate. Thank you.
Thank you. Your first question is from Michael Stiverski from Credit Suisse. Michael, please go ahead.
Yes, thanks very much. I've got a few. I'll start with Haile, if I may, please. First of all, when you revised group guidance, seemingly on largely on Didipio, was there any adjustment to your expectation around Haile? When you listen to your words about modest production growth for the Q4.
Does that mean you achieved the bottom end of your guidance range for Haile or not?
Yes, that's correct. We're expecting to achieve guidance of Haile set out in the start of the year. But with the update for the full year, that was largely because of distributive. We didn't adjust anything else.
Okay. Secondly, with respect to Haile recovery, a little bit lower in the September quarter than the June quarter. Was that simply reflecting the lower grade treated, the reliance on low grade stockpiles in the September month?
Jim, could you answer that please?
Sure, Mick. Hi, Michael. How's it going? Yes, great question. As you know, we've been working on several projects through the mill facility to increase recovery.
Currently, we're running at levels around 82% to 84%. The projects are going well. This Q4, the last project to be developed is pre aeration thickener, which will help us to control the load into the new fine grinding circuit. And we're expecting those improvement in recoveries to continue up into the next year.
Okay. And while I got you, Jim, the hail sort of improving flexibility between the new fleet, the plant throughput and recovery, greater sort of operational flexibility as you get more pits developed. When does Haile really hit its straps? When are you at a point on the schedule where everything is tuned and it can really deliver what you expect from it?
Yes, also very good question. Of course, what we're doing here, the way this process is designed, the mill facilities are actually very hungry right now. They're running at a very high rate and it's the mine that's having to catch up with mill. We currently have 5 of the new 730s and one of the big shovels built and in the dirt. And so our program will continue bring the 2nd large PC4000 and the remaining shovels up to 15 by about May of next year.
So I would suggest somewhere around Q2, we're really going to be hitting it with respect to feed going to the mill facility. Okay.
Thank you very much. Moving on to Didipio. If the blockade continues, is there anything that can sort of challenge you? I'm thinking of critical spares like pumps and so on for underground. Broken ore stocks that can they freeze in stopes?
Is there any sort of time critical stuff there that could trip you up?
Yes. Michael, it's Michael here. As we sort of we understood with the barricades, we basically emptied out all of our underground stock. So basically, everything is sitting, waiting and ready for waiting for starter. As the consumables ran out, we took that opportunity to do that.
So most of the all the low grade stocks are on stockpile, as you know. We have enough space with regard to continuing the dewatering process. So and the reason for staying in a position of business readiness with the workforce means that we can really start within 2 weeks of getting a be up to full production within 2 weeks of getting either the Court of Appeals or the FDA renewal. So that's the decisions we've made. But yes, so everything gets checked daily as part of the routine that we have to ensure that the safety and the environmental compliance remains.
We still have our orders by the NDB regulators. So we're still sort of on that track. So that's the spread of readiness for Didipio at this point in time.
All right.
Thanks, Hamzah. One for Scott with respect to the Didipio concentrate stock. I assume that figure in inventory in the balance sheet, that's cost. If I do some simple maths around average gold price and copper price, looks like in terms of sort of net realizable value, it's actually about a period on period change of about 35,000,000
dollars It's higher than that, Michael. It includes there's also dore in addition to the concentrate on-site. But yes, it's a substantial amount, but we're not trying to draw too much attention to that.
Yes. Okay. Thank you. And then finally, on the access to Martha, when are you in a position to see first ore from Martha? And then what's the ramp up period to when we can see an improvement in the production profile with respect to Martha contributing?
Yes. Thanks, Michael. So as I mentioned, sort of end of quarter 1 is when the Correnco sort of ore body will be completed and we'll sort of we're just going through the budgeting process at the moment to sort of lock down the mine plan. So we know that it's going to be 2021, but we haven't locked down that time frame at this point in time.
Okay. Thanks, Aussie.
And that will be coming out with a study early next year.
Okay. Thank you.
Thank you. Your next question is from Daniel Morgan from UBS. Daniel, please go ahead.
Hi, Tim. Just another question regarding Didipio. I know you said a 2 week ramp up once or sorry, you can begin production in 2 weeks once you've received approvals to do so. Just wondering after that, how much further, how much longer is it to ramp up to full production to go from beginning production to full run rate?
It will take probably another 2 weeks and to get back up to full production. So we're looking at about a month to take it up. So the way it
was left was the material
that was fired was taken out. So we still got states that are open, which just require further firing and put on to the deck and then just getting the building fleet back up and running in the production and the development fleet to back up production. But we have started to need to be produced straight away. So getting up full production, I'm anticipating about a month.
Okay. And then the just moving to the Martha Underground and maybe a follow-up on Michael Slifirski's questions. With the end of Carenzo, which is in Q1 next year, is there any gap or is there a production shortfall or drop from Carenzo or do you guys straight into Martha and there's steady production from Waihi after Correnso finishes, I guess, what I'm trying to get at?
Yes. Thanks for that question, Dan. As Mike said, we finished production from Correnza in the Q1, and there won't be any production from Whitey for the remainder of the year. And we're just finalizing our plans for when we would start up production in 2021. But it's likely to be early 2021.
Okay. Thank you very much.
Thank you. Your next question is from Chris Thompson from PI Financial. Chris, please go ahead.
Hi, guys. Just a couple of quick questions. We'll start off with Haile here. I know you spoke a little bit about meeting, I guess, your production guidance. What about the cost guidance there?
Was there any adjustments made in the cost guidance? Obviously, everything is tracking in a good direction there, but it seems to be a little bit of a stretch to meet the $8.50 to $900 an ounce AISC cost guidance?
Scott, could you speak to that, please?
Sure, Mick. Yes. We expect to come in, as Michael and Mick said, towards the bottom of the production guidance. But no, we won't be hitting the guidance, individual guidance on Haile. It will be similar levels that we've seen in the current quarter.
We didn't provide individual site by site updates given the uncertainty around Didipio and how that flows into the equation.
All right. Great. Thanks. And then just quickly, I mean, obviously, the standard goal, I think, is to ramp up firstly to, what is it, 3,500,000 tonne a year there. Getting a sense when you're
going to be able to
achieve that? Obviously, you're beginning to achieve that right now, But what can we expect to put by way of steady state?
Jim or last year?
Cheers, Nick. Yes, thanks for the question. We're already at a steady state. We're hitting that level now. Like I mentioned before, when Michael was asking me about the balance, it's all an issue of getting the mine to be able to adequately feed the plant on a regular basis, but it's getting better and better all the time.
And what we're looking at right now into the future is trying to see how we can blend your basic mine sheet with and maybe taking in some lower grade stocks at an incremental cost and see what we can do to fully maximize the tonnage throughput on that plant. So that's where our heads are at right now looking into the future.
Great. Thanks for that. And then just finally, just over to Macraes quickly, I guess, on more specifically Golden Point. Can you just remind us again where are we with the economic studies on that as far as timing as well?
So I think yes, the studies for Golden Point will be done next year, probably finished around the second half of next year. But we're starting, obviously, doing our budgeting process and getting lots of mine plans together with some assumptions being made around that. But the 40 three-1 101 will be updated for the second half of next year.
Great. Okay, guys. Thanks a lot.
Thank you. Your next question is from David Taylor, Buck Taylor Asset Management. David, please go ahead.
Hi there, Mick. To say
the stock price underperformance is disappointing, I think, would be an understatement.
One of
the ways that our shareholders had some sort of insurance and protection from issues like this with Didipio in the Philippines was that you'd always espouse that Philippines was a it was a land of laws, very much having a constitution like the U. S. And yet here we were at the provincial level, we lost a court ruling, even though you had a letter from the Minister of Mines saying you had a permit to operate, even though your FTA had expired. Now here we are waiting for an appeal ruling where we thought that the ruling would come a lot sooner than it has. So I just wonder if there's something else going on here.
So my question is this. After the Gina Lopez tobacco, I'm just wondering what precautions the company took to protect itself from things like this. I'm wondering if the company has the proper people on the ground or representation at the local board level. And then my question number 2 is, you didn't talk about any contingency plans. If we're here 6 months down the road, you still don't have an FTAA or you still haven't had an appeal ruling from the federal courts, what is the game plan?
Good question. Look, we have since the Gina Lopez incident, we have improved our capability, our capacity in dealing with these issues. And we have had a team working on this for over 18 months. It is disappointing that the courts haven't been efficient, but it is still going through the motions with the court of appeal. It wasn't surprising that the local court, the provincial court did not give us the injunction.
Although having said that, we were hopeful. But it isn't surprising given the way those provincial courts work. But the Court of Appeals is the beast and we're still going through that process. I think it's important to remember that this is the first time that the FTA has been renewed. We are very close to getting it renewed and we are confident that it will be.
In terms of contingency plans, we'll obviously the company can operate with the other 3 operations. We can fund our organic growth opportunities. We have a very strong debt banking syndicate And this is part of the journey. And then when Didipio comes back online, then we'll be back to business as usual. I sympathize, I empathize with you.
It hurts me more than it hurts you, David, I can assure you with respect to the frustration caused by the what's going on with the government and the court system in the Philippines. But we do have good people on the ground. We do have good connections and we will always uphold our values and operate responsibly in the Philippines as we do in every other country around the world.
Thank you. Your next question is from Geordie Mark from Haywood Securities. Please go ahead.
Good morning. Good afternoon. And I just maybe a quick one, I think you got it at this one, the Didvio. Given the plant can operate, I guess, on a short term basis, well above the nameplate and given the ramp up requirements, how long are you going to say next year Could you sort of delay start or delay receipt of some approval process to still maintain your maximum production or your ceiling sort of permitted production rate?
Jordy, we can't hear you very, very faint. Can you repeat the question, please?
Yes, mate. I'll try and get a bit better. Yes, just wondering, given that you can produce at a faster rate on a short term basis through the plant at Didipio than the 3,500,000 tonne per annum capacity. Just wondering what flexibility you have next year for a delayed start into next year to still get your 3,500,000 tons throughput? What sort of flexibility do you have there?
Well, generally, it's about 1 month flexibility there. We know the plant can do probably 4,000,000 tons per annum, so it's about a month, Geordie.
Okay, great. I'll leave it there. Plenty of questions beforehand. Thanks.
Thank you. Your next question is from John Tumazos from John Tumazos Very Independent Research. Please go ahead.
Thank you for taking my question and for your service to the company. I hate to ask this question again or a different way, but in the region of Didipio in the Philippines, is it a separatist movement or a region that the central government doesn't control? And are there nickel or other mining companies that haven't respected the environment
Yes, thanks for that question. It's a provincial issue. We have the support of the national government, and this is an issue just with the province of Neoviscaya. We do have 2 provinces that the mine overlaps and that the Corino province as well. We have no problem with the Governor of Corino and his council.
The issue is only with the Nevobitskaya government. And there is another gold mine in Nevobits near which continues to operate unaffected. So there are no other mines in the province.
Thank you.
Thank you. There are no more questions from the phone line.
We'll pass over to Sam now. I think there might be some questions online. Sam?
Yes, Mick, there are no questions on the Q and A Board either. So over to you, Mick, to conclude.
That concludes our webcast and our conference call. There will be a replay available on our website later today. On behalf of the team, Michael, Scott, Jim and myself, thank you for joining. Bye for now.
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