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Earnings Call: Q1 2024

Feb 13, 2024

Operator

Good morning. My name is Krista, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Organigram Holdings First Quarter Fiscal 2024 Earnings Conference Call. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. We ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up question. You may requeue if you have any further questions. Thank you. Max Schwartz, you may begin your conference.

Max Schwartz
Director of Investor Relations, Organigram Holdings Inc.

Good morning, and thank you for joining us today. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded, and a recording will be available on Organigram's website 24 hours after today's call. Listeners should be aware that today's call will include estimates and other forward-looking information from which the company's actual results could differ. Please review the cautionary language in our press release, dated February 13, 2024, on various factors, assumptions, and risks that could cause our actual results to differ. Further reference will be made to certain non-IFRS measures during this call, including adjusted EBITDA, free cash flow, and adjusted gross margin, among others. These measures do not have any standardized meaning under IFRS and are intended to provide additional information, and as such, should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for measures of performance prepared in accordance with IFRS.

Our approach to calculating these measures may differ from other issuers, so these measures may not be directly comparable. Please see today's earnings report for more information about these measures. In this call, references to fiscal 2023 are to the 13-month period from September 1st, 2022, through September 30th, 2023. Listeners should also be aware that the company relies on reputable third-party providers on making certain statements relating to market share data. Unless otherwise indicated, all references to market data are sourced from Hifyre in combination with data from WeedCrawler, provincial boards, retailers, and our internal sales figures. Today, we'll be hearing from key members of our senior leadership team, beginning with Beena Goldenberg, Chief Executive Officer, who will provide opening remarks and commentary, followed by Greg Guyatt, Chief Financial Officer, who will review our quarterly financial results for Q1 fiscal 2024.

Also joining us for the question and answer segment is Tim Emberg, Chief Commercial Officer. As a reminder to our analysts and institutional investors on the call today, we are pleased to invite you to join us at our Investor Day at our Moncton, New Brunswick facility on the evening of April 9th for dinner and the morning of April 10th, where we will offer a tour of our flagship facility and showcase our science-backed product development pipeline and more. If you have not yet received an invitation or would like more information about the event, please contact me via email. My email address can always be found at the bottom of our press releases. I will now introduce Beena Goldenberg, Chief Executive Officer of Organigram Holdings, Inc. Please go ahead, Ms. Goldenberg.

Beena Goldenberg
CEO, Organigram Holdings Inc.

Thank you, Max. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining our call today and for your continued support of Organigram. Throughout fiscal 2023, with the dedication of our 1,000 employees across three facilities and our corporate head office, we demonstrated record-breaking international sales for the company, introduced award-winning products, completed extensive efficiency-driving CapEx projects, and expanded our market share in key growth categories, reaching the number two spot among LPs, all while maintaining our negligible debt position. We then started fiscal 2024 off on a strong footing, securing the CAD 124.6 million strategic investment from our dedicated partner, BAT, at a premium of over 100% to Organigram's share price at the time of announcement.

With this transformational deal now formally approved by shareholders and the first tranche of CAD 41.5 million now closed, Organigram will focus on delivering on its objective of being a global cannabis leader, driven by geographic and product expansion, backed by industry-leading innovation. Two-thirds of the CAD 124.6 million investment will be used by Organigram to create a strategic investment pool named Jupiter. Jupiter will target investments in emerging cannabis opportunities internationally that will enable Organigram to apply its industry-leading capabilities in products, brands, and cultivation to new markets. We have identified geographic expansion as a strategic priority, and this opportunity presents the company with the capital to lay global foundations as emerging cannabis markets continue to see significant growth. We have seen tremendous interest from cannabis companies looking for partnership opportunities and growth capital.

Organigram is now uniquely positioned to take advantage of these opportunities. Organigram continues to differentiate itself as a leader with its flagship facility in Moncton, which we believe is the largest indoor cannabis facility of its kind. With over 130 microclimates, three-tiered grow rooms, and in-house lab testing, we could grow and test a multitude of cultivars and dial in their growing conditions without interrupting the growth cycles of our other popular strains. Our facility's unique characteristics, recently enhanced by most of our CAD 29 million in efficiency-driving CapEx projects completed last year, present several other advantages. The demand for flower in the international markets is growing, as is the competition for these markets, which makes providing novel and stable cultivars a priority.

Organigram has the capabilities to quickly trial and test unique cultivars in controlled environments, allowing us to tailor our production to address the needs of key international partners. We recently completed our first shipment to Germany, and we anticipate our first U.K.-bound flower to ship out in the near term, and we are also negotiating with additional partners in other jurisdictions. Organigram's position as a key export partner to cannabis distributors abroad is expected to be further enhanced by the EU GMP certification at the Moncton facility, which is expected later this year, subject to the successful completion of an audit. Organigram has also began transitioning part of its garden to seed-based production. Seed-based production is the preferred method in mature agricultural markets, as it produces more robust plants and is cheaper and faster to conduct on a large scale.

We began this process in December 2023, and we'll provide updates on our progress in subsequent quarters. Moncton is also home to the Centre of Excellence , the dedicated research and development facility where BAT and Organigram collaborate on product development and scientific research. In December 2023, Organigram was successful in validating molecular markers for powdery mildew resistance and validated assays related to terpene synthesis. Furthermore, pharmacokinetic studies relating to nano-emulsified ingestible formulas are now complete, with results currently being compiled and analyzed. This will allow us to quantify the onset time and peak cannabinoid levels in the blood, so we can substantiate these claims with consumers. Our R&D capabilities are beginning to more rapidly translate to technical know-how, that is expected to provide Organigram with competitive advantages for years to come.

Spanning from more robust plants to better consumer experiences, backed by science and rigorous testing protocols. Now, while our Moncton facility can supply our domestic and international markets with an annual capacity of approximately 90,000 kg per year, our facilities in Winnipeg and Lac-Supérieur are also key elements of our ongoing success. Our dedicated edibles facility in Winnipeg is capable of producing over 4 million gummies per month, supporting Organigram's position at quarter end as the number two edibles producer in Canada, with over 18% market share, and the number one pure CBD edibles producer, with almost 2/3 of the market share in the segment. We are also very excited to introduce our nano-emulsion gummies to the market by the fall of 2024.

Our newly expanded craft cannabis and hash facility in Lac-Supérieur has now completed four craft harvests, and the facility is producing approximately 2 million units of hash annually. According to internal models, cross-referenced with figures from BDSA, Organigram is the largest legal hash producer in the world and commands over 20% of the hash market in Canada as of the end of Q1. In keeping with our core strength of innovation, we are pleased that our first-to-market Rip-Strip hash innovation is performing well in the market, and that we have successfully grown the hash category by bringing in new users with this flavorful and easy-to-use format. With our three facilities now fully expanded and equipped with substantial automation capabilities, Organigram is poised to more aggressively compete in the ready-to-consume product category, as consumers are displaying a clear preference today for convenience and quality.

In Q1 fiscal 2024, ready-to-consume products made up 46.5% of sales, compared to 37% in the same period last year. In Q1 2024, Organigram produced and sold over 8 million pre-rolls. If you were to line up all these pre-rolls end to end, they would span the distance of approximately 780 km. So essentially, we could light up a path from Toronto to New York City. The investments we made in our pre-roll processes in fiscal 2023, and the ensuing ramp-up, have led to a 38% increase in tube-style pre-roll production run rate, a 100% improvement in packaging throughput, and a 150% improvement in the rate that we produce our SHRED Heavies. Our ability to consistently compete in a difficult cannabis landscape is a testament to Organigram's unwavering dedication to its consumer and its craft.

In fiscal Q1 2024, Organigram was the top 3 LP in all major categories, excluding vapes, and a top 5 LP in market shares in all regions across Canada. We began the quarter in the number 2 position among LPs, with a 6.7% market share, and maintained this position while growing our market share to 7.3% in December. As of the end of Q1, Organigram maintained the number 2 market position among LPs for 5 consecutive months, and in December 2023, we had our strongest month ever, with CAD 33.5 million in retail sales, driven by consumer receptiveness to innovation in tube-style pre-rolls, infused pre-rolls, and gummies. The reintroduction of Jolts was a large contributing factor to our success in the quarter as well, with CAD 2.9 million in shipped sales in Q1.

One of our key domestic areas of focus for fiscal 2024 will be to increase our share of the vape category, which we believe will unlock market share gains. In support of this goal, Organigram has recently launched its new vaporization hardware, resulting from its strategic investment in Greentank , which is anticipated to increase flavor, performance, and potency per puff, while decreasing clogging, a major consumer pain point. Looking at our earnings for the quarter, which Greg will expand on shortly, we are pleased to deliver adjusted gross margins, which return to our previously reported levels. We also delivered positive adjusted EBITDA and cash flow from operations of CAD 7.7 million. Contributing to these improvements were our growth in the pre-roll category and the reintroduction of Edison Jolts to the market.

As we focus on driving domestic and international market share gains through continued innovation and expansion into vapes, refining our product and geographic mix, and reaping the benefits from increased automation at our facilities, we expect our margins to demonstrate more stability in fiscal 2024 compared to fiscal 2023. On a year-over-year basis, we expect both revenue and incremental margin growth. I will now hand the call over to Greg to review our financial performance for the quarter.

Greg Guyatt
CFO, Organigram Holdings Inc.

Thank you, Beena. It's a pleasure to be here today as a new member of the Organigram team. I've been involved in the cannabis industry for many years now, and I've watched Organigram grow its leadership position in Canada. So I am very pleased to join this incredibly focused and disciplined team, and particularly pleased to join at such a pivotal time in the company's evolution. As Beena mentioned, we started off the quarter achieving positive Adjusted EBITDA and positive cash flow from operations, demonstrating our investments in automation and our commitment to long-term efficiencies are beginning to pay off. Q1 fiscal 2024 growth and net revenue decreased by 8% and 16% respectively, primarily due to net decreases in international revenue of CAD 4.8 million and medical sales of CAD 1 million when compared to Q1 fiscal 2023.

Organigram's cost of sales in Q1 fiscal 2024 was CAD 27.3 million, compared to CAD 31.6 million in Q1 fiscal 2023, representing a decrease of 14%. The decrease in cost of sales over the same prior year period is primarily due to lower medical and international sales and lower cultivation and post-harvest costs. Included in Q1 fiscal 2024's cost of sales were CAD 1.7 million of inventory provisions that primarily related to net realizable value adjustments of inventories. We harvested approximately 20,000 kilograms of flower during Q1 fiscal 2024, compared to about 22,000 kilograms in Q1 fiscal 2023, which represents a decrease of 11%. The decrease was primarily attributable to changes in our cultivar mix to address changing consumer preferences.

While yields and THC content will fluctuate over time, the trend we have seen over the last two years has been larger yields and higher potencies. In Q1, Organigram experienced a 53% increase in flower produce containing more than 24% THC. Anticipated higher yields should reduce the cost of cultivation in the long run. As this flower is sold, we expect to achieve a higher growth margin rate. In Q1 fiscal 2024, adjusted gross margin increased to 31% or CAD 11.2 million, up from 30% or CAD 12.8 million in Q1 fiscal 2023. The increase in the adjusted gross margin rate was primarily due to lower cultivation and post-harvest costs, lower depreciation expense, and resumed sales of Edison Jolt, partially offset by lower international sales.

As Beena mentioned, in comparison to Q4 fiscal 2024, where adjusted gross margin was 17%, we achieved a marked improvement in adjusted gross margin in Q1. In Q1, SG&A increased to CAD 16.7 million, compared to CAD 15.7 million in Q1 fiscal 2023, or an increase of 7%. The increase in expenses mainly relates to foreign exchange losses on foreign currency denominated receivables as the Canadian dollar weakened during Q1 fiscal 2023 and strengthened in Q1 fiscal 2024, and higher professional fees primarily related to Project Jupiter. These are partially offset by lower depreciation resulting from impairment charges recorded in fiscal year 2023.

We are pleased to report that in the quarter, we returned to positive adjusted EBITDA of CAD 136 thousand, compared to Q4 fiscal 2023's adjusted EBITDA of -CAD 2.4 million, representing an increase of CAD 2.5 million. We anticipate adjusted EBITDA to exceed fiscal 2023's adjusted EBITDA. Net loss for Q1 fiscal 2024 was CAD 15.8 million, compared to net income of CAD 5.3 million in the same prior period. The increase in net loss from the comparative period is primarily due to a lower gross margin, resulting from a reduction in the gain on fair value of biological assets. From a statement of cash flow perspective, net cash provided by operating activities was CAD 7.7 million in Q1 fiscal 2024, compared to CAD 3.5 million in the prior year period.

The increase in cash provided by operating activities was primarily due to a return to historical working capital levels after a planned reduction in accounts payable in advance of our ERP go-live. Cash provided by investing activities in Q1 was CAD 0.4 million, compared to cash used of CAD 1.7 million in Q1 fiscal 2023. The increase compared to the prior year period was primarily due to higher purchases of property, plant, and equipment of CAD 8.4 million in Q1 fiscal 2023, partially offset by proceeds from the net redemption of short-term investments of CAD 5.1 million. We are pleased to state that we have one of the healthiest balance sheets in the space. As of December 31, 2023, we had a total cash position of CAD 54.6 million, including both restricted and unrestricted cash.

This does not include the $41.5 million we received from BAT in January. By way of reminder, half of the $41.5 million dollar tranche will be allocated to Organigram's operating cash in Q2 fiscal 2024, while the other half will be allocated to Project Jupiter. Overall, we are pleased with our results for the quarter, which saw Organigram once again deliver positive adjusted EBITDA and improved adjusted gross margins. While the company expects to continue to report growth in year-over-year adjusted EBITDA, periods when the company achieves significant increases to sales may result in increases to receivables, which could negatively impact cash from operating activities. This concludes my comments. I will now turn the call back to Beena.

Beena Goldenberg
CEO, Organigram Holdings Inc.

Thank you, Greg. As has been the case historically, Organigram will continue to drive growth and shareholder value through an industry-leading focus on innovation and the integration of new technologies that provide sustainable competitive advantages for the company and differentiated experiences for consumers at home and abroad. We also continue to leverage our leadership position in the industry to advocate for much-needed reform in the sector that will not, that will not only level the playing field for all companies, but also support the development and growth of a sustainable industry in the long term. We believe that the cannabis industry in Canada has begun to reach an inflection point that will remove supply from the market and accelerate consolidation.

Companies engaging in THC inflation, who have dubiously enjoyed temporary competitive advantages through artificially inflating their label THC content, are facing more pressure as Health Canada and the OCS have announced random THC testing protocols. We have also seen the CRA begin to garnish companies who are in arrears on their excise taxes, and many companies are already stretching their payables to preserve cash. As capital markets have dried up and increased enforcement removes unfair advantages and penalizes those who don't contribute to the health of our sector, the Canadian market will experience a shakeout. As this materializes, Organigram stands to cement itself as a long-term industry leader, owing to its strong balance sheet, increasing production efficiency, industry-leading R&D, and reinvigorated focus on international expansion, supported by Project Jupiter.

Once again, we thank you for joining us today and for your continued support of Organigram during a very exciting time for the company. We look forward to seeing as many of you as possible at our Investor Day in April, and should you have any questions, please feel free to contact Max. Thank you, and I will now open the call for questions.

Operator

If you would like to ask a question, please press star, followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, again, press star one. Your first question comes from the line of Aaron Grey from Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Aaron Grey
Managing Director of Equity Research, Alliance Global Partners

Hi, good morning, and thank you very much for the questions. Nice to see the gross margin improvement during the quarter, along with some of the other achievements you had. Quickly, on the gross margin, right, so a nice uptick in the quarter. You talked about some of the levers that participated to that. So when you think about lower post-harvest costs, depreciation, along with some of the mix with Jolts, what would have been the biggest contributor, you know, sequentially? You know, it looks like if you back into some of the P&L, it might have been depreciation, but if you could offer further color, that'd be greatly appreciated. And then on the go forward, you know, how do we think about mix contributing to the margin, particularly as we think about vapes?

You know, historically, it's been one of the more tougher formats to be profitable in. So if you could offer any comments with how you're thinking about margin and mix as you look to increase your share in vape? Thanks.

Beena Goldenberg
CEO, Organigram Holdings Inc.

Perfect. Thank you, Aaron, for the question. I'll pass the first part of the question over to Greg to talk about the gross margin, and then I'll take on the mix part of the question. So go ahead, Greg.

Greg Guyatt
CFO, Organigram Holdings Inc.

Sure. Thanks, Beena. Well, first of all, we believe we've set ourselves up to drive higher margins throughout 2024 and beyond. And really, as you mentioned, it's an increasing production efficiencies from continuing to dial in our automated processes, such as around our pre-roll production. And we're gonna see eventual savings and higher yields related to the seed-based transition as well. We're also gonna see contribution from flower at Laurentian, ultimately, as well. And on the international side, it's really gonna be driven by EU GMP, which will help improve our margins on that front. Also contributing, we'll have some new innovation, as we mentioned before, around the nanoemulsion and further expansion into vapes. So as I said, I think those factors will continue to drive margin improvements as we get through the rest of the year.

Beena?

Beena Goldenberg
CEO, Organigram Holdings Inc.

Okay, great. Thanks, Greg. And just building on what Greg said, so when you asked Aaron about the mix, and while, you know, vapes has been a competitive market in the past, for us, vapes is a big opportunity for improved mix because, you know, we're competing in the flower space that has the slimmest of margins. And so this is a great opportunity for us and totally incremental. We're not cannibalizing an existing business. We come in with products that is differentiated with our Greentank investment being in the vaporization technology. So we're very excited about what that could contribute. But just as I mentioned in the script, at the end of the day, our ready-to-consume products are growing, and that's what's driving the growth in the category versus just flower, right?

It's all about convenience as consumers are looking for it. So as we convert from flower to pre-roll, as we convert people from pre-rolls to vapes and to gummies, to some of the derivatives, that's the mix that's gonna improve our domestic recreational business. And then, obviously, the impact of international sales. We had a low international sale in this quarter, and we expect to have growing international sales as we look out, especially as a result of adding the EU GMP benefit that we expect to have sometime this summer. So at the end of the day, you know, that's what's gonna drive our improved mix.

We're still very, you know, proud of our flower category, but the category overall, the industry is changing, and ready to consume is becoming a bigger part of it, and we're participating in both gummies, infused pre-rolls, and pre-rolls in a big way.

Aaron Grey
Managing Director of Equity Research, Alliance Global Partners

Thank you. Really appreciate that color from both you, Greg and Beena. Second question for me, you know, often in industry, we've talked about the need for a shakeout. Beena, you talked about in your prepared remarks, you know, one of the issues that you had called out a few quarters ago, as being a greater need in terms of THC inflation, and now there's some THC testing protocols that you mentioned. Unpaid taxes are something that we've known about in the industry, and you also called out how those might be being cut down as well. And basically, it seemed that you might have a, you had a somewhat of a different tone in terms of that shakeout maybe being more on the doorstep than maybe we had seen in the past.

So, just any more color you can offer in terms of what you might be seeing, you know, incrementally. You mentioned the prepared remarks to why we might see more of a shakeout in the industry in 2024 than what we might have expected to see in past years but didn't quite come to fruition. Thank you.

Beena Goldenberg
CEO, Organigram Holdings Inc.

Yes, no problem. So absolutely, we were a big, you know, we talked a lot about THC inflation, and I'm not sure we've seen the full impact of the benefits of both the OCS random testing and Health Canada testing, because we still see, you know, THC inflation is alive and well out in the market. We actually see that, flower over 25% THC has been up versus last year. It now represents 77% of all flower sales, where a year ago, it was up 42%. So it was 42% of the flowers. So we are seeing continued higher THC, and we are still seeing random testing showing that there are several players out there continuing to identify their THC flower as higher potency than it really is.

But we expect this is gonna somehow start to stop as testing continues and the boards are challenging. You know, we've heard anecdotally some boards are pushing back on over 30% flower and asking for secondary testing. So that's that is gonna take time to to kind of happen through the industry, but we're excited to see that it's starting to be addressed. But why do I think the you know, the consolidation or the shakeout is gonna happen? And I think it's in the next 12 months, and that's because we've been watching very carefully the cash of different companies, when the debt is due, that how people are stretching their payables. And what was giving some of these players in the industry more runway, was the ability to not pay their excise taxes.

This really wasn't a fair playing field, you know. A company like Organigram paid our excise taxes on time, but, but, you know, there were stories up to 80% of cannabis companies out there were not paying, their excise taxes on time, or in some cases, not paying them at all. And what is new news, and we saw a little bit of this last year, where, you know, the CRA went in to a couple of LPs last year, couldn't see any hope of getting their, excise duties repaid and closed them down. But what's really the new news that we started to hear at the start of this, calendar year is that the CRA has started to ask the provinces to garnish their payments to the LPs so that, for their amounts owing in arrears excise taxes.

What this means is, companies that were planning to leverage that money aren't gonna have that opportunity going forward. I think this is gonna be the real change that we're gonna see in the next 6-12 months, where that, with that cash not being available, and of course, the boards aren't happy about having to do this work and might even choose to stop ordering as much from those LPs. I think this is gonna be the dynamic change that accelerates that shakeout. I mean, we all talked about the fact that it needs to happen. We're too fragmented an industry, and we're proud to be the number 2 LP, but, you know, with 7.3% market share at the end of December, it's still a very small market share compared to what a normal mature category would have.

This is necessary, and we do think it's coming.

Aaron Grey
Managing Director of Equity Research, Alliance Global Partners

Thank you. Really helpful color there on your view of the market. So really appreciate it, and I'll jump back in the queue.

Beena Goldenberg
CEO, Organigram Holdings Inc.

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Frederico Gomes from ATB Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Frederico Gomes
Director of Institutional Research, ATB Capital Markets

Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. My first question is just on your first shipment to Germany. I'm just curious about, you know, your expectations for that market, given the potential vote, you know, happening soon there in terms of legalization. And also in terms of your EU GMP certification, can you just maybe provide a little bit more color on exactly how does that impact your international exports? Thank you.

Beena Goldenberg
CEO, Organigram Holdings Inc.

Sure. So first, about our German shipment. So, we had announced the agreement with the Sanity Group a while ago, and as we work through the appropriate stability testing and regulatory requirements, we're excited that we finally got our first shipment out, into the German market. And as you said, you know, with a recent ruling that, they're gonna remove cannabis from the narcotics identified as a narcotic, it will open up the medical market. It's anticipated on the conservative side, that the medical market will grow 2-3 times this year. So we're very excited about the opportunity to increase our shipments to our partner now in Germany.

And so, yes, Germany might not be as exciting as it was about a year ago when everybody thought adult rec was coming, but, you know, just like Canada evolved, we're gonna get into a growing medical market first and they're testing pilot facilities and pilots on rec, and we'll see where that goes. But we're still very interested in the German market as a result of that. And then your second question around our EU GMP certification. So, we have gone through the work to get ourself ready for the audit. How it works with an EU GMP certification is you have to get somebody over from a European jurisdiction to come in and do the audit.

So it's a little bit difficult to confirm exactly when that will be scheduled, but we've done our homework. We believe we're audit ready, and are just waiting for that, for that auditor to come over. What this will mean to us once we get certified is that instead of having to move our GACP flower through a facility such as in Portugal or one of these converters, who would then package it up and available for a European market, we'd be able to ship directly. In the case of Australia, having GMP would allow us to package our product and ship it to Australia, rather than selling bulk product. In both of these cases, it would be higher margin business for us without requiring a middleman touching the product.

We're very excited about opening up more markets available to us with the EU GMP, and the ability to take out the middleman by shipping direct.

Frederico Gomes
Director of Institutional Research, ATB Capital Markets

Thank you for the call. That's great. Thank you, Beena. So, my next question is just, you know, I think the US market, you have always said that you're looking at it, and you think it, you know, is a potential long-term opportunity. We recently saw a competitor of yours that appears to be approaching a structure that would be compliant with the Nasdaq to get, you know, plant-touching exposure there. So I'm just curious, if you would consider pursuing something similar? How do you look at it, you know, given that you are also a Nasdaq listed? Thank you.

Beena Goldenberg
CEO, Organigram Holdings Inc.

Yes, thanks, Fred. So first of all, we did our first investment in the U.S., last year in May, when we invested in Phylos Bioscience. And so we did take some time to figure out how to set up the structure in a way that would be obviously compliant with our Nasdaq and TSX listings. And at the same time, have some benefit to our organization, and that's where we were able to access the high concentration of THCV flower, as well as the seeds, to allow us to move into seed-based production. So it was an investment in the U.S., and although you can't consolidate, it was, there was benefit to our existing business.

So we will look at the U.S. for sure with Project Jupiter, as well as other emerging markets, but the U.S. will be a focus. And I could comfortably say that, we've received many inbounds. There's a high interest, because there's a lot of companies that are capital constrained. So, we're actively looking, and we are going to explore, you know, any of these tested instruments that we've seen other people use around how to get a compliant structure. But at the end of the day, look, we're looking at several verticals. So if we're looking at investing in MSOs, SSOs, or even brand plays, we recognize those are more difficult to structure, and those will probably take us a little bit longer.

Where we expect that there'll be, an easier approach in the short term, would be IP-focused, opportunities and hemp-derived THC plays that we could consolidate, and that could have a direct impact on us. So we're already in, conversations today with certain, companies, and we're excited about the opportunity. But again, we'll watch how other companies structure compliantly and learn from that. We don't have to reinvent the wheel, and we're excited about these opportunities going forward.

Frederico Gomes
Director of Institutional Research, ATB Capital Markets

Thank you very much. I'll hop back in the queue. Thank you.

Operator

Again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Your next question comes from the line of Yewon Kang from Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

Yewon Kang
Equity Research Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Hi there. Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. This is Yewon Kang off through Matt Bottomley. So I just wanted to ask a question about, the international, strategic investment arm that you guys are trying to set up right now. Wanted to ask if those initial expectations in terms of where you guys wanted to deploy that capital has changed at all in the past few months, just because, you know, one of your peers recently announced that they're going to be acquiring a medical cannabis company in Australia, and this has been a market that has been ramping up quite a bit and seems that a lot of Canadian LPs are taking interest in that market. So just wanted to see if, if any of your expectations have kind of gone away from US focus into more international focus? Thanks.

Beena Goldenberg
CEO, Organigram Holdings Inc.

No, thank you for your question. So, you know, when we originally announced Project Jupiter, we did say that we would have a strong focus on the U.S., but we also left room for international markets. And, you know, we are interested in exploring markets like Germany and markets like Australia. Obviously, we ship our export business to both Australia, and we've just shipped to Germany, and we expect to actually ship any time now to the U.K. So there are other markets that are interesting, and those markets will allow us to have a more direct impact on our business versus the U.S. So there's gonna be a balancing approach. We will do some investments in some of those other markets, and we'll see what are the best opportunities for us that meets our long-term strategic goals.

A good chunk of the Jupiter investment will happen in the U.S., because that is an opportunity for the future that we want to set ourself up for. So, yes, we'll look at Australia, and we'll look at Germany, and you know, we'll see what the right opportunities are, and hopefully, we'll have news to share in the next few months.

Yewon Kang
Equity Research Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Thank you for the call. I'll jump back into the queue.

Operator

We have no further questions in our queue at this time. I will now turn the call back to management for closing remarks.

Beena Goldenberg
CEO, Organigram Holdings Inc.

Well, thank you, everybody, for joining the call today. As I could tell, there's a lot of interest in our next steps on our Jupiter investment pool, and we're equally excited about this next stage of Organigram's evolution. We continue to be proud of the work we do every day in the domestic market, in Canada. With that, I'll close out today's call and look forward to updating you soon on our second quarter. As a reminder, please come out to see our facility and come join us on our Investor Day in April. Thank you again for joining.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation, and you may now disconnect.

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