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Earnings Call: Q2 2022

Jul 27, 2022

Carey Ford
CFO and Senior VP, Precision Drilling

Thank you, Michelle, and good afternoon. Before we begin our call, I'm pleased to introduce Lavonne Zdunich, who joined Precision a little over a month ago as Director of Investor Relations. Lavonne will be overseeing investor relations activities for Precision, and we are delighted to have her on our team. With that, I'll hand it over to Lavonne.

Lavonne Zdunich
Director of Investor Relations, Precision Drilling

Welcome to Precision Drilling's 2022 second quarter earnings conference call and webcast. Participating on today's call with me will be Kevin Neveu, President and CEO, and Carey Ford, our CFO. Earlier this morning, Precision reported strong second quarter results, which Carey will review with you, followed by an operational update and outlook commentary from Kevin. Once we have finished our prepared comments, we will open the call to questions. Some of our comments today will refer to non-IFRS financial measures and will include forward-looking statements, which are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties. Please see our news release and other regulatory filings for more information on financial measures, forward-looking statements, and risk factors. As a reminder, we express our financial results in Canadian dollars unless otherwise indicated. Kevin, over to you for some introductory comments.

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Thank you, Lavonne, and good afternoon. For today's earnings call, I'd like to draw your attention to three key themes. First, customer demand for our Super Triple drilling rigs in our U.S. and Canadian markets continues to strengthen. With extremely limited industry supply, rates and margins continue to increase. Second, we continue to make excellent progress maximizing operational leverage, tightly controlling our costs, and expanding our margins. Our well servicing acquisition will deliver cost synergies and field margin leverage, and all of our leading indicators are pointing to stronger financial performance for the remainder of this year and through 2023. Third, we are firmly on track to deliver on all 2022 strategic priorities, which includes scaling our digital and ESG offerings, generating free cash flow and strengthening our balance sheet, and reducing both debt and debt leverage.

I'll now ask Carey to review our second quarter financial results.

Carey Ford
CFO and Senior VP, Precision Drilling

Thanks, Kevin. Precision's revenue in the second quarter was CAD 326 million, 62% higher than the same period last year. While Adjusted EBITDA of CAD 64 million more than doubled from Q2 2021. On a normalized basis, Adjusted EBITDA, if we exclude stock-based compensation and the well control event, was CAD 75 million. The results reflect steadily increasing North American drilling activity and demonstrate our success in maximizing operational leverage to expand margins. Q2 drilling activity increased 41% in the U.S. and 35% in Canada compared to the same period last year, and day rates increased 25% in the U.S. and 30% in Canada. During the quarter, we experienced a well control event on a turnkey project in the U.S. The crew followed proper procedures and was able to evacuate the well site safely with no injuries.

We are appreciative of our field leadership's actions resulting in this safe outcome. As for the accounting for the event, we are recognizing a gain on disposal of approximately $4 million, the difference between the net book value and the insured value of the rig. We are booking zero revenue, a loss of $5 million for the cost of the job and the insurance deductible. We are writing off the net book value of the rig of $1 million through depreciation. For the associated well site cleanup and remediation cost, we are accruing $12 million in accounts payable and offsetting the payable with $16 million in insurance receivables, which covers the expected cleanup and remediation cost and the insured value of the rig, minus a $1 million deductible associated with the turnkey job.

The remediation process is ongoing and any decreases or increases in costs will be reflected on Precision's balance sheet until insurance proceeds are received. For the quarter, the negative impact to Adjusted EBITDA was $6.5 million , CAD 6.5 million, and we expect this to be the only income statement charge associated with the event. We expect the cash impact of this event to be neutral once insurance proceeds are received. Moving to the U.S., our daily operating margins for the quarter, absent any turnkey or IBC impact, was $7,174, $1,505 higher than Q1, and in line with our guidance of a $1,500 per day increase.

With repricing of spot market rigs, impact of Alpha Technologies, and improved fixed cost absorption, we expect normalized margins to increase by approximately $2,000-$2,500 per day in Q3, resulting in average margins in the mid-$9,000s per day for the quarter and moving through $10,000 per day into the fourth quarter. As a reminder, on our Q2 call last year, we forecasted U.S. field margins to bottom during the second half of 2021, which played out with daily margins hovering in the low-to-mid $5,000s per day through the first quarter of this year. With our forward guidance, we are projecting field margins to nearly double from Q1 to Q4 and continue to increase into 2023. In Canada, our operating margin was CAD 7,736 per day in Q2.

Excluding the impact of CEWS in 2021, our quarterly daily margin increased CAD 2,489 per day and significantly exceeded our guidance of a CAD 500 per day increase. Our strong margin performance was supported by higher day rates, Alpha Technologies, and increased labor and cost recoveries. Of note is our higher daily operating cost during the quarter. We have previously communicated inflationary impacts within our daily operating costs, mainly labor and repair and maintenance, and these factors have certainly driven costs higher on both sides of the border. In Canada during the quarter, we incurred additional operating costs due to higher pass-through costs associated with our operations.

We have had productive conversations with our customers about certain operating capital costs, such as excess wear on equipment and provincial taxes, and have agreed to pass through the higher costs, which has resulted in higher daily operating costs and higher day rates. For Q3, we expect daily operating margins to increase to CAD 8,000-CAD 8,500 per day, a year-over-year increase of approximately CAD 3,000 due to improved pricing, impact of Alpha Technologies, increased cost recoveries, and fixed cost absorption. For reference, daily operating margin in Q3 2021, excluding CEWS and one-time recoveries, was CAD 5,303. Moving to our Completion and Production Services segment. Our revenue increased 60% to CAD 33 million, while Adjusted EBITDA was CAD 5 million.

These results were positively impacted by a 14% increase in well service hours and improved pricing as industry-wide shortage of high-quality assets and skilled labor is driving day rates up. Our recent well service acquisition provides needed consolidation within the well service industry. With our expected cost synergies of CAD 5 million annualized and our ability to leverage our scale, we believe this is an accretive transaction with the potential to generate significant cash flow and support our debt reduction strategy. We expect the transaction to close in the coming days. We remain firmly committed to reducing debt by over CAD 400 million between 2022 and 2025, with a target of CAD 75 million this year.

During the quarter, we reduced our senior credit facility balance by CAD 70 million and ended the quarter with CAD 52 million in cash and more than CAD 540 million in available liquidity, excluding letters of credit. Our net debt to trailing twelve-month EBITDA ratio is approximately 4.5 times, and average cost of debt is 6.6%. We expect our net debt to adjusted EBITDA before share-based compensation expense to be closer to 3 times by year-end and decline further into 2023 toward our goal of below 1.5 times. With rising concerns about high-spec rig availability, customers are seeking longer-term commitments, and we are locking in higher day rates with take-or-pay term contracts, particularly for opportunities which require capital for rig upgrades.

This is driving an improved outlook for Precision's free cash flow in the second half of the year and into 2023. To deliver on our customer-backed rig upgrades, of which we expect over 20 during 2022 and certain drill pipe commitments, we are increasing our capital budget to CAD 149 million for the year, up from CAD 125 million. As a reminder, for our upgrades, we require full cash-on-cash payback within the term of the contract and rates of return well above our cost of capital. Moving on to our guidance for 2022. Depreciation is expected to be CAD 275 million. SG&A is expected to be approximately CAD 75 million before share-based compensation expense.

Cash interest expense is expected to be CAD 80 million–CAD 85 million for the year, and cash taxes are expected to remain low, and our effective tax rate will be approximately 5%. I will now turn the call over to Kevin.

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Thank you, Carey. There's no doubt that the customer demand and market tightness we discussed in our first quarter conference call is gaining momentum, and we see this across all North American service lines. In the United States, we are currently operating 57 rigs with confirmed bookings and contracts. We expect activity to climb into the high 60s later this year, and virtually all Precision Super Triple rigs will be active. Day rates continue to rise as industry supply is very tight for this rig class, and customers sensing rig shortages are willingly locking in term contracts at the highest leading edge rates. Since the beginning of this year, we've added 39 term contracts, some of these involving rig upgrades Carey mentioned earlier, ranging from Alpha Automation to the addition of third pumps, fourth generators, and pad walking systems.

Also included are several EverGreen battery energy storage systems, 2 EverGreen HighLine power systems, and the EverGreen power management and emissions monitoring apps. As Carey mentioned, all capital upgrades are backed by take-or-pay contracts, which will return the capital investment well within the contract term. Today, all of Precision's active Super Triple rigs are drilling on multi-well pads and all, virtually all have extended horizontal drilling capabilities. Over two-thirds of these rigs utilize Alpha automation and Alpha apps, and many are adopting Alpha analytics to further enhance drilling performance. Leading-edge day rates for these rigs is now approaching the mid-30s range, with the Alpha digital services over and above that rate. With Alpha and other a la carte services, such as Managed Pressure Drilling support, some bill rates now are in the high 30s to $40,000 per day range.

Market pricing discipline remains a key tactical consideration, and during the quarter, we rejected several bid opportunities with customer pricing expectations below our desired thresholds. We remain keenly focused on improving day rates and margin levels, which will ensure an appropriate financial return on our fleet investment, something we've not seen in several years. As Carey mentioned, our fleet-wide margins bottomed early in the third quarter of last year and have already recovered by approximately CAD 1,500. We expect this margin recovery to pick up pace as leading edge rates and Alpha automation revenues filter through our fleet. As you can see from our previously reported day rate trends and prior guidance, the lag time for fleet averages to approach leading edge rates is typically 6–9 months.

As such, we project a strong cash flow profile for our U.S. drilling business through 2023. Turning to our Canadian market. Activity has rebounded to well above 2019 levels, supported by the strong oil and gas commodity prices. Currently, we are operating 61 rigs and have visibility to over 70 rigs later this quarter. I previously mentioned the Clearwater play, which emerged late last year, but we are seeing strong rebound in conventional heavy oil, SAGD, and strengthening activity in most other oil and gas regions in Canada. The Precision Super Single rig is a rig of choice in conventional heavy oil, SAGD in the Clearwater region, and we expect our utilization to exceed 80% with leading edge rates progressing into the low 20s for this highly cost-effective rig class. In the Montney and Deep Basin, gas and liquids activity remains strong.

Permitting delays in British Columbia have led to several operators diverting activity to Alberta in the interim. Precision's Super Triple 1200 remains a clear rig of choice in the region, with well over half of the pad triple market share. Currently, we're fully booked for a fleet of 28 Super Triples, and we see customer demand exceeding the available rig supply by several rigs for the first quarter of next year. While we do not believe that rising rig rates or even contract terms will stimulate new builds, the pricing tension on Super Triples will continue. This may also drive some incremental demand on the less efficient heavy duty doubles as customers compete for the most efficient rigs available on the market.

It remains possible that we could mobilize one or two more rigs to Canada from the DJ Basin as leading edge rates in Canada continue to push into the thirties for these rigs. Returning to a healthy, profitable, and self-funded service industry is essential for our customers and for our investors. Precision's market position in Canada dictates that we lead the industry recovery for rates, margins, and financial performance. As I mentioned on prior calls, our sales team is committed to pushing rates and marching Precision back to profitability. There's no question this has led to uncomfortable conversations with some customers who have grown accustomed to the excess services supply and entrenched price deflation of the last several years, especially through the pandemic.

Precision's firm pricing discipline has meant rejecting some work where customer pricing expectations are simply too low, or customers are unwilling to accept take-or-pay contracts to cover rig upgrades. The short-term impact is that we've given up market share on the order of 10-12 rigs for Q3, Q4 projects. However, this pricing discipline is essential as we remain committed to returning to profitability and sustaining a strong free cash flow profile. Customer adoption of Alpha automation in Canada has caught up with our U.S. market penetration, as the benefits of Alpha are becoming widely accepted by our Canadian customers. Today, over 60% of our Canadian Super Triple rigs are running Alpha, and we expect this will rise to over 80% by year-end.

We're experiencing strong customer demand in our well servicing business segment and are thrilled to be adding 250 highly regarded people and 51 marketed rigs from High Arctic, branded as the Concord Well Servicing Group. With the 48 Precision service rigs running this week, we are already hitting our Q1 peak and expect that with the Concord team, our combined activity level will be in the 80-85 range later this quarter. Our highest leading edge rates are pushing over CAD 1,000 per hour, and with several service rigs currently working 24-hour projects, we see a revenue profile that's very encouraging. Yet we believe we still have a ways to go with both pricing and utilization gains as this segment continues to recover.

I've been talking about the importance and value of consolidation in this business line for several years now, and it is very good to execute this deal and bring these fleets together. As mentioned in our press release, we expect short-term synergies valued in the CAD 5 million range, but I also believe that from a revenue and cash flow standpoint, the margin synergies will be much stronger over time. This acquisition will further demonstrate the operational leverage and scale value inherent to the Precision business model. The shortage of skilled labor is stressing all parts of our economy, and the oil service sector is not immune. Precision's recruiting and retention performance has been excellent in all regions. Yet we note the emerging safety challenges associated with a larger component of our field crews staffed with less experienced or green workers.

This safety challenge has been intensified by those customers who seem only focused on capital discipline, which then prioritizes speed and efficiency. The safety of our people and the integrity of our safety processes are far and away Precision's top operational priority, and I mention this as it's imperative that the service providers and the customers remain tightly aligned on safety as a key priority in the field. Now turning to our international segment, the most important development is the large multi-rig tender we mentioned in our press release. This is a project we've been discussing for several quarters, and we expect to hear more over the coming weeks as the submitted tenders are now under evaluation by our customer.

We remain confident that our idle rigs in Kuwait will be reactivated with long-term contracts later this year or early next year, and we continue to explore several other opportunities in the region for all of our idle rigs. Our business in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia remains stable, with our three operating rigs recently renewed for a further five-year period. Finally, regarding our debt reduction and capital return commitments, we remain firmly on track to deliver on both targets. We'll continue to carefully manage our cash flow and uses of cash to ensure we hit both our short-term and long-term debt reduction and capital return commitments. You can see this in our opportunistic contract-backed capital spending programs, the creative consideration payment terms for the well service acquisition, and our intense focus on pricing, cost, and margin.

I'll wrap up by thanking the people of Precision for their hard work and the excellent results they are delivering, and I again welcome the 250 employees joining Precision in our well service business. I'll now turn the call back to the operator for questions.

Operator

As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Aaron MacNeil with TD Securities. Your line is now open.

Aaron MacNeil
Director of Institutional Equity Research, TD Securities

Yeah, afternoon, all. Thanks for taking my questions. Kevin, can you speak to what the capital commitment and scope of upgrade might be for the range of contracts you signed this quarter, and maybe a particular focus on, you know, the handful of multi-year contracts that you signed? I guess, you know, to ask the question more specifically, are those longer term contracts a result of a higher upgrade cost? Where are you at in, sort of in terms of your marginal capital cost of reactivation?

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

I'll catch part of this and Carey will pick up part of it, Aaron. First of all, let me kind of cover what we're seeing in customer trends and contracting. I would say that the longer term contracts are linked to longer- term customer spending plans. They're not linked to trying to extend the payback terms on a capital investment. We're targeting IRRs on these investments that are, you know, as Carey said in the call, well above our cost of capital, but really looking at payback terms that return that capital probably in most cases in less than a year, despite contract terms might be 18 months or 2 years. The scope of the upgrades are typically in the CAD 1 million–CAD 3 million range.

If the rig needs a third pump, if it needs a fourth generator and a pad walking system, that would be the upper end of that range. You know, call that CAD 3 million and maybe in some cases CAD 4 million if you're adding on Alpha. Many of these, though, it might just be like a third pump, fourth generator, or just an Alpha upgrade. There's a range, and the range is really from CAD half a million to CAD 3 million or a little bit beyond CAD 3 million. Carey, do you want to discuss activation fees for a moment?

Carey Ford
CFO and Senior VP, Precision Drilling

Yes. I'll just add that some of those upgrades also include EverGreen products such as battery packs. You know, we've got that range of kind of CAD half a million to CAD 3 or CAD 4 million. That's all going to be on the capital side. In the U.S. market, where we continue to incur some costs on reactivating rigs, they've gotten a bit more expensive from the, you know, a $150,000–$250,000 range that we quoted most of last year and into the first part of this year. Now the rig reactivations are really kind of more in that $250,000 to maybe $500,000 range. There's a bit more operating expense as we reactivate rigs in the U.S.

Aaron MacNeil
Director of Institutional Equity Research, TD Securities

Understood. Kevin, on the paid Alpha days, I was surprised to see they're only at 4% year-over-year. Was there anything unusual going on this quarter? Do you expect to see growth in percentage terms over the balance of the year or

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Yeah, I think my guidance on increasing utilization should help to point you towards some of that growth. You know, we're getting to the point now where I think we added five Alpha systems in the first quarter. You know, we're getting into the case where the base numbers are big enough that growth of 50% is going to be a little bit hard to expect going forward.

Aaron MacNeil
Director of Institutional Equity Research, TD Securities

Sure. Understood.

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Certainly, there's no resistance. You know, if you bake in a little bit of seasonality in Canada, there's a bit of an explanation for some of that reduction. Just a few moving pieces into the second quarter. I think Q2 Q3 results should be a little more indicative of the trajectory.

Aaron MacNeil
Director of Institutional Equity Research, TD Securities

Maybe I'll sneak one clarification question in as well. The CAD 5 million in operating costs related to the well control event, even with the CAD 1 million deductible, it just seems like a lot. What's actually in that number, you know, if the remediations accounted for separately? Again, it strikes me as a lot in the context of what a well might actually cost to drill.

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Aaron, we're drilling turnkey wells in along the Gulf Coast in the typically gas wells. These wells could be anywhere in total cost from, let's say, $1 million–$10 million. What you're seeing in this case is kind of the full cost of the well. At this point, we haven't begun to re-drill or reenter this well. We're still finishing up the remediation. I'd expect that we'll go back in and sidetrack and re-drill this well and finish it off and recover a significant portion of that, but we're not giving any guidance on that yet.

Aaron MacNeil
Director of Institutional Equity Research, TD Securities

Got it. Understood. Thanks for taking my questions. I'll turn it over.

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Thank you.

Operator

One moment, please, for our next question. Our next question comes from Waqar Syed with ATB Financial. Your line is open.

Waqar Syed
Head of Institutional Research, ATB Financial

Okay. Thank you for taking my question. Kevin, in terms of the well abandonment program, it looks like there's a lot of runway in Alberta. It requires a lot of additional work, but you also have the federal program that, you know, could end at some point. How do you see the, you know, well abandonment program over the long term kind of play out, and how does this acquisition kind of fit into that?

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Waqar, good questions. There's several kind of moving pieces right now around abandonments. I think probably one of the more important things we didn't mention on the call is that the Alberta Energy Regulator is increasing the requirements on the operators to invest in abandonments. There's an increasing push forcing operators to manage those abandonments, to approve the abandonments and manage the abandonments. We're seeing rising, I call it, core demand on abandonments over and above the funded program by the federal government administered by the province. You've got kind of three things playing together right now, really helping business. High, you know, higher commodity prices stimulating some of that catch-up maintenance work. You've got this regulator requirement that's going to increase the amount of maintenance work to abandoned wells.

You've got the tail end of the federal abandonment program that's got to be spent between now and next February. We see, you know, a lot of drivers kind of in the short term, but some longer term drivers around, you know, company obligations to abandon wells and then AER increasing requirements.

Waqar Syed
Head of Institutional Research, ATB Financial

Great.

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Certainly, you know, we think that the business, the well servicing business has a very strong outlook, with moderate to high commodity prices. Looking at the activity we have kind of booked for the fall and winter right now, I think our timing on this acquisition was key for us, and we're keen to get that rig count up into the 80s and maybe higher as we bring on more staff.

Waqar Syed
Head of Institutional Research, ATB Financial

Okay. Certainly, you know, you have critical mass in Canada in well servicing. How do you see your U.S. business? Is that a core business for you?

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Well, you know, for us, we have a kind of like a wedge or a sliver in North Dakota. It borders on Saskatchewan. You know, the assets are similar, the type of customers are similar. In fact, some of our Canadian customers work both sides of the border. So, while it is U.S. revenue, it's adjacent to what we're doing in Canada. I view it as an adjacency rather than some strategic push into the U.S.

Waqar Syed
Head of Institutional Research, ATB Financial

Yeah. Carey, you know, the leading edge margins look to be in the U.S. in CAD 13,500 to, you know, $15,000 dollar type kind of range. Is it still you think 6–9 months to get the fleet to those kind of margins?

Carey Ford
CFO and Senior VP, Precision Drilling

Yeah, I think, as Kevin said, we've got historical precedence. That usually is how long it takes to get the leading edge into kind of fleet averages. We've given specific guidance for Q3. I think we've given some soft guidance for Q4, and then, you know, look for continuing guidance a quarter or two forward. You know, certainly for the super triple fifteen hundreds, we're seeing the fleet reprice to that leading edge rate, and then the twelve hundreds are pricing a little bit lower. So I think, you know, certainly we've got some runway to get it meaningfully over CAD 10,000, but I'll stop short of giving guidance on what the ultimate fleet average margin is going to be next year.

Waqar Syed
Head of Institutional Research, ATB Financial

Sure. Just one final question. In terms of the rig involved in the well control incident, I understand that's a total write-off. What type of rig was involved?

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

It was one of our legacy 2000 horsepower rigs. It was upgraded. It had horizontal capabilities. We have another rig in the fleet that we'll be bringing in to re-drill that well and continue with our turnkey business.

Waqar Syed
Head of Institutional Research, ATB Financial

Great. Thank you very much.

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Yeah, thank you, Waqar Syed. Thanks, Waqar Syed. Operator, you can queue the next question for us, please.

Operator

Yes, our next call comes from Cole Pereira with Stifel. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Cole Pereira
Analyst, Stifel

Afternoon, everyone. Kevin, you talked on it a little bit, but thinking about leading edge Canadian day rates in the low CAD 30,000 a day range, you know, from your comments, is that enough you think to move a rig up from the DJ, or does it have to move a little bit higher? From some of your discussions to date, where do you think these leading edge rates in Canada could go in the winter?

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Well, Cole, those are really great questions. I've got at least 35 customers who would like to have the same answer. That said, that rig that we're talking about that could move up in the U.S. also has an opportunity cost tied to U.S. operations. We would need to see a differential in rates that would cover the move cost, at least. I'd say that probably rates below $30,000 don't do that. As you get into the $30,000s and if we have the opportunity to bring Alpha on and things like that, then we're getting into the right territory.

Cole Pereira
Analyst, Stifel

Okay. Got it. You talked a little bit about in Canada, but just the significant tailwinds for U.S. day rates. I mean, are you concerned at all that other drillers could start thinking about new builds, or does it just not make sense as you can do a large scale upgrade at a more economic rate?

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Well, certainly, I think there's a pool of rigs in the U.S. We have some of those ourselves. You know, looking at our fleet for just a moment, we have, beyond our current fleet of Super Triples in the U.S., we have another 12-15 high-spec DC SCR rigs that have AC top drives. The conversion cost to bring those rigs into kind of full super-spec, we think about in the range of CAD 12 million–CAD 14 million per rig. So that's substantially less than a new build. If day rates move up into the upper 30s for the rig itself, which the trajectory certainly appears that way, then we're probably looking at those upgrades sometime in calendar 2023 and stretching beyond that.

I think the industry has probably collectively somewhere between 75 and 100 rigs that look like that can do the same thing. I think that we're still quite a ways away from, you know, a full on shortage of rigs. I'd also comment that, you know, Precision Drilling being a public company and most of our large scale peers are all public companies, this, capital discipline theme remains, fundamental to everything we're doing, and we certainly see that behavior among our peers. I think there's a lot of reluctance to growing rig fleets and investing capital right now when capital is so scarce and we're being valued based on the returns we can generate, not on the growth profile. I just don't see new builds on the horizon.

I do see potential for these moderately costed upgrades. In a world where you can get CAD 36,000–CAD 38,000 a day for a rig, which if it's drilling wells in 10 days, that's really not a big incremental cost on the well. I think we have another 12–15 rigs we can bring into play next year.

Cole Pereira
Analyst, Stifel

Okay, got it. That's helpful. Thanks. That's all for me. I'll turn it back.

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Thank you. Operator, please queue up the next question for us.

Operator

Yes. As a reminder, please press star one one on your telephone to ask a question. Our next question comes from Keith MacKey from RBC.

Keith MacKey
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Hi, good afternoon, and thanks for taking my questions. Just wanted to start out on the rig contracts and the additions coming into the field the second half of this year. It looks like your current customer mix in the U.S. is predominantly private company-weighted, a little bit more gas-weighted than oil. Can you just comment on where and what types of customers these upcoming rigs might be working for?

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

I'd say probably a more blended mix of both publics, looking forward privates. The publics have been more reluctant to add rigs, and we've certainly seen, you know, year to date, industry-wide and Precision for sure, much more traction on the private side of the business. I can even tell you kind of looking forward at our bid book, which still remains quite strong. It's still primarily comprised of, you know, ones and twos, and we don't see any huge, you know, shifts into growth yet. We do see public E&Ps looking to start to focus on recovering and rebuilding or balancing their completions with their drilling.

I think we'll see a few rigs starting to creep back in through public drillers that are public E&Ps that need to start to rebuild their inventory of declining DUCs. I'd say that it's fairly oil-weighted looking forward and more public-weighted looking forward.

Keith MacKey
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Got it. Thanks for that. Thanks for that, Kevin. Maybe just turning to the capital, so CAD 149 now for 2022. Maybe if you could just comment on, you know, your average maintenance capital per rig, that'll give us a bit of a baseline to get into 2023. Is there any growth capital associated with these latest contracts that will also spill into 2023?

Carey Ford
CFO and Senior VP, Precision Drilling

Okay. Keith, this is Carey. We haven't given guidance for 2023 spend. We'll do that later this year. We'll give an indication of what that looks like. In terms of the maintenance, think about it as about CAD 1,600–CAD 1,800 per activity day is what our maintenance capital costs are trending.

Keith MacKey
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Got it. Perfect. Then, yeah, just on the latest contracts, is all of that capital spent this year, like the incremental budget for this year? Or is there some that'll spill into next year? We just have to kind of assume for ourselves how much that is based on,

Carey Ford
CFO and Senior VP, Precision Drilling

Yeah.

Keith MacKey
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

per rig upgrade and so forth.

Carey Ford
CFO and Senior VP, Precision Drilling

Yeah. The outlook that we gave for the CAD 149 million, the upgrade capital will all be spent this year for rigs that will be going to work at the end of this year. There may be some drill pipe and the maintenance that we've pre-purchased, that we'll take delivery of at the end of the year that's for 2023 activity. In terms of the upgrades, they're all rigs that are going to go to work before the end of the year.

Keith MacKey
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay, thanks. That's helpful. That's it for me. Back to the operator.

Carey Ford
CFO and Senior VP, Precision Drilling

Okay, thanks, Keith.

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Thanks, Keith.

Operator

Thank you. Again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone. Okay.

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Again, operator. Go ahead.

Operator

Okay. At this time, I am not showing any other questions in the queue.

Carey Ford
CFO and Senior VP, Precision Drilling

No. We see one more question.

Operator

One moment, please. Okay. Our next question comes from John Daniel. Sir, your line is open.

John Daniel
Founder, Daniel Energy Partners

Hey, great. Thanks for squeezing me in, guys. Sorry for being slow to queue up. Hey, Kevin, hopefully you'll be willing to take this one. Looking to your crystal ball, where do you think that your rig count in the U.S. could reasonably peak next year? A range is fine. I'm just trying to get a feel for if it's low 70s, high 70s, low 80s, just sort of what your gut tells you at this point.

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Yeah, as I was describing, kind of on the last question around these next round of upgrades, I think it's quite likely that the industry is upgrading DC SCR rigs to AC and making those rigs super-spec rigs. I think we'll be participating in that. I could see us easily upgrading anywhere from 5–15 of those rigs next year.

John Daniel
Founder, Daniel Energy Partners

Okay.

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

That would put your activity, I'd think, into the mid-80s. Now, John, that's assuming I would call that all development drilling.

John Daniel
Founder, Daniel Energy Partners

Right.

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

I think there's potential for some of our legacy rigs to be used for exploration drilling and delineation well drilling. We could see the rig count move a little higher. It's probably easier for me to get my arms around development drilling increasing. At some point, we know these operators have to do some exploration work or some delineation work. I think there's opportunities for our Super Triple rigs and upgrades in Super Triple rigs to get those leading edge day rates. I also think we'll see some rig opportunities for some of the vertical rigs to do delineation work or kind of low- spec horizontal drilling.

John Daniel
Founder, Daniel Energy Partners

Right. If they wanted, if you started to see the inquiries for that next call at 5-15, you know, we keep hearing about lead time issues throughout, you know, all of the companies we talk to. What would be the time required to get that first one out when you get the call next year?

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Yeah. I actually

John Daniel
Founder, Daniel Energy Partners

Is it two weeks?

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

I think the call probably comes late this year, but I would say that lead time on that type of upgrade is probably something like 3–4 months.

John Daniel
Founder, Daniel Energy Partners

Okay. Got it.

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

You know, we still have some inventories of products we can use and pull off some of the rigs that aren't running if we need to get those rigs faster. We've got some priority positions with some of our vendors. I think drill pipe would be critical path, but I feel pretty good about the AC systems and the generators and the pumps and top drives.

John Daniel
Founder, Daniel Energy Partners

Yeah.

Carey Ford
CFO and Senior VP, Precision Drilling

John.

John, this is Carey Ford. I would just add in that if that does happen, that seems like a lot of capital, for growth. Right.

The implied day rates in that type of environment would generate a significant amount of cash flow to where we would be able to fund those upgrades within cash flow, for the year and still have.

John Daniel
Founder, Daniel Energy Partners

Right

Carey Ford
CFO and Senior VP, Precision Drilling

enough cash flow to meet our debt reduction goals.

John Daniel
Founder, Daniel Energy Partners

No, it's a good problem. Okay, a bit of a softball. It's not intended to be a softball, but more of an educational question, one for me. On Alpha Automation, I mean, you guys have made great progress over the last several quarters, and I would assume with more and more systems, you've got much better data about the rig performance, those with it versus those without it. Can you just remind us, elaborate a little bit on sort of the differences you've seen to date and where it might go?

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

You know, a couple things. For sure, we can validate the time savings, the value of the base platform Alpha Automation. I'd say that different customers have valued apps differently. They just have different programs that certain apps work for them, some don't.

John Daniel
Founder, Daniel Energy Partners

Yeah.

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Like most apps, whether it's apps on your phone, some people prefer Google Maps, some prefer Apple Maps. I get that. We're seeing that kind of emerging on the app side. I would tell you that I think that if you look out three or four years, it's hard to imagine that every development drilling rig on a pad isn't using automation, period. Whether it's our system or somebody else's system, every single rig should be using automation.

John Daniel
Founder, Daniel Energy Partners

Right.

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Every single rig should be using some basket of apps that operator thinks are appropriate for their program.

John Daniel
Founder, Daniel Energy Partners

You can see, I presume, a demonstrable difference in performance between those without versus those with or no?

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Well, here's what I'll say. Certain operators with intense, you know, engineering and company man oversight can convince themselves that they can make the rig run as fast as that driller working really fast at his peak performance. It is really hard for a driller to be on 100% on 12 hours a day, 10 days in a row.

John Daniel
Founder, Daniel Energy Partners

Yeah.

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

You know, software eliminates all of that human uncertainty. What we have seen is that we can get that best well every single time with every driller. We don't have to have the best driller. We don't have to have the driller fully rested.

John Daniel
Founder, Daniel Energy Partners

Right. Okay.

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

We've got case studies that demonstrate that quite clearly.

John Daniel
Founder, Daniel Energy Partners

That, that's what I was asking. Okay, cool. That's all I needed. Guys, hey, thank you for including me.

Kevin Neveu
President and CEO, Precision Drilling

Great. Thanks a lot, John.

Operator

I would now like to turn the conference back to Lavonne for closing remarks.

Lavonne Zdunich
Director of Investor Relations, Precision Drilling

Thank you to everyone for joining and participating on our call. If you have any follow-up questions, please don't hesitate to reach out to Carey or myself. With that, we will sign off. Have a great day.

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