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Investor Day 2025

Mar 27, 2025

Operator

Today. Please welcome Senior Vice President, Head of Investor Relations and Enterprise Performance Management, Asim Imran.

Asim Imran
Head of Investor Relations, Royal Bank of Canada

Good morning. On behalf of all our Group Executives, it is my great pleasure to welcome you to the Royal Bank of Canada's 2025 Investor Day. We have a full agenda today, starting with Dave McKay, President and Chief Executive Officer, who will provide an overview of our vision and the enterprise strategy. We will then walk you through how we are increasingly expanding our reach beyond Canada and into global feed pools. The presenters for the first part of the Investor Day will include Derek Neldner, CEO and Group Head RBC Capital Markets; Neil McLaughlin, Group Head RBC Wealth Management; and Greg Carmichael, Executive Chair, RBC US and City National Bank. After the first 30-minute Q&A session, we will move on to the next part of the Investor Day, where we will expand on our strategy to extend our position as the undisputed leader in financial services in Canada.

The presenters for this session will include Erica Nielsen, Group Head RBC Personal Banking, and Sean Amato-Gauci, Group Head RBC Commercial Banking. Katherine Gibson, Chief Financial Officer, will then provide color on our financial roadmap over the medium term. We will then move on to our second Q&A session before ending with concluding remarks by Dave McKay. Also joining us today on stage for both the Q&A sessions will be Graeme Hepworth, Chief Risk Officer, and Bruce Ross, Group Head, Technology and Operations. Joining us in the room will be Jennifer Publicover, Group Head RBC Insurance, Kelly Bradley, Chief Human Resources Officer, and Maria Duvas, Chief Legal and Administrative Officer. As today's presentation contains forward-looking statements, I refer you to the disclaimer regarding forward-looking statements, which appears on the screen.

Our forward-looking statements involve assumptions and have inherent risks and uncertainties, including the evolving macro environment, which could cause actual results to differ materially from the expectations expressed. Our assumptions are believed to be reasonable at this time, but may continue to evolve and should not be considered guarantees. I would also remind listeners that the Bank assesses its performance on a reported and adjusted basis and considers both to be useful in assessing underlying business performance. We would also request you to please silence your phones for the duration of the event. With that, we will start the day with a short video, after which our President and CEO, Dave McKay, will kick off our 2025 Investor Day. Thank you.

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Operator

Please welcome President and Chief Executive Officer, Dave McKay.

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to RBC's 2025 Investor Day. We have a full room here in Toronto, and it is great to see so many familiar faces and actually some new ones, which is great. I see investors and analysts here who we have known for so long, and I know we have many more of you watching globally on our webcast. We truly appreciate that you are spending your valuable time with us today to hear more about where our company is headed next. Let me start by saying our management team is very excited to present the next chapter of RBC's growth story to you. After a historic and highly successful year at RBC, or for RBC, we believe that this is the right moment to share the significant growth opportunities that are in front of us in both Canada and globally.

Of course, at the heart of everything you hear today is a relentless long-term focus on our clients and the market-leading franchises that bring them value every day. As you know, we are a purpose-driven company that exists to help clients thrive and communities prosper. This is our North Star and defines who we are. It guides our strategy and the people that come to work every day for Team RBC. It's what drives us to continue building one of the world's most trusted and successful financial institutions. Today is all about clearly articulating the path we're taking to compete and win across our biggest client opportunities. Each business leader will lay out a medium-term strategic ambition with three-year profitability targets.

You'll hear about the current state of our businesses, the plans to deepen client relationships and deliver profitable growth through several strategic initiatives, and the key success factors and financial targets that you can hold us accountable to on our journey. Our last Investor Day was more than six years ago. We highlighted RBC's bold ambition to grow our client franchises, particularly in Canada, with the goal of adding 2.5 million net new clients. To do that, we laid out a plan to create more value for clients through partnerships, digital capabilities, and deeper data-backed insights. We shared a vision for how we'd better leverage our operating scale by improving our efficiency ratios in Canadian banking and in wealth management. I'm proud to say we exceeded all of our objectives.

That bold ambition also helped us drive our business momentum and outperformance that you saw in 2024, a truly remarkable year where RBC was at the top of its game. For the past year alone, we raised the bar and delivered in unprecedented ways. We integrated the once-in-a-generation acquisition of HSBC Canada and launched our new transaction banking platform, RBC Clear, while never losing focus on our existing client franchises. What better time than now to show you how we're challenging ourselves to raise the bar again? Today, we'll speak to how we're going to continue staying ahead of our clients' expectations, how we're driving premium shareholder value, and how we're delivering on an even bolder growth ambition. In short, we'll show you how we're accelerating our ambitions. You'll see this come to life across four strategic areas. One, increasing market share across our Canadian businesses.

Even as a clear leader, we believe we're very well positioned to acquire new clients, deepen relationships and wallets, and grow market share across all segments in Canada. Two, using our two global platforms to expand our reach into the world's largest revenue pools. Beyond Canada, we're actively pursuing an ambition to become a leading global financial services partner. We're looking to further grow our businesses in capital markets and wealth management in the world's largest fee pools. We have scaled these businesses, yet still have relatively small market share, so there's an opportunity to grow more. We are also looking to unlock bold transaction banking opportunity to support our globally connected clients. Three, executing a seamless U.S. operating model. We have very strong standalone franchises in the U.S. across capital markets, wealth management, as well as both private banking and commercial banking.

Our focus now is to maximize the value we bring to existing and new clients for a more seamless experience across our second home market. We'll do this through an increasingly integrated technology platform, driving efficiencies across our businesses and by continuing to strengthen our governance model. Four, further leveraging our data, scale, and AI investments. We have an ambition to deliver more value and personalized experience to clients that rival the best of the best and become more cost-efficient while doing so. Taking our strong digital and AI capabilities to the next level is such an important part of how we'll continue to build the Bank of the Future and unlock our next phase of growth. The bold ambition you may hear about today, you will hear about today, is made possible by our significant financial and strategic strength, and I will speak to both.

We have a diversified business model across segments and geographies. This gives us both earnings and risk diversification across cycles. In a volatile interest rate environment, it's important to note that fee-based revenue represents 50% of our total revenue. Earnings have been less volatile than peers because of our diversified model, and this is a reminder of the resilience of our franchise, particularly with such an uncertain operating environment we're navigating today. It's also important to note that we are building our data scale that powers everything from our risk models to our marketing engines and our critical digital data and AI capabilities. Our operating and technology scale, we spend over CAD 5 billion in technology annually. These investments are giving us an ability to continue to build the Bank of Tomorrow.

All of these strategic advantages throughout the day, and I hope that those in the room can spend some time with them during the breaks. I also want to underscore that our strong strategic foundation drives a more efficient and profitable organization and generates a premium risk-adjusted return on capital. It allows us to build deeper relationships with customers and lowers our risk profile. It also accelerates the growth of book value per share, which in turn leads to accretive capital deployment and drives leading total shareholder return versus our peers. Our medium-term objectives are the foundation for our business and client strategy. Everything we're showcasing ladders up to these objectives, and we are reconfirming them today. We continue to strive towards a premium ROE of 16% plus and EPS growth of 7% plus.

These, in turn, will drive strong capital generation, which will allow us to maintain a dividend payout ratio of 40-50% and a strong CET1 capital ratio. Later today, Katherine will take you through the path to 16-plus % ROE target by 2027, underpinned by a strong CET1 ratio of over 14%. We will also provide a path to an upside target of 17-plus % while still maintaining robust capital levels. Our client segments, the geographies we target, and our risk strategy are all aligned to deliver on these medium-term objectives through all economic cycles. That's our investor thesis, and we'll continue to build a bank that delivers on that promise. The point that I'll leave you with is this: we believe our track record of execution should give you confidence in our future success.

Next, I want to take a moment to speak to the rapidly changing environment for global financial institutions and the clients and communities we serve. RBC is in the business of managing risk, and through periods of change, we are relied upon as trusted advisors to millions of clients we serve. Today, there are several macro forces of change that we must adapt to. We are facing heightened regulatory scrutiny in all markets we operate in. Technology disruption is accelerating in its evolving client preferences, which includes a shift to hyper-personalization and an AI arms race that every business needs to keep up with. We're seeing changing demographics across our client base, including shifting immigration trends.

There are disruptive threats from private capital, big tech, and fintech, and all of this is playing out against the backdrop of global deglobalization and the complexities that can come from the increasing implementation of global tariffs. All banks are facing forces of change in a more complex environment, but we will show you how we are the best positioned to manage through and capitalize on the opportunities that change can bring. As you saw from our very strong results in Q1 2025, we continued to build on last year's momentum and solid fundamentals across our businesses. As I spoke to you about on our earnings call, we have started to see some softening in 2025 across some of our businesses. It is important to note that there are significant macro forces working against each other right now.

On one hand, you have lower interest rates in Canada to stimulate investments across asset classes. However, this is being offset to a degree by increasing uncertainty created by tariffs and the impact that's having on business and jobs. In particular, commercial client sentiment is weakened as companies in some sectors are deferring investments until they have greater certainty on tariff impacts to their businesses. Capital markets client dialogue remains robust even as clients take a pause to assess potential M&A and equity capital markets activity. In contrast, the market volatility is resulting in increased volumes in parts of our global markets franchise, while investment-grade debt capital markets activity remains resilient. While lower markets could impact wealth and asset management fee-based assets, we are seeing positive inflows into retail mutual funds with solid transactional activity.

For the purpose of the targets provided today, our base case forecasts exclude assumptions of the short and long-term impact of tariffs. We have run several scenarios with respect to the depth, breadth, and duration of potential tariffs, and later, Katherine will provide an illustrative example of the impact of ROE from deteriorating profitability, including both lower revenue and weakening credit quality. While we may very well see near-term headwinds that drive lower-than-expected performance, our balance sheet strength and leading franchises position us well for a broad range of outcomes. Furthermore, our strong internal capital generation is a strong buffer against credit deterioration, and we remain confident that we will continue to deepen our holistic relationships while adding new clients. What is not uncertain, though, is our belief in Canada and its potential in the medium and long term.

Our home country has an unprecedented opportunity to build a better and more prosperous future and to get some big things done that we just could not do before. The world wants what Canada can provide in great abundance. Canada can feed and fuel the growing world, be a leader in sectors like energy, agriculture, critical minerals, advanced manufacturing, and technology. To do this, Canada must build a more resilient economy that leverages its strengths. That means eliminating barriers to growth and productivity, getting energy and infrastructure projects approved faster, supporting homegrown talent and the incredible educational institutions in this country, and unlocking more capital to scale our best engines of economic growth. I believe this is the moment to unite the country behind a long-term economic agenda that boosts competition and drives prosperity for all. In a rapidly changing world, let's take advantage of this moment in time.

Speaking of adapting and transforming in times of change, this is something that RBC has demonstrated it can do exceptionally well time and time again. Our bank and management team has a proven ability to anticipate, adapt, and take advantage of the challenges and opportunities in front of us. We have the scale and expertise to deal with multiple challenges facing the industry and our business. As I've said before, the winning banks of the future will be the ones that not only manage the complexity of a rapidly changing world, but also find ways to deepen client relationships, create more value, and capitalize on that change. You saw this in action as we executed the largest acquisition in our history. It's amazing to look back at the way we successfully delivered on a transformational HSBC Canada acquisition while still outperforming in the core bank.

That's a credit to what this bank and our incredible people can do. We are proud of our past accomplishments, but I know we're here today to talk about the years ahead. Before I pass it off to the team, I want to take a few minutes to reiterate the key themes that you will hear today. We'll cover how we're extending our leadership position in Canada while expanding in global fee pools. We will speak to our increasing investments in technology to create value for our leading data scale and AI, and we'll remind you about our continuing focus on disciplined and prudent growth while providing the whole of RBC to our clients. I'll just touch on these areas briefly. The first theme is Canada as a growth market where we can extend our lead.

We're number one in our home market across personal banking, commercial banking, wealth management, asset management, and capital markets. However, there is still significant room for us to grow and continue to take market share. Derek and Sean will speak to how they're extending their market-leading positions with domestic firms while increasingly providing support to the global ambitions of Canadian clients. Neil will speak to a sharp focus on delivering personalized, holistic wealth and banking offerings to high-net-worth and ultra-high-net-worth clients in wealth management. Erica will discuss how we're providing increasingly personalized experience across personal banking. You will also continue to hear about how our HSBC Canada acquisition has positioned us to drive even more growth and financial returns. As a combined organization, we are well-positioned as the bank of choice for commercial clients with international needs and retail clients who need global capabilities.

While still early, we are encouraged by the client activity and opportunities for revenue synergies across the enterprise. We are expecting approximately $300 million of revenue synergies by 2027, in addition to the $740 million of cost synergies we are near completing. The key initiatives driving our initial successes include cross-selling of RBC personal banking products and wealth products that clients acquired through the acquisition. We have also added increased trade and cross-border payments capabilities to all our businesses, particularly in commercial banking. Both Erica and Sean will speak to how we are maximizing synergies and differentiating how we provide more value to our retail and commercial banking clients. Theme two is about expanding in global fee pools. Beyond Canada, our ambition is greater than it has ever been.

We are both investing to grow in existing global fee pools and building entry into new fee pools such as transaction banking in the U.S., institutional distribution channels, and asset management in the U.K., wealth management. Derek will speak to the increasing investments in talent and technology across investment banking and capital markets. Neil will then discuss his ambition to replicate the strong success we have seen in our Canadian wealth management business across our global wealth franchises. Followed by Greg, who will speak to how we're growing our cross-business revenue through unified product capabilities while enhancing the operational and risk framework. We'll also take you through our transaction banking opportunity that will bring us north-south connectivity and access a total addressable global fee pool of $130 billion.

It's a business where we have led with an innovative digital-first approach that further enhances the client experiences for key services. Theme three is about leveraging technology. Looking ahead, we have a bold ambition to tap into our data, digital, and AI capabilities to drive client and shareholder value. With over $5 billion in technology spend, we believe data and operating scale will continue to be a competitive advantage for us. We look at our technology strategy across four pillars. The first is operational excellence. Our spend provides a highly reliable banking core that delivers a secure environment. We have an integrated global security platform connecting fraud, AML, cyber, and physical network to protect RBC. The second pillar is business agility and scale. The scale of our operations allows us to manage multiple complex projects simultaneously and shows the power of our tech investments.

An example of this is that we implemented our US cash management offering and a new US offering model, and we did both of these things while successfully executing on the largest and most complex acquisition in our history with HSBC Canada. Third is our digital and AI capabilities and our talent. As we prepare for a future where client interactions are increasingly digital, our competitive edge is the scale of our data assets and the talent we have built across our business. We started to invest in AI talent almost a decade ago with our Borealis Research Institute, and we have more than 100 PhD scientists and over 850 world-class AI developers and data engineers. Patented large transaction model trained on over 65 billion client financial transactions. These strengths are setting us apart from our peers.

For the second year in a row, we are proud that RBC ranked in the top three for AI maturity among 50 global financial institutions in the Evident AI Index. Looking ahead, we are increasing the number of AI-driven use cases. You will hear examples from our leaders here today. You will also be able to interact with these use cases after the event. Everything we share on this theme is connected to how we can achieve a bold ambition of $700 million-$1 billion in enterprise value generated from AI-driven benefits. Some of the bigger opportunities include personalized experiences that meet our clients and prospects in the right channel at the right action at the right time.

Our advisor assist technology is expected to make 80% of our staff as effective as a top 10% by automating and streamlining routine tasks and upskilling generalists into specialists and driving operational excellence to deliver improvements in safety and soundness through risk reduction, operational transformation, and productivity gains. Theme four is about building the bank for long-term success through strong governance and prudent risk management. Our diversification and through-the-cycle focus is at the heart of our prudent approach to managing risk and protecting clients. Our stated targets can be achieved within our risk appetite. They do not require us to take a different posture or risk approach. This theme underpins the presentations you will hear today as you see an organization with a strong risk management culture deeply embedded into its DNA.

Across every business and function, we have a large, dedicated workforce focused on building and managing the bank the right way. Graeme will be joining us on stage during the Q&A sessions to answer any of your questions. The fifth and final theme is our commitment to 1RBC. As trade relationships evolve, sectors adjust, and client needs change, how our client franchises connect together must adapt as well. Every leader will speak to how we're thinking about tapping into the full strength of RBC to deepen how we serve our clients. For example, capturing money in motion between core accounts, savings, and investments, or cross-selling banking services to wealth clients in the United States, or supporting lifecycle and business ownership from a personal and small business client right up to commercial or capital markets relationship.

Now it's time to hear from our management team who will unpack our client-focused growth strategy. Let me remind you of what you will hear about today: a $700 million-$1 billion target for enterprise value from AI by 2027, our $300 million target for revenue synergies related to the acquisition of HSBC Canada, new productivity and efficiency targets for each business, market share gains, and 7% plus EPS growth. I started with clients, and I will end my comments on clients. For RBC to continue to be one of the most trusted and successful finance institutions, we must stay ahead of where our clients are going. This is core to our culture and something that we strive for every day.

We are listening to the clients who put their trust in us in building products and services to meet their needs and creating meaningful value for them today and tomorrow. I truly believe there is no other large bank in the world that can deliver the differentiated client value and experiences that we do at scale. Now I'll enter the stage.

Derek Neldner
CEO and Group Head, RBC Capital Markets

Thanks, Dave. Good morning, everyone. This year, I'm going to be celebrating my 30-year anniversary with RBC, and I'm now just over five years in my role as CEO and Group Head of RBC Capital Markets. And so I'm very excited to have the opportunity today to share with you the RBC Capital Markets story and our vision to be the most trusted investment bank and a leading global partner to our clients.

We're incredibly proud of the client franchises we've built, our long track record of stable and sustained performance, and the strong results driven in recent years as a significant contributor to RBC's overall performance and as a key element of the bank's global growth strategy. We are even more excited about the opportunity ahead as we build off our strong core franchise and drive further upside through a number of strategic initiatives across all of our businesses, all of which give us confidence in our ability to drive accelerated growth and an attractive ROE while maintaining our prudent and disciplined approach to risk management. Today, we're a leading global capital markets firm delivering full-service global expertise and solutions to our clients.

We have a well-diversified business across our three global segments, supporting over 22,500 clients through an exceptional and highly dedicated team of 7,400 colleagues working across 58 offices and 16 countries. Our international footprint and broad capabilities provide us with the scale to be relevant with the largest and most sophisticated clients and positions us with a very strong foundation for the future. We serve a broad range of corporate and institutional clients and are focused on large fee pools across developed markets, starting with our home market of Canada, where we have a clear leading market position. We have a top-10 presence in the U.S. and very strong momentum in our second home market and our largest opportunity for growth. We're building scale in the U.K. and target markets across Europe, including large markets such as France, Germany, and Spain.

We're growing target areas in Asia-Pacific, including a presence in Japan and Singapore and a very strong franchise in Australia, all aligned with our global capabilities. Our clients are the center of everything we do, and we meet their needs through a broad range of full-service capabilities. We deliver these in a highly integrated and interconnected way across each of our global business segments, leveraging a flat organizational structure and strong culture of collaboration to deliver a seamless client experience and execution excellence in all that we do. I often get asked, "Why do clients and employees choose RBC?" What I hear from them directly is they truly see our approach and platform and culture as differentiated. This starts with our unwavering focus on always putting our clients first to build trusted long-term relationships.

They value the strength and stability of RBC as one of the largest financial institutions in the world and with one of the highest credit ratings. They increasingly require the full-service capabilities that we can provide, including not only balance sheet financing, but also advisory execution and solutions delivered holistically as 1RBC. Most importantly, they value our unique culture focused on accountability and commitment to excellence, collaboration, diversity of perspectives to drive innovation and ideas, and integrity in all that we do. Now, this differentiated value proposition comes through in our industry rankings and various industry recognitions, but the most powerful metric is the voice of our clients who consistently tell us that they value our partnership and they want to find even more ways to grow our relationships. We see this come to life in our successful track record of client-focused growth anchored in trust and integrity.

Our long-term focus and consistency of strategy has driven sustainable growth through a variety of market and business cycles. Over the past 25 years, we've grown revenue almost five times from CAD 2.6 billion to over CAD 12 billion last year to become a leading global capital markets firm. A key element of that growth has been the success of our global expansion, in particular the increased contribution from the United States, which today represents over 50% of our revenue. More recently, we've successfully accelerated our growth while also increasing returns. This has been driven through an evolution of our strategy, a reorganization of our structure, and investments in several growth initiatives. We're very proud of these results.

Our revenue and pre-provision pre-tax earnings are up 6%, and our NIAT is up 9% annually since 2019, while at the same time improving our efficiency ratio by 70 basis points and increasing our ROE by 230 basis points to 14.2% last year. The scale of our business is significantly differentiated from our Canadian peers, with pre-provision pre-tax earnings over two times larger than our next closest competitor. In addition to our financial performance, we have strengthened our client franchises, solidified our leadership position in Canada, and continued to grow in the US and internationally. Most importantly, we have achieved all those results without a change or increase in our risk appetite. To that point, we have maintained a very intentional and diversified business model that we believe provides stability during a variety of market conditions, as well as options for investment and capital allocation to drive future growth.

Our business today is evenly balanced between corporate investment banking and global markets. Over the last five years, we've increased our fee-based revenue from 29% to 33%, which has been a key factor in driving our improvement in ROE. We've increased our geographic diversification and our global scale, with our businesses outside of Canada now representing over 70% of our revenue. Our disciplined risk culture is central to our strategy and has been key to our long-term success. We maintain prudent management of credit and market risk, which is further mitigated by our diversified business model. This approach and our business mix has delivered consistent results with lower earnings volatility relative to our peers. We also remain proactive and vigilant in managing non-financial risks through comprehensive risk assessment processes and controls, all underpinned by our strong risk culture and mindset.

We are committed to ensuring that robust risk management continues to be the cornerstone of our strategy. While we're very pleased with our recent performance, more importantly, it provides me with the confidence in our ability to capitalize on the significant opportunity we see ahead as we look to accelerate our ambition. As Dave mentioned, the current environment is one of uncertainty and change. However, we see a number of longer-term trends that will drive increased client activity for our businesses. The macro volatility remains elevated. Deglobalization, infrastructure requirements, and energy transition all support meaningful capital investment. Private capital dry powder remains substantial, while at the same time, existing portfolio company monetizations are expected to increase. Generative AI is driving exciting opportunities not only for our clients, but in our own business.

Each of these trends provides us with the opportunity to engage with and further support our clients with advice, financing, and solutions as they look to navigate this changing environment. We have a bold ambition for growth anchored in our vision to be the most trusted investment bank as we continue to build our franchise as a leading global partner to our clients. We'll do this by emphasizing long-term holistic client relationships, leading with advice and solutions supported by our formidable balance sheet strength. We're executing across five strategic priorities, which I'll speak to shortly, with the net result of strengthening our diversified client franchises, driving market share gains, and delivering growth and a premium ROE. Importantly, I want to flag these are not new for today. These are embedded in our business.

They serve to engage and inspire our talent, and they anchor our team's prioritization and execution each and every day. Starting with our first strategic priority, I'm a firm believer that our strategy has to start with our clients. Today, we have leading client franchises with the opportunity to increase our share of wallet across each of these segments. Starting with corporate clients, we're driving growth through the addition of new clients and increased multi-product relationships by deepening our sector capabilities and driving even closer alignment across our businesses. In private capital, which is a significant area of growth and a key area of strength for us today, we're leveraging that to further grow in advisory, financing, and across our global markets product suite.

With asset and wealth managers, we perform very well today against this large fee pool, but we're broadening our sales coverage to expand these core relationships across additional asset classes. With hedge funds, where we're currently underweight, we're selectively growing our relationships aligned with our strategy and our capabilities. With global and regional banks, which represent a significant fee wallet, we're well positioned to capture greater share given RBC's global stature, scale, and strong credit ratings. While smaller fee pools, we're growing with insurance and pension clients, particularly in financing and risk solutions, and we're leveraging our strong public sector franchise in each of our core geographies to support continued government financing activities. Across each of these segments, we're executing a dual-pronged strategy of both adding new clients and deepening existing relationships.

Over the last five years, we've grown the number of new client relationships by 5% annually, enabled by growth in our front office relationship managers, anchoring new lending relationships, and growth of our research coverage universe. At the same time, we've also deepened relationships with our existing clients, driving 7% annual growth in average revenue amongst our top 500 clients, enabled by focused and prioritized coverage efforts and expanding our relationships across products. Our success in strengthening these top relationships has resulted in more products per client and a revenue multiplier of two and a half times that of our average client. Driving further expansion of products per client, in particular emphasizing fee-based revenue, not only supports our growth and ROE goals, but it fuels our ability to invest further, creating a powerful and reinforcing flywheel effect to build on our success. Moving to our second priority.

To further support deepening of our relationships, we see a number of opportunities to strengthen and expand our capabilities across each of our business segments, starting with global markets. Global markets includes our sales, trading, and financing businesses across equities and FICC, which we further segment between macro and spread. In recent years, we've refreshed our strategy, reorganized the business with a dedicated global sales team and dedicated digital team, and we've invested to expand our offering as we evolve our mix and drive a more client-centric approach. Last year, global markets generated $5.9 billion in revenue, up 4% annually since 2019 and well-diversified by product, client segment, and region. Our global market share last year was 2.1%, which has remained largely flat over the last five years, adjusting for certain legislative impacts, most notably changes to the dividend receipt deduction in Canada.

We've sustained our number one ranking in Canada. We're number eight in the Americas, and we're in the top 15 globally. We're very confident looking ahead in our ability to leverage our recent initiatives and investments to accelerate our growth. The overall global markets fee pool is very large at approximately $230 billion last year. Our 2.1% global share varies by product, with very strong franchises in both spread as well as macro and an opportunity to improve our market share across equities. We're strategically focused on areas representing sizable fee pools, attractive margins, and ROEs, and where we believe we have a strong right to compete. To do this, we're continuing to invest in talent and technology and driving growth through an integrated cross-asset sales model in combination with broadened client capabilities.

In our global sales teams, we have focused coverage strategies by client segment, including leaning in with private capital where we're strong already. We're aligning our financing and support of multi-product client relationships, and we're driving stronger coordination with corporate and investment banking, in particular with our corporate and sponsor clients. Our product teams have specific strategies aligned with the focus areas for market share growth. In macro, where we have a very strong business today, we're leveraging our sizable repo financing balance sheet and rates intermediation capabilities to drive further share gains. In foreign exchange, we're expanding in spot and our options currency offering and driving better connectivity across the full enterprise. We're broadening our commodities offering where we're currently strong in energy to expand in metals, carbon, and other commodity markets.

In spread, we're building off our top-ranked franchise to broaden our credit trading in such areas as technology, media, telecom, and healthcare. We're growing private credit activities as well as securitization, and we're continuing to invest to grow our electronic trading offerings. In equities, we're building on the strong share we have in cash equities and our highly ranked research franchise by advancing our equity financing offering and investing in sales coverage and equity derivatives, while driving a much more integrated approach overall across cash, derivatives, financing, and origination to serve our clients more holistically. With these and other initiatives, we're confident in driving an increase in our market share to 2.5% plus over the medium term, a 40 basis point increase from current, and representing a large incremental revenue opportunity based on the current fee pool of $230 billion that I mentioned.

Shifting to investment banking, where recently we've invested in talent to broaden our coverage, we've reorganized our business under a global structure to better align with our clients, and we're focused on growing our advisory capabilities. Last year, investment banking generated $2.7 billion in revenue, up 8% annually over the last five years. Our business is diversified across 10 sectors by client segment and by region, with the U.S. representing over 70% of our revenue last year. Our global market share of 2.3% is up 25 basis points, reflecting strong momentum with our strategy and initiatives. Importantly, our M&A advisory share is up 70 basis points since 2019, a key metric demonstrating the progress we've made in building trusted relationships to support our clients with their most strategic priorities. We rank number one in Canada, number nine in the Americas, and top 10 globally.

We also have a very strong US municipal finance business that last year ranked second in negotiated transaction origination. We're confident in our momentum and believe we're well positioned to capitalize on the anticipated increased global activity, particularly across the thematics that I discussed. Our 2.3% share across the global investment banking fee pool of approximately $85 billion reflects a very strong share in debt capital markets and syndicated finance, an improving share in M&A and ECM as we invest in capabilities and expand our corporate and private capital relationships. Across sectors, we're well positioned to capitalize on favorable trends in energy, mining, power, and utilities, and infrastructure more broadly across asset classes, while investing to capture the opportunity to grow our franchises in other key large sectors.

We're doing this by leveraging our new global structure, along with continued investments in senior talent to grow our relationship and coverage footprint. Amongst our global sector coverage teams, we're deepening capabilities across all sectors consistent with our diversified business model, but in particular in key sub-verticals within industrials, financial services, and we're investing in growth sectors of technology and healthcare. We're also leveraging our existing strengths in infrastructure and energy transition, as well as private capital, all areas that we believe will continue to drive strong growth. Across our products, we're building on our momentum in M&A through increased strategic dialogue and cross-border coverage to drive larger transactions and increased sell-side mandates, while capitalizing on our portfolio of private company LBO lending relationships. In ECM, we're strengthening our coverage alignment, leveraging our sponsor relationships to grow our IPO franchise, and growing our pre-IPO private placement capabilities.

In DCM and syndicated finance, we're building on these two areas of strength through increased lending relationships to drive flow financing activity, capitalizing on increased M&A share to drive further acquisition financing activity, and we're expanding our leading North American project finance business. Through these initiatives, we're confident in increasing our market share to 2.75% or higher over the medium term, a 45 basis point increase from current, and representing a substantial high ROE incremental revenue opportunity based on the $85 billion global fee pool, which we anticipate will continue to grow. Corporate banking, which comprises our lending businesses as well as transaction banking, historically reflecting Canadian correspondent banking and our Canadian dollar clearing business, but will also include US transaction banking as it scales going forward.

Corporate banking is a key area of competitive advantage for us, given our AA-rated credit rating, our relative funding cost advantage, and our reputation and brand for strength and stability. It is strategically a very important starting point as it anchors many of our relationships as we look to drive increased fee-based income. In recent years, we've progressed our strategy of moderate loan book growth, focused on strategic alignment with investment banking and global markets in support of firm-wide relationships. In addition, our corporate banking relationship managers partnered very successfully over the last year in the launch of our US transaction banking offering. In 2024, the business delivered $3.5 billion of revenue, as well as growth at 8% annually over the last five years. Our authorized loan portfolio is well-diversified to balance and manage our risk.

Expanding on that point, we have a strong focus on prudent risk management driven by a comprehensive risk appetite framework. 68% of our authorized loan portfolio is investment grade, a mix we're very comfortable with, particularly when you factor in the average commitment per client by risk rating, where we maintain smaller holds in lower-rated credits. This is further illustrated by our adjusted leverage exposure, which represents less than 10% of our overall loan book, with an average hold size under CAD 50 million per single name. Our strategy remains focused on moderate growth while optimizing and improving our returns. Over the last five years, we've grown our authorized loans by 6% annually, focused on originating new relationships and up-tiering in existing syndicates to support multi-product fee-based opportunities.

We've also proactively managed our portfolio to optimize risk-adjusted returns through what we refer to as our quadrant model, which looks at revenue and ROE per client single name. Through significant rigor, we've seen great success in this model, with a 27% reduction in lower quadrant RWA since 2020. As we look forward, we're continuing to target mid-single-digit authorized loan growth, underpinned by continued capital optimization and strong risk management. Given our strategic focus on deepening our US client franchise, we identify transaction banking as a highly attractive new area for us to partner with and deliver value to our clients. This is a large and growing market amongst corporate clients of over $100 billion in revenue globally, representing almost 30% of the overall corporate and investment banking fee wallet. Last year, the US market represented approximately $24 billion in revenue amongst corporate clients.

Based on our corporate and investment banking market share today, as well as our bold ambition to grow that further, this represents a very significant opportunity for us over time. In addition, this is a business that has very strong and attractive fundamentals. It is capital light and a high ROE. It further diversifies our revenue streams, and it provides organic, stable US dollar funding to enable our growth strategies across our other businesses. A few years ago, we saw an opportunity to address key client needs, leveraging RBC's strengths and relationships with over 1,800 lending clients globally, including close to 1,100 in the US. We designed RBC Clear in collaboration with over 30 of our clients to address existing industry pain points and establish a differentiated capability.

We are very excited to formally launch RBC Clear last April, providing simple and fast digital onboarding, an easy-to-use platform with embedded analytics, real-time traceability and transparency, and embedded process controls. We are very pleased to have received positive client feedback and a number of industry recognitions for our digital capabilities that we have built to date. Our phase one capabilities focused on digital onboarding and self-service, bringing in deposits as well as high-value payments. We are seeing really encouraging momentum since our launch, with over 100 clients onboarded and approximately $9 billion of client deposits. Simultaneously, we are building additional capabilities that will deliver over the next 24 months to provide full working capital and strategic treasury management solutions. This will allow us to address our clients' full suite of domestic and cross-border payment needs to capture not only net interest income from deposits, but also fee income from payments.

As we mentioned, the funding benefits from the operational deposits will further enable our asset growth strategies in corporate investment banking and global markets. This is a tremendous opportunity for us to capture share in a large and attractive market. We have set ambitious targets to onboard over 350 clients and attract over $50 billion of deposits over the medium term. To date, I have discussed how we are building and deepening client relationships and expanding our product capabilities to position for our next phase of growth. Another very important aspect is our third priority, which is connecting to deliver complete solutions as one RBC. As Dave noted, you will hear from each of my colleagues on how we are working together to deliver the full capabilities of RBC to provide our clients with differentiated advice and solutions.

I wanted to touch on just a few examples of how we're bringing that to life in capital markets, starting with transaction banking, where Sean and I are working together to connect the innovative platform and digital capabilities of RBC Clear with Commercial Banking and RBC Edge, which Sean will speak to later. Similarly, we're working with Greg and the City National Bank team to leverage RBC Clear to provide integrated solutions for clients across the US. Second is FX. FX is a component of banking and payments across virtually all of RBC's businesses. We're partnering with Sean and Erica across Commercial Banking and Personal Banking to further coordinate our capabilities and our investments to drive growth in enterprise-wide FX.

Third, we're collaborating with Neil and our colleagues in Wealth Management to look to capitalize on our combined origination and distribution strengths to provide greater choice, opportunities, and solution sets to our clients. Importantly, in addition to strengthening our offering by delivering the best of RBC to our clients, each of these initiatives provides attractive returns and efficient revenue growth by leveraging our existing capabilities and resources. Our client strategies are fundamentally enabled by our investments in talent and technology. With that in mind, I just wanted to touch on our fourth priority and how we're transforming our business to compete in a digital world, leveraging data and AI.

Over the last five years, we've strategically increased our technology investments and leveraged the power of our enterprise capabilities with 7-8% growth balanced across three key areas, ensuring safety and soundness of our infrastructure, improving our operational excellence, and investing in innovation in digital and data. As we've invested to ensure our strong core business infrastructure remains intact, which will always be our top priority, we've been able to increasingly allocate a greater portion of our capital spend to client-focused initiatives, including RBC Clear. Last year, over 40% of our annual tech capital was focused on key areas to add value to our business and clients, including improving client insights and onboarding, advancing trading automation, modernization of our product platforms, and adding new capabilities, again, all supporting our client and business growth strategies.

Looking forward, we're increasingly leveraging AI to add client value and unlock the productivity of our teams. We've been scaling and leveraging Aiden, our proprietary GenAI solution developed in partnership with Borealis across a variety of use cases, including electronic trading, customized GenAI solutions to enable our talent, automation of front-to-back operations, and data-driven research and insights. While some of these applications are still early days, others are more mature. I'll give you just a few examples that we're quite excited by. We're seeing positive momentum in electronic trading, where our Aiden Algo activity has grown 28% annually. We've seen a 52% year-over-year increase in client readership of RBC Elements, our data-driven research platform.

More recently, as we look to scale our AI implementation across various areas of the firm, we've seen a 60% improvement at the speed at which our research analysts can generate company earnings insights, illustrating both client value and productivity benefits of AI. As we look to scale Aiden further, we're very energized by the opportunities, both within our business, but also to leverage the exceptional capabilities across the enterprise, in particular with our colleagues in the commercial bank across our combined wholesale business. I invite all of you to please drop by our Aiden showcase later today to learn more. Our final priority, but an important one, is I want to touch on our disciplined approach to investments and resource allocation, which has been critical to our success in elevating our ROE, starting with talent. Our people are the foundation of our business.

We have a consistent and sustained investment in our talent, both by developing and promoting within, as well as by hiring externally. Over the last five years, we've grown our front-office senior leaders by 3% annually, while at the same time increasing their productivity, with revenue per senior leader increasing over 16%. Our exciting growth story and our unique culture continue to give me confidence in our ability to attract and retain top talent as we look to compete with the best in the world. Based on the success of our talent strategy, we'll look to accelerate our talent investments, targeting mid-single-digit growth in senior leaders over the medium term. Our annual technology capital investment has grown 3% per annum, excluding our RBC Clear build, while at the same time improving our annual revenue per dollar of tech capital investment by 15%.

We will continue to sustain our technology investments to ensure the safety and soundness of our operations, add new capabilities and value to our clients, and further enable productivity and efficiency amongst our teams, targeting mid-single-digit growth over the medium term. From a financial resource perspective, we have continued to strategically grow our balance sheet in support of client opportunities at a rate of 7% per annum, while also improving our revenue per dollar of RWA by 125 basis points over this period. We will continue to drive disciplined growth and allocation of our financial resources while also improving returns, targeting a 40 basis point increase in revenue per dollar of RWA over the medium term. I want to pause here because there is a common theme that you have heard across talent, technology, and financial resources. That is the combination of increased investments and improved productivity on those investments.

That will continue to be the North Star of our investment and capital allocation approach. This disciplined approach to investments is critical as we look to drive growth in pre-provision pretax earnings, as well as improving returns across all of our businesses, which will serve to offset expected increased costs of doing business, as well as higher capital attribution, enabling us to continue to deliver an attractive ROE of 14% plus. In closing, a few key messages I'd like to leave you with. We're very proud of our business, and we're very excited about the future. We have an established track record of delivering consistent, sustainable, and growing earnings with attractive returns. Our core business is well positioned, given our strong client franchises, growing scale across large markets, full suite of products and capabilities, and our ability to attract best-in-class talent through our differentiated culture.

We see very exciting opportunities ahead across all of our businesses. We have a defined strategy to capitalize on each of those by broadening and deepening our client relationships, expanding our capabilities, and delivering as one RBC, all supported by strategic investments and disciplined resource allocation. As a result, we're confident in driving high single-digit growth in pre-provision pretax earnings, an attractive ROE of 14% plus or higher, while continuing to build leading client franchises based on trusted long-term relationships. Thank you very much. It's now my pleasure to welcome my colleague, Neil McLaughlin, to the stage.

Neil McLaughlin
Group Head Wealth Management, Royal Bank of Canada

Thanks, Derek. Good morning, everybody. It's great to see so many familiar faces here this morning, as Dave mentioned. Like Derek, I joined the bank over 25 years ago, but I only took over wealth management last fall. That was after seven years of leading the personal and commercial bank.

Over the next 30 minutes, I'm going to take you through how we plan to leverage the core elements of the global wealth and asset management businesses to drive our growth over the medium term. What you're going to hear about is our sizable leadership in Canada, how we plan to extend that leadership in our home market, and how we plan to replicate our winning strategy in the US as well as Europe. Our success today and the years ahead is grounded in our relentless focus on our clients, ensuring that we continue to deepen those relationships, as you heard Dave talk about, that we adapt to meeting our clients' evolving needs, and that we're leveraging our technology to make sure we're improving the experiences we have with our clients every single day.

I'm going to start with a short overview of where we are to kick off our journey. RBC is a best-in-class global wealth and asset manager. We run large at-scale competitive businesses in three of the world's largest asset pools, being Canada, the US, and in Europe. We have $2 trillion in assets under administration and CAD 680 billion in assets under management. Now, we have a commanding lead in Canada. That's across the full spectrum of wealth and asset management, including Dominion Securities, PH&N Investment Counsel, Royal Trust, direct investing, and global asset management. Let me give you just a few data points to underscore the size of that lead. In RBC DS, where we benefit from the referrals of RBC's retail bank and the private bank, we are larger than the number two and number three players if you put them together.

In RBC Global Asset Management, or GAM, as we call it, we're a leader in Canada, and we are more than 50% larger than our next largest competitor. We generate scale from that tight partnership with the retail bank and wealth management. You can see evidence of that by the fact that 52% of GAM AUM is coming from those affiliated channels. Over the years, we've also built a meaningful and growing presence outside of Canada. We're the sixth largest full-service advisory firm in the U.S. Our acquisition of Brewin Dolphin means we've become the fifth largest wealth manager in the U.K. In GAM, we have teams across the U.K., in Europe, and we have a growing presence in the U.S.

Across these businesses, we continue to extend our lead by tapping into the structural advantages we have, those including our scale and the tight collaboration and referrals that we get from across RBC, but also through many, many years of consistent and disciplined execution. You can say it's a virtuous cycle. Our success and scale allow us to reinvest and power our growth. A good example is here in Canada with Dominion Securities and PH&N. We've consistently reinforced an entrepreneurial culture and invested in tools and technologies that attract more advisors. In turn, that grows our already substantial lead in our home market. It is those learnings that allow us to extend that same playbook to our US and U.K. advisory businesses. You can apply the same principle of the virtuous cycle to GAM.

We continue to leverage the substantial scale we have here in Canada, our leading investment performance, the culture of innovation, as well as that ability to collaborate across the organization. That drives continued growth here in our home market, but it also sets us up to scale to other markets. I am going to look at the results in Canada as well as globally. AUA and AUM grew about 12% since 2019, with GAM AUM growing at 8%. Now, revenue growth was impacted by a combination of factors, including the divestiture of our investor service business outside of Canada and more modest transactional and NII growth. Fee-based revenue, however, grew in line with client assets. Over time, we expect that revenue growth will follow asset growth quite closely. Our business model is what we would say is client-focused and advice-led. It shows resilience through different market conditions.

You can see evidence of that in the reliable and stable net new asset flows that we've delivered across Wealth Canada, Wealth US, and GAM. This demonstrates the distinct trust that our clients place in us throughout the cycle. As I'll show you later, GAM has outperformed peers through the ups and downs of the cycle as well. The stability in our net flows and our disciplined execution has led to strong pretax margins in Canadian wealth management and global asset management. This has also given us opportunities to increase our margins in the US and our European businesses, where we will look to replicate the success that we've had in Canada. In the US, our margins were weighed by headwinds related to the replatforming of CNB. If we exclude CNB, we've delivered strong margins in the high teens range.

In international wealth, our acquisition of Brewin Dolphin is helping drive improved margins. I'll speak to that a little bit later. Our wealth and asset management business will continue to be underpinned by the same strong asset growth and that client-centricity that's always been our foundation. Based on the strength of these individual businesses, we've delivered strong pretax margins and mid-teens ROEs supported by solid net income growth. The growth in our net income over the last five years was impacted by City National Bank, as well as the other factors I just touched on. As David highlighted in his opening, wealth management will be a very, very important part of driving the strength of RBC's overall ROE, given our strong margins and low capital intensity. Now, with all that said, we're at a pivotal point in our journey.

We look at these businesses, and we'd say we're ready to accelerate from here. Like Derek, when we think about our future, we always start with the client, something I think you will hear time and time again today. The reality is, in wealth management, clients' needs are changing. Our clients are living longer, they're retiring later, and they're looking for guidance on how that impacts their retirement and how they're going to transfer that wealth to the next generation. Another important shift that we see is that investors are increasingly moving to passive strategies, and private capital is becoming more and more of a focus. We believe that the winning firms will be those equipped to meet the evolving needs and the shifting market dynamics head-on. I can tell you, the team in wealth management is ready to do exactly that.

Now, with that context, let me walk you through the building blocks of our winning formula, focusing on five strategic priorities. I'll start with our growth plans for our North American advisory businesses. Now, top advisors are drawn to RBC thanks to our strong reputation and our unique value proposition. We offer the resources of a global firm, but we also offer the entrepreneurial culture and the flexibility of a boutique. I can tell you that's easy to say, but it's exceptionally hard to replicate. We offer an open architecture product shelf and a full suite of wealth management products and the support to meet client needs. We provide advisors with the technology tools to support their practice and help them grow. Underpinning all of that is the strength and stability of the RBC brand.

You heard Dave touch on this, that RBC has been recognized as Canada's number one most valuable brand since 2019. In the U.S., we're increasing our brand awareness with marquee sponsorships like the RBC Heritage that's coming up in a few weeks that I'm sure you'll all tune in to watch, as well as with the sponsorship of Major League Soccer, an exciting opportunity to connect with the next generation as that sport grows in popularity. Now, this approach has driven exceptional advisor satisfaction and retention rates over the long term. You can see it here. In Canada, we've been the highest-ranked bank-owned brokerage for 18 years. In the U.S., more and more top advisors who could frankly choose to go anywhere, they're choosing to come to RBC. Great example, I spoke with an advisor from New York a couple of weeks ago.

He will join us in April of this year, and he will bring his $7 billion portfolio of business with him. I can tell you, the reasons he made that choice were the exact ones I just walked you through. The success of our North American business, and particularly our Canadian business, is underpinned by our highly productive advisors. Over the last five years in Canada, we have had an 11% growth in fee-based assets per advisor. In the U.S., we would say a very similar story. It echoes our success in driving advisor productivity. An important part of that productivity is the success that we have had with high net worth and ultra-high net worth clients. This is a really important story. You may hear other banks talk about it, but I can tell you, we are winning with it.

We're moving up market, and we're winning with these clients by building up more solutions that are tailored to meet their unique needs. As of today, high net worth and ultra-high net worth clients represent more than 85% of our total assets. This is up significantly from less than 75% it was in 2016. Over the medium term, we're targeting that 90% of assets will come from the high net worth and the ultra-high net worth segment. In the US, we expect to drive a two-and-a-half times increase in ultra-high net worth households. One important lever to win with these clients is alternative investments. We're targeting to double the proportion of wealth management AUA being allocated to alts in the medium term. To support that growth, we'll equip our advisors in a couple of ways.

The first way is we're partnering with leading alternative asset managers, including RBC GAM, but obviously others, to offer a full suite of alt strategies. We're going to pair that with a strong focus on education and making sure that our clients and our advisors understand how to incorporate alts into their portfolios. Now, the question can be, how does the best get better? How do we take these powerful engines that we've built in our North American advisory businesses and fire them up to deliver even more momentum than what I just spoke about? The answer there is our ambitious growth plan. We have a combined 4,500 advisors in North America, and they're catering to the needs of clients, frankly, across the wealth continuum. In Canada, I like to say we've built a powerhouse franchise. We have double the advisors of the next largest bank.

This team consistently attracts top advisors and maintains our reputation as the unrivaled destination of choice. If we look back to 2014, we have captured a three-point market share gain in the investment advisor pool. A little over a year ago, we attracted a CAD 7 billion team from a Canadian boutique firm, thanks to the strength of the franchise. I can tell you firsthand from sitting down with this team that they really appreciate the full-service model of DS. When they really got to understand the business and the culture, they were entirely sure they made the right decision to join. In the U.S., we focus our recruiting on larger, highly skilled teams. Over the last four years, we have added $120 million annually in recruited revenues. More than 50% of recruited revenues are coming from advisors with more than $2 million in revenues.

They are largely working with high net worth clients. Another example in the last 24 months is that we've recruited a large number of these teams, including two just from the Atlanta area with $8 billion in assets combined. Over the next five years, we'll continue to build on that track record of advisor recruitment with plans to double down on our efforts in the U.S. and add 600 new advisors. Next, we're also expanding our holistic planning solutions across our North American team to deepen the points of connectivity that we have with clients, but also to attract new clients. This is a model you may see from other firms, and you can ask, what differentiates RBC? The first thing we would point to is we got a head start.

We've been executing on it since the early 2000s, and we've built our lead through that consistent and disciplined execution you heard me talk about. Today, we have 300 experts working with advisors and their clients to deliver on these complex planning needs, whether it's financial planning, tax and estate planning, business succession, philanthropy, and a lot more. New advisors who join our team, they tell us that the breadth and depth of these solutions, or the family office sort of offering that we would talk about, is a material step up from their prior firm. I'd say in a phrase, it has been a real draw as we think about that advisor recruiting. We will continue to invest in these services because they allow us to deepen our client relationships, and they're moving us to deliver on a much larger need for our clients.

We're going away. We're going way beyond investment management. We're playing a role as a trusted advisor for some of the clients' most complex needs. I can't overemphasize the importance of this because we know that clients with a financial plan are more satisfied with RBC, and they use more of RBC's solutions and services. In Canada, clients who have a financial plan, an estate plan, and a banking relationship, they drive 45% more asset growth, and they represent 75% higher revenues. In the U.S., the story is basically the same. We see double the fees and almost five times higher net new assets for clients with a financial plan. You can imagine, with all that said, we're quite proud of our track record of how we're supporting clients with their financial plans. The reality is we expect to drive an even stronger adoption over the medium term.

We have set bold targets in the years ahead. We target having 70% of Canadian clients with a financial plan in the medium term. We plan to grow to have 60% of US clients with a financial plan in the medium term. That is a 30-point increase if we look back to 2019. Part of our winning formula in Canada has been that our advisors have had every solution they need to compete for the full wallet of our investment clients. In the US, not quite the same story. I would say our advisors have done an impressive job of building the business even without that full suite of solutions. Therein lies the opportunity. As we expand and enhance our banking products, whether it is mortgages or credit cards, savings accounts, we will fill in the competitive gaps in the US and will strengthen relationships.

We'll go back and we'll support that advisor recruiting, and combined that will drive increased profitability. We're targeting to double the number of high net worth and ultra-high net worth households with a banking relationship in the US. We'll also take advantage of referrals across our US businesses. You heard Derek talk about this. We'll do it with his team, but we'll also do it with CNB, and we'll also do it with GAM US to make sure that we're supporting all of our clients' needs. Now, another area of opportunity moving forward is strengthening our leading advisor technology platforms. To do this, we're harnessing the power of RBC Borealis, which is our internal AI team, to continue to integrate big data and GenAI capabilities into our advisor desktop. We're improving client onboarding. We're enhancing ongoing engagement and planning.

We are automating the administrative tasks that allow us to free up advisors to spend much more meaningful time with their clients. A good example is our advisors in the U.S. are now prepping for client meetings in less than five minutes rather than the 45 minutes it used to take. These advisors are using simple, plain language queries, and the AI scans the client's emails, our CRM, as well as the advisor's notes to create meeting prep summaries. We see a number of benefits from this. For the most part, they are linked back to liberating the time of our advisors. The benefits include things like a higher level of client service, higher client satisfaction, obviously greater advisor productivity, and the opportunity to turn these insights into opportunities and support accelerated asset growth.

Now, the reality is it is early, but in the US, we've seen strong results, including a 65% advisor adoption rate. We're seeing a strong response to the leads to consolidate external assets. These are the results that are giving us the confidence that we're absolutely on the right path. This is, I think, a really great example of how wealth management is benefiting from RBC's scale, the data scale that Dave spoke about, the AI talent, and our proven track record of building leading advisor tools. If you have a few minutes, I'd encourage you to drop by and see our AI demo over the lunch break. Now, I'm going to move to Wealth Management Europe, where we're focused on improving profitability over the medium term by executing our playbook.

RBC Wealth Management Europe has a strong position as the fifth largest wealth manager by AUA in the U.K. market. The market is growing at about a 5% CAGR, and we view this as an attractive and a consolidating market. We believe we are well positioned to capitalize on our profitability ambitions there. We will be aided by a number of what I'd say is key demographic tailwinds. First, there is an increasing number of affluent to high net worth investors who are open to receiving advice. The reality is they are just not getting it. You can see that evidenced here by our GBP 2 trillion advice gap. Second, 40% of wealth sit within the mass affluent group. This is the segment we are positioned to win in. That brings us to Brewin Dolphin. We acquired Brewin in 2022.

This acquisition repositioned our European business from a smaller legacy business focused on private wealth, custody, and trust to a larger footprint business that also serves high net worth and mass affluent clients for discretionary investment management. Now, today, we are a full-service advisory firm, and we're offering the breadth and depth of solutions and an expanded advisor and distribution footprint, all supported by the leading technology you heard me talk about. Just as important, we've improved our revenue mix to be more fee-based. It's 75% today versus only 50% in 2019. We acquired Brewin because we needed scale in a fast-growing market segment. We look back, however, there were challenging macroeconomic conditions that have delayed the timing of our initial profitability ambitions. Having said that, we remain steadfast in achieving our profitability target over the medium term.

We spent the last two years integrating these two businesses and modernizing our tech stack. I can tell you, based on my experience on the integration of HSBC, getting this right is paramount. Across our U.K. business, we are now laser-focused on growth, and we have every expectation we will outpace the market looking forward. We are pleased with the momentum we are seeing. We have very strong engagement from our advisors. We have keen interest in the product roadmap we have laid out, and we are building strong client pipelines. Take all of that, we would say we have laid the foundation to drive a couple of things. The first one being a mid-20% adjusted pre-tax margin. The second is the $500 million in adjusted profits before taxes over the next five years. Now, looking ahead, we are using our playbook to grow profitability, and we are doing it by leveraging local expertise.

We'll continue to implement an advice-led model with financial planning at its core. We'll deepen client relationships by building a new scalable banking and lending platform. We'll continue to add more advisors. We'll invest in digital capabilities to enhance our client and advisor experience, again, leveraging the technology scale of RBC. Let me pivot back to Canada. Talk a little bit about direct investing that I like to think of as a mature digital investing platform, but one that is poised for its next phase of growth. We're the number two player among the big six in Canada, and we have 1.2 million clients across early-stage investors, mass affluent clients, all the way up to high-volume traders. We offer a wide range of products, including a multi-currency account and US and international trading. We are the only platform in Canada that can say that.

Importantly, we have a very low cost of acquisition. We have more than 90% of our clients who are originating from RBC Personal Banking. With the acquisition of HSBC, we added 70,000 clients to direct investing. A reminder, this is a highly profitable, growing, and completely scalable business. Now, we set our sights on delivering ambitious targets with direct investing. By 2029, we plan to double our market share of early-stage investors, which I think we can all agree is a hotly contested client segment right now. We'll acquire 400,000 new clients, and we will double the share of clients that are shared between DI and either DS or PH&N. How do we plan to do this?

We're going to win early-stage investors by refining our low-cost acquisition funnel, and we're going to be launching new products and features in the fall of this year, targeted at early-stage investors. For mass affluent clients, we're stepping up our technology investments, and we'll evolve the core of the business where active traders generate the majority of our earnings. For high-net worth clients, we'll streamline the graduation process to take them into a DS or a PH&N relationship, at the same time maintaining a digital investing platform because the reality is we're seeing a whole lot of clients who just want to use both. Next, I'm going to move on, and I'll take you through how we plan to extend our lead in global asset management. GAM has built a broad set of investment capabilities, serving retail and institutional clients globally.

I like to say we are the leading provider of investment solutions in Canada and by a wide margin. We are growing our assets and our distribution networks in the US, in Europe, as well as Asia. Our scale and investment management capabilities underpin the track record of delivering strong investment performance relative to our peers. It is this combination of investment performance, our advisor support, and the breadth of the product choice that results in a unique value proposition, not just for retail clients, but also for institutional clients. Our 17 investment teams deliver, with almost 90% of the assets they manage outperforming industry benchmarks over the last five years. GAM has sustained this level of performance with remarkable consistency. In Canada, we are the largest mutual fund manager, and again, by a wide margin.

We continue to gain market share through our strong partnership with the retail bank, as well as Dominion Securities and PH&N. Throughout volatile market cycles, we have maintained strong net sales momentum in the long-term mutual fund space. We continue to focus on extending that leadership, again, in partnership with our affiliated distribution channels. Upfront, you heard me reference ETFs and the forces of change. We have built a commanding lead in the Canadian ETF market through the RBC iShares Alliance with BlackRock. This partnership was established in 2019, and today, RBC iShares is Canada's largest and most comprehensive ETF offering. We continue to expand that lineup. In a growing ETF market, we are advisors, but also investors' first choice for ETFs. We have led the ETF industry in inflows, and we have doubled our capture rate of net flows over the last five years.

GAM is also a business with unique structural advantages. We leverage our top-tier investment talent and our reputation for investment excellence to deliver a strong track record of investment performance. This helps us attract new investors, including institutional clients. Our decades of experience servicing these complex needs of large institutional investors fuels our commitment to ongoing innovation. It is this innovation that allows us to bring new solutions to market. This innovation ultimately also benefits our retail investors, and that helps further attract the next generation of investment talent. Again, a virtuous cycle. As we think about growth, let's move to alts. I think we can all agree there is zero doubt about the significant demand for alts from investors. We are building our alts platform to meet that demand. We have over a 20-year track record of managing fixed income alternative strategies with our RBC BlueBay investment team.

This team manages approximately $17 billion in AUM in hedge funds, CLOs, and other investment strategies for global clients. Since 2019, we've successfully built a private markets investment team right here in Canada, and that team's launched three new internally managed private market solutions. We're stepping up our efforts on distribution and on education. We're growing our presence and our market share by strategically extending the capabilities of these existing teams. With that, we aim to grow alts by two and a half times by 2029. We're targeting to have 25% total net sales coming from alts by 2029. With the current AUM of $680 billion, we do see significant growth opportunities ahead. I'm going to start with our affiliated distributions channels.

Part of the structural advantage that I mentioned is the close relationship between GAM and our wealth management advisory businesses and RBC's very sizable Canadian banking franchise. Today, we have 16% of banking clients that are investing in GAM mutual funds, and we have 90% of Canadian wealth advisors that hold one or more GAM product. In the U.S., to be frank, we see a greater opportunity to drive growth. Today, we have more than 30% of our wealth advisors that hold one or more GAM product. The fact is we see a clear opportunity in both these geographies to further entrench our products, not only with our clients, but also with our advisors. Next, our external distribution channel. Third-party intermediaries and institutions now make up nearly half of our AUM. This will be a large growth driver, especially outside of Canada.

In Canada, GAM is the largest diversified active institutional manager. In EMEA and APAC, we have scale distribution teams across the U.K., Europe, and we have a very long history in Japan. In GAM US, we have a growing presence. In the coming years, we plan to extend the distribution primarily with financial institutions and intermediaries. Similar to the advisory businesses I covered earlier, we plan to draw on the proven playbook to further expand both retail and institutional distribution in global markets and help build out that scale. We will do it by hiring quality distribution teams, leveraging our data, leaning into the technology capabilities I've mentioned, investing in education, and building our presence and growing contribution from distribution outside of Canada. Now, before I wrap up, I want to touch on leveraging one RBC connectivity to make sure that we're providing holistic service to our clients.

You may have heard me say in the past that we are well positioned to facilitate money in motion regardless of any type of market conditions. If we look back from 2022 to 2024, we saw retail investors move to the sidelines. For the most part, they're moving into GICs. Today, we have seen rates ease significantly, and we have a large portion of these GICs that are now maturing. We are seeing mass affluent retail customers that are looking for returns and are looking to get back into the market. We are already seeing positive momentum in capturing that money in motion. With our distribution and our full product shelf, we are well positioned to continue capturing that share. Erica will speak more about this in her remarks. Just like previous cycles, we will make sure we put the client at the center.

When we do that, that ensures that when money is in motion, it stays with RBC. We have a long history of serving clients in Canada through strong collaboration across the organization. As we look ahead, I see a number of opportunities to expand these relationships. In direct investing, there is an opportunity to cross-sell into the consumer bank, but also into Wealth Management Canada. You heard me speak to each of those. We will also continue to leverage Capital Markets for the unique client solutions, including. We are committed to scaling our direct investing business and expanding distribution in GAM. Our targets reflect bold ambition, and we are setting the stage for our next leg of growth, where we will grow AUA to between CAD 3.2 trillion and CAD 3.4 trillion and GAM AUM to more than CAD 1.1 trillion, reflecting a mid-single-digit net new asset growth.

As a result of this increased scale and growth, we expect to drive a leading 29% pre-tax margin with CNB, or 30% if we exclude CNB. We are targeting a 20% ROE with CNB, or 33% ROE if we exclude CNB. We will do this by tapping into the connectivity across the organization to, again, make sure we are meeting the full spectrum of our clients' needs. I can tell you we are confident in the direction we are taking these businesses, and I am very confident that we have the teams to meet those targets. With that, please welcome Greg Carmichael to the stage to speak about the US strategy. Thank you.

Greg Carmichael
Executive Chair, City National Bank

Good morning, and thank you for being here today. I am Greg Carmichael. I am excited to talk about the opportunity before us in the US.

Before I do, let me briefly share a little bit about my background and how I came to RBC. I spent many years as Fifth Third Bank's President, Chairman, and CEO before retiring as Executive Chair in 2023. Over the course of my tenure, we elevated the super regional US bank from the bottom quartile to the top quartile across virtually every profitability metric. I'm also proud of the work we did to move Fifth Third Bank to OCC heightened standards during my tenure. Prior to becoming the CEO, I spent my career in technology and operation roles, starting with leadership positions at GE and Emerson Electric, before becoming Fifth Third CIO in 2003. Following my retirement from Fifth Third, as many of you might recall, March madness unfolded in 2023 in the US banking industry, resulting in several bank failures.

During that volatile time, I was called to service by the FDIC to become the CEO of Signature Bridge Bank to help manage the failed bank assets and operations. Following that stint, I was preparing for a leisure retirement when I received a call from Dave McKay. As a prior bank CEO, I had deep respect for Dave and RBC, so I took the call. Dave shared with me the challenges at City National Bank and asked for my help to formulate an approach to win on a larger scale in the US, a challenge I got really excited about. As I sit here today, the opportunity is much greater than I anticipated. Now, let's talk about that opportunity in the US. We're growing from a strong position.

Today, we operate a top 10 capital markets franchise, a top 25 commercial bank with the industry's leading entertainment franchise, and the sixth largest full-service wealth advisor. Over the past five years, our US business has grown significantly, roughly $442 billion in assets, a strong deposit franchise, and a growing loan portfolio. Our performance in the US has been strong, but we can do much more. The US is RBC's largest growth opportunity. We're starting with three very strong standalone franchises. You heard Derek and Neil speak to the tremendous growth opportunities in their businesses. The same exists at City National, which I'll touch on at the end of my presentation. Our focus going forward is to break down these barriers, operate as one RBC, delivering our products and services more quickly and more efficiently to our clients, regardless of which business channel they enter.

This is consistent with how other large banks in the U.S. operate and how RBC operates in Canada. Wealth and capital markets clients need banking products. Core middle market clients need strong cash management and capital market services. Our entertainment clients need access to stronger wealth advisory services. We have all the products and services, but what we need to do is offer them consistently and holistically to our clients. How are we going to achieve this? To accelerate this transformation, we're bolstering our U.S. operational infrastructure and streamlining our U.S. operating model. We're breaking down complexity and simplifying how we think about our businesses. We've assembled an experienced U.S. leadership team across both functions and businesses. We're integrating our platforms at the functional level with one single U.S. head having dedicated responsibility and accountability.

We're developing and building an IT infrastructure that allows us to operate as one RBC business. We plan to start the process of migrating to one brand in the US. When you think about our brand in the US, you should think RBC. Above all, we're enhancing our risk and controls framework across businesses and functional support areas. Our financial targets over the next three years reflect the confidence we have in our strategy. Our current plan is projected to get us to an ROE of 12%, up from 9% in 2024, and an efficiency ratio in the low 70%, down from 83% in 2024. This is primarily driven by revenue growth in capital markets, CNB , and wealth management, disciplined expense management, and responsible balance sheet growth.

If we're successful, and we plan to be, we expect the US to contribute over 20% to total bank earnings, demonstrating the strength of our second home market. In addition to our baseline aspirations, we believe there's material upside across our businesses that includes improved funding strategies and additional expense takeouts. If we execute the opportunities in front of us, we believe we can achieve over the next three years a 40% ROE through a variety of actions. Let me walk you through just a few of those actions. First, we'll grow revenue across our businesses through more unified product offerings. In our wealth business, City National offers a holistic advice-led private banking offering, whereas RBC Wealth Management offers differentiated wealth products through an advisor-led platform. There are meaningful ways we can bring our collective capabilities together to better serve our high-net-worth clients.

We plan to grow the upper end of our middle market businesses, classifying $500 million-$2 billion in revenues by playing to our strengths in capital markets and cash management. By doing so, we'll be better positioned to serve our clients and increase opportunities to be the primary lead bank, driving more fee and deposit opportunities. Mortgage is another example. We're standing up a mortgage business that will enable us to originate for sale. The originate-to-sell model will help us maintain a fungible balance sheet and grow fee revenue through sellable loans, removing volatility from our business and improving the bank's fee-to-total revenue ratio. We've been working on standing up this business over the last 18 months. We're preparing to launch it this year. Second, we'll continue to optimize our funding and capital structure in the U.S.

We can fund more of our large US loans by utilizing our low-cost deposits from our US wealth business. Third, as I mentioned earlier, with our new US operating model, we will drive efficiencies across all US operations, ensuring we are generating value from every dollar we spend to serve our clients. Savings opportunities include consolidating technology platforms, eliminating redundant support functions, and developing an enterprise location strategy. Finally, City National Bank is a critical part of our US ambitions and the leading entertainment bank in the US. It is a terrific franchise. It has a great client base. It is a high-touch service model. After being acquired by RBC in 2015, City National grew very fast. It tripled in assets over a short period of time. Underlying that rapid growth was an organization that was unnecessarily complex and not structured to handle that growth. We had to reset.

When I joined as Executive Chair of City National Bank in late 2023, we simplified the operating model, brought in a new management team, stabilized the balance sheet, all to build a relationship bank with strong performance through the cycle. We exited a variety of non-core businesses that were not creating value for the company. Today, the bank is focused on responsible growth, generating improved returns through the cycle, diversifying its client base, and investing in core businesses, all while prioritizing the enhancements of its risk and compliance framework. The bank is allocating capital to high-growth, high-return verticals that align with its expertise and clients' demands. The bank's sports vertical is capitalizing on the explosive growth in the economics of professional and collegiate sports. At City National, we have long-standing relationships in sports. The same is true at RBC globally. We will collectively leverage our capabilities to grow this attractive vertical.

Additionally, the bank's middle market commercial banking franchise remains a key driver for long-term profitability. We will continue to invest in talent and strategic markets to grow this business. In short, across our US franchises, we're well positioned to bring together one RBC platform that will provide RBC's full capabilities to its US customers, regardless of how they enter the bank. We're excited for the future of RBC in the US. I'd now like to welcome to the stage my group of executive colleagues for the Q&A portion of our presentation, and we look forward to taking your questions. Thank you.

Operator

As our group executives settle in for the Q&A session, I will quickly note how we're going to run these sessions. We're going to have microphone runners across the floor. Please raise your hand, and they will come to you.

We'd ask you to please state your name and your company name prior to asking your question or questions. Okay, we're going to start with number four over there.

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

Yeah, thanks, Lamar Prasad from Cormark Securities. One of the slides I went to immediately was this ROE waterfall, and I see that Katherine's up on stage there. Can you unpack that tax, PCL, and other? Because it looks like there's a significant negative drag that I'm trying to kind of square up in my head.

Katherine Gibson
CFO, RBC

Good morning. Thank you for the question. I'll have to steal a little bit from my comments. Bear with me if I repeat when I get back up here on stage. In that waterfall, we are showing the headwinds from PCL, tax, and other. The largest, I'll break them down.

PCL, and our assumption is that we are normalizing over the three years. There is a little bit of a headwind there, largely due to the expected growth of the book over that time horizon. The other headwind is tax. You will hear me in my comments, we are giving you guidance on an effective tax rate in the range over the three years of 21%-23%. That is largely due to the implementation of the global minimum tax. The other component of that is just where we are seeing growth is also going to shift our tax to create a little bit of a higher rate from that ea rnings mix.

Operator

Right in the front row, number one.

Ebrahim Poonawala
Head of North American Banks Research, Bank of America

Thank you. Good morning, Ebrahim Poonawala, Bank of America. I guess maybe a question for you, Dave.

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

As we think about the ROE target top of the house that you laid out, 16%-17%, what a surprising world it's underpinned by a 14% plus CET1. Just frame that for us, maybe, Dave or Katherine , in terms of how do we think the arc of sort of the capital targets evolves from here to get to that 16%-17%? Is that excess capital rainy day funds? Like the risk is, does it become trapped capital? How do we eventually get to that 12.5% that you've talked about in the recent past?

Yeah, maybe I'll start, and then Katherine can go. Now we underpinned the anchor of our medium-term objectives at 16% with that 14%. We have to start somewhere.

For us, it just demonstrates the strength of the franchise when we can generate our medium-term targets with a 14% plus capital ratio. It does not mean in any shape or form that we intend to run the bank at 14%, given that we've always talked about 12.5% being kind of our threshold where we see everything above that surplus capital. You'll see scenarios from Katherine . Unfortunately, Katherine hasn't had a chance to go through her presentation yet. You've all jumped ahead of her in the slide deck. We'll show you scenarios then as we walk that back closer to the 13% we are today. That's where you see your 17%. Beyond that, if you take it down to 12.5%.

It was the anchor to say we can meet our medium-term objectives with a 14% CET1 ratio, which is the power of the organization.

Ebrahim Poonawala
Head of North American Banks Research, Bank of America

If I can follow up, just what's the path of that 14% plus? It's a good position to be in, don't get me wrong, but it feels hard to go from 14% plus to 12.5% with organic growth alone.

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

Yeah, great question. I don't think our themes around where M&A helps us create scale in the markets where we see growth. We have a very high bar for M&A, as we talked about. It's got to be accretive to you as shareholders. It's very, very important to look at culture, accretion, ability to execute against that, similar to what we do with HSBC Canada and City National Bank and others. For us, then, where do we think about the key areas?

Neil talked about U.K. and European wealth management, highly fragmented business. Once we get that infrastructure kind of complete and that platform is there, it's easier to roll on some of the smaller players. Similar to what we see in the United States as we build out that wealth platform. The foundation to a strong global wealth platform and a strong in-country wealth management platform is having that holistic, not only advisory capability, but increasingly you need the banking capability, you need the core account capability, you need the mortgage capability, the credit card, other ancillary products wrapped together. As we build that out in the United States, how do you roll into that then as a platform that both takes out cost, which gives you the ability to pay a premium, but also leads to a growth?

To be successful in M&A, you have to take out cost and get your premium there and then go growth. It's very hard and challenging. We've done that before, but you'd prefer to take out cost and get a revenue kicker on top of that the same way we did with HSBC, right? We made the deal on cost. The benefit you see with the $300 million-plus upside in revenue makes it hugely accretive. US wealth, Canadian wealth. And then the third one I would say is, as Greg builds out this commercial banking, cash management, mid-corporate bank, how do you bring scale to that as well? That hasn't changed. The conditions haven't changed. To your point, we have significant capital accretion to give us the flexibility to return capital to shareholders, yet still pursue organic without and inorganic capability.

It's great to be in that position to do that at our target ROEs.

Operator

Paul, number one.

Paul Holden
Analyst, CIBC

Yeah, thanks. Paul Holden, CIBC. We'll continue on the ROE theme, but maybe a question for Derek. Fourteen percent ROE last year in cap markets. Target is still 14%, so below sort of the group average. I'm sure you looked at this very closely. Why isn't there opportunity to drive capital, more capital efficiencies in capital markets? Maybe there are. Maybe it's just delayed in opportunities. You invest in those scale opportunities you talked about, driving fee-based business. Where's the longer-term ROE target for this business?

Derek Neldner
CEO and Group Head, RBC Capital Markets

Sure. Thank you for the question.

If I break it down and you look at the history, as I talked about in our slides, we're very pleased at how we've been able to continue to drive the business in a way that both supports growth but also improves the ROE. We've taken the ROE from slightly below 12% five years ago up to 14.2% last year. As we look ahead over the next three years, we do have two key headwinds in the capital markets business. One is a change in our capital attribution rate. That doesn't impact the bank ROE overall, but it does impact the segment ROE. Given the size of the capital that we deploy in the capital markets business, that does have a meaningful impact on us. That's approximately 100 basis points, roughly.

In addition, given the global mix of our business, some of the items Katherine referred to in terms of global minimum tax and where we anticipate a shift in business mix, a number of those tax headwinds are also in our business. If you look at Capital Markets, we do have some headwinds in the near term. We have a strategic plan that we're very confident we can build through those, doing exactly what we've done the last five years in terms of emphasizing fee-based income, as well as with the scaling over time of RBC Clear that give us conviction in continuing to deliver above 14%.

As we look beyond the next three-year horizon, you can be assured we're going to continue to focus on delivering that premium ROE, but I think we're just trying to be realistic and straightforward that there are some headwinds that we see impacting the business over the short term. I think the last time we checked, generating a 14% ROE in a global capital markets business was a pretty good benchmark globally. Not every bank discloses. There are hard leads by segment the way we do, but would be pretty strong versus peers.

Paul Holden
Analyst, CIBC

Second question also for Derek. You laid out sort of market share objectives. If I think about maybe the increased importance of scale, I think, in this business, right, more dependent on technology, et cetera, where should I think about the market share gains coming from?

Is that going to really come at the cost of sort of smaller players, or can you actually grab market share from existing bulge bracket?

Derek Neldner
CEO and Group Head, RBC Capital Markets

Great question. Thank you. I think at the end of the day, it's a bit of a combination of both. Certainly, to your point, I would agree we see scale as an increasing advantage. You see that through technology investments that are needed, hiring investments, but also the global scale and how do you connect your business for clients through a very broad and comprehensive product suite. We're fortunate. We feel we've got significant scale as a top 10 player now that we can compete, but equally a strong growth opportunity ahead to continue to gain share. Where do we get that from? Certainly, we think there's an opportunity that share will continue to consolidate from some of the smaller players.

Equally, there are larger players than us where we feel we have just a strong competitive advantage over time, again, given the scale of the bank, our brand, the investments we've made where we can continue to capture share there. It is interesting, in addition to scale, there is also a theme we hear from clients, though, that on one hand, scale is critical, and they are shortening the tail of a long set of relationship banks. In some cases, they also feel overconcentrated with, let's say, their top five, and they are looking to disperse more amongst the next five to ten. We are very fortunate that we are in that position. We think we can get both the benefit of scale that we bring relative to some, but also capture that client trend of wanting to make sure they have got breadth of partners they can rely on.

Paul Holden
Analyst, CIBC

Sohrab, number four.

Sohrab Movahedi
Managing Director and Financials Research, BMO Capital Markets

Thank you. Sohrab Movahedi, BMO Capital Markets. Derek, just staying with you quickly, that 14% ROE, which Dave proudly highlights for you. Can you talk a little bit about what sort of volatility we should expect as you think about the next three years on that ROE?

Derek Neldner
CEO and Group Head, RBC Capital Markets

Another great question. Thank you. If you come back, we did highlight very purposely in the discussion that we take a lot of pride in the lower earnings volatility we've been able to deliver quite consistently over a number of years. Our business mix, our approach to the business, we do try to keep the volatility to a lower amount and certainly lower than our peers. At the end of the day, we are in a cyclical business in capital markets, so we'll see that sort of trend up and down.

As you tie that into ROE, some of the headwinds that we spoke to did impact us this year. I mean, the capital attribution change was effective this year. Notwithstanding that, we delivered over a 14% ROE in the first quarter. Certainly, there'll be volatility along the way, but some of those headwinds hit us this year. As we earn through that, you'll see it continue to trend higher.

Sohrab Movahedi
Managing Director and Financials Research, BMO Capital Markets

Okay. Maybe for Neil and Greg, also Derek has a top 500 client.

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

Is right with Derek's team so that we have somebody embedded in that team who has the relationships with the New York team and can execute transactions on behalf of our US wealth management team. We've talked a lot about the executives from these, whether it's the sponsors or the clients, as being a potential target for US wealth management.

I would not have an exact number for you, Sohrab, but I would say that we see flow coming from there now, and the relationships are there. We do look at this as an opportunity where we could and should be doing a lot more. I think on the City National side, on core middle market banking, there is a tremendous opportunity. We do have relationships that go back and forth. We do bring in Derek's team in Capital Markets when we have the right opportunities and so forth. It just is not a fluid, a very fluid process. There is significant upside. The investments they are making in Clear and those capabilities are going to tremendously benefit a lot of our upper core middle market clients. I think it is a great area for us to continue to focus on and evolve in that partnership.

There are clients that go back and forth that we share, but there are great opportunities going forward, I think.

Sohrab Movahedi
Managing Director and Financials Research, BMO Capital Markets

If I can just speak one more quickly. We have Graeme as well. Is there anybody else out there?

Derek Neldner
CEO and Group Head, RBC Capital Markets

No, no. We will have Sohrab . We will have one more after that, yeah. Usually one. I gave you two. No. Okay. We will come back to you.

Sohrab Movahedi
Managing Director and Financials Research, BMO Capital Markets

Okay.

Derek Neldner
CEO and Group Head, RBC Capital Markets

Rob in the second row.

Understand, I think RBC is generally undersized in US prime brokerage. Is that selective that you have not highlighted? Do these businesses work hand in hand? Equity finance and equity derivatives are both areas where we are below our average share today. We do think we have a strong right to compete, and so they are areas of focus for growth. When we look at equity finance in particular, we see earlier stage opportunities before going to full stage prime.

As you correctly highlighted, we have prime capabilities in Canada today. We do not have prime as a full package outside of Canada, but there are elements of it we do provide. In particular, if you look at the financing piece of it, there are near-term areas where we feel we can provide, we can improve our equity finance offering that adds a lot of value to our clients, will strengthen those relationships, and then enable us to do more with them across other products. There are things we need to build out internally to do that, which we are well in. We provide a significant amount of them today. There is a gap in more we can provide, particularly on the financing side. As we do that, we will then evaluate, are there additional steps that we want to go into?

Some of it can also be very operationally intensive, which may not be as attractive.

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

Are we going back to Sohrab?

Derek Neldner
CEO and Group Head, RBC Capital Markets

Yep.

Operator

Sohrab , and then Ebrahim after that.

Sohrab Movahedi
Managing Director and Financials Research, BMO Capital Markets

To apply that forward, is it safe to use historical loss rates, or do you think we should be exercising some?

Greg Carmichael
Executive Chair, City National Bank

Through time. I think Dave highlighted in his remarks earlier, I think everything you've heard from my colleagues up here in terms of their ambitions to achieve their goals, this is not risk-led, right? We really believe we can do this within our risk appetite, maintaining the same kind of risk management discipline and posture that we've deployed for many, many years at this institution. I think that's the right kind of framing to start with on that.

We can kind of bring in the uncertainty of the current macro environment and the tariff situation that we're facing, what that means in the near term. Quite frankly, there's just a lot of uncertainty. I think what's most critical in that, we have certainly looked at a wide range of scenarios and kind of what that uncertainty could mean from more targeted situations, tariff situations that will probably have very limited impact on kind of our PCL profile through kind of those worst-case tariff scenarios that could have much more kind of recessionary-like consequences to the organization. All of those, I would say, are well within the range of scenarios we constantly look at in this organization. They're within the range of scenarios we embed in our current provisioning.

They're within the range of scenarios we consider when we look at broader financial resilience for this organization. We are in a very great position of strength going into this uncertainty. We have incredibly strong capital ratios. We have been building reserves for nearly three years. I think that just puts us in a really good position of strength and confidence that we can continue to support clients, go after these goals and objectives that we have laid out, and feel very confident about how we can deliver on those.

Operator

Back to Ebrahim in the first row, and then we will go to the first row on the left after that.

Ebrahim Poonawala
Head of North American Banks Research, Bank of America

I had three questions, but I am not going to ask them. You are yelling at me. I guess one question, first maybe for Greg. City National was a certain type of bank.

You worked at Fifth Third for multiple decades. You've come in, I would say, rewired the bank a little bit over the last year or two. Just define what this franchise looks at. When we look at the U.S. banking landscape, there's a renewed sort of appreciation for high-quality deposit franchises and maybe retail banking branches. I'm not sure if that's where you want to go, but just talk to us about what this may look like over the next three to five years.

Greg Carmichael
Executive Chair, City National Bank

I mean, listen, it's a great franchise, as I said before. It mainly focused on the entertainment sector. It's got a small retail franchise. Retail is not going to be our focus in the U.S. It's really going to be in the ultra-high net worth, high net worth clients and core middle market.

You heard Dave talk about the strength in cash management and deposits in that space. When you think about City National, the investments we're going to make is really to expand that core middle market relationship banking, bringing in the talent and knows how to do that, partnering with Capital Markets for cash management, cash corporate banking capabilities, and so forth. It is really going into the right geographies with the right type of bankers, growing that franchise, expanding our important verticals. You heard me talk about sports a little bit. There are other verticals that are very important. Once again, leveraging the full strength and breadth of RBC, not just CMB. There are partnerships.

If we break down those silos, I think there's tremendous opportunity, but a much stronger, larger commercial bank going more upscale or upsized on the core middle market because of the products and services we have, stronger deposit gathering capabilities, better funding mix. That is the core of what we're going to be doing.

Ebrahim Poonawala
Head of North American Banks Research, Bank of America

Still branch light?

Greg Carmichael
Executive Chair, City National Bank

Very branch light.

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

Can I jump in on that? Because Greg's brought a philosophy that he's executed so well at Fifth Third that we didn't really have a number of the capabilities that made Greg successful at Fifth Third. He mentioned in his speech, this mortgage origination to sell capability. We didn't have that. We were originating mortgages and putting them on our balance sheet, right, and took obviously the interest rate risk that came with that. That limited how much we could take.

Greg's now built and implemented and will cross-sell into Neil's business and cross-sell into US high net worth and ultra-high net worth clients. This mortgage jumbo, mortgage capability, we've never had that. Generates a whole new vertical of fee-based income. Greg's leading us into the cash management partnership with Derek around RBC Clear and taking that into mid-corporate and into commercial capabilities we didn't have. Again, fees and deposits. Talking about where do the sticky deposits come from, our strategy is to stay with our core customer franchise and source those deposits through the commercial franchise and high net worth franchise. Very consistent, and he's brought it with a completely different approach. Deeper relationships, more products per relationship. We were a strong single-service bank that we bought, and we grew it as a single-service lending foot forward without the cross-sell.

Greg's looked at the entire client base and said, "Can't cross-sell. We'll cross-sell these ones, and we're going to originate customers that have multi-product relationships." He really has pivoted the focus along all those dimensions. That is why I'm so excited about what you brought to the organization and why Greg's so excited. This is a completely new territory and a big driver of the numbers that you're seeing around the accretion in our presentation.

Ebrahim Poonawala
Head of North American Banks Research, Bank of America

I guess maybe one for Neil. Just talk to us about the direct investing business. One, are there any learnings or risks from the likes of Robinhood in terms of what they're doing towards younger clients trying to sort of capture that journey as these clients graduate into more wealth? Is there a battleground right now?

Neil McLaughlin
Group Head Wealth Management, Royal Bank of Canada

You see a ton of media being bought out by the challengers, and they're leading into this fee as a sort of price as a weapon to get notice. They don't have that low cost of acquisition that we have to be able to provide a really solid platform into a client because we have a relationship and they have a need. They are paying up to acquire these clients. You also have to look, and right now we'd say we would have a one-size-fits-all value proposition in terms of the technology platform. Really, what we're looking at is to say there is a segment of clients that we've labeled the early-stage investor that is important to us, not just right now, but it's important to us for the long term.

Long term for the wealth franchise, but also long term to graduate into DS, but also for Erica and making sure that we're really containing that wallet of relationship of product for the relationship. We will have a differentiated value proposition to go head-to-head with those attackers to make sure that it's not. If you look at some of these value propositions, they're quite thin. I'd mentioned a couple of the capabilities we have. There's a lot more in terms of research and the more complex trading options. We will have different value propositions at different price points for different segments, and that'll be the core of what the pivot you'll see in Canada. In terms of what does it take, I think it takes technology investment to sort of move up and build the platform that I just spoke of.

It also takes, I think, something around really understanding there's different economics to different segments. The segment that we're really talking about here, which is the Robinhood or early-stage investor, the fees actually are not a really large part of the P&L of that segment because they just don't trade that much. You are seeing sort of the value of the lazy cash that's sitting there while they're thinking about what to invest in, or you're thinking about FX and those types of revenue drivers. We have really kind of peeled that back. We have built a very segment-focused strategy, and you'll see us execute that here in Canada. To your point on the U.S. for just taking a direct investing platform outside the country, we think there's a potential there. We think there's a lot of that technology that could be repurposed.

One of our focuses across each of those three regions is to take that technology scale. Right now, we're really focused, to be completely frank, on the advisor and the client for the advisor business, on the advisor desktop and in the client experience. I think in terms of, is it a medium-term opportunity to unpack, to take a direct investing platform into the U.S. or further expand? We have a very small capability in the U.K. and to invest there further. I think it's an opportunity, but it's not something that you'll see us really pull a lever on in the short term.

Operator

Great. We have three sets of questions. Number four first, then John, then Gabe.

Rachel Kapoor
Analyst, Chez Roulette

I 'm Rachel Kapoor from Chez Roulette. North-south connectivity. A lot of effort has been put into that over the last many years.

Many of your peers have done that. How should we think about it from a structural perspective going forward? I think a more important question for me would be, how should we think about Canada versus ex-US connectivity? Versus the peers, do you guys have an advantage given your capital markets business and connectivity there? Is that going to be more of a focus for you or rest of the peers? Any comments there would be helpful. I know the situation's fluid, but anything there would be helpful.

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

Before I hand it to Derek, Sean will get up next after the break and talk about that. Great question. To the context of the flexibility of taking RBC Clear and then Sean's built RBC Edge in Canada and connecting those two modernized platforms together is where the opportunity lies. Maybe you can cross through.

Derek Neldner
CEO and Group Head, RBC Capital Markets

I'll make a couple of comments, and Bruce has been very involved as well as we look at how do we take Edge and Clear and connect them. Bruce may want to chime in. I mean, if I step back beyond just the transaction banking business, capital markets were running a global business. Neil's bringing a global approach to wealth. In each of our geographies, we're better connecting the dots there. Obviously, you've heard Greg talk about how we're trying to bring that all together in the US. I think there's a strong muscle that's building there in many places, but building in some of these new opportunities where we're really trying to connect all products around the client. On transaction banking in particular, I think we're coming from a strong starting point where RBC Clear was a de novo build from scratch.

We're not encumbered by legacy technology or other challenges. Similar in Sean's business, which he'll speak to more, there was a lot of investment that went into RBC Edge on the back of the HSBC transaction. Both of these platforms are starting from a very strong position, which there's still challenges, and Bruce can speak to it, but our ability to connect it initially, first from just a client lens, client user interface perspective, is quite achievable. Our clients think globally. It's not just, as you point out, it's not just north-south. It is globally. It's with the U.K. We've got to continue to structure ourselves to address those needs, which I think we're well positioned to do. Bruce?

Bruce Ross
Group Head of Technology and Operations, RBC

Yeah. Just to add what Derek said, first of all, we look at global money movement.

Global commerce is a really huge opportunity for us. When we talk about the names of two platforms, one being Edge and one being Clear, I want to assure you that underneath the covers, there is a huge amount of shared integrated technology. What we're doing is we're building a global money movement platform, global cash management platform that'll not only be used north-south, but east-west. Based on the long-term strength we've had in the commercial portfolio that Sean's going to talk about in a bit, that benefits, so whether it's virtual accounts, liquidity management, global money movement, et cetera, we've been able to take that and then leverage that down into the US platform. We're really excited about the growth opportunities that we have here.

While it was a de novo build, as Derek said, there is certainly a great exchange of this capability and the platform build that we have. I think that platform build that we have been doing over years and the rest of the platform was one of the key ingredients that allowed us to do a close and convert on HSBC over a single weekend. That, as I said to Dave, now you will find out whether you got your money's worth.

Operator

John.

John Atkin
Analyst, Jefferies

John Atkin with Jefferies. Derek, we are going to carry on with you. The thesis heading into 2025 for capital markets was basically unbridled enthusiasm. Unfortunately, the world has changed.

Derek Neldner
CEO and Group Head, RBC Capital Markets

Sure. Thanks, John. Obviously, we are in a highly volatile and uncertain environment right now.

As you mentioned, coming into the year and certainly when we were sitting here in October, November, it did look like things were just going to be on fire in terms of transaction activity for 2025. We saw very good activity, obviously, in our first fiscal quarter, and that came through in the results. I think Dave characterized it well in his comments that right now it's really a bit of a pause.

With our clients, particularly on the corporate and private capital side, still lots of strategic dialogue, lots of transactions that are being worked on, but it is a pause where people are saying, "We just need to make sure we understand before we make significant strategic or capital decisions, where is the world going on some of these key economic topics?" As you've seen windows come back, I mean, even this week, with stronger markets, we've seen some good ECM activity, DCM activity. That pause can quickly come back into activity as people start regaining confidence in the outlook. The way our team's looking at it, a few different perspectives. One, tail risks have gone up. You ask about how far could it go before sort of the rug gets fully pulled out. That's very hard to define because it's changing so real time.

We're managing the business that tail risks are higher, and we need to make sure we're being thoughtful on how we're allocating capital, how we're taking risk, and where we're focusing our resources against that backdrop. It could just as easily sort of things clear up, and we start seeing a lot of activity in the back half of the year. We're trying to take long-term decisions and not get overly swayed by what's going on week to week. I think that's the same theme we're hearing from our clients. I think a lot of them are not trying to overreact. They're obviously thinking about. I touched on, we feel optimistic about where over the next few years activity goes for our business. Now, short term, again, it's been paused. That'll ebb and flow.

I think the core secular drivers will continue to support a good fee pool outlook for us.

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

I think that's why you're seeing markets react so strongly to any positive news because they sense the opportunity there is right in front of us, and we're delayed in seizing it, and therefore negative news causes you to pause. The positive news gets you encouraged again, and you move fast. To Derek's point, this thing could come back with confidence quickly because the opportunity set around investing in AI and AI capabilities, transforming your business, building out a growth platform, capitalizing on so many opportunities out there. People are poised to do that, and they're on pause. Any good news leads to the confidence to move forward. Do we have more?

Operator

I think that's all that we have. There are no further questions.

We will take a 25-minute coffee break. Thank you to the panelists, and we'll see you around in 20, 25 minutes. Thank you.

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Welcome back. Please welcome Group Head, RBC Personal Banking, Erica Nielsen.

Erica Nielsen
Group Head Personal Banking, Royal Bank of Canada

Good morning, everyone, and thanks again for joining us. I've been with RBC for just over a decade. During this time, I've led the consumer lending businesses in Canada, and I've also led the deposits, payments, savings, and investments businesses. Over the next 30 minutes, I'm going to speak to our personal banking strategy and how we plan to further extend our position in Canada as the undisputed leader and bank of choice for Canadians. I'll spend time to be proud of. We have experienced strong momentum across both sides of our balance sheet, and we continue to be the leading personal bank in Canada with number one market share across key product categories and a very close second in core deposits.

This is a gap our team is focused on closing. When you look across our clients' total deposits and investments, we are by far the leading money and franchise in Canada. This gives us a unique scale advantage beyond personal banking. We act as the front door to the rest of RBC and an engine for growth for Sean's commercial banking business and Neil's wealth management business. Together, we work to extend the products, services, and advice offerings to our clients in a way that is hard for others to replicate. Heading into 2025 and beyond, we are at the top of our game. Our proven market leadership position is driven by our playbook of providing unparalleled access and exceptional value. It starts with differentiated assets, and it is underpinned with our award-winning service culture and trusted brand.

This has allowed us to better meet the needs of our clients and be more efficient than our peers. Our scale advantage in distribution helps drive convenience for clients across multiple channels, and our experienced sales force is there to advise clients in their channels of choice. Our award-winning advice and product suite delivers superior client acquisition for us. This is all underpinned by our data scale. It helps fuel personalization and drives client insights, and it leads to increased sales and deeper relationships. Our industry-leading efficiency ratio reflects demonstrated scale and the significant cost synergies associated with the HSBC Canada acquisition. When you bring all these extraordinary assets and investments together, underpinned by the best talent in industry, it's a formula for why we've driven premium growth. It's how we're thinking about the personal bank going forward.

The client base that we serve today is very diverse. You can see that we serve Canadians across generations, socioeconomic backgrounds, and segments. While we serve all Canadians, a significant portion of our deposits and our revenues come from mass affluent and high-net-worth customers. We serve these clients through market-leading products and services, as well as through the expert advice in our award-winning private bank. The strong credit quality of our book is reflected in a superior average credit bureau score of just under 800. In our real estate secured lending business, this rises to 820. This reflects our strong and disciplined approach to credit through the cycle. We continue to earn significant industry acknowledgments. We have consistently been ranked the highest in customer satisfaction from the Ipsos Financial Service Excellence Awards. RBC has been ranked the most valuable brand in Canada for six consecutive years.

This is particularly important in the personal bank and is a key enabler. Advice is central to what we do in the personal bank. We have an exceptionally strong sales force of capable advisors that serve our clients across our distribution network. As Canadians change how they interact with us, we've been investing to stay ahead of their evolving needs and making sure our channels are equipped to meet those needs. With our leading multi-channel distribution network of advisors, branches, advice center, and digital, we're better able to serve our clients' needs. While we've optimized our branches, leveraging productivity improvements over the last five years, we continue to maintain our branch leadership in Canada. As simpler everyday transactions move to lower-cost digital channels, our clients are visiting us for more complex advice-based needs. We also have a market-leading franchise in attracting clients.

We have done an exceptional job of accelerating the pace at which we are bringing new clients to this franchise. It extends into savings and investments to ensure we win that all-important money in motion. In 2024, 70% of new clients to the bank held a core deposit account. This is a key tenet to an anchored deep relationship. It is through these relationships and the payment transactions that come with them that we are able to build robust data and client insights greater than our peers. In addition, as you can see, in 2024, clients with transaction accounts, investments, borrowing, and credit cards totaled 18% for RBC. This is a remarkable five percentage points higher than the peer average.

This is particularly important because as clients have more products, they're stickier, and as we capture a greater share of wallet, they become six times less likely to attrit. Putting this all together, our market-leading acquisition, cross-sell, and retention underpins strong volume growth. Since 2019, our deposits have grown at double-digit pace, and assets under administration have grown at 6%. Combined, we are the leading money-in franchise in Canada, and our strategy has enabled us to disproportionately capture a higher share of the money in motion that we've seen in the market over the last few years. In addition, we are the number one asset franchise in Canada and have seen high single-digit growth over the last five years. Our strategy is underpinned by strong momentum and profitability with an ROE of 25% in 2024.

Our scale advantage has driven leading efficiency of 42%, while our disciplined approach to risk management through the cycle has resulted in a well-contained 24 basis points of historical stage three PCL. That is where we are today. We are a bank with a strong foundation that is ready to extend our position in Canada. Now I am going to talk about our bold ambitions for the future and how we are going to get there. We see the environment around us changing rapidly. This creates opportunities for companies of our scale and opens up new areas of growth for us. Today, we are really going to focus on four pillars that underpin the growth of our business. These are the pillars that will allow us to deliver premium financial results. Let's start with the first pillar, channel optimization. Our branch network makes it possible for us to be lifelong partners to our clients.

It is also a critical channel for new client acquisition. We currently serve the market with just under 1,200 branches from coast to coast to coast. On average, 70% of Canadians live within 4 kilometers of an RBC branch. The strength of our network is evidenced by the growth in deposits per branch, 13% per year over the last five years. While Canadians are engaging with us more digitally, our branch channel remains critical. Here is why. 70% of new clients joined us last year through our branches, and 75% of sales are captured in this network. This indicates that our branches are still playing a very important part of how Canadians want to bank with RBC. That said, it is really critical that our branches and our footprint evolve and support the way we want to go to market.

We're always reviewing our network to ensure it's working for us and our clients. This means opening new branches, relocating, or closing branches. We're actively growing our network in high-density urban and suburban markets where there's large population growth, while maintaining strong community presence in our rural areas. These efforts have contributed to relatively flat occupancy costs over the last five years, while profitability per sq ft in our network increased 8%. With over 80% of our branch leases renewing in the next four years, we have room to further optimize our network, balancing our demand and need for client growth while ensuring we're cost-efficient. We see that our client needs are changing, and the expectations of us to support them digitally are evolving. As a result, you can see that we are building new experiences to automate low-complexity work.

These digital innovations are increasing the capacity of our sales force to focus on more complex interactions that require deeper advice. We are shifting the mix of our generalists and specialists to better serve our clients. These efforts have resulted in improved advisor productivity and higher sales volume. We endeavor to make that transition from branch to digital as seamless as possible for clients. We offer a wide range of digital experiences from everyday banking and investments to loyalty offerings, all designed to support clients. We are seeing early success in the shift to mobile. We have seen about a 20% annual increase in mobile sessions, with active mobile users growing at 12% per year over the last five years. At RBC, we now have more than 8 million active mobile clients.

This channel is increasingly important for us for client acquisition and an important starting point for that deep client relationship. When we think of this going forward, we know that mobile is a key interaction point for us, as well as a channel that is lower cost to acquire and has lower cost to serve. Across all of our channels, we're focused on optimization. This means streamlining our branch network, improving advisor productivity, and shifting simpler transactions to lower-cost channels, including digital. Combined, these actions will contribute to a significant improvement in our efficiency ratio going forward. The second pillar that I'd like to speak to this morning is about value and reciprocity for clients. This really has been a catalyst for growth for us and will continue to underpin our leadership going forward.

As clients move through various stages of their lives, we'll be there to support them with products and services that both meet their life and their financial goals. We're also focused on reciprocity. It's a core value of the personal bank. Essentially, as clients grow with us, they get more from us. This is a critical part of RBC Vantage, a key acquisition lever for us. With RBC Vantage, as clients grow their relationship, they receive rebates and more value. This includes free banking, Avion points, and savings from key partners like Petro-Canada. We know this has a material impact on our client base. Since the launch of RBC Vantage in 2021, we've seen about 75% of new clients enroll. These clients have more products with us within the first 30 days, and at the 12-month mark, are two and a half times less likely to attrit.

This signals the start of a strong relationship. It's how, in the personal bank, we think about creating primacy with clients. Going forward, we're going to continue to evolve Vantage to provide even more avenues for rewarding clients for their loyalty. We realize that, as the number one money-in franchise, we are uniquely positioned to reward clients as they grow assets with us. In addition, we see opportunities to enhance pre-arrival strategies for newcomers and ensure that our students and young adults have the value propositions they need from us. In our market-leading credit cards business, we have a well-diversified suite of cards that meet the needs of all Canadians. We view the credit cards business as foundational to both attracting new clients as well as building everyday engagement.

While cards represent a small portion of our loan book, it's a high ROE business underpinned by a strong credit profile. We hold the leadership position in Canada with CAD 24 billion in balances and CAD 180 billion in purchase volumes. In particular, the everyday rewards and premium travel categories drive about two-thirds of our accounts and balances and attract a more affluent client base. In recent years, we've launched the ION and ION Plus cards. This has allowed us to accelerate growth in the mass retail segment and improve our market share by 4 points since launch. One of our most distinct competitive advantages is our proprietary Avion Rewards program. This is Canada's largest bank-owned loyalty program and delivers exceptional value for our Avion members, our merchants, and RBC. As a proprietary program, the economics give us an advantage, allowing us to manage value and cost.

We also create value for members across our Avion ecosystem. As we grow our member base, we're attracting new leading partners, and this increases member interaction. This, in turn, fuels the data asset that we have as an organization, allowing us to leverage AI to better personalize offers for our clients. This drives further in client engagement and boosts our redemption volume. The strength of Avion Rewards is enhanced by our flagship partners. Today, we have more than 2,000 partners in a proprietary network. In fact, this morning, with very exciting news, we announced that Canadian Tire is now part of our ecosystem. They're joining our strong network of strategic merchant partners. This collaboration will link millions of RBC clients to Triangle Rewards, enabling us to increase everyday value, rewards, and savings that we can provide to our shared clients.

We will continue to build these partnerships with top brands in areas that matter most to Canadians, whether they're looking for everyday spend in categories like retail, grocery, fuel, technology, and pharmacy, or they're thinking about more aspirational categories like travel and experiences. We have exciting things to offer. Last year, we had our incredibly successful music partnership with Taylor Swift that added more than 500,000 new relationships to RBC. We also offer the broadest travel redemption options for our clients in Canada through Avion Rewards. This includes more than 500 airlines and more than 900,000 hotel properties worldwide. We know that this matters. Our clients spend more than CAD 19 billion in travel purchase volumes on their credit cards every year. We deliver meaningful earn and redeem opportunities for members, while we've also been accelerating new client acquisition, leveraging the strength of our partners.

Our partners see lift in their market share when they're part of our ecosystem, which acts as yet again a further catalyst to expand our partner base. Going forward, we're going to continue to drive leadership in our credit cards portfolio. We're leveraging AI to identify opportunities to grow new-to-credit card clients within our risk appetite. We're accelerating growth in key card categories such as premium travel, everyday rewards, and cashback. In Avion, we have bold ambitions. We want to continue to extend our program to all Canadians through our Avion Select membership tier, which brings the Avion value program to non-RBC customers. This, in turn, allows us to grow our banking business. We move up funnel with Avion Select and then bring these relationships into the bank. Our aspiration is to grow Avion by 40% to 14 million members over the next five years.

Moving to mortgages, this product continues to be a profitable and core anchor product for RBC and an important way that we strengthen relationships with our clients. About 80% of mortgage clients have a core deposit account with us, and the underlying credit quality of these clients is excellent. As a result, we see more than two times the profitability of clients when they're anchored with a mortgage. It has been a particularly challenging time in the mortgage business. Like our peers, a sharp rise in cost of funds and a heightened level of competition has contributed to a 50% reduction in our portfolio spreads since 2019. As funding costs and competition continue to be volatile, we will persist with a disciplined and balanced approach to volume growth and returns. As you can see, over the last five years, we have consistently grown this business.

We've seen some competitors move into the market and then out of the market, but RBC has been steadfast. We continue to see opportunities to profitably grow our mortgage business. Currently, over a million RBC customers hold their mortgages outside of RBC. Over the next three years, there are a large number of mortgages maturing in Canada. This creates a substantial switch opportunity for our business. The business is well positioned to capture these opportunities. Our proprietary mortgage specialist sales force is focused on driving growth for us. This is a team of highly qualified, deep mortgage experts with connections throughout the industry. Coupled with the power of RBC insights, leads, and offers, we're well positioned to grow and compete for every mortgage in Canada. For renewals, we've been invested heavily over the last year so we can continue to drive very strong retention.

87% of our mortgage volume is renewing by 2027, and renewals are more profitable for us than new originations. It remains critical that we manage this well. We've built a new remote team of retention specialists who deliver exceptional results and augment our branch sales force. We've launched a new mobile renewal tool so customers can renew their mortgage from the comfort of the couch in the palm of their hand. We have extended this tool to our branch advisors, reducing the time required for them to complete the renewal. Finally, we're investing in the mortgage business to grow and digitize. As an example, we're automating our onboarding processes to improve efficiency and conversion rates, driving an expected 50% reduction in the time from lead to funding by 2029.

As you can see, we're continuing to evolve our digital assets to ensure that we have assets across the homeownership journey. We've invested in Houseful, a homeownership platform that can allow us to engage with Canadians early in their journey. In summary, we believe the mortgage business is well positioned to drive disciplined and profitable growth over the next three years. Moving to HSBC Canada, as Dave mentioned earlier, we successfully completed our acquisition almost one year ago today. For Personal Banking, this has helped us expand our client base and drive scale. We're well positioned to benefit from the cost synergies that we previously highlighted as part of the deal. The majority of the CAD 740 million in cost synergies are driven through the Personal Bank, and we know that we've already unlocked more than 90% of these synergies.

On the revenue side, the acquisition has allowed us to build global capabilities that we're now selling across our wider RBC base. In addition, we're bringing the best of RBC's products to our HSBC Canada clients to deepen relationships and grow. The team is well underway to unlocking these synergies, and early results give us confidence we'll meet our commitments. How are we bringing this all together? Our goal is to own the ecosystems that matter to our clients, using our scale to bring existing and new clients the best of RBC and widen our acquisition funnel. This includes enhancing the value to clients of all the products that we have, and ensuring that we have a higher conversion of new prospects to the organization and a lead in retention for our existing clients.

Over the next five years, we expect to drive premium volume growth while delivering against a new net client acquisition target of 2.4 million. The third pillar of growth for us is AI and hyper-personalization. We talked about how our market leadership creates primacy and deep relationships with clients. We have done this by leveraging our data assets and being relevant to clients in the moment. We see the advancements recently in AI, as well as the growth in digital and mobile, allowing us to yet again transform how we're able to hyper-personalize and cross-sell. Let's consider a client's potential homeownership journey. It begins with a client looking for their home on Houseful, considering neighborhoods, schools, walkability. From this, RBC is able to present in-path information and tools that will help the client: affordability, pre-qualification, neighborhood considerations, a simple click-to-chat, perhaps a more meaningful booking appointment with our experts.

We know that as we do this, we can be meaningful and advance the client's journey. At the same time, we're able to bring value beyond banking to the client. This includes offers from key Avion partners to assist with moving, furnishing, and settling into their new home. We know that as we bring the best of RBC's assets together and create a more hyper-personalized experience, we will win. Like the mortgage journey, the opportunities for AI are presenting themselves across our business. We believe AI changes the way we interact with clients, creating seamlessness and ease. It simplifies the work done by our advisors, allowing for more focus on clients and driving sales opportunities. It creates cost efficiencies for us across the platform.

AI, paired with the strength of our differentiated assets, including our large data scale, modeling sophistication through Borealis, diverse product shelf, and executional excellence, will enable us to capitalize on this opportunity. Let me walk you through an example in our advice center where we believe there's an opportunity to unlock somewhere between 45%-60% productivity by scaling AI capabilities. Specifically, we'll automate processes and tasks, allowing us to remove advisor workload. We'll make advisors faster and better with new tools that unlock both speed to proficiency and productivity. These enhancements will result in time liberated for our advisors that can either be captured as cost takeout or directed to new sales. Our team will be in the room over the lunch hour to showcase the demos of many of these AI capabilities for the personal bank. Please take a moment to stop by.

Finally, the fourth pillar of our growth is the power of one RBC. As I mentioned at the start, the personal bank acts as the front door to RBC for Canadians. We are an engine of growth for the rest of the organization. As clients bank with us, the products and advice that they're looking for evolve. This leads to opportunities across the bank. It allows us to draw on the strengths of our partners in commercial banking and wealth management. Sean, Neil, and I have worked together for the better part of a decade. It's really through this strong foundation that will shape the work we're going to do together. In personal banking, we partner with the private bank and with wealth management as the sophistication, complexity, and wealth of our clients' needs evolve beyond the offerings that we have.

As Sean will discuss, we partner with Commercial Banking across the entire client base, but in particular with small business, where the vast majority of those clients begin their relationship with RBC in the personal bank. These are the four pillars that will allow us to extend our undisputed leadership in Canada. These strategies are underpinned by a robust ROE target of 25%, which, although flat compared to 2024, reflects that we're earning through the headwinds associated with higher capital attribution, which Katherine will speak to. In summary, these initiatives will help us drive premium profitability within the personal bank and across RBC. As part of our channel optimization strategies, we're looking to move simpler transactions to lower-cost channels to improve branch profitability and lower our cost to acquire and serve. Our products will continue to provide clients with unrivaled value and reciprocity through RBC Vantage and Avion.

Our data scale and AI capabilities will continue to be key differentiators, and personal banking is best positioned to unlock the tremendous value from generative AI, as Dave alluded to earlier this morning. Finally, the power of one RBC will accelerate the connectivity between the personal bank and our partners. It is through these initiatives that we'll drive premium growth relative to our peers and extend our leadership in Canada, including our ranking as the leading money-in franchise. We're also expecting a 300 basis point improvement in our efficiency ratio to target sub 40%, a testament to the strength and the scale of the personal bank. It is an exciting time in the personal bank as we accelerate our ambitions and we build our leadership through enhanced value, access, and personalization, and continue to be the leading personal bank in Canada.

We'll now hear from the Head of the Commercial Bank, my colleague, Sean Amato-Gauci.

Sean Amato-Gauchi
RBC, Group Head of Commercial Banking

Thank you for the introduction, Erica, and good morning, everyone. As you know, we announced commercial banking as a separate segment this past summer. Prior to those announcements, I've led our retail banking and payments businesses across both the personal and commercial bank, and I've also worked in finance and group risk management earlier in my career. Today, I'm excited to share the commercial banking story with you. I'll start by providing an overview of RBC's commercial bank, its importance to the enterprise and the clients that we serve, our drivers of recent performance, and our current market position, followed by a review of our strategy that builds on an exceptionally strong foundation, including by targeting key strategic segments to drive premium lending growth, by differentiating with large clients and globally connected clients, and by scaling recent investments to extend our lead in deposits and transaction banking.

Now, I'll start by framing the portfolio from a client lens. At a high level, we have leading franchises across all three primary horizontal segments. Starting with small businesses, these are typically clients with $3 million or less in sales, where we have long-standing market leadership with a double-digit share lead over the next largest competitor. As Erica referenced, this is driven by our strong referral pipeline from the personal bank, the largest distribution network, and compelling core banking and payment value propositions. As businesses grow, we've consistently invested to support their expanding needs for relationship management, industry expertise, and lending and working capital solutions, which have contributed to this $106 billion core commercial segment, representing businesses with approximately $3 million to $50 million in sales.

Across the page, in the upper end of the portfolio, typically Canada's largest privately held companies, commonly referred to as mid-corporates, and which we brand as our corporate client group. We've invested consistently for over a decade to support the more complex and sophisticated credit and transaction banking needs of this segment. As a result, we've closed the market share gap to industry leaders. Now, a core strength of the commercial bank is how we connect the organization on behalf of the client, creating both a pipeline within our business as well as across the enterprise. As you heard from Erica, the significance of the personal bank's sizable client base and its powerful acquisition engine are important to this segment because approximately 80%-85% of businesses choose their business banking relationship based on where they anchor their retail relationship.

Similarly, our commercial portfolio of a million-plus clients, those businesses employ millions of consumers who are referred to and incentivized via our Vantage reciprocity program to hold their personal accounts, their credit cards, their mortgages with the retail bank, and their financial plans and investments with our wealth management business, as Neil spoke to earlier. Another driver of our current competitive advantage is our scale across multiple dimensions. We have had the investment capacity to develop a comprehensive suite of capabilities to serve all clients end to end, including that large national network, the largest and most talented advisory and coverage teams, leading technology and digital platforms, which I will speak to shortly, industry specialization in multiple verticals, structured banking expertise and capabilities with the most complete set and suite of transaction banking products.

When coupled with RBC's balance sheet strength, our brand, and our leading positions across the franchise from personal banking to capital markets and wealth management, these combine to deliver unmatched value for businesses, their executive team, and their employee base. As I mentioned, these broad strengths in distribution, talent, product, coverage, and balance sheet drive the scale to compete in every region and in every sector of the Canadian economy, leading to a well-balanced and well-diversified portfolio. Through recent strategic initiatives that I'll cover in a few minutes, we've observed existing clients rewarding us with more of their wallet, with 80% of recent loan growth emanating from our backbook, leading to further improved portfolio diversification. The outcome of the scale advantage, the strategic investments, and a broadly diversified portfolio is consistent outperformance on the balance sheet and the P&L.

We have market leadership positions with a $300 billion deposit base and a $180 billion lending portfolio, with double-digit growth on both sides of the balance sheet before the HSBC Canada acquisition, where we now enjoy a greater than 500 basis points share lead over the next closest competitor. As you see, we generate high-quality earnings with double-digit compounded annual growth and revenue reaching $7.4 billion in 2024 and contributing approximately 21% of enterprise PPPT at approximately $5 billion. This is achieved through solid through-the-cycle credit performance, delivering strong ROEs and a highly productive franchise, resulting in an enterprise-best 34% efficiency ratio. As I turn to discussing the investments and drivers of our future growth, as you've heard throughout today, we are clearly operating in a volatile environment, resulting in uncertainty and its impact on near-term business investment and capital flows.

As Dave mentioned, these macro forces are taken into account as we develop and implement our strategies. However, we are confident that the diversification of the portfolio and the resilience of the portfolio, driven by the resilience of Canada's entrepreneurs, will drive, as they always tend to do, evolutions to business models, new innovations, and will ultimately support ongoing portfolio growth. Our go-forward strategy is anchored on the combined effect of our foundational strengths and scale advantage to support Canadian businesses on maximizing the value of the HSBC acquisition with access to new segments and revenue pools, and by investing to drive efficiency, lending, and deposit volume growth, driving increased fee income growth, which will combine to contribute to earnings growth and enhanced shareholder returns. I'll now take you through each of these four pillars individually.

To begin, I'll speak to our digital and AI investments, which will primarily impact new client acquisition at the lower end of the portfolio and will support efficiency improvements and productivity in commercial and wholesale lending. Now, starting with our small business segment, whereas, as I said, we have a long-standing and entrenched leadership position with double-digit share advantage over our next largest competitor. From this exceptionally strong base, more recently, we've accelerated growth with three consecutive years of record new client acquisition, driven by our efforts to advance digitization of the account open and business credit card experience, resulting in an additional 50,000 new accounts opened annually over our previous strong run rate. SMEs are a highly attractive client base. They are a pipeline to our commercial segment and to cross-sell into personal banking.

This is a very deposit-rich segment with a four-and-a-half-to-one deposit-to-loan ratio, with strong correlation, as you can see, of new client acquisition to deposit growth as volumes have accelerated in line with client acquisition. Client primacy is also very strong in this segment, with deep transactional relationships that power our data scale, our risk, fraud, and marketing modeling, and our burgeoning AI ambitions. Another area of importance to business clients is access to our broad partnership value built over several years since our last investor day. We have invested consistently in numerous strategic assets to create both the top-of-funnel opportunities and deeper and stickier relationships for clients. I will share just a couple of examples in the interest of time.

Owner, which is a venture that supports business registration, has become a very strong feeder pool of new SME clients, now directly contributing 15% of the new client acquisition numbers I shared. Dr. Bill, which has a strong penetration of our target physician base, with 22% of physicians in BC and Ontario now using this payment service, and we have plans to scale this to other markets. Although we have a clear leadership across small and mid-size segments, opportunity remains mainly around digitization and leveraging data and AI to further propel our client acquisition and efficiency objectives, starting with what we believe will be a game changer. Our ambition here is to transform the standard industry experience of digital account opening to onboarding a full client relationship.

This is an important distinction because a client is defined by a more comprehensive relationship, which includes everything from a business account and credit card to online tax filing to setting up all their payments and their payrolls, all on our digital platform. Essentially, they become a fully operational client through an integrated and intuitive end-to-end digital experience. Therefore, they are now an active client, not just an account holder. Today, our digital capabilities support approximately 80% of new account acquisitions. However, only 20% are onboarded end-to-end digitally. For context, U.S. leaders are approaching 30%. Our goal is to more than double our baseline to 45%, which would place us in line with best-in-class leaders in the EU. As you heard from my colleagues, we see tremendous opportunities for AI to support our transformation ambitions.

Derek referenced Aiden earlier, and we in the commercial bank expect to benefit as this scales across the bank, firstly by expanding from capital markets to our mid-corporate and large commercial bankers. In the commercial bank, we see material opportunity to transform the lending experience value chain from a high penetration of automated adjudication in small businesses right through to wholesale credit, where we have an opportunity to automate and streamline an industry experience that is fraught with multiple handoffs, incomplete data and documentation requiring numerous interactions both with the client and across our internal teams. It is time-consuming, it is highly resource-intensive, and it does not scale efficiently. In addition, this opportunity will apply to both new money deals as well as the large backbook of annual renewals.

Now, while we're in the early stages, you'll see from the demos and the break that we're on an exciting journey to drive productivity gains, to improve efficiencies, and to better predict credit performance using early warning signals, leveraging the power of AI and generative AI. As I said, this capability will extend across business and wholesale credit into capital markets as well. Now, turning to our second strategic pillar with a focus on targeting segments that will predominantly drive lending volume growth. I'll start with the largest contributor to volumes and earnings for the commercial bank, which is that CAD 106 billion core commercial segment, where, again, we enjoy a wide share lead versus our peers. These clients' needs have evolved to require the expertise of a relationship manager, working capital solutions and cash management products, industry specialization across multiple sectors, and a broader coverage team.

We've consistently invested to build these leading capabilities across the horizontal segment and in key industry verticals of the Canadian economy. Moving forward, we will continue to invest in building talented relationship teams and solutions to enhance our leadership positions and to drive diversified portfolio growth. Now, our more recent lending portfolio growth that we've reported has been fueled by a concerted and well-executed strategy to identify both horizontal and sector-specific opportunities, to organize around them, to develop tailored solutions and value propositions, and ultimately to drive positive outcomes. To bring this to light, historically, we were under-indexed in the larger commercial space, just below the mid-corporate space, where we lacked the expertise and the specialized coverage that is required by these sophisticated clients. Approximately three years ago, we established this as a strategic segment in the enterprise. We targeted key growth sectors. We aligned our best relationship managers.

We created this dedicated and senior underwriting team and a coverage model approach similar to our mid-corporate experience. This strategy has been successful in creating momentum with a more balanced and improved portfolio diversification, achieving strong share gains, all without an expansion of risk appetite. This proven formula is also applied in key industry verticals. For example, in the tech ecosystem, our gap here was in expertise with serving pre-profit tech firms and top-tier VCs. As you can imagine, credible expertise is of paramount importance in this segment. We started by recruiting top talent from industry leaders who, in turn, built the best team, platform, and product suite in the market, and the outcomes have been very powerful. Today, we are winning more mandates from VCs and tech firms. We're generating strong deposits, and we now bank 11 of Canada's 20 unicorn companies.

This reinforces our strategy and ability to successfully pursue areas where we see opportunities for significant growth. Now, I'd be remiss if I didn't briefly cover our largest segment of commercial real estate. This is built on a long-standing foundation of deep and long-tenured relationships with top-tier and reputable developers and owners, with prudent underwriting principles and a strong risk discipline, diversification, and tailored lending structures across asset classes, and with recourse and enhanced portfolio monitoring and governance. Now, while recent challenges in the sector are driving lower levels of activity in certain asset classes, such as condos and office, as we know, we are seeing some momentum in income-producing properties, in pre-development loans to select top-tier developers, and the shift to purpose-built rentals and apartments.

We are confident that our strong relationship with these developers and the diversification of the portfolio allows us to capitalize on the expected recovery of this sector. Now, turning to our third key client segment, our corporate client group or the mid-corporate segment. As I mentioned, we have methodically executed on this strategy for over a decade. When we started, we had a very small team, and we have made steady and consistent investments in the space. This team is now comprised of over 400 highly credible corporate bankers, a dedicated senior underwriting team, and mid-market specialty finance and syndication experts and the appropriate products to serve their needs. These combine to address the more complex needs of this segment, and we have executed on this strategy through the cycle with sound risk discipline to build the brand, complex solutions, credibility, and reputation with clients and COIs.

We are increasingly winning more mandates from existing clients as they expand and invest in CapEx, and we are winning more lead positions in syndicates, which is translating into sustained and market-leading growth of 16% compounded annually over the last five years and notable share gains. An important reminder, this is without expanding risk appetite. The HSBC portfolio is intentionally positioned in this part of the presentation because it is highly complementary to this strategy, with a disproportionate impact on large commercial and private corporate client segments, where we have experienced a 45% growth with our higher penetration in certain sectors where we lagged market leaders. The acquired portfolio adds diversification, talent, expertise, and products that drive important competitive edge relative to our peers.

These include the sophisticated cash management and treasury solutions products, international payment and trade products, strength with internationally connected clients, which are driving up our payment volumes and FX fees, and client-centric talented bankers with deep and long-tenured relationships, driving high portfolio retention rates and white space growth opportunities. This brings me to our ambition to combine our legacy strength and the levers of value of the HSBC acquisition, which will allow us to operate at scale in broader sectors and value pools and has propelled us now to a leading market share in this client segment.

We will build on the combined strengths of both organizations across a number of vectors, including a deeper bench of bankers and advisors, broad diversification with large clients, specialized lending and structured products, and RBC's balance sheet, brand, and reputation, which are increasingly a competitive advantage in this space in this part of the cycle. Our modernized and integrated coverage model, which is bringing the best of both together to drive continuity of expertise with our clients, and expanded access to our leading capital markets franchise to the ex-HSBC clients to deliver broad solutions where they were under-indexed in Canada, including advisory and origination or product. Now, these unmatched and combined assets will drive strong share gains with both clients and balances, with a discipline through the cycle strategy within our current risk appetite across target segments and regions.

Picking up on Dave's overview of the revenue synergies earlier in the morning, this is one of our primary contributors to those revenue synergies. With rebuilt pipelines starting to contribute to balance growth, we are off to a good start. For example, since close, we've booked over $500,000,000 or approximately $500,000,000 from ex-HSBC top-tier hotel developers, a sector that RBC was under-indexed in historically. Shifting now to our third pillar of the strategy. As you heard us say many times, we play the long game in our deposit strategy, where we've consistently built a leading deposit base across personal and commercial banking, with Commercial Banking now contributing approximately $300,000,000,000 or 43% of the Canadian banking deposit base, supporting our funding advantage and creating the launchpad for this segment of the commercial strategy.

As I highlighted earlier, in addition to the strength in small business and commercial and our improving position with corporate client group clients, particularly as we've extended balance sheet and won more lead mandates, has resulted in clients rewarding us with their operational deposits, cash management, and payments volumes, driving these impressive and quality fee-based income growth. This brings me to the second area where the HSBC Canada acquisition amplifies our strategy. If you start with the left side of the page, we're starting with a very powerful foundation. I referenced our CAD 300 billion deposit base. We have an award-winning cash management and trade capabilities, which translates to the leading share of fee-income-producing payment volumes.

Additionally, and building off of this compelling foundation, through the recently completed TSA period, we've also launched a modern digital cash management platform, which you heard earlier, we called RBC Edge, which provides material improvements in integrated payments and treasury management experiences with real-time data that contribute to deeper client relationships. Now, the feedback from CFOs and treasurers who are experiencing this new platform has been overwhelmingly positive, and we will scale it across our core commercial and corporate base by the end of the year. You add on top of that, we've also launched the sophisticated suite of treasury management, transaction banking, trade products, new global payment capabilities, expanded FX corridors, and complex liquidity management solutions, giving us access to new market segments and ever-more attractive fee pools. We are already seeing some very encouraging green shoots.

For context, we've only rolled these out to the clients we've migrated to the TSA and will gradually begin to cross-sell into our base. Just from that client base, we've already processed, for example, $2 billion of operational deposits, transactions in our virtual account management tools since mid-Q4 of 2024. Therefore, we now have an unparalleled and combined set of platforms and products that will further incentivize liquidity consolidation, that will drive a higher concentration of operational deposits, and that will serve the broadest market segments, which will add incremental NII and sustainable other income. This cross-sell opportunity will also be another primary contributor to the revenue synergies from the transaction. Now, building off of this enhanced transaction banking position, we are also uniquely positioned to support clients with international connectivity. These would include Canadian companies with international operations and distributions or Canadian subsidiaries of international corporations.

We have enhanced our compete level with these clients by expanding on the international subsidiary banking coverage team and client base, which we inherited from HSBC Canada. These clients are particularly attractive because they have a 10-to-1 deposit-to-loan ratio. We are now connecting them with local commercial bankers, as well as providing access to our capital markets and CNB teams to deepen those relationships. We also are offering our superior personal banking, private banking, and wealth solutions to the employees of these firms. We have a pipeline of future growth as we have established an exclusive referral partnership relationship with HSBC in this space.

Now, as you heard from Derek and Bruce in the Q&A, we are also very excited to work together to connect our cross-border cash management platforms into a seamless balance, transaction, and money movement experience, which again will further incentivize operational deposit consolidation, this time across North America. Combined with the efforts that I described from the previous page, our transaction banking ambitions will contribute deeper and stickier relationships that will generate strong and incremental, sustainable revenue growth. A common theme that you've heard from all my colleagues on the stage today, this is one RBC approach, which we believe is actually already a differentiator for us. However, we all believe we have compelling opportunities to deliver additional value. I'll highlight a few, including the North-South Cash Management Platform that I spoke to. The connectivity here will drive incremental FX and deposit referrals to capital markets.

Our ever-increasing presence with large commercial and mid-market clients, including the ex-HSBC base, these clients will drive increased referrals to wealth management, private banking, personal banking, and vice versa. For example, we mandate 100% of new large commercial clients to be referred to our leading private banking franchise. Finally, the powerful partnership between the commercial bank and the personal bank will continue to be an engine of growth and cross-sell across our respective businesses. In closing, I'll summarize a few key messages. One, we have an exceptionally strong and market-leading franchise and unmatched scale with the capacity to invest in building top-tier coverage teams, to invest in digital and AI, and to maximize the value of the HSBC transaction with expanded leadership in large commercial and mid-corporate segments and by driving value from our now unparalleled transaction banking capabilities.

These will combine to drive market share gains, the efficiency improvements, and earnings growth and enhanced shareholder value that you see on the page. It is my pleasure now to introduce our CFO, Katherine Gibson. Thank you for your time.

Katherine Gibson
CFO, RBC

Good morning, everyone. Thank you, Sean, for the introduction. This morning, you have heard from senior leaders across the organization outline their key strategic initiatives on how we are going to grow this organization, focusing on delivering a premium ROE of 16% plus. Over the next 20 minutes, I will show you how RBC will continue to outperform as an all-weather bank and why we are confident we will achieve our medium-term objectives. Now, I am going to cover this off in four key areas. The first I am going to start with is our robust balance sheet with a focus on how we are leveraging our growing funding profile. The second is going to be around a diversified revenue base and how we are growing our diversified revenue base and accelerating our internal capital generation by increasing business revenue productivity.

The combination of revenue diversification and productivity is noteworthy as it increases RBC's earnings and profitability resilience during times of uncertainty. The third area that I'll touch on is our disciplined approach to expense management, including how we are driving efficiency improvements and leveraging our tech investment to do that. The last item I'm going to touch on is our capital deployment strategy, where we're prioritizing deployment into capital-efficient businesses in support of premium ROE. Let's start now with our first area of focus, which is building on our strong funding profile. Our diversified deposit base provides a stable source of funding and supports our strong liquidity position.

Emphasizing the strength of our liquidity position, at the end of 2024, we were operating at an LCR of 128%, which translates to a robust surplus of just over $90 billion, which enables us the flexibility to execute on our strategies. Turning to funding, $1.3 trillion deposit base is what we're currently sitting on, and it is well-diversified across our businesses and has grown at a CAGR of 9% over the last five years. Our number-one ranked personal banking and commercial banking deposit franchises serve just over 16 million clients in Canada, accounting for almost half of RBC's deposit funding. These deposits fully fund Canadian banking's loan book with an industry-leading loan-to-deposit ratio of 98%. Over half of personal banking's deposits are highly valuable non-maturity deposits that serve as a key component to our interest rate hedging strategy. I'm going to speak a bit more to that shortly.

We expect our strategies will deepen client relationships and increase deposit growth, further enhancing our funding profile. A couple of examples of how we see this happening. One is leveraging our enhanced RBC Vantage offering. Number two is building out the U.S. banking capabilities for wealth management and private banking. Number three is expanding our transaction banking platforms, where we see significant runway to deepen our relationships with existing corporate lending clients. You heard from Derek earlier today. In the U.S., we are targeting $50 billion in deposits over the medium term. Moving to the second key area of focus, growing our diversified revenue base and accelerating capital generation. Over the past decade, we have grown revenue at a 7% CAGR, with growth well-balanced between net interest income and non-interest income.

You will see on this slide, the segment mix and the geographic revenue mix has remained stable over the last five years. We are excited by the prospects to grow net interest income in two key categories. First is client-driven growth. You have heard from the business leaders this morning outline their strategies to drive strong volume growth. Personal banking is targeting premium volume growth. Commercial is targeting high single-digit growth. Capital markets is targeting mid-single digit. By scaling our transaction banking business, we will be able to grow deposits that will help displace higher-cost wholesale funding. Now, beyond volume growth, we anticipate spread expansion to also contribute to net interest income growth. The continued benefit from our interest rate hedging strategy, coupled with improvements to mortgage spreads, are expected to support NIM expansion.

We anticipate a favorable shift in product mix, including a move towards non-maturity deposits to also serve as a tailwind. Now, taken all together, we are targeting the net interest income excluding trading to grow in the high single digits over the next three years. Before moving on, I wanted to take a minute to expand on my earlier comment around the benefit from our interest rate hedging strategy, also known as tractoring. We have structural hedges in place on our equity and our stable core deposits, with the goal of creating stable net interest income regardless of the interest rate environment. We hedge these portfolios in a laddered maturity profile that goes out two to five years. The yield of the hedge portfolio increases, as shown in the graph, as maturing hedges reprice into higher rate environments.

Since 2022, our gross hedge revenue has increased by $3 billion, which has helped reduce net interest income volatility and has also provided NIM tailwinds. Now, as we look forward, we expect the tailwinds to persist, with gross hedge revenue expected to increase by approximately $1.5 billion by 2027. Now, many banks execute a similar interest rate hedging strategy, but it is the scale of our core deposits and is what we just covered, the ongoing deposit growth that positions this strategy as a differentiator for RBC. Let's now turn to non-interest income. We're expecting robust growth in high-quality fee-based income to drive our revenue diversification while enhancing revenue productivity and supporting earnings stability. We expect to enhance business revenue productivity as measured by total revenue to risk-weighted assets in two ways. First, we plan to grow market-related revenue.

As you heard from Neil and Derek earlier today, they have outlined ambitious medium-term targets. Wealth management is targeting $3.2 trillion-$3.4 trillion of AUA and over $1 trillion of AUM in global asset management. Turning to global investment banking, they are targeting a 45 basis points increase in market share. Our second key driver is growth in banking and transactional revenues. We are expecting the synergies from the acquisition of HSBC Canada, as well as benefits from RBC Vantage, to continue supporting client-driven growth. We believe these business strategies will enhance revenue productivity by 15%-20% basis points by 2027. The third key area that I will talk about is driving efficiencies, where we are looking to extend our track record of investing for the future while applying a disciplined cost management to achieve a leading efficiency ratio of 53%.

We have a history of achieving the right balance between investing and cost efficiencies. Over the last five years, our expense base has grown at a CAGR of 7%. If you adjust for FX acquisitions, stock-based comp, and some specified items, our core growth over that period was 5%, with 2% of this primarily tied to variable comp, which largely scales in line with commissionable revenue. A key area of investment has been technology, which we believe will continue to fuel our industry-leading scale and further enhance RBC's efficiency ratio. In 2024, our tech investment grew to CAD 5.1 billion, reflecting a five-year CAGR of 7%. This is largely in line with all bank expenses and reflects double-digit growth in critical areas such as cyber, data, AI, and cloud, as well as digital.

Given the rapid rise in the number and complexity of cyber events across all industries, investment in cyber and safeguarding our clients and RBC are critical to our risk management framework and will continue to be prioritized. We also benefit from these investments in a variety of ways. Data scale is driving innovation and insights across RBC, allowing us to meet our clients' needs more effectively. Our consistent investments in technology continue to enable a differentiated performance, such as the seamless weekend closing convert of HSBC Canada and our ongoing cost synergies from that transaction. Further, it is paving the way for the additional $700 million-$1 billion in artificial intelligence value, which Dave referenced earlier today.

As you have seen throughout the presentations from this morning, we expect to drive efficiency improvements across all segments, underpinning an all-bank efficiency target of 53% by 2027. We have historically operated at an adjusted all-bank efficiency ratio of 57%. This has been impacted in part by our structural mix, with approximately 55% of our revenue coming from Wealth Management and Capital Markets. While we appreciate that reducing our efficiency ratio to 53% by 2027 is a bold goal, we are confident we can get there through the following actions. Number one, in the U.S., and as you heard from Greg earlier today, we are targeting a low 70s efficiency ratio by 2027. Key to achieving this will be improved cross-sell, optimizing our funding structures, and cost takeout by leveraging our scale across all of the U.S. businesses.

Now, in the cost takeout, we see opportunity to eliminate redundancies across our tech platforms and our support functions. We will also benefit from the plateauing of operational infrastructure costs at City National. Number two is the acquisition of HSBC Canada. It is expected to drive cost and revenue synergies of just over $1 billion. As of Q1, we are already at a 70% run rate for the cost synergies. Taking these two items together, these two levers are expected to drive over 50% of the targeted efficiency improvement. Now, beyond these two areas, critical to our efficiency improvement are our strategies to enhance revenue productivity across all of our businesses. These efforts, while leveraging our scale to keep fixed costs more stable, are expected to drive positive operating leverage.

Additionally, we are constantly looking to optimize our structural efficiencies to support our goal of creating long-term value for our shareholders. This includes our efforts over the past few months to take advantage of our global scale, to simplify how we work and elevate the leaders and talent who will shape our client-focused growth opportunities. We expect to see an investment for this reflected in the current quarter, with ongoing savings to follow. Taken all together, these levers provide a clear framework for how we will achieve our 53% efficiency target by 2027. Our fourth area is optimizing our capital deployment. Over the years, we have demonstrated a track record of performance through the cycle. We have compounded shareholder value over the past decade through steady earnings growth of 7% per year.

This, in combination with our leading ROE, has helped underpin a 9% annualized book value per share growth and fueled a similar rate of growth in our dividend. Our premium profitability has resulted in strong internal capital generation. Over the past five years, RBC's profitability has supported a robust 15 percentage point increase to CET1, which equates to a notable 75 basis points of internal capital generation per quarter. In combination with accretive capital deployment, drove a 110 basis points increase to our CET1 ratio to 13.2% at the end of 2024, well above our regulatory minimums. It is from this position of capital strength that we can fuel accretive capital deployment strategies in support of premium ROE. Expanding on the four levers on this slide, let's start with client-focused organic growth, which is the center of everything that we do.

As Erica highlighted, we grow alongside our clients, supporting their evolving needs and establishing deep relationships. Coupled with our prudent through-the-cycle approach to credit, this has led to consistent strong returns on risk-weighted assets. We will follow this proven formula for success, ensuring we deploy a capital ratio, ensuring we deploy capital into initiatives that are above our hurdle rate. The second item on this list is sustainable dividend growth. We strive to grow our dividends in line with earnings and are committed to keeping our dividend ratio in the 40-50% range. In fact, we have not cut our dividends since the Great Depression, underscoring its sustainable growth. Third on the list is buybacks. We have bought back approximately 1% of our shares per year, generating an IRR on these purchases of 11%. There are several considerations when executing on buybacks.

Accordingly, we view buybacks as a tactical lever to generate shareholder value. Fourth item on the list is inorganic growth. We are always on the lookout for opportunities to grow the business, but the bar is high when it comes to acquisitions. Any acquisition must make sense strategically, culturally, and operationally. The financials need to underpin confidence that we can create value for our shareholders. Let's now turn to ROE by segment. This slide illustrates our strategy to prioritize capital into capital-efficient businesses and how it's expected to drive an ROE of 16% plus. Our mix of capital attribution across the segments is weighted towards capital-light or high ROE businesses. We are disciplined in how we allocate capital, revenue, and expenses to our businesses, with only enterprise-level activities retained in corporate support. This discipline provides a transparent view of segment profitability over time.

Accordingly, the higher capital attribution rates in Q1 2025 have created a headwind to segment ROEs that we expect our businesses to earn through. It should be noted that this had no impact on the ROE for the top of the house. As you can see, each segment is expected to generate an ROE, in excess of our cost of equity, and in aggregate to drive our 16% plus medium-term objective. In the case of Capital Markets, it continues to deliver above-average industry returns as compared to peers, while providing strong earnings growth opportunity and the important diversification to the RBC portfolio of businesses. As outlined by Derek earlier today, we expect this strength in the segment to persist and are targeting a 14% plus ROE. I'm now going to walk you through the slide that I think everyone turned to at the start of the day.

This is the slide. The key areas of focus I have outlined here today all contribute to our expectation of notable ROE expansion to approximately 1% by 2027. The expected improvement in profitability is predominantly driven by strong pre-tax, pre-provision earnings across all of our segments. A few select strategies we touched on today will be key in supporting our expectations for ROE expansion. First, we have the highly accretive acquisition of HSBC Canada. Second is our strategy to grow and improve profitability in the U.S. Third is the scaling of our high ROE transaction banking business. Beyond these strategies, our focus on driving efficiency improvements in support of our 53% all-bank efficiency target will also be key to driving pre-tax, pre-provision growth and higher all-bank ROE. We expect these tailwinds will allow us to earn through headwinds associated with a higher effective tax rate and higher capital.

Embedded, as I mentioned earlier today, embedded in our 16% plus 2027 ROE target is the assumption of an effective tax rate that moves higher to a range of 21-23%, reflecting the impact from the implementation of global minimum tax and earnings mix. The other notable drag in arriving at our 16% plus ROE for 2027 is the capital build. Under the base scenario, we are assuming an annual buyback for less than 1% of shares outstanding, which ultimately results in a robust 14% plus CET1 ratio to close out the period. Now, with regards to credit, we expect PCL to converge to historical average levels by 2027. Although, given the current market uncertainty, the trajectory may not be linear.

In the near term, we remain prudent in building reserves, as the impact of expected tariffs in April and the increasing tariff-related uncertainty may lead to an increase in performing provisions. Overall, looking past this near-term uncertainty, these assumptions come together to drive our 16%+ ROE target in 2027 and reflect a 7%+ earnings per share CAGR. It's important to note that the 16%+ ROE target in 2027 does not fully capture the anticipated value creation from AI enhancements, as mentioned here today. Nor does it capture the potential for a tactically higher level of buybacks, should the conditions warrant. Under such circumstances, we see an upside scenario of 17%+ ROE and high single-digit to low double-digit earnings per share growth as highly attainable over the medium term. Now, given the significant market uncertainty, the importance of capital flexibility is paramount.

Now, on this slide, we've provided a sensitivity of ROE to a deterioration in efficiency and an uptick in credit losses. This slide is meant to provide investors with a gauge of how profitability could be impacted based on their respective view of the economic cycle. Accordingly, every 100 basis points deterioration in the efficiency ratio and a 10 basis points increase in PCL results in an approximate 100 basis points reduction to ROE. That said, it's important to consider the resilience of our operating model. We take a through-the-cycle approach to lending and benefit from the strength and diversification of our balance sheet and revenue streams, which are key structural mitigants in a downturn. In addition, we have several mitigating actions that would help uphold our premium ROE through the cycle. First, we can prudently rationalize loan growth in key impacted sectors.

Second, our robust capital ratio and internal capital generation provides a strong buffer to absorb potential RWA inflation. Third, we can deploy expense levers and reprioritize investments. Fourth on the list is our strong capital position affords us the ability to calibrate buybacks based on market opportunity. Taken all together, if market conditions lead to an erosion of profitability, we have the flexibility to respond to these headwinds by using a combination of these levers. In the case of buybacks, we note that an increase in our buybacks by half a percentage of shares outstanding drives a 35 basis points increase in ROE and a 50 basis points decrease in CET1. Now, in closing, I want to reiterate our confidence and our commitment to achieving our medium-term objectives.

The key areas we outlined here today include growing our diversified funding profile, increasing the revenue productivity of our businesses, leveraging our scale to drive efficiency, and prioritizing capital deployment into capital-efficient businesses. Altogether, this provides a clear roadmap for achieving our medium-term objectives. Now, with that, I will invite some members of Group Executive back up onto stage for our second Q&A.

Operator

As our Group Executives settle in for this second Q&A session, just a quick reminder, please do raise your hand. Again, the mic runners will come to you. Again, just a quick reminder, please do state your name and company name prior to asking your questions. On we go. Gabe?

Gabriel Bashin
Analyst, National Bank

Hi, Gabriel Bashin, National Bank. First question, I'll fire all three, actually. This is for a friend who wants to know, are you able to get Avion points at Canadian Tire now? Number two, on HSBC Canada, I saw $33 billion of loans. It was about $40 billion when it closed. I know there was a conversion to Cora that had an impact there. Maybe you've segmented some loans into personal, something like that. Just to get a sense of what the loan growth has been like on that commercial book since you've closed the deal, because there has been some deviation versus expectations on the credit performance. Something that I hear from a lot of other companies is balance sheet optimization, whether it's doing things like credit risk transfers or exiting certain business lines because they're sub-optimal ROEs or whatever.

Not hearing that from Royal, and I'm not saying that's a bad thing, actually, it's a good thing. Is the signal that your business as it exists today, you're always looking for efficiencies, whatever, but it's perfectly fine. There's nothing you need to exit?

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

Sure. Maybe I'm assuming you're asking about the $40 billion on the wholesale side, Gabe. Yeah, so the $40 billion was the total wholesale, inclusive of capital markets. There's about $34 billion on the commercial side. The $33 billion was the average for Q4. We're at $34 billion-ish now. The total wholesale business is still in that same range. The two factors in terms of expectations, to your point, the first is, I think, as we've highlighted a couple of times, the extended regulatory approval process resulted in basically pipelines drying up. We inherited a portfolio with empty pipelines. We've sort of focused on two things. One, stabilization of the portfolio, training onto our systems, retaining the advisors and the client base.

Very importantly, over the last year, executing on the transition services agreement, which was primarily for the cash management, treasury products, trade products, host-to-host integrations for those same clients. Then rebuilding pipelines that we've, I think, articulated over the last couple of quarters, we're very encouraged by. Over the last quarter, growth from the portfolio was actually in line with RBC's portfolio, which is actually inherently a synergy. I think the other.

We had a couple of balances that we knew would roll off as well that were government-related and temporary.

On the deposit side.

On the deposit side. You asked about optimization?

Gabriel Bashin
Analyst, National Bank

That's for, yeah, anyone, really.

Erica Nielsen
Group Head Personal Banking, Royal Bank of Canada

Do you want to take it or just?

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

Yeah, from an optimization perspective, you heard us particularly optimizing some of the smaller businesses that we experimented with, whether it was City National or others, or some of the ventures that we've rolled off. As far as our balance sheet goes, we're very happy with the risk structure. As you said, that risk kind of culture, that risk appetite has led to lower volatility than our peers. It has performed for us. We have been able to outgrow our competition. We have the balance between growth and risk at the right calibration, we feel. Hopefully, you feel that way, because the performance has led to that.

There isn't a need for us to move off large segments of risk that we've kind of miscalculated on, saying, "Oh, we need to use a credit structure here because we've taken too much risk in this sector or with this type of client." You've seen even when we go into maybe the higher volatility sectors in capital markets, and our holds, particularly in that non-investment grade space, are quite small. That diversification has proved out. We have a very well-diversified balance sheet that's performed through multiple economic cycles for us. We're comfortable with that risk appetite. Therefore, we don't have a structural need to say, "We made a mistake. Let's get rid of this risk," or, "Let's get that risk." We've got lots of capital, as you saw from our presentation. We don't need to do it from a capital optimization perspective.

As we told you, for two years, we would close HSBC for cash. And we did. We have got a really good handle on how we are building capital. Between those two issues, the capital base and our risk appetite, we experimented, I think, with OneStar, with strategic risk, just to see how they worked and see if we had the right mechanics. We did not like the economics of it. We did not like really the risk transfers either. I have not done one since. Hopefully, that answers your question.

Gabriel Bashin
Analyst, National Bank

That was great. Thanks.

Erica Nielsen
Group Head Personal Banking, Royal Bank of Canada

Maybe the answer on the question related to Canadian Tire.

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

Yeah, yes, actually.

I want to know, too.

Erica Nielsen
Group Head Personal Banking, Royal Bank of Canada

We were really excited to partner with Canadian Tire and Triangle Rewards because they serve a very large client base of Canadians, as do we through Avion Rewards. It was exciting to be able to announce that this morning. What that means is, as a linked loyalty partner, as you shop, as an RBC customer shops with their Avion credit card, they're able to earn points, Avion points, as well as accelerated earn on Triangle Reward points. We are also able to bring offers and redemption value from Canadian Tire into our Avion Rewards program for our own members who we know when we look at where they shop, Canadian Tire plays a large role in how they shop every day. It is a very exciting partnership for us.

Is there a question in the second row? Lamar, we'll go to you right after.

Vishal Patel
Vice President and Senior Portfolio Manager, Dynamic Funds

Thanks. Vishal Patel, 1832 Asset Management. Question for Dave, Katherine, and I guess Bruce as well. I was recently at the NVIDIA GTC conference. RBC was the only Canadian bank in Jensen's keynote address. You mentioned a lot about AI today. I think there was an AI slide by every one of the group heads. There's a specific number, $700 million-$1 billion. A, how do you get to that number? How do you calculate that number? How do you think about ROI on AI investments? There's a lot there. If you can help us understand that number. You got some demos. Help us understand that number. I think you have an upside number of 17% ROE on that as well.

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

Yes, exactly. I'll be really brief, and I'll hand it over to Bruce and then Katherine. That target number, we're very proud of our partnership with NVIDIA. We're doing some of the most advanced research and work with them. They were super excited to highlight one of the areas. That's not the only area we're working with NVIDIA, but one of the areas we're working with NVIDIA in their global presentation, which just reinforces, in my speech, we talk about 10 years we've been working at AI and machine learning and reinforcement learning. We've built an amazing data asset. While we've been training models for 10 years, it's allowed us to organize our data.

That is the number one barrier to getting generative AI to work right now, getting your data, and then getting those models embedded in your processes is the second big barrier. It is a huge, it is not just the mass of data, but how you organize it and how you use it. We have been able to train these LLMs that you are going to see in the demos today on well-structured data. Bruce has played a huge role in doing that. We have been able to bring these use cases to pilot much more quickly than our peers. Hence, Jensen showing us, showing one of the use cases we have done. That target, that $700 million-$1 billion, is based on a series of use cases from the bottom up to say many are deployed, but have to scale. They have been built.

Therefore, we expect them, once fully scaled, to have that impact. It has been stressed. It has been discounted. It has been worked on because we went public with it. We feel very confident in eight big use cases, to name a few, that can drive that type of value. We put a range around it because, obviously, they are new technologies. That is a bottom-up approach. They are layered across all the businesses, as you saw. That is why each leader got up and talked about putting one slide together. With that, please jump in.

Bruce Ross
Group Head of Technology and Operations, RBC

Yeah, so.

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

A little bit more color.

Bruce Ross
Group Head of Technology and Operations, RBC

We feel very, very confident in the $700 million-$1 billion of additional value, which is why we put it up there for all of you. We have taken a very different approach over the last decade to AI. When we look at our overall technology budget, $5 billion is a lot of money annually. We look at it in really three areas. One, how do we deliver a safe, sound operational environment that is able to scale to do things like HSBC is one piece of it. The second piece of it is delivering on the capabilities that the business needs for now and in the medium term, the three-year outlook. The third is, what does the future look like? We knew that data and AI was going to be massively important to us dating back a decade ago, which is why we then built Borealis.

If you put three themes together for this capability and how it impacts our business, I'd say it's three different areas. First is operational efficiency. How do we get more efficient as an organization and including an IT shop, a manufacturing engine? We've been doing things like taking LLMs, Copilot, et cetera, and being able to put it into our environment. We're seeing amazing results in terms of productivity just in our manufacturing line of building capability. You're also going to see it, and you'll see my colleagues talked about it. You'll see that operational efficiency showing up in things like the advice center and some of the other areas. We actually deployed some of that technology during the HSBC integration.

It allowed us to be able to get through the first couple of days without bringing any additional advice center agents on board, for instance. The second area is really, how do you make the 80% as good as that top 10% that Dave was talking about earlier? There, again, some of the things Derek mentioned, Erica mentioned, which are things like, how do we get better offers in front of our clients more quickly? That is part of our personalization approach. It is actually how Neil talked about how we get advisors able to do their prep more quickly for clients. You will see those there, too. The third area is directly to clients. The engine underneath Avion, as Erica talked about, being able to actually help clients get to better decisions faster, have a better day, those are all part of it, too.

Underlying it is probably what NVIDIA was talking about, but it's actually a couple of components. One, it's obviously you've got to have data scale and business scale. Dave articulated that extraordinarily well. If you don't have that, all this new technology that people are talking about is not going to help you. We've been working on that for a long time. The second area is talent. We decided to organically build Borealis. We have over 100 PhDs. You may have seen the patent numbers, over 1,000 patents since 2019. About 20% of those are actually AI patents. We believe then that that allowed us to then create two big differentiators. We have, I guess, three, I would say. The first is we've got the largest private GPU farm in the country. I think NVIDIA would say that inside RBC in our own data center.

We use a hybrid cloud approach, both public and then on-prem. We believe that's extraordinarily important for the safety and soundness of data, but also economics going forward. Second is what we call Lumina. You'll be able to see that outside from the technical teams, which is really a capability that allows us to manage the proliferation of AI, of LLMs, and everything else, be able to do that efficiently, but also do it safely, soundly, with the right risk profile to be able to fit within the environment. The third is we build proprietary LLMs. You're going to hear about this ADAM model, which is a proprietary foundational model, which is actually working on our own data to be able to create insights that just you can't buy. You're not going to be able to get it from OpenAI or anyone else.

That's probably more than you were looking for.

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

I seemed to get Bruce wound up. He could really.

Bruce Ross
Group Head of Technology and Operations, RBC

We only have 11 minutes.

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

A lot of stuff he's on.

Greg Carmichael
Executive Chair, City National Bank

Thanks for asking that, by the way.

Neil McLaughlin
Group Head Wealth Management, Royal Bank of Canada

You guys are waiting for that all morning.

Derek Neldner
CEO and Group Head, RBC Capital Markets

I've been sitting here silent for a long time.

Operator

Lamar.

Lamar Prasad
Analyst, Cormark Securities

Yeah, thanks, Lamar, from Cormor Securities. I have two questions, one for Katherine, then one for Dave. Katherine, you gave the 15-20 basis points expansion of total revenues to RWA. How are you thinking in terms of RWA growth? Secondly, for Dave, one of the common threads throughout this investor day is this client-centric approach. Some of your other peers have presented similar approaches, but execution has fallen short. A couple of years down the road, they're revamping their strategy. How do you incentivize this behavior of referrals across different business lines and judge success?

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

You go first.

Katherine Gibson
CFO, RBC

I mean, I was going to say, do you want me to start? On the RWA question, I would guide you to look at the numbers that we put out for targets on the loan growth. We are not expecting any significant shift outside of what that loan growth projections are in commercial capital markets.

Maybe on the question related to how do we think about navigating the client across our segments and making sure that that's accretive to what we do, I would say it really is a core foundational belief inside the organization that if you actually think about what's right for the client, then over time, the organization wins. We see that demonstrated time and time again. We saw that if you look at the recent inflows Neil referred to into GICs and then how that's going to make its way to mutual funds. At the core of that is just making sure that when we understand the need of the client, the placement of the product is second to the need of the client and that we then make sure that the client is placed. This works also across other seams.

For example, a client who starts with a retail bank and develops a portfolio with us of wealth assets and is ready at a certain point for a more sophisticated offering, how does that naturally transcend from our financial planning business into our DS advisors or our PH&N advisors? We have processes and procedures underway to understand what the client needs from us to have those conversations and then naturally transition that client into the next place. That is one of the ways that we do it. The second way is the way that we are actually structured to go to market inside our regions. We have a regional president who sits at the front of our regions.

Their responsibility is to care for RBC and the client writ large and to make sure that the placement of those clients, as we think about them, finds the best home. It is not a Personal Banking regional president, a Commercial Banking regional president. Their responsibility is to help us and help our clients navigate those seams. If you look at the most recent change that we made inside the organization and the separation of the Commercial Bank from the Personal Bank, we continue to ensure that that regional president in that role of stewarding the client across the organization is in place because we believe it is a competitive advantage.

Sean Amato-Gauci
Group Head Commercial Banking, Royal Bank of Canada

Erica, maybe the best example is our focus on reciprocity. We've played, again, another example of playing the long game. I think, Dave, you launched the original reciprocity program 20 years ago. Eric and I worked together to launch what we call now RBC Vantage, which supercharged reciprocity, which made it easier and expanded the number of clients who qualified for earning more value for having broader relationships with RBC. The common construct in the industry is minimum balance, which is not a client-centric value proposition at all. In fact, this incentivizes you from moving into the right product, but depending on the right environment. We bring it to life in product constructs, not just how we work together. We again focus on the client, provide the best value we can for the clients, and clients will reward us with more of their business.

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

You heard a beautiful articulation between Erica and Sean of your culture, your client reward systems, and your employee recognition reward systems all have to align on the behavior you want. To your point, so many companies, not just banks, get that wrong. They may have one piece or two pieces, but you have to make sure you have all three. We have cultivated that for decades. It takes a long time. You just cannot do it because you have to permeate it across 100,000 people. That is a core asset that we have that we have aligned that triangle very well.

Operator

We have a question from Sohrab. Then we have a question right after. Thank you.

Sohrab Movahedi
Managing Director and Financials Research, BMO Capital Markets

Thank you. Question for Erica. In your remarks, at one point you said there are 1 million RBC customers that hold their mortgages outside of RBC.

Erica Nielsen
Group Head Personal Banking, Royal Bank of Canada

That's right.

Sohrab Movahedi
Managing Director and Financials Research, BMO Capital Markets

It made me think about, how do you define an RBC customer? If they're not a mortgage holder, then what is the definition of an RBC customer?

Erica Nielsen
Group Head Personal Banking, Royal Bank of Canada

Yeah, so when we look at in the definition there, we're looking at a core banking relationship. So they would hold a deposit account with us or an everyday payment product like a credit card. And then those clients would have chosen another lender for their mortgage. So that in and of itself creates the opportunity for us. You think about what we talked about with AI being able to better understand the needs of the client and getting that offer to them sooner, then it's our opportunity to win when that renewal comes up.

Sohrab Movahedi
Managing Director and Financials Research, BMO Capital Markets

When you have, I do not know, 2.5 million new customers that you have in mind, should we be thinking about that over time as new deposit accounts?

Erica Nielsen
Group Head Personal Banking, Royal Bank of Canada

That is a net number. That is both gross new clients into the bank as well as the attrited clients out. The 2.4 million is after the attrition. We think about those clients may have deposit accounts, the vast majority. Well over 70% of those clients will be deposit-anchored clients. That is really the core of where we drive that acquisition. We have some ancillary products. Clients might choose a credit card with us and not be anchored back in, but that is our opportunity to get. Sean and I were just talking about the role of RBC Vantage and what we do across product is really about winning the client's total business.

When they come into us, regardless of which product they start in, the deposit account, a mortgage, or a credit card with us, our whole mechanism is designed to capture the breadth of their offerings with us.

Sohrab Movahedi
Managing Director and Financials Research, BMO Capital Markets

Thank you.

Operator

We have a question here on row number three, and then Paul.

Second.

Thank you.

Yeah, thanks for the question. Brian Madden from First Avenue Investment Counsel. The question either for Dave or Katherine. I just wanted to probe a little bit deeper on the $700 million-$1 billion of value generated by AI and appreciating the earlier answer with sort of looking into the eight big use cases. Just the terminology on the slide leaves me with some questions because as an investor, when I see the term enterprise value, I think I understand what you're trying to get at, that there's a $700 million-$1 billion sort of benefit to your P&L. The other way of interpreting it is the market will capitalize it to create $700 million-$1 billion of enterprise value, in which case I would have to infer the benefit on your P&L would be considerably lower.

The second part is, is that cumulative or is that sort of the annual run rate of sort of value creation by that end of 2027?

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

We have a very clear answer to that.

Katherine Gibson
CFO, RBC

Yes, I was going to say it is by 2027, it's the expected run rate. You can think about it as a NIBIT number.

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

Yeah, so it includes the cost we have to deliver that as well. So it's a NIBIT number.

Katherine Gibson
CFO, RBC

Yeah, sorry. Like anything that we would probably run as an estimate for an initiative, we stepped back, looked at these use cases, went through the P&L, looked at the investment, looked at the amortization. That underpins the number that we've disclosed here today. The only thing is we just did not apply tax to it. It is a NIBIT number, but fully loaded.

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

I think I used benefits in my speech. It is a combination of revenue and cost ticket.

Operator

Paul?

Paul Holden
Analyst, CIBC

Thanks, Paul Holden, CIBC. First question for Erica. You have been very articulate and comprehensive in your answers in terms of value proposition. Maybe take that and what I would like to hear is sort of how you are using it directly against the mortgage brokerage channel, which has been growing over time. How are you thinking about that threat and what is it in your value proposition specifically that is designed to help combat that threat?

Erica Nielsen
Group Head Personal Banking, Royal Bank of Canada

Yeah, great question. A couple of things we would say. First, when we think about the mortgage business, I think we start with looking at what does the client need from RBC and how do we serve the needs of Canadians? There are a couple of things inside that. We're watching clients as they interact with us. As you saw in my presentation, I was looking at and thinking about the digital experiences that we build. We're watching the digital experiences very closely to ensure that we're going to meet the client where they need to be. You saw us looking at our digital investment in Houseful. You'll see us, and we committed to some efficiencies as we digitize that business. We think that there's opportunities there.

As we look to our sales channels, we know that our proprietary mortgage specialist Salesforce is able to compete everywhere that a broker is able to compete. We know with the right tools and offers, because when you are a mortgage specialist at RBC, it is different than being a broker. You come with the power of all the insights. We just talked about a lot of the AI generation that is behind that to be able to serve up to our mortgage specialist clients who are in that window of purchase and better arm that mortgage specialist to win that next deal. We believe that through that, we are able to be well positioned both in how we digitize our business and how we think about our mortgage specialists to compete.

Paul Holden
Analyst, CIBC

Second question is with respect to the insurance business, which we did not talk too much about today. When I look at slide 209, what jumps out on the page to me is 35% ROE in insurance. If I look at sort of the ratio of capital versus PPPT, it is very favorable for insurance. My question would be what is the ceiling on being able to grow that business? It is only 4% of PPPT. Why not have ambitions to grow to something much larger given the returns you are earning there?

Greg Carmichael
Executive Chair, City National Bank

It's a great question. We happen to have our business head in Jennifer Publicover here. Jennifer is going to come forward and talk about that. As she's walking up, we don't have a limitation on insurance. It's many businesses within a business here. There are some wholesale components to it. There are some retail components to it. Therefore, Jennifer does have the mandate to grow this. Jennifer, kind of talk about the great ROE and how we talk about growing it. We just didn't have time.

Jennifer Publicover
Group Head, RBC

How much time is left? Just so I'm checking.

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

We've got a couple of minutes.

Jennifer Publicover
Group Head, RBC

Okay, boss. I really do appreciate the question because insurance, I think, is such an important business for the overall bank. I think there really is growth opportunity. We are on a transformational journey right now with insurance where we are really leveraging all the wonderful things you've heard about digital of the bank. That is one big component of our growth strategy, around the digital transformation. If you cover insurance companies, you probably know a lot of them are even further behind the bank from a technology perspective. We are really leveraging that in a lot of different ways, whether it's initial engagement with clients, advisor optimization, how we improve our underwriting, which is obviously really critical to the business. I would say that is one key component for us. The second thing is really around investment management. It's been a real core capability for us.

We're a top contender in the PRT market, and we've been building those liabilities over time. I think there's a real ability to grow that business even further. We will obviously do it prudently and price accordingly, but I think there's a real opportunity there. The last thing I would just say is really around brilliant basics of the business in terms of pricing, in terms of claims optimization, in terms of all the sort of efficiencies we can gain there. I think those are all kind of key components. I think what we've said previously about the business is that it's a mid-single-digit earning opportunity. We feel very committed around those three things, which I just highlighted around digital investments and then really the basics of the business.

Certainly looking for if there's other ways to grow the business, it is high ROE for a lot of different reasons, and we'll certainly look for opportunities to grow it further.

Paul Holden
Analyst, CIBC

Thank you.

Asim Imran
Head of Investor Relations, Royal Bank of Canada

If there are no further questions in the audience, I do have, I'm going to just read out a couple of questions. brahim unfortunately had to run. So one of the accredited analysts, Ebrahim Punawalla from Bank of America. Question for Erica. How do you see the consumer deleveraging cycle playing out when combined with slower immigrations? It seems like the last 15-20 years involve increasing consumer leverage that would seem to be hard to replicate. How do you think about consumer deleveraging, immigration, and its impact on your loan growth?

Erica Nielsen
Group Head Personal Banking, Royal Bank of Canada

Yeah, great. I think a couple of things. We are looking at the trend in immigration. It does create some headwinds to client acquisition, but that headwind is fully reflected in the 2.4 million net new clients that you have in the target that we put forward for the organization. When we think about acquiring new clients to the organization, we really think about three core categories of new clients. It's youth and young adults and students. It's the newcomer segment, and it's the mass switching population. For us as an organization, with newcomers coming off a little bit, what we're seeing is it's actually returning back to pre-pandemic levels from the newcomer population. I would say the last couple of years more of an anomalous period in newcomer growth. Now we're getting back to what is a normalized run rate of newcomers joining us.

We have conviction that we're able to continue to further penetrate across each of those segments. In particular, we have had acceleration in the team with respect to switching Canadians into RBC over the last 18 months. We have confidence that this is a trend that will continue for us. As it relates to the notion of deleveraging or reduction in leverage, I would say a couple of things. One of the most important things we're going to do when we acquire that client is to actually, particularly in that switching population, make sure that we bring over the leverage that they would have from other organizations to us. It means getting that credit card, winning that mortgage, winning the unsecured lending that they have, and bringing that opportunity into us.

If you have a moment to visit the showcases, I would go and visit the first one on this slide, which is really looking at retail credit. It is looking at how we are changing through AI some of the modeling that will allow us to better acquire the credit of clients when they join us through lookalike modeling. We take this very large data set that we have at RBC, are able to better understand the clients that may be joining us, and then able to make better offers at the point of acquiring that client to RBC. I think that will be a tailwind for us as we think about whether there are different considerations for a client's leverage.

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

Maybe I'll make a macro comment on the concept of deleveraging. We think about an aging population, I guess maybe the question is in conjunction with deleveraging over your timelines. I think as people live longer, as they look at their homes as a store of value and savings into retirement and the complexity of that planning cycle, you're probably going to see less deleveraging as long as, particularly if interest rates stay low where they have over the past decade, your house is a store of value for you. You can access that store of value relatively cost-effectively in a lower rate environment through leverage. You see America has done that with the tax deductibility of their mortgages for sure, but Canadians see that as a source of savings.

I wouldn't assume that an aging population without as much immigration as we had necessarily correlates to deleveraging for those reasons.

Asim Imran
Head of Investor Relations, Royal Bank of Canada

There are no further questions from the audience. I'm going to thank the panel. Just a reminder, our Group Executive, out-of-seat executives will be available after the formal webcast is finished. With that, I will pass it over to Dave McKay for some closing remarks. Thank you, Dave.

Dave McKay
President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada

Good night, gentlemen. Okay, time to bring it home. Thank you so much for investing the last five hours with us. Thank you for staying with us through this. We were so excited to share our story with you, and we're so excited to deliver this ambition, this accelerating ambition for you. We shared a lot of detail because we want you to have the confidence we have in each of these bold ambitions we've set, whether it's a 53% productivity ratio, whether it's finding and delivering $700 million-$1 billion of generative AI benefits, whether it's the $300 million in cross-sell into the HSBC Canada customer franchise and that new product suite back into our own franchise, whether it's the market share that we feel confident in taking from the Capital Markets presentation off the top right through to Sean's presentation.

In each of these businesses, whether it's in Canada, the U.S., or Europe, we feel we have the foundation and the privileged assets which are so important. The moat. We talk about moats all the time. What's the defensible competitive advantage that we have? Can we build this? We want to sustain our growth, and we want to do it through a cycle. Ten years ago, we set our strategic priority set that I'm going to read back to you that I think laid the track for this decade of the last decade of success we had in outperformance. Ten years ago, we articulated we wanted to extend our lead in Canada, which we've done significantly. We said we wanted to expand our global presence. We've done that in the United States and in Europe for sure. We said we wanted to deliver deeper and data-backed client experiences.

You've seen it. The reason why we're at the forefront of generative AI today is because we started a decade ago by starting to hire those 100 AIs. I participated in the recruiting up against Google often and DeepMind. We wanted to pursue balanced growth opportunities, which we've done. You look at our credit portfolio, look how we perform from a credit risk appetite. That lower volatility has always been a big part of our investment thesis, along with maintaining that robust risk management. The theme that hopefully jumped out as well today is we put clients at the center of everything we do. We've built these strategies from the client into the organization, not the client out, the bank out. So important in listening to clients. That's how come things like Vantage happen and reciprocity.

What's best for the client may not be in the short term best for the organization, but in the long term is best for us because it's best for the client. Concepts like reciprocity and Vantage come from always building from the client in. What I also want you to take away, this is both a growth story and an efficiency story. We have growth opportunities in every single one of your businesses. Derek kicked it off talking about equity finance, derivatives capability that we need to accelerate on, FX opportunities, investment banking, including our markets opportunities, corporate banking, right through to Sean and talking about the growth opportunities within each of those segments of our commercial banking. This is absolutely a growth opportunity and an efficiency opportunity. Macro forces, particularly even today, macro forces.

We decided to go ahead with this investor day because everything we've talked about transcends the short-term macro volatility. Growing, becoming more efficient, accessing new markets, growing outside of Canada, building AI capabilities are all going to be needed for a successful franchise over the next decades. We wanted to tell you that story today because it transcends. Yes, there could be short-term volatility that our economy and we will have to adapt to. You did not ask me any questions about that today. I'm super surprised. I was prepared to deal with a lot more questions about short-term tariffs and auto tariffs. Thank you for letting us focus on the story that transcends that because we do have to continue to build and adapt our business. All the things that you heard today make us a more resilient, more profitable, stronger organization that can serve our clients.

I want to just reiterate some of the privileged assets, the moats that we've built that allow us to sustain this, allow us to compete and win the marketplace. Our data scale and AI capability leads to faster training, leads to, thank you for telling the NVIDIA story. We're incredibly proud when someone like Jensen, I think the CEO and founder of NVIDIA, talks about RBC in the context, or when Mark Benioff at Salesforce talks about us in the same light on television on CNBC. RBC is at the forefront of generative AI and technology. When those two leaders talk about RBC, hopefully it's better than me talking about what we're doing. They give credibility to the excellence that we have and the opportunities and why we feel confident in that $700 million to $1 billion. We have operating scale. It's so critical.

We drive more profit per dollar of revenue than our competitors. That's incredibly important to become more resilient and more profitable. We have the number one brand in Canada, one of the top brands in the world. In a digital competitive space, your brand is your North Star. It's so important to build that brand. We protect and nurture and grow that brand. A lot of questions about our loyalty programs. We're incredibly proud about adding and working with Canadian Tire, one of the largest retailers and most successful retailers in our country. Our scaled loyalty programs, you can't replicate them. You can't find more Canadian Tires at the end of the day. No other bank has an Avion, proprietary Avion program that we control and we manage and we create value for our customers.

Those scaled loyalty programs and reciprocity to a number of your questions is a moat that can't be replaced. We have a diversified business model, not just in Canada, but capital markets globally, wealth globally. We're strong in the United States. 30% of our earnings come outside of Canada. You heard the growth opportunities in our diversified model outside of this country are very, very significant. What else is unique is we have a platform like HSBC with 900,000 customers coming on all that new product capability, being able to create those synergies and then growing. As to Sean's point, the pipeline was empty for really good reasons. We're building those pipelines again. We have an incredible group of employees that are turned on and driving the same type of productivity that their peers at RBC are doing. That's a unique platform that no one else has.

When you think about the opportunity set and how we're differentiated across so many of these key strategic pillars, we feel really, really strong. That's what drives our confidence and our ability to put up the type of financial targets that we have around the 53% efficiency ratio, around our 16% plus to 17% plus ROE and ROA targets. We feel very, very good because it's all built on the strategic foundation, on the financial foundation of RBC. A lot of work went into this at the end of the day. It's really good for us to go through this work because it focuses our team. It creates our performance metrics that we're delivering to you. It holds us accountable to you going forward as we'll report back on the metrics we've talked about today at a regular interval.

I do want to thank Asim Imran, one of the top IR people on the planet. We certainly believe that in the country. Asim's led us through this. It's been an incredible run. It's been good for our team and hopefully good for you. We really look for your feedback. Asim, really well done. Thanks for all your leadership.

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