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M&A Announcement

Jul 11, 2023

Operator

Good morning. My name is Joelle, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the TransAlta Corporation Acquires TransAlta Renewables conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star two. Thank you. Ms. Valentini, you may begin your conference.

Chiara Valentini
VP of Strategic Finance and Investor Relations, TransAlta Corporation

Thank you, Joelle. Good morning, everyone. My name is Chiara Valentini, Vice President, Strategic Finance and Investor Relations here at TransAlta. This morning, we announced a transaction that will simplify our corporate structure, enhance our strategic position, and deliver strategic alignment between TransAlta Corporation and TransAlta Renewables. We are here today to walk through the details of this announcement with everyone. Today's call is being webcast. I invite those listening on the phone lines to view the supporting slides and press release that are posted on the Investor Center of the TransAlta Corporation and TransAlta Renewables websites. A replay of the call will be available later today. The transcript will be posted to our website shortly thereafter. All the information provided during this conference call is subject to the forward-looking statement qualification set out here on Slide 2.

All amounts referenced during the call are in Canadian currency. The non-IFRS terminology used in this presentation, such as adjusted EBITDA, are reconciled in your MD&A for your reference. With me this morning are John Kousinioris, President and Chief Executive Officer of TransAlta Corporation, and Todd Stack, President of TransAlta Renewables and Chief Financial Officer and Executive Vice President of TransAlta Corporation. I'll now turn the call over to John.

John Kousinioris
President and CEO, TransAlta Corporation

Thank you, Chiara. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. As part of our commitment towards reconciliation, I want to begin by acknowledging that TransAlta's head office, where we are today, is located in the traditional territories of the Niitsitapi, the people of the Treaty 7 region in southern Alberta, which includes the Siksika, the Piikani, the Kainai, the Tsuut'ina, and the Stoney Nakoda First Nations, as well as the home of Métis Nation Region 3. As Chiara mentioned, today, TransAlta Corporation, or TA, together with TransAlta Renewables, or RNW, announced that we had entered into an arrangement agreement that will simplify our corporate structure, enhance our strategic positioning, fully align our strategies, and create value for our shareholders. The energy landscape has undergone dramatic changes since our dual company structure was set up a decade ago.

When TransAlta Renewables was launched in 2013, renewable energy assets represented approximately 1/4 of our portfolio, and TransAlta's business plan at the time envisioned us having cold fire generation well into the 2060s. Since then, TransAlta's decarbonization efforts have accelerated, focused on the energy transition and the reliability provided by our diversified fleet. The path to energy transition presents tremendous opportunities, and a combined company will be uniquely positioned to capture these opportunities, given our asset portfolio, skill set, and market position. With the introduction of our Clean Electricity Growth Plan, the convergence of the investment strategies of the two companies is undeniable. There is strong alignment between the companies, and there is this strategic rationale for maintaining them as two separately listed companies.

Importantly, the combination will unify our assets, capital, and capabilities to enhance cash flow predictability for both sets of shareholders while preserving the ability to realize future growth. We believe that the combination of TransAlta and TransAlta Renewables will firmly establish the combined company as one of Canada's largest independent power producers, with an extensive North American renewables platform strengthened by Alberta Hydro and reliable thermal generation in Canada, Australia, and the United States. The combined company will realize immediate benefits from its combined scale, development pipeline, ESG focus and commitments, strong balance sheet, and marketing and development capabilities, all of which will be driven under a common strategy to facilitate growth and maximize value for the shareholders of the combined companies. On to the details of today's announcement.

TransAlta and TransAlta Renewables have entered into a definitive agreement, pursuant to which TransAlta will acquire all of the issued and outstanding publicly held common shares of TransAlta Renewables. Under the terms of the agreement, holders of TransAlta Renewables common shares will receive the equivalent of cash of CAD 7.51 per TransAlta Renewables share and 0.4362 of a common share of TransAlta. Each TransAlta Renewables shareholders will have the ability to elect to receive CAD 13 cash per TransAlta Renewables share or 1.0337 TransAlta shares per TransAlta Renewables share, or a combination of cash and shares, in each case, subject to proration, with the maximum cash consideration being fixed at CAD 800 million and the maximum share consideration being equal to 46.4 million TransAlta shares.

The offer from TransAlta represents an 18.3% premium to TransAlta Renewables' closing share price at July 10, and a 13.6% premium based on the prior 20-day volume-weighted average price of the TransAlta Renewables common shares. Upon closing of the transaction, the pro forma ownership of the combined company will be approximately 85% held by current TransAlta shareholders and 15% held by current TransAlta Renewables shareholders. The Board of Directors of each company has independently determined that the transaction is in the best interest of their company and fair to their shareholders. TransAlta's Board approved the transaction, supported by a fairness opinion by RBC Capital Markets. In the case of TransAlta Renewables, a special committee, comprised entirely of independent Board members, was established to evaluate, negotiate, and approve the transaction.

TransAlta Renewables' special committee was advised by independent legal counsel and each of National Bank Financial and TD Securities. The transaction was unanimously approved by the TransAlta Renewables Board and is subject to approval by TransAlta Renewables shareholders. The TransAlta Renewables Board has unanimously recommended that shareholders vote in favor of the transaction. The transaction is expected to close early in the fourth quarter of this year, subject to shareholder and regulatory approvals and other customary closing conditions. This arrangement brings together the contracted wind, solar, and industrial generation portfolio at TransAlta Renewables with TransAlta's merchant renewables and peaking capacity generation, along with TransAlta's marketing and business development capabilities and growth pipeline. The combined company will unite a diverse portfolio of assets, both geographically and by fuel type, leading to cash flow diversification for added resiliency, while still retaining upside potential from our merchant renewables, peaking assets, and trading capabilities.

The transaction is strategically and economically attractive to TransAlta shareholders. First, the combined company will enable execution of a single strategy. All future growth will be pursued in a simplified structure through the combined company. The transaction is expected to result in greater capital efficiencies through the removal of a dual-listed structure, and the transaction will consolidate our growth pipelines. Second, the combined company will benefit from an enhanced strategic position. We will also be able to leverage our improved scale, more diversified asset portfolio and capabilities in all markets, grow our proportionately owned generating capacity by approximately 1.2 GW, and retain cash flows from TransAlta Renewables to mitigate merchant market risk, particularly given the weaker forecasted power prices in Alberta in mid-2024 and beyond. Third, the arrangement will deliver accretion, liquidity, and synergies.

This is an accretive transaction for TransAlta on a free cash flow per share basis, providing support to a strong and sustainable dividend. The transaction creates a larger combined shareholder base, increasing trading liquidity and providing greater transparency and ease of investing in the growing renewable energy portfolio. The combined company will maintain a high cash retention ratio that provides strong cash flow for reinvestment growth in projects. Lastly, the transaction is expected to maintain our financial strength. Our simplified structure will have a neutral impact to our credit rating, and we're confident that the transaction maintains appropriate balance sheet capacity to support our growth plans. The arrangement will increase the proportion of contracted cash flows and EBITDA contribution being retained by TransAlta shareholders. Our overall contractedness on a proportional megawatt basis will improve by 33%.

Our proportionate EBITDA, adjusted for the pro forma ownership, will increase by 14%. Our proportionate ownership of the renewables fleet will increase by 40%, and overall owned capacity will increase by 23%. Through the growth and expansion of TransAlta Renewables, the current structure has become complex and has created confusion and investment barriers for some investors. Asset drop-downs, tracking shares, net investment debt, and management services arrangements have all led to complexity that makes the investment analysis process and decision-making more challenging than it should be. The elimination of our current complex corporate structure will create greater ease and transparency in investing, unlocking value for investors. The simplified and united structure will facilitate investment in a leading clean electricity platform and enable direct ownership in all our assets and growth pipeline.

The completion of the transaction will remove complicated tracking shares and related party transactions, with investors owning the combined portfolio directly while benefiting from future opportunities together. Now, I'll hand it over to Todd to walk through the benefits to TransAlta Renewables shareholders.

Todd Stack
CFO and EVP and President of TransAlta Renewables, TransAlta Corporation

Thanks, John, and good morning, everyone. I would first like to emphasize that this transaction has received the support and recommendation of the independent members of the Board of TransAlta Renewables. No member of TransAlta's management team participated in the deliberations for this transaction, and the decision to recommend the transaction to TransAlta Renewables shareholders was made solely by the independent members of TransAlta Renewables' Board, who, together with their independent, legal, and financial advisors, thoroughly assessed the merits of the transaction. The transaction offers TransAlta Renewables shareholders significant benefits. First, this transaction offers TransAlta Renewables shareholders an expanded pool of assets and business capabilities. Following the closing of the transaction, TransAlta Renewables shareholders will have direct ownership in an expanded pool of assets, which includes becoming owners of TransAlta's high-quality assets in Alberta, along with the full benefit of TransAlta's energy marketing and business development capabilities.

Second, the transaction provides a clear and simplified path going forward. The combined entity will mitigate the impact of the decline in cash available for distribution that TransAlta Renewables will experience due to the near-term contract expiries, the financial impacts of the Kent Hills remediation, the challenging growth environments, and a material increase in cash taxes. These factors strain our cash available for distribution and our ability to maintain dividends at current levels going forward. This arrangement will provide stronger dividend payout rate coverage while retaining significant cash flow to deploy to growth. The simplified structure provides clarity of ownership, including eliminating the complexities inherent in the tracking shares held by TransAlta Renewables for those assets directly owned by TransAlta.

Third, TransAlta Renewables shareholders will have upside potential due to the currently strong Alberta power price environment and TransAlta's diversified portfolio in the Alberta electricity market, which is currently generating significant cash flows through the efforts and expertise of TransAlta's leading asset optimization team. Fourth, the transaction provides enhanced growth opportunities for TransAlta Renewables shareholders. TransAlta Renewables shareholders will be able to directly participate in the upside from TransAlta's full development pipeline, which includes in excess of 4.3 GW of renewable energy projects and provides clear growth opportunities going forward. TransAlta Renewables shareholders will also benefit from TransAlta's evaluation and investment in early-stage technologies, such as hydrogen and battery technology. This transaction achieves attractive deal metrics for TransAlta Renewables shareholders.

The transaction provides an aggregate consideration of $13 per TransAlta Renewables share, representing an 18.3% premium to TransAlta Renewables' closing share price on July 10th. It provides a pipeline of growth opportunities and a sustainable dividend payout ratio aligned with growth objectives. It provides 678 MW of renewable projects under construction that are expected to contribute to cash flow this year. TransAlta and TransAlta Renewables' carbon intensities are now more aligned than ever. TransAlta is on track to achieve net zero by 2045.

TransAlta's track record in this area is notable, with annualized emissions reductions of 32 million tons, a 76% reduction in emissions since 2005, which is equivalent of 10% of the emissions reductions necessary to achieve Canada's national emissions reductions target of 40%-45% from 2005 levels. TransAlta has also adopted a more ambitious near-term target for emissions reductions, targeting a 75% CO2 emissions reductions by 2026 from 2015 levels. One of the key considerations in assessing the combination of the two companies was TransAlta's focus on delivering leadership in sustainability. We're proud of TransAlta's accomplishments and progress in sustainability. Those efforts have been recognized across many measures. In addition to carbon reduction initiatives, TransAlta is a leader in ESG and has received an A rating from MSCI and an A- rating from CDP.

The combined company will continue to focus on ESG and on meeting its climate change targets. With that, I'll pass it back to John.

John Kousinioris
President and CEO, TransAlta Corporation

Thanks, Todd. I'd like to close by summarizing the many compelling reasons for shareholders of both TransAlta and TransAlta Renewables to support the transaction. The combination makes sense for both TransAlta and TransAlta Renewables. We believe the proposed offer reflects fair value and allows shareholders of both companies to participate in the combined benefits. The cash and share offer provides TransAlta Renewables shareholders with the option to receive immediate liquidity on a portion of their investment, while also providing the opportunity to gain ownership in a more diversified and growing clean electricity company. TransAlta obtained a fairness opinion from RBC Capital Markets that concluded that the consideration to be paid by TransAlta is fair from a financial point of view to TransAlta.

For TransAlta Renewables, National Bank Financial has determined the fair market value of a renewable share as of July 10th, to be in the range of CAD 12.25-CAD 13.60, and that the consideration to be paid by TransAlta is fair from a financial point of view to TransAlta Renewables shareholders. TransAlta Renewables also received a second fairness opinion from TD Securities, further confirming that the consideration to be paid by TransAlta is fair from a financial point of view to TransAlta Renewables shareholders. All shareholders will receive a sustainable dividend of CAD 0.22 per share in the combined company that has the potential for growth, while the combined company will retain sufficient cash flow for reinvestment in projects to capitalize on that growth, which will enhance future cash flows.

We're confident this transaction will generate benefits for shareholders of both TransAlta and TransAlta Renewables. We're excited about the simplified corporate structure and expect the aligned and focused strategy to position the company well for realizing continued success in the future. In terms of next steps, we expect to obtain an interim order from the Alberta Court of King's Bench, establishing the process for TransAlta Renewables shareholder approval and mail out the management information circular to TransAlta Renewables shareholders in August. We're planning a special meeting of TransAlta Renewables shareholders to consider the arrangement in late September. The arrangement must be approved by at least two-thirds of the votes cast by TransAlta Renewables shareholders represented at the meeting, and a simple majority of the minority of public shareholders of TransAlta Renewables.

Once this has been carried out and a final order received, the transaction is expected to close in early October. I'd like to close by highlighting the reasons I believe TransAlta remains a highly attractive investment and a great value opportunity. First, this combination will provide shareholders with access to a high quality and highly diversified portfolio. Our combined structure will enhance our focus and continue to drive our contracted wind and solar portfolio, our unique and perpetual hydro portfolio, and our reliable gas portfolio, all of which are complemented by our world-class asset optimization and energy marketing team. Second, we're a clean electricity leader with a focus on tangible greenhouse gas emissions reductions, which will be very important for our ESG-focused investors. Third, we have the united, diversified and growing renewables development pipeline and a talented development team focused on realizing its value.

This pipeline will now be completely concentrated in one corporate entity and will generate value for our unified shareholder base. Fourth, our company has sound financial foundation. This transaction will retain our financial strength. Our balance sheet is strong, and we will retain ample capacity to pursue and deliver growth. We look forward to your questions, I'll now turn the call back over to Chiara.

Chiara Valentini
VP of Strategic Finance and Investor Relations, TransAlta Corporation

Thank you, John. Joelle, would you please open the call for questions from the analysts and media?

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session. Should you have a question, please press star, followed by one on your touch-tone phone. You will hear a three-tone prompt acknowledging your request, and your questions will be pulled in the order they are received. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press star followed by the two. If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. One moment, please, for your first question. Your first question comes from Dariusz Lozny with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Dariusz Lozny
Equity Research Analyst, Bank of America

Hey, guys. Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. Maybe just to start off with, you mentioned this being accretive on a free cash flow per share basis for TA. Can you maybe put a little bit of specifics around that, maybe on a percentage basis or any other more granularity that you can give on the level of accretion that you expect in this transaction? Thank you.

John Kousinioris
President and CEO, TransAlta Corporation

Sure. Good morning, Darius. What I'll do is I'll maybe pass that over to Todd to give you some of the details.

Todd Stack
CFO and EVP and President of TransAlta Renewables, TransAlta Corporation

Yeah. Morning, Dariusz. Look, first and foremost, when we're looking at accretion, we're looking at a proportional accretion calculation. We're looking at what free cash flow we're acquiring from the 40% public interest in the transaction. If we can guide you through that with our investor relations team. As far as levels go, a lot of it depends on where you peg TransAlta's standalone asset free cash flow. As you know, you know, last year was exceptionally strong. This year, we're on track for great results. Looking forward to the next couple of years, we see it drop down a little bit from historical run rates. It really depends on which year you're looking at.

I would say there is some modest operational synergies in the transaction, and there's also some opportunity for tax efficiencies going forward. When we look at those numbers, I would say it's, you know, a high single-digit to double-digit accretion numbers looking into 2024.

Dariusz Lozny
Equity Research Analyst, Bank of America

Okay, great. Thank you. That's helpful. Maybe just to touch on the future dividend payout for TransAlta. Have you made any decisions as far as payout ratio or keeping the dividend more or less in line or proportional with what you're getting from RNW? Maybe just kind of, if you can speak about any future plans for that payout, please.

John Kousinioris
President and CEO, TransAlta Corporation

Happy to, Dariusz . I think we've talked a number of times about kind of the capital allocation approach that the company takes in terms of, you know, the amount from a deconsolidated perspective that we set aside for dividends. Right now, there is no change to the TransAlta dividend that is being contemplated, at least in the immediate term, so that's a CAD 0.22 per share on an annualized basis dividend for the company. Our Board reviews the dividend and our dividend payout ratio annually as part of our, you know, budgeting processes. I know that we'll be taking a look at it in the fourth quarter, in the early part of the year.

Right now, we're very comfortable with the dividend that we have, and we're not proposing any changes.

Todd Stack
CFO and EVP and President of TransAlta Renewables, TransAlta Corporation

Maybe I can just add as well, just for clarity. The TransAlta Renewables Board has previously declared their dividends for July, August, and September, and those dividends are also in place through the transaction close.

Dariusz Lozny
Equity Research Analyst, Bank of America

Great. Thank you very much. One more, if I could squeeze it in. maybe just kind of like a big picture rationale for the transaction, this specific transaction at this specific time. You guys have discussed various possible M&A strategies in the past at the TA level, and there are certainly other assets for sale out there. Can you talk about the balance of, like, wanting to bring these specific assets in-house at this level versus the benefits that you're getting from the simplification and the operational synergies, and how those two factors balanced in making the decision to do this transaction now?

John Kousinioris
President and CEO, TransAlta Corporation

Yeah, I think, you know, Dariusz, there was a kind of a confluence of events that resulted in us being in a position to pursue the transaction at this particular point in time. As we mentioned on the call, we think there are a number of compelling reasons for the transaction. I think, you know, creating that simple single strategy for the company going forward, I think is a critical part of the benefit that we see going forward. I think the company will have an enhanced strategic position. To a certain extent, we did view this as essentially the acquisition of 1.2 GW of generation that the company doesn't own, and those are assets that we know well.

From a due diligence perspective, it's very low risk for us. They're contracted, and I think adds stability to, and diversification to, the parent company. We do believe the transaction, is accretive as we talk about 2024, we see that extending into subsequent years, 2025, 2026, 2027. We think there's benefits from the increased public float and trading liquidity that will arise. At the same time, we're able to maintain our financial strength and the optionality that we have in the balance sheet, going forward. The company has performed very well operationally over the last two years. We're having another strong year. We have projects from the development pipeline that we're looking to bring forward in the, in the latter part of the year, many of which are advanced stage projects.

We continue to be active in assessing M&A opportunities that we have going forward. We don't feel that we're capital constrained, and we think we can execute the strategy that the company has embarked on, without being, you know, restricted from a financial perspective. We're able to deal with something on the TransAlta Renewables side, while absolutely being able to continue to execute the strategy that we've laid out for the company.

Dariusz Lozny
Equity Research Analyst, Bank of America

Great. Thank you very much, guys. I'll pass it along here.

John Kousinioris
President and CEO, TransAlta Corporation

Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from Ben Pham with BMO. Please go ahead.

Ben Pham
Managing Director and Pipelines and Utilities Analyst, BMO

Hi. Thanks. Good morning. Can you also clarify the cash side of things? Is this simply just the cash on your balance sheet, or are you going to take on more debt to fund the cash? The second one is, can you provide me the high-level bridge of how you plan to fund renewables, post the RNW?

Todd Stack
CFO and EVP and President of TransAlta Renewables, TransAlta Corporation

Yeah, maybe I'll start with that one. You're right. We are looking at using the cash on the balance sheet. At Q2 in a consolidated basis, we had about CAD 1.2 billion of cash. About CAD 200 million of that was in TransAlta Renewables, and the other CAD 1 billion was in TransAlta Corp. That's the primary source of the cash going forward. Again, remember, we're having a very strong year this year, and we'll continue to generate cash for the balance of the year through even through the closing of this transaction. Sorry, the other part of the question was?

John Kousinioris
President and CEO, TransAlta Corporation

I think you've answered both parts of the question, but Ben, if we were unclear, just give us a follow on.

Ben Pham
Managing Director and Pipelines and Utilities Analyst, BMO

Yeah, I mean, I guess just simple arithmetic. I mean, you basically, like, you're using almost all of your cash balance to fund the proposed RNW. I know you mentioned you're going to generate some free cash flow going forward, but you also mentioned Alberta power prices are going to come down, and you have a contract expiring in a couple of years, more, I guess, at the RNW level. With that outlook, can you actually fund your renewable growth plans on your balance sheet, or how do we think about that then, pro forma?

Todd Stack
CFO and EVP and President of TransAlta Renewables, TransAlta Corporation

Absolutely, Ben. I mean, when we looked at this, we wanted to make sure that the amount of cash that we're using in the transaction didn't impede our ability to execute not only the projects that are currently under construction and will be finished at the end of this year or throughout this year, but also our objective target of adding, you know, call it 400 MW or 500 MW of renewables growth or new energy growth every year. That was absolutely taken into consideration. We see the cash flow generation of the company being sufficient to support funding for funding that growth plan.

John Kousinioris
President and CEO, TransAlta Corporation

Actually, Ben, when we look at it, we feel very confident going, frankly, to the end of the decade from that perspective. No issues from our perspective in doing that.

Ben Pham
Managing Director and Pipelines and Utilities Analyst, BMO

I got it. Maybe a follow-up on the question, accretion. It sounds like when your communication of accretion, there's a range, but it's also, it's not just looking at 2024, you're looking out a number of years as well.

Todd Stack
CFO and EVP and President of TransAlta Renewables, TransAlta Corporation

Absolutely. In fact, the, you know, the accretion remains strong through the end of the decade. Look, that's just looking at some of the mean guidance from the analyst community, as well as our internal forecasts.

Ben Pham
Managing Director and Pipelines and Utilities Analyst, BMO

Okay, got it. Okay, thank you.

John Kousinioris
President and CEO, TransAlta Corporation

Thank you, Ben.

Operator

Your next question comes from Patrick Kenny with National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.

Patrick Kenny
Managing Director and Research Analyst, National Bank Financial

Thank you. Good morning. Here I thought the bull riding would be the biggest event of the day.

John Kousinioris
President and CEO, TransAlta Corporation

Good morning, Patrick.

Patrick Kenny
Managing Director and Research Analyst, National Bank Financial

Good morning. I guess, just given, you know, the benefits here of simplifying the corporate structure, curious how you're thinking about further steps towards the ultimate goal of achieving, you know, an easy-to-understand story. Not sure if there's anything else you could do over the near term with respect to, you know, Brookfield's investment in the Alberta Hydro fleet, or perhaps if there's any other consolidation or divestment opportunities within your Alberta thermal fleet that might align with your goals of achieving a simplified corporate structure.

John Kousinioris
President and CEO, TransAlta Corporation

Yeah. No, thank you for that, Patrick. Look, we're focused on primarily getting our Clean Electricity Growth Plan executed out to 2025, and have already begun thinking about kind of what appropriate targets should be for the back half of the decade. you know, we'll be outlining all of that during the course of Investor Day. I think for us, the key is to continue to be disciplined, grow with good quality projects that create cash flow for us on a go-forward basis. With respect to our fleet generally, in addition to the clean electricity growth, we see increasing and compelling opportunities, frankly, to provide reliability services to the grid. That's another area that we're focusing on from a strategic perspective.

You know, things like the thermal fleet that we have in Alberta lends itself well to being able to provide the kind of services that we expect the market will need going forward. We constantly look at the asset mix that we have in the company to see if it might make sense for us to dispose of assets and, you know, realize value that way, in the sense of assets that might be worth more in the hands of others than they are into the company. There's no kind of large, I think, an imminent transaction in that regard, I would say, Todd, that we're, you know, currently contemplating, but it is something that we look at.

I'm not sure, you know, that there's an easy transaction that kind of adjusts, I would say, the composition or the mix of assets the company has going forward. In terms of other transactions, you alluded, for example, to the Brookfield position on the hydro. I mean, our perspective is that arrangement remains in place and will sort of play out in the fullness of time. A bit of a, of a long answer to kind of say we're just focused on hitting the targets and executing our plan, and actually see benefits to sort of the generation mix that we currently have and the diversity of the portfolio.

Todd Stack
CFO and EVP and President of TransAlta Renewables, TransAlta Corporation

Patrick, I understand that, like, as you're aware, the structural complexity between the two companies is probably one of the top three subjects that we have with investors. Moving this forward to a successful close, I think, will re-remove a lot of the, a lot of the distracting discussion that we have around this issue.

Patrick Kenny
Managing Director and Research Analyst, National Bank Financial

Okay, thanks for that. You mentioned, John, no real change to asset mix, but I'm just curious, does today's transaction change how you're thinking about Centralia at all? Either potentially accelerating, you know, monetizing the asset before contract expiry, or perhaps, you know, looking at converting the site to more of a natural gas asset and leaning into the Washington market a little bit more by developing renewables with a natural gas backstop.

John Kousinioris
President and CEO, TransAlta Corporation

Yeah. You know, it's something that comes up a lot, Patrick. I'm glad you asked that question. You know, right now, our base plan has us running the Centralia plant right to the end of 2025. It is an important cash flow component for the company. It is performing well. The Pacific Northwest market is strong, candidly, stronger than we've seen it for an extended period of time now. We feel pretty good about it. The focus is shifting, though, on. It is unlikely that we would see either an accelerated shutdown of that facility. That certainly isn't something that we're contemplating. Remember, we've got the Puget contract to serve under that facility going to the end of 2025.

I'm not sure that there's a buyer for it, naturally, that would give us the kind of value that we see, extracting from that facility in the run-up to its, you know, legislative shutdown at the end of 2025. It's a great site, though, to your point. We are in exploratory talks for a variety of potential different types of generation that could sort of jump into the site, ranging candidly from fusion right through to hydrogen power generation. We are looking at the potential for renewables there, and storage, given the grid connection that's there. Everything from solar opportunities, right through to having a significant battery investment that could be made there. More to come there.

It's a very valuable site, and my bet is that it will generate significant value for the company going forward. I just want to address the gas point that you had. Very hard for us to see putting a gas facility there, largely because the supply of gas is super constrained there. Just You know, even if we wanted to look at it, I'm not sure we'd be able to get the kind of volume of gas that we would need to see a conversion, for example, or the development of a thermal facility on site.

Patrick Kenny
Managing Director and Research Analyst, National Bank Financial

Okay, great. I appreciate that color. Last one for me, if I could. Todd, you mentioned the neutral impact to the credit rating. I'm wondering if you could provide, you know, a little bit more granularity around the impact here on your pro forma debt to EBITDA or FFO-to-debt metrics. Also, just given, you're still non-investment grade, curious if post-transaction close, you know, you might look to achieve an investment-grade balance sheet at some point down the road?

Todd Stack
CFO and EVP and President of TransAlta Renewables, TransAlta Corporation

Patrick, I don't have a specific number for you on the, on the combined metric, just not off the top of my head. I know when we were looking at the analysis, we were well below on our forecast as we look forward to be under sort of our 3.5x-4.0x debt-to-EBITDA target that we maintain for the company. Really, we were sub- 2x as we went into this transaction, so we're in really great shape on the balance sheet. You know, the argument you made, one of the discussions we have with the rating agencies is the composition of the quality of the cash flows.

You know, not that we don't love the great cash flows coming off of the merchant assets, but they get a little bit less credit with the rating agencies. By bulking up the portfolio and bringing this cash available to TA, you know, shareholders and bondholders, it does give them that better foundation of stable cash flows. You know, that is an additional piece of ammunition that we'll be using with the rating agencies to discuss with them going forward. I wanted to point out we're, again, comfortable with where our rating is today. We have a strong business, even at the BB+ rating, and I think we're just getting stronger as we go.

John Kousinioris
President and CEO, TransAlta Corporation

Yeah, Patrick, you know, it's kind of interesting, the, you know, if you consider kind of the strength that the company has from a balance sheet perspective, and whether you'd be, for lack of a better way of expressing it, to be eligible, to be sort of investment grade. You know, to Todd's point, we kind of like the flexibility of where our credit rating is now. I think if we sort of bumped up, I think we'd probably be a bit more constrained, I would say, Todd, in terms of what we can do. Right now, I would say, you know, broadly speaking, the covenants that we have in our debt is investment like, I would say, Todd. I think we're in a pretty good spot.

Patrick Kenny
Managing Director and Research Analyst, National Bank Financial

Okay, great. Thanks very much.

John Kousinioris
President and CEO, TransAlta Corporation

Thank you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, should you have a question, please press star followed by one. Your next question comes from Naji Baydoun with iA Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Naji Baydoun
Director and Equity Research Analyst, iA Capital Markets

Hi, good morning. Congrats on announcing the transaction. I just wanted to start with some details about the cash versus share consideration. Maybe just some background information on how so you decided on those percentages and if there's any leeway to change that before the transaction is completed.

John Kousinioris
President and CEO, TransAlta Corporation

Yeah. Good morning, Naji. Thank you for your question. The proportion of cash and shares that we put into the transaction was based on, you know, discussions that took place with RNW and really from a TransAlta Corporation perspective, just to focus on what made sense for our company and our shareholders going forward, both from a strategic and from a financial perspective. It is our perspective that the reality is that the consideration sticks now. We do not anticipate any changes in the composition of the consideration being offered at all as part of the transaction going forward.

Todd Stack
CFO and EVP and President of TransAlta Renewables, TransAlta Corporation

Yeah, Naji, I'd just add, you know, we've, this topic has come up over the last year, as you can imagine, we've probably spoken about it. There were four criteria that we had, that we were talking about of what needed to be true, and two of those criteria were: one was no impact to our credit rating, which we talked about, and the other one was to make sure that it doesn't limit our Clean Electricity Growth Plan. Both of those goals are achieved with the capital structure that we've put forward here.

Naji Baydoun
Director and Equity Research Analyst, iA Capital Markets

Okay, understood. Just a couple of sort of bigger questions, bigger picture questions on capital allocation. I know you said there's no changes to the dividend, but just broadly, with this transaction, I guess you'll have more cash retention because there'll be less dividend payments at the RNW level. You know, assuming growth stays at the pace that you mentioned, with more cash in the door, any preliminary thoughts on sort of changes to capital allocation? More or higher dividend increases, more buybacks, potentially both. Just some thoughts on that would be helpful.

Todd Stack
CFO and EVP and President of TransAlta Renewables, TransAlta Corporation

Well, let me answer it in a couple different ways. First of all, you know, the dividend, we understand, is very important to shareholders and part of the value proposition, so it's top of mind always and a discussion point with the Board. I'll kick the can down the road a little bit. We are meeting with our Board, coming up here in later in July and August. You know, capital allocation will be part of that discussion. Then we are planning to have an Investor Day towards the end of the year here. We'll have more clarity on it, but, you know, definitely, you know, dividend level is top of mind, but we're very comfortable with where it's at today.

Naji Baydoun
Director and Equity Research Analyst, iA Capital Markets

Okay, just thinking through it, we'll have more updates before the end of the year. Okay. Thank you very much.

John Kousinioris
President and CEO, TransAlta Corporation

Thank you so much.

Todd Stack
CFO and EVP and President of TransAlta Renewables, TransAlta Corporation

Thanks.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. Please proceed.

Chiara Valentini
VP of Strategic Finance and Investor Relations, TransAlta Corporation

Thank you again for your participation, and appreciate everyone joining us on short notice for this exciting news. As always, our investor relations team will be available to take any follow-up questions that folks may have. Thank you, everyone, for your time this morning, and have a great day.

Operator

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