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Earnings Call: Q2 2023

Apr 19, 2023

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Familiar with this slide. TRX, what does this stand for? We're a team of experienced leaders. You see this, us on the line that have continued to deliver on various milestones and are rapidly growing the Buckreef Project in conjunction with our management team at the Buckreef Gold Mine site. We've had rapid production growth over the last year. We've had two planned expansions that come online on time, on budget, and are operating very, very successfully. We'll get into that as we get through the presentation. The Buckreef property Special Mining License has significant exploration upside. There are lots of targets on this property, and we've displayed this over the last year or so, particularly with Anfield, the Eastern Porphyry, and even the extensions to our Buckreef main zone. Just a brief overview of the Buckreef gold property.

It's a 2 million ounce plus gold deposit in the measured and indicated categories. Another 600,000 ounces in the inferred categories located in Tanzania. What we like about this deposit, it comes to surface, it's flat, it has great widths of 20 meters or approximately 20 meters broad. It has consistent gold mineralization throughout the deposits along a 1.5, 2-kilometer strike at Buckreef main zone. We're fully permitted, which means we can continue to grow this asset and production profile without getting the major overarching permits in place. The current Special Mining License goes till 2032. It's an extendable to, for 10-year periods to the end of life of mine or deposit. Our processing plant is consistently beating production guidance. It's also straightforward metallurgy. We in a grind crush CIL. We have minimal environmental footprint.

We recycle all water, have good tailings management program. We're on the national grid. As I mentioned, we have significant exploration potential, which always brings a smile to my face, and Andrew Cheatle will get into that in a few minutes. With regards to the Q2 2023 highlights, again, our a 1,000 ton per day mill is operating great. We declared commercial production on that mill in November 2022, and the last quarter produced over 5,600 ounces of gold, which is a 164% increase over the last similar quarter in 2022. Records at Buckreef, it recorded positive operating cash flow again, which is funding our exploration and operational growth. We are going to advance a third mill expansion. That mill has been ordered.

That will increase throughput capacity between 75%-100% by fiscal 2024. We continue to advance the much larger project. We have geotech work ongoing, metallurgical work ongoing, tailings planning ongoing, and other things. Andrew will get into that in a few minutes and further on down in the presentation. This is to get a much larger project at Buckreef, which we believe the potential is there. We've continued drilling in the last quarter, particularly around the Eastern Porphyry and the Anfield zones, and Andrew will give a highlight of that in a few minutes. Most importantly, everybody's safe on-site. Zero lost time injuries, no reportable environmental or community-related incidents in the quarter. We did have a release that we had over 1 million hours with no lost time incidents. That continues to be the case, which we're very lucky for. I'm gonna knock on wood on that because I'd like that to continue. Without further ado, I'd like to hand the presentation over to our Chief Financial Officer, Mike, and he will go through our Q2 2023 results.

Mike Leonard
CFO, TRX Gold

Thank you, Steven, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us. Steven touched on it. Q2 was another strong quarter for the company, we continued to see the benefits through the financial results. Again, it was the first full quarter of our new 1,000 ton per day mill operating at capacity. As a result, on the operational side, we produced a record 5,636 ounces in the quarter. We sold just over 5,500 of those ounces at a realized price of $1,845 per ounce, benefiting from the recent rise in gold prices, which of course touched on north of $2,000 an ounce very recently.

In the, in the quarter, we recognized revenues of over $10 million, an operating cash flow of almost $5 million, which we substantially reinvested back into the business. Amongst other things, you know, have expanded our tailings storage facility, for example, which will accommodate our much, much larger production that Steven touched on earlier. We've relocated a road, which will allow us life of mine access through the main zone. We continued to drill. We did over 1,400 meters that Andrew will touch on shortly of exploration drilling, as well as grade control drilling. We've also purchased pieces of capital equipment, things like gensets, generators, which effectively will replace equipment that we had rented previously and over time, bring down costs for us.

In summary, we continue to use that organically generated cash flow that the operation is generating to help grow the business. On the cash cost side, we recorded cash costs per ounce at $888 an ounce, which was above what we recorded in Q1, but in line with our expectations and our mine plan. The mine sequence for Q2 had us undertaking a stripping campaign, which was meant to unlock high-grade ore blocks, which we expect to see the benefit in Q3 and Q4, the second half of the year. And certainly expect to see higher production as a result. We did experience some lower head grades, in part due to the wet season. Had some inventory adjustments and slightly lower ounces produced in the quarter compared to Q1, which in part gave rise to that higher cash cost per ounce number. On a full year basis, again, expect Q3 and Q4 to be our strongest quarters of the year and continue to expect our full year guidance to be between $750 and $850 an ounce on the cash cost side. As far as gross margin goes, continue to be very, very strong at around 50% for both the 3 and 6-month periods to date. Again, demonstrate that the plant, the new plant is operating very, very efficiently and very, very profitably as Steven touched on.

On a year-to-date basis, we produced and sold over 11,000 ounces, generating revenues of almost $20 million, operating cash flow of over $11 million. We did it at cash costs at around $808 an ounce, in line with our full year guidance. Again, very, very strong gross profit margins of around 50%. Again, we continue to use that cash flow that we generate to make value accretive investments right back into the business. Again, Steven touched on it earlier, but another good example is a down payment on a much, much larger ball mill, which is expected to double throughput later this year. On the balance sheet side, it continues to be strong.

We had a cash balance at the end of the quarter of around nine and a half million dollars. We had working capital of about five and a half million dollars, and EBITDA of around four million dollars, which again, is a good proxy for cash flow. All of this really demonstrates strong liquidity to again fund that organic growth that we discussed a little bit earlier. Importantly, we expect Q3 and Q4 to be our strongest quarters of the year. We're working to improve on all the operational and financial metrics as we grow this business. Now that the plant is up and running, fully expect that to be the case. I'll maybe pause there and hand the presentation back to Steven. Steven?

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah, Mike, thank you. Just to give the investors and the group a sense to all the activity that's ongoing at Buckreef. There's a new road being put in place around the SML. We also have works around tailings facilities, new generator sets going in. There's a lot of activity happening out at Buckreef site currently, and there will be... That activity I don't see slowing down. I actually see it ramping up as we continually expand the asset at Buckreef. On that front, Andrew's joining us today from Cardiff in the UK. He's actually right now at SRK's offices there. I'll switch over to the next slide, and he will tell us about some of the things that are ongoing for the much larger project that's in, that's currently being planned. In order to plan that out, we gotta do the proper work, and we gotta de-risk it properly, and that's what the team has been doing, and a lot of that has been through our chief operating officer, Andrew Cheatle. Andrew, over to you.

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

Yeah. Thank you very much, Steven. Greetings to everybody from Cardiff, Wales, in the UK. We have been extremely busy with a lot of the preparatory work for work on building out the bigger mine. Take you through the list here. We have completed our infill drilling program, where we've been focusing on inferred mineral resources. We're looking to upgrade those to indicated. We've been drilling both to the north and the south of the historical mineral resource. We've also done some infill work on the eastern porphyry, which I'll get into in a minute. I'm pleased to say that the metallurgical samples from 18 holes of 19 drilled have gone now to South Africa. They have been received by each SGS, who are recognized global experts in this field. They undertook the first set of work we did some 2 years ago. We benefit from continuity on that. The geotechnical study has been ongoing. We've completed now the drilling and the field work. This is again with SGS- Terrain. Again, Terrain being a global experts in that field and had already been to site in terms of looking at some of the underground and early stage open pit work. That is now back in Canada with rock samples now going to laboratories for their testing of rock strength. In terms of the long-term planning as well, this continues to also be ongoing.

We've completed conceptual work with Ausenco in terms of mine layout and the plant expansions for the 2,000 tons a day. Also, very importantly, where do we place the life of mine TSF? We've have a number of locations of which two have become very evident to us as the ones to go for. We're now planning in terms of design geotechnical work for those two locations. Steven, you mentioned the mineral resource update. We now have substantive information to do that update, and I'm working very closely with SRK, again, global experts in mineral resource evaluation. I'm here with their team, as the company's QP, working with the SRK QP, to make sure this all goes smoothly. In terms of the economic study for Buckreef, part of my work here as well is working with the SRK management, to define that work. We have all of this going ahead. The objective for us is to obviously expand the scope of the 2018 PFS, the numbers for which are on the right. This work was done at a $1,300 an ounce gold price. Mike, as you mentioned, we have been seeing $2,000 an ounce. We're hopeful and expect to see improvements in all of these metrics that you see here. I think with some of the results we're seeing, we're hopeful to be able to show that this property also has underground potential. Let's carry on, Steven.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah. No, thank you, Andrew. There's a lot of work going on. This work needs to be done by the right people. It's being done by the right people and the right firms. Obviously, our goal here is to make significant improvements on that 2018 PFS. Capital numbers for what we're experiencing are way under, given how we're building this out. Certainly, you know, the geotech work needs to be done to get proper strip ratios and things like that. We're hopeful that there will be, you know, steeper pit slopes than the 52 degrees that were in this study. A lot of this work is ongoing, and we're cautiously optimistic of where it's gonna go.

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

That's right. I mean, certainly, as we've done this work, Steven, and, you know, we've taken a fresh look at the mineral resource. We're seeing certainly some sections here with just fantastic continuity and grades. You know, we've got to pull the whole thing together and, we're hopeful to have some, answers in the very near future. In Q2...

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah. On that front, Andrew, one of the things is that the work that's being done is on what's known today.

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

That's correct.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

The next slide is what's unknown and what we're doing on the exploration side. These sort of models and updates keep on getting refined as more and more resources come into them and are found on the Buckreef property. Let's get into that on the exploration side of what we're doing. A lot of the investors have heard this before, but bring them up to speed on what we're actually doing now.

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

Yeah. Thank you very much, Steven. That's a great segue. We have been drilling some more holes in Q2. These have been centered on the Eastern Porphyry and a few of them on the Anfield zone. Asset results have been returned, and we're basically putting those results together and the plans and the maps together, and we're expected to publish those results in a few weeks. Eastern Porphyry, I think, presents an opportunity for us to have a second mining front at Buckreef. It's receiving very close attention from the drill bit and also our estimation process. As you mentioned, we also continue to do a road deviation around the northern part of the pit. Steven, if you have the cursor there, you could just maybe just highlight where the road comes through the pit. Just.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Right about here.

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

Just about there. You got it. Yeah. Where the road comes through the existing road comes through the pit, it actually comes through a very nice high width, high grade area. Once we open up the new road around the mine, around the SML, we'll have unfettered access now to the existing deposit, which is good news from the mining point of view. The other thing is that the deposit does remain open on strike, particularly to the southwest and to the northeast, on the main zone. I think from an exploration point of view, and for those doing your exploration, to reiterate the point that between the Eastern Porphyry and an operating Chinese mine just to the south of us, there's over 3 kilometers of defined mineralization by virtue of the artisanal pits, all of which have been abandoned. None of them are active, that we have to go and drill. So far, we like what we're seeing. Some of the longer-term shareholders will remember that we've previously extracted graph samples from some of the artisanal pits, which are running at 28 grams a ton. There's an awful lot of work to be done there. In terms of an exploration play, we have known deposit to the northeast, an active mine to the southwest, and the evidence of gold mineralization in between. We have to put the drill bit in.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Thank you, Andrew, for that. Now with regards to guidance, I'll hand it back to Mike, who will, you know, reiterate our guidance that we provided in our Q2 MD&A.

Mike Leonard
CFO, TRX Gold

Yeah. Thanks. Thanks, Steve. I touched on a little bit of this earlier, you know, as mentioned, the new mill, the 1,000 ton per day mill, is operating at full capacity. Q2 was the first full quarter of the mill operating at capacity. It's operating really well, really efficiently, as Steven touched on. We've done over 11,000 ounces of production to date at the half year. Certainly well, well on track to achieve our full year production guidance targeted between 20,000-25,000 ounces of gold. We are reiterating that figure. I touched on it earlier, but after a fairly comprehensive stripping campaign in Q2, we've unlocked some higher grade ore blocks that again, expect Q3 and Q4's production to be even higher than we've experienced to date. On the cash cost side, again, at the half year, we're running at about $808 an ounce. We expect as we enter the higher grade zones in Q3 and Q4, that cost profile continues to improve, as well as the ounce figure, the denominator in the cash cost per ounce calculation. Again, I've restated our original guidance of between $750 and $850 an ounce on the cash cost side.

We touched on one of our growth platforms, which was looking at a third mill expansion. I'm pleased to say that we've made a down payment on that larger mill. That mill, I believe, is on the water and on the way to Dar es Salaam. We expect once we integrate that mill and expand the plant, that throughput could increase by between 75% and 100%. You know, over time, certainly expand production. Importantly, the guidance figures that we've summarized here today do not include the potential benefit that may come with this expansion, but certainly expect that construction to commence shortly and, hopefully towards the calendar end of this year, expect to benefit future production. I'll leave it at that around guidance and back to you, Steven, please.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah. Thank you, Mike. greatly appreciate it. One thing I wanted to get into in this call is we've gotten a lot of comments back on ESG, and I wanted to make sure that investors understand our philosophy around ESG. ESG to us is something that is kind of ingrained, and you just do it in business operations, but it also has to be something that benefits the shareholders and the corporation in general. Part of that is social license, and part of that is actually managing costs. A lot of our ESG initiatives are focused on prioritizing local content. When you prioritize local content, you create jobs in the region.

You also help to reduce costs and manage supply chain issues that have occurred in the economies around the world over the last couple of years as a result of COVID. On the ESG front around corporate cost, obviously, we wanna be on a hydro grid. It's a lot cheaper than being on diesel. We wanna utilize local suppliers as much as possible. As I said, we wanna bring the supply chain closer. Labor rates in Tanzania are lower than elsewhere. We also do not get import taxes, for instance. We wanna have training of local employees as well. Again, we want them to be as local as possible. If they live in the communities, they don't live on site. We do normal things like recycling water and things of that nature that are just good practices.

This ultimately leads to a lot lower social risk, as Andrew mentioned. Before, there are artisanals in this area, so we work and engage with the local artisanal small scale community. We've actually hired some resources at times from this local community to work on site and to help us advance the project. Our employees are predominantly local, so they live in the area. If they live in the area, we want their children to be going to decent schools, having decent medical facilities, those sort of things that if people remember the mining history of 40, 50 years ago, even in Canada, it used to be communities built around mines. That's not dissimilar to here. We work with our joint venture partner with regards to drilling. They do a great job on it. The international rates are actually very competitive and are doing a great job. The whole goal of the ESG program is to integrate with the community, be doing the right things, increase our productivity and the governance of our boards and things of that nature has all been put into place. It's really integrated into operations and it's not a charity by any means, but it's good practices. Andrew, you're very close to a lot of these initiatives. Got anything to add?

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

Yeah, Steven, actually, that was very, very well put. Thank you very much. Let me just illustrate by an example, perhaps. Many mining operations build massive concrete walls with razor wire on top to try and keep communities out. Because we have very, very good relationships with our local community, in many respects, they are in partnership with us, as it were, we don't need, and we don't have the security risk to build those kind of barriers between ourselves and community, which includes artisanal miners. They know that they're not allowed to come onto our ground, and they don't. There's obviously cost benefits from that, but there's also less friction in our environment as a result of that.

I think some of you might have also heard me talk about the fact that our CIL tanks, the big blue tanks you see in the picture here, the carbon and leach tanks, have all been built locally in a city called Mwanza, about 3.5 hours away from where we're working by a shipbuilding community that build proper big ships that we would be used to sort of seeing whether it's in the Caribbean Sea or crossing the Baltic Sea, things like that. 400 or 500 people that size ferries. They can build ships. They have all the equipment, laser cutters, plasma welders. They can bend steel, which they do.

Once we've sent them the engineering drawings, which we work with Ausenco, in terms of all the engineering specifications, we did not have to draw one extra hole or bend one extra piece of steel. It all worked. That gives us a huge amount of credibility in terms of our community, in terms of our local and federal government. That's been very, very successful. It's also from a business point of view and from a shareholder's point of view, it's a lot less cost. Instead of bringing in from Turkey or from China or from South Africa, we substantially de-risked the operation by working with people who are only three and a half hours away.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah. I'm just gonna finalize this, Andrew, is, look, what we do has worked. I don't know of any mining company that has done these type of expansions this quickly and for this cost. For it to be breaking the expectations that we have put in place on the production side of things has been great. Our strategy is working, and has benefited the shareholders to date in the development of the Buckreef project.

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

Steven, I'd like to just add a bit of quantity to those numbers. Typically at a 1,000 tons per day, we have been receiving EPCM quotes in the order of about $40 million.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah.

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

1,000 tons a day, shall we say for just about, I think, about $6.4 million. So that's been a huge benefit to the, to the shareholders. The speed at which we've been able to do this, has also been very good in terms of bringing revenue forward to allow us to continue to grow and, draw the operation.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

With regards to what's upcoming, obviously, we got a lot of work ongoing. The shareholders will continually see exploration and infill drill program results coming into the market. There will be continued news on our third mill expansion over the next 6 to 9 months. We have a lot of studies ongoing and a lot of work being done there on the met study, geotech study, resource model updates, tailing facilities, a lot of work ongoing, so a lot of news flow from that. The planning and execution of a much larger gold, much larger scale gold operation is coming. The work is being done. It's being put together. It's very methodical, so it does take some time to get it right.

It is certainly in the plans and Andrew Cheatle has been, and myself have been meeting with suppliers around this, as well as our general manager, even with regards to a much larger mill for the property over time. A lot of milestones upcoming and continue, hopefully good news to come in the future over the next year or so. With regards to where we are right now, share price has been going up with regards to gold price going up and as well as we start to, you know, get into positive operating cash flow. Hopefully, that continues and certainly that is our expectation as we continue to successfully execute the growth at the Buckreef Gold Project. On the last slide, I'm gonna leave it on this slide as we get into Q&A. As I mentioned on a previous slide, a lot of work ongoing, a lot of things happening, and very rapid progress continues at Buckreef, and we're hopeful that it's gonna continue to happen. Without further ado, Christina, let's hand it over to the Q&A.

Operator

Certainly.

Christina Lalli
VP of Investor Relations, TRX Gold

Great. Thanks, Steven. Gaylene, off to you.

Operator

Sure. If you wish to ask a question, please click on the Q&A icon on the left-hand side of the screen, and you'll see the options. Raise your hand to join the question queue and ask your question verbally, or write a question to submit your question in writing. When you're introduced, your line will be opened automatically. Analysts who-

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Gaylene, perhaps, I'll get into, do you want me to get into the Q&As that are in the queue?

Operator

I could announce the analysts in the, that are in audio queue, if you like.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah. Why don't you do that, and then we can get into the written Q&A.

Operator

Sure. Okay. The first caller on the line who has a question is Jake Sekelsky with Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead.

Jake Sekelsky
Managing Director and Head of Metals & Mining Research, Alliance Global Partners

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Congrats on a strong quarter.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Thanks, Jake.

Jake Sekelsky
Managing Director and Head of Metals & Mining Research, Alliance Global Partners

Growth is obviously a big focus right now, and just looking at the additional ball mill that's on its way to site. Can you remind us of the total cost of the mill and maybe some color on the installation cost there?

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Mike, you wanna give, just an overview of the cost of the mill, and then I think, there's a question in the Q&A queue as well that, gets into, how we're gonna fund this.

Mike Leonard
CFO, TRX Gold

Yeah. I can touch on it. I don't know that we'd explicitly guide it to a full capital cost, Jake, but I think, you know, you've got a sense for what the first 1,000 ton a day mill cost us. You know, we expect to improve upon that cost, I think is probably the best way to put it. It's effectively layering in a much larger mill with some supplementary tanks. I'd expect, you know, conservatively, something slightly less than what the first 1,000 ton a day mill cost.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah. Mike, also we need to upgrade the transformer as well for the larger operation. The generators that have been brought on the site will accommodate the larger expansion, and they're being installed as we speak. We haven't given full guidance, but, for instance, there are seven tanks right now on site. There needs to be an additional two tanks onto that train.

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

Sorry, so 3. 3 additional.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

3. Additional 3 tanks. I don't expect this. Be quite honest, it won't be as expensive as the first 1,000 ton per day plant.

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

Yeah. I think the only thing just to mention to add to the shopping list, Mike, is just some adjustments to the front end with our crushing circuit.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah. That answer your question, Jake?

Jake Sekelsky
Managing Director and Head of Metals & Mining Research, Alliance Global Partners

Yeah. No, that's helpful. So that'll be, you know, another low cost mill expansion for you guys, and I'm assuming it's not the last. Be able to just share, even just at a high level, any thoughts for, you know, future additional expansions and what that might look like down the road, even if it's over the next few years?

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah. I, what I would classify this answer as more aspirational, is Andrew and team are updating resource models. We're doing all these met studies and things of that nature. We wanna make this into a large-scale mining operation, and thus, you know, we envision this being a 3-4 million ton per annum mine at some point in time. We're now starting to work to lay that out in the groundwork, to lay that out in a shareholder accretive fashion. Part of that is going and evaluating what mills are available worldwide. We've been doing that. We've been talking to various parties around that, have a sense of what that major capital cost may be. Ultimately, we wanna get this to be a $100,000, $150,000 an ounce type of per property or even larger than that over time. You're right, there will be future mill expansions. How they're gonna look and how quickly they're gonna come online, that's part market, and that's part with the work that we're doing now and what the outcome of that work is.

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

I think, Steven, particularly with that exploration side of it, right?

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah.

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

In a very positive scenario, we may well have two parallel pits.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Correct.

Jake Sekelsky
Managing Director and Head of Metals & Mining Research, Alliance Global Partners

Okay. Thanks for the color there. Then just lastly, that segues into my last question for Andrew. On exploration, are you seeing or are you targeting any higher grade areas that you might be able to bring into the larger mine plan for 2024 going forward?

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

Yeah. Jake, we have seen, as we reviewed, historical information on the Eastern Porphyry, there are some higher grade zones in that that grab our attention. We were going to also continue to drill through from Eastern Porphyry to Anfield, where we did have those higher grade grab samples.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

To give you a little bit of a sense, Andrew, of what the type of work that's going on, from a mine planning perspective, you know, in a new resource model that's being updated, you know, SRK and the team have gone through and put all the sections in place. We have a much better understanding of where the high-grade zones are in this deposit than we have before. Certainly when you lay out a mine plan, given that it's predominantly based on net present value, then you will target those zones earlier in the mine life, if possible.

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

Yeah. Steven, I did mention earlier in the presentation that once the new road is open, which is a matter of weeks now, that enables us to go then through the position of the existing road. There are some indeed high-grade blocks, very wide, very good grade, sitting immediately to the northwest, which will now be accessible for mining. Jake, you specifically asked, I think also 2024, I think it's fair to assume that we would continue to extend the pit now northwards into that ground.

Jake Sekelsky
Managing Director and Head of Metals & Mining Research, Alliance Global Partners

Perfect. Okay. Thanks for that.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

That kind of answers the question. That kind of answers the question how we're going to pay for it all.

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

Yeah. I mean, you know, Steven, I think, you know, you just said the deposit, obviously, it ranges in width.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah.

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

You know, at its widest points, this deposit is 40 meters wide.

Operator

Okay. The next question is from Heiko Ihle with H.C. Wainwright. Please go ahead.

Heiko Ihle
Managing Director and Senior Metals & Mining Analyst, H.C. Wainwright

Hey, can you hear me all right?

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah, we can, Heiko. How are you?

Heiko Ihle
Managing Director and Senior Metals & Mining Analyst, H.C. Wainwright

Perfect. You made a pretty good lead over to my first question. It's impressive what you guys have done there in the last, you know, over 2 years. Looking through, you mentioned some equipment earlier that you're buying versus renting, you know, like the gen sets on this call. In fact, that was more or less your last comment here a little bit ago. It means you're front-loading some expenses. Can you give us some representative rates of return that you anticipate from, you know, buying stuff versus renting it?

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah. The example that I use is always a loader. We're gonna buy some loaders for the processing plant. They all cost around $300,000. We're currently renting two loaders, for instance, for $70,000 a month. You could guess the return on that is significant. With regards to the gen sets, you know, the return comes in two bases. We no longer rent them. We'll avoid the re-rental cost. They're now variable gen sets. When the electricity goes down on the line right now, we would need to turn on the gen sets 100% for the-

Heiko Ihle
Managing Director and Senior Metals & Mining Analyst, H.C. Wainwright

Yep.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Processing plant. When the voltage goes out on the line going forward, the gen sets will only come on to supplement the voltage. It'll burn a lot less diesel going forward. The return on that is going to be, it's a matter of months as well. It's probably around six, seven months is around that. If you apply that to a model in IRR, you got significant returns on those type of investments. We're doing that right across the whole operation now. Now that it's up and running, of going in and finding those cost savings.

Heiko Ihle
Managing Director and Senior Metals & Mining Analyst, H.C. Wainwright

Fair enough. Q2 was the first full quarter with the newly expanded plant. I mean, this thing is now obviously humming, but is there anything else that might be a bottleneck? I'm also asking this in part with the, you know, expanded milling circuit to see maybe if there's any lessons that can be learned as that is getting built.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah. You know, we're always open with the improvements we're making and the challenges, and challenges are always opportunities. One thing that we need to do, and is well under control, is expand the tailings facility. We're working with authorities now and then to get that new tailings facility up and running, that's well advanced. Also the borrow pit for that is well advanced as well. We don't anticipate any issues on that. Longer term, we need to, as Andrew mentioned, have the long-term tailings management under control. We're well advanced on that of identifying sites, working with local authorities around land, both on and off the property for that. We're working with Ausenco to design that. The goal for that is the.

when you're in operations, when you're doing stripping, you can move it over and build your tailings facility over time versus building it all up front. It'll be a tailings facility that's built for waste from the pit, essentially over time. That's one thing that we need to be doing. Another challenge too is there's a step change here going from, you know, 1,000 tons per day, doubling that capacity, 2,000 tons per day, and then thereafter. We need to organize mining rates, mining equipment, employees, all of those sort of things will take time and challenges to bring in appropriately. This expansion won't be ramped up as quickly as the other one because we had to get all of those sort of logistical issues correct, and it takes some time for that to be planned out properly and to make sure that the proper equipment and human resource skill set's on site to manage it.

Heiko Ihle
Managing Director and Senior Metals & Mining Analyst, H.C. Wainwright

That's very helpful. Thank you all, and keep up the good work.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Thank you, Heiko.

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

Yeah. Thank you, Heiko.

Operator

The next question is from Mike Niehuser with ROTH MKM. Please go ahead.

Mike Niehuser
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Roth MKM

Hi, guys. You can hear me okay?

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Mike, how are you doing?

Mike Niehuser
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Roth MKM

I'm good. Great. I hope you're well. Question for Mike. Could I get you to repeat about the new ball mill, when that's gonna be coming online? I think what I heard was maybe toward the end of fiscal 2023, so kind of the first full quarter or wrapping up would be in the first fiscal quarter of 2024. Is that right? Yeah. I can touch on that. It's towards the back end of the calendar year this year, Mike. You're right. You'd likely expect to see some benefit in the early part of next fiscal year. Correct.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah. We're dealing with calendar 2023, Mike.

Mike Niehuser
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Roth MKM

Oh.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

as opposed to fiscal 2023.

Mike Niehuser
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Roth MKM

Okay. Also you mentioned that the head grade was off in the quarter. I couldn't find that. Do you know what that was approximately?

Mike Leonard
CFO, TRX Gold

Yeah. I think, Andrew Cheatle, I don't know if you have that number handy. I think it was somewhere around just over 2 gram, but a little bit less than what we rolled up in Q1, Mike Niehuser.

Mike Niehuser
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Roth MKM

Mm-hmm.

Mike Leonard
CFO, TRX Gold

Andrew, maybe you can touch on the impact the wet season has on things like grade.

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

Yeah. Certainly, Mike. You know, the grade has been quite consistent. The variations are a little bit minor, but obviously when it's a wet season and we're dealing with the upper part of the deposit, we're in clays. As we've had to go deeper, to get the higher grade, we've had to also mine those sort of wet clays. It slows down the equipment, is the best way to describe it, guys, is. We know this. You know, we have to plan, and we have to be strong in all seasons. What we did, is access parts of the stockpile, which is deliberately there, for us to ensure that we have a consistent mill feed of 1,000 tons a day. The way I like to characterize it for those that fly is that the high grade is always fast-tracked in our mine. Then the medium grade is sort of in the economy class queue. So we just had to sort of put a bit more of that in for this quarter. Mike, and that's why you're sort of seeing the higher grades coming in now towards the end of this quarter. Mike, I think you also alluded that the last 2 quarters are stronger quarters in this fiscal year.

Mike Leonard
CFO, TRX Gold

Yeah. Mike, to specifically answer your question, the head grade that we rolled up in Q1 was 3.06 grams per ton, and then Q2 was 2.07. Quarter-over-quarter, that was part of the impact on the ounces produced. Yeah.

Mike Niehuser
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Roth MKM

Thank you. The drill program for either calendar or the rest of this fiscal year, can you give us an idea of what your goal is for the drilling, either holes or meters?

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

In terms of holes, Mike, what we're going to focus on is grade control drilling and a bit of sterilization. In terms of the diamond drilling, on the deposit, we will be focusing at the Eastern Porphyry and the Anfield Zone. The Anfield itself is a fairly early stage brownfield. Eastern Porphyry would now be an extension.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

I'm just gonna add.

Mike Niehuser
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Roth MKM

That's pretty exciting. Do you have an idea of the size of the program?

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

We're still working our way through that, Mike.

Mike Niehuser
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Roth MKM

Okay.

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

Yes. It obviously has to tie into-

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah. To give you a sense of why we're focusing on there is the top part of the main zone is really densely drilled. We know that those ounces can come into production really quick. And thus, we're focusing on the surface in Anfield and Eastern Porphyry for a reason, because we believe that those ounces may be able to come in fairly quickly too.

Andrew Cheatle
COO, TRX Gold

Yeah. Provide additional production flexibility.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah. The method to madness, as they like to say.

Mike Niehuser
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Roth MKM

No, no, no problem here. You're doing a lot of network and drilling and resource assessment. It almost seems like you're moving closer to your realizing your aspirational concept. I'm getting the feeling that you're basically moving from the oxide and really understanding the area in between that and the sulfides. I'm thinking This calendar year is gonna be a big year for really coming away with an understanding of the project's potential. Is that close?

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah. You're 100% right. That's exactly why all this work is being done. With regards to getting into what you say, transitional and harder material, some of that material has already gone through mills, mixed in with the oxides. As reported in the quarter, there has been no reduction in recovery rates, which is positive.

Mike Niehuser
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Roth MKM

Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's huge. Also, just lastly, just to comment, I think the comments you made about working with your buying locally, from a timing, from an investor point of view, from quality building relationships is an unrecognized value here. And, it doesn't happen overnight. Congratulations on all that, and thanks for taking my questions.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah. Thanks, Mike.

Mike Leonard
CFO, TRX Gold

Thank you very much, Mike.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Thanks. Bye.

Operator

I'd now like to hand the meeting over to Christina Lalli, Vice President, Investor Relations, who will take us through the questions submitted in writing.

Christina Lalli
VP of Investor Relations, TRX Gold

Thanks again, Gaylene. Gentlemen, I think there are a few questions along the same line of topic here from a few of our shareholders who'd like some more information on our joint venture and the status thereof with STAMICO, who obviously is a non-controlling interest in our financial statements. Can we speak a little bit to that relationship, and how basically that works out and how we see that in our financial statements?

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Good question. The non-controlling interest does show up in the income statement of the financial statements. With regards to the relationship with STAMICO and the government relationships, it's very strong. We have a good working relationship in Tanzania. We've built up a considerable amount of goodwill over the last two years through strong execution on the ground. That's both from the shareholders that are on the call today, as well as from all the local stakeholders that are in Tanzania. With regards to how net income is split, we don't split net income. It's split for accounting purposes. From a cash perspective, the operating cash flow is reinvested back into the business to continually expand the business. Also, as part of that agreement, we get capital repatriation back first.

Any capital that we spent at Buckreef gets to return to TRX first prior to any dividend splits in the future. Right now, the most of the income that's generated in cash flow is reinvested right back into the asset to grow it.

Christina Lalli
VP of Investor Relations, TRX Gold

Great. Thank you. A question from a shareholder wondering about the third mill expansion, if we are truly serious about the fact that our current cash flow will indeed pay for that third expansion, and if we expect there to be enough cash, basically.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

That's in the forecast. When we roll up a budget, there are expenditures for the third mill expansion. As we mentioned, it should come online at the end of calendar 2023. That is the expectation currently to be paid for out of cash flow from the business. There's also other ways, and I think this goes into more shareholder dilution question on paying for the expansion is. There's other forms of financing that are available for that. We can do more on a gold prepay, for instance. We can bring on some debt at the asset level, which we haven't done at this point in time. There's other ways to pay for that expansion if necessary.

Mike Leonard
CFO, TRX Gold

Yeah. I, and I'll just maybe add to that, Steven. The way we go about our budgeting is very, very conservative. We do build in contingency for, you know, for variances. Mining is a variable business, as we all know, so we certainly build in contingency. In terms of conservatism, we ran our budget at $1,650 an ounce, for example. We ran our half-year forecast at $1,700. Certainly some upside on things like gold price, but do have contingency for any unforeseen expenditures as they come up.

Christina Lalli
VP of Investor Relations, TRX Gold

Great. Thanks, gentlemen. Another question comes to us on the topic of possible M&A, or purchasing of new land or titles. Can we speak a bit to that subject?

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Look, on M&A, obviously, we have, you know, property right now in Tanzania. Buckreef property is a great property, and it requires a lot of our time. Would we look at M&A opportunities that may be accretive and utilize the skill set that we have? We're able to, you know, go in, turn around an asset very quickly, build an asset out very cheaply. If there's any complementary types of M&A opportunities out there that could utilize that type of skill set. Obviously we'd be doing shareholders a disservice of not looking at those type of opportunities that can be turned around. It would be very shareholder accretive very quickly.

Christina Lalli
VP of Investor Relations, TRX Gold

Okay, thank you, Steven.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah, we would look at M&A opportunities that complement our skill set.

Christina Lalli
VP of Investor Relations, TRX Gold

Great, thanks. I think lastly, for the moment, I'd like to remind again the callers, the people listening in, if they do have a question to ping us while we're here online. If for any reason you're having technical difficulties, you can indeed reach out to us again after the call to me directly, if you will. For the moment, the last question comes from a longtime shareholder. If we have any thoughts or can foresee in the future, paying a dividend?

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Yeah. I get asked this question on every quarterly call. Right now the asset is extremely capital intensive. As we continue to grow it, there is more benefit in re-investing the asset from a shareholder appreciation perspective is the increased metrics like EBITDA per share, net asset value per share, all of those type of metrics. In the foreseeable future, which is the short to medium term, I do not see the payment of a dividend at this point in time. I know that may be different than what was long-time shareholders may have been told, but that is the current business philosophy of growing value for the company.

Christina Lalli
VP of Investor Relations, TRX Gold

Wonderful.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

After that, once we get into a much larger project, all those options are on the table.

Christina Lalli
VP of Investor Relations, TRX Gold

Great. I don't see any questions remaining in the queue. On behalf of the TRX Gold team, I'd like to thank everybody for joining us today. We are always available to you, so please don't hesitate to reach out to us. I'd like to wish everybody a great day.

Operator

This concludes the meeting. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day.

Steven Mullowney
Director and CEO, TRX Gold

Thank you.

Mike Leonard
CFO, TRX Gold

Thank you.

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