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Earnings Call: Q4 2021

Mar 16, 2022

Operator

Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to TerrAscend's fourth quarter 2021 conference call for the three-month period ending December 31, 2021. Listeners are reminded that certain matters discussed in today's conference call or answers that may be given to questions asked could constitute forward-looking statements that are subject to the risks and uncertainties relating to TerrAscend's future financial or business performance. Actual results could differ materially from those anticipated in these forward-looking statements. The risk factors that may affect results are detailed in TerrAscend's Annual Information Form and other periodic filings and registration statements. These documents may be accessed via SEDAR database. I'd like to remind everyone that this call is being recorded today, Wednesday, March 16, 2022. I now would like to turn the conference over to Jason Wild, Executive Chairman. Please go ahead, sir.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Thank you. Good afternoon, everybody. Thank you for joining us today. I'm so proud of the hard work by the entire TerrAscend team in 2021, which has us well-positioned for the explosive growth we expect in 2022 and beyond. The huge strides we made at our Pennsylvania cultivation facility have resulted in the highest quality flower we have ever sold in this market, allowing us once again to recapture top- three market share in the state for the month of December 2021. We are eagerly awaiting adult use in New Jersey and are fully prepared to meet the tsunami of demand that we expect. Additionally, we completed our acquisition of Gage last week, which gives us a leadership position in yet another multi-billion-dollar market with the ability to extend their brands beyond Michigan.

Before I provide an update on each of the states in which we operate, I would like to welcome Ziad Ghanem, our newly appointed President and Chief Operating Officer. Ziad joins our team along with several other recent additions, including Charishma Kothari, SVP of Marketing, Charles Oster, SVP of Sales, and Jared Anderson, SVP of Finance and Strategy. I would also like to welcome our newest addition to the board of directors, Kara DioGuardi. It is a priority for TerrAscend to attract the diverse talent necessary to build this company for the future, and I think that all of these new team members exemplify our efforts on that front. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Ziad, who brings nearly two decades of experience in large-scale healthcare services, cannabis, pharmacy, and retail operations to TerrAscend, where he will manage and oversee all operations. Ziad.

Ziad Ghanem
President and COO, TerrAscend

Thank you, Jason, and good afternoon, everyone. It is a pleasure to be here today, participating in my first TerrAscend earnings call. I would like to briefly take a few minutes to introduce myself to everyone on the call and share what attracted me to the cannabis industry and to TerrAscend. As Jason mentioned, I'm a pharmacist by training, and my career has been centered on health and wellness, having spent nearly two decades at healthcare services companies, including large global drugstore chain Walgreens Boots Alliance, where I spent 17 years and built expertise in operations, strategy, and innovation. Most recently, I served as President of All Markets at Parallel, a multi-state cannabis operator in the U.S. My progression from pharmacy to the cannabis industry was natural. Throughout my career, I have witnessed firsthand patients, friends, and relatives struggle with the opioid epidemic that the nation faced.

I have interviewed, talked with, and assisted individuals from all walks of life who have struggled with depression, PTSD, insomnia, and so many other diseases. I have seen lawmakers, successful community and business leaders win their lives back by replacing up to five narcotic pills with safe cannabis product alternatives. When I looked at the cannabis industry, I also saw a new industry that is growing fast and that is highly regulated and complex, and became convinced that my experience in the first 20 years of my career will allow me to bring meaningful contribution to the industry throughout the entire value chain. I was drawn to the opportunity at TerrAscend for multiple reasons. Allow me to share the top three.

First, the portfolio of states where TerrAscend already has a presence all have attractive growth opportunities, which includes the impending adult use in New Jersey, and down the road, Pennsylvania and Maryland. This growth in the Northeast, coupled with the acquisition of Gage, a leader in Michigan, has the company well-positioned for growth and a leadership position in the cannabis industry for many years to come. Second, the strong balance sheet coupled with an open U.S. map for us to be selective with and continue targeted and calculated M&A opportunities. Finally, and as importantly, the backing of the JW Asset Management and the benefits that this will continue to bring TerrAscend both in the short and long term as we continue to grow. I spend time with Jason Wild daily, and I witness the benefits that he brings us with his team regularly as they constantly come across different opportunities.

I have very specific goals for the company that I divide into four main buckets. Those are team members, customers, financial performance, and growth. From a team member perspective, we will build a diverse and engaged workforce. With patients and customers, we will focus on how to serve them with best-in-class quality, customer service, and a competitive and diverse product portfolio. From a financial perspective, we will execute on a clear strategy with specific success metrics that will allow us to deliver strong financial performance for our shareholders. Lastly, with growth, we will continue to stay disciplined on our strategy and capital allocation. We will continue to grow organically in the attractive states in which we currently operate and enter new states through attractive M&A opportunities. I really look forward to meeting with everyone in the future. I will now turn the call back to Jason. Jason?

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Thanks, Ziad, and welcome again to TerrAscend. Before getting into our operational and financial results for the fourth quarter and full year of 2021, we are pleased to have just completed the acquisition of Gage. I believe they are amongst the best operators in the country with one of the best brands, and I am more excited than ever about this combination. Gage provides us entrance into Michigan, the third-largest U.S. market, estimated at over $2 billion in sales annually. Equally important is the unlimited license structure with no caps in Michigan, which is very beneficial to the larger operators in the state and gives us the opportunity to expand our footprint quickly given our scale and resources versus our competitors. Gage's facilities are amongst the best I have seen, not only in Michigan, but anywhere.

Their attention to detail and pristine operations falls very much in line with us culturally. This acquisition will provide TerrAscend with access to Gage's sought-after brand and proprietary library of genetics, as well as Gage's exclusive licensing partnerships in Michigan with Cookies, Laying Worldwide, Blue River, Pure Beauty, and Khalifa Kush. Our combined company now operates 7 cultivation facilities, including three in Michigan, in addition to Gage's nine contract grows. Additionally, we now operate a retail network expected to reach over 40 stores by the end of this year. This includes 25 currently open dispensaries across five states and Canada, with Gage operating 11 dispensaries in Michigan and one Cookies-branded dispensary recently opened in Toronto, in addition to TerrAscend's 13-store footprint in key markets, including California, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania.

For the year ended 2021, Gage delivered unaudited record revenue of nearly $100 million, with gross margins continuing to improve sequentially from 26% in Q1 to 34% in Q2 to 37% in Q3 and 46% in Q4. This significant expansion into Q4 was primarily driven by the introduction of Gage-branded vapes, as well as a higher mix of Gage-grown flower relative to contract-grown and third-party flower. This impressive sequential gross margin expansion led to an inflection in adjusted EBITDA from negative in Q3 to slightly positive in Q4, which is expected to continue to expand in the coming year, driven by the continued gross margin improvements that I mentioned, along with operating expense leverage and other synergies as part of the combination. Gage's financial position is healthy, with $45 million in cash and equivalents at year-end 2021.

This strong balance sheet, combined with ours, positions TerrAscend with the financial flexibility to execute on our growth plans. Integration is well underway, and we look forward to updating everyone as we continue to make progress in Michigan. I would like to now discuss the substantial progress we made across each of our states over the course of the year. Starting in PA, I am pleased with the significant improvements we made at our cultivation facility and our recovery in market share. The upgrade to our facility is complete, and we are seeing significantly improved quality. I know that we disclosed on our Q3 call that we were already producing the highest quality flower we have ever produced at that facility, and I am proud to say that this improvement has continued throughout Q4 and all through Q1.

This higher quality product is resonating with patients as well, both within our six operating dispensaries and across the state footprint at wholesale. As a result, we have captured top- three market share in the state for the month of December 2021, increasing over 400 basis points from November. Not only have we successfully reactivated more than 50 dormant doors during the fourth quarter, but order replenishment from those doors has also been strong, indicating robust sell-through. The quality and potency of our product is what is driving this momentum as our top flower SKUs have been recently re-ranked among the top three highest potency flower SKUs in any dispensary, on any dispensary, menu.

While we maintain our high quality of our current strains and genetics portfolio, we are also very excited to be on the verge of introducing new genetics to the PA market following the open genetics window in December of 2021. We will go from having some of the oldest genetics in the state to having the newest and in our view, the most desirable, diverse, and proprietary genetics in the Pennsylvania program. The first of these new high-quality strains is being harvested as we speak, and is expected to be available for sale in early Q2, with more strains to come soon after. The fact that we have regained a significant level of market share prior to the launch of these new strains has our Pennsylvania team very excited about the potential for further market share gains in the coming months.

Overall, the market in Pennsylvania remains competitive, with patient growth flattish and the number of dispensaries nearing the state limits. Patients are getting more sophisticated in this market and in every market across the country, and they're demanding increasingly higher quality products. We think that our focus on quality will be a key driver of our increased market share going forward. We believe that this is a marathon, not a sprint. In the end, we are heartened that the best products win. I am thrilled with the decision we made last July to reset our cultivation facility. While it was not easy to sacrifice significant short-term revenue to ensure our long-term quality, in retrospect, this decision was a no-brainer.

We believe it has given us a leg up versus the competition in this increasingly sophisticated market, and wait until patients see the new genetics we're launching over the next few months. We will first be launching what we consider our best-in-class genetics from our New Jersey facility, followed by Gage and other exclusive genetics in the coming months. Our winning formula is now in place in a still very vibrant market with adult use on the horizon. Turning next to New Jersey. As everyone knows, this is an important market for us with transformative growth potential as we eagerly await adult use. I want to emphasize that we are in a very strong position for when that day arrives. Today, TerrAscend has one of the largest approved cultivation capacities in the state, which gives us a significant advantage over all new competition.

For new market entrants, the canopy limits are 30,000 sq ft, while our license has a 150,000 sq ft limit. Also worth noting is that all of the new licensees cannot sell into the adult use market until after they have sold into the medical market for a full year. That applies to both cultivators and dispensaries. Given our optimism for this market, we are on the verge of signing a lease at a new location for a planned expansion of our cultivation capacity beyond our current canopy size, which will enable us to expand to the 150,000 sq ft limit over time. The build-out will commence immediately, and we will bring on additional capacity in a measured way to ensure that we maintain the high quality that our products have become known for in New Jersey.

A greater capacity will enable us to meet the expected demand from what is estimated to be a $2.5 billion adult-use market. We expect to share more details once we finalize the signing of the lease in the coming months, in the coming days, actually. Looking at the retail landscape in New Jersey, there are 36 total issued and approved retail licenses that qualify for the first round of near-term adult-use sales. Our three dispensaries are strategically located in attractive northern New Jersey locations in Maplewood, Phillipsburg, and Lodi. As we have previously discussed, we anticipate we can generate in excess of $40 million in revenue annually from each of these locations in a post-adult-use market. As you can see, the opportunity is immense.

We will continue to bring innovation to the New Jersey market and broaden our product portfolio for patients and consumers. One example is the progress we have made towards the launch of concentrates manufactured through the process of hydrocarbon extraction. This anticipated launch will be significant and will expand our product offering in the state. Concentrates typically represent 10%-20% of sales in other markets and are not currently available in New Jersey. We look forward to getting approval to introduce this new product category in the coming weeks and intend on being first to market. Another example is our exclusive agreement with Cookies, one of the most recognized cannabis brands in the world. While the regulatory process is still underway, we are making progress every day in preparation for an expected spring launch.

We are planning our first harvest in early April and cannot wait for New Jersey residents to set eyes on this amazing flower. Additionally, we will introduce Cookies Corners, a store-within-a-store concept exclusively in each of our three retail dispensaries in the state, subject to regulatory approval. Gage's experience in Michigan demonstrates that consumers are willing to drive several hours in order to access Cookies branded products. Consistent with Michigan, we believe this will result in the highest average basket sizes in the state. In summation, we anticipate a dramatic increase in demand once adult use goes into effect, and we are ready for it with the necessary applications, approvals, inventory, staffing, and adult use packaging. Our large-scale cultivation footprint and exclusive dispensaries in three key locations positions us well to deliver massive growth.

The Maryland market is our next significant growth lever, and is a $600 million market currently with a population of roughly 6 million people. With the potential for adult use to be on the ballot in the November midterms, we believe that Maryland should turn to adult use in the second half of next year. Maryland is a perfect example of an eat-while-you-dream state, where we are profitable under medical program, and once adult use kicks in, we will experience significant growth beyond our current sales set. Since the closing of our HMS acquisition in 2021, we have made significant progress in expanding our wholesale distribution points in Maryland, which now totals 60% of the market, up from 25% at the time of the acquisition.

We are pleased to have been awarded Maryland's Best Grower by The MJ Connect, and I am proud of how quickly we have been able to turn this facility into an award-winning operation. It is a testament to our passionate team, their operational expertise, and deep understanding of what is required to produce high-quality products. While we are currently selling everything we produce at our facility in Maryland, the build-out of our recently purchased warehouse in Hagerstown is well underway. This will expand our cultivation footprint as well as broaden our portfolio of form factors and increase our capacity to make manufactured products. We expect to complete and operationalize the extraction lab in the second quarter of this year, and cultivation in the third quarter. This significant expansion will be operational and dialed in in time to fully capitalize on the expected adult use implementation.

Vertical integration is also a key part of our growth strategy for this market. We have been actively focused on the potential acquisition of dispensaries in Maryland and look forward to reporting progress on that front in the coming months. Turning to California, our super premium State Flower brand has continued to perform well in the face of an oversupplied flower market, which has enabled us to continue to sell out our total capacity at consistent pricing levels. On the retail side, our five Apothecarium dispensaries have remained stable during COVID, while we look forward to a pickup in foot traffic in San Francisco as we move into the spring and summer months, with tourism and work commuting hopefully normalizing. As I mentioned last quarter, being a multi-channel retailer is the next step in the evolution of serving our customers' needs wherever and however they wanna shop.

To do so, we are pioneering the leveraging of technology to meet the needs of our customers. Just this week, we launched the Apothecarium mobile retail app for Apple iOS devices, available for download in New Jersey and California. Our proprietary app allows customers to instantly connect with Apothecarium dispensaries while providing more choice and convenience in a personalized digital environment. This launch rounds out our multi-channel offering, with the app seamlessly integrating into our existing retail and web-based e-commerce experiences. In Canada, we continue to navigate challenging market dynamics while managing to modestly grow full-year sales and adjusted EBITDA, with plans to continue to do so in 2022. We are also now the exclusive Cookies retail partner in Canada through our acquisition of Gage and are excited to see the recently opened Toronto store continue to ramp.

In closing, 2022 is expected to be a breakout year for TerrAscend. We have added one of the best operators and brands in the third largest market in the U.S. with the closing of our Gage acquisition. The state of New Jersey will turn adult use in the coming weeks. We will exclusively introduce Cookies into that market, and we will see further benefits from our vastly improved quality in Pennsylvania and our expansion in Maryland. Importantly, we have a solid financial position that will enable us to continue to support our growth initiatives, both organic and inorganic. We are building this business for success over the long term, and we will continue to make decisions with that mindset. I would now like to turn the call over to Keith to provide a financial update.

Keith Stauffer
CFO, TerrAscend

Thanks, Jason, good afternoon, everyone. As a reminder, the results I'll be going over today can be found on EDGAR and SEDAR. All figures discussed and reported are in US dollars. Additionally, this is the first quarter that we are reporting under US GAAP. Our year-end 2021 filing is a Form 10-K with the SEC. The company is now prepared to list on a US stock exchange once permissible. Net sales for the full year 2021 totaled $210.4 million as compared to $147.8 million in 2020, an increase of 42%. A little less than half of this growth was driven by our initial year in the New Jersey medical market.

About 40% of the overall growth was driven by retail in Pennsylvania, partially driven by our acquisition of KCR in May 2021, and partially driven by organic growth from a full year of operations at our three existing Apothecarium dispensaries. The remainder of the growth was driven by a combination of our late 2020 expansion of State Flower cultivation in California and our entry into Maryland through the acquisition of HMS Health in May 2021. Net sales for the fourth quarter of 2021 totaled $49.2 million as compared to $49.6 million for the fourth quarter of 2020 and $49.1 million for the third quarter of 2021.

Regarding sales by channel, wholesale revenue for the year was $123 million versus $103 million in 2020, an increase of 20%, driven mainly by the initial ramp-up of our New Jersey medical business and by the acquisition of HMS Health in Maryland. Retail revenue for the year was $87 million compared to $45 million in 2020, an increase of 95%, driven by a combination of a full year of business at our three Apothecarium dispensaries in PA, the acquisition of KCR in PA, and the opening of our first two New Jersey dispensaries in Phillipsburg in late 2020 and Maplewood in May 2021.

Wholesale for the fourth quarter of 2021 totaled $24.4 million, representing flat sequential sales and a 28% decline year-over-year, driven by a decline in Pennsylvania, offset by growth in New Jersey, Maryland, and California. Retail sales for the fourth quarter of 2021 totaled $24.8 million, flat sequentially and up 55% year-over-year. The year-over-year growth in Q4 was driven by the acquisition of KCR and growth at our two New Jersey dispensaries. Gross margin for the full year of 2021 was 53.3% as compared to 54.8% in 2020. Adjusted gross margin for the full year of 2021 was 56.1% compared to 57.2% in 2020.

A contraction of 110 basis points year-over-year, driven by second half under absorption in PA related to our reset activities at that facility. Note that adjusted gross margin is a non-GAAP measure. Please refer to our filing for the definition of non-GAAP measures. Gross margin for the fourth quarter of 2021 was 42.3% as compared to 43.8% in Q3 of 2021. This sequential contraction is related to one-time non-cash write-downs of inventory in Canada and a step-up in fair value of inventory related to our acquisition of HMS Health in Maryland. Adjusted gross margin for the fourth quarter of 2021, excluding these one-time items, was 49.8% as compared to 46.2% for the third quarter. This 360 basis point improvement sequentially was mainly driven by improvements in PA

For full year 2021, G&A expenses excluding stock-based compensation improved to 31.4% of revenue versus 37.6% of revenue in 2020. G&A excluding stock-based compensation was $66 million in 2021 compared to $55.5 million in 2020, driven by increased personnel expenses to support the growth of the business and legal expenses primarily related to acquisitions and settlements. Note that lease expense is now part of SG&A under US GAAP across all periods, rather than previously being reported as finance expense under IFRS. Lease expense for 2021 was $4 and a half million, and for 2020 was $3.8 million, representing around 2% of revenue and among the lowest of the peer group, as we have not utilized sale lease backs as a source of capital.

G&A excluding stock-based compensation for the fourth quarter of 2021 was $17.0 million, as compared to $16.1 million for the third quarter of 2021, with the increase primarily related to an increase in professional fees for the U.S. filer and GAAP conversion work that was completed. Full-year 2021 adjusted EBITDA was $65.6 million, or $70.1 million excluding lease expense, versus $41.7 million or $45.5 million excluding lease expense in 2020, representing a 57% growth year-over-year, including lease expense.

2021 adjusted EBITDA margin was 31.2% versus 28.2% in 2020, representing a 300 basis point margin expansion year-over-year. About three-quarters of the adjusted EBITDA growth was driven by the ramp-up of our New Jersey business in the existing medical market, while the remainder was driven by a combination of the acquisition of HMS in Maryland and profitability improvements year-over-year in both California and Canada. Q4 adjusted EBITDA was $11.9 million, representing a 24.2% adjusted EBITDA margin versus $9.0 million and an 18.3% margin in Q3. The sequential improvement in adjusted EBITDA was primarily driven by growth in New Jersey and improvement in Pennsylvania.

For reference, Q4 adjusted EBITDA excluding lease expense was $12.8 million, as compared to $10.5 million for the third quarter of 2021. Those are IFRS numbers. Operating income for the full year 2021 totaled $23.5 million, as compared to $9.6 million in 2020, representing an increase of 145% year-over-year. The increase was primarily driven by the scale-up of the New Jersey business and the acquisitions of HMS in Maryland and KCR in PA. Fourth quarter operating income was $0.3 million, as compared to a loss of $1.8 million in the third quarter. The improvement quarter-over-quarter was due to gross margin expansion and a reduction in share-based compensation expense.

Net income for the full year 2021 was a positive $6.1 million, mainly related to a non-cash $58 million gain on fair value of warrant liability, compared with a net loss of $142 million in 2020, which was also impacted by a non-cash loss on fair value of warrant liability of $110 million. Net loss in the fourth quarter of 2021 was $5.9 million, mainly driven by a one-time loss of $3.3 million from the termination of our lease in Frederick, Maryland, $6.9 million of finance and other expenses, $6.9 million of accrued income taxes, and $2 million of transaction costs, mostly related to the Gage acquisition. These expenses were partially offset by a $14.4 million gain on fair value of warrant liability.

Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the year with a healthy cash and cash equivalents balance of about $80 million. This healthy cash position will enable us to continue to invest in the business, both organically and through M&A. In Q4, we used $3.8 million in cash from operations, mainly driven by an increase in working capital as we continue to prepare for adult use in New Jersey. For the full year, we used $32 million in cash from operations, $24 million related to working capital increase in preparation for New Jersey adult use mainly, with the remainder being related to a contingent consideration payment mostly related to our final earn- out earlier last year for Ilera.

We received just over $15 million in proceeds from warrants and options during the quarter, included in our year-end cash balance of $80 million, mostly related to the warrants that were set to expire in mid-January of 2022. We later received the remainder of the proceeds of about $25 million from those warrants in early January for a total of approximately $40 million of proceeds from those warrants. During the fourth quarter, we made the second of two $25 million payments to our New Jersey partners related to the increase of our ownership from 75% to 87.5%. We also paid $2.3 million of a note related to the KCR acquisition and paid $3.3 million to terminate our Frederick, our lease in Frederick, Maryland, as we prepare to transition to our facility in Hagerstown.

Finally, CapEx spending during the quarter was $11.8 million, mostly related to the completion of our build-out in PA, ongoing work at our Hagerstown, Maryland facility, and the completion of our third New Jersey dispensary in Lodi. CapEx spending for the full year was $38.5 million, about half of which was related to our expansion in PA, with the remainder related to our build-out of New Jersey and the acquisition of the Hagerstown facility. This concludes our prepared remarks. I'd now like to turn the call over to the operator to open it up for questions.

Operator

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your touchtone phone. You will then hear a three-tone prompt acknowledging your request. If you would like to remove yourself from the question queue, you will need to press star followed by two. In consideration of other callers on the line today, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Please go ahead and press star one now if you have a question. Your first question will be from Owen Bennett at Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Owen Bennett
Equity Research Analyst, Jefferies

Evening, guys. Hope all is well. Yeah, first question just relates to Michigan and Gage. Obviously, deal's closed now. You've had some months to really get to know that business even more. I was just wondering what areas you've really identified as possible upside there. You've mentioned expansion plans, maybe touch on that a bit more. But any other areas of the business you think there's some easy wins for upside in the near term? Thank you.

Keith Stauffer
CFO, TerrAscend

Sure. Ziad, would you like to take that one? You were just out in-

Ziad Ghanem
President and COO, TerrAscend

Yes.

Keith Stauffer
CFO, TerrAscend

Michigan last week.

Ziad Ghanem
President and COO, TerrAscend

Yes. Yes, I would love to. Hi, Owen. Thanks for the question. We have been working with our partners in Gage over the last few months, and we are extremely excited on multiple fronts. First, from the leadership perspective and the expertise that they have developed in the state of Michigan, we will get better in every state because of the expertise that they have in Michigan, but we will also bring some of the learning from other states. Combined together, we'll bring synergy from the scars and from the learning of the past, and we will make each other better from an execution perspective, from a cultivation perspective, and from an efficiency perspective.

What I am personally excited the most with the Gage acquisition is how well the team has been able to build the brand, the Gage brand. It is really, I believe, the best-in-class brand, and who agrees with me are the customers and the patients in Michigan. When you look at the pricing pressure in Michigan, Owen, you will be stunned to see how well the Gage strain, the Gage brand, and the Gage performers have done against that pressure. All those are reasons why I'm extremely excited to expand our family and add Michigan to the team.

Owen Bennett
Equity Research Analyst, Jefferies

Great. Thank you. Very helpful. Just one follow-up, please. Just an interesting development with the mobile app. I was just wondering in terms of kind of how sort of influential do you think that could be for in terms of driving footfall to the store, and what sort of additional ways are you gonna be able to use that in terms of key data around customers and certain trends, et cetera?

Ziad Ghanem
President and COO, TerrAscend

Sure. Owen, I'll take this one. From a consumer analytics perspective, this will be by far the biggest advantage to us when it comes to digital presence. The patients and the customers will be able to reach us where they want us and when they want us, and they will be able to stay closer to our budtenders and our dispensaries at all times. With price being sensitive in a lot of areas, the digital presence will allow us to look at our segmentations of customers and patients in a different way, in an intelligent way, and in a way that we can target different segments based on what brings the most value to that segment.

Instead of going with a blanket discount, instead of going with an uncalculated price change, we will be able to target the behavior of the consumers and deliver to them value with a high-quality product.

Owen Bennett
Equity Research Analyst, Jefferies

Awesome. Thanks, guys. Very helpful. I'll pass it on.

Ziad Ghanem
President and COO, TerrAscend

Thanks, Owen.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Thank you, Owen.

Operator

Next question will be from Kenric Tyghe at ATB Capital. Please go ahead.

Kenric Tyghe
Managing Director of Equity Research, ATB Capital Markets

Thank you and good evening. Jason, question for you. Very encouraging comments on New Jersey. I think what I'm trying to sort of better handicap is that as well as your position, how do we think about the timing of that ramp and how quickly that can ramp? I mean, we all recognize that, New Jersey is a back half story, but I think where, you know, the Street is struggling to sort of get a better read is there's a wide range of commentary out of management teams on how material a contribution, given their footprint, they expect to see in Q2 and/ or the ramp into Q3. If you could help us better handicap, that would be great.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Sure. It's funny, I mean, I sort of, I remember somebody asked me about this a few weeks ago, and I said I've stopped trying to predict when New Jersey is gonna turn on adult use. Maybe I'm going against my own sort of views here, but I'll give you. I'll take a stab at what we think should happen. There's a CRC meeting on March 24, 2021. We are hopeful that at that point they will approve several of the operators that they believe are ready for adult use, which means that they have more than enough supply to also supply their medical patients.

We think that we will be one of the first approved licensees based upon that criteria. What will happen if they approve those licensees on the 24th is they will also declare, you know, or give 30 days' notice, and adult use would kick in roughly 30 days after that. In terms of the way if that happens, sales will ramp, we believe that it will not necessarily wait until actual adult use kicks in, say towards the end of April, because there will be many dispensaries that are looking to stock up ahead of what they see as a huge level of demand or a huge increase in demand.

We currently have a compliant adult use packaging, and if we get the go- ahead and the approval on March 24, 2021. We will be ready to supply our wholesale customers pretty much immediately. Once April— you know assuming that happens on the 24th and actual adult use sales start about 30 days later in April, that's when we will see the substantial increase in our dispensary sales. Yeah.

Kenric Tyghe
Managing Director of Equity Research, ATB Capital Markets

Great. Thank you, Jason.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Yeah. I mean, that's. I've been burned a few times in terms of trying to predict when it's gonna kick in, but we are hopeful from what we have been hearing and from what others have been hearing that there's a good chance that that could happen on March 24, 2021.

Kenric Tyghe
Managing Director of Equity Research, ATB Capital Markets

No, thanks, Jason. It allows us to just better triangulate and handicap it relative to your footprint. Quick follow-up on New Jersey. Can you give us any insight on the relative sophistication? You've spoken to sort of increasing sophistication in Pennsylvania, you know, obviously, you know, a different market at different points in its evolution, but any insight you can provide on the sophistication or absolute or relative of the New Jersey cannabis consumer?

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

I think they're similarly sophisticated. We, you know, while even in Pennsylvania the market is sophisticated, we should also remember that there are not a whole lot of dosage forms or form factors allowable in Pennsylvania. There's, you know, there's no edibles, and many of the other form factors that are available in many of the other states are not allowable in Pennsylvania. When we say sophistication, we're really sort of gearing those thoughts more towards sophistication and expectations on flower quality. What I would say as we compare that to New Jersey is it's similar, but we came out of the gate producing some of the, you know, some of the best flower available in New Jersey.

We've only dialed that in over the last year and change that we've had our indoor facility up and running. I would say that it's not sort of a game of catch up like we felt like we were playing a little bit in Pennsylvania. It's actually part of the reason that really drove us to make the changes that we did make in Pennsylvania last summer was because once I was spending a lot of time in our Jersey facility, I saw how great it was, and I saw how much better we could be everywhere that we operated. You know, I feel like as it pertains to Jersey, we're on the leading edge in terms of quality.

From a genetics point of view, we have probably the most diverse line of genetics in the whole state already.

Kenric Tyghe
Managing Director of Equity Research, ATB Capital Markets

Yeah. Thanks, Jason. Good luck. I'll get back in queue.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Yeah. Ziad, did you want to add to that?

Ziad Ghanem
President and COO, TerrAscend

Yeah, no, Derek, I just wanted to give you my fresh take on New Jersey. I joined the company and spent a lot of time in New Jersey, and I couldn't be more excited about what the team has done to be prepared and to be ready from all fronts. The team is in place. They're well trained, they're well educated, and I think that will bring sophistication to the consumer. The stores are great looking and great position, and they will have the visibility by the consumers, and they are anchored by powerful brands and partnerships that will come soon to the states, starting with Cookies and other strains that we mentioned and brands we mentioned earlier with Gage, et cetera. Those stores with those anchors will also bring sophistication to the consumers.

With the education, with the stores, you'll have a robust product roadmap that our marketing team is thinking about nonstop, in order to also help with that sophistication. I am extremely excited about New Jersey and cannot wait to start.

Kenric Tyghe
Managing Director of Equity Research, ATB Capital Markets

Thanks, Ziad, for the color. I'll get back in queue.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Sure thing.

Operator

Next question will be from Andrew Partheniou at Stifel GMP. Please go ahead.

Andrew Partheniou
Equity Research Analyst, Stifel GMP

Hi, good evening. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the great rebound here. Maybe just start off with M&A. How do you see the New York rec market? You know, regulators there want to kickstart the rec market potentially this year through social equity and hemp operators. Do you think that there's an opportunity to maybe enter the market through a hemp operator at maybe a reduced valuation versus acquiring a vertical existing medical operator license? Just your thoughts around New York in general.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Sure. Hi, Andrew. Yeah, the answer is yes. When the news came out several weeks ago about the hemp operators being able to help kickstart the program, we were extremely excited, and you should assume that we have been, you know, essentially combing the phone books or the Yellow pages, you know, so to speak, for the last several weeks and meeting with and speaking to as many hemp operators that we can. So we think there is a real possibility to enter the New York market in that way.

It's made us sort of very happy that we waited and were patient and did not enter the New York market and have to sustain the substantial losses that the other operators have had to sustain over the last few years to make it to the finish line. We think that we are going to be able to enter the New York market in one way or another over the next couple of years.

Andrew Partheniou
Equity Research Analyst, Stifel GMP

Thanks for that. Maybe just M&A in general. You know, you previously talked about some attractive valuations in states where most other large operators have already reached their caps. Just wondering, you know, right now, obviously the markets have been challenging. You know, what are you seeing? Do you still see opportunities to maybe enter new states or vertically integrate in Maryland, for example? Just your thoughts around that.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Sure. Yes. We see the opportunity to go deeper where we are in places like Maryland. There's a four dispensary cap. We currently own zero dispensaries. Their expectations are very reasonable, you know, in terms of what the sellers would like to be paid. So we think that we should be able to indicate our progress on that front over the coming months. In terms of Michigan, that's another area where since there's no license caps, we think that we should be able to get some extremely attractive dispensary acquisitions done over the course of this year. The great thing about Michigan is that since it's an unlimited license state, there are many what we would call mom-and-pop operators.

This business has been a whole lot harder than they expected it would be, especially because they're not vertically integrated. So the multiples, the expectation of multiples in Michigan is, you know, a fraction of what it is in other markets. And when we look, you know, we always run these models, and we, you know, sort of run the DCFs and the MGV on what it's worth to the seller and what it's worth to us. And when we look at what these assets are worth to us, they're worth even more than they are to the sellers because Gage has not supplied their products to other dispensaries in Michigan up until this point.

If we go in and we can get some very attractive dispensary acquisitions done, we will also the multiple will be even lower than whatever that headline multiple is because we will be supplying those stores with Gage and Cookies products and be making you know, a nice profit on the wholesale side as well. That's examples of going deeper in the places where we are. As it pertains to entering new states, we definitely would like to enter at least one or two new states over the next six to 12 months. We have multiple conversations going on in multiple states. I would say that valuation expectations have continued to slide with the valuations of the public companies.

When we're looking at deals, they're actually no more, even though our stock price is lower than it was, you know, six months ago, the deals are actually not any more dilutive than they were six months ago because, you know, the targets have gone down as well. I mean, we're thrilled that we do not have a very large footprint, that we're, you know, very deep in a limited number of states because it gives us the opportunity to go in and buy very, very accretive assets in additional states.

Andrew Partheniou
Equity Research Analyst, Stifel GMP

Appreciate the detailed answer. I'll get back in the queue.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Thanks. Thanks, Andrew.

Operator

Next question will be from Eric Des Lauriers at Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead.

Eric Des Lauriers
Senior Research Analyst, Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Great. Thanks for taking my questions. Ziad, you mentioned that Gage's pricing is holding up particularly well in Michigan, where of course we've seen some of these pricing pressures. In previous quarters, Gage had sort of commented on their average wholesale prices or at least their average premium. Just wondering if you had that data available for us today.

Ziad Ghanem
President and COO, TerrAscend

Yeah. Thanks for the question, Eric. I don't have the details to share right now, but directionally, I can tell you that there has not been any change on the pricing for Gage wholesale. The demand is still high. The numbers I looked at were line to where the prices have been, but we'll continue to work and learn more on how the behavior of the product is, but we're very confident that it has resisted those changes very well.

Eric Des Lauriers
Senior Research Analyst, Craig-Hallum Capital Group

All right. That's great to hear. As my follow-up here, it seems like the playbook in Michigan is to really reserve, you know, Cookies and other sort of premium branded products for, you know, Gage's own retail channels and then wholesale sort of the non-premium or mid-tier brands. I guess first, is that sort of the right way to think about the strategy in Michigan? Second, if so, should we expect that same strategy in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Maryland? Thank you.

Ziad Ghanem
President and COO, TerrAscend

Yeah, Eric, the strategy that we are convinced that has worked for us and will continue to work, and we have plenty of example. Michigan is one, specialty and quality flowers with our State Flower is another one. The rebound that we have seen in Pennsylvania by doing a very daring move a couple of quarters ago to take the loss we took in the short term to get where we are today really confirms our thinking and our strategy. As the patients and the customers become more sophisticated, they will continue to raise their expectations as to what they would like to get from the product and from the flower.

We are convinced the more sophisticated we can be and advance with the patient, the better off we will be, whether it's with our own brand and strains or whether through strong partnerships like Cookies and others.

Operator

Thank you. Did that answer your question, sir?

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Yeah. I think we lost him.

Operator

Okay. Next question will be from Glenn Mattson at Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go ahead.

Glenn Mattson
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Hi. Yeah. Thanks for taking the questions. So just curious if we get a little more detailed guidance on how to think about Gage over the course of 2022. I know going from 2020, just kind of the pace of the rollout there, and then the margins that you pointed to in Q4, you know, the extent to which those are sustainable throughout the year or whether you expect them to continue to gain as the year progresses. Just some color there would be great.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Ziad, do you want to take that one?

Ziad Ghanem
President and COO, TerrAscend

Yeah, I'll make some comments. Keith, I know you've been digging more. Anything you'd like to share before I start?

Keith Stauffer
CFO, TerrAscend

Sure. Hey, Glenn. I guess I'll try the whole thing, and then you can add in, Ziad. I think-

Ziad Ghanem
President and COO, TerrAscend

Sure.

Keith Stauffer
CFO, TerrAscend

If you look at the pace of rollout, just to kind of reiterate the game plan that the Gage team's been executing on here, they have their arms, I'd say, well around the pipeline of retail dispensary openings over the coming few quarters. You can expect a ramp-up there in retail from the 12 existing stores up to and over a 20 count by the end of the year and above that. That'll happen driving the top line and then very shortly they'll be opening their extraction lab, which has been a long-awaited process just given some of the supply chain challenges.

Finally it's going to happen here soon in the coming weeks, and that's really going to give them a big lift on the gross margin line. By the way, the big lift that Jason mentioned on the call from Q3 to Q4 into the mid-forties was driven even before the extraction lab opened, and that was driven by the Gage-branded vape introduction in September-October. There's like a series of margin-driving initiatives that will continue to kind of fuel the climb in gross margin and EBITDA profitability as we go through, as Gage goes through this year.

Last but not least, later in the year or in the next handful of months or so, the Monitor 2 cultivation expansion will happen. That'll give them the ability to bring more growing in-house, capture that margin and create some more and just rely less upon the contract grow agreements and balance that out. Yeah. Ziad, anything to add there?

Ziad Ghanem
President and COO, TerrAscend

Yeah, I think you described it well. If I can sum it up real quick, Glenn. When I look through the entire supply chain from cultivation, or the value chain from cultivation to production to supply chain and to retail, there are multiple opportunities here that will play the tailwind for the margin. From a cultivation, the team will be opening a best-in-class, state-of-the-art facility, like Jason described earlier. From a production perspective, we have a great example of the Gage own brand vape that recently has launched and what it has done to the gross margin. The lab will be completed here in the next few weeks or so. We'll start producing more in-house product that will do the same thing that the vape has done.

In the retail store, from a pricing perspective, you think of COGS and you think of pricing. I think the advantage is all there, and it will be all tailwind for the margin.

Glenn Mattson
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Okay, great. Thanks for that color there. One quick one on PA, you know, with the

Ziad Ghanem
President and COO, TerrAscend

Mm-hmm.

Glenn Mattson
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Like you said, patients staying flattish and the, you know, potential competition from New Jersey and some cultivation come online. You know, we saw what a tough year it was in 2021. Just kind of thoughts about, you know, your ability to sustain that top three position more based high quality. You know, just, you know, what you would think about in terms of if pricing started to get worse, if you're willing to, you know, follow that down or hold firm or just the thoughts on that market a little more in-depth. Thanks.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Ziad, do you want to take that or you want me?

Ziad Ghanem
President and COO, TerrAscend

Yeah, I'd love to.

Yeah.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Go for it.

Ziad Ghanem
President and COO, TerrAscend

I'll start, Jason, and then you can.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Sure.

Ziad Ghanem
President and COO, TerrAscend

If I had to describe what I came in and what I saw in Pennsylvania. The Pennsylvania story has been a great story for us. It started super painful, and it turned out as a no-brainer like Jason has described. We made a very hard decision to do what we did when we killed the plan that we killed in order to restart and accomplish the goals that we wanted to accomplish. Since we've seen quality improve every month and still the best quality is ahead of us. We've seen that we've been able to protect pricing from a wholesale perspective, and the data does not lie. The consumer and the patients are asking for it, and we have entered in more doors and have set some record penetration rates from a wholesale perspective.

The flower portfolio, we have the highest percentage of flowers, of flower testing as the highest THC average we've ever seen, and we think that the better numbers are still in front of us. Due to all the cleanup, and construction, and expansion that we've done, the facility is that much more efficient, again, making us more efficient on the cost of goods side, and that is helping. We're seeing and hearing from patients describing, and tweeting, and bragging about the flower they are buying, and we are seeing a switch and increase in our own brand utilization, not only through wholesale, but also in our own store. All this has caused us so far to not see any change in our pricing when it comes to wholesale pricing.

From a retail perspective, the environment, the external environment that we cannot control, we face it the same way all our competitors, the way our competitors do. What we can control and what we are laser focused on is all the levers we can pull under all the revenue drivers, the gross margin drivers, and the OpEx drivers. Just to give you a few examples. From the revenue drivers, the team is laser focused on patient acquisitions, patient retention, and basket size drivers through segmentation that we talked about, through our digital platform, new launches, new brands, ability to connect with the patient, and outreach programs. From a gross margin, we talked about the pricing, we talked about the cost of goods.

From an operations perspective, really staying ahead of the trend and making sure our labor model stays in line with our revenue, while our customer service and our products serve the patients. Jason, anything else you want to add?

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Yeah. The only thing I would add is, like, as I said earlier, we've made all of this progress in the absence of the new genetics that are about to launch in the coming weeks. So that will. We believe that will be another differentiator for us and make it so that we can continue to hold price because, you know, we're delivering, essentially we're delivering more value than we ever have at the same price.

Glenn Mattson
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Right. Okay. Thanks for the color, guys. Appreciate it.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Thank you.

Operator

Next question will be from Noel Atkinson at Clarus Securities. Please go ahead.

Noel Atkinson
VP and Research Analyst, Clarus Securities

Hi. Good evening, folks. Well done in Q4, and welcome, Ziad. First off, can you provide any update on the timeline to opening your Lodi store?

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Yeah, sure.

Ziad Ghanem
President and COO, TerrAscend

Yeah, I know.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Noel, Ziad, why don't you take that one? I know you've been deeply involved with the New Jersey DOT.

Ziad Ghanem
President and COO, TerrAscend

Yeah, Noel, thanks for the welcome. From a Lodi store perspective, to open a store, you need a CRC approval. We got this. You need a certificate of occupancy. We got this. The last step, which is the easiest one, to get a thumbs up from the Department of Transportation. This is where we are today, and that took longer than what we thought it should take, but for good reasons, for great reasons. The store has a drive-through. The store is on one of the most dynamic traffic drivers for any retail store. The Department of Transportation expressed concern about the traffic we will draw into the store that they required us to get a new parking, an extra parcel, which we did.

We aligned on the data, which we did. We resubmitted, and then we are now waiting for an approval that literally could come any day. We were actually hoping that while we are doing the call today, we could share the news of Lodi, but it is imminent at any point right now, Noel.

Noel Atkinson
VP and Research Analyst, Clarus Securities

Okay, great. Just follow up in New Jersey quick. So you mentioned in your prepared remarks that there'll be, you know, wholesale availability, you know, once hopefully the CRC gives you the thumbs up here, and for the 30 days you'll be able to, you know, provide some wholesale out to other dispensaries. Once you get your, presuming, 3 stores up and running, do you still see that you'll have availability of product from your facility wholesale, or are you gonna keep pretty much everything in?

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

We believe that we will have a supply to sell wholesale as well. You know, obviously, the adult use kickoff has been delayed versus what we had originally thought. Originally, we thought it was probably gonna happen around November. Back at that point, we were prioritizing building inventory for our own stores. At this point, we have significant inventory of product to sell to our own medical patients, you know, through our own stores and to be able to sell wholesale. We intend on being able to serve both markets. On top of that, we also, you know, like, you know, believe firmly that at your retail stores, you shouldn't only try to push your own products on customers.

You know, I think the way to build the most loyal customer base at retail is to sell customers the products that they want, not the products that you make the most money on. We are also planning on stocking, you know, many of the other brands that are cultivated and manufactured across the state. We will be stocking those brands as well at our stores, which, you know, also frees up some inventory for us to sell wholesale across the state.

Noel Atkinson
VP and Research Analyst, Clarus Securities

Okay, great. Thank you very much.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Thank you.

Operator

Next question will be from Andrew Semple at Echelon. Please go ahead.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Hi, Andrew.

Andrew Semple
Equity Research Analyst, Echelon Capital Markets

Good evening. Hi there.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Good evening.

Andrew Semple
Equity Research Analyst, Echelon Capital Markets

Just wanted to ask on the gross margins, which were 50% adjusted for the current quarter. I'd like to get your thoughts on the puts and takes on the gross margins for the year ahead, given the large number of moving items, including the consolidation of Gage and New Jersey adult-use sales potentially beginning in the near term. Any thoughts you could share on margin expectations for 2022 and whether you believe the 50% level can be sustained or perhaps even improved on in the year ahead?

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Sure. Keith, do you wanna take that?

Keith Stauffer
CFO, TerrAscend

Sure. Hey, Andrew. I think directionally, I think it's clear we're still kind of coming out of some of the activities in the back half of last year and sort of climbing our way out of that, and rediscovering some scale in Pennsylvania and absorbing the costs there. It's not gonna be a straight smooth line up, but we expect to see margins be able to stay at or above those levels. The biggest driver, you said the puts and takes. The real big driver obviously is New Jersey, where we'll have a very favorable cost structure, very favorable pricing structure in the initial many months of that adult use market.

New Jersey is gonna be a great driver of gross margin for us. Then, Gage will be, you know, we still have to kind of bring that into the fold and kind of get our heads around that and come out at some point with more visibility for you all. That might be, you know, a slight offset to something like New Jersey that will be definitely a tailwind to call out. All in all, we do see that we'll be able to make continued progress on the gross margin front.

Andrew Semple
Equity Research Analyst, Echelon Capital Markets

Great. Thank you, Keith. Just a quick follow-up here. Have you made any CapEx budget plans for the year ahead? If so, would you be able to share those?

Keith Stauffer
CFO, TerrAscend

Yeah, I can take that one as well.

Andrew Semple
Equity Research Analyst, Echelon Capital Markets

Sure.

Keith Stauffer
CFO, TerrAscend

The major projects will be the first, which is well underway, is the Hagerstown expansion. The second that we talked about a little bit on the call here is the soon-to-start expansion in New Jersey. Those will be our two major CapEx projects. I think directionally you can think about those projects being larger spend items than our last couple year trend of CapEx. On top of that, add in more from a retail perspective with Gage. Those are kind of the three big levers on the CapEx line for us this year.

Andrew Semple
Equity Research Analyst, Echelon Capital Markets

Great. Thank you so much.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Thank you.

Operator

Next question will be from Howard Penney at Hedgeye. Please go ahead.

Howard Penney
Managing Director and Sector Head, Hedgeye Risk Management

Thanks very much for the question. It was a margin question as well. I was wondering if you had attempted to try to quantify what the reset and the PA in Pennsylvania cost you from a revenue and/or margin standpoint, and how you thought that would, I think you may have answered this, but how that may influence margins next year. Thanks.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Yeah.

Keith Stauffer
CFO, TerrAscend

Yeah.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

I don't know that we've specifically quantified it. Keith, you wanna take a shot at that?

Keith Stauffer
CFO, TerrAscend

Yeah, it's a tricky one to say a specific quantification, but surely, I mean, you saw the impact in our Q3 results. That was where we may have borne the brunt of it. We got some recovery in Q4. There's some sort of accounting technicalities of what flows through the P&L, you know, what costs get capitalized and how that ebbs and flows each quarter. I think taking a step back from all that, there could be some ups and downs related to PA, but over the course of the next several months, we're gonna see that facility continue to gain scale given the quality that we're seeing and the ramp back up in sales.

Again, it won't be a smooth straight line, but it'll go in the right direction as we go through the year here.

Howard Penney
Managing Director and Sector Head, Hedgeye Risk Management

Yep.

Operator

Did that answer your question, Mr. Penney?

Howard Penney
Managing Director and Sector Head, Hedgeye Risk Management

Yeah. Sorry. Awesome. Thank you so much. Yeah.

Operator

Thank you.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Thank you.

Operator

At this time, I would like to turn the call back over to Mr. Wild for closing comments.

Jason Wild
Executive Chairman, TerrAscend

Thank you, everybody, for joining our Q4 call. We look forward to our next call, our Q1 call in a couple of months. Hopefully, New Jersey will have launched, and we'll be able to give you all more detail on that as well as a whole lot more detail on how we're doing in Michigan with Gage. Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, this does indeed conclude your conference call for today. Once again, thank you for attending. At this time, we do ask that you please disconnect your lines.

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