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Earnings Call: Q1 2020

May 29, 2020

Operator

Good morning, everyone. Welcome to TerrAscend's First Quarter 2020 Conference Call for the three-month period ending March 31, 2020. Listeners are reminded that certain matters discussed in today's conference call or answers that may be given to questions asked could constitute forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties relating to TerrAscend's future financial or business performance. Actual results could differ materially from those anticipated in these forward-looking statements. The risk factors that may affect results are detailed in TerrAscend's annual information form and other periodic filings and registration statements. These documents may be accessed via the SEDAR database. I'd like to remind everyone that this call is being recorded today, Friday, May 29, 2020. I would now like to introduce Mr. Jason Ackerman, Chief Executive Officer of TerrAscend. Please go ahead, Mr. Ackerman.

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Thank you. Hi, good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us today. With me, we have Jason Wild, our Chairman, and Keith Stauffer, our new Chief Financial Officer. Welcome, everyone. Today and this morning, I'd like to take a few minutes to discuss our strategic priorities and some of our recent successes, and then Keith is going to discuss our financial results, and then we'll open it up for some questions. As we discussed on our last call, TerrAscend has entered 2020 with a real solid foundation for growth. This is driven by two ingredients. One, our talent, as I feel we've really assembled an excellent and effective team, which we do continue to evolve, and some very high-quality operating assets.

Together, they enable us to accomplish our strategic goal of building a super high-quality, customer-focused cannabis business that we believe is capable of sustaining continuous growth and strong profit margins. For Q1 of this year, we generated $34.8 million in sales, which represents a sequential increase of more than 34%. We've also achieved an incredibly important milestone of reporting positive adjusted EBITDA on a consolidated basis, and we expect this trend to continue. On that point, Q1 2020 adjusted EBITDA was a + $4.9 million or a 14% margin, and this also represents a $10 million quarter-over-quarter increase in adjusted EBITDA on $9 million of increase in sales. I believe what this demonstrates is our focus on growing our business and having as tight a control as we possibly can on costs.

As we stated before, our U.S. operations represents the greatest growth opportunity for our business, and in the quarter, they accounted for 89% of our revenue and contributed 25% adjusted EBITDA margins. We've developed a strong foothold in the United States by focusing on high-growth cannabis markets with favorable dynamics in both the East Coast and the West Coast. As a reminder, we are the only North American operator with scale operations in both the U.S. and Canada. While we see the biggest opportunity in the U.S. today, we still see substantial long-term Canadian market opportunity. In the meantime, we're very focused on rightsizing our Canadian operations to ensure the business line becomes profitable, because that is what we're in business for, and we're working hard at that.

In the U.S. today, we are active in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and California, and plan to leverage these East and West Coast hubs to strategically expand where the return on investment is justified. In Q1, we completed the tripling of our cultivation facility in Pennsylvania and have begun to see the benefits of that expansion driving our growth in the last month of the quarter and expect to see that continuation of this growth in sales and profitability throughout the rest of this year. We are also progressing well on the build-out of our New Jersey cultivation and dispensary space and expect to see these operationally by the end of the year. I'm also pretty excited but cautiously optimistic about New Jersey rec ballot in November, which could have a very positive impact on the growth of that market.

Since our last call, we have continued to see strong demand across our business despite the current pandemic, we'd like to reiterate that all of our facilities and dispensaries have implemented strict protocols to protect the health and wellness of our employees, our customers, and patients during this very difficult time. We have introduced in Pennsylvania a drive-through, which has been a great success, curbside pickup at most all of our dispensary's locations. Across the company, online revenue for our retail locations have increased 4X, driven by COVID. Given my background as an online retailer, this makes me particularly excited because I do believe that digital is a big part of the future of our business. Last week, we announced a $30 million private placement that will position us with a very strong balance sheet to complete our investments in the U.S.

We are propelling the growth of our business through this investment. As you may recall, early this year, we strengthened our balance sheet through the Canopy loan and the concurrent repayment of the $47 million U.S. credit facility. We had planned to complete this current fundraising as part of that overall financing strategy to support the completion of our U.S. build-out. Some of the main projects included in that is the construction of our 150,000 sq ft New Jersey facility, which is scheduled for the end of this year, and we plan to open four new Apothecarium dispensaries across all three states that we're active in, bringing the total footprint at the end of the year to nine, with added locations planned for early next year.

Lastly, before I turn the call over to Keith, I'm excited to announce that we anticipate that based on our strong success to date, that our Q2 2020 net sales will be at least CAD 45 million, representing excess of 30% sequential growth, as well as ongoing expansion of our gross margins and adjusted EBITDA margins. As I continue to focus on building a world-class team, I'm very excited to have Keith as our new CFO. Keith has deep consumer packaged goods experience in highly scaled global businesses and brings very strong financial acumen and rigor to the team. With that, I'd now like to turn it over to Keith to discuss our financial highlights for the first quarter, then we'll open up for questions. Thank you.

Keith Stauffer
CFO, TerrAscend

Thanks, Jason. Good morning, everyone. Before I start, I'd just like to say how excited I am to be on the TerrAscend team and really impressed with what I've seen so far since joining about a month ago. As a reminder, the results I will be going over today can be found in our financial statements in MD&A, and all results are in Canadian dollars. Net sales increased 139% to CAD 34.8 million in Q1, compared to CAD 14.6 million same quarter a year ago. This growth was driven by our U.S. business, which delivered CAD 30.9 million in revenue in the quarter, as Jason said, representing 89% of total company net revenue, and really reflecting TerrAscend's continued focus on this important market.

The increase in revenue was driven by the operational scale-up of our U.S. footprint, which the company has strategically expanded through investments in production capacity, as well as wholesale and retail sales capabilities, as Jason outlined earlier. In Q1, gross margin before gain on fair value of biological assets was 45%, compared to 10% last year. The increase in gross margin is the result of the company's shift to higher margin revenue opportunities in the U.S., as well as the ongoing initiatives the company has performed to rationalize its Canadian operations to the current market opportunity.

Importantly, our Q1 gross margin in the U.S. before gain on fair value of biological assets was 57%. In the quarter, G&A was CAD 14.6 million, an increase of 66% versus last year, but less than half the rate of net sales growth. The change was primarily driven by the 2019 acquisitions in the U.S.

The company expects to continue to strategically invest in acquiring the talent and developing the appropriate infrastructure to ensure continued expansion in the high-growth U.S. market, while also driving operating leverage as the company's operations continue to scale. In Q1, adjusted EBITDA was a CAD +4.9 million compared to CAD -5.5 million last year. On a geographic basis, adjusted EBITDA from the company's Canadian and U.S. operations in Q1 was CAD -3.3 million and CAD +8.2 million respectively. Importantly, adjusted EBITDA margin from the company's U.S. operations was 25%.

We ended the quarter with CAD 31.4 million in cash and equivalents, including restricted cash, compared to CAD 8.6 million at the end of Q1 last year. As Jason noted earlier, subsequent to the quarter end, we announced a $30 million non-brokered private placement based on strong investor demand we announced this morning has been upsized to $37 million.

The first tranche, which included a CAD 20 million lead order from JW Asset Management, closed on May 22nd, and the second tranche totaling CAD 7.1 million closed yesterday, May 28th, and we expect to close the remaining proceeds by the end of next week. Finally, before closing, I'd just like to say that after one month on the job and getting to know the team and the company's capabilities, I'm really impressed with what I've seen so far. However, there is also much work to be done to continue to strengthen the company's foundation for future growth. To that end, we have initiated a finance transformation effort, which will upgrade, standardize, and streamline our accounting, financial, IT, and management processes and systems. This effort will be a key enabler to future sustainable and predictable growth, and I look forward to reporting our progress in future updates.

With that, I'd now like to turn the call back to the operator to open the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press the star followed by the one on your touch-tone phone. You will hear a three-tone prompt acknowledging your request. If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. One moment please for your first question. Your first question comes from Kenric Tyghe from AltaCorp Capital. Please go ahead.

Kenric Tyghe
Analyst, AltaCorp Capital

Thank you, and good morning. Congrats on the quarter. Very strong performance. Nice to see a positive surprise in the space. Jason, could you speak to the momentum you're seeing in your East Coast versus West Coast operations? How to think about the progression of that momentum through the year? If you could also then just sort of line that up with the cost discipline and cost controls we saw in quarter and how you'll execute against that for the balance of the year as well, please.

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Sure, Kenric. If you look at how we're growing right now, the largest increase in our throughput and capability was in the East Coast operations by tripling our cultivation capability and manufacturing capability. As I said, as that came through the end of the first quarter and will be fully realized on the second quarter, that will be our largest propelling of growth into the second quarter, and given the profit margins that exist within the vertical integration operations, that will continue to put positive momentum in our overall earnings capability as that expands. On the West Coast operations, you know that's a relatively mature market, and the growth will continue to be shown largely through the opening of additional dispensaries, which we have in the pipeline at the moment, and we continue to work with the local governments, finding additional locations. We have a nice pipeline there.

As well as throughout the year, as you recall, we are expanding and have spent the money mostly already to expand our high-quality cannabis growth in the West Coast for our vertical as well as our Valhalla operations. We opened a new facility to expand that. We expect to see that show up more towards the middle to back of the year. Then, of course, New Jersey, which will then be following up behind it, which largely will be seen into the following year, which we think will be a great accelerant as continued growth for our business.

Kenric Tyghe
Analyst, AltaCorp Capital

Thank you. Jason, just a quick follow-up on the East Coast or Pennsylvania specifically, could you remind us how many dispensaries you would expect to have opening in this second quarter? Separate to that, how the performance of the Pennsylvania business both in quarter and dependent on whatever dispensaries you're opening in the second, how that margin performance is tracking relative to your prior comments, your level of confidence around that opportunity set. We realize it remains supply-constrained and the margin profile is attractive, but any color you could provide there would be fantastic. Thank you.

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Sure. We have three licensed dispensaries in the state of Pennsylvania and three licensed in New Jersey. That second one has opened up about six weeks ago, and the third will be opening up sometime during this second quarter, probably towards the back end. Dispensary margin operations have been strong and interestingly enough, as online has been a larger part of the business in COVID, and COVID has continued to provide strength, we are seeing very strong margins at our dispensary level. We also, as you can imagine, with the scaling up of our operations in cultivation and manufacturing, that tripling has also provided some substantial scaling opportunities. I believe that we are a very effective operator. Then I got to tell you, the team there is just knocking it out of the park. They are really a strong team.

They're very super cost-conscious, and this expansion has given us substantial leverage in our operations.

Kenric Tyghe
Analyst, AltaCorp Capital

Thank you. Just a quick final one for me, if I could. The non-brokered private placement, upsized and oversubscribed. Could you speak to what flexibility that provides with respect to either current operations or opportunities, perhaps outside of your current operations and geographies, with that most recent capital raise?

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Sure. The dollar raise, we did have a substantial oversubscription for it. We have well overfunded our capital needs, so this amount is in excess of the needs for us all the way through into next year. It gives us a little bit of powder. We will continue to do and be opportunistic outside of our current capital plan to look to be opportunistic. Yeah. At the moment, it's not earmarked, but we'll use our disciplines, but we'll be opportunistic.

Kenric Tyghe
Analyst, AltaCorp Capital

Great. Thank you. I'll get back in queue.

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Sure.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Robert Fagan from Stifel. Please go ahead.

Robert Fagan
Analyst, Stifel

Thanks, guys, for taking my questions. I'd echo the congrats on the strong profitability there.

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Thank you.

Robert Fagan
Analyst, Stifel

Yeah, thanks. Jason Ackerman, if I could ask you maybe to give us a bit of color, whatever is available for the performance in California in this quarter. With obviously, I guess, strong performance on the East Coast division, could you give me kind of like an order of magnitude of relative performance for the West Coast kind of retail operations in comparison? That would be great.

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Sure. The dispensary operations in the West Coast had good performance, but the level of overall growth that we're seeing on the East Coast with the large expansion, so it's smaller. As we said, California as a market is more mature, so you would expect to see more mature growth rates overall in that marketplace. For the first quarter, that's what you would have expected. Again, I'll reiterate that there were no additional dispensaries opened in our channel in the West Coast. We have a pipeline that we're building of new retail opportunities, and we've been investing substantially, which most of that money has now been spent, to increase our grow and increase our manufacturing capability, which will be seeding future growth for that West Coast operation.

Robert Fagan
Analyst, Stifel

Okay. Great, thanks for that color. If I could ask another one on shifting gears to Canada. There was, I guess, a good sequential growth in Canadian revenues, but still quite a bit below the kind of quarterly run rates we saw historically. What do you think is the possibility to recapture some of those kind of higher sales levels in Canada, if that's something you guys envision? If not, what kind of growth trajectory should we expect going forward in that business?

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Yeah, great question. In Canada, sales to me are less important than profitability. As we kind of dissected where we were, my assessment overall is that we need to make sure that we're going after profitable growth, not just growth. Through the last four months we've done a complete top to top review of every product we have in the marketplace, our costing, our processes and so forth. I have intentionally kind of pushed and backed off things that are not what I think are making sense for the long term. What I would say is that we are reseeding our portfolio in a way that will position us to have sustained supply and sustained product and sustained margins, and we're in the middle of that.

I expect that overall growth, as you saw, come down, and I believe that we've built a foundational base largely off of that. It takes a little bit of time to work our way into the market with new stock keeping units that we're launching and changing some of the profiles that I think are more logical relative to the demand in the marketplace. I think we'll see those come in towards the back half of the year. We are in a transition, as you also know, and I stated in the last call, we've done a substantial cost reduction in the Canadian operation, which will begin to show up soon, and rightsizing that business. I really feel that that opportunity sits more in the back half of this year.

Robert Fagan
Analyst, Stifel

Great. Thanks for that as well. I guess if I can get one more in, insofar as your U.S. kind of EBITDA margin for the quarter, 25%, very respectable. Is there some kind of indication you could give us about whether the cannabidiol or Arise Bioscience business unit is a drag or kind of augments a little bit that profitability profile? I can imagine it is not as strong as what you have in PA, but are we looking at kind of EBITDA losses there as we are in Canada here?

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Well, we don't give specific guidance on any particular asset. What I would say is that similar to Canada, the CBD business did have some profiles of products that had lower margin and some that had higher margin. We've rejiggered the team. We've got great leadership there right now. Into quarter one, versus the previous quarters, we did have an increase in our margin structure as again, that top to top review of all of our SKUs and how we're going to marketplace. We made some great progress in our margin profile. I think as you've seen broadly across the CBD spectrum, business as a whole doesn't have a lot of momentum relative to tetrahydrocannabinol. That business as a market as a whole is more challenged and it's harder to drive growth.

Overall, our gross profit margins did see some improvement, and I believe that business is set up for success in the future. Just as a note, COVID has had an impact on the CBD business because a large amount of those stores are not considered essential, which will also have an impact. I do believe that that business has good potential. Again, kind of hopefully seeing that more towards the back of the year than at the moment.

Robert Fagan
Analyst, Stifel

Okay. Thanks, Jason, very much. Great color and congrats on the quarter.

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from George Anghelache from Clarus Securities. Please go ahead.

George Anghelache
Analyst, Clarus Securities

Good morning, guys. This is George dialing in on behalf of Noel. Congrats on a great quarter as well. Just a couple of questions here from me. Can you give us a sense of the wholesale competitive environment in Pennsylvania at the moment?

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Yeah, sure. What I'd say is, it is evolving. It is a relatively new marketplace. The way I would characterize it is that the market started at being an undersupplied marketplace. If you had cannabis, then you could sell cannabis, and that's in its typical cycle. A reminder, the one thing I love about Pennsylvania, it's relatively in balance between the canopy that's under growth and the relative growth in retail stores. As we continue to see the retail dispensaries now hit 80 out of the 150, those dispensaries keep on opening up, and even as cultivation, which I believe I would consider to be now close to balance as opposed to being undersupplied. We finally reached a point where it's a bit in balance. We still see relatively firm pricing. Other people are also coming along with capacity.

If you look at the 80 dispensaries going to 150, and strong patient growth in that marketplace, I believe that that market has lots of room to grow, and that the additional capacity brought on by us and others will be continued to be taken up by the growth in overall consumer demand. We feel good, but I characterize it as moving from undersupplied to being healthy but competitive.

George Anghelache
Analyst, Clarus Securities

Got it. Okay. Thank you very much for that color. Just the last question here. On the New Jersey front, what are the key milestones that you guys would need to reach to be able to open your first store there? Also, do you have any additional store locations identified in the state at the moment?

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Yeah. Our Phillipsburg location is under construction, and that is slated to open in the third quarter. We have signed letters of intent on one location and a second letter of intent that's being finalized right now. We've identified the locations. We still have to go through the normal course process to see those through fruition. We do, in my mind, have the identification of those three locations where we are. New Jersey construction is moving along nicely. During COVID, getting construction permits was a little bit challenging, so that was a bit frustrating. We've got a good construction team over there, guys I've worked with in my previous life, on top of it. That's all moving along nicely.

George Anghelache
Analyst, Clarus Securities

Okay, perfect. Well, thank you very much for that color. Yeah, thank you.

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Yeah, my pleasure.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Eric Des Lauriers from Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead.

Eric Des Lauriers
Analyst, Craig-Hallum Capital Group

All right, great. Thanks for taking my questions, guys, and I'll offer you my congrats on the strong profitability as well. First question from me, I was wondering if you could just talk about the M&A pipeline and how JW Asset Management could be a lead-in for you guys and just how the deal flow from JW Asset Management could potentially act as an acquisition for you guys. Just a little bit of color there would be helpful. Thanks.

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Yeah, sure. It's a good question because one of the compelling reasons for me to join the team, honestly, is the partnership with Jason Wild and the firm. As you know, JW's been a long-term investor in the space and is in the pipeline of pretty much all deals that are coming through, which, for me, takes a lot of pressure off in making sure that I'm worrying about the deal flow and focus on the business. We're seeing a ton of stuff, is what I'd say. It's what I love about the partnership. We pretty much see everything that comes across, but at the same time, I'd say that we are not just looking to grow for growth's sake. We are very focused and have a lot of strategic filters to our process.

Jay and I speak about 100x a day, so that filter is known and understood, and so we're focused, but the pipeline is good. I think, as you know, it's an interesting time. One of the things I love about the space at the moment is there's the musical chairs have stopped in large part in the markets around funding is a little tougher these days. That does present some great opportunities, which I'm pretty excited about. We'll maintain our disciplines.

Eric Des Lauriers
Analyst, Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Yeah, that's great to hear. Then just the last one from me. Figured I'd try another one on PA wholesale strategy. Looking at menus online, it looks like Ilera has more SKUs in third-party dispensaries than any other brand. Are there any market share numbers that you guys can share? Do you have any SKU expansion or SKU rationalization plans that go along with your tripling of cultivation capacity? Are you guys comfortable with your current SKUs, and now it's really about just increasing volume?

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Market share, gosh, I've heard so many different numbers. I think I know what the market share numbers are, but I'm a little cautious to quote them. I would say, as primarily a wholesaler, if we were to quote market share, we would be focusing on the wholesale market share, because as you know, with having three dispensaries out of the 80 that are open right now, you can just say 3/80ths of the market share at retail. On a wholesale basis, with our capacity, I would say we're certainly above 20% share at a wholesale level. If not high, would be my estimate. I don't know where we rank relative to exactly the other top players, but I'd say we're right up there with them.

With respect to products, listen, at the end of the day, we are in the business, plain and simple, of making customers and patients happy and satisfied. If you're going to do that, you can't just have products available. You have to have great products available and products that are evolving with the needs of the marketplace. As Pennsylvania continues to increase the count of patients, the demographic of those patients will evolve, and therefore, the taste of those patients will as well. We have a great product development cycle. The answer is no. We obviously have some killer SKUs that are running through the system, but make no mistake, product development is a critical part of the lifeblood of this business, and they are really great. We've got a great group of scientists. We meet all the time, or they meet all the time.

Product development is a big part of what we continue to expect. Given the velocities that we're moving for the facilities, we continue to see scale and efficiencies in all the stuff that we produce. Just note that we're not just a flower business. A large percentage of our revenue does come from manufactured products, and I believe that's a very important continuation of our strategy.

Eric Des Lauriers
Analyst, Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Yeah, that's excellent. Just one last follow-up from me on PA side of things. It's great to hear that you guys have completed your expansion in Q1. I'm just wondering, is that expansion fully planted, or are you planning on kind of scaling the amount that's planted throughout the year?

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

We do have the ability to further expand capacity at another 15%, and we do plan on putting that in place during the course of the third quarter, which can become available into the fourth quarter of this year.

Eric Des Lauriers
Analyst, Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Okay, great. All right, that's it for me. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, should you have any questions, please press star followed by one. The next question comes from Glenn Mattson from Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go ahead.

Glenn Mattson
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Hi. Yeah, thanks for taking the question. Just curious on, I think you guys have quoted a few different times that Ilera had 59% EBITDA margins prior to the acquisition. I'm just curious as to what do you think those margins might look like as you scale? I'm assuming they're going to come in a bit, but just kind of a ballpark range for how we can think about it, since it's going to become likely a large percentage of the business by the fourth quarter, even larger so.

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

We're not quoting margins by department at the moment. What I would say, if you look at our 25% in contribution this month, and that largely did not fully reflect the growth of the expansion, with that CAD 10 million flowing through the operation from quarter-to-quarter, you can kind of extrapolate on how that will play through into the numbers going forward. The East Coast vertical operations are what I would say, at the upper end of the more profitable side of the business, particularly as the market maintains a generally healthy equilibrium between supply and demand. As we continue to increase capacity, we are growing sales in excess of growing our costs in that marketplace, which not to say that we'll expand our margins because we're very focused on being the highest quality and lowest cost producer.

To the extent that we see any price compression, we're going to be right there, and we believe we can kind of hold our margins as we drive growth and competitiveness.

Glenn Mattson
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Great. Thanks. In California, I'm not sure if you updated when exactly you think the Berkeley store will be open, perhaps you did and I missed it, but any insight as to what the further expansion will look like as far as geographically speaking in California? That's it for me. Thanks.

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Yeah. Berkeley actually was scheduled to be open, but COVID stopped it. Construction is done. I believe that we'll be opening up Berkeley in the month of July now, coming into the summer. COVID still is affecting the college town, so we're kind of using our judgment on that. Capitola is under construction, so that will be largely a fourth quarter opening. The team has, since TerrAscend has been involved, has been supporting the efforts that they've done to support finding additional locations with towns and applying for licenses. We're very active, so not to announce all the things, but we do have what I call seeds out there in the marketplace, which we are encouraged and hope to continue to be issued additional license opportunities. In terms of focus, we are really focused on Northern California right now. California is a big place.

I'm a big believer in scale, line of sight, eyes on prize management. We're very focused in the generally kind of northern part of California so that we get leverage on our teams, consistency, customers, brand, marketing, delivery, and so forth. That's really where our focus is at the moment.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Peter Ferrero from Ferrero Enterprises. Please go ahead.

Peter Ferrero
Analyst, Ferrero Enterprise

Hi, Jason. How are you doing? I just got two questions. Can you talk about a little bit about Heather Molloy and what she means to TerrAscend? She was instrumental in getting the Ilera deal done. My second question would be, when do you think the State Flower acquisition is going to close?

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Heather runs business development. Biz dev is an incredibly important part of our operations today. In terms of, I think you asked, sorry, the second question was future acquisitions? Sorry, can you repeat that one?

Peter Ferrero
Analyst, Ferrero Enterprise

With State Flower, because that was supposed to close.

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Oh, State Flower.

Peter Ferrero
Analyst, Ferrero Enterprise

I believe. Yeah. Do you know when that'll close?

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

The general, it's now in our numbers, and there is an earn-out payment based upon the year's revenue post-expansion. We've been funding and have finished funding, and they'll be opening soon, the further expansion. I believe that will close officially during 2021. Probably the middle to end of 2021.

Peter Ferrero
Analyst, Ferrero Enterprise

Okay.

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

I could be wrong exactly on those dates, but I'm pretty sure that's roughly it.

Peter Ferrero
Analyst, Ferrero Enterprise

Okay. Just one more quick question. Do you still like the Massachusetts market right now?

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Not during COVID, but yeah. It's interesting that marketplace. I think there's definitely strong demand. There's a lot of players. I said if we could find the right entrance into that marketplace with enough scale, I do. I wish you can get more than three dispensaries into that marketplace, but I think there are some good margin dynamics. The state has been a little bit rough at getting locations up and running. I do believe if you can find the right positioning there is good money to be made, and there is good consumer demand. I would say, yes, but cautious, but it's got to be exactly the right spot. It's not just being there for the sake of being there.

Peter Ferrero
Analyst, Ferrero Enterprise

Okay. That's it for me. Thank you, Jason.

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. You may proceed.

Jason Ackerman
CEO, TerrAscend

Okay. If there's no questions, I just want to thank all of you for covering us and for listening. That's it. We look forward to speaking to all of you the next quarter, hopefully leaving better results. Have a good weekend. Bye.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating, and we ask that you please disconnect your line now.