Now ladies and gentlemen, I would like to start part 2 of fiscal 2021 financial performance press conference by Toyota Motor Corporation.
First of
all, let me introduce to you the participants for this part. Member of the Board, Chief Digital Officer, James Now the member of the Board, James Kuffner, is going to make a presentation.
Good afternoon. Today, I'm excited to share with you a glimpse of Toyota's technology and strategy with regards to carbon neutrality. Before I begin, I would like to express deep gratitude to the millions of Toyota customers who continue to choose our products and services and place their trust in us. The COVID-nineteen global pandemic has been difficult for everyone. These strong financial results that we have shared today were only possible due to the hard work and dedication of Toyota Group employees, suppliers, dealers, shareholders and partners worldwide.
Thanks to these amazing people Toyota can continue to create and develop advanced technologies and provide outstanding products and services that fulfill the needs of customers all over the world. The Toyota philosophy was developed to guide our company. At its foundation is mobility and happiness for all. For over 80 years, Toyota has been executing on its vision and mission to reduce happiness and deliver safe, sustainable mobility technology to customers globally. As part of that mission, Toyota has been working hard to help all countries and regions around the world achieve carbon neutrality through its products.
In addition, Toyota is 100% committed as a company to achieving carbon neutrality by 2,050 or earlier. What does carbon neutrality actually mean for the automotive industry? Carbon neutrality for the automotive industry means Achieving 0 CO2 emissions in all processes throughout the lifecycle of manufacturing, transporting, operating, Fueling and or charging and recycling and disposing of vehicles. Toyota has been innovating and investing in technology to reduce emissions and achieve carbon neutrality for over 30 years. In the early 1990s, Toyota committed to achieving the ambitious goal of building a Practical mass market vehicle that would have twice the fuel efficiency of a Corolla class vehicle with the same high reliability and low cost that Toyota customers expect.
There were many skeptics at the time. In 1996, Toyota developed and launched its first battery electric vehicle, the RAV4 EV. The RAV4 EV faced Significant challenges related to limited range, long charging times and lack of available charging infrastructure. But Toyota engineers used customer feedback and valuable knowledge from the RAV4 EV development to improve both battery technology and power electronics. In 1997, Toyota launched the best selling Prius, the world's first mass produced hybrid electric vehicle.
Bringing practical HEVs to market was not easy. It involved many innovations in motors, Inverters, engines, batteries and electronics. Some of Toyota's innovations in battery technology included materials, manufacturing processes, improved safety and crashworthiness, processes, improved safety and crashworthiness, high power output performance and better recyclability for sustainable manufacturing. Building upon that experience over the past 25 years, Tudo has remained committed to developing an array of new technologies and products to help reduce carbon emissions. We have successfully developed and launched a wide variety of innovative products, including hybrid electric vehicles, battery electric vehicles, plug in hybrid electric vehicles and hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicles.
The success of the Prius demonstrated that our commitment to carbon neutrality had also created a once in a generation opportunity for innovation and market leadership. And today, Toyota offers the world's largest lineup of 55 Practical, reliable and affordable electrified vehicles all over the world with many more to come. Our combined sales volume of electrified vehicles, including HEVs, BEVs, PHEVs and FCEVs is now more than 2,000,000 vehicles per year. The Atkinson cycle engines in our HEVs and PHEVs are Extraordinarily efficient, up around 40%. These efficiency improvements have helped reduce emissions in many parts of the world, particularly those with less green power infrastructure.
The net positive impact of Toyota's innovations enabled an estimated reduction in total Cumulative carbon emissions of approximately 140,000,000 tons in over 20 years. This is equivalent to removing 1,500,000 typical passenger vehicles from our world's roads every year over that time period. We are proud of these achievements, but we know we can and we must do better. That is why we are rapidly introducing 15 battery electric vehicle models globally by 2025, including 7 recently announced Toyota BZ models. We are also expanding and improving our product lineup of HEVs, PHEVs and FCEVs.
To support all these new products, Toyota will continue to make global investments in exciting new battery technology such as solid state batteries. Along with more efficient electric motors, these new batteries will help make EVs more practical, Safer and more sustainable. Toyota believes the world can achieve carbon neutrality, But there are still many challenges to realizing our dream. Even with perfect battery technology, a BEV will still generate tons of CO2 emissions over
its lifetime if it is charged by electricity produced
by coal or other as to charging infrastructure. I am one of them. I live in an apartment building in Tokyo and have no ability to plug in a vehicle. Fortunately, Toyota can offer me additional choices. For example, PHEVs offer flexibility and can be built with Smaller batteries using fewer materials.
PHEVs can be driven in 0 emissions electric mode optimized for the short trips that make up most of the world's driving as well as providing a hybrid mode for longer trips. In addition, Toyota continues to aggressively invest in complementary new green energy technologies aimed at achieving carbon neutrality. Toyota is the world leader in hydrogen fuel cell technology. Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe and can be produced locally at the point of use with nothing but renewable energy and water. Hydrogen can also provide long term storage of renewable energy for use during peak times.
After more than 20 years of research and development, in 2014, Toyota launched the Mirai, our first mass produced hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicle, Which won the World Green Car of the Year award in 2016. Fuel cell technology is truly magical. As the vehicle moves, air from the outside combines with hydrogen in the fuel cell to produce electricity And water, a pure and simple zero emissions vehicle that can be refueled in 3 minutes. Our 2nd generation Mirai was announced last December. We improved performance, comfort and efficiency, Increasing EPA range to 6 47 kilometers or 402 miles.
Despite these improvements, hydrogen energy still faces many challenges related to available infrastructure, overall efficiency and enabling low cost clean hydrogen production. Toyota will continue to invest in technology to overcome these challenges. Moreover, passenger cars are only a small part of hydrogen's future potential. Toyota's hydrogen fuel cell technology could help to clean up a large percentage of the world's entire transportation ecosystem. That means achieving carbon neutrality in trucks and heavy transport, Trains, buses, taxis, aviation, shipping, forklifts and industrial processes, all of whose combined CO2 emissions exceed those of passenger Toyota has also developed modular fuel cells and a standalone fuel cell generator that can be repositioned to produce electricity anywhere on demand.
For example, you can use Toyota's standalone fuel cell generator to quickly Employ a charging station for a BEV or PHEV. But cleaning up new vehicle sales is just the beginning. There are more than 1,400,000,000 vehicles in the world today and most of them have internal combustion engines. Toyota is exploring possible ways To clean up the world's legacy fleet of ICE vehicles that will still be in operation during the next 10 to 15 years. Hydrogen fuel can also be burned as a cleaner fuel.
Just last month, Toyota demonstrated a new hydrogen engine prototype that could expand the options for achieving carbon neutrality faster. In the world of motorsports where the development speed of new technology is rapid, President Toyota, who is a master driver himself, takes the wheel and repeatedly evaluates these vehicles and technology progress. Toyota's work on making ever better cars now also has the potential to enable more environmentally friendly motorsports. In everything we do, Toyota is and has always been firmly committed to carbon neutrality. Toyota has the world's largest and rapidly expanding lineup of electrified vehicles consisting of BEVs, HEVs, PHEVs and FCEVs.
Because of our unique history of working with electrification for nearly 25 years, Toyota's technology is world class and strongly positioned to help different countries around the world reduce emissions and achieve carbon neutrality faster. This was all done before mandated rules by governments or the recent global movement and growing awareness of the need for carbon neutrality. Giving back to the world and having a clean future is in our Toyota DNA. We are very excited about the future of electrified mobility and the tremendous new products and business opportunities that the green economy will create as we make progress towards achieving our goal of carbon neutrality. However, no single company including Toyota Can accomplish this goal alone.
All industries must work together to develop new technology and infrastructure in cooperation with scientists and academia as well as local and national governments. This is a challenge that we are excited about facing because it will not only lead to better products, but also help protect our precious planet at the same time. We would like to be a trusted partner to build the best product suitable for people in every part of the world to achieve carbon neutrality faster With Toyota's brand representing quality, reliability, low cost and long lasting value. Toyota is 100% committed to the global goal of achieving carbon neutrality by 2,050. And as a result, a brighter happier future for us all.
Thank you very much.
Now ladies and gentlemen, we would like to start the Q and A session. If you have a question, please click on raise hand right on the screen. And I'd like to request you to ask Novo to answer your questions. And the that will be consecutively translated. And therefore, please wait for the translation.
We will switch the screen. So if you see yourself on the screen, please start your question. So Ms. Liver, please?
Hello. Can you hear me okay?
Yes, we can.
Thank you so much for the opportunity today. I have one question for Mr. James About electrification of vehicles, it seems that there is kind of 2 camps when evaluating Toyota's pursuit of electric vehicles, One that looks at Toyota's kind of behind the pack in developing battery electric vehicles and another that looked at the recent announcement of the BZ electric vehicle plan as Toyota finally announcing the plans that it had been building for quite a long time, so not necessarily behind the pack. I wanted to ask James, Where do you see Toyota standing compared to rivals in regard to the development of specifically battery electric vehicles? I know Toyota has Quite a strength in hybrid vehicles.
Thank you very much for your question. I'll make a brief comment and then I'd like to invite our CTO, Mr. Maira to follow-up. One of the reasons that I spent some time to explain the history of electrification is that a lot of people don't actually realize that Toyota Developed electric vehicles over 20 years ago and we've learned a lot. It requires A lot of innovation and development in engines and motors and power electronics, All of these things that are needed in order to build a practical electric vehicle and electrify Transportation and Mobility and Toyota is always listening to customers, always trying to develop products that are suitable for every part of the world.
And we have to remember that the goal is not electric vehicles, the goal is carbon neutrality. And even if we have the best technology, if it's not chosen by customers, it will not have the impact of reducing admissions. And that's the reason why We've chosen to have a full lineup and we've invested in all of these technologies. But make no mistake, Toyota is really excited and I believe we're strongly positioned to lead the world in the best reliable low cost battery electric vehicles. As you know, producing batteries has a lot of challenges and we're trying to overcome them as well as the rest of the industry related to infrastructure.
But we should also not forget that Mining some of the rare elements that are needed to produce today's batteries, whether it's lithium or cobalt or nickel, these things are also producing emissions. So we have to find a good balance and that's what Toyota is committed to. We've reduced the size, we've increased power output And we've made incredible innovations in performance and safety of battery technology and we're doing that with 25 years of experience of building cars that are electrified. And like I said, we're now selling over 2,000,000 electrified vehicles per year. So I feel very Confident that we can continue to lead the industry in changing and producing products that are chosen by customers all over the world that will deliver clean Energy and Clean Transportation.
I'd like to ask maybe CTO, Maira san, to follow-up.
From my side, let me add some comments. As Doctor. Kuchner mentioned, Batteries is one way to realize carbon neutral. That is because of one way. Realizing carbon neutral is one progress of electrification.
Then how can we achieve carbon neutral? At Toyota, we think environmental technology itself is not worth it if it isn't used widely, Carbon neutral by 2,050 or in China by 2,060 are the numbers that we are hearing. But way before that, We were developing the 1st period. And even at that time, we think that the technology is only good when it is widely spread. Then the question is, how can we make technology widespread?
You don't have to stop there because you're translating simultaneously? Then how can you make technology used widely? Our convenience for the customer is important. As we mentioned in part 1, the technology of vehicles that we prepare will have To be practical for the customers, worldwide, there are many types of customers. Of course, on a day to day basis, There are some people who simply use vehicles as passenger cars, and it may sound like an excessive case.
But For example, in the United States, a 1 town trailer may be towed by the vehicle. And in the Southern Hemisphere, there are people who go into the mountains and drive on roads where you can imagine vehicles being driven. Historically, Toyota, even before the days of electrification, has always focused on the convenience of the We have responded to customers' needs. And as a result, we created the current full lineup of products that we have. For scrubber neutral, when we prepare our electrified vehicles, it's the same approach.
For people who tow Trailers, what kind of vehicles would be necessary? Currently, a lot of people think hybrids are the most convenient, and that is represented in the form of sales and units. In the future, we may have charging stations and they will have higher battery performance. Some people may see that in the past convenience. So not just the technology of batteries, but depending on the region, customers will use their vehicles in their
own way.
So convenience and environmental technology is to be provided by Toyota. To it, and we think that is important. And for electrified vehicles, as a result, we have a full lineup: HEVs, PATDs, FCEVs, BEVs, we have this tool lineup. And that is because The convenience of the customers' environmental technology is important. And as we consider this very seriously, we have this of lineup.
We would like to continue to make efforts so that we can realize carbon neutral with electrification. Thank you.
Thank you, Ms. David, for your question. Thank you very much. Now let us move on to the next question. Mr.
Naoto Ikeda, please. Could you start your question? So earlier, Mr. Nagata talked about electrification. And moving toward that, he said we would require 30x more batteries that you are using currently.
If that is the case, Procuring that battery, especially the robot fuel for the battery production, including lithium, of molten nickel included that was mentioned earlier. Currently, those raw materials are procured, for the most part, in China. And probably, you would need to start thinking about procuring in Japan or from Japan, Toyota alone wouldn't be able to achieve that. It would require cooperation with the government. And what is the current status of the discussion with the government about the procurement of those raw materials for batteries.
One other question, which also relates to the batteries. Basically speaking, those matters could come up substantially. If you leave unaddressed, it could take fire. And probably, it will become costly if you try to control that characteristics of the batteries are taking to fire. So what is the balance of that?
And in terms of cost competition amongst rivals, how are you going to maintain your competitiveness, trying to control the conductiveness of those batteries. Thank you, Mr. Ikeda, for your question. With respect to the first question, With respect to the production of batteries, so Okada, the CPO, will respond to the first part of the And the second question relates to the safety of battery and also the balance with the cost. And Mr.
Maeda, CTO, will respond to that question. So Mr. Okada, please. Thank you for your question, Mr. Ikeda.
And allow me to answer your question. First of all, In terms of the procurement of raw materials for battery production, naturally, as you pointed out in your question, we do have those concerns. And to address those concerns, in relation to batteries, we do have various partners. We do have several partners who work with us for battery recreation, and we started making efforts to ensure the procurement of batteries. And as you mentioned, The collaboration or cooperation with the government is required for the procurement purpose and requirement of batteries, and that is a very important spectrum.
Therefore, working with partner is one thing we are doing. And also, we have a partner working with us in our subsidiary, the battery manufacturer. So we work with Panasonic to ensure the certainty of procurement of Materials are for batteries. And once we have assured the procurement of raw materials in terms of procurement as well, as Mr. Naranda mentioned, The production volume is expected to increase.
I will be repeating, currently, annually, we have hours. And in 2030, we have to produce 580 gigawatt hours and we need to establish newly production lines for those batteries. And to ensure that volume for the past 20 years or so for hybrid release, we produced 17,000,000 hybrid vehicles. And the batteries required for hybrid The vehicles the capacity of that, probably 30 times of that, will have to be produced in the next 10 years or so. So as mentioned earlier, in addition to ensuring the procurement of raw materials, we must ensure Sure, the appropriate production of batteries as well, we must ensure the supply stable and safe supply of that.
For us to secure the Volume as well as the state of those batteries, we are working closely with multiple number of partners, and That is very important. And also, the subsidiaries who produce batteries, we have PPS and also PEBE. In a sense, the production there is close to in house production and in a small starting with a small capacity And starting with the small basic units, we are establishing new production lines, preparing that in the short lead time and repeating that more frequently. That's what we are trying. And if those facilities for manufacturing is necessary, we are going to produce and manufacture those During this necessary, we are going to produce and manufacture those production facilities as well.
And I'd like to share with you some Slide, as I mentioned earlier, back in 1997, we introduced hybrid vehicles. And since then, since 1997, the production facilities of hybrid motors and also the production lines for batteries. And for CTV, we are producing hydrogen tank manufacturing equipment. For those important production equipment, starting with the Small basic units minimizing the required investment, we have been introducing those production lines to be introduced in the Short, actually, in time. So those are the efforts that we have made over the years.
And this sort of technology and skills that we have accumulated over the years will be applied for the production for the X and the volume of PEPs and electrification overall. So the within group, we have the businesses are producing production equipment and mobilizing the capabilities of equipment manufacturers. We tend to have this solid and robust structure for battery supply and procurement.
This is Maida speaking. The safety of battery and the cost, the balance between the 2. Let me start by speaking from a broader perspective. When you say battery performance, You are probably talking about the batteries as seen from the customer's point of view. What does battery performance mean to the customer?
As you mentioned, cruising range, probably Deterioration performance, which will have an impact on used car prices, those will be major factors. And to balance that. In the process of using the product, how safe can it be? In the worst case, batteries can burn. But Making sure that that doesn't happen, we have to strike a balance.
Technically speaking, for example, if you want to extend the cruising range, for volume, how much power can you accumulate, that is energy density. That performance and the deterioration performance and safety may sometimes contradict each other. Safety is always important to Toyota. So Energy density is not always the priority for us. That will be our approach.
Then how do we improve the cruising range? For example, By increasing power efficiency, the cruising range can
be increased.
Of course, improving battery performance is one approach, You can look at the overall vehicle and improve power efficiency, like reducing Resistance or reduced the energy necessary inside the vehicle, it can be reduced. Through hybrid vehicle development, we have accumulated that kind of technology over the years. As a result, improving power efficiency will lead to reduction of the amended batteries to be used. So improving safety and by improving our power efficiency and reducing can be realized together. And that is what TURDA has done over the years.
And we will continue to look at things from the perspective of the customer. Now let me go into a little bit more of a detail. If I can have Slide 14. Now deterioration of the revenue. What does that mean?
I will be going into detailed technical explanation allow you
to do that.
For example, If you want a sporty drive where energy goes in and out frequently, as you see on the left hand side, the electrolyte concentration will vary and that accelerates deterioration of the batteries. Since you were developing the hybrid vehicle, we've been creating models of this. The volume, current Temperature, when these are changed, how do they deteriorate? We did a lot of basic experiments on that.
This is
what we call model based development. So we created a control system by multiple monitoring of the battery. And since introduction of hybrids, we're using these models. We introduced the vehicle control technologies to control the accuracy and reliability. Currently, 17 To the extent of our knowledge, there were no cases where there were no serious impact on the customers.
These are being used safely and reliably by our customers at the moment. So historically, we have accumulated this kind of technology. This is used for hybrid vehicles, and this will be used in the future for battery EVs. That is our approach to this technology. I went into a bit of details, but that is all from my side.
Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Mr. Ikeda. Now let us take the next question. You will hear the Japanese translation after the question.
Mr. Hans, please.
Thank you for taking my question today. May I speak in English, please? My question is a little bit about the battery ramp up that you have. You have need this massive ramp up In terms of battery supply by 2,030, can you tell us a little bit about your plans for building and sourcing Electric vehicles and electric vehicle batteries in North America, specifically. And one other thing about the carbon neutral policy.
Toyota has been talking a lot lately about this Hydrogen burning engine that you'll demonstrate later this month at Fuji Speedway and also about e fuels, How seriously are you investing in these kind of technologies right now? Is that a real pathway forward to carbon Shruti or is that just kind of a buzzword or some kind of distraction right now from the main show? And finally, maybe just if I could ask for an update On the Woven City, when can we expect some new developments on that? When will you announce who's living there? Other kinds of updates you might have?
Thank you.
Thank you very much. For the first question, The BED battery sourcing plan will be in North America will be answered by Mr. Okada. For Ifiwa and H Engine, Mr. Maeda and for the Ruben City, Doctor.
Koffner will be answering the question.
Thank you
very much for your question. So your first question was about battery sourcing in North America. In Part 1, we briefly touched upon this. But in each region, How many electrified vehicles will be produced? That plan is developed.
And of course, batteries will be necessary in each region. And in each region, which vehicle or which powertrain will be necessary, that will have to be identified through dialogue with the customers. And batteries necessary for that is to be produced within that region. That will be an important point towards the future. So you mentioned North America and the Same approach will be applied to North America.
For North America, they have vast land. And depending on where you are in the United States, the customers' preference will differ between East Coast, West Coast and Central part. So customer preference infrastructure are different depending on the regions. So taking that into consideration, we will be supplying vehicles. And likewise, for batteries, hybrids, EVs, for these vehicles, we will be sourcing the appropriate batteries.
And in order to do that, we will work to partners, and we may produce in house. We haven't determined which approach will be taken. But we will consider that so that we can provide supply in a timely manner. That is all from my side. So for the second question, let me Towards the carbon neutral, the hydrogen engine issue, How serious are we in investing in these areas?
Starting with the hydrogen engine, as we announced 2 months ago, The President will drive in May in the endurance race. So of course, we are serious. There's no way we are not serious. As we mentioned before, Customer convenience is important, and the customers use the vehicles in various ways. So the options for the customers about carbon neutral shouldn't be limited.
That is our thinking, and that is why we are developing various types of cars. Of course, The President is participating in a race. The joy from driving is it being enjoyed by many customers. And towards carbon neutral, hydrogen engines may be one solution. And as
we think
That way,
we are
serious about this. This technology may be applied to a large commercial vehicle service, something that may be possible. And as Mr. Hans, you know, in United States and Brazil, Bioethanolbasedcarbonneutralfuel is already commercialized, but this is based on existing technology. And in the future, if you combine that with hybrid, we will be able to contribute to carbon neutral in saving energy.
The technology that we have developed so far and the technology that we are to develop from now on can be combined. So that carbon neutral does not limit the choices for customers. When we say full lineup, we mean depending on the preferences and the way of using the vehicles in each region, we want to provide a wide array of options for the customers. So for any technology, we are very serious about
it. That is all.
Thank you, Hans, for your question. I'll take the question about Woven City. It's been 16 months Since President Toyoda announced the Woven City project at Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. And since then, the team has been really hard at work. And despite the COVID-nineteen, we were able to complete the Phase 1 designs and start the groundbreaking officially this year, February 23 and we are making continuous progress and we have launched also our website where we've had several 1,000 inquiries from companies and partners all over the world.
And we just announced a partnership with Enelos to develop what we believe will be The most advanced city in hydrogen and we believe that that is going to accelerate our Initiatives in order to understand how hydrogen and renewable energy can play a big part in smart cities of the future. Woven City's goal is to become a living laboratory of mobility for people, goods and information And we are continually making updates. At this point, we have plans to start inviting Companies to start working with us and we've also launched our website where you can find continuous updates. So please stay tuned. Woven City is going to be, I think, a very important part of accelerating Our efforts as a company to become a mobility company powered by software and digitalization And really be a true world leader in this area.
There are so many issues around urban development, Whether it's traffic or pollution, sustainability and all of these efforts are connected, whether it's carbon neutrality, Safe mobility, we would like to accelerate the development of all of that and transform our company to a mobility company of the future through the Woven City project. And this is just part of the larger transformation that We are embarking upon related to software first. I didn't have time to talk about that today, but Software first is a dramatic transformation and different way of designing products where we design the software architectures before Assembling the product and designing the hardware. And this is going to dramatically improve Our reusability of software across many, many different forms of mobility reduce the development cost and accelerate the Features that we can offer to our customers over time and this is not just for traditional passenger cars, but for all kinds of new Connected mobility, personal mobility, flying mobility and that is going to be something that I hope Woven City can be a flagship project and help lead the world in accelerating that development. Thank you.
The digitalization of the software first that's happening in our company on our traditional engineering is all connected to the advanced digital technologies that we will Deploy and develop in Woven City. So I believe that they're all part of the strategy of leveraging advanced Digital technology and connecting those to real products and getting real feedback in a real situation like Woven City. And that's always been our philosophy, try to test and listen to what customers are experiencing and build products that produce Human Health and Happiness.
Thank you, Hans. There may be further questions, but since the scheduled closing time has approached, so I would like to
As the
next person to be the final person asking questions, may I invite Ms. Sir, we'll switch the screen. So if you see yourself on the screen, please start your question. So Chiba san, please start your question. Can you hear me?
Chiba speaking. Yes, we can hear you. Thank you for the opportunity. I have 2 questions to the strategy of carbonization. You talked about the next generation battery.
And Mr. Nagata, in part 1, talked about the importance of enhancing the pace of battery through technology development. Could you elaborate on that in details? And so this moment, How are you going to enhance the performance of battery by when? And how are you going to bring that forward and produce those batteries.
Is there any concrete numbers that you can sign? And Can you also talk about the all solid state battery as well? Do you have any concrete timing or pro step of realizing that. The second question relates to the carbon neutrality and being made cleaner. And you may be using existing engines, but Talking about cargo neutrality, we tend to focus more on electrification with respect to the development of engine technology, the gasoline, including improvement of gasoline engine.
Mr. Chiba, it's Very difficult for us to hear your question. The sound is not really coming through. So could you repeat your question once again? And Tel Aviv, can you hear me all right?
Can you hear me all right? Could you repeat your question once again? We have so much noises. If you could speak louder, probably that will help. Can you hear me?
Well, we can hear you. I'm terribly sorry, Mr. Chibase. With respect to the battery technology, earlier, it was mentioned that you are going to increase the pace of development that was mentioned in part 1. And I would appreciate you elaborating on that more concretely on that point.
How much are you going to bring that forward, the development of battery technology? It's been very difficult for us to receive your voice, very difficult to hear discern your voice. We cannot hear you. Can you Hear me? Mr.
Chiba says. Could you say that once again? Can you hear me all right? Right now, we can hear you, yes. I'm terribly sorry.
In Part 1, Mr. Nagata talked about the development of battery technology, and he said Toyota is going to enhance or accelerate the pace of battery technology development. And I would like to hear the details of that to be elaborated. What is the current target or goal you have for battery technology? And How much are you going to bring that forward?
And what sort of performance are you aiming at? So if you could talk About that, in more concrete and specific terms, I would appreciate that very much. So that's question 1. The second question also relates to carbon neutrality. And you talked about making internal combustion engine cleaner.
I think that you probably talked about that. And talking about geocarbonization, We tend to focus more on electrification technology. But with respect to the development of engines, Based upon existing gasoline engines, you may be able to enhance the thermal efficiency of that. And including that aspect, how much investment cost are you expecting for engine development or investing meant of resources or engine technology. You're not intending to reduce that.
I would like you to talk about your approach and concept of engine development. So these are my two questions. Thank you, Mr. Chiba, for your questions. So let me talk about the first question that is the shortening the development Time lead time for battery technology, Mr.
Okada will talk about that. And the second question that is to say the enhancement of I see we're making it cleaner. Mr. Maira will talk about that. Okada speaking.
Mr. Chiba, thank you for your question. Starting with the Part 1, we have been talking about battery in Part 2 as well and ending at moving toward 2,030. We are trying to accelerate that pace as quickly as possible, and we are going to secure the necessary value. As we do that, hybrid vehicles and PHEVs.
Customers do support those 2 technologies significantly. And therefore, For in terms of supply, we tend to offer those vehicles. And as we do that, we will continue to do our batteries for PEPs and also SCEVs. We are working on that, and we accelerate further. So probably in the middle of period between 2020 and 2030.
Aiming at that time frame, we intend to further and hence our capabilities for batteries for BEVs, ensuring the supply of that and ensure the supply of those batteries that we developed so that we'll be able to achieve the goal that we set for ourselves for 2,030. So that's what we are working on in earnest at this moment. With respect to the all falling state batteries, we're It's still in the process of development, and Mr. Maeda will talk about that and supplement that later on. But at This stage, all I can say is it is still in the process of development.
We are trying to accelerate the pace of the development of the industrial industry as well. And Mr. Maida will supplement that further. And including additional remarks with respect to your first question, I would like to say the following: this, the all state batteries, solid state batteries. We are developing raw materials for that.
So technologically speaking, we still have very high hurdles to go over. I Won't be able to go into great details, but in terms of raw materials that are being developed, the safety and durability are not yet clearly clarified. So at this moment, we are specializing on the development effort, dedicating our efforts for the development of raw materials that can satisfy safety and durability requirement. As Mr. Narada mentioned earlier, the pace of battery development is being accelerated.
That leads to the meant As we move towards achievement of carbon neutrality, we talked about the importance of offering greater options of technology. To put it differently, going forward, what customers would prefer and choose in terms of vehicles offering greater convenience? That is not yet clearly defined yet. So given that uncertainty and customers' preference may change in the future, regulations might change in different ways. And that's where we find ourselves.
And we'll try to capture those changes as accurately as possible while we work on this development. It's very important to shorten the lead time for development, including the development of battery as well. So offering those factors that you see on the here on the screen. Compared with existing Toyota vehicle, in the case of bZ4X, we have shortened the and for development by around 30%. And focusing more on battery EVs going forward, we are now working hard so that where we can And to realize that, and this is connected to the IT as well, I think there are 2 important factors.
As Gafner talked about earlier, The digitalization is very important in this area as well. As I explained the safety of battery, I went into rabbit. Technical details, basically, we use computer simulation in development. And as 3, engage in development using computer simulations. The development environment itself is going to be digitalized.
So working with Kaffner's team, we need to have robust for digitalization so that we can accelerate the process of development and achieve the evolution daily. And as we do that, the TPUs that Toyota has been accumulating over the years will become very important. In the context of digital development digital based development, many different NIRIS will work together in case of development. The drawings can be made by a single person, but in the case of digital development, Log down number will be engaged in the development of software. So as we do that, how the information is flowing that need to be streamlined.
And that's an area where TPS concept or philosophy of TPS can be applied. And if that is done, if that is streamlined based upon TPS, we can enhance the efficiency further leveraging our own strength. And the TPS and digitalization that I just Talked about Minto Global relates to the training of ICEs that was mentioned in your second question. It is related to that as well. Further, I talked about the allocation of resources for enhancing thermal efficiency of existing engines.
And already, we're earnestly working on that. But as Mr. Ichiba is concerned about, We simply cannot allocate large amount of resources on that. Since we have to engage Electrification as well, the amount of resources we can dedicate could be eliminated. And therefore, Even if in the case of development of engines, the digitalization becomes important as well as using TPS concept, and those 2 becomes very important.
So when we take both of these into consideration using digitalization and TPS, we will reduce or minimize the basic unit of development so that overall efficiency can be enhanced, and that's very important. Now why The cleaning of ICE is important. Could you show us Slide 15 for that purpose? In Part 1, Mr. Narada mentioned about this little bit.
In the case of existing HEBs, when customers are using it, to what extent engine is not using engine stopped as shown here, starting with RAV4 Hybrid version, starting from the left and not before described, it has RAV4 PHEVs. And generally speaking, Generally speaking, including the vehicle speed 0 when the vehicle is stationary, between 60% 80 percent, the engine is stopped. Engine is not running, which means for the rest of the time, the engine is still used. So efficiency of engine when it is in operation need to be enhanced going forward as well. So although efficiency of engines as well.
And by using digitalization and TPS, even with a smaller amount of resources, we will try to achieved a similar result of technological development. And taking advantage of that and uniquely Toyota way of doing that, we would like to use those development to achieve the carbon neutrality going forward. That's all. Thank you, Mr. Chuba.
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