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M&A Announcement

Sep 29, 2021

Operator

Good day, welcome to the Asbury Automotive Group Investor Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Chris Reeves. Please go ahead.

Chris Reeves
VP of Finance and treasurer, Asbury Automotive Group

Thank you, Katie. Welcome to Asbury Automotive Group's Investor Call. Today's call is being recorded and will be available for replay later today. The press release announcing Asbury's transformative acquisition of Larry H. Miller Dealerships and Total Care Auto, powered by Landcar, was issued this morning and is posted on our website at asburyauto.com. In addition, an investor deck with an overview of the transaction, which we will be referencing during this call today, is also available on our website for download. Participating with us today are David Hult, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Michael Welch, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. At the conclusion of the company's remarks, we will open up the call for questions. Before we begin, the company would like to remind you that the discussion during the call today is likely to contain forward-looking statements.

Forward-looking statements are statements other than those which are historical in nature. All forward-looking statements are subject to significant uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially from those suggested by such statements. For information regarding certain of the risks that may cause actual results to differ, please see the forward-looking statements section of our press release and the investor presentation referenced earlier, as well as the company's filings with the SEC from time to time, including our Form 10-K for the year ended December 2020, and any subsequently filed quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. The company expressly disclaims any responsibility to update such forward-looking statements. I will now hand the call over to David Hult to discuss this exciting acquisition. Mr. Hult?

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Thank you, Chris Reeves. Good morning, everyone. This morning, we announced that we have entered into a contract to purchase the Larry H. Miller Group and Total Care Auto, powered by Landcar. I'd like to walk through the presentation we sent out this morning, but before I do, I just want to hit on a couple of bullet points, and then we'll certainly get into it. Our team has been working hard to thoughtfully grow our company, and this means finding groups that align with our vision, specifically related to serving our guests while taking care of our partners, meaning our manufacturer relations and our shareholders. We believe the main differentiator in a franchise system is the level of service we offer, and we know Larry H. Miller perfectly aligns with this.

This is a well-respected group with a rich history of taking care of their employees, guests, and giving back in their communities. Their density in these high-growth markets would have taken years for us to build out. We are honored to be stewards of what Larry H. Miller and Gail Miller built. They have a tremendous leadership team and 5,300 professional and passionate team members who align daily to serve their guests. I would now like to hit on some bullet points in our presentation, and then Michael and I will take some questions. Briefly going through the slides, I won't hit every point. I'll just hit a couple of things. The first slide on Asbury, looking at our current footprint in 91 locations, you can see the map of where we're at.

We have a strong team that delivers best-in-class SG&A and operating margin, and we feel like we have a disciplined vision and model to grow the company thoughtfully. On slide five. Slide five is an overview of Larry H. Miller. They are the eighth largest group in the U.S. Great brand diverse mix in high growth markets with average revenue per rooftop over $100 million. You can see their annual sales and EBITDA numbers and revenue numbers. A very strong, well-run group. On slide six, this is a very interesting business for us, and this further diversifies our model. This is buying Total Care, and I think that really that wheel kind of sums it up best. Selling products to the dealership, the dealership receiving claims, and then paying the claims money back to the dealership.

It's really a great business model that generates high margins for us, and we look to thoughtfully grow this into the Asbury platform as well. Plenty of potential there. On slide seven, this kind of talks about some of the highlights. I think it's pretty much stated. Larry H. Miller is a well-known organization for how they've been serving their communities and their guests, and we're just thrilled to be a part of this organization. We see this as an opportunity for us to leverage Clicklane and go from a coast-to-coast platform, and we're excited about that. We're excited about TCA and to be able to scale that, TCA is the Total Care, within our business model as well. This is a strong, very profitable group, and we know it further diversifies us extremely well and positions us well for the future to continue our growth.

This acquisition, and we also noted in the release this morning, we have another $900 million under contract, will certainly put us past our five-year goal in the first year. We will still continually look to thoughtfully grow the company over time. On Slide eight, this simply is a view of where everyone is at right now. A couple of the organizations just announced large acquisitions as well. We kind of put them in here into the mix as well. The pro forma to the far right is trailing 12 months, both organizations, through June. It just gives you an idea of size and scale and where we sit right now. Slide eight is really what's interesting for us. When we close this acquisition, and naturally have to go through all the normal steps to do so with OEM approvals and everything else.

When we go through this, we'll be over 150 dealerships, but we're really laid out exactly where we want to be, the states we want to be in with the brand mix we want to be in. Tremendous high growth in certain markets, as you can see below, and it diversifies us well across the country. On slide eight, the intent here with this slide, because when we did the Park Place acquisition, it was all about luxury. There is some luxury in this between Mercedes and Lexus. What the thought process was here in these seven states, we pulled data to show what are the top 10 brands in the seven states where the Miller organization does business. We aggregated the retail sales for the last three years on average. As you can see, they're ranked here by retail volume, by brand.

Down below, you'll see the LHM Dealerships, the number of stores they have within those markets. Not only is this a large, dense organization, but the Larry H. Miller organization thoughtfully built out their model and bought the right brands in the right markets to align with what the consumers want. It really just a very strong brand mix and portfolio that completely aligns with the market. On slide 11, this just breaks it down a little bit deeper. It shows you where we're at. This does not reflect the $900 million that we have under contract, simply taking the current Asbury footprint and adding LHM to it. Really strong brand mix.

On slide 12, this was a slide from last year, but it just basically speaks to the acquisition silo, if you will, and where we're at on our goal for that $5 billion in acquisitions. I'm going to hand it over to Michael now to talk about slide 13.

Michael Welch
CFO, Asbury Automotive Group

Thank you, David. David's covered a lot of the details on the Larry H. Miller Group and the Dealerships they have and the brands they have and which states they're located. I'll skip through the first bullet of the scope and just skip down to the financial impact. We're going to pay $3.2 billion for this acquisition. That includes $740 million of real estate. That reflects about a six multiple on the Larry H. Miller Dealerships and a 10 multiple on the TCA. The six multiple excludes the real estate piece, and it's just the dealership portion of that. For EBITDA, $360 million of EBITDA, and most of that has some day one cost savings. We did not factor in any of the synergies from both TCA rolling out to Asbury or Clicklane impacting the business of Larry H. Miller.

Those are future benefits that we did not factor into the EBITDA. From an EPS accretion perspective, immediate accretion day one of 14%, the Larry H. Miller portion, and three years to 2024, 20%. That accretion assumes $600 million of equity raised and also assumes that the excess cash was already spent on the other acquisitions, but we do not take credit for the earnings from those acquisitions in those accretion numbers. Financing, we'll do a mix of debt and equity. We will do that, we'll watch the market over the next few months and do the debt and equity raise sometime before closing at the end of the year.

Just from the leverage perspective, our assumption is we'll be a little higher on the leverage than our current goal of three in 2022, but we will get back down into the three range by the end of 2023. As David mentioned earlier, this closing is conditioned upon the normal customary closing conditions, including OEM approvals. We'll get through that process by the end of the year is our goal. David also mentioned we have an additional $900 million of additional revenue under contract. We expect to close those prior to closing the Miller transaction this year, but those are also subject to the normal closing conditions, including OEM approval.

The last bullet point, once we roll in those other acquisitions into the EPS accretion, that raises the number in 2022 from 14% noted above to 20%, and then in 2024, so a three-year look, moving from 20% - 28% accretion. Again, that accretion number does not include any benefits we have from Clicklane rolling out or TCA rolling into Asbury. I'm going to hand it back over to David for any closing remarks, and then we'll take Q&A.

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Just in ending this, I've stated in the past our goal is to grow thoughtfully. It wasn't about size or scale, but it was aligning with the right groups. We're honored to be stewards or have the opportunity to be stewards of such a great organization. The last few acquisitions we've done in the last three years, we've retained 100% of the general managers, 95% of the employees. This business is all about the people. We would not be here today entering into this agreement if we didn't feel like we align philosophically with this organization and that we couldn't be good stewards of the business. The story of Larry H. Miller is remarkable. It's one that will be respected for many years to come. It's our job to make sure that legacy and history continues. We're proud to partner with them to do that.

We're honored and humbled to be here. It perfectly aligns with our North Star, taking care of our teammates, taking care of our guests and our partners. Our partners are our manufacturer partners and our shareholders. We think today we've added a tremendous group of people, stores, and assets to our organization as we continue our journey. We'll now hand the call over and answer any questions you may have.

Operator

Thank you, sir. If you'd like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Again, please press star one to ask a question. We'll pause for just a moment to allow everyone the opportunity to signal for questions. Thank you. Our first question comes from Rick Nelson with Stephens.

Rick Nelson
Managing Director, Stephens

Thanks. Congrats on getting this deal to the finish line. Looks like a good one. I'm calculating EBITDA margins below Asbury. If you could speak to the opportunity to narrow that gap.

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Sure, Rick. I think when you look at it, when we look at our pro forma model going forward and how we handle expenses and things, we think that this will be accretive. We don't look at acquisitions in any other way. It has to be equal to or greater than our current margin levels. I think as we transition it onto Asbury's P&L in a forward look, I think you'll see that it aligns with our current operations.

Rick Nelson
Managing Director, Stephens

Great. It would seem to be a big opportunity on the insurance side of the business, if you could speak to that. I know it's not included in the numbers you provided, but it seems layering that into the Asbury platform.

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

It's extremely exciting to us. Very hard to build an insurance company. It just speaks to their amazing vision, over 30 years ago, building this insurance company out, an A.M. Best rated insurance company. Extremely well run. The opportunity, instead of us buying products and just making a margin on the product, now making margins on both sides, for lack of a better term, diversifying our business model with 20+% margins, up to 30% margins in some cases, really is exciting to us. When you think about it, right now we're buying the product, we're making the margin, and then if we get the service work back with that particular policy, there's additional work there. In this ecosystem, TCA is selling the contract to the dealership. The dealership is selling it, making the margin. The premium goes back to the insurance company.

They reserve the money over time. They pay claims. They pay 90% of their claims back to the dealership. That money all stays in-house, or a good majority of it. It's very exciting when you think about that. Now that opportunity to scale that within Asbury at that margin level really puts a nice business model together for us and really stabilizes our organization.

Rick Nelson
Managing Director, Stephens

Just, David, taking a step back from the financials, why do you think now is the right time to be buying dealerships? We've got record profitability, record GPUs, how sustainable do you think that is? Overall, why now?

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

It's a great question, Rick Nelson, and I'll tell you. In our franchise system, 90% of the dealers, as you know, are privately held. The why now makes sense because the deal's being announced now, but we've been looking at deals for years. There's a lot of deals we just simply don't enter into or negotiate on or show interest in because they don't think they align with us. When we feel like an organization comes up and we have an opportunity to participate where we think we could be a good steward of their business and aligns with us, we aggressively go after it. The Park Place, why now? It became available at that one moment in time. This organization became available. We were highly interested in it. I think there's going to be consolidation as time goes forward.

Again, thinking about our partnerships, they have to be a win-win. We can't walk into this acquisition and not take care of the employees and keep them because they're the ones that are running the business. We have to take care of the manufacturers and make sure we're good stewards of the business and that we can operate the business without it going backwards at all. I think that we're very thoughtful about our approach, that we're just not looking to buy revenue, but we're really looking to buy organizations and people that align with us where it can be a win-win. We'll continue to do that and build it out. As to the margins, to your point, and where it currently exists, of course, it's not going to last forever.

I think if you go back to 2019, which is probably one of the worst years for front-end margins in many, many years, we had the highest operating margin then. Your domestic and luxury have high-margin business. When you look at the brand mix and the markets that we're doing business in, whenever the margins settle down, we'll settle down at a higher number than we were. We think we're a much stronger, more stable company, and now you layer on that insurance company on top of this. I think that we're really thoughtfully building this out and making us a stronger organization.

We'll continue to look for these acquisitions, and whether that means we don't acquire anything else for the next year or 18 months or 6 months, I don't know. I can tell you, we won't acquire something that we don't think we could be a good steward of.

Rick Nelson
Managing Director, Stephens

Great. Thanks for all the color, and good luck.

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Thank you, Rick.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Ryan Sigdahl with Craig-Hallum Capital Group.

Matthew Raab
Analyst, Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Good morning, guys. This is Matt on for Ryan. Thanks for taking our questions. Just curious if you believe that the incremental revenue from the deal here is incremental to your Clicklane estimate, and if LHM adds to or synergizes with that.

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Yes. We have not layered in any ClickLane into our numbers. We believe with how well their operations are run, layering in the software and allowing them and their guests to utilize this transformative software, we believe is only going to be accretive for all parties. The guests in that market, the transparent speed and transaction time, and certainly the Miller organization. I think they're certainly ready for it. They're an innovative, adaptive company, and I'm sure they'll welcome the software, and that's all plus business to us. When we announce earnings, because we're really going to be Q2 into ClickLane, full quarters, I think you'll see the progression of ClickLane even in this low inventory model, how well it's being received by the consumer.

Matthew Raab
Analyst, Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Great. You mentioned that you're still going to kind of look to grow thoughtfully over time after exceeding your M&A target just here in the first year. Do you feel like you may revise your target, or does this change your thought set on the M&A target at all in the next three years?

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Sure. I would generally say it's always tough to predict the future. Whenever we put numbers out, whenever we put guidance or a plan out, it's a very conservative model, because we want to make sure we can attain it. Others have had much loftier goals and understand it, and maybe $5 billion wasn't an aggressive goal. It's tough to put a number on something, and you don't know what's going to come up for the market. I would tell you our growth going forward will really be opportunistic. We'll really be looking for the right organization that aligns with our philosophies in the markets that we want to do business in. It'll be very difficult to know what that cadence will be. Really, the end of this year will be one year into our five year plan.

Our intent was in our January earnings to really refresh our five year plan as far as where we're at on same store growth acquisitions and on Clicklane and kind of model that out a little bit further. You will see new guidance, but again, we're months into it. I think that the main goal right now needs for us to get the manufacturer approval, and really get to know the Miller organization and layer them into our company and make sure that it's a really smooth transition for all of them, as it was at Park Place, and we can continue to move forward as one.

Matthew Raab
Analyst, Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Great. kind of a little bit more of a math one, but just, you mentioned that the average revenue per rooftop is over $100 million. There's, I think, 61 rooftops, locations. That's a little bit more than the $5.3 billion of TTM revenue for LHM. Does that kind of square?

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

No, it's a great point, and I should have clarified that. Thank you. We looked at the 54 stores, and didn't really think about the used car operations. Clearly, they add a lot of revenue to it, but it always seems like people tend to focus on the franchise side of it. We simply took the revenue divided by the number of franchises.

Matthew Raab
Analyst, Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Great. Thanks for clearing that up. That's it for me. I'll pass it back to the queue. Thanks.

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Thanks, Matt.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Rajat Gupta with JP Morgan.

Rajat Gupta
Analyst, JPMorgan

Great. Thanks for taking the question, and congrats on the announcement. Just had a couple housekeeping follow-ups to some of the questions before. The $360 million EBITDA, that's a day one number, I assume. What does the 2022 and 2024 EPS accretion assume in terms of where that EBITDA goes for those two years? The only reason I ask is because you're obviously running at a pretty elevated level of GPU across the country. Just curious as to what's baked in terms of that EBITDA into the forward years. I had a follow-up on the TCA business. Thanks.

Michael Welch
CFO, Asbury Automotive Group

This is Michael, yeah, good question on the EBITDA. On the EPS accretion, we kind of baked in 2022, similar to 2021, and then 2023 and 2024, getting back down to kind of normal inventory levels or new normal inventory levels and the margins on that business as well going down. That's kind of baked into the model. We do assume that the margins come down, the inventory goes up, and that factors through the system. The 360 is a year one, but that EBITDA rise up a little bit in the out years, but it does get impacted by the margin impact of just the inventory return to normal.

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Again, Rajat, as you think about it, we're not including in those numbers any roll-in of Total Care Auto into Asbury, I'm saying Clicklane. Right.

Rajat Gupta
Analyst, JPMorgan

Got it. Yeah, that was going to be the next question. My sense is that average service contract roughly is two and a half, $3,000 per vehicle. You have 40%-45% penetration. Is there any way to quantify the dollar amount benefit by having this captive in-house? Just so we can get a sense of what the long-term opportunity is.

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

We kind of gave out the EBITDA margin on that business, that's some incremental margin that would be on that F&I income. The other thing that because of their ecosystem, their VSC penetration tends to run a little bit higher than maybe what our historical penetrations are. It seems like from the F&I products perspective, they do a little better job of selling that product because of the whole ecosystem on that kind of chart. As you can see, they have a full suite of products beyond the service contracts as well. The timeline for earn-out on those is a lot faster than the service contracts.

Rajat Gupta
Analyst, JPMorgan

Got it. There's just one last one on the used vehicle business. Are you looking to maybe venture back into standalone stores? Just curious as to what's the plan with the standalone stores that are coming with the acquisition? That would be all. Thank you.

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Rajat, absolutely. Happy to answer that question. No, we will not. We believe the bifurcation is not healthy, and it doesn't support the franchise models within the markets. We believe the value proposition is offering certified cars from manufacturers, and that is meaningful when you think about the cost of sale of a used car and how it goes up. Our goal is to grow the revenue through the rooftops we have. Our omni-channel approach and our Clicklane tool allows us to do that. Having a standard or a standalone brick-and-mortar facility that costs $10 million-$15 million to badge it when we can do that same book of business through the branded store, and in this case, an LHM store, we would never think of doing that. We want our folks to enjoy the revenue that we can generate through the rooftop.

As we grow that, everyone within the store benefits from that. We'll stay hard and true to that model.

Rajat Gupta
Analyst, JPMorgan

Got it. Great. Congrats again, and I look forward to hearing next month.

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Glenn Chin with Seaport Research Partners.

Glenn Chin
Analyst, Seaport Research Partners

Good morning, gentlemen, ladies. Congratulations.

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Thanks, Glenn.

Glenn Chin
Analyst, Seaport Research Partners

Just some questions around your network and footprint. First, do you anticipate any pushback from the OEMs relative to your framework agreements? Do you anticipate having to dispose of any stores?

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Sure. I'll take that question, Glenn. We have already had some light conversations with some of the manufacturers. I can't stress it enough. We're a franchisee, and our lifeline is our manufacturer partners, and we value that. We will always align with them. We'll work through this process with them. I couldn't sit here today and tell you, will one store be sold, two stores or no stores? Our intent is to acquire the whole group and not sell anything. Through thoughtful conversations over the next two months and aligning with our partners and what's in their best interest would be great. There may be one framework with one manufacturer that'll bump into an issue, but the rest of it is more about conversation.

Glenn Chin
Analyst, Seaport Research Partners

Okay. To be clear, David, this does include the entirety of the Larry H. Miller enterprise. There's no one or two stores that were left behind?

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

That's correct. It includes all of their franchise stores, all their collision centers, all their standalone used car stores that they have. It also includes Total Care and Saxton Horne, which is their advertising agency.

Glenn Chin
Analyst, Seaport Research Partners

Okay. Given your new pro forma brand and geographic footprint, any areas where you think you still need filling out, David?

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Yeah. I would tell you it's the right way to look at it. I would say, we've talked about wanting to enter into Colorado and Arizona and Utah and certain states. There have been other stores and things that have come up for sale in these states that we just didn't participate in. It's the state and the operation or the folks that own the business to see if there's alignment there. We like these brands, and we showed the top 10. There are no luxury brands in the top 10 in these seven states from a volume perspective. How we grow it out, there isn't a plan. We want two more of these brands, three more. We don't look at things that way. We look more at the people in the organization and say, is it a good fit for us?

There are certain states that we try to avoid, not because there aren't a lot of car sales there or good people there, but sometimes between the franchise laws and state laws, and then your actual fixed costs. one of the biggest benefits of the franchise model system is it's like an accordion on the expense side. Most of your expenses are collapsible, you can really adjust to economic conditions. When you operate in some of the more expensive states, you cannot run your fixed expense. We really try to be thoughtful about where we grow and scale.

Glenn Chin
Analyst, Seaport Research Partners

Okay. Then last question, sort of the other side of a question that was asked earlier. I don't suppose there's anybody from Larry H. Miller on the call, but my question would be, why now? I don't suppose you could speak on their behalf. Is it fairly priced or do they see writing on the wall with upcoming investment, risk from EVs or investment required for EVs, et cetera, or operating capabilities?

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

I understand your question. I've been in the automobile business 35 years, actually 36 in December. I have so much respect for this organization and what that family has built and what they've done. I would never speak on their behalf. I'm sure at the appropriate time, they'll discuss it. In any conversations I've had with them, I wouldn't be willing to share. I just don't think that's respectful or appropriate.

Glenn Chin
Analyst, Seaport Research Partners

Perfectly understood. Okay, very good. Thanks again and congratulations, all.

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Stephanie Moore with Truist.

Stephanie Moore
Director Equity Research, Truist

Hi, good morning. Just wanted to talk a little bit on the synergy opportunity with the acquisitions today. I think you're immediately looking at some day one cost savings. Maybe talk through some of those and maybe the opportunity in the future as you looked at this deal for additional synergies. I know you mentioned some revenue synergies just with, in particular, the Click lane opportunity and TCA. If you could talk a little bit more on the cost side, that'd be helpful. Thank you.

Michael Welch
CFO, Asbury Automotive Group

On the cost side, that's just taking two large organizations and merging that into one. Some of the, I'll call the high level management overhead cost at the top of the house just comes out with that. We also have some opportunities in used vehicles and things like that to deal with, but most of it's just the cost of that kind of dual management structure on two large companies, and that just comes out of the mix kind of day one. The synergies are more the opportunities in Click lane, and then also in TCA rolling out to the Asbury model. Again, those are not baked into the numbers that we've put out there. The only thing we baked in were kind of the day one cost synergies and a little bit of growth in both used vehicle and fixed ops.

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

I'll add on to that just to clarify. Like the Park Place acquisition, we don't go in there and eliminate people. We take on everybody because the success of the organization is the people, and our intent, we will do the same here. When Michael talks about the top of the house, he's referring to naturally the family, and the executive team that sat over Miller Enterprise and all the different businesses that they have. The senior leadership, their CEO of automotive and their entire management team, we clearly want them, and we value them and what they've built and respect that and just simply want to partner with them. Our opportunity is bringing great minds together and growing the business thoughtfully, sharing Clicklane and other things that we can learn from each other that benefits the employees and certainly the guests.

We think like any, the best business in the world has tremendous opportunity, and that's what we strive for every day. How do we be better tomorrow than we were today?

Stephanie Moore
Director Equity Research, Truist

No, absolutely. That's helpful. First is just a housekeeping item. Can you give us what the new and used mix is for the Larry H. Miller franchises? Also, maybe as you looked at this, was there anything on potentially the service side or used side that you thought that they did better that you could adopt across your footprint or maybe vice versa and an opportunity to expand there? I think under the Park Place deal, there was some opportunity to enhance some of the service capabilities using their method. Anything you learned there would be helpful.

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Sure. The 115,000 unit sales, the way that breaks down is basically 0.8 - 1 is the used ratio, used to new ratio. You can figure out the calculation there. This is an extremely well-run group. Their F&I numbers are strong, their parts and service numbers are strong, their sales numbers are strong, their profitability is strong. Having said that, and I'm sure they would say this as well, there's always an opportunity for more and to get better. That'll be the fun part of working together to creatively figure out how do we get better? How do we raise our service retention numbers? We're excited to be here today. We're arming for the opportunity, but there's a lot of work to do.

It's very easy to look at a P&L and see a number that looks off or doesn't look right or sees opportunity. You first have to seek to understand. The first thing we'll do is spend time and see the world through their eyes, and align with them and figure out how we can grow the business thoughtfully.

Stephanie Moore
Director Equity Research, Truist

Got it. Well, thank you so much.

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Bret Jordan with Jefferies.

Bret Jordan
Managing Director, Jefferies

Hey, good morning, guys.

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Morning.

Bret Jordan
Managing Director, Jefferies

On TCA, is there any, I guess sort of penetration color you could give us? Does that product work particularly well with midline or luxury? Does VSC sell better in one place than another?

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Yeah. We don't want to break into specifics, but what I'll tell you is their overall service contract penetration numbers are higher than Asbury. These two companies, even though they're in separate silos, are so intertwined so perfectly, and they feed off each other extremely well. If you think about it, and spending time with them, they've educated me. This really helps in their retention of their customer base. It's really a win-win to be able to control the claims process and take care of your customers is powerful, because the average dealer can't do that.

Bret Jordan
Managing Director, Jefferies

Okay, great. I think you addressed this, but the $900 million under contract, there's no barrier to closing that prior to 2023 when your leverage ratio is below three, right? You're willing to go higher on leverage nearer term to do those deals?

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

The leverage ratio that we quoted includes the spend on those acquisitions already. That's kind of baked into that overall leverage number.

Bret Jordan
Managing Director, Jefferies

Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from David Whiston with Morningstar Equity Research.

David Whiston
Analyst, Morningstar

Thanks. Good morning. Staying on that service theme from the last question, not knowing Total Care myself, can you help me understand something like if a customer enters into that contract, are they much more likely to then have their vehicle serviced by that exact same dealership where they bought the vehicle? Are they locked into that dealership, or can they go to, let's say, any Toyota dealer to still do it?

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Sure. It's a professional standalone insurance company that covers the consumer anywhere they go within the U.S. They can take their vehicle anywhere. Again, because most people live local, service local, they're right around 90% retention as it relates to the service contract claims. For every 100 claims, 90 of them come back through the LHM organization or franchise stores. On average, 10% will seek other avenues, whether they're out of state, they moved away or they're on travel, wherever they're doing.

David Whiston
Analyst, Morningstar

That's for all service work, or just if there's an accident collision repair or?

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Yeah. When you talk about service contracts, it's for mechanical breakdown. Now they sell prepaid maintenance plans where the consumers purchase those plans and naturally come back for the prepaid maintenance that they already paid for. The service contract is for mechanical breakdown. Example, if you buy a new car and a year later you have a warranty issue, you bring it back to the dealership for the warranty issue. These extended plans basically take that beyond their warranty period. When there is a mechanical breakdown, they would bring it back and be serviced at an LHM store.

David Whiston
Analyst, Morningstar

The customer doesn't have to go to an LHM store, right?

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

That's correct. Yeah.

David Whiston
Analyst, Morningstar

Okay.

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Yeah, that's correct. Yeah. Their 90% retention rate, as far as that goes, only speaks to the level of service and the consumers wanting to do business there. As a reference again on slide six, for the 54 franchise stores and seven used car stores, there's over 2 million outstanding contracts. It's a big dense business.

David Whiston
Analyst, Morningstar

Okay. Earlier, I think it was your last question to Rajat, you were talking about used vehicles and the value of selling those at the franchise stores. Do you want to keep the used only stores you're buying?

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Oh, absolutely. Yeah. It's part of their culture. It's part of their DNA. It fits into the fabric of who they are. When we acquire something, our goal is not to have them align with us. It's us to align with them. Every opportunity in an acquisition is an opportunity for us to learn and grow and align with them. When we go out and acquire something, we're buying it because of their business model and how they operate. We're not going to start to move the furniture around.

David Whiston
Analyst, Morningstar

Okay. Can you just speak at a high level as to how this deal came about? If you guys had maybe approached Gail and her family, or her or a broker approached you? Did this happen over a couple of years or quickly?

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Yeah. I would say they were represented by JP Morgan. I couldn't honestly tell you how many different parties they talked to get to this point. Again, it wouldn't be fair for me to say. I don't have inside information to know that answer anyhow, but the transaction was facilitated by JP Morgan, and either them or the Miller family would have to let you know that answer.

David Whiston
Analyst, Morningstar

Okay. I just want to clarify something on the 2025 guidance. It sounds like what you were saying earlier in the call that you're going to update in January, but for now, you're just going to remain very conservative on the outlook. Is that fair?

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

I think it's stated, David. We've exceeded the acquisition target. We haven't closed on it yet. Our assumption is that we close on it. It's a busy year at acquisitions. There's a lot for the manufacturers to process these deals. It's extremely important to us that we close everything before the end of the year, and that's our main focus. That's where all our priority is going to be. We have our core group of stores running the business every day, performing extremely well, putting best in class operating margins out there quarter after quarter. That's not going to change. We want to focus on integrating these stores at this point in time. When we get them integrated and we close by the end of the year, I think January is the logical time to update that five year plan.

Right now it's getting ahead of ourselves because we haven't closed on any of this.

David Whiston
Analyst, Morningstar

Okay. You did say the $900 million of other revenue closes before Larry Miller?

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

That's correct.

David Whiston
Analyst, Morningstar

Okay. Thanks a lot.

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's Q&A. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Hult for closing remarks.

David Hult
President and CEO, Asbury Automotive Group

Thank you very much. We're very thrilled and excited to be here today. We're looking forward to this transaction and bringing on a lot of great new team members to our organization. We appreciate the opportunity and the stewardship. We appreciate your time on the call today and look forward to talking to you soon on our next earnings call. Have a great day.

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today's teleconference. You may now disconnect.

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