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Investor Day 2013

Oct 8, 2013

Operator

The video webcast has begun. Please welcome back Managing Director, Investor Relations, Accenture, KC McClure.

KC McClure
Managing Director of Investor Relations, Accenture

Let me welcome everybody that has joined us in the webcast, as well as those of you back from our brief break. I'm KC McClure, Managing Director of Investor Relations. For those of you who have joined us today via the webcast, you will be able to find the remarks from the earlier part of the session posted to the investor relations section of our website. We expect to have those posted over the next couple of days. I would like to remind you that some of the matters we will discuss in today's conference constitute forward-looking statements relating to Accenture's operations and results. We wish to caution investors not to place undue reliance on any such forward-looking statements. Any statements other than statements of historical fact may be forward-looking statements.

These forward-looking statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in the presentations and are not a guarantee of our future performance. Such risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, general economic conditions and those factors set forth under the Risk Factors section of our annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q and other documents filed or furnished to the Securities and Exchange Commission. As always, Accenture assumes no obligation to update any statements made in these presentations or to conform such statements to actual results or changes in Accenture's assumptions and expectations. I would also like to remind you that we will not be providing you with an update for or making comments related to our first quarter of fiscal 2014.

With that, let me turn it over to our CFO, David Rowland.

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

Thank you, KC McClure. Let me start by saying how excited I am to have the opportunity to speak with you this morning. Of course, I've known many of you in my previous role, and for those of you that I haven't known, I've had the opportunity to meet quite a few of you over the last four or five months as I've been traveling around transitioning into the CFO role. Certainly there's nothing like the opportunity to talk to you all at once and to have the opportunity to answer your questions in a live forum.

I hear our leaders talk about our growth strategy quite often, I have to say that no matter how many times I hear it, I'm struck by the level of focus, clarity, and distinctiveness reflected in our strategy and the degree to which we're truly unique in the breadth and diversity of what we do. As distinctive and compelling as our strategy is, as CFO, I know that it's only meaningful if it ultimately translates into strong financial results and an attractive value proposition for our shareholders. This morning, I want to anchor back to the business outlook that I provided on our earnings call just two weeks ago to provide some additional color around our rationale and to talk more broadly about what we're focused on to drive shareholder value in a way that we think is truly differentiated.

Following my comments, Pierre Nanterme will join me on the stage, or on my stage perhaps, for some Q&A where we'll do our best to answer your questions. Let me start by just briefly summarizing the key elements of our business outlook. Starting with bookings, our range of $32 billion-$35 billion aligns with our revenue guidance, as you would expect, with an overall book-to-bill of 1.1-1.2, which is very similar to what we delivered in 2013. We expect to see a continued strong contribution from large mega deals as we drive the transformation and business services agenda that you heard about this morning. Regarding revenues, we see a range of 2%-6% growth in local currency, with the midpoint of that range being essentially identical to the 4.2% growth that we delivered in 2013.

We see continued stronger contribution from outsourcing growth, with consulting growth being roughly flattish to modestly stronger than the 1% growth we delivered in 2013. We're targeting continued expansion in our operating margin of 10-30 basis points, importantly, expect to continue to drive more significant improvements in our underlying cost structure so that we can fund the investment program that Shawn Collinson alluded to earlier this morning while still delivering our margin expansion. Our EPS range of $4.42-$4.54 reflects 5%-8% growth in US dollars, higher than our revenue growth, and includes an FX drag of about 1%, as well as a higher tax rate in 2014 compared to the unusually low tax rate that we had in 2013.

We see cash flow in the range of $3.2 billion-$3.5 billion, which allows for the possibility of some increase in DSO, but still reflects very strong cash flow in absolute terms. I've had several people ask me about my philosophy on providing guidance. Let me just say again that our philosophy on setting guidance has not changed at all. We're not trying to be overly conservative or overly aggressive. We're simply trying to be balanced, as always, call it as we see it. Since I've been CFO, I've been asked several times about our three key financial goals and specifically whether or not they continue to represent our ambition. The answer is yes, consistent with what you've seen in past years, it doesn't mean that we'll meet all objectives each and every year.

For 2014 specifically, our guidance is clearly aligned with the first and third objectives, growing faster than the market and maintaining a strong balance sheet and cash flow while returning a substantial amount of our cash to our shareholders via buybacks and dividend. Regarding the second objective, double-digit EPS growth, this is a year where our outlook is below double-digit growth, but still reflects EPS growth higher than revenue growth. This year, we face a headwind with both FX and tax rate. Our revenue growth range is a little lower than in past years based on how we see the market growth. All of that puts us below double-digit growth, just below double-digit growth on the upper end of the range.

In a market with higher growth rates than we've seen in 2013 and expect to see in 2014, with less of a headwind on FX and tax rate, we certainly think it's possible to deliver double-digit growth in years in the future. These goals, which have been consistent since we've been a public company, continue to guide us going forward. We'll work hard to achieve them over time. Let's talk a little bit more about how we see the market in 2014 and how that shapes our revenue range of 2%-6%. It goes without saying that this is the element of our guidance that has certainly been the focal point of most of the discussions we've had around earnings.

Let me start by saying, as Pierre said this morning, that we are a growth-oriented company. Everything you heard today clearly illustrates that point. I can assure you that our management team focuses 24 by 7 on what we need to do to drive profitable growth. It's in our DNA, it's embedded in our culture. As we said on the call, the reality is that market growth, as we measure it, has slowed in 2013 as compared to the previous two years. You can see that on the left-hand side of this slide.

We're talking about market growth using our analytical framework for how we track the addressable market, which we refer to as the basket, where we take roughly 35-40 competitors that we have carefully selected out of this large, fragmented market, which represents about 40% of the market, and we track the growth of Accenture relative to that basket or what we refer to as our addressable market. Importantly, you can also see on the left-hand side of this chart, on 2013, we continued our trend of growing faster than the market. In fact, 1.7 times the market while gaining share in many areas of our business.

In terms of the operating groups, to reiterate what we said on the earnings call, H&PS and Financial Services continue to be very well-positioned for growth above the Accenture average in FY 2014, but we'll start a little slower in Q1 with growth building throughout the year. Products will continue to deliver a very consistent and solid performance. We have CMT and Resources, which continue to stabilize and are positioned to deliver overall positive growth for the year. To summarize, we think 2%-6% is the right range for the market as we see it. I can assure you that we're working every minute of every day to land as high in that range as we possibly can. In any event, we're focused on two important objectives during this period of lower market growth.

First, as we've said many times, to grow faster than the market and take share. Second, as we've also said, to invest for growth so that we're positioned to accelerate on the upturn. If we can do those two things, we can be confident that we're positioning the business in the best possible way for the long term. We know that all of this is really only relevant if it translates into a strong track record of creating shareholder value. I think on this front, it's fair to say that we have delivered. As we've matured as a public company, our shareholder value model has evolved from one that was initially solely dependent on share appreciation for the first five years or so, to one that has become increasingly balanced with both share appreciation and dividend return contributing to our value proposition.

That's exactly where we want to be and how we see our model playing out going forward. Revenue growth above market will continue to be a major contributor to our EPS growth, combined with continued modest margin expansion, proactively managing the efficiency of our tax structure, and continuing our efforts to reduce the share count over time. Of course, dividends will continue to be an important part of returning cash to shareholders. I think the track record speaks for itself. We've delivered a total shareholder return CAGR of 15% since becoming a public company, which is about three times the average return for the S&P 500 over that same period. To further illustrate the point, our strong shareholder return performance has been even more evident in the most recent three years.

You can see that in the trailing three fiscal years, our total shareholder return CAGR is 28%, well above both our competitor group and the S&P 500 over that same three-year period. While we all know that historical performance does not guarantee future performance, this clearly illustrates that we understand how to drive value for our shareholders by leveraging our strong position in the marketplace and managing our business and our assets in a manner that is shareholder-focused and drives strong returns. An important element of our business model and truly a distinguishing characteristic of Accenture is our ability to generate strong cash flows. There are many elements of our business culture that have survived and thrived as we've moved from a private partnership to a public company. Perhaps one of the most important is our strong owner-operator culture and our understanding of the importance of cash.

This culture is the key ingredient that has allowed us to manage our DSOs at industry-leading levels, which has been a key contributor to our strong cash flow. We've generated roughly $28 billion of free cash flow since IPO. Throughout that period, we've generated cash flow in excess of our net income. Of course, there are a number of factors that impact the relationship between cash flow and net income in any particular fiscal year, but structurally, we continue to drive a business with very strong cash flows. Most importantly, we know how to put our cash to work in a way that creates value for our shareholders while still investing in the business. As we've discussed before, all of this is underpinned by a very strong capital allocation model, which continues to guide our decisions on how we allocate our capital.

The fundamental tenet of the model is that we allocate capital as required to support growth in our business. Then return surplus capital to our shareholders through both dividends and buybacks. On the shareholder return front, I announced on our earnings call that we would return a minimum of $3.7 billion to shareholders in fiscal 2014. As part of that, we announced a 15% increase in our first dividend to be paid out this year. We continue to think in terms of roughly a 2 to 1 ratio of repurchases to dividend. We believe this ratio gives us the right level of flexibility as we move forward. I think you would agree that overall our statements and what we're targeting in 2014 reflect a continuation of our past track record, where we've returned 93% of our free cash flow to shareholders since we've been a public company.

While it's not on this slide, just to round out our capital allocation model, we continue to target roughly 10% of our operating cash flow to capital expenditures with roughly 15% to acquisitions. Of course, with our cash position, we can ramp up our acquisition capital as we did in 2013, should the need arise. Overall, we continue to have a very flexible, sustainable capital allocation model underpinned by strong cash flows and a relatively capital-light business. To briefly summarize, there are really four points that I wanted to reinforce, and I want you to take away from my comments. First, our three financial goals continue to be very relevant and reflect how we are trying to drive the business going forward.

Recognize that we will go through varying cycles of growth just as we have in the past, and as it relates to our 2014 guidance, it's in the context of how we see market growth playing out in our fiscal 2014. Second, we continue to raise our game investing for growth. We're balancing driving near-term results while investing in our business at even higher levels to position us in the best possible way for the long term. Third, we have a balanced model for driving shareholder return and a track record for delivering industry-leading results. Fourth, we know how to generate cash, and we know what to do with it. There's no doubt we have to work hard to continue our track record of strong results.

We don't take anything for granted and certainly nothing is given to us in the market, but I feel really good about our business, our strategy, our leadership team, our level of focus, and how we're positioned for the future. With that, let me invite Pierre to join me on the stage and we'll take some of your questions.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

Many hands being raised. Thanks a lot, David. You've been crystal clear. Okay, let's get started. Front to back.

David Togut
Analyst, Evercore Partners

Thank you. David Togut with Evercore Partners. David, you alluded to some long-term cost savings initiatives in your remarks. Two questions. First is there more headroom to expand margins beyond the 10 to 30 basis points you're targeting for fiscal 2014?

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

The answer is that we could do a lot of things to expand margins further if we were just solving for producing results in a current quarter or a current year. What we're trying to do is to strike the right balance between having a sustainable level of margin expansion that supports the three overriding financial goals that we have, while still giving us the capacity to invest in our business to position ourselves for the long term. What we've always been about is finding the balance between investing in the business and then driving that modest margin expansion in a sustainable way over time. If we just wanted to turn up the dials and drive higher margin and solve for a quarter or solve for a year, we could always do that, but that's not in the best long-term interest.

David Togut
Analyst, Evercore Partners

Just as a quick follow-up, what was the contracted backlog for Accenture as of August 31st, and how much was backlog up year-over-year?

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

That question did not get asked on the big call, so I'm glad you asked it here because several people asked it in subsequent discussions and we had not commented. I think Julie, now in this forum, I can say anything that I want to say, right? The contracted revenues over the next 12-month period were up about 7% year-over-year, so above the upper end of our revenue growth range. I will say that we started providing this contracted revenue growth, I don't know, several years ago. On one hand, we're happy to provide it. On the other hand, I do think that there's probably been some confusion coming from that, because that is just one element of the revenue growth equation. We obviously, on top of that, it's how does that backlog actually convert to revenue?

Also the issue of the work that we sell and then the characteristics of that work and the pace and timing at which it converts to revenue. It's a multi-part equation of which that is one element, but the answer is 7%.

David Togut
Analyst, Evercore Partners

Thank you.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

Let's take the first row. We will move up. We have time.

Steve Milunovich
Analyst, UBS

I'll make a quick question. Steve Milunovich at UBS.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

Hey, Steve.

Steve Milunovich
Analyst, UBS

Your capital structure arguably is suboptimal. You have no debt, which is a great position to be in. Is there a point at which you would, in addition to your investment, take your capital return to another level and perhaps use debt to repurchase stock? Are you keeping the powder dry because of potentially larger M&A?

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

As you would expect, you would certainly expect of Accenture, we look at our capital structure real time. At least once a year, we go through and look at our capacity for debt, and the logic of using or not using debt with the finance committee of our board. We look at that, we assess it, we evaluate it, and we do it in a very thoughtful way. The reality is that if you look at what our track record is, we have returned a significant amount of cash to our shareholders through buybacks and dividends. We've done that using the strong cash flow that we have in our business.

As we see it right now, as long as our cash flow supports what we need to do to return cash to shareholders at very healthy levels, while still allowing us to invest in our business, we're investing at even higher levels, we think we've got the right strategy. The thing about Accenture is that we have a strong overall financial position, and we have a lot of levers that if we ever need them, we could play those things out over time. We do look at it very thoughtfully. It's something that we do spend some time thinking about.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

Thank you. Another question.

Keith Bachman
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Hi. Keith Bachman from Bank of Montreal. I wanted to dive in a little bit to the M&A strategy again. First, a clarification. It looks like two deals that you've just recently done, Procurian and Acquity, are about 100 basis points alone, yet you did four or five deals at the end of the year. You've guided this year for M&A to be about 100 basis points, but either those four or five other smaller companies contribute very little to no revenue, or it's more than 100 basis points of revenue that you're going to get in FY 2014. I was hoping you could just clarify with the deal that you did last week, was that in the 100 basis points guidance, or was that on top of it?

Then if we branch out longer term, follow to Steve's question, it looks like you're continuing to forecast the growth of the market to be a little slower. Would M&A form in a more important part of your longer term growth? In other words, could investors think about M&A contributing more than 100 basis points, 1-2 points, as we look out over the next couple of years? Thank you.

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

Maybe I'll give a couple.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

Yeah

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

Would you like to start first?

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

Yeah. I can start maybe answering the second part of your question, it will lead to David how things been factored in the guidance. First, to make sure we're all on the same page, our growth strategy is organic. We grow organic at Accenture, and there is no change with that. Second is how we're using our capital to accelerate, if you will, the execution of our strategy. Through the execution of our strategy, we're going to capture more growth. This is the way. We're not going to grow inorganic at Accenture. What we do is, as mentioned by the team, Shawn and the others, we are trying to find the new spaces for growth. This is what we highlighted this morning.

We are using our capital in a very targeted way to identify where there is outside some capabilities, companies that could help us accelerating the access to new markets. This is what we did in digital marketing with avVenta, Fjord, Acquity to set a few. That's what we do. So far, this is our mental model. We do not have at all the objective to grow inorganic, but to continue using acquisition in a way to execute our strategy, and that going to be a contribution of and grow organic on top of the organic. This is the mental model, I think it was very well said by Brian in Accenture Interactive. We don't grow inorganic. We made those acquisitions, we grow significantly on an organic standpoint. You want to answer the first part?

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

Yeah. I would just say, I guess very straightly that we just provided guidance a week ago. We don't update guidance during the quarter based on any individual transaction. If you look at Procurian in the context of our overall business, it's big in terms of the type of acquisitions we do, but it's not that big in the context of our overall revenue stream. The other thing I would tell you is that, to be clear, about 1% of revenue is what we said, which is plus or minus. The other thing is that we get the question asked a lot, but really without probably defining it so that we know what we're talking to each other about. Let me just put it out there right now.

When we look at inorganic growth, first of all, as Pierre said, we do inorganic as a means to fuel organic growth. Things that we buy, Procurian would be a great example, almost from day one are embedded in the core of our business. When we measure inorganic growth, we look at acquisitions that we've done over a trailing four-quarter, kind of a rolling trailing four-quarter period, that's how we think about inorganic. We think of it as inorganic the first year post-transaction, after that, it's just part of our business. With that methodology for how we talk about inorganic, our guidance around about 1% is the same.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

Yeah. That's good to reflect the way how we are looking at this, and then after one year, it's part of the core.

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

Yes.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

Yep. Rod.

Rod Bourgeois
Analyst, Sanford C. Bernstein

Great. Rod Bourgeois here with Sanford C. Bernstein. A two-part question about growth, maybe the first part of it for Pierre and the second part. You can arm wrestle over who answers the second part.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

Yeah.

Rod Bourgeois
Analyst, Sanford C. Bernstein

If global GDP growth were to accelerate, call it a couple of hundred basis points, do you feel like Accenture is positioned to return its revenue growth in constant currency back to the upper single digits? That's the first part of the question. Can you get back to upper single digits growth if the world's economy gets better? The second part, in the last year, your fiscal 2013 revenue growth was below your original forecast for the year. Was more aggressive competition part of what hurt the growth during the year, or was it all due to cyclical factors in certain parts of the world?

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

Yeah. Okay. We'll let you, David, maybe answer the second one.

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

Yeah

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

what happened last year and was it cyclical or other factors? Our life would be easier with a stronger economy, period. That's what that is. Indeed, you have, I'm not talking about Accenture, but more broadly about the industry, you have a kind of direct correlation between the industrial growth, the GDP growth, the IT market, and at the end of the day, what we do. Yes, as we speak, we are in a cycle of lower economic growth. 2.3 in 2013, 2.2.3. In 2014, I don't believe that the economists are planning anything which going to be much, much better than this. We are in this cycle of lower economic growth. Indeed, you're starting to see how it's reflected in the basket, what we're calling the basket, and you see the move to a lower as well growth.

That's why, at the end of the day, we are fighting, if you will, in that environment. Our objective is to continue gain share at the core of our business. At the same time, this is what we wanted to illustrate this morning, we are investing for the future to build stronger position in new territories and new ways of growth. Should the environment be better, we believe that indeed we would benefit from that effect.

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

Yeah, on the second one, I think the question is to what extent did increased competition impact our revenue growth in 2013? I would say that the competitive landscape, as we talked about on the quarterly calls, didn't change. It continued to be highly competitive. That was not a driver to our revenue results in 2013. The challenge that we had in 2013 is that we had these few concentrated areas of weakness. If you look at our five operating groups, which I think is always the best way really to look at our business, and if you take the three that grew above the Accenture average, Financial Services, H&PS, and Products. Those three operating groups in total, and these are numbers you could calculate as well, grew 8% at the upper end of the original range that we guided to.

What we didn't expect was that CMT and Resources would have negative growth for the year. You may remember that in the case of those two operating groups, we had called out the fourth quarter of the previous year, the fact that they both had large contracts that were winding down. One, we have referred to the large communications client in-

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

Europe

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

Europe. In the case of Resources, we had referred to a couple of large scale programs winding down at the end of 2012 we thought would be replaced and were not replaced at the level that they expected, we expected. Which has nothing to do, by the way, with anything that is secular in nature. That doesn't have anything to do with cloud, doesn't have anything to do with SaaS. That is two operating groups, and within those operating groups, a couple of industries where we had some concentrated, more challenging characteristics from a geographic standpoint, Brazil, Southern Europe, and Japan. We had a year like I don't remember seeing where we had a little bit more extreme in terms of significant chunks of our business doing very, very well, but a few concentrated areas of weakness that netted out to the number of 4.2% for the year.

Which was still faster than the market, it was just lower than our original guidance. Yes?

Ashwin Shirvaikar
Analyst, Citi

Ashwin Shirvaikar from Citi. Thank you for today's presentations. Also a two-part question on growth. I guess the first one is on M&A. We've written about your acquisition strategy. We kind of like it. The one part that you did not address today was with regards to what's the right valuation metrics in your mind for what you pay for these acquisitions. For example, Procurian, you could kind of say 2.5 to 3 times revenues. Is that sort of how you look at it? The second one, David, in your presentation, the multiple of your growth to basket growth has decelerated over time. What is the cause for that in your mind?

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

Yeah.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

I can take, Kevin.

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

Go ahead.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

I take it. If all of you have two questions, I mean, it's going to take a little bit longer. I understand the new trick around the two questions now. That's a good try. I mean, good. From an M&A standpoint, I'm talking with some of our board members who are part of our finance committee, and they are looking at this, as you might imagine, with maximum rigor and discipline. We are very thoughtful to make sure that we are going after the right opportunities, and we are paying exactly the right price. Our philosophy is to go after quality acquisitions. The point for us is not to pay cheap to have something poor. It's to pay the right price to have a quality acquisition we're going to build on.

As you heard, it's for us, it's going to be the nucleus, if you will, for future organic growth. We are really looking for quality acquisition. From a multiple standpoint, as you know very well, it really depends on the kind of acquisition you're making. If you're more on a pure people-based acquisition, then you're going to be one times the revenue or even less if it's a pure people. If you're going to the 100% software, then you might get to who knows what. You see some of the transaction and the multiple may be five, six, seven, I mean, 10 sometimes. You're in the hybrid, an organization which are more a mix of people, I mean, what we've been doing with the BPO, and you get into the kind of valuation.

First, we are looking at that extremely carefully, with the best advisors, if you will, making sure we're looking at the other transaction. We are extremely disciplined regarding the business case. Again, I'm looking to our board members, not making our life easy, but are very fair in questioning us, to make sure that we have a robust business case. Of course, we'll not share with you the kind of metrics we are using and the hurdle rates we're putting there. Believe us, they are very strict to understand where we're putting our threshold. We are extraordinarily disciplined, including the look back we're making to the acquisitions. Again, the multiple is just a factor of which segment, people, hybrid or pure software. That's what it is.

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

Yeah, on your second question, you are exactly right in your conclusion. If you think about it's pretty intuitive. Our experience has been historically that during periods of lower market growth, our multiple to the market is not as great as it is during more robust periods where the multiple is greater. Intuitively, as you would think about it, the reason is that when the market is not growing as much, you've got more people fighting for a smaller pie. Our ability to grow faster than the market, while we have done it, is a little bit less than what it is in more robust markets. That's been our historical pattern.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

I think we have one here, we will move from right to left, which is what we used to do in France as well.

Speaker 11

Hi, a quick one, a little bit longer one. You have an ambitious goal to distribute, or you've historically distributed 93% of free cash flow to shareholders. What percentage of free cash flow is generated domestically to support that strategy, especially since it seems like you're guiding you're going to be distributing more than 100% of your cash flow this coming year? A little bit more in detail on the M&A. Should we look at the M&A that you do after guidance is released to be additive to the constant currency guidance, or should we be thinking of that as reducing the implicit organic growth rate? Might it be better to guide in an organic constant currency growth rate as opposed to just a constant currency growth rate to make these questions not as frequent or annoying?

finally, you talk about the.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

I'm counting four now.

Speaker 11

just the guidance of inorganic seems to be 12 months, is that really the right timeframe given that the written off revenue in backlog is contracted usually longer than 12 months? might you want to extend the timeframe when that revenue gets rebooked?

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

maybe long questions.

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

Yeah, let me just.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

A short answer.

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

I'll just pick off what I remember.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

Yeah.

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

The first thing is that without getting overly specific, we allow for some level of speculative or future acquisitions when we structure our guidance. I guess I'll leave that one there. In terms of we're not going to guide by organic and inorganic. Truthfully, a lot of companies don't even provide the revenue guidance that we provide, much less that level of detail, that's not a path we're going to go down. I don't know if there are any others that you want to pick up?

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

No. I see a lot of interest around how we're using inorganic in order to accelerate our differentiation and our growth. It's a good opportunity for us that to the question, are we indeed stepping up a little bit compared to what we used to do in the past to use acquisition as a kind of strategic approach to access to unique capabilities? The answer is yes. We've always been very clear that we want to deploy around 15% of our free cash flow every year around acquisitions. This is what we did these last couple of years, a little bit less. This year we did a little bit more. We're still there. It's still the same strategy. The acquisitions we are making are all part of the core.

In the BPO, they are part of the core. That's the philosophy we have, we continue to grow organic on top of this inorganic thing. Yes, we are stepping up. No, we are not changing our philosophy or suddenly we're going to grow inorganic, or it's going to have a material impact on our annual growth. It's not a change of that philosophy. We're just stepping up.

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

Yeah. I appreciate the question, we're not going to talk about sources of cash flow by geographic markets either. We have a very well thought out, very robust cash management program. Scott Ahlstrom, our Treasurer, is here somewhere. That's the level of granularity that we won't comment on.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

Let's move to another part. Who's got questions? Raise your hand here.

Speaker 11

You won't be surprised that I have a question on M&A. Just as it relates to margins.

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

Yeah.

Speaker 11

What's your philosophy in terms of when you would expect a recent acquisition to become accretive? Assuming it's not day one, what are you doing this year to offset the fact that a point or two of the four points of growth is coming from acquisitions that might be dilutive?

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

Yeah.

Speaker 11

Still grow earnings and margins faster than revenue.

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

Yeah. The period to margin accretion varies from deal to deal, as you would imagine. We don't have a definitive expectation that it gets there by a certain month. We just look at that as one of many considerations when we're looking at the financial metrics of a deal. In terms of what we're doing to absorb any dilutive effect of deals this year, it's all in the mix. When we talk about investments, one of the buckets of investments we talk about that we would include would be the dilutive effect of early-stage acquisitions, if you will. This headroom that we're creating in our P&L, when we talk about doing that to cover investments, it includes that dilutive effect. The things that we focus on in creating efficiency in our P&L are the things that, frankly, you've heard us talk about in the past.

We are constantly working on ways to improve our delivery efficiency and improve our contract margins. We have an ongoing focus on our channel cost, our selling cost efficiency. We have an ongoing focus on our corporate functions, our finance, HR, et cetera. We have a continued focus on the efficiency of our footprint of office space and geographic services around the world. We're looking at how do we evolve our training delivery to the next stage of evolution that will be more effective but more impactful, but also has some cost efficiency. We look at things like travel. We're a very virtual organization. We embrace virtual technology extensively. You see some illustration of that even here. We have a lot of things in our cost structure that we continue to push on to drive this cost efficiency, and we do that to do things, including absorbing our acquisitions.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

It's very clear because, again, I see and why you're asking the question, and they are very valid, that you've seen a kind of evolution in the way we've been deploying our capital. Again, no change. With that level of acquisition, we will not come back on our operating margin expansion. We always said we're going to drive modest margin expansion, return on capital. It's been very clear. We do not believe that that level of acquisition is changing anything in our ability to drive modest margin expansion. We believe that we have the opportunity at Accenture every year to drive more efficiency to absorb this. As a routine, you heard Bhaskar driving efficiencies through intelligent IT in the GD, and you heard Manish, what he's doing with the BPO.

All of us were Joerg Blechschmidt, our COO, together with David and myself, how we're driving more efficiency in operations every day. We believe we can absorb that level of acquisition without creating any dilution. Yes?

Ashish Subbaraman
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Hi, this is Ashish Subbaraman from Deutsche Bank. A quick question around the technology transition, does it create any potential pockets of weakness? The growth initiatives are growing high double digits. They are approaching $1 billion or higher. Maybe the legacy businesses like the SAP and Oracle may have slowed down a bit, some of its cyclicality. Does that technology transition accentuate, in some sense, the macro weakness that you're seeing? If it is, how long do you expect that pocket of weakness to last? These growth initiatives become big enough to offset any weakness in the legacy businesses? Thanks.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

Yeah. This is what we are managing. First, I would say cycle of lower growth. This is what we've seen with the basket and so forth. Here, our response is, of course, we will never give up when we see a cycle of lower growth. The point is, the response is to be more competitive to win more of what's out there. This is exactly what, again, Bhaskar is doing by making our global delivery network more productive. This is what he said. We can win more on the traditional, if you will, IT, including ERP on what's out there. Indeed, the second factor, if you will, we are facing is the technology transition. Here, the name of the game is to invest to make sure we are capturing these waves.

That was one of the topic of this morning, this is exactly what we do with Accenture Analytics, Accenture Interactive, Accenture Cloud, Accenture Mobility, plus the business services we're launching. We're fighting on the core to improve our win rates and win more what's out there. We're pleased to see that our pipeline is building up, right, David? Which is the sign that first, there is still business out there, second, our ability to win what's going on, and then building on the new. It's an and strategy, if you will. Now, when the cycle of lower growth will get back to a cycle of stronger growth. I feel that every year we believe that things are getting a little bit more stable, as I mentioned. All Europe now is less in distress with the sovereign debt.

U.S. been doing well, the emerging markets were strong. Suddenly, the things are a little bit shifting. Europe is okay. Emerging markets are more questionable here and there. U.S. you know better than me, what's going to happen in the coming days with the government shutdown and the debt ceiling. You have probably more to respond than me. If you can read the mind of your government. Sooner the better would be my answer. Sooner the better. Yes.

Keith Bachman
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

You made some comments on the market growth. Market grows 2.5%. Let's say Accenture grows 3%-4% over the next couple of years. How does your net headcount change with that as the backdrop? How does the net headcount change as you look out over the next couple of years? What's the distribution of that headcount? In other words, established market versus your global delivery network. Does that change under those parameters?

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

Maybe on the mix. We have over years, for also good reason, the mix is shifting with the GDN. The GDN is representing a higher proportion of the total headcount. I would not qualify that as anything like a significant shift or an accelerated shift.

Keith Bachman
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

No.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

Not at all. It's just clearly evolutionary. This is what we see. Marty, if you're looking on your patch. We are adding more in the GDN, but we continue to hire in the mature pockets as well as the emerging markets. I think I would characterize as a slow evolution. From the GDN to the mature or to the more mature markets, I would say it's a kind of normal evolution based on the evolving part of our business. When you have a little bit of more AO and BPO, which is the case this last couple of years. It's a little bit accelerating the GDN, but there is nothing as a major shift.

Speaker 12

Yeah. Nothing to add.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

I've seen. We're getting to.

To the better end.

To the better end.

Speaker 12

Yeah

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

Five minutes. If there is the final question, because I'm trying to figure out my profound closing.

Keith Bachman
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

In the past, some of your competitors have taken advantage of downturns, whether they be in a certain vertical or region or globally, and they've used that as an opportunity to take a risk to foster market share growth later. Are you taking any of those types of risks now in your go-to market philosophy, and see a longer term opportunity there?

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

Yes and no. Probably more no than yes. We will never do anything stupid for the sake of taking market share. Never, ever. Historically, when we look at what happened in the market, if you're doing a wrong transaction just for the sake of growing, at the end of the day, it's going to be a wrong transaction, and it's going to impact your financials. We are not prepared to do anything in that category just for the sake of growing. Are we taking the opportunity of this lower cycle to accelerate our investments to capture the new wave of growth? Certainly, yes. We believe that indeed, today, we have the financial strength, we have the capital, we have no debt, we have the cash, and we have the insight to indeed take the opportunities of this market to accelerate our development.

This is where I would put a yes. No, when it comes to are we prepared to take a bad deal for the sake of growth. Never. Are we prepared to use our capital where we are in a position of strength vis-à-vis of competitors who might be more for some cash constraint to make the right acquisitions, to make the right investment. This is exactly what we do in that context. Again, I couldn't be more pleased with the acquisition of Procurian Because it's putting us in leading in that category, and as a consequence, it's putting competitors a little bit more on their, would you say that, Mike, on their back foot?

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

Heels.

Speaker 12

Heels.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

Heels.

David Rowland
CFO, Accenture

Heels.

Pierre Nanterme
Chairman and CEO, Accenture

It's another iteration, because some will not have the capital to deploy to make these acquisitions. Yes, we're using our financial strength to accelerate and make those bets. All right, I guess we are getting to the end of this morning. Thank you very much. Again, thanks a lot for joining us. Thanks a lot for participating and thanks a lot for the questions. Again, we see the Investor and Analyst Day as a dialogue more than anything else. It's the opportunity once a year, for our leaders to share with you where we are. I hope you appreciate the fact that we are as transparent and direct as possible. We have just a genuine dialogue with you. I guess it's extremely important, especially at the times of changes. We've seen that the macro and clients have new expectations.

Our industry as well is in midst of transformation. It is, again, creating maybe on the short term, some tension and pressure on the system. We've seen this year that we didn't have the kind of growth we expected at the end of the day. On the other hand, it's creating opportunities. I think this morning we wanted to show you that the world is plenty of opportunities if you have the right insight, if you have the right discipline, if you have the right strategy, but as well if you're focusing on the execution. At the end of the day, our philosophy for growth is always the same. Whatever the cycle is up, whatever the cycle is a little bit down, at the end of the day, Accenture will grow market share, will invest in the future.

We'll try to capture and succeed in capturing new waves of growth. When the cycle will be up again, we will be better positioned than anyone else in order to succeed and reconnect with higher potential growth. I'm extremely confident about where we are. Again, I believe that we have the right strategy in place and we are executing very well. You hear this morning, we have the right leaders and they are all around the world in order to capture these new waves of growth. We are building from, I think, an incredible position of strength. You mentioned no debt, and I'm taking that as a compliment. We have no debt. We have the cash. We have the track record. From a positioning standpoint, again, we're working for the best clients.

We have the largest delivery network and we are just excellent in delivering. We are taking leading position in new territories, and we're very happy to share that with you this morning. You heard Accenture Interactive. We could have been doing the same with Accenture Mobility. Suddenly you've seen, oh, there is a new Accenture behind the Accenture we know. Very important, at least for me, is we're expanding our relevance in a broader value chain for our clients. We were very well known for covering IT or for covering the enterprise. As you see now, we have moved to the front office in a very robust way and more to come. As well as the same time, you'll remember what we said with the partnership with General Electric or others, we as well want to be more relevant in the field operations.

When I look at it, and as a closing, I would say in a world where volatility and uncertainty is still the name of the game, what's our response? Diversify portfolio of business. The more diverse you are, the more resilient you're going to be. When you're in a cycle of lower growth, invest. Invest to capture the new waves of growth more than your competitors. At the end of the day, three, run your business with maximum rigor and discipline, which is exactly what we do. We grow more than the market, we return to our shareholders what they definitely deserve, and we continue to make Accenture the leading organization in our industry. It's not going to be easy. Competition is there. We like to compete, but we like to compete to win. This is exactly what we will continue to do.

Thanks a lot for your confidence and thanks a lot for participating. I'm sure we will have a continued dialogue in the coming weeks and months. You will participate to the earning calls. We will have one-on-one and see you anyway next year, maybe in the same place, so you can continue to measure the progress we are doing. Again, I would like to thank the management for the preparation, but for the leadership they're providing to Accenture. Again, thanks to both for the support. We are a team. We are on the road, and we compete to win. Thanks a lot.